Stephen A. Smith fired up over Michael Jordan's superteam comments | First Take | ESPN

[@gerremyajoseph6365]

Stephen is gonna make Max cry one of these days😂 “just stop it you’re embarrassing yourself”

[@cheekahkuresa6585]

Stick to what you know Max.And that is boxing.Because Stephen A Smith won by TKO with the NBA.

[@nyelement007]

I feel you max. Mj is just mad. Theres alotta good teams. Lakers clippers jazz 76ers rockets nets warriors celtics heat raptors blazers nuggets. Any of these teams can win. I'm biased I want the Lakers to win but anyone can win as of today. Theres no clear favorite. Just biased opinions. Well.know come all star weekend maybe...

[@rebbur1tew1]

Same way he cried when Max told him and his hype man Jay Williams how the finals would go and where Kyrie and KD would end up. Jay Williams punk ass arguing for the sake of arguing knowing it wasn't 95% that KD was going to Knicks.

[@ayejay2519]

@@rebbur1tew1 lol you just put jay will in a casket lol

[@SheliaYates-u4i]

max to intelligent for stephen A myth, max makes stephen A myth lie,a lot of people don't know that jordan made phone calls for players to come to chicago,Horace grant was a dam good player,jordan paying stephen A myth to talk good about him like kobe us to call him

[@9Authentic]

I really think espn tells Max to disagree sometimes just so him and SAS can have a debate 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@bostonbruins1235]

9Authentic .. of course they do !

[@SuckaFree-zq9rh]

Facts

[@naisu5298]

just like when skip was on here

[@hichemhamidi5312]

9Authentic bro of course otherwise there would be no show

[@deadfresh1298]

9Authentic max don’t kno shit fr lol

[@locomixer]

kukoc getting constanly disrespected.

[@bridgeboysdk4915]

All time fav bull facts right here

[@Theyaintme_cb6]

KuKoc was good not a All Star doe

[@gloedup150]

No defense Kukoc was in Phil Jacksons dog house most of the time

[@nkm11tbm]

Glo'ed Up except when Phil Jackson draw up a game winning play for Kukoc

[@lenoxwheat438]

loco mixer i was saying the same thing

[@tevincollins2869]

Mike had Lola bunny , tweety bird , bugz Scottie pippen, Dennis Rodman

[@jaguardestiny999]

Nice!

[@KdOdom7]

🤣

[@marlinmartin3891]

Lol

[@BigLLenox]

Golden state won 73 game and add Kevin Durant, Imagine if 72 win bulls add Hakim Olajuwon on their team

[@TheCephalon]

white chocolate the warriors lost like 5 players. So they didn't just "add" him. They lost their center, small forward, and several key bench players

[@russellstuff-her7017]

TheCephalon they didn't lose any starters and added the 2nd or 3rd best player in the NBA to their starting 5.. white chocolate is dead right.... if the bulls added Hakiem, they'd still be winning today... p.s. LeBron nor K.D would beat K.Lenord 1 on 1 so yes 2nd and 3rd best respectively

[@rambojohnj.6117]

TheCephalon EXAAAACTLY. Or imagine the Bulls got a young Shaq. Yeah, ok, that's fair.

[@davishoward7235]

Russell Stuff-her What? Warriors did lose starters... they lost Barnes and Bogut... two starters...

[@northphilly1106]

white chocolate Just stop it. You have Steph curry(top pg in history, The best point guard in the league and best shooter of all time), Kevin Durant(top sf in history, The second best small forward in the league, a seven footer with handles, range and plays like a guard), Klay Thompson(The third best shooting guard guard in the league, second best shooter in the league, top 10 best shooter of all time), draymond Green(Second best power forward in the league, defensive player of the year). Better bench(young, Iggy, McGee)[4 all stars, 1 mvp and 1 back to back mvp/first unanimous MVP, 73 win team, 15-1 in post season and has the best offensive and defensive efficiency rating in the league].This not even me dickriding, there clearly the best team in history and are undefeatable, bulls don’t stand a chance.

[@donchameleon4916]

I don't like the GSW, but the only shady move the franchise ever did was to sign Durant. Curry was drafted (and ignored by many other teams), the same with Thompson, and don't even get me started with Green on the second round. Too fucking bad other teams can't scout. How many teams can boast about 3 starters being home grown?

[@Regj921]

San Antonio Spurs Duncan being mentored with Robinson, Ginoboli being a huge steal and nearly being drafted 59th or 58th overall, and Parker.

[@c.kizzee8961]

Regj921 so I guess San Antonio was a Superteam too.ijs This should be the goal of every organization. Grow and Develop your players.

[@jongmacinas2580]

I believe the 'superteam' term used is about superstars coming together. That means drafted developed talents dont count. So yes gsw didnt qualify as one until they got KD.

[@Caulkkain365]

Wouldn't call signing the best player available "Shady" he was available, and they wanted him. Wouldn't even call it weak or "shady" on Durant part

[@jacoblabruyere2790]

Caulkkain365 exactly, only thing I'd call it is smart on both sides lol

[@TheDeadHead420]

Hearing Stephen A. tell Kellerman "You're embarrassing yourself" is long overdue.

[@demetriusreed2295]

The point that missed is that MJ was saying that they make super teams through free agency not through the draft and that is what MJ was saying!!!

[@JETVISION1]

You're TOTALLY correct!

[@morsteen]

Yup. Its 100 percent true. They had to draft and developed the hell out of the bulls in order to dethrone the pistons. Godamn Jordan played like 5 years with crap.

[@morsteen]

@william manket yes MJ had to wait for stars to be drafted and developed. 1984-1991 iirc were all non championship seasons playing with mostly old schoolers from the late 70s early 80s.

[@antoniowilson4579]

Thank you

[@dustonlindeman3368]

Golden State drafted Klay,steph & Draymond and that won a title

[@bienpena6114]

Golden state wins championship then kevin durant goes to golden state. Michael jordan got eliminated by the pistons so he took on the challenge. He did not join forces with magic johnson, larry bird or with the pistons

[@brandonborak9979]

Bien Pena h

[@brandonborak9979]

Bien Pena y

[@NIN10DOXD]

The Pistons got old and fell apart while Jordan and Pippen reached their prime and beat up an old geriatric Lakers team.

[@bunscinnayums6305]

He got rodman tho

[@veksone77]

Why would Bird or Magic care about Jordan? Magic was going to the finals ever year, they didn't need Jordan. Same with Bird. Those teams were stacked with hall of famers..

[@AMAXReacts]

Grant wasn't a star, I agree, but he did make the All-Star team once, along with getting all defensive 2nd team honors 4 times, which isn't something easily accomplished, and during that championship bulls team first 3-peat, Grant's performances were at it's peak, averaging a double double, at the time.

[@jacobmeglich6699]

maxXpotential wasn't a all star but probably the best role player in the league like iggy lol. Lowkey he's a Allstar but he's a 6th man on the warriors

[@theman9048]

Cartwright made one too along with bj

[@recoverywillcome5937]

Theman During the Bulls 3peat Jordan and Pippen were the only all stars.. Grant wasn't an all star until 94 which was after the 3peat.. Grant was an all an star caliber player on the Orlando Magic

[@LordJeckel]

Jordan built up players to be great and won rings with them. Lebron brings in or joins players that are already great in an attempt to get easy rings. That's the biggest difference. Those teams weren't built as "superteams" like the ones these days. They were developed into great teams over time.

[@lenoxwheat438]

maxXpotential he was with Orlando by then

[@Noelfuga300]

The bulls and MJ BECAME a great team TOGETHER....they didn’t put a bunch of stars together to win

[@bakgammon]

Noel Perez Same result plus theres no rule about signing good players

[@Doraulxd]

So did Warriors?

[@takesiko7138]

Dumb ass nigga so did the warriors . Research before you type dumb shit

[@fakename5625]

the warriors did the same thing

[@danielperry6557]

Rob K. Not before he won 3 rings, he didn't ring chase like durant bitch ass.

[@unklegordo8744]

Ho grant was decent.... He felt like a superstar to us because of the goggles and nba jam

[@223G22]

SAS is always fired up about something

[@sethandrew3625]

1wayq lol right. Read the title like damn what a surprise

[@MindMan424]

1wayq because he has a passion for sports that's why

[@OKCthunderfansincechamps]

1wayq hes fake ass fuck i saw through him with the kyrie interview

[@Chris-wq3pe]

..pity it's all hot air and hollering, though

[@mystical_raze3646]

+OKC thunder fan since 9/23/17 2018 champs thunder suck

[@0-Elias-0]

"MJ, Pippen, *Horace Grant* . That's a superteam." Max, you're embarrassing your fans & supporters, bro. Tell ESPN to burn the tapes.

[@sebastianpeter9854]

LMAO

[@NotoriousNYNJ]

Will Levy the nba is full of shooters

[@joeygula581]

MaxPro. Not a super team

[@ricardosines4423]

MaxPro at that time yes, drexler, barkley, and magic has no enough help, imagine pippen with any of those 3

[@sameerahwilliams3178]

Ok

[@jaymick31]

MJ's 1st championship team only had one all-star, him. Not one other player on team got one. Pippen didn't become an all-star till the next season. Steven A is right.

[@Romans8-9]

Pippen was an all star in 1990 before the 3peat.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Did you already forgot Pippen bodying up and shutting down Magic? Jordan was getting a little exposed, Pippen switched on Magic and the Bulls murdered the Lakers from that point on. If that's not a defensive star, then idk what bball means to you.

[@erik666111]

jaymick31 And Jordan never called Ewing, Magic or somebody else to beat the Bad Boys. He come back every year and beat them. Lebron do just the opposite thing and after one lose against Boston he go for help in Miami with one HoF and one all-star player. And where Jordan getting exposed in 1991 finals? He was 31 ppg, 11 rpg, 6 apg. and 3 spg... I mean what you want?

[@calvinbrice.t2140]

Michael Jordan was guarding magic most of the time. Pippen guarded him and very well I️ might add and people remember that but Jordan had magic most of the time.

[@MINK2393]

jaymick31 Pippen became an all star in 90 but I get you Bill Cartwright was old and BJ Armstrong i think was an All Star but he was no Kyrie, Kevin Love, or D Wade

[@si.campos548]

Grant was an all star 1994 ( jordan was retired). And the 2nd 3 peat rodman was 34 , jordan 33, pip 31.

[@ChillydontCap]

What's that got to do with anything? How old is LeBron since you know everyone's age?

[@cozyfades1587]

Charles Davis Bron living rent free in your head lmao

[@CatACor21.]

He ain’t lying!!!!! It’s true! When he says “super team” he means franchise players playing together. I’m with Stephen A on this. Max you tripping!

[@zcorpalpha2462]

" No internet during Jordan's Time period. I feel respect went further back then. Sports & Fans were in synchronization. Sorry, the 80's & 90's which forever be legend. 🔥 " Note : Kids still wearing his sneakers going into the new 2020's decade. Nuff said ........

[@boejar]

I get what you're saying but they aren't wearing his shoes because of him. I promise you that.

[@georgioskarampampas480]

@@boejar Actually we are

[@boejar]

@@georgioskarampampas480 I work with kids and ask them why. They don't tell me because of Jordan. It's the hype. They could care less that he wore them. They just care about the status part of it. Maybe a small small percentage such as yourself wears it because of him but the rest are all about trying to be cool.

[@beehive141]

Micheal team was built except for Rodman he never called anybody like those other guys !!

[@bighorse215]

Your delusional if you think players didn't recruit all the way back to the 60s, super teams are nothing new. 70s Lakers and Celtics were super teams

[@cuttycochise5598]

@@bighorse215 you lost ya mind or under 30 to believe this.. back then they were loyal to teams or was waived... 2 ) those players on Celtics and Lakers were draft pics or claimed off waivers!!! Problem nowadays is GMs can't see talent if it hot them in the face!!! Jerry West is the same person who drafted Kobe, Magic, Worthy, Scott, signed Shaq off free agency, drafted Elden Campbell, Cooper and now pulled a deal to get The Klaw and PG!!!! Kerry West can spot talent... Mitch Kupchik CAN'T!!!!

[@bighorse215]

@@cuttycochise5598 look up Kareem's career he was recruited to the lakers, yeah teams had the end call but nobody wanted somebody that didn't want to be there. That's why Toronto was looked at crazy last year. Y'all can believe that MJ bs just like the flu game was really the flu game.

[@cuttycochise5598]

@@bighorse215 you're young aren't you? Did you know during the nba finals Gary Payton played with a torn calf muscle. My point bring.. players then were MEN.... nowadays these players won't play even if they had a sprained ANKLE... I'm done..

[@fresh3137]

@@bighorse215 real

[@JBsBBQ]

“Just stop!! You’re embarrassing yourself” 😂😂😂

[@tolo2741]

Warrors has 3-4 players can get a max contract at any team. Bulls has 1. Warriors big 4 are all at their prime. MJ, Pipen, Rodmen are all OVER 30. (The last Bulls champion season, they are 34, 31, 36 years old respectively)

[@x2ceyez]

To Lo doesnt matter. Pippen is a top 25 player of all time, Rodman was a top 3 rebounder and top 10 defender, Kerr hit clutch shots, Grant was an All Star. He had plenty of help

[@jca4343]

Grant was an allstar 1 time and that was in 94. The last of the first 3 bulls championships. Basically the bulls had jordan, pippen and a bunch of role players. They just all knew where they belonged. Lebron can't win with a least 2 other all stars, and he still cries that he needs more help

[@712criminal]

Annnddd.... They drafted every player besides KD..

[@6sols988]

To Lo Draymond green ain't getting no max contract😂😂😂

[@DUB_87]

Ball4Life-If Millsap is getting 30 million dollars a year than a walking Triple-Double like Draymond would definitely get a max contract.

[@josedejesus765]

Please!!! The only super team Jordan was ever on was the 92 Dream Team!!!

[@thamir21]

Jose Dejesus No. Pippen, Jordan, and Grant were all all-stars.

[@benboga1928]

@@thamir21 Grant made to all-star only once in his career, and that was when MJ was playing baseball.

[@thamir21]

@@benboga1928 That doesn't change that he was an all-star. Grant was also an all-defensive player for many years. And if that happened with Westbrook or Lebron instead of MJ, people would try to blame them for holding Grant back.

[@jamalsisco1777]

Jose Dejesus facts

[@benboga1928]

@@thamir21 again, horace grant was an all-star when MJ was no longer playing for Bulls, so your superteam argument is invalid. and btw westbrook had Ibaka, a 3x all defensive 1st team.

[@8urvett]

Grant and Pippen were drafted by the Bulls. Rodman came to the Bulls cause there was no team that wanted to deal with his behavior.

[@Jsimm100]

Cassidy Sundance Exactly. People seem to forget that. Anything to discredit Jordan legacy.

[@jacksonrob08]

Cassidy Sundance if that was true then why would they trade for him?It was because they needed him.Without Rodman,the bulls would not have won.

[@8urvett]

jacksonrob08 Rodman was a free agent. People forget he was a problem in the NBA. He lead the league in Technical fouls and always got suspended for his bad behavior with the Spurs.

[@jacksonrob08]

Cassidy Sundance but still without Rodman there would be no rings and someone on the Bulls realized that.

[@MrShehateme12288]

shout out WORM!! for you young head's that's dennis rodman's nick name. guy would have 20+ boards, could pass, be an excellent glue guy, and shut down the other teams, best player,every single night! Worm was raw as shit..

[@y2k024]

He had me laughing@ "stop it you embarrassing yourself " 😂😂😂

[@manuelshaul727]

a superteam would be Jordan and bird and magic on the same team Jordan knows what he talking about. rodman was a role player for defensive purpose he couldn't shoot clown. if you put bird and Jordan on the same team that's two known superstar who ran they teams.

[@osaretinorobor3766]

Manuel Shaul Rodman is a hall of fame ,with Rodman the bulls became a supper team

[@kensei580]

Manuel Shaul fax

[@wiltbanks2292]

Yonis Ali jordan only been to 6 finals winning them all. How did he lose 8 finals? Lmfao.

[@boyzaya15]

Still better than the Cavs

[@jonamonajan3907]

give me five! exactly!

[@la-do-ra-ch6810]

So Rodman passed his prime at age 35-36-37 was a superteam? That wasn't the Pistons Rodman. He wasn't even close to an MVP like Durant joining the Warriors.

[@hotnews3366]

Achilles MJ Rodman was still leading the league in rebounds during his Chicago years

[@LectricVonThunder]

Achilles MJ also, he tied the record for rebounds in a finals series twice in 96 and was very much a factor that won that series as Jordan was held to historically bad numbers by Seattle.

[@tredolla8692]

I beg to differ, although rodman didn't put many points up, he was a monster in the boards creating several second chance shots for mj. He also was a def beast, getting in players head and just disrupting their play all together

[@DrSopenkus]

MJ was not in any superteam. Dennis Rodman was a rebounder, not a scorer. Toni Kukoc was not an All Star either was Rodman. They had a really good team and their players played their role.

[@a1_shaine326]

Jaime Rivera how can you be in the hall of fame but not be a star in the nba please tell me 🤔🤔

[@connorsmith6517]

Jaime Rivera tell me how you win 6 championships in 8 years but you aren't a super team....

[@jacksonrob08]

Jaime Rivera the Larry Bird Celtics had 6 all stars and Maxwell was a finals Mvp.Do they count or is Bird a p (**st in your opinion?

[@jacksonrob08]

Jaime Rivera and Dennis Rodman was winning Defensive Player of the year and rings with the pistons.You must really be a Jordan can for real.

[@brethem50c49]

Mr. Big Dick drazen petrovich is an all star.... How many HOFs has LBJ played with??

[@jonathangroves3580]

Max K is wrong ; MJ was not on a super team...a super team would have been Magic, Barkley and MJ

[@lonyaewest]

Jonathan Terrell Groves damn right or getting Malone and Shawn Kemp to come join him 💯💯💯🤣🤣🤣

[@tomanderson7229]

That's what I'm saying. Every main guy on LeBron's super teams were franchise player. Rodman was a defensive specialist, that's it. One of the best role players but I'd rather have another franchise player any day. So while the other team is resting their franchise player you have 2 that are fresh.

[@MVSkrazywhytboi]

Tom Anderson you stupid

[@kenstar3692]

Mike Jordan had how many NBA top 50 players on the same team? MJ had players who dominated their positions. I would take Pippen and Grant over Wade and Bosh. I'll take them over Kyrie and Love. Jordan couldn't win without a super team. Neither could Magic, or Bird

[@marcusaureliusantoninusaug2161]

Or MJ, Pippen, Hakeem or Shaq.

[@2414kels]

"we listened to you just stop it you're embarrassing yourself" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@HP-tj4kl]

Did I hear that correctly? Horace Grant a Star?......that's just blasphemous Max

[@terrencegarth9746]

H P. No he said allstar player

[@kslim504]

A super team would have been if Jordan and Pippin would have recruited Barkley in his prime.

[@mikeyo3675]

Or Isaiah Thomas it would've been nasty

[@doc8013]

No, a super team was MJ and Pippen and Grant and Rodman and Kerr and TK. He was on a fucking super team half of his career.

[@Kemet3.0]

Wrong... the second 3 peat was a Super Team. Rodman, Jordan, Pippen, and Harper who was one of the top starting guards at that time. And, Rodman was the leading rebounder in the NBA.

[@j.t.thomas890]

@@doc8013 half of his career? Won 3 titles with Harper and Rodman than retired. So he played 3 years out of what 18?

[@athletesuniversity819]

1991 -92 NBA MVP finalists were 1. Michael Jordan 2. Clyde Drexler 3. David Robinson 4. Karl Malone 5. Patrick Ewing Scottie Pippen was 9th. Now imagine if Jordan after defeating the Portland Trailblazers acquired the likes of the number 2 MVP finalist Clyde Drexler the following year? That is the definition of a Superteam. Miami Heat and the Warriors did just that. Bulls were a hell of a team and the best player in the world in MJ.

[@alialmahroos5736]

Stephen A is the type of guy to take an opposing side of the argument even if he doesn’t agree with it for attention.

[@shinsukecorbin425]

Ali AlMahroos But he wasn’t wrong in this case

[@guntryboip295]

Facts

[@zescapegoat]

and you're the type of person who doesnt have a clue bout facts when u hear it. Also, i've seen Stephen A agreeing to alot of ppl, so where's ur evidence?

[@alialmahroos5736]

zescapegoat I didn’t say Max was right , but it’s clear to see that these “debates” are forced as hell.

[@augustsaliento599]

@@alialmahroos5736 its all a ruse to protect the Jordan brand. If michael wasnt qorth billions he wouldnt be hyped the way he is. Its ashame lot of other great players who accomplished way more or was far superior phtsically dont get the same love.

[@brettboaz9051]

I’m in North Carolina and I’m sad hearing about how we will never have a super team that can compete for a championship :(

[@jld_2goated_70]

me to

[@ezduzit2521]

Golden State has 2 of the 3 most recent League MVPs. 4 Starting All Star players. Nuff said

[@zanzibaribarguenvargas8879]

3 of those 4 All Stars were DRAFTED by the GSW, ENOUGH SAID. (Oh and none of them were lottery picks).

[@tmillz331]

steph curry was a lottery pick fool

[@dannyboy9537]

Evan Samdahl Nearly 5 with zazas bitch ass

[@ulisesflores1363]

You cant nag and cry that golden state has 4 all stars starting , they drafted 3 of them. Be mad that your team management dont know how to recognize talent and draft good players. Im a Laker Fan and lakers have drafted pure bums including lonzo

[@barebasics]

Drafting players who show potential and then becoming a great team is not the same as building a super team. Curry’s scout reports said he’d be nothing more than an Average player in the nba because of his height and lack of athleticism...

[@runnerelite8555]

Those bulls were not super teams they had their liabilities with their greatness unlike gsw

[@jca4343]

Those bulls teams worked hard and played their asses off. They played great defense to cover up any offensive liabilities.

[@specialk5027]

Mike just mad cuz ain't nobody trying to come play in Charlotte. He wouldn't be saying that if everybody wanted to go to Charlotte.

[@dreww47]

Kumaras P lol so true

[@Wis_Dom]

Seeing how I am a 40 year old NBA fan, I Have a right to comment on this. First of all, PIPPEN WAS DRAFTED! AND WAS A QUITTER AT FIRST (migraine bullshit)! He became a superstar PLAYING WITH JORDAN! HE WAS NOT A SUPERSTAR BEFORE JORDAN! Big difference!!!! Get that through your heads people.

[@Ricky-ki6yj]

Doesnt matter if hes drafted or not he still a superstar, you not about to say he developed like that because of mj right??

[@zReNAgAdE504]

Yonis Ali of fucking course dey could are you fucking insane??

[@CryptoNews2]

what did Kyrie win before LeBron came back? except more lottery picks.

[@LuckyLuciano_1]

ppl have a hard time to understand a team is form and get to be a great team or a super team (Bulls on MJ era) , a team been formed with all stars to me is a super team ,is what Lebron did and others start to follow the idea , MJ he got in a team where they grow and turn to be one of the most Success team in NBA , why is so hard to understand

[@theman9048]

Lucky Luciano so like Golden State

[@adanruiz2583]

Theman but they added KD

[@willd.8040]

Look at the Warriors roster and how many of their stars were drafted. Until Durant, they went to two Finals in a row, won 73 games, and drafted all of their star players.

[@lemz.stackz3775]

AR 47 but they won the 1st championship without kd

[@adanruiz2583]

AA Baller it’s a fucking super team tho

[@kurtangle1244]

Max Kellerman is disqualified for his ridiculous statement saying that Mike always had a super teams smh! 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@TaybeenTrill248]

kurtangle1244 how many all nba players he played with from 91-98

[@Mikejacobs23]

Daniel Hill Trey Newawlins the greatest perimeter defender of all time (Scottie). Grant (first team all defense) with Phil Jackson. That’s a fucking superteam. Then you add Rodman. Who was top 10 in MVP voting in 1996. Gtfo Jordan had the most help. Who were any other wings better than Scottie pippen??? Then you add Jordan on top of that. With Phil Jackson. AND FOR 10 years that core together. Imagine if LeBron and Anthony Davis played for 10 years in their prime. With Greg pop as head coach. For 10 years. Jesus 6-8 rings no question.

[@Mikejacobs23]

Devante Carter I know he’s played with players totaling in 11 all nba defensive first teams.

[@TaybeenTrill248]

Zac Rubal how many of them were franchise players

[@Mikejacobs23]

Devante Carter defense wins championships. Coaching. Coaching helps. Idk if anybody realizes that. The greatest coach. And they had at all time 3 players on all defensive teams. Then you have 2 of the best wings in the league on the same team. And a perfect system. Play defense. And let Jordan and Scottie score. Pretty simple.

[@dbanks128]

agreed with stepen A. here. MJ, Pippen, and Rodman don't equal the kind of super teams that are being assembled these days. the Bulls drafted pip and kukoc. they went out and got rodman. no one else on those teams were even remotely dominant players. Harper was great in cleveland, but never was the same after his knee injury. the best players in the league back then wanted to beat each other. drexler was in the end of his career with houston. today's best players are teaming up at the peak of their careers. MJ is right

[@jld_2goated_70]

same thing with mj happened with the warriors they drafted great players then picked up aa great player. mike had dennis warriors got kd

[@naujitking2868]

Jahya Dooley did you just compare KD to Rodman wow, I’m done with you new mfs... Durant will clearly go down as one of the top players of all time.

[@jaccbolton]

@@jld_2goated_70 so this means you would take rodman over kd right?

[@BA-gd1ub]

Being from Chicago and seeing those actual games from the late 80s into their last season in 98, I'm 100% with Steven A! Michael put in the work 7yrs before ever winning a ring, and during that period from 91-93 the word super team doesn't exist in that category. And fact that the Bulls made it to the playoffs passed the first round without Jordan said a lot. It was the chemistry not a super team.

[@moonboi69420]

Agreed. People need to understand this.

[@darnelldavis3733]

There a differences, when Mike retired after there 3rd championship, he left that bulls team in a good place. His first 7 years in the league he was the bulls team period

[@JohnOnlySpeaks]

the chemistry lol yea ok wining 72 games isnt a superteam

[@Pooky999]

@@JohnOnlySpeakshe was talkin about the bulls from 91-93 the bulls got the 72 wins in 96

[@dbanks128]

stop, mike was never on a super team. A great 3 and a specialized 4 doesn't make a super team. the rest of those players never did much of anything in the league. scottie played great while mike was playing baseball, but was riding on the momentum mj created. the bulls were a super team because of mike, don't kid yourselves. 5 all-stars starting for the warriors? good for them, but that's called stacking your team, and they'd still have a hard time beating MJ's Bulls.. MJ scored 63 in the playoffs against Bird's celtics while they were still great, and mike had zero help. he's a killer, that's all there is to it.

[@corneilmadison9436]

Say it again, I applaud what Steph did last night, but if it was the 80s ain't no way he'd be getting a third chip, however he might, because Pistons banged Jordan up so much that he went in the gym toned up and got hella better, Don't get me wrong he was already dangerous but stronger and mad dangerous

[@smmsmiley2125]

Danny Banks Horace grants playoff numbers are identical to Chris Bosh and in-fact was a more efficient scorer and better rebounder. And a better defender. Literally the stats and all nab team selections support it. So if Miami was a super team, so was Chicago.

[@jld_2goated_70]

they had okc as a superteam and it seems pretty similar to mj teams two all stars and another great player

[@jld_2goated_70]

@@smmsmiley2125 facts

[@anthonywatts7696]

Danny Banks but that’s the same can be said about all super teams without the main star there a good team but not super star

[@danielllll521]

It doesn't matter if Jordan is an owner or if he played on a superteam, he's right. The NBAs biggest problem is how top heavy it is.

[@Jsimm100]

MrQ000000 Exactly.

[@gabrielcarrasco8414]

It's even worse now, because it was somewhat of a 3 to 4 team race with the Warriors, Spurs, and Cavs. The Warriors go out and get KD and now the scales are tipped entirely in their favor. To where no one else can compete.

[@KaiserzRul3]

You're right, but when someone like SAS tries to claim that Max is wrong it becomes annoying

[@terrancephillips1825]

I agree. Look at MLB of NCAAB playoffs. They pull so much viewership because of the uncertainty and the "anything can happen" idea. The NBA is far too predictable and top-heavy that most people just truly don't care about playoff games because they know what will happen. Everyone and their cousin knew it was gonna be the Cavs vs Warriors last year and it just makes for boring playoffs.

[@Noirlore]

MrQ000000 he's wrong. He said the rockets and the thunder are garbage. Not even close

[@jph794]

I still think that the second three-peat was not a super team. Rodman was a great rebounder and defensive player, but he was onlylimited to that by the time he has in Chicago. On the other hand Horace Grant was not as good as Rodman defensively, still great though, but had pretty awesome offensive skills to compensate. So it seems that the change from Grant to Rodman had the same dividends. They weren’t a super team, but are considered that way because the work ethic of one guy, which elevated the other guys. The difference between the 1994-1995 Jordan to the 1995-1996 Jordan was amazing!!! He worked very hard to get back in shape, whilst doing a movie, and pummeled the competition with the rest of the Bulls. Not a super team, just a great leader inspiring others to greater heights.

[@dannylopez3170]

MJ would have never gone to the Lakers or Celtics to get a ring, he wanted to beat the best so your argument is invalid lol

[@jonathanmack6285]

Danny Lopez Didn’t need to, he had an amazing team along with the greatest coach of all time

[@ricklozano50]

@@jonathanmack6285 Phil Jackson is not the greatest coach of all time

[@dwayneturner9395]

@@ricklozano50 is he not one of the top 3? I mean 11 chips? A ton of talent, granted, but "the triangle" his staff came up with changed up the Bulls whole system, for the better, needless to say...

[@leoh6742]

@@jonathanmack6285 He had an amazing team??? He was drafted by the team with the second worst record in the NBA! And it took them 7 years to form and develop a good enough team to win!

[@ricklozano50]

@@dwayneturner9395 red Auerbach 11 titles in 13 years

[@sexmachine5515]

thank u Steven A smith from cutting off max!!

[@benjaminjeanes998]

Every player being good makes a great team. A super team is making a team of the best players in league.

[@alwynmalan1]

For me there will always be a difference between a guy remaining loyal to one team and building the team into a superteam...nothing wrong with that. That compared to buddy-ing up with other superstars and all going to one team to form a superteam

[@christianbrinez6391]

Why does this guy look like Eddie from That’s so Raven

[@chaunceyjr9856]

Christian Brinez face ass 😭😭😭😭😭

[@KrytpoSurfer]

I agree with Stephen A Smith, key word - DEVELOP. Most teams do no not want to put in the time to let their athletes evolve, do their job, and let the coaches COACH!

[@angelrestoiii9030]

I have to agree with Stephen A Smith on his comment. But when you look at the Chicago 2nd 3peat, Yeah they had MJ, Pippen, and Rodman. Lets not forget that the 80's Lakers had their 3 of Magic, Jabbar, and James Worthy. 80's Celtics had Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, and Dennis Johnson. 80's Pistons had Isaih Thomas, Joe Dumars, and Bill Lambieer and by the way Dennis Rodman was developing role player turning into a superstar. My point is this if you look at the championship teams in the NBA all of them had their big three with supporting players to be a contender. Years down the road are we going to say the Toronto Raptors of 2019 was a super team??? LMBO!!!😂😂😂. I just have to agree with Stephen A on this one.

[@patjackson8040]

I believe the difference with the 80's teams were that those players were mostly drafted to those teams or traded to those teams. Free agency started in the early 90's.

[@bxbully2]

Rodman didn't score when Mike got him , Grant was a defensive player who made a couple role play buckets jordan only had pippen 🤷🏾‍♂️all them people y'all named are regular role players

[@RyanMrTsunamiBishop]

Big facts! 💯💪🏾

[@tjhogg8448]

THANK YOU!!!

[@wittyexquisite]

Big Big Facts

[@TheRedemptionRain]

william manket Bulls are a super team Rodman still counts as a star

[@buckeyefan3894]

The reason that Jordan’s comments were stupid and weak is because he’s an owner, not because of his bulls teams. An owner shouldn’t be crying about stuff like this. He’s butt Burt that his team sucks and everybody else gets good players

[@Flacco79]

Grant, Kerr, Kukoc, bj Armstrong were not Allstars.... They were Role players, Rodman was a Role Player... Mj got Pippen as a Rookie, Pippen game grew for him to become an Allstar Player.... Stop it! Bulls did not grab Barkley or Hakeem, Jordan was the team

[@joshmiller4337]

Exactly Rodman was already 35 when he signed. It's not like the bulls signed another mvp.

[@benyang2427]

Dennis Rodman was a fearless defender/rebounder but not a superstar. That 2nd 3 peat team of MJ's was damn good but not a superteam

[@swish1onu]

Kellerman is a moron... creating super teams is one thing... home growing a team is another. The Bulls had to develop their team.. they didn't go outright and BUY STARS.

[@09shelby15]

Rodmen was beating on the bulls long before he joined them

[@metallicafan416]

@@swish1onu there is a salary cap, nobody can buy teams stupid

[@xsqatterx]

@@swish1onu ? Sure the bulls didnt "buy stars" but I bet MJ wanted them lol oh but god for bid if lebron wants to play with his best friend lol like wtf? What's the difference between mj growing the team & lebron playing with his best friend, yall literally haters 🤣😂😂 & that wasnt a superteam at all lol Bosh? Are you kidding me? 😂 yea did he shoot good sometimes & play defense, yes, did he get boards? Yes, the important board, yes. That's cause HE'S TALL!! lmao theres nothing special about that? 😂 if it was LeBron, Kawhi & A.D, that's a superteam, why? A.D is WAYYYYY better then Bosh lol if it was LeBron, Dwade or A.D or Kawhi, superteam lol but Bosh? 😂 even dwade was hurt 90% of the time so please lol that's a great team if anything, not a superteam

[@rarebreed6420]

The 90s were full of teams with 2 or 3 all stars built they weren't created like these teams are with all the ship jumping. Teams wanted to beat the competition not join them

[@missjerseyz2008]

Ron Harper was Star in the Nba. He led Cleveland every year in scoring. Jordan, Pip, Rodman, Harper, Kukoc. Harper was so good, when Phil went to La he had Harper in tow.

[@creolecajun9988]

None of those were All Stars

[@missjerseyz2008]

@@creolecajun9988 none of who were allstars? Jordan ? Pip? Rodman? they are HOF's.

[@stringfalafel7692]

Stephen a looking like an angry kid that didnt get his apple sauce when Max talking 😂

[@ONETAKEBKLYN]

Max kelerman stick to boxing..Stephen a is spot on....

[@jessepetite24]

Stephen A you full of shit about Horace Grant. Stephen A must have forgot how Horace Grant bust the Bulls ass in 95 and went to the finals. Jordan was on super teams because he kept getting his ass busted by the Celtics and Pistons

[@jj47k.]

@@jessepetite24 Horace grant was not a superstar wtf cant yall understand about that...good players and superstars are 2 different things

[@vincecozzi2545]

Stephen A is DEAD ON CORRECT!!! THAT WASN'T A SUPERTEAM!!!!!!

[@Pink50sbluesinnit]

No max is right Jordan played on superteams in the 90s that’s why he went 6-0

[@rcole718]

The Bulls were never a superteam. That first threepeat team was homegrown. The second threepeat wasn't even a superteam. Rodman was a huge step down offensively from Horace, and he had a specific role, which was to play D and get boards. That was his role for his career. It's not like Mike went out and tried to get Chuck, or Mailman, or Ewing, or even Shaq to help him dominate the league. The Warriors weren't even a superteam until Durant bitched up and joined them.

[@grindn10101]

Ryan Cole GSW drafted everyone but Durant. Why so mad? Bulls got the best rebounder in the league at the time avg 17 boards per an Mike talks about a super team. He was the best ever that played with an all-star superstar forward with the best coach. Stop crying. An this is coming from a bulls fan.

[@rcole718]

grindn10101 Your argument is stupid. Who was there first, Jordan or Phil? Was Phil the best coach when he started coaching the Bulls or did that discussion come up years later? And Rodman never made an all-star team after the Pistons? No. Scottie was with the Bulls from day one. The fuck are you talking about?

[@grindn10101]

An for the record im 35 so I know exactly what went on for all of Mike championship years. I'm just saying if u look at the talent in the league at the time the bulls would have to be considered a super team the year they got Rodman. Do people not remember Tony Kucos was the best player for international waters at that time an Ron Harper was the best on ball defender besides pippen an Mike in the entire world at that time. Where am I wrong

[@SteveosSoccerOdyssey]

But you know what grindn10101 probably anyone could've had Rodman and given up more that WILL PERDUE to get him back then. He couldn't help that Spurs team get a ring? And they had the best record in the league the year before they traded him. He was a headache and the Bulls & MJ & Pip & Phil utilized his rebounding to become great.......I wouldn't call someone with ZERO offense being added to a team a superteam on paper. Especially by today's standards of how they're being built.

[@0-Elias-0]

Dear ESPN, Please burn the tapes. Max Kellermen just wet the bed and embarrassed his lone constituent. Thank you, Max's Embarrassed Constituent

[@Unregulatedlogic]

😂 everytime they start talking about Jordan you know an argument is brewing 😂😂😂

[@KevinK0326]

MJ, your resume includes drafting guys like Kwame Brown, Adam Morrison, Frank Kamisky and other bums I can't remember

[@dom3221]

kk Frank Kaminsky isn't a bum and he has also drafted Kemba Walker, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and possibly the best scorer in the last draft Malik Monk

[@stretch273]

kk Kidd ghilcrist however you spell that bust name😂😂😂

[@ohmyassoff1087]

he also said biyombo could be the next Hakeem

[@reemoe9374]

Sean May😂😂😂

[@gabrieledward7784]

He also drafted that trash ass nigga emeka okafor didn't he ? And btw MKG trash

[@LloydAlmighty]

Damn he really said 28 was trash ? I thought it was fake 😭😭😭

[@doughall6730]

Horace Grant was a very good role player, but not a 'star' as SAS puts it. He would get you a double-double and help the team, but to me, a 'star' leads a team. Horace Grant never led a team, but he was very helpful in his role.

[@subzerofromny735]

Doug Hall what about when he made the allstar team?

[@doughall6730]

He made the all-star team...one time. Don't get me wrong, Horace Grant was important to the Bulls' first 3-peat and made the all-star team with Orlando. BUT, like I said, a guy like Horace Grant never led his team but played his role very well, which was to give you a double-double. When I think of 'star', I think of someone who leads the team and potential MVP candidate.

[@kitsomerset5346]

He literally only made the all-star team because everyone was a Bulls fan in the '90s and Jordan had retired so they voted him and B.J Armstrong in...stop it

[@bignardo95]

I'll ask the ultimate question. "Why haven't nba players been clawing over each other to go play for a Michael Jordan owned team? Has anyone really wanted to notice this?

[@gentium3210]

I've wondered the same. I do know however, it is a network of billionaire owners making decisions

[@PadiriCoffeeCompany]

They know he's a trash owner.

[@KeojiMaru]

The thing about the Warriors they weren't BOUGHT they were BUILT. They only added KD to fill in the final piece of the puzzle.

[@MrSeanMDolan]

MJ was in the second most stacked regular season team of all time. You were in a super team.

[@rainsmith4460]

Yep. The Bulls were a 55 win team that took a loaded Knicks to game 7 without Jordan, Ron Harper and Dennis Rodman.

[@rainsmith4460]

Kukoc and Ron Harper were scorers.

[@sgame82]

I can name like 5 teams playing today who are more stacked than any of the Jordan teams. 2 all stars and a bunch of ok role players does not make a super team.

[@noora3973]

Still arguing about MJ 20 years later smh

[@Ravenlife-dm7hy]

Bulls were not a super team. Super team means at least three superstars who could all score at will. Dennis Rodman was only defense and rebounding.

[@jadensity847]

And who told u that was the definition of superteam

[@Ravenlife-dm7hy]

jo no every team labeled as a “super team” by the sports media......lol. Is that a good enough answer sir?

[@jadensity847]

@@Ravenlife-dm7hy if so the 73-9 warriors and the 72-10 bulls are not super teams according to your dumb "definition"

[@ianmoore577]

mj has a great point, what about the small market teams, the final four are always the same here recently so untill the superteams break apart, the smaller younger teams stand no chance

[@raywilliams926]

He went to the Commissioner and begged for A.I's dribble to be banned!

[@lilken21]

Cried to the commissioner to not bring the double team back also. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ShogunX11]

Bs on both 🤣

[@8hype]

Actually it was John Stockton was the one who went to the commissioner not Jordan get it right.

[@frederickbrown4385]

Shit the warriors got 2 league MVPS on their team and a Defensive Player of the year and a 3pt contest champion lol , Jordan bulls only had 1 MVP and that’s him .... pippen was a all star caliber player , Rodman was a great role player that could get into opponents heads and could rebound good

[@bladebeast6700]

a 3pt contest champion?! really? so marco bellnelli has to be the shit right? And pippen could have won an MVP if he wasn't on a team with Jordan his whole career. Steph, nor KD probably would have got one if they were always together. And lastly, they went 72-10 you can't tell me they have the second most wins of all time and in the same breath say Miami is a superteam and the bulls are not?! "they are only good bc of Jordan" no Miami was only good because of LeBron. Bulls without Jordan were one game away from the finals. Miami without LeBron didn't make the playoffs. Someone please explain how the bulls aren't a superteam.

[@vengkong8344]

bladebeast6700 The Bulls won three championships with "All" drafted players, it took LeBron and the Heat forming a team with three all stars to win one. You see the difference?

[@bladebeast6700]

Gnev Gnok so they did make a super team after those 3 right? Why does it matter when you made it? The point is he added a superstar too, and eventually made a super team. See the problem with lebron was he was too good at the beginning. Jordan could get good picks and get good players bc his team was only alright. By 22 lebron was dragging a d- league team to the finals. Now unless lebron started losing on purpose or got a Pop as a coach like Jordan had a Phil Jackson, how the hell was he supposed to ever win anything with his shitty team? It’s not his fault he was put in a bad situation and Jordan was put in the perfect one?

[@vengkong8344]

bladebeast6700 Grant and Armstrong don't even compare to Allen and Bosh. What high picks did the Bulls get? Last I checked it's not like the Cavs were finishing with one of the best records in the East early in LeBrons career. They were middle of the pack or lower, which was no different than Jordan early on. By the way when you make a superteam does matter. LeBron was 25 and Bosh 24 when they went to join a 28 year old Wade. Were they not in their primes? Rodman was 35 when he went to Chicago and the Bulls were the only team to give him a chance.

[@mrboss20ten]

The warriors literally drafted all their all stars except kd

[@emack4371]

I was a Bulls fan since MJ joined them in 84' the Bulls was not a Super Team they just had Super man and Pippen and role players...Rodman was an amazing rebounder and defender

[@edgarr2815]

Those Bulls teams weren't super teams lol

[@gigitryhard5804]

Do you guys realise sometimes they need to disagree to get views cause if they agreed all the time it would be boring

[@mjf8897]

funny how things change - at the time - it was "Mj and a bunch of Scrubs" not that they weren't happy about Pippen - but if you looked at the WHOLE TEAM - they were under-par for the NBA at the time - carried by Jordan They ALWAYS had a luke-warm center - and nobody thought Rodman made a team "Super" when he was on the Spurs - they had Robinson and Elliot and Rodman and Anderson - Del Negro - Person - Reid - now THAT is a super team - from today's perspective.

[@11PIANOBOY]

Mj F and Luc Longley wasn't exactly a world-beater at the 5. Both 3 peats were MJ, Scottie, and a bunch of role players (yes Rodman and Kukoc were just role players)

[@sansundertale7319]

Mj F you echo my own thoughts man, well said!

[@kinglos4037]

Joshua Chapman rodman was not just a role player

[@kinglos4037]

howsittastes role players don't make the hall of fame dummy and they damn sure don't make the nba's 50th anniversary team

[@detariusknox9832]

Mj F both Pippen and Grant both were drafted by the bulls and had to develop to who they became so SAS is right the bulls wasn't a Superteam until they got rodman.

[@jns5319]

This is why Max is not on the show no more. When he said lebum was the best point guard of the league, I was done with him.

[@TrashBinsChannel]

Max acting like he's a know it all guy. And failed miserably.

[@zerofox3075]

Max is dead right.. Jordan needs to build a team.. don’t cry about it

[@flyguy3203]

Dumbest thing I've read on here .. what team did he built thru free agency? ?? Which superstar came to play? Was it the dream ? Barkley? Magic ? Bird ? Stop being stupid bulls was no super team

[@Titancarreon]

This player on jordans team have to develop to be a championship team. MJ didnt like join Iasiah thomas back on piston and win championships. MJ dint join NY knicks or Houston to win chips. He carried his team, taught scottie how to be a superstar. MJ is the GOAT i agree with MJ this era, lebron era is weak in mentality.

[@atomasino93]

Titan Carreon and Lebron still lost with his super teams how many times

[@adamrenfrow6306]

Well said

[@TCsInspiredVlogs]

@@atomasino93 3 or 4 times

[@dame3323]

andrew t once...lol

[@VanillaGorilla4200]

Funny you say Jordan has to teach him when he didnt win one til pippen joined the team. Pipen was the reason jordan got 6. Pipen was underrated and did all the dirty work. And then added rodman just helped jordan more cuz all he had to do was score..rebound n defense was taken care of.

[@athletesuniversity819]

1991 -92 NBA MVP finalists were 1. Michael Jordan 2. Clyde Drexler 3. David Robinson 4. Karl Malone 5. Patrick Ewing Scottie Pippen was 9th. Now imagine if Jordan after defeating the Portland Trailblazers acquired the likes of the number 2 MVP finalist Clyde Drexler the following year? That is the definition of a Superteam. Miami Heat and the Warriors did just that. Bulls were a hell of a team and the best player in the world in MJ.

[@hulkdaddy71]

LMAO!!! I understand exactly what you mean , Bro, but they wouldn't have gone for #2, since they both played the same position. But it would be like acquired #3 and # 4.

[@mrsain19]

Horace grant was an all star and an NBA semi-star. So....I kind of agree with both.

[@karlinwilliamson9329]

I like Max, but this round goes to Stephen A. by far on this argument. Horace Grant is top 25,000 at least though lol

[@quentinmckenney3598]

Max , easily won this round. SaS is just like everyone else, both Miami and Chicago were superteams because of lebron and Jordan. Chicago was a much better all around team than Miami and that's a fact. Horace Grant was a really good player . He was a great defensive player and a very efficient offensive player. Grant was so good he was better than Bosh or love and that's not debatable. Grant avg 15ppg and 11rpg and made 2nd all NBA defense 93-94 also shooting 52.5%. Imagine that being your 3rd best player .

[@gentium3210]

1991 and 1998 teams had one all-star on the Bulls. Where is this superteam?

[@petervoorhees9505]

Lol had to come back one time for this 😂😂😂Stephen a is comical and animated 💀

[@manniefresh2022]

Man the bulls were so good when jordan left they still made the conference finals lol

[@drewfilson6795]

You're misinformed. They lost in the Second round.

[@GO-wb1gf]

Matthew McCrary they left and went 55-27. LeBron leaves and Cavs go 19-63 lol

[@jamesharvey818]

Obviously you were not born yet if you thought the bulls made it to the conference finals with out Jordan. It was actually the pacers and the Knicks

[@polishsausage4655]

Yeah that's because they had Pete Myers to carry them!!!

[@drewfilson6795]

The Bulls went 55-27 without Jordan, but they also added two shooters in Kukoc and Kerr after MJ retired. So, although the Bulls lost Jordan, their bench got considerably better than it had been during the Bulls first Three-peat. As a rookie, Kukoc made the All-NBA Second Team coming off the bench, and Kerr had statistically his best overall season in 93/94. With Kerr and Kukoc helping to spread the floor, Pippen and Grant shot a higher FG% than they did the previous season when the Bulls won the Championship.

[@theworldsgonemad_]

This stuff has turned into a soap opera. They're clearly reading from a script.

[@lukekylestanley4072]

super teams created when almost every player is already a franchise players on their previous team join together on one team is bad for the league. Now, if a superteam develops from players that nobody predicted ever would be franchise players and they just stay on the same team and grow together then THAT is how the NBA is supposed to go. Basic point is, it makes it so only 2 or 3 teams are worth watching bc you know the others have no chance of winning a ring. I blame lazy owners like the HAWKS (and many others) for never investing in a championship team; which due to them not doing this makes FRANCHISE players who actually want to win not consider teams that won't invest in themselves. if i have to define franchise player (since some think Rodman was) then it typically follows a player constituting all of this: 1st round draft pick, gets paid the most on their team, team has declared him their superstar, is in the top 15 of the NBA in two or more statistics, olympian, first team offense or defense, can change a game around by himself, is easily without doubt perceived as one of the top 15 or maybe 20 players in the league during the majority of years they play.

[@joelembiid2429]

So if stephen curry,james harden,giannis , draymond green, and hassan whiteside all join the same team they are not a superteam?

[@lukekylestanley4072]

correct. My point is when players become franchise players and join to do this NOT when players are developing into franchise players AND aren't considered franchise players yet come together. Giannis, Draymond and Hassan are not considered without a doubt throughout their careers guys who by themselves are who the entire team bases winning on. They however do have qualities that are leadership qualities and make them All-Stars, needless to say. Steph Curry and James Harden developed into the players they are (as your statement shows how in depth you are and how you obviously are aware of development players) and at this point in their career (and the past 4years)clearly qualify as Franchise players. So, with developed players evolving and teams trading to put those players together then I have no problem. But, when those players say to each other I'm not going to play hard for this team bc they have no chance of winning (which many have done and some players to their credit manage not to do and continue playing very hard even though they don't want to play with their current team) and demand and/or recruit other players to go play for another team that they all want to go to in order to play together THEN and THERE is where the problem is.

[@lukekylestanley4072]

Why don't we just have a league where all the players sign on a sheet where and who they want to play with and the players who don't get their names listed the most are kicked out the league because nobody wants to play with them or have them on their team?

Lukekyle Stanley 2me A SUPERTEAM is wen @ least 4 play'r can drop 20-30 a game & 2me dat only GSW

[@TheATHLETE420]

when was there ever parody in the nba? go back and look at every championship, the same teams won the championship over and over again.

[@dball5243]

Max is delusional. Grant even said his roll on the Bulls was to play defense and rebound. His quote was "put on my hard hat and go to work. He was never a star in the NBA. He was a very good roll player everywhere he went. And I love him, bu the way. One of my favorite Bulls.

[@dmac4278]

The Bulls were not a super team they drafted and developed Jordan Pippen and Grant surrounded them with solid role players and won 3 rings. They then came back and won more championships adding Rodman who's only jobs were rebound and defend they had big name players but they were not a dream team. Hell the showtime Lakers as good as they were would not be considered a super team they were built from the bottom up, that is the difference. The Lebron heat and Lakers are guys all saying hey let's get together be unbeatable and win a championship you're great I'm great let's all be great on the same team and we will roll over everyone its bush league and its weak and for players as great great as Lebron and KD it's sad and its weakens the legacy of what could have been

[@lilmike1237]

D Mac they was the only team other then the pistons in there prime Barkley was by himself giving the bulls a series

[@kendrickgabriel2858]

The 96 bulls where a Superteam tho

[@johmarydia2357]

Jordan = Goat = 666 6 Finals appearance 6 Rings 6 Finals MVP

[@Dswagg2011]

johmar ydia bill Russell is the real goat 11 rings and played 13 seasons

[@michaelwhite9046]

666 i knew he was the devil

[@rv7131]

You might be on to something. Kids sell their souls for his shoes all the time. Basically a sacrifice when they kill for them

[@johmarydia2357]

Baphomet !

[@craigsmith6357]

Deep

[@leroyglam3920]

Max is right. Horace was a two-way star in his role. Plus 50 % FG, double digit points, around 10 rebounds per, a key part of the bulls defense. And: Horace kept the Bull's locker room together, taking the edge off Jordan's bull shit. If Draymond's a star for the Dubs, Horace was a star for the Bulls. Facts! Stop kissing MJ's ass SAS and respect Horace!

[@lawrencemcdonald9212]

Leigh Arlington then why isn't Horace a hall of famer

[@kalealennis3515]

Lawrence McDonald the same way penny isn't in their

[@TheJumpman319]

Kaleal Ennis false, penny was on a hall of fame path, Horace was not. Grant isn’t a star. He was a good player who made 1 all star game the year Michael didn’t play. You know who else made 1 all star? Jamal mcglore. Would you consider him a Star? Exactly

[@kalealennis3515]

TheJumpman319 I said the same reason.And horace was a allstar the same reason why y'all say kevin love is a allstar

[@brethem50c49]

Kaleal Ennis kyle korver was an all star... Is he a star? Is he going to the HOF Same as B.J. Armstrong...

[@alfashion]

Stephen A. Is correct. To develop a team into a super team is different than bring in players that are already super stars to join a team comprised of one or more super stars.

[@DJQuan718]

"This takes so much nerve by Michael Jordan"-Max lmao 😂😂😂 The Bulls weren't a superteam lol Max is just talking to talk lol

[@Bob-lh4ir]

DJQuan718 yeah it was. The bulls won almost the same amount of games when MJ left and made it to 2nd round. Then they added MJ. Dawg that was a super team no team was better than them in that era

[@j.t.thomas890]

U can argue that when Rodman came and thet got Harper that there were a super team but not the first 3 . Rodman was already 34-35 years old when he came though and Harper came over in his 12th season an averaged 6 points but he's a really smart defensive player. Those 2 players were passed their prime

[@DJQuan718]

@@Bob-lh4ir They only won 55 games cause the role players knew their roles. The system was designed to whoever left the team the team would still be successful. Plus at the time everyone was saying The Bulls can't win without MJ so they played every game like it was a game 7. They felt like they had to prove themselves

[@j.t.thomas890]

@Brixaa yes sir he did and was still good defensively .

[@MARZOSIRUS]

Steven A. is right the 2nd 3peat was a super team. MJ, Scotty and Rodman all 1st team all league defense. MJ and Scotty 1st team offense. Rodman league leader in rebounds. Scotty and MJ among the league leaders in steals.

[@johnniejames9799]

The only person to score over 20PPG was SCOTTIE PIPPEN. KUKOC averaged 15PPG. No one else averaged in double figures. What SUPER TEAM? SMH MAX is ludicrous!!

[@adamfeliciano6321]

The scores we so low so those numbers actually mean a lot more. Smh how are you not taking a whole nother era into consideration

[@000lowkey]

Johnnie James Scottie was not a 20ppg guy.

[@manuelvillalta3793]

Superteam formed in Boston. Miami forms super team. Golden State forms ultimate super team. League sucks now. 90s basketball was the shit. 1 or 2 stars per competitve team.

[@keithglass4891]

The 90s basketball was the best basketball. How was it shit? There were more stars. They were spread out to almost every team in the league while now more than half the teams dont have a star. Instead today you can pencil in who is making the playoffs. What's great about the same teams which 90 perfect of the best players being in the final 4 every year?

[@joeymungoi9290]

@@keithglass4891 You need to read his comment again my man, he was praising the 90s.

[@keithglass4891]

@@joeymungoi9290 and so he was, missed the "the" my bad.

[@cool_hand_rich4073]

At least somebody knows that Boston created the first super team and not LeBron in Miami

[@blkshuzlive8456]

@@keithglass4891 people fail to realize that the more spread out the stars are....the more watered down the teams are...

[@CaptinOD]

Steven A took a long time to agree with Max’s point 😂🤣😂

[@vwatkins848]

It ain't no such thing a super team... it just team basketball... People act like Mj scored 80 or 90 points a game... He didn't do it by himself... It ain't no such thing one player scoring or even playing defense by themselves... so stop all this stupid crap...

[@rogercobbs4297]

Max was lost

[@napoleonleeiii6255]

yea....how could he say PAUL GOSSAL HALL OF FAME .......not even close ......

[@5starathlete804]

Napoleon Lee III Oh he is not?

[@naymiley9782]

As always he doesn't know anything about basketball!!!! He's a boxing analyst

[@LazyGrilling52]

But to stephen a’s point about scottie having to develop, couldn’t the same be said about golden state? Before kd none of them were high picks in the draft they had to work & develop in the same team. It’s not like the team automatically had 3 all stars, they were garbage that had to become all stars. Not a golden state fan btw but i d have to give them credit

[@donteajones2638]

Eternalsleep good point and Mj had a super team his first and second 3 peat he wouldn't be complaining about it

[@uchihasasuke3973]

Eternalsleep. Well, nobody was criticizing the warriors previous the KD acquisition. And kd is their best player also.

[@Fr33domtv]

Eternalsleep golden state wouldn't have one another if they didn't have Durant

[@selfmadetrillin2548]

Kevin Freedomstar that's a load of crap 😂 they'd still win in 5

[@jacksonrob08]

Self Made Trilliń 2⃣ well then why didnt they win the previous year if it would have been in 5.Green just missed one game.

[@123Mathzak]

So is the criteria for super teams that they need to be through free agency? That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard