LeBron James or Magic Johnson: First Take debates which PG they'd rather have | First Take | ESPN

[@edwincolon9072]

Lebron drops 30 with 20 rebounds tomorrow night at center position ESPN next day : who would you have at center Lebron or shaq?

[@jaredkens394]

Edwin Colon 😂😂😂 True dat

[@WaldoTW]

These idiots are redefining what living in the moment means. Now LBJ is 10 times better than magic and would be a better pick for PG.

[@migonzz]

It's called impact

[@derickbrown4014]

Shaq. SIMPLE

[@mikechang7762]

Waldo TW dream on!

[@coldbloodkiller100]

Who would you rather have at Coach: Lebron or Tyron Lue?

[@WhelmedButReady]

That's easy, J.R. Smith

[@jrjr.5311]

Yo mama!

[@jerseybest419]

Euron Greyjoy hold this W

[@DarrionTake]

Neither 😂

[@kingacegreen]

Lebron, ive never seen him get crossed & stepped over.

[@knephsabir3245]

Not a LeBron fan but he's the greatest player in this era of the league and he does great things much respect from a Jordan fanboy.

[@ankletaker2729]

Kneph Sabir I never thought I would see a Jordan fan say that wow, respek

[@jaronmitchell671]

Lebron won’t get the recognition he deserves until he retires smh

[@vt248]

Kneph Sabir no tf he aint. The two skinniest niggas in NBA history dominating him and 2011 and prior it was Kobe & Duncan''s league

[@odellg7800]

Facts he is lebron the best all around player people just have to accept it rather they like it or not

[@ricksanchize3331]

Gtfo, KD better. And Steph Curry 's his daddy r n

[@dimizoe777]

I'm not smoking something 😂😂😂

[@Squadkilla]

Patrick star that's let's you know he was about to say some stupid

[@dimizoe777]

Prestige Ops true

[@JasonLeigh93]

bruh that got me in tears lol

[@BeatsbyZay]

Magic Johnson would tell you himself that LeBron is better.

[@usainphelps1491]

Yeah Magic would say most legends are better than himself. He's humble. That proves nothing that he'd say that

[@John6-40]

Yeah and Jordan has never called himself the goat. These guys have nothing to gain by bragging. Their resume's speak for themselves.

[@KiyanPocket]

and Magic Johnson himself would say that but would still never let Lebron take a W over him.

[@ricksanchize3331]

BeatsbyZay the NBA history books, stats and championship banners would tell you Magic's better...and he fuckin' retired at 32

[@FreezeSolo]

+Khiean Paquete Exactly.

[@itsyoobiiEman]

this is kinda hard but I'm going with Tom Harderway Jr

[@afrogarou]

Emmanuel James i think you’re ignoring Kyle singler

[@willy9775]

xdd

[@yusefsmith8623]

Thats cool, but who the fuck is Tom Harderway? Lol.

[@GEEZYEA777]

Harderway Jr. is extremely underrated

[@epicreroll479]

Jonah Chavanne tell em

[@lijaht7719]

"5 Championships, Not 5 NBA final Losses" Stephen A. Smith you SAVAGE

[@dariusisfamous2840]

At least he ain’t have aids

[@keno1929]

There is sooo much similarity between Bron and Magic man it’s crazy. But LeBron is a better shooter and scorer so I’d have to take him. He can do more

[@kassider9654]

Ken O especially in this era of basketball

[@ricksanchize3331]

Ken O Magic averaged more steals, assists, and up until he came back in 95-96, he averaged more rebounds. So no, Magic actually did more than Le3/8ron

[@skriptedvenom4283]

Rick Sanchize Magic defense will get exposed in the league today

[@rambosexy2009]

Ken O Leloser's fan spotted.

[@rambosexy2009]

Ken O Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@DDDDDDDDDDDDD21]

I'd love to see LBJ playing at PG for the SPURS next year

[@telmolicious]

Like LBJ wants pop screaming at him like an angry dad at his 8 year old. Got 1 word for u: fistacuffs

[@donaldpace9033]

marcelo schmidt nice

[@kevinchavis8462]

That would be incredible. Lebron respects the heck out of coach Pop. Bron would definately follow and they would make each other better.

[@rashadbeckham7141]

Lebron wouldn’t play for the Spurs because he would have to play in system we all know Lebron only wants to play in his system.

[@kaarelkaarelson4509]

i'm early so imma say something stupid... put iman shumpert at SG and he'll play like Kobe...

[@bootybutt_cheek926]

Kaarel Kaarelson lol

[@khalidhaji8519]

How is this even a debate ? Magic been playing PG he's whole career . Y'all need to stop disrespecting the man. lebron is better overall but y'all can't say he better then magic at PG it's like saying is he better then Kareem If he playes center that's jst stupid

[@ankletaker2729]

Khalid Haji well bro you gotta understand, everyone always was bitching about LeBron being the pg of the team saying kyrie ain't no PG or mario aint no PG so really he has been playing that position for most of his career

[@pimpinnevaslipin]

@GNB *But people already made the argument years ago that if Lebron played center he would be better than Kareem,Shaq, & The Dream. . so even if height and weight wise they are not the same people already pout Lebron over them already*

[@rambosexy2009]

pimpinnevaslipin Lebron'd be better than Hakeem? Wow... That's a new one. 😂😂😂😂😂 Bronsexuals are so much fun.

[@rambosexy2009]

pimpinnevaslipin Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@christiannieto9827]

Khalid Haji wrong. Magic is still better than Lebron

[@Jordan5s]

lmao SAS acting like magic ain’t lose 4x in the finals.

[@lakernation26]

makavelixj that’s what I’m saying smh and got swept twice in those finals and got s gentleman sweep by the bulls too tf

[@BossEntertainment215]

ok and ? bron lost 5 times? what's your point ?

[@samuraijack10]

Magic's Finals record: 5-4 LeBron's Finals record: 3-5

[@franswairheard521]

magic lost to legendary teams and LeBron lost to.....the mavs lmao lebum

[@HopefulKingsFan]

He um also won 5 times

[@RMUNOZ1963]

The fact he can play point guard is amazing. 13 assists last night awesome!

[@saifdajani]

this man said lebron had kyrie as a star but guess who magic had? kareem , james worthy lmao

[@KewlBlahMuzik]

You weren't listening. He Lebron had a star *leave* him, whereas Magic would've made it work.

[@eefgdddrfdg1497]

Kareem was 42 years old

[@johnnymoondogs1816]

Magic made worthy good and kareem is getting old Magic>Lebron

[@arieshipolito68]

Johnny Moondogs you dont understand boy their so much talent today tho and magic already had kareem in his rookie season and a better org tho lebron in his rookie season played to a mediocre cavs if lebron in his rookie season got shaq rigth away he can win a chip in his rookie days

[@wornoutshoes11]

@@johnnymoondogs1816 WORTHY was better than MJ in college at some point idiot. Haha...magic never made him good... He was already a great college player. WORTHY became the third option with the lakers with magic. At least know the players kid. Dont just post random bs. Its embarrassing. 🙄

[@KSU-ce2uc]

Magic...a much better leader that everyone wanted to play with. Much, much better in transition. Magic was a confident leader from the jump... From high school to college to the pros, always led teams to titles.

[@ankletaker2729]

KSU 1989 Magic is not better than LeBron in transition my boy, lebron is either dunking it on ya head, drawing an and 1 or dishing it out to the open man, magic literally passed and at times finished so stop it idiot

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

How is Magic better in transition?! Lebron at his peak was the best transition player in NBA history. The only players that come close are Michael Jordan, Steve Nash (incredible vision in the open court) Magic (loved to speed the game up and great creativity too) and Jason Kidd (incredible in the open court in his prime). Giannis is probably gonna take that crown for transition king soon. Durant and Larry Legend were also monsters in the open court/transition. I would give it to prime Lebron because he was just too big, fast and strong. Plus he could finish with contact, use both hands too. And he had the vision to find teammates in dangerous areas, but most times he didn't even need them.

[@FreezeSolo]

Well said.

[@rambosexy2009]

Nostalgic Bliss Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@_Maxten]

When he made his comeback at PF, i heard that his teammates didn’t like how magic came out of nowhere and acted like he owned the team. And magic apparently was like, “ok, well im not playing anywhere else. Its been a fun year” and then retired and gave the keys back

[@judascarter8703]

Magic Jordan LeBron Tim Duncan Kareem Best players ever at each position (don't @ me!!)

[@jaredkens394]

Judas Carter Facts 100%

[@tankbusta7436]

Judas Carter you’re right tho. I would say wilt chamberlain at Center but obviously Kareem’s hook was almost unblockable

[@tombradys8thring738]

Magic Jordan Lebron Timmy Wilt

[@onepiece6529]

Curry Harden Kevin Durant DRAYMOND Green Cousins DONT @ ME LMAO

[@PearlJamGuy10]

Brynny211 or bird. Either way both are ahead of LeBron and its not even close

[@Theninja31O]

I love that a person with a negative finals record can be call a top 4 player.😑

[@jmsantiago2663]

Theninja31O Teams win finals. You said it yourself, "PLAYER". As far as individual accomplishments, Lebron is up there.

[@Gmannn04]

Theninja31O that argument is so flawed. Look at the teams he’s faced. Warriors, Spurs, he took down the Raptors and Celtics last year. Jordan had great players in his era but the Jazz were the only team with two superstars other than the Bulls.

[@wornoutshoes11]

@@Gmannn04 you forgetting the SUPERSONICS with PAYTON and SHAWN KEMP kid. Research more.

[@brandonmyers5262]

wornoutshoes11 magic had Kareem for a decade lmao. That helps win championships

[@michaelwoods6272]

wornoutshoes11 Those are not superstars lmao

[@connor5773]

If Lebron starts PG in the finals imagine curry tryna guard him😂😂

[@TheHustla412]

They wouldn’t make curry guard Bron lol

[@lakernation26]

Shit that would be roadkill 😂💀 and they should make Lebron point against Golden state

[@ShutThePuck]

The positions are just so that novices can understand the game of basketball, they don't dictate defensive schemes or duties. If your SF (Lebron) is your best ball handler, even though you have Kyrie on the team you still run the offense through Lebron. He's been performing 'Point Guard' duties for the Cavaliers, and pretty much every team he's been on. Defensively Curry would be on Jr Smith, Klay would guard Crowder, Durant would guard Lebron, Draymond would guard Love, and Zaza would guard Tristan Thompson.

[@Frankiestein88]

To even question who is better is blasphemous. Magic > Lebron

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@Eagles fan since 2006. That's what you should do.

[@oldnbaschool]

My nigga Brian Scalabrine at PG. A legitimate champion and white mamba. You know what I'm sayin?

[@ricksanchize3331]

oldnbaschool this deserves Top Comment status

[@secretspyrecords]

History wil show Scal was a genius; figured how to have the best seat in the house at all Celtics games and get payed for it. mad repect fo the white mamba"

[@theballereli]

way too easy bruh. Magic is Top 5 easy and the best PG ever but c'mon man if LeBron is playing point its a gg. Same height just LeBron is stronger bigger faster shoots slightly better and can score effortlessly. IQ could go either way but I give the edge to Magic and he's a better passer too (LeBron has one too many turnovers every game), and LeBron is better at rebounding and deffending also. C'mon man if you put him at the power forward I'd take Bron over Malone too

[@camarijaybooth]

Baller_Eli he can shoot much better, lebron isn't a shooter by any means but when you need it and he's hot it's going in

[@WhelmedButReady]

Baller_Eli Malone is a better defender, rebounder, mid-range shooter and post player. Which are like all the essentials to be a great 4. Tell me again why you think Bron would be better

[@andreterrell8648]

bron turnovers are late kickouts when hes bout to get a travel once that foot lands lol

[@SShaBazzz]

Baller_Eli you Crazy, Malone is a monster at Power Forward. Why would you go with LeBron over Malone?

[@BigDudeCozby]

Baller_Eli lebron not a better rebounder but is a better all around defender

[@caleb8776]

Magic is the GOAT PG and the GOAT passer.

[@caleb8776]

LeBron is a better player but Magic is who would start at point.

[@camarijaybooth]

John stockton*

[@SShaBazzz]

Caleb Steve Nash is the Goat passer.

[@judascarter8703]

LeBron is just as good. Magic had Kareem

[@alexmotts]

Caleb Steve Nash was a better passer

[@CJVP99]

Based strictly on position PG: Magic SG: MJ SF: LBJ PF: Duncan C: Kareem Based strictly on talent G: MJ G: Kobe F: LBJ F: KD C: Hakeem

[@Wond3rbread45]

GNB how is wilt not there strictly off talent

[@jacobfeliciano9005]

Iverson off talent

[@Ncloud]

Kobe shouldn't be there

[@CJVP99]

GNB right because we’ve seen so many 7 footers with his skills and shooting abilities lol stfu you sound like a hater KD as much of a snake as he is is on pace to pass Kobe and LeBron in scoring

[@CJVP99]

Ryan Collins Wilt played against Plumbers

[@BrianCheng24]

The question is whose the better POINT GUARD, not better player.

[@filvag9522]

Am I the only one who thinks Magic is better?

[@in-vision652]

No you are not. Magic is way smarter and was clutch. Magic told everyone on his team how they were being guarded and what remedy to take during a single time out. Magic played in an era where bBall was ferocious. Not even close. Also, when it comes to entertainment, it's a blowout. Lebron's game is very very very boring.

[@kalanievans2341]

He is

[@in-vision652]

Im smoking you...lol read it again..magic was clutch..Lebron doesn't know what clutch is.. Also you stated things I didn't say. Magic was a ferocious leader, and I said intelligence, didn"t I? Go study film. Go watch all the unbelievable clutch shots magic made. Hmmmm 5 rings? back to back twice? Yeah, you need to go study but start by rereading my comment. you missed some things

[@ralphfurley123]

Magic’s accomplishments are often overlooked! The way he played the game is often forgotten! You probably had to be a fan of basketball back in the 80’s to fully comprehend just how magnificent Showtime Lakers really was! Magic was the orchestrator of the greatest team of all time! ☮️🖖🏽

[@in-vision652]

Yeah, the greatest!!!!

[@danielreid8015]

Magic was a pure pg. I'd have him over James as great as lebron is

[@fricktard12345]

Hank Scorpio I agree but only as a point guard

[@clarencecardenas9241]

Sean James that's what he just said..... Did you not read??

[@samogh2931]

Hank Scorpio Only as a PG. Overall lebron is better than everybody

[@fricktard12345]

Clarence Cardenas Idk if it was his intention but it looked like he said Magic is a better overall player

[@danielreid8015]

Sean James I wasn't. Lebron better player, magic better pg

[@ikeplumo3336]

Give lebron the greatest center of all time his rookie year and give magic the cavs organzation and see who has more rings. Lebron > magic easily

[@ankletaker2729]

Parthion Plays bro give LeBron a legitimate dominant force or even an amazing coach like pop and he would torch the league, they should be happy LeBron doesn't go to the west and team up with kawhi

[@jamesjohnson1522]

Parthion Plays bruhh...you forget, in Magics rookie year, in the Finals, Kareem got hurt, Magic played in his spot and had a triple double with over 40 points without Kareem and they won those finals. Magic always comes through in the clutch...at the most important times. Lebron folded like a cheap tent while Durant was lightin his ass up, and lebron couldn't even get buckets. Give me Magic all day long.

[@seanbell69]

Parthion Plays You mean give Magic more all star teammates than any perennial all star player ever?

[@xxmiltxx9037]

Just A Dude You must be new...Sounds like you started watching the nba in 2010

[@gursewaksingh431]

AnkleTaker 2 lol Lebron ain’t coachable that’s the problem. He wants to be both which is probably why he’s got 5 losses in the finals

[@bobndomleonardi]

Magic got hiv , LeBron doesn't

[@jerroldwilliams1034]

beanie0112 ,lol. Lebron was and is smart enough to not cheat on his wife raw with hoes on the road.

[@vt248]

Polo Lean leBITCH had to run away and jump on stacked ass bandwagons, Magic never joined Philly or Boston

[@ricksanchize3331]

Polo Lean LeBron's a pussy who runs on stacked teams, Magic wasnt

[@iliketoeatpizzas1495]

Rick Sanchize Stupid comment, another stupid comment.

[@ricksanchize3331]

Zephyr Dragon the one that started this thread is. All i did was state the facts. Which will again be proven this coming Summer

[@jacktheripper1652]

"you can get call for a technical foul for having bad breath",... lol!!!

[@HZGamingVR]

When I read this question, in my head is like asking who is better, Mike Tyson or Charlie Z?? LMAO!!

[@maxmx767]

Magic Johnson hands down! 2nd all time on assists, 5 time NBA Champion, General Manager of Show Time. Funny, now that Jordan is out of reach, they are bringing up Magic. Lmao

[@maxmx767]

JSizzleRaps like Korver ? Lmao. Jordan did not run the show??? Lmao. How old are you?? You did not see Jordan play. What you don't understand is that Jordan was willing to be coached. He bought into the system of a rookie coach called Phil Jackson. Jackson wanted to run Tex Winter's Triangle Offense and Jordan understood since the East was so Stacked, it was better to run a different system than anything done at the time in the League. And that has been LeChoke's problem. He has bullied coaches, cause he wants the ball in his hands at all times just to stack Stats. Just to fall short when faced Coaches that run Systems like Pop, Kerr and Carlisle. LeChoke bullied Spoelstra, He did the same with David Blatt. Jordan did not with the Rookie Phil Jackson, now The Greatest Coach of all time with 11 rings! So LeChoke can keep running teams on the Weak Eastern Conference. When he Faces real competition, 3-5. That tells you what you need to know. MJ 6-0. 6 Finals MVPs. 5 Regular Seasons MVPs. 10 Scoring Titles. 31.5 ppg Regular Season average. 30.7 Ppg Playoffs average. But he did not run The Bulls. Lmao.

[@maxmx767]

JSizzleRaps Ask any Respectable player or Journalist aside of any Pistons Bad Boys and They will tell you. LeChoke Choking And disappearance acts in Clutch time have defined his Legacy. He is great, just NOT the Greatest.

[@maxmx767]

JSizzleRaps You are not a Lebron Fan boy! You are a Bronsexual! Lmao

[@maxmx767]

GNB yeah. I know. pippin GOAT. Lmao

[@John6-40]

@Kakaroto - You forgot to mention metric stats like PER. Keep in mind that Lebron hasn't fallen off his prime yet, and Jordan's PER and PPG, etc, all include his time with the Wizards. And Lebron is STILL behind.

[@ProofThatAstrologyIsReal]

Most of us was to young to see magic in his prime so I expect some of y’all voting lebron because y’all only seen lebron 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@vt248]

Earvin "Magic" Johnson👌. Not even a debate

[@thehound3202]

Great topic. Stuff like this is why people watched First Take

[@DenizCDemir]

im glad stephen a. is acknowledging lebron's greatness. i was expecting him to be furious that lebron is being compared to magic especially at the point.

[@subzerofromny735]

SuperPunch76 does he? I mean come on, we all know that he hates Lebron just as much as Skip Bayless

[@lonzosrealdaddy1342]

Jswave 34 nah just doesn't kiss Lebron's ass like u Lebron fan boys wants him to

[@subzerofromny735]

Lonzo's Real Daddy and you kiss Jordan, Kobe, curry and kds asses on a daily basis

[@michaelconner197]

Y'all wake up next to Kobe and Lebron in the morning, fart, and get yourselves stuck to the beds all day.

[@jeanmoleus3590]

Magic all day every day

[@Kevn_DJ]

They must've forgot magic played center and won finals mvp

[@ash7707]

Kevin Ford Lebron played center a lot vs GSW in 2016 too lol

[@pradatune9373]

It says PG tho so it’s irrelevant

[@Kevn_DJ]

CheffClout max said LeBron because he could play center. Magic won a finals mvp playing center when Kareem got hurt. Also if magic worked out like LeBron does now he'd be nearly as athletic, nowhere nears lebrons hops but still big.

[@jaysheat631]

U must have forgot just how bad the competition was in the 80s...no team from the 80s would win shit in today's nba, magic wouldn't even make the finals with that lakers team

[@Kevn_DJ]

Jason A name one player that can hold Kareem

[@sonnywoods6846]

Why is Max Kellerman on this show talking about Basketball??

[@darshin95]

All-Time Team PG: Magic Johnson SG: Michael Jordan SF: Kobe Bryant PF: LeBron James C: Shaquille O' Neal Sixth Man: Larry Bird

[@naturalbornkiller5363]

I would pick magic easy better passing And IQ and he spent his whole career in the finals !!!!

[@ankletaker2729]

Natural born killer you literally just described LeBron, and I dont think magic knows every players spots and sets so

[@johnhawthorne2201]

AnkleTaker 2 nigga magic invented his own style of play called showtime where he literally does no look passes every fast break perfectly to his teammates lol. I’m sure he knows everything his teammates should do

[@russell9411]

Natural born killer you nigga smoking crack if you would take magic over LeBron. I go step further it's a insult to LeBron. You clowns bugging

[@ricksanchize3331]

AnkleTaker 2 well you think wrong. Magic in less times made more Finals, won more Finals, won more individual awards overall and averaged less turnovers. Magic > le3/8ron. Just be happy he was forced to retire at 32, only damn reason this is even a debate bc Magic was better

[@ricksanchize3331]

GNB Magic went to 9 idiot

[@afrogarou]

Lebron James is literally Magic, but better. Kind of like Jordan is literally Kobe, but better.

[@teezy9790]

Nicholas Williams magic has 5 rings Lebron has 5 finals loses I rest my case

[@mrravimc]

Teezy That doesn’t mean he’s better. It’s a team game. As individual players, LeBron > Magic. I think Magic himself would tell you that.

[@yurhomi4478]

Nicholas Williams Exactly.

[@mrravimc]

Teezy I mean, Magic has great teams from the day e stepped in the league. Got to play with the best player in the league as a rookie. LeBron went to a Cleveland team that, apart from him, has basically had no success.

[@NoFilterX]

Nicholas Williams in that logic, kd is better than lebron. lebrons only better than kd because hes a better leader. individually kd a better offensive player cus he doesnt have to use his size to bulldoze to da rim, hes da best versitile scorer in the game. & defense is on par.

[@0fficialakh]

Thats like calling lebrin the frozen 1 after the maverick finals

[@djdavisbeatz]

"Magic Johnson 5 NBA Champion not 5 Loses" That cut LeBron deep

[@sanjeevkumar616]

DJ Davis Oh... Has Magic a team like faced GSW( not even bird's Celtics) Nd Don't compare Irving to Kareem

[@marioandrew1082]

DJ Davis Sam Jones 10 Rings > Jordan 6 Rings Pippen 6 Rings > Magic 5 Rings Rings = Team Award Magic Johnson came in with All Stats Kareem, Jamaal Wilks, Norm Nixon a few seasons before getting all star James Worthy First 7 seasons Lebron had no hall of fame players or great coaches and still was able to reach NBA Finals in 2007 something that Magic couldn't do Lebron better Scorer, Defender, 3pt shooter Then Magic Magic better passer 2011 Playoffs Heat 4 Bulls 1 Lebron locked down Mvp prime D Rose to 7% FG when he guarded him in 4th quarters games 2 through 5 Magic Johnson couldn't guard fast point guards like D Rose Lebron 22-33 FG and 8-10 in 3pt for 61 Points vs Bobcats 43-39 Magic never had a 50 point game Magic better passer Lebron better overall player

[@djdavisbeatz]

Mario Andrew Well you said all that for no reason. I was quoting what Steven A said so...😂😂💯

[@djdavisbeatz]

Plus you named all those people who at the end of the day better or not has more rings than the superior. Main Goal is to get Championships not compare stats to see who's better. How can I call a man a great with more Finals loses than Wins

[@Jthagod-e2n]

@@sanjeevkumar616 Would lebron beat Bird's Celtics?

[@jasonpatrick6292]

Lmao😂😂..you can have a bad breath and still get a technical foul...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jasonl1184]

they really gotta bring up that zone defense wasnt allowed back in the day (harder to play defense), if they bring up the game was also most physical

[@reallife935]

Lebron the better Overall player Magic Johnson the better Passer

[@natelarue5127]

reallife935 tht would be a nice balance tht no1 would see ir b abke to defend💯everytime i thought kawhi would have to b sg i forgot bron can just play pg also

[@rambosexy2009]

reallife935 Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@diegobascara3279]

true but lebron is an all time great passer cant deny

[@rambosexy2009]

Diego Bascara Yeah.. That's why he's No.1 all time in turnovers in the Playoffs. 😂😂😂😂

[@rebelsoundz]

I thought he was starting point guard his whole career, they saying Lebron playing PG for the first time in 12 years when for the past 12 years he has been the one bringing the ball up the court, and running the plays go figure

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

rebelsoundz He plays point/Forward

[@Rushking20]

rebelsoundz fr

[@ismaelgeelle2865]

He does pretty much play pg just not officially/technically

[@GEEZYEA777]

They’re debating who they’ll take at the point not who is better at the point

[@imhaiden8464]

Magic > LeBron Both are extremely good but Magic played a much shorter career and gas 10x better stats in the PG range. Magic has 2 steals titles Magic has more rings Magic averages more assists and less turnovers LeBron can get 15 assists but he'll do it with 4 turnovers and Magic will do it with 1

[@stfleurantoine9157]

Lmao Technical for having Bad Breath😀😀😂😂

[@kurtrogers9658]

Now this is a convo i like

[@misterrockster]

SAS said lebron played with kyrie? Since when was kyrie better than Kareem?

[@reallife935]

misterrockster To answer your question hell naw

[@fifaelregala2610]

LeBron is Magic on steroids. LeBron is way more athletic, a much better scorer , re-bounder, and shooter. LeBron has better regular stats and advanced stats, in their prime and career totals. The only thing Magic does better is passing and even that he barely has an edge.

[@nostalgicbliss5547]

Magic is a much better passer. Magic's passing and court vision is what made him unique as a player. Lebron's freakish athleticism and basketball IQ is what makes his unique and an all-time great. So you can't say Magic has barely an edge because without his passing gift and vision, he'd have just been another undersized PF. Who might have been an all-star a couple of times, but definitely not an all-time great.

[@ricksanchize3331]

fifa el regala Magic was a much better passer, defender, rebounder, leader, teammate, competitor and winner. If he didnt come back in 95-96 he would have a higher career RPG than le3/8ron as well

[@rambosexy2009]

fifa el regala Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@TheSands83]

fifa el regala how in the fuck is he a better rebounder? They are identical in rebounds per game. Now by the time Lebron retires magic will avg. More rebounds per game. And I'm so sick of hearing about bigger stronger faster shit. First off magic is taller than Lebron. Lebron weighs more. He isfaster but as far as indurance magic has got him on that. He could run full tilt all game in a 108 degree Boston garden. Lebron plays one game Vs the spurs with no Air conditioning n he cramps up n sits out the end of a FINALS game! You could cut magics foot off n he would tried to get out there n play. Lbj gets a Lil cramp n he sits out the end of a finals game? He is mentally weak compared to bird,jordan,magic,kareem, etc. Heart and will is a huge factor. Not to mention he is not a good clutch player compared to the greats like bird and Jordan and magic. Also there has been slot of players bigger than magic. Stronger more athletic. Don't make them better basketball players

[@rambosexy2009]

Ballin Too And Magic averaged 4+ more assists per game. 😂😂😂😂

[@andresmartinez8439]

Magic Johnson! Great defender, offensively gifted, a leader, a legend, and an assassin killer!

[@marioandrew1082]

Andres Martinez Magic Johnson wasn't a great defender 🤔 I can't tell you never watched Magic 😂

[@ankletaker2729]

Mario Andrew he described LeBron

[@andresmartinez8439]

Mario Andrew When I play NBA2K18 against the Showtime Lakers he locks me down 😂

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@@ankletaker2729 Lebron is not a good leader. He's an arrogant bitch that only cares about him.

[@dannycooper8253]

One year? Bro he lost in 4 finals. He is tragic.

[@513ovaeverything7]

Depends on which era they are playing in..... the point guards 2day are asked to do a lot more scoring today than they were back in magic's playing days

[@mendelvioglo8219]

i'm a lebron fan but i'll take magic over him at the pg

[@Jay23nc]

Lebron is a Point Forward, Magic was 6'9 Point Guard that average double digit assist

[@giorosal4552]

Lebron just played PG for one game and now they're comparing him to Magic wtf

[@reytheking5606]

buLLthicc L where's the comparison ? The discussion is about who u would rather have at the point, delete this idiotic comment instantly.

[@Cahluvca]

lmaoooo

[@davidgilmour3173]

Rey TheKing I think you’re the idiot here

[@krfroze]

Rey TheKing they're comparing who's the better PG delete your dumbass comment 😂😂😂😂

[@giorosal4552]

Rey TheKing I guess you did not understand

[@C.kBrown]

That pass at 1:01.. idk Magic was groundbreaking.

[@KoKoNuTz232]

PG: Magic SG: MJ SF: Larry bird PF: Tim Duncan C: Kareem Lebron is not in my starting 5. I don't need a player that cannot play in a system. He might be my 6th man. Subs: 1. Isaiah Thomas (pistons). 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Lebron 4. Hakeem Olajuwon 5. Shaq.

[@prooftjmaximize3573]

Swear some of yall dont watch basketball, yah just hear names and say yeah he is good I heard lol

[@rondamton5757]

TJ Simp Casual fans

[@jordan12118]

At Point Magic, overall LeBron

[@superiorcactus]

Jordan Davis faxx

[@ifebanks95]

Magic is more a winner than LeChoke...

[@jaredkens394]

IB B. Pippen 6 Rings > Magic 5 Rings Sam Jones 10 Rings > Jordan 6 Rings = Team Award idiot Magic better passer LeBron better Overall player

[@ricksanchize3331]

Jordan Davis Go watch the game when Magic played Center. Magic at PG & Magic overall's the correct answer

[@ShutThePuck]

Max brought up 'Tragic Johnson', yea big fucking deal losing to Bird's Celtic's in the Finals. 'The Frozen One' lost to the 2011 Dallas Mavericks, you can't even compare that shit.

[@ankletaker2729]

Puck after that ONE loss, LeBron literally had the best 6 year stretch of any single basketball player so shut ya mouth boy

[@ShutThePuck]

AnkleTaker 2 It still happened. Can't reference Magic losing to Bird but ignore Lebron losing to Dirk. Also "the best 6 year stretch of any single basketball player", get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Bill Russell won 8 in a row while winning 4 MVP's in 5 years! Michael won 4 championships in 6 years with 3 MVP's while taking almost 2 years off. Educate yourself kid.

[@ShutThePuck]

JSizzleRaps I brought up Bill Russell because of the claim that Lebron has had the best 6 year run of any player ever since his 2011 meltdown against Dallas. This is absolutely false. You don't have the authority to discredit an era or Russell's accomplishments so you can't just act like his 8 championships in a row while winning 4 of 5 MVP's didn't happen just because you want to pretend that Lebron is the alpha and the omega. Secondly the objective is to win, not to build up stats and show off one's versatility. To use all those gifts you claim Lebron has in terms of being a better player than Jordan or anyone who ever lived, to win, because it doesn't matter if he rebounds more, if he assists more, if he is "more versatile" etc IF HE DOESN'T WIN. Jordan always found a way to win, which is the whole freaking point, and that is why he will always be better at Basketball than Lebron. And I'm not saying statistics and all that shit doesn't matter, but that's just the entrance exam kid, everybody in the top 10 has great stats, everybody in the top 10 has MVP's, scoring titles, etc, but you don't climb that top 10 ladder with stats, you climb it with championships.

[@ShutThePuck]

GNB You can't even comprehend English yet you're calling somebody else a kid. The claim made was that Lebron has had the greatest 6 year stretch of any player ever since his 2011 meltdown. 8 championships in a row while also winning 4 MVP's in 5 years is a better stretch than Lebron's 3 Championships with 2 MVP's and 3 Finals losses. It's also not better than Jordan's 4 in 6 years with 3 MVP's while retiring for almost 2 years. Make all the excuses you want 'kid', ya'll Lebron stans can't accept facts 😂😂, always hating on everybody else, constantly shitting on everyone else's achievements to prop up Lebron like he's your God or something, everybody's championships don't mean anything to ya'll, Lebron's are the greatest championships in the history of championships and each worth 3 in your minds 🤣🤣

[@legendcarter3451]

The frozen one

[@charlesislaw]

During the Baseball World Series, THIS hypothetical B.S. is the lead topic?? lolol..

[@vedantpatel4479]

Steven A said "I'm not smoking something" lmao

[@Jay23nc]

Can't take this show serious if they are going to try to make Lebron a Point Guard

[@rayleigh8]

put Lebron on the 80s lakers, he would have tried to convert kareem into bosh, Kareem of course wouldnt have allowed it. James worthy would have been completely ineffective because he cant shoot. The only one who would have benefited from lebron playing style, would have been byron Scott, nobody else. Kareem would have demanded the weak minded lebron to be traded or he would walked off the team.

[@robbereal1982]

People are smoking crack these days. LeBron is not better than magic at all.

[@JamesJackson-iq8jw]

robbereal1982 Magic Johnson better passer Lebron better Overall player Take your biased hate on 😂

[@robbereal1982]

James Jackson no he's not. Magic is better passer better post player more MOVES better 3 ball more clutch. How is LeBron better? And I'm not being biased that's the truth. You should go watch ESPN classic or something.😅

[@reallife935]

robbereal1982 3point% LeBron 34.3% > Magic 30.3% Don't know where you get your research from Magic wasn't a good 3point shooter at all Magic Johnson better Passer LeBron better Scorer, 3pt shooter, Defender then Magic LeBron more versatile then Magic do to his Defense and Athletic advantage Defender 2011 Playoffs Heat 4 Celtics 1 LeBron locked down Mvp prime D Rose to 7% FG when he guarded him games 2 through 5 Magic couldn't guard fast and quick Point Guards thats why Byron Scott used to Guard Point Guards Scorer LeBron 22-33 FG and 8-10 in 3pt for 61 Points vs Bobcats 43-39 Magic Johnson never had a 50 Point game Magic Johnson better passer then Magic LeBron better Overall player then Magic Defense

[@robbereal1982]

reallife935 here you go with stats and numbers I'm talking intangibles buddy try again. It's like saying Tyson Chandler is a better shooter than kobe. So chill with the empty LeBron stats. Magic is better than him period

[@robbereal1982]

reallife935 and don't bring up LeBron and 2011 lol

[@zetsutsuletsu2034]

I want them both. I want Magic at the 1. Jordan at the 2. Lebron at the 3 Hakeem at the 4 and Kareem at the 5. Unstoppable.

[@damiengray3872]

LoL Max hit'em with the Bobby Knight Slogan, Draft him & play him at Center 😂!!!

[@MarioLovesYou2]

Max talking about irrelevant shit after Stephen A made his argument.

[@jimmyrecard4390]

Standard!

[@kfcmanager759]

Lebron a better overall player but Magic Johnson the better passer

[@anythingcrazy9582]

LMAO. MAGIC WASN'T OUTSCORED BY A ROLE PLAYER LIKE JASON TERRY IN THE FINALS EVEN WITH A SUPERTEAM #LMAO

[@24uber]

J Terry also outscored Kobe on the way to sweep them🤦🏾‍♂️ held Kobe to 17pts last two games while he avg 21+

[@evilepuna6089]

that's how great he is not only the greatest sf but also pg when they need him to which I think he is because he's practically doing the same thing but only thing plugging him as a pg in the lineup. Goat.

[@evilepuna6089]

max needs to leave basketball alone and stick to boxing talk , he'll no magic is a better passer than bron it's not even close, passing is bron best skill set.

[@craigmorshead2738]

Versatility is definitely an underrated intangible in basketball.

[@emmanuelloudaros]

1. Michael "air" Jordan 2. Wilt "ladies" Chamberlain 3. Lebron "King" James 4. Kobe "Mamba" Bryant 5. Bill Russell

[@mitchellmartinsky2299]

bird is should 3

[@ItsBenRoyboy]

Emmanuel Loudaros 1. Jordan 2. Magic 3. Kareem 4. Shaq 5. Bird 6. Tim Duncan 7. Wilt 8. Bill Russell 9. Lebron 10. Kobe

[@TartarianTopG]

Shakur Shabazz you have lebron at 9:(

[@ItsBenRoyboy]

GNB i hope your a woman the way your so emotionally invested in my ranking these dudes.

[@ItsBenRoyboy]

Gabriel Waggoner ive seen Jordans era, Lebron physically and athletically is top 3 of all time. But overall player, leadership, clutchness, toughness, and heart, no way is he above Magic, Bird, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, or Duncan. These guys played in a tougher era and were cold blooded ESPECIALLY IN THE CLUTCH.

[@cedrickcarson3201]

Such a shame that winning gets more and more devalued when it comes to LeBron..

[@kagisomabele4936]

Cedrick Carson So true

[@marioandrew1082]

Cedrick Carson Rings Pippen 6 > Magic 5 Rings Sam Jones 10 > Jordan 6 Rings = Team Award Not a Individual award More rings doesn't equal better basketball player You act like Lebron doesn't have 3 Finals Mvps and never won before I like how y'all try to use the ring argument to hate on Lebron but people call Jordan the 🐐 but he doesn't have the most rings

[@cedrickcarson3201]

Kagiso Mabele its annoying really. Talent AND winning should matter..

[@samogh2931]

Cedrick Carson James Jones >Kevin durant. 3>1 right?? Lebron is miles ahead of magic

[@lonzosrealdaddy1342]

S Amogh 6-0 > 3-5

[@luckylight8592]

Smith always hating man has to bring up brons finals losses every time

[@godpigeon2784]

Fox King So should we just ignore that fact?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@brashadcarr6759]

El Stimpy nigga magic lost 4

[@MCFoultier]

Well, Skip is gone, it´s somewhere in the contract of the show I guess..

[@MCFoultier]

who gives a fuck? it´s team sport.

[@NoFilterX]

Fox King nigga yall bring up lebron team wins against kd all the time though. individually kd is better, ppl only put lebron on top because hes a better leader and bigger in size

[@deandrepage1048]

2019 point guards are asked to do more than the old days = switch onto Centers at the rim because of Pick & Roll. 😀😀😀 They also have to take on more of the scoring because the change in the NBA Defensive Rules to encourage a point guard to attack the basket without being touched.

[@docrussojr]

Who's the better Center Nate Robinson or Wilt Chamberlain?

[@thagatecityking]

Magic 5 rings. LeBron 3 Once again story over.and magic didn't win one riding Wade's coattail or give up and run when he had too much pressure soley on him

[@roystarr6124]

The GateCityKing your right he rode Kareem’s and James Worthy Coattails

[@Limessss]

LBJ>>>>>>>>>> Magic

[@rambosexy2009]

Lebron James Lebron = an unskilled loser 😂😂😂😂

[@ricksanchize3331]

*******TRIGGERED*********** Magic > > > LeRest aka LeWhine aka LeBRICK aka LeFlop aka LeIneedMoAllStarTeammates

[@michaelconner197]

If everybody is just going by assists, then john Stockton is the prototypical point, the guy had the most assist per game for a season and three of the four top marks in a season. Plus he has the most career steals and assists and is only half an assist shy of magic's career assist per game mark.

[@DeeNice323]

Michael Conner magic set records in 11 seasons it took John Stockton to break in 20 seasons no comparison

[@michaelconner197]

Dariusthelakerfan john Stockton broke magics record in his 11th season, and then went on to crush it by more than 5,000 assists. John Stockton lead the league in assists 9 times compared to magic's 4, and john stocktons 5 best assist seasons 14.5apg, 14.2apg, 13.8apg, 13.7apg, and 13.6apg are all better than magics best at 13.1apg. So I really don't see how you can say there's no comparison in terms pure point guard. In terms of overall greatness magic has it, but just for pure point it's a coin toss.

[@tc8644]

ERVING MAGIC JOHNSON "IS BETTER THAN Lebron James. PERIOD 💯

[@young5_b]

TC plz stop it come on now!

[@samhopkins3610]

No he’s not

[@gabee3993]

Magic is a better prime PG. But Lebron gives you near Magic prime PG ability while being a legit 27-30PPG scorer with better athletiscm. Lebron is a better overall player than magic.

[@SwishScopeOfficial]

The irony. When MJ slotted in at the 1 position and had that insane all-rounded average as a PG, the EXACT SAME discussion was brought up with people thinking MJ was going to take Magic's title as the best PG. History repeats itself

[@Superboi100]

Max L-ellerman

[@tijan8948]

Qisthatdude I second that

[@vt248]

Qisthatdude W

[@vt248]

8 M's he hasnt won shit, he's almost as dumb as yo ass, but you take da crown there, idiot

[@MrJuiceman97]

Giannis will be the next forward to play point

[@stormteam3004]

Abass jalloh he already is playing pg

[@evanmonast5522]

I'm taking LeBron at whatever position I can get him at. Including head coach, gm, owner, anything

[@GyasiLinje]

Magic had Kareem, Worthy...the SHOWTIME LAKERS which is way better and more than Kyrie!

[@mr.franklinjackson7056]

I would take Magic, he would never let his team down. Physical game when he played the game. Go back all of the lebron fans and take a good look at Magic's career starting with his rookie season. And watch how he played the game, it's like night and day between him and lebron. No comparison

[@ely1127]

Magic all day

[@King-if5kh]

Michael Jordan in the 1989 season 32ppg 8reb and 8 assist 53%fg lebum james never put up those numbers.

[@reallife935]

jc jordan Jordan never avg a triple double in NBA Finals LeBron 33 PPG and 12 RPG and 10 APG and 56% FG

[@King-if5kh]

reallife935 your right and lebum never put up 41ppg on 50%8reb and 6assist in NBA finals Jordan did that in 93 finals and the bulls actually won the series. Jordan 41ppg in 93 is still an NBA record and he did so on 50%

[@King-if5kh]

GNB Jordan made it all the way to the eastern conference finals in 1989

[@tombradys8thring738]

jc jordan Jordan couldn't win without Scottie Pippen.

[@ricardolozano6265]

Lavar Ball No titles for lebron without kyrie and wade and bosh

[@PharaohLawLess1]

Of course Magic Johnson is a better point guard than Lebron. I still have Jason Kidd as my starting all time point guard bcuz he plays defense and shoots a higher 3 point percentage especially later on in his career

[@goofygoober4972]

PharaohLawLess1 Kidd was a career 40% FG shooter idk if you'd want him starting lmao. If you want a PG that plays defense and can score Stockton or CP3 is the guy. Kidd only became a decent shooter as he got old and became a solid one when he was way past his prime.

[@PharaohLawLess1]

+Goofy Goober But what Jidd has over Stockton and CP3 is rebounds AND he can guard 3 positions (point guards, shooting guards and small fowards) bcuz he's 6ft 4in....both sides of the court to think about....

[@goofygoober4972]

PharaohLawLess1 he wasn't guarding SFs lol. Stockton held his own against some SGs too. And both could actually score much better than Kidd ever could. Cp3 and Stockton are still elite defenders too.

[@PharaohLawLess1]

Goofy Goober But in my starting 5 which consist of Jordan at shooting guard (of course), Lebron At small forward, Hakeem Olajuwon at power forward and Kareem Abdul Jabbar at center.....I don't need a scoring point guard. He's still a better defender and rebounder than Stockton and CP3. Kobe would be my 6 man off the the bench

[@PharaohLawLess1]

+leibniz But Stickton could hardly guard point guards or anybody where as Kidd was a defender. Everybody knows this

[@boostjunkie2320]

I am a LeBron fan, raised right outside of Cleveland and I wouldn't be able to argue against someone saying that Magic is better because I feel like both players have an argument. Both all time greats

[@TheCephalon]

I'm sure lebron would have loved to have Kareem Abdul kabar on his team for his entire career

[@kfcmanager759]

Lebron > MJ

[@TIMELESSBACKDROPS]

Magic's the greatest. End of story!!

[@AnthonyTheChampDeJesus]

magic still better stop

[@AnthonyTheChampDeJesus]

BK 3 rings cant beat 5 and also magic aint even finish out his career magic more clutch way better passer rebounder on ball defender. your blastpheumus

[@QBeezzy11]

Anthony Dejesus so Sam Jones is better than MJ

[@AnthonyTheChampDeJesus]

QBeezzy11. where talking magic lebron theres no comparison besides points what lebron got on magic nothing stop seriously you dont ball if you think otherwise

[@AnthonyTheChampDeJesus]

QBeezzy11 if thats how you feel ima kobe bird fan

[@KiyanPocket]

BK Well, compared to 'Bron, there's more legends that are definitely more clutch than Lebron when taking a game winner. All Lebron does is go for easy shots, which is why he takes less shots against the Spurs with the Klaw guarding him.

[@skeeter323]

It never fails..... In any individual comparisons SAS goes right to team accomplishments

[@steveasare6135]

Stephen A.: I'm not smoking something. Max: Are you sure?