Giannis not even a debate... Shannon is a bandwagoneer extraordinaire
@lgrw98834 жыл бұрын
The “in the west” argument isn’t really all that valid now. East is almost caught up
@AlienLyfe254 жыл бұрын
It’s not even a question to me😒 lebron need to take a seat this year in terms of the mvp race, it’s a new generation and they deserve their time in the light
@sbrnation70904 жыл бұрын
L G R W lol what?? All of a sudden the East almost caught up 😂😂 have you look at the win losses of the west v East. The seeding and their records. Smh lebron is balling at 35 in the CLEARLY tougher conference. Crazy how that narrative changed
@MattHuey4 жыл бұрын
I dont care for Giannis...AD does same thing..but shoots n blocks...or Jayson Tatum cuz he ballin!!💯💯
@willekln4 жыл бұрын
Shannon Sharpe is number 1 in defense when it comes to everything involving Lebron James.😁
@TheUltimateRage4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!!! Lolol
@emmywhiten87054 жыл бұрын
Like Skip is with Brady. See how the show works??
@keinthbeleta17904 жыл бұрын
Like skip is to kawhi
@OGGOAT234 жыл бұрын
Unc dpoy
@hazegaming1004 жыл бұрын
Emmy Whiten Skip got a lot of mfs to defend
@opsthelabel22714 жыл бұрын
Skip praising lebron , i gotta buy a lottery ticket
@mocancer84854 жыл бұрын
Ops The Label 😂
@theicemachine15744 жыл бұрын
Hes not hes saying lebron wins awards off BS like "storylines"... hes really shitting on the leauge
@MegaVladitor4 жыл бұрын
i did hahaha
@Nickvanexel234 жыл бұрын
Naw you gotta open your third eye, skip is jinxing lebron for the set up 🧐
@anthony93274 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed
@midwestent.70104 жыл бұрын
This lady need to teach molly how to do her job correctly
@ChreamOhWheat4 жыл бұрын
Jenny the type to swallow u up than cook up some seasonless chicken and leave u alone but u ok with it
@tagmyinitials4 жыл бұрын
MidWest Ent. Man who u telling😭
@ChreamOhWheat4 жыл бұрын
@WO0 yEAHHH-Hurt youtuber who makes seasonless chicken
@zekekasichiro-smith47254 жыл бұрын
Jenny is Good.
@moediakite8954 жыл бұрын
molly has yall always commenting comparing the other moderators to her. she stays in yall head even when on a different channel....what she is doing is working then lol she is becoming a star out of folks complaining bout her being "annoying"
@reyrey97524 жыл бұрын
Chris literally destroyed Shannon’s point with the same *ANALYTICS* he was starting his point with
@ameira27104 жыл бұрын
shannon is biased not surprising
@ozkan5764 жыл бұрын
Chris is great
@uFELLA4 жыл бұрын
Really? Uhm, no. The fact that Davis has a higher PER than Lebron PROVES Shannon's point that Giannis's having a higher PER than Lebron is MISLEADING. Lebron, Giannis, and Davis are all top-ten PER right now. Clearly, they (all three) are efficient contributors, but we know that Lebron is WAY more important to the Lakers than Davis. How? Lebron leads the league in real plus minus by a HUGE margin, way ahead of even Giannis! THAT is analytics right there. Lebron is more important to his team than Giannis is to his. It's that simple. All season long commentatars lament how the Lakers lose leads or fall behind whenever Lebron sits. That does NOT happen to the Bucks when Giannis sits. It does NOT happen to the Lakers when Davis sits (to the contrary, they often do better when he does!).
@joshgrant75284 жыл бұрын
Kyle Snyder Giannis should and probably will win the MVP but the East is for sure worse than the west they’ve gotten better but it’s still a pretty top heavy conference likes it’s been for the last decade and Middleton is really good Giannis isn’t dragging him it’s not like it’s Lebron with Mo Williams if u remember that. Lebron been great this year tho but i don’t think if u adjusted his stats up a bit for playing in harder conference and Giannis down a bit for playing in a weaker conference Giannis would still be having a better year.
@uFELLA4 жыл бұрын
@Kyle Snyder You mean the ALL-ENCOMPASSING, NET EFFECT stat known as the real plus minus stat? Yes, that is the one, and Lebron leads it. That is what I am talking about. Giannis sits, Bucks still do well. Giannis misses entire game, no matter....Bucks win against good teams. Remember Kevin Love on the Timberwolves all those years? League-leading rebounder and true shooting percentage, etc? Stats mean nothing out of context. In context, Lebron's stats are more impressive than Giannis. That is why Giannis was EXPOSED last year in playoffs vs Raptors despite winning MVP in reg season. Literally could do NOTHING for four straight playoff games. Dont' get me wrong...I like Giannis and his power game, but like Davis before joining Lakers, he has not proven anything yet.
@neoxsupreme4 жыл бұрын
Shannon got all sad when Chris started spitting facts...
@darvelljacobs14214 жыл бұрын
His facts was better.. when LeBron on the court vs when he off..#MVP
@aegistahl18354 жыл бұрын
Darvell Jacobs yeah, but LeBron’s on and off court +\- differentials have been apparent for some years now. It’s been a main argument for his case for MVP but he hasn’t won the award in 7 years.
@queene75574 жыл бұрын
neoxsupreme actually he was smiling at him the whole time
@maemaedenise2204 жыл бұрын
It's kinda pathetic when you mesbr the court a d your team crumbles. This the guy they say "make his teammates better". Negative.
@maemaedenise2204 жыл бұрын
@@queene7557, That's to keep from crying.
@_lilkeef4 жыл бұрын
The fact skip is giving LeBron compliments is like... wow😭
@olearyeugene4 жыл бұрын
He does it alot. Y'all say this every time he does it
@whereuwannabe77964 жыл бұрын
But he always says LeBron is the best passer and point guard in the league and also the most effective driver of the ball in history. Just because he also has criticism y'all can't see past that to see the compliments.
@bbqblazekyleg75514 жыл бұрын
@@whereuwannabe7796 It's because he nitpicks like in a game where Lebron would have a near 40 point triple double and get the win he would mention how he missed a FT in the 3rd and is why he isn't clutch. I'm pretty sure he does that just for the debate and does seem to like Lebron as a player and loves him as an off the court role model but does still show he does have faults.
@wonderlandian84654 жыл бұрын
That's how much Skip hates on Giannis
@bryanbrown86464 жыл бұрын
@B. Chandler Exactly! That's the same Skip that shows ever LeBron mistake and asked "That's your MVP?".
@jcv12484 жыл бұрын
Giannis obviously is going to be the MVP, and he deserves it. Lebron is great too.
@joseluevano7104 жыл бұрын
The only valid discussion concerning the MVP is if Giannis becomes the unanimous MVP. Not even close.
@RogerGoodeII4 жыл бұрын
Jose Luevano It would take a miracle for things to change, I agree. Lebron is one of the greatest of all time, but this isn’t his year for MVP
@stoppingcurchokefanssince21844 жыл бұрын
@Mike B 1. LeBron is more of a perimeter player than Giannis so ofc his shooting percentage is going to be low. 3 pt percentage? Dude LeBron averages 6.3 3pt attempts per game to Giannis's 4.7 attempts and he STILL has a higher shooting percentage from 3. Also consider the fact LeBron shoots 3's off the dribble, off catch and shoots and literally 4+ feet behind the line sometimes. While Giannis literally has to be open for him to knock a 3 or it must be lightly contested. Giannis isn't a catch and shoot shooter, in fact he is barely and off the dribble shooter.. he needs to take his time on his shots. 2. So what if giannis stats are better vs west teams than east? That doesn't change the fact that the West is indeed harder. The funny thing is, LeBron for his career has better avgs vs the west, so that means nothing. 3. Yeah Giannis is leading in PER, and will probably have the best all time.. but career PER LeBron is second only to Jordan... I don't understand where you got that false 126th stat lmao.
@jimmycolleran3494 жыл бұрын
Stopping Curchoke Fans Since 2015 I think he meant his current pet is 126th all time
@Banned4Life4 жыл бұрын
I think LeBron is within striking distance of being the GOAT, and that he has been robbed a few times from more MVPs, but this season is clearly Giannis' to lose. I'd still rather have Bron on my team, but Giannis is putting up insane numbers, and it really shouldn't be in question at this point.
@Rivs51174 жыл бұрын
Jose Luevano Exactly bro. That’s the ONLY question we should be having to
@hozman57004 жыл бұрын
The MVP is a simple formula. If the team with the highest record has a player who is having transcendent season then that player deserves the mvp
@kreed824 жыл бұрын
Thing is though these pundits have been saying giannis even when lakers had the best record in the league. Its like they are so use to lebron's feats of greatness that they take seasons like this for granted. I use to think AD was a cheat code but other than free throws hes not the impact player i thought he'd be.
@blakemasters57424 жыл бұрын
kreed82 they really haven’t. They pined Lebron to be the MVP before the season even started. and they didn’t start having the MVP convo until about december and Giannis was leading at that point and Luka was second
@fuddyduddie12054 жыл бұрын
H Ozman expected when he has the lesser amount of help. Especially!!!
@fuddyduddie12054 жыл бұрын
kreed82 Lebron hasn’t been MVP since he won it and rightfully so. Same with this season. What’s the difference between this season and last season? AD and making the playoffs. If Lebron did this with his team last season, he’d be the MVP no doubt.
@fastballfilms42144 жыл бұрын
Fuddyduddie1 the lakers are a different team with lebron on the bench. You put giannis on the bench....bucks will be find
@thinktank14 жыл бұрын
"I love me some ole Goat James more than Hennessy and dem Milds" - Shannon Sharpe
@visualizeme-tz3ng4 жыл бұрын
I almost spit out my coffee lol
@kingbo234 жыл бұрын
🗣“Everybody says I want the truth but people don’t really want the truth because it’ll destroy their illusion”💯💯
@Starch1b2c3d4a4 жыл бұрын
well said
@javya6994 жыл бұрын
Em B yes but in the context of this conversation not applicable lmao
@aiman.214 жыл бұрын
He has so many real quotes. There was this one that related to me so well but I forgot it
@UnexpectedWonder4 жыл бұрын
Nothin' but Facts with that gem.
@learningisgrowing4 жыл бұрын
But Shannon actually believes MJ is the GOAT despite the propaganda he spews on every episode of this washed show?
@Lord2wiceAsReal4 жыл бұрын
Giannis definitely deserves back to back MVPS 💪🏾💯
@coldwolf70144 жыл бұрын
So he put up the same numbers as last year just higher PER. And the East is weaker than last year. And you want to give another MVP to same guy who couldn’t lead his team passed the second round? I’m walking out.
@Himothy_of_anime4 жыл бұрын
@@coldwolf7014 second round? That alone tells me you don't know basketball
@jimmyto75604 жыл бұрын
@@coldwolf7014 What do you mean he couldn’t lead his team passed the second round. He lost at the ECF last season because the Raptors had the blueprint for giannis. Do you even watch basketball or the bucks. And you don't even bring the historic season Giannis is having with bucks without a superstar.
@midwestslotgeeks10814 жыл бұрын
He didn’t get out the second round wtf
@Mynd0fC44 жыл бұрын
Nopezies
@scrappdaproducer93594 жыл бұрын
He didnt even Play Last Night And They Still Found A Way To Make Him The Topic Today.
@l9ikjam4 жыл бұрын
@@swarajthapa5798 and the cowboys
@kingssportskonversation73514 жыл бұрын
ScrappDa Producer and you found a way to watch. 😂😂
@timantoine38394 жыл бұрын
@@l9ikjam and Tom Brady
@scrappdaproducer93594 жыл бұрын
King's Sports Konversation Actually I didn’t watch, it was in my recommended I came just to post my comment. Boy
@allcinionexplainsitall58694 жыл бұрын
King's Sports Konversation it’s because they are hilarious tbh
@Rivs51174 жыл бұрын
The MVP race been over with for about a month. The only question is should Giannis win it unanimous.
@billycausgrove96574 жыл бұрын
Maybe not unanimous but he differently should win it again.
@banquetmeal6634 жыл бұрын
@@billycausgrove9657 It should be unanimous. He's been the best player on by far the best team for the entire year. If the Bucks win 70 games and he doesn't win it unanimously they should just get rid of the award.
@Rivs51174 жыл бұрын
Banquet Meal Facts bro and on top of that Greek is a DPOTY candidate.
@TheBoiRusty4 жыл бұрын
Billy Causgrove I think he wins it unanimously if they win 70 games.
@MrBacon-ou1kw4 жыл бұрын
you guys are absolutely crazy if you think Giannis has a chance at winning it unanimously. He probably deserves it but there are a boatload of Lebron dickriders in the media so there is a 0% chance that happens.
@Redaku4184 жыл бұрын
There is no way this race is close. Come on now
@rice9094 жыл бұрын
allen panicker , oh it’s very close, do you watch basketball ?
@sonandheir134 жыл бұрын
Stephen Jimenez except nobody asked you???
@jordancox82944 жыл бұрын
@@rice909 it's not close at all. Lol
@dimitrythomas41584 жыл бұрын
It's not close. Shannon knows this too. This convo is for ratings
@Arashi嵐4 жыл бұрын
Your right lebron wins it. Finally someone agrees.
@Juvijuju4 жыл бұрын
8:18 when u know Shannon and Skip are boys 😂🔥❤️❤️
@dayungestleg3nd4 жыл бұрын
Alley oop dunked on chris on the fast break
@nedzhminedkov11594 жыл бұрын
I just hope they don't rob Giannis of the MVP he deserves. The dude is averaging 30/14/6, playing around 30mpg, having the highest PER of all time, top 3 candidate for DPOTY and the Bucks are on pace for 71 wins ! His 2nd best teammate is Middleton who at best is a top 20 player in the league while LeBron has AD who by the way is leading the Lakers in pts, rbs, stls, blks and PER and is widely considered a top 4 - 7 player in the league. It's not even close between them
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
lebrons only argument is his age...theres no other argument besides 3pt% lol which who cares they make almost the same amount barley any difference
@shaiwriter4 жыл бұрын
Chris says he's 99.9% sure. Didn't he say the same thing about Kawhi going to the Lakers?
@stanzre4 жыл бұрын
about the stat not mvp
@timsnell93264 жыл бұрын
Gainnis is having the best PER ever ... ever no way he can loose... no way
@csc47814 жыл бұрын
Tim Snell not only that, he’s averaging 30 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists in just 30 minutes the Bucks are on pace to win 70 games, while playing without a superstar
@timsnell93264 жыл бұрын
CSC well gainnis n that’s it but middleton is ballin this year 20 points 40 50 90
@timsnell93264 жыл бұрын
CSC I hope they can do it man
@csc47814 жыл бұрын
Tim Snell true but he’s not an superstar caliber not but he has been ballin this year
@csc47814 жыл бұрын
Tim Snell it’s all about that 🏆 that matters
@Flacoisbored4 жыл бұрын
That adlib by shannon at 8:43 😂😂😂
@tomjones45214 жыл бұрын
Unc was ready 🤣
@tarrumkai50004 жыл бұрын
F L A C O lol😭😭💀💀💀
@YKSupe4 жыл бұрын
“Remember Jenny, He kept showing them LowLights🎬😂” Unk too funny man😭
@leetraviusmckay29194 жыл бұрын
The bucks are 50-8 and Giannis is the MVP
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
52-7 is their official record in my books..he missed one of their close losses so that doesn't count imo
@Dozie474 жыл бұрын
Absolute disrespect that 2 people on this table said Lebron. Only convo is if Giannis is unanimous. Man's boutta get 70 wins lol
@dimitrissalepis52544 жыл бұрын
Giannis s arguments for this year s MVP : 1 Giannis is about to have the best PER season of all time 2 He is if not the best, top 3 defensive player in the NBA 3 He plays for a small market team with no other superstars Skip s arguments : 1 MVP is about the story ...... since when ?????? 2 Giannis during the Con Finals choked ...... first of all he didnt choke, his team mates where never to be found and secondly it was his FIRST TIME !!! Also since when the MVP award has become about the playoffs and not the REGULAR SEASON ???? I am not trying to diss LeBron people. He was and still is amazing !!! What he is doing in his 17th season at 35 years old is unreal !!!! BUT win the MVP???? Come on people lets be serious now !!!! Its already 100% Giannis !!!! I wonder what Skip would say if the MVP race this year was between LeBron and another superstar and Bron was about to have the best PER in history and at the same time he was the best defender in the NBA .....! They would have already thrown a parade, they would say its a done deal for Bron and they would be making GOAT talks !!! So GTF out of here man !!!!! Skip and Shannon you are embarrassing yourselves !!!
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
there is no debate so they make one for ratings...everyone knows the vote will go 99% of not 100 to giannis at this point in time..only injury can stop it
@markadam62694 жыл бұрын
Giannis for MVP has such a strong case that they had to requite Skip and Shannon to support lebron so that it is even an argument. MVP discussion is over I am sorry
@MrImaWizard4 жыл бұрын
I used to feel that way about Middleton til I started watching him when Giannis is out.... dude is a mini KD
@Papacamfamilyfirst4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Jon155mt4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@jerry68354 жыл бұрын
Disappears in the playoffs
@yeatdagoat1734 жыл бұрын
Mini KD? I smell cap but we have to see in the playoffs the cuz unlike most people, I see the Raptors having the biggest threat against the Bucks
@stev38864 жыл бұрын
@@jerry6835 he carried Milwaukee against Boston. Don't forget his clutch shots
@mauricefullenwiderjr4 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: maybe... just maybe we can stop disrespecting Khris Middleton. Just saying 🤷🏾♂️
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
hes low key been underrated this key...he is avg. like 21 6 and 4 on 44% from 3 91% ft and 50% fg all year and doig it quietly on few dribbles and good defense..hes basically 2014 d wade to giannis' lebron or 2015 klay thompson
@Милош-г3к4 жыл бұрын
If somehow they rob Giannis of MVP I swear to God this league is joke
@mexicogoatnyc62674 жыл бұрын
They robbed lebron of mvp like 2-3 times already
@Rivs51174 жыл бұрын
Ant Deuce Bro you asking that let’s me know you a LeBron fanboy who not gone like the response.
@arnellrocket4 жыл бұрын
Милош all I’m saying is the lakers are what 4 games from having the the best record and Lebron is leading the league in assist he’s averaging 25 points and what 7 boards, it wouldn’t be a robbery lol
@oRiiGiiNaLGaNGsTeR4 жыл бұрын
@@arnellrocket It would most def be a robbery can't even debate that one
@tevinchan94334 жыл бұрын
Mexico Goat shut up. Do y’all even get to watch the nba in mexico? Thought the wall trump built blocked that too.
@leetraviusmckay29194 жыл бұрын
Giannis is MVP by far now the question is he unanimous MVP
@ItzJohnnyRambo4 жыл бұрын
LeeTravius Mckay no
@coldwolf70144 жыл бұрын
So they want to give another MVP to a guy putting up the same numbers as last year but couldn’t get his team passed the second round? Not the ECF the second round! 2 years in a row, he was 4th seed and #1 seed and got sent home by Embiid and Kawhi. I’m out!
@Ah-ws9nm4 жыл бұрын
LeVelle Coley Y’all talking like Bron won the chip last year 😂. He missed the playoffs and Giannis numbers are all slightly up and he doesn’t have AD
@coldwolf70144 жыл бұрын
Ah is the East not weaker than last year? They got 6 teams that’s don’t have 20 wins. And he didn’t make the playoffs because of injury wtf. U said that like he played 77 games and they sucked and missed the playoffs 🤦🏽♂️
@Ah-ws9nm4 жыл бұрын
LeVelle Coley They had a losing record in the games he played... but either way he didn’t make the playoffs. You’re saying his numbers are the same when all his numbers are up and Brons are down besides assists. It is what it is
@Coddaddy1034 жыл бұрын
OMG SKIP JUST GAVE LBJ CREDIT???? AM I DREAMING
@strongbone94714 жыл бұрын
He only compliment LeBron because he does not like giannis lol.
@christiananasco89374 жыл бұрын
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p americans hate foreigners doing their jobs better. you see that in other fields as well
@randomk71984 жыл бұрын
@Persian Warrior larry bird had higher iq
@ojnbrando1874 жыл бұрын
Finally Skip and Shannon agree on ONE topic 🤣
@sifisokunene69324 жыл бұрын
Brandon Charles when two aunties that can’t stand each other team up against the neighbor 🤣🤣🤣
@samuelfuglevigsndergaard88654 жыл бұрын
Skip is such a great troller that he has forgotten how not to troll
@susshibe22074 жыл бұрын
But we all love him 🤷🏾♂️
@samuelfuglevigsndergaard88654 жыл бұрын
Petar Petrovic its a love-hate relationship😂
@martinbrankov85044 жыл бұрын
Usually the best player on the team with the best record wins MVP!
@Skoshi334 жыл бұрын
End of discussion...
@hughhefner53484 жыл бұрын
Russell westbrook?
@martinbrankov85044 жыл бұрын
@@hughhefner5348 well I said usually!! Westbrook achieved something unimaginable. This season lebron is good but nothing spectacular!
@christiananasco89374 жыл бұрын
@@martinbrankov8504 still the same stat line in this past decade. also he has AD on the team. If that is your argument when they talked about before if Steph or KD would be the MVP in Golden State, I don't see why we can't use this argument for Lebron?
@martinbrankov85044 жыл бұрын
@@christiananasco8937 well if lebron load manages march/april and Giannis plays all the games its game over. Long way to go!
@ColdEraOfficial4 жыл бұрын
I love uncle shays quotes especially from his grandparents much love unc 💯💯
@j314-q7i4 жыл бұрын
Lol...the narrative use to be two Superstars on one team will take away votes from each other. But the media has done a great job of downplaying AD's contributions. Remember at the beginning of the year they were trying to have AD be DPOY and that he was getting votes for MVP as well. Luka, Harden and Giannis were early season favorites. Luka gets hurt and now the push is for Lebron in the media...because of the narrative (17th yr). Now to discredit Giannis the narrative about rewarding him THIS year's regular season is to talk about him struggling in the Eastern Conference Finals LAST year because they have no legitimate reason to badmouth him because of his production. Steve Nash won back to back MVPs...did he get to the Finals 👀
@Prayersfury4 жыл бұрын
j 314 Watch some games, Anthony Davis has performed nowhere close to what he was at the beginning of the season on either Offense or defense. Harden hasn’t performed at all the past two months at a consistent basis. Luka has been injured as you mentioned. Lebron has been consistent & the impact he has on this team and its offense is even more clear than teams in the past. I think giannis should win the MVP, but don’t act like Lebron isn’t right there. Watch some basketball
@allcinionexplainsitall58694 жыл бұрын
Gummy B3ars and I kept hearing how AD is a top 5 player in the world.
@fakeshake2344 жыл бұрын
@@Prayersfury Facts. Lebron was an early season favorite too right alongside those guys. The others either dealt with injuries as the year went on or had inconsistent stretches. Any other year Lebron would win it, the Lakers have a negative net rating when he leaves the court and a highly positive one when he comes back on, he's the very definition of "most valuable." Giannis will and should win it though because he's just been ridiculous all year and they've been tearing apart the East.
@atlien19884 жыл бұрын
@@Prayersfury AD isn't performing anywhere near his performance at the start of the season? On offense AND defense? Quit chatting. You clearly don't watch the games.
@lennybeason11104 жыл бұрын
U are 100%🎯
@usure92504 жыл бұрын
If draymond green a hall of famer . Throw the whole hall of fame away
@nick69564 жыл бұрын
Artweall One he is tho
@superQman6004 жыл бұрын
Lol, just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he isn’t mvp😂
@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne224 жыл бұрын
Defensive player of the year NBA Champion Multiple all defensive teams Multiple time all star
@matthewlong18214 жыл бұрын
@Bryan G I was just bout to type that 😁😁😁😁
@Stonecoldalston4 жыл бұрын
LebronBlew5Finals#NotTop5 #Needs2AllStarsToWin Draymond should not be a All Star
@JBrown-go8ru4 жыл бұрын
5:41 Draymond is not a Hall a Famer. He benefits from having two other Hall of Famers on the team. Dude is an overpaid baby.
@KimarKurosaski4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a hof bro do you realize how many slightly above average players are in the hall? Dray has 3 rings, went to 5 straight finals, has a gold medal, multiple all star teams, multiple all defensive teams with a dpoy it’s a runaway Draymond is a hall of famer. To minimize his contributions is like minimizing Ben Wallace or Dennis Rodman it shows you don’t look at the whole picture of the game. Splash bros are goats but they wouldn’t have had that success without Dray
@johnclements90854 жыл бұрын
I hate golden state...but Draymond is a hall of famer.....he is a huge reason why they won titles....
@allcinionexplainsitall58694 жыл бұрын
Devin Kimar they carried Draymond though let’s be real beaut your right about how you can’t take his accomplishments away from him
@linmac21374 жыл бұрын
He's a HoF. He shouldn't be but the NBA HoF isn't like you'd probably think. Lots of people get in that probably shouldn't.
@theicemachine15744 жыл бұрын
He will be a hall of Famer. Stop crying
@Azn_Light4 жыл бұрын
thats dogging on middleton hard lol hes a star for sure
@Unknown-nc4jq4 жыл бұрын
he'd be better step up his game in the postseason to upgrade to a superstar.
@kingghxstgaming4 жыл бұрын
They said that they just said he isn’t a superstar
@DJ_JC4144 жыл бұрын
Lol so they using last year's playoff to determine this years mvp?? This show is a joke
@PRock4144 жыл бұрын
Speak on it!! If that's the case old "Goat James" was at home during the playoffs last year then got swept and left Cleveland the last time he was there
@JasTheKariol4 жыл бұрын
"He has the best offensive rating in history, he is the best defender in the league this year, he has no other superstar while his team is going to get 70 wins, and all these playing less minutes than LBJ, BUT....blablabla..."
@leetraviusmckay29194 жыл бұрын
Alex Caruso deserves MVP
@Redaku4184 жыл бұрын
No ways its giannis he dominates the east and all who come in his path
@alexmcgaugh94364 жыл бұрын
allen panicker Lebron did that for a whole decade and now as soon as Lebron leaves the East is strong again gtfoh
@Redaku4184 жыл бұрын
@@alexmcgaugh9436 nah bruh the east when lebron was there he had the strongest teams. Giannis does not have the best players there with him
@alexmcgaugh94364 жыл бұрын
Mike B I agree that it’s this season but what I’m saying is giannis shouldn’t win doing something that Lebron has done 9+ times everytime Lebron was suppose to win in the East he had the best stats and all that but there excuse was the East he’s in the west now doing the same thing giannis ain’t even prove nothing he got stopped by al horford last year
@TheNamesDitto4 жыл бұрын
The East is weaker this year. The East has 7 teams under .400 and 9 teams under .500. it's a lot easier to win the east this year because half of your conference are throwaway teams. I'm a Hornets fan so I pay so much attention to the East too. Easy to play hard if you don't really need to lock in half of the time.
@m.r.h41764 жыл бұрын
@@alexmcgaugh9436 played on a superteam in the east for a decade. Look at la last year gtfoh
@benstheweatherdog4 жыл бұрын
Props to skip for shouting out k midd, an actual smart comment by skip... wow!
@onidtubes4 жыл бұрын
The whole " he in the east " argument don't hold water. Lebron was winning MVPs when he in the east.
@Sg6CrossOver4 жыл бұрын
And was hella a lot weaker
@keijokaljo76224 жыл бұрын
LeBron has been to 9 NBA finals...let's see Giannis get to 1!!! 17th year...giannis is a beast but hold your horses
@paternozzo4 жыл бұрын
keijo kaljo since when past matters in the MVP race? Giannis easy
@thegreatone98504 жыл бұрын
@@keijokaljo7622 with a superteam in the EAST Giannis has no SUPERTEAM
@sean707294 жыл бұрын
The east is as good as the west this season they,need to check the standings.
@harryarias24764 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anybody expected giannis to be leading his team to damn near 70 wins, bruh don’t compare what lebron is doing with Anthony Davis to what giannis is doing with that team in the Milwaukee
@Udon_Noodle4 жыл бұрын
You talking like the Bucks are trash? They're one of the deepest teams in the league...outside of Lebron, AD, and PROBABLY Kuzma or Javale on lottery teams who else on is a starting caliber? Let alone for a contending team.
@charlescooks93604 жыл бұрын
@@Udon_Noodle Danny green and dwight Howard. both started last year
@curtismartin84554 жыл бұрын
Right!!! No contest!!!
@ronwest33394 жыл бұрын
Charles Cooks Dwight played like 9 games last year and Danny Green was the 6 best player on Toronto
@damolaadesoye49754 жыл бұрын
Goat Caruso???
@grimtea17154 жыл бұрын
I honestly want to see this guy win another MVP award and honestly I want to see him win the Championship and Finals MVP just my opinion.
@PerkingBJ3 жыл бұрын
u got your wish
@JJstram844 жыл бұрын
Broussard always the smartest and most honest NBA analyst out there.
@CHANNEL_HH4 жыл бұрын
Skip “the hay is in his barn” Bayless
@bcbright174 жыл бұрын
Shannon was so excited when Skip finally agreed with him for once
@AlanMartinez-bj7kw4 жыл бұрын
Bro I thought you couldn’t have 2 All stars on the same team competing for the MVP cause they Cancel out...y’all did that to KD and Curry last year smh
@blakemasters57424 жыл бұрын
Alan Martinez 2 superstar top 5 player at that too all of sudden that mean nothin
@JoeSmithGOAT4 жыл бұрын
Also remember, a lot of these analysts would've been ok had Kawhi chosen to go to the Lakers but when Durant did it, hE bRoKe ThE nBa. iT WaS uNfAiR 😶
@AlanMartinez-bj7kw4 жыл бұрын
Carl Padua BIG FACTS I didn’t even realize that till you mentioned it after all these months...they never said the word “super team”
@majidsheikh47364 жыл бұрын
@@AlanMartinez-bj7kw 2 all stars dont make a super team.Super teams start at 3 atleast
@omacktube4 жыл бұрын
2 first overall picks who are also top 5 players in the nba makes a superteam.
@SquaredMisfit4 жыл бұрын
"YOU SHADED HIM!!" lmaoooo, I love Shannon
@ELLOSEE4 жыл бұрын
Shannon had ta check em at the end like hold up..cease with the foolishness
@MrKing80504 жыл бұрын
AD leads the Lakers in points, rebs, blks, FG% But LeBron should be MVP😂😂😂😂😂
@Maja-hs5pd4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@dezdakid37044 жыл бұрын
@@rochambeau2111 take lebron off the team and let's see what they look like
@argentrisbarber39674 жыл бұрын
Lebron fans dont like Facts
@dezdakid37044 жыл бұрын
@@argentrisbarber3967 which facts oh yh the fact that the lakers offensive and defensive rating goes way low when lebron is off the court 😂😂😂😂
@MrKing80504 жыл бұрын
@Beatsro 23 yea the benefits of playing in the weaker conference, and the MVP is a right now award not what you did 7 years ago typical dumb Bronsexual logic
@stev38864 жыл бұрын
2:51-3:13 OUCHH when you thought you were fire with your opinion and someone just simply destroy it. Chris the GOAT is back
@kingtshilobo18494 жыл бұрын
But if Lakers get swept by Clippers regular season or Milwaukee beat them head to head. Giannis should win it
@bipskayless98814 жыл бұрын
I agree that giannis should win mvp but thats not what voters look at lol
@jaybird81924 жыл бұрын
Broussard just about made Shannon cry when he spat out all those facts!😞
@arnellrocket4 жыл бұрын
Also Khris Middleton is averaging 21 6 and 5 on 50% shooting lol i guess that’s no help
@igotnext9304 жыл бұрын
Arnell Pearson whats AD averaging????? Last time I checked Middleton not In the DOPY convo. But AD is 🤣🤣
@viveksingh13414 жыл бұрын
And after AD who ? Kuzma vs Bledsoe ?? Hill vs Rondo ??
@themarathonman28744 жыл бұрын
I got Next Middleton might have a 50/40/90 season. He complements Giannis very well
@maxjones86414 жыл бұрын
Ad a top 5 player in and in the running for defensive player of the year.
@igotnext9304 жыл бұрын
Andrew Castelli AD is a superstar point blank. Middleton is a great player it’s not a debate on who the better 2nd option is man. AD is the best PF in the nba Middleton isn’t the best SG in the nba lebron plays with the best PF in the nba
@Seif97ify4 жыл бұрын
RPM is the only argument Shay has
@troyduffie38364 жыл бұрын
As a Bron fan, Giannis is the MVP-no question. And if I were a Giannis guy I would be mad this was a conversation. However, if Bron wins it, this is repayment for the MVP he should’ve gotten in 2018 playing all 82 and dragging that team to the finals. Furthermore-it will be the first of many that Giannis should’ve won like the ones Shaq, Kobe and Mike were robbed of.
@bandoprime4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this
@charlescooks93604 жыл бұрын
lebron did not deserve mvp in 2018. he lost way too many games
@anthonyrendo30864 жыл бұрын
@@charlescooks9360 he won over 50 games that year wat u mean
@anthonyrendo30864 жыл бұрын
@@charlescooks9360 and avg 27 8.6 9.1 and drag that was team to finals are u on drug way kind u be doing ??
@darriongray20134 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyrendo3086 dude Come On Harden Deserved it That year Averaged 31 on a 65 Win team And Last time I Checked Playoffs dont count on the MVPnVoting
@nicolaoudinos4 жыл бұрын
out of all stats to consider, collectively, Shanon finds one (or two) to hold on to his near sighted view of Giannis. Its over , not even close,, Giannis back to back MVP not to mention also DPOY
@normanpryor48244 жыл бұрын
Giannis no doubt MVP back to back💯💯
@odionehijie47484 жыл бұрын
Seeing skip praise bron wow 🤩 this is a dream
@ethanhansen14794 жыл бұрын
If I’m right giannis has beat both the clippers and LAKERS. With both lebron and ad. Come on man giannis is the clear mvp. Look what has he done this season. Giannis is doing insane things
@xordus4 жыл бұрын
no, the Bucks have beaten them. Giannis is a player on the Bucks who plays less than 30 minutes a night. When he's not playing, does his team fall apart or do they continue to smash at basically the same exact pace? exactly..
@Fire7584 жыл бұрын
The backlash became the good lash - Skip's turning into Michael Scott right in front of our eyes.
@leetraviusmckay29194 жыл бұрын
Idc what nobody says if lebron wins the MVP award its complete biased asf
@systemguy0004 жыл бұрын
Who is the best "insert category here'" in the world? Shannon : LeBrOn!
@teezy135004 жыл бұрын
TBH I think the media is about to give Giannis the LBJ/MJ treatment where they just can't give him MVP every year because it gets boring and no narrative to build around nor do they feel he's the absolute best player. I don't think you can beat Giannis in MVP when he's doing all his damage IN 30 MINUTES PER GAME, it's hard to top it really.
@Ah-ws9nm4 жыл бұрын
teezy13500 it depends. Bird won 3 in a row 🤷🏾♂️. And Bron didn’t win it every year because his teams underwhelmed in the regular season his second time in Cleveland
@jestermonk68054 жыл бұрын
Most of the other greats went college for a few years so they came in the NBA when they were like 22yo. So those guys would have been like 39 in there 17th season. But these guys never mention that
@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne224 жыл бұрын
Shannon making no sense Saying if it was AD on the Lakers they'd miss the playoffs Brother, they missed the playoffs with LeBron LeBron has more help by far Stop ignoring the other side of the court Giannis is all defensive teams
@TCsInspiredVlogs4 жыл бұрын
AD also has led the Pelicans to the playoffs twice.
@cRn8244 жыл бұрын
lmao at skips face when shannon mentions they got cases on the record.
@larryprata46154 жыл бұрын
Alex Caruso for mvp
@thecoolguy0104 жыл бұрын
👍
@mr.franklinjackson70564 жыл бұрын
Chris and Shannon passing the jock strap around they look so happy.
@TheoneKay4 жыл бұрын
Giannis will be unanimous and anything short of that is straight up blasphemous.
@cwjohnson13564 жыл бұрын
The warriors are missing the key people on their team how quickly we forget don't sleep 2021
@Tonyoung554 жыл бұрын
Just sad no matter what they gonna keep trying to push MVP to Lebron every year they keep saying he the MVP and he not
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
lebrons won 0 mvps since 2013 and 0 finals mvps since 2016 and 0 medals since 2012 and 0 fiba medals since 2006 won 1 finals game since then and has won 0 finals games since 2017 ended..why do we still talk about him at the top?..hes not
@hopenyavor55144 жыл бұрын
00:30 🗣"people don't want the truth cos it'll destroy their illusion"- Unc Shay
@Mirknowsall4 жыл бұрын
Eww it sounds weird for skip to give bron credit
@wonderlandian84654 жыл бұрын
Wait , if the Lakers with AD and no Lebron can't even make the playoffs i don't wanna hear any comparison with AD and Giannis anymore. Period. What you talking about AD being a top 5 player and can't lead a full squad to a playoff spot
@TCsInspiredVlogs4 жыл бұрын
He did it twice with the Pels
@indraneelkarandikar32924 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says that Giannis isn't the MVP much less the unanimous MVP doesn't know anything basketball nuff said 🗣️
@Murker_Mike4 жыл бұрын
Um no JUMPSHOT period, as an mvp you need around superstar true shoota game like LBJ
@fishdom60064 жыл бұрын
Yeah. As an MVP, you need to team up with another superstar, which Giannis is not. 😒😒😒😒
@chi-raqbd25864 жыл бұрын
Indraneel Karandikar lebron takin ovwr
@jakesita31074 жыл бұрын
You mean why did lebron won mvp back to back with wade and bosh??
@GigaChadsAreReal4 жыл бұрын
Chris, a huge Lebron Supporter, keeping it 100 with Shannon and Skip
@teezy135004 жыл бұрын
Can we stop acting like Bron doesn't have AD on his team, sure make whatever argument you want that they wouldn't make playoffs if LBJ wasn't there, but you can make that argument about any top heavy team. AD is not a tier 1 first option in THIS NBA, 10 years ago absolutely Tier 1. AD is the best PF in the NBA on both ends its nonsense to think he isn't affecting the game at a very high level when paired with bron.
@blakemasters57424 жыл бұрын
teezy13500 AD is not the best PF in the league Giannis is
@teezy135004 жыл бұрын
@@blakemasters5742 lol ok Whatever position you want to Gianni's at considering he plays everything but SG.
@blakemasters57424 жыл бұрын
teezy13500 he plays most of his minutes at PF
@bobmannion45484 жыл бұрын
Giannis team is way better lol
@teezy135004 жыл бұрын
@@bobmannion4548 Bucks are better coached. People keep changing the narrative for the Lakers, beginning of the year they are great and loaded, now the media wants to entice an arm race saying each they don't have enough. Lakers are fine the problem is they have Do Your Job mentality on the team which obviously works but if you're going to coach your team that way then LBJ and AD better be there. Bucks with a similarly talented roster takes a Make The Right Play approach which is why they aren't confused when you take out the engine that is Gianni's. Even AD has a do your job play style right now as he waits for the ball from Bron so it's weird when Bron steps out of the lineup Historically on all of his teams becuas the always has the ball.
@GroveStreetMedia4 жыл бұрын
Skip is goofy. So he can't win THIS season's MVP bcuz of what happened in 4 games LAST season? 🤦🏾♂️ & at 8:46 yeah he didn't wanna bring up the stats bcuz he was wrong. His stats did not go into the toilet. His stats were still pretty good.
@basketballgod27914 жыл бұрын
Greek team without him still good while when LeBron sits his team turns into a g League team nuff said
@awwready_284 жыл бұрын
what do you mean the Lakers also have AD!!! with AD there at least a 8th seed, 40 win team
@wick3dsouls8694 жыл бұрын
Avary Doakes typical bronsexuals, acknowledge nobody but le3-5
@j314-q7i4 жыл бұрын
Lol because Milwaukee has an actual offense. Lakers run the Bron system. Take him out of that system they struggle.
@basketballgod27914 жыл бұрын
@@awwready_28 then why do the stats show that when LeBron sits even when AD stays in the game they still suck? This is supposed to be about who's more valuable correct? LeBron LED his team in 3-point shots made most of the season which is sad given they have shooters.
@AlexK-rd1ki4 жыл бұрын
Bamm Bamm he’s 3-6
@BasketballJunkie13244 жыл бұрын
Broussard check-mate argument with the east/west reversal well done
@Opinlinz4 жыл бұрын
If LeBron played on the Bucks they would say he's playing with a bunch of nobodies.
@wilnum14 жыл бұрын
Wow I got to agree with skip on this and I can’t believe I just said that...
@jamtv32584 жыл бұрын
Shannon: This team without Lebron is not a playoff team even with AD. Me: Didn't Lebron miss the playoffs last year without AD tho?
@pawansomavarpu13914 жыл бұрын
he missed 27 games
@jamtv32584 жыл бұрын
@@pawansomavarpu1391 When he came back they were ONE game out the 8th seed. He activated "playoff mode" and they lost to the Pacers (No Oladipo), Suns, Knicks, Grizzlies and Hawks. Lebron got more excuses than championships.
@WindyCityNick4 жыл бұрын
Pawan Somavarpu Bruh his record was 28-27 when he played. That’s like going 42-40, the 8th seeded Clippers went 48-34. We can assume he would’ve missed the playoffs
@popopopo49814 жыл бұрын
chris brousard: " I got to here this " (shannon explaining....)
@allm5xx2544 жыл бұрын
If you give Giannis AD they might 3 peat
@Thomas9988224 жыл бұрын
Giannis will team up with a superstar at some point soon. NBA beware
@jahrellwebster22054 жыл бұрын
the lakers are gonna 3 peat there trying to make lebron the goat
@Amor19902 жыл бұрын
This was before Covid. Bucks would have won championship that year.
@RatoyaBanks4 жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t wanna hear the facts though!
@RatoyaBanks4 жыл бұрын
Jimbo da Street minista is this conversation about who is the goat or who is going to be MVP this season? Lol I’m not debating goat status here that’s a whole different story
@bipskayless98814 жыл бұрын
B Sa FACTS
@wheelergaoteote13934 жыл бұрын
Kris Middleton is a legit second guy.... I’m tired of this bs. Send him somewhere else watch his stats skyrocket like Brogden
@vt2484 жыл бұрын
Why should lebron be in the discussion when Anthony Davis leads the Lakers in PPG, RPG, BPG and SPG shooting a higher FG% than Lebron 🤔?
@MrBacon-ou1kw4 жыл бұрын
Team impact. Lebron has proven to be much more valuable than AD to his team and the Lakers are much better when he's on the floor rather than when Ad is without him on the floor. You can check all your stats on that.
@vt2484 жыл бұрын
@@alexpedroza7461 that's AD. Leading 4 out of 5 major categories, you stupid. Might as well make an argument for KCP.
@bipskayless98814 жыл бұрын
VT 24 But hes leading the league in assists in year 17 bro!!!! Name someone else who has done that. This is probably the argument you’ll hear lol
@vt2484 жыл бұрын
@@bipskayless9881 John Stockton. Bye! Since when does just leading in assists win anyone MVP??? And Scoring and rebounding are more important stats. AD's better on both ends of the floor than lebron and the Lakers have now beaten the Thunder and GS without lebron. He has no case at MVP whatsoever. You're a joke dude, media's got you brainwashed
@bipskayless98814 жыл бұрын
VT 24 you obviously didn’t understand my comment lol. Im not saying he has a case for mvp
@jusMvtt4 жыл бұрын
shannon: “THESEEE BIG”😭
@nawty37264 жыл бұрын
Giannis is literally having the best season ever
@C2Poke4 жыл бұрын
Back in early January (when the media stupidly had Luka, Harden and AD ahead of Lebron in the MVP race), there wasn’t much talk of a “huge gap” between Giannis and the rest of the MVP candidates. That narrative didn’t start until AFTER Lebron jumped into the #2 spot. And that narrative has been getting pushed even harder in recent weeks, as it has become more obvious that Lebron is Giannis’ only competition for the MVP award this year. It’s crazy how hard the media has been working to convince fans that the MVP race ended a month ago...when there was still ~35 games left in the regular season.
@shafer.chris.22444 жыл бұрын
That's cause it is over, literally giannis is the most dominate player in the league right now, and his team is most dominant. It's been over now the question is can Giannis win mvp DPOY and a title in the same yr. hahah
@tigerhoods79274 жыл бұрын
Lol these bronsexual analysts on these sports shows are so delusional
@vincentjack7354 жыл бұрын
Yet here you are. Hmmm. Interesting
@TropicaIJay4 жыл бұрын
I mean you're here watching him👀
@JelaniakaJC4 жыл бұрын
Tiger Hoods Fr, they need to STOP sometimes🤦🏾♂️
@jpark12774 жыл бұрын
really rare to see a debate this healthy and logical. probably first time.
@313drepeso3134 жыл бұрын
Shannon is easily my favorite sports analyst minus his obsession with Bron 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ #mancrush
@battlecat4034 жыл бұрын
That's what makes him one of least favourite but Nick Wright is by far the worst lol
@313drepeso3134 жыл бұрын
@@battlecat403 I swear I feel you, his sense of humor saves him for me. However LeShannon does irritate my soul lol, but yes Nick is the worst of the worst.