Mamba Or The King: Who’s Better? | First Take | May 23, 2017

[@Amazing78775]

People forget that Kobe played with a broken finger in the 2010 finals. The man was a beast.

[@sypherd.3771]

David Kramsky had a bone spur in his ankle that series too. He had to leave the game a couple times and get injections

[@taylorsye]

Bron played 2018 finals with broken or smth hand and almost averaged triple double, Kobe was a different kind of beast tho

[@AyooBudd]

Taylors LeBron Faked That Injury 😭

[@erikmerced6329]

@@AA-ji2my what about Shaq and Penny Hardaway in Orlando? They didn't win, but when Kobe emerged as Kobe when Shaq was on the Lakers, Shaq and Kobe 3-peated? In 2011, Bron choked averaging 2 points in the 4th quarter. Kobe quit on his team in one playoff game and shot them out the finals in 2003 and whatever, but he kept getting better and better with no excuses. Kobe>LeBron

[@cia6520]

@ThreeCreators kobe no disrespect just facts is top _6 all time My top 5 list is : Mj Brown Kareem Magic/bird Duncan

[@benjisea]

Bird said if he wanted to play to have fun, he chose Lebron. If he wanted to win, Kobe.

[@ampmri2434]

No one listening to Tweety bird, exactly why Cleveland put the Pacers out of the playoffs. Having fun and winning are not mutually exclusive.

[@ampmri2434]

@@pip388 That's what you call lighting a fire.

[@mrhussain9008]

Bird and Lebron were similar players and played in the same position, Just Lebron is more physically gifted and a better defender and Bird was a better shooter. Bird doesn't need another point forward on his team.

[@carterbilbro4615]

Mr Pepe statistically incorrect lol

[@ampmri2434]

@78mfleet Yeah sure and when did Bird's Pacers beat any team Lebron was on? I'll wait. The mf was a great player, esp. shooter but he ain't no god. Whatever he says will be critiqued like everyone else.

[@Big3DREAMER]

i still say "Kobe" when i throw something away so....

[@AlexRodriguez-jt3wo]

Abu Dhakal ok and then? Lol

[@kimhslucas]

Alex 4thewin then brink it since we are not as good as kobe

[@kenan-b]

everybody still say kobe bruh it's never gonna fade

[@edoboii9861]

yup, and when I missed, I say "nope, lebron!"

[@jtors5]

Abu Dhakal I still say "I've seen that before" when I see this comment. Please stop copying others for meaningless "likes." Find real validation for yourself.

[@lowvariance]

Don't forget in the Olympics when the US was in a close game versus Spain, who did everyone pass the ball to? Kobe Bryant. Who bailed them out and clutched the win? Kobe Bryant.

[@bryanhang2359]

WoosahGzUp SnitchKForCloutBoyReem I Ur an idiot

[@Ok-li5og]

Chris Gilligan how is he an idiot? Ur just mad Lebron is better

[@Joker-gn4jh]

Ok its pretty obvious tf, we are talking about basketball, not NBA. Who tf separates basketball from the NBA?? Only you lesexuals would

[@Ok-li5og]

Ps4_star ops How did we separate basketball from the nba

[@Joker-gn4jh]

Ok that guy said “in the NBA lebron is better”, im sayin how basketball is basketball.

[@darylcollins2972]

In my opinion LeBron is a better in game player (involving teammates, rebounding, etc) but kobe is the more skilled one on one player. Kobe had a better post game, better footwork, better ball handler, etc

[@deeppatel7496]

if the way you decide who is better is through how they make their team play, then that would mean players like harden, curry, chris paul, steve nash would be the goats, which is stupid, to decide who is the better basketball player you have to critique on who is the better 1v1 player and thats kobe

[@mosesmessiah9098]

@@deeppatel7496 lol not facts

[@blake1267]

4thEspada one on one does not qualify someone for being a better player. I think Lebron is better than Kobe. But there is no way Lebron is beating Kobe one on one. It’s a team game for a reason.

[@ampmri2434]

daryl collins Good points.

[@steverayis6927]

@@deeppatel7496 LOOK AT THE ONE ON ONE MATCHUPS... LEBRON BETTER THAT KOBE... SORRRY!

[@JMS1089]

The fourth quarter is the most misunderstood part of the game. it's different than all the other quarters because the clock runs down so you have to think in terms of how many possessions ahead you are. A 2pt field goal and than a quick transition 3pt can put you ahead by two possessions. heres a really super simple, uncomplicated example. you are behind by 1 pt. you make a 2pt field goal and now you are ahead by 1 point. The opponent either misses or a turnover is forced and you get the ball back. You hit a quick 3 pt and now you are up by 4 pts. The opponent needs a minimum of two possessions to tie or get ahead. that's why you absolutely have to hit your 3pts down the stretch. fg% does NOT win you games. big plays (a crucial 3pt or a forced turnover) that puts you ahead in possessions are what win games. This is where kobe excels the most. because you shoot much more 2pt field goals than 3pt shots, you can technically go 0-3 on 3pts in the fourth and STILL BE be 50% on fg. This is why lebron can have a bad fourth quarter and still look good on the boxscore. If you took the time to read this, please give it a like. I hope it gets a lot of views. I'm hella tired of people disrespecting kobe.

[@kish.mp3]

Lebron: 3 postseason game winning buzzer beaters Kobe: 1 postseason game winning buzzer beater

[@traiwitz2736]

JMS1089 Well guess what, in go ahead baskets with 10 seconds left in the game during the postseason, lebron is 6-14 and kobe is 5-22. Lebron also demolishes kobe in every statistical category. So lebron is much better than kobe

[@angelluis762]

Safwat Khan Well that's just going off postseason. Lebron is 5-47 when attempting a tying or go-ahead shot in the final five seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime. Kobe is 13-48. Now I took this from an espn article in 2016, those numbers could be a little altered possibly from this year, but it illustrates well that Kobe is the better clutch shooter.

[@kish.mp3]

I'm sorry, which is more important? Postseason or regular season?

[@JMS1089]

analytics hasn't caught up yet. metrics should show back to back plays that put you up more than two possessions when the point differential is 1. if you are going on about buzzer beaters you clearly missed the entire point. both you AKsports and Safwat Khan.

[@omarharrison3012]

Two different players 💯 Two different positions💯 Two different mentatlity 💯 Two different careers 💯 Dont compare just thank both of them for giving us greatness PERIOD!!!

[@lkae4]

You're a coward. The entire point of sports is to compare, not thank them for giving us greatness. These soft sports fans nowadays. SMDH.

[@omarharrison3012]

😂😂 why so mad bro ?? is yo feelings hurt BC yo fav player ain't in the discussion 😂 bitch Kobe is the 🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@lkae4]

LeBron isn't my favorite player. But it does disgust me that dudes are so soft nowadays. We're effed if all the kids are like you. Sharia Earth, here we come.

[@omarharrison3012]

K you sound drunk stop it 💯

[@lkae4]

Omar Harrison Soft and a sheep-minded emoji user

[@mindyaguliar9346]

Kobe's my boy.

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

No

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

N

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

N

[@christ4140]

Kobe playing hurt still putting up crazy numbers! Lebron- claiming broken hand after losing to GSW is questionable.

[@Ognkills]

Beetle Bum his numbers where trash sir

[@christophermoffett6689]

ogn px numbers by what about heart and making it happen with nothing. Numbers hell if he the only with the ball all game.

[@donmills7011]

Broken hand or not he still averaged 35 8 9 in that series

[@theofeel2054]

lebron 16-6 against kobe 9 of those wins came before he went to the heat meaning he beat Kobe during Kobe's prime and in the years Kobe went to the finals with pau gasol

[@loveofchristjesusholinessc8584]

Playin hurt and putting up numbers is impressive, yes. However, its dumb. Playing hurt or injured can lead to worse injuring as you saw with kd. And even with his hand broken lebron was putting up the best numbers on the cavs. While also being the point guard of the team.

[@Scott05]

NBA players who played against Kobe and Lebron almost always say Kobe was better. NBA analysts who never even touched a basketball in their life and just read stat sheets say Lebron is better.. Hmmm 🤔

[@andrewliu111]

They say Kobe is tougher and harder to guard, however, not better.

[@tyriddy2190]

Andrew Liu there’s literally videos of nba hall of famers saying Kobe is a better player the hell you talking about?

[@theofeel2054]

lebron 16-6 against kobe 9 of those wins came before he went to the heat meaning he beat Kobe during Kobe's prime and in the years Kobe went to the finals with pau gasol. face to face lebron is better

[@P-van]

@@theofeel2054 face to face as in one on one, you're wrong. kobe's the better one on one player while lebron's better team player

[@theofeel2054]

@@P-van did they ever compete one vs one? no. you are speculating. face to face means match up. but if let's specilate for one vs one, tell me in what category Kobe is better ? maybe just ball handling and acrobatic lay-up

[@wooskionehundred1788]

Prime Kobe was unreal let's be honest.

[@irod642]

Lajohn Jackson Unreal indeed!! You couldn't find a downside to his game, I can't say the same about Bron.

[@mrravimc]

Israel Rodriguez Kobe's lack of efficiency is a down side.

[@kn3z369]

prime LeBron (2012). Now that was a true beast

[@adanujirane9598]

Jur3 Kn3z not even close to prime kobe tho

[@IRONSHEIKBURNERACCOUNT]

Adanu Jirane LeBron right now is better than Kobe ever was lol

[@TheJohnw5902]

It's funny when Stephen A says money time, usually when you're in tight playoffs series in the last 2 minutes Kobe outplayed everyone even with Shaq on the floor

[@tomsocala3158]

Kobe in his prime, '04-07' he was freakin amazing. Past '07 into his mid 30's he was still an awesome player but '04-'07, i dont think anyone can deny how absurdly spectacular he was in those years. In those years i think you can easily put him up there with Jordan. Kobes best was unbelievable.

[@dexxterthatguyy8180]

TOMSoCaLA thank you Kobe didn't have no wade, bosh, Kyrie's, love's on his team during his prime years like lebron had so he had to make due with what he had.

[@Kingkam_77]

If only he could’ve shot 50% from the field once, that’s one problem I have with putting him up there, he wasn’t efficient whatsoever.

[@user-oe4wr9tn2n]

@Redg21 who's fault was that?

[@joshua3149]

@@user-oe4wr9tn2n Who was on the Lakers team during that time that created shots like Kobe Bryant.

[@JPyt11]

Lavar has more points in college than LeBron and Kobe combined

[@ETHIOPIANASSASIN]

The Waffle King lmaooo

[@dunnodunno4620]

The Waffle King bruhh Lebron did not attend college you idiot

[@lavarball3481]

marlyn tolejano dumbass

[@tonyonese]

says u, i mean u actually think lavar is good

[@charliebroussard8505]

Still wishing MJ would play Lavar to shut him up

[@mjlitratista]

KOBE may not be the best team player, but defintely can take all the pressure & responsibility on his shoulder during crunch time which lebron is afraid to!!!

[@billiondollarbull]

You do realize when you play ISO ball, your teammates become cold, and when they have the ball, they won't play as good. These are NBA players not a bunch of HS kid. They can ball. Play as a team, and watch the beauty of basketball. But I digress. LeBron has proven that he can hit those tough shots time and time and again. You're double teamed and Kyle fucking Krover is open in the corner. Do you A, force a low percentage shot, or B, Pass to Kyle Krover? You're dumb if you pick A. There are so many games where Kobe bricks game winners because he's reluctant to pass to the open man. It's funny how fast people have forgot about this. Must be because of new fans popping out of the Internet who never seen Kobe bomb a game and just watched highlights.

[@von1626]

mjlitratista ah are u sure about that because by stats LeBron made more of his clutch shots and shot more clutch shots then kobe

[@fredrikandredahl-andersen2757]

@@billiondollarbull no doubt and I respect your opinion. To be honest I can't really disagree with you , because what you are saying is right. Basketball is a team sport therefore the player who plays for his team should be rewarded (LeBron james). But what I would say about Kobe is that although Kobe is not at the level of a LeBron teamplayerwise, when it comes down to it I rather have Kobe take the last shot. Now don't get me wrong I was born in the 2000s so im not an expert in basketball , but all I'm saying is that Kobe deserves to be compared to LeBron. Like, at least Kobe dares to take the last shot. I'm not saying that ISO ball is the right way to play basketball, because it isn't. But when you're in the NBA finals in game 7 , then who do you want to take the last shot? And also the point of basketball is to win. So in other words, the last minutes of a basketball game is what matter. If you are leading or losing, it doesn't matter. Did you win the game? That's what is important right? And if I want to win a ball game I'm personally picking Kobe and mj. This is of course just my opinion. So it doesn't mean I'm right. I'm only trying to give credit where credit is due. And especially after Kobe died 😢 , I really think that Kobe deserves his props. ☺ but anyways, have a nice day ☺

[@aligreaper1941]

lebron has more playoff buzzer beaters than kobe tho

[@mjlitratista]

@@aligreaper1941 IN YOUR DREAMS?! LEBROM IS MORE ON PASSING THE BALL DURING CRUNCH TIME. AFRAID OF TAKING THE CRUCIAL SHOT!! REAL TALK!!

[@josephcora3466]

And remember Kobe eyed in the West which was significantly stronger than the east

[@SLIM2LOUIE]

So how can they say kobe was never the best player on the team when he led lakers to 2 more championships after shaq left

[@watchafewmoviestakeafewnot1459]

SLIM2LOUIE led me to three but won two

[@watchafewmoviestakeafewnot1459]

Them* lmao

[@lovebirdrica22]

He had a prime gasol who was a beast and a good team and those first two years shaq was better than kobe.

[@sharinngan5084]

RRR so gasol was the best player on the team?

[@abdullahtarawally6670]

he still needed another big man to win in pau Gasol

[@rodneymorgan3170]

Kobe all day..... A known Assassin.... 20 years on One team.... A beast

[@realpistolpete4881]

Rodney Morgan could have said it any better my man

[@realpistolpete4881]

Couldn't I mean

[@dblackzilla]

Points Per Game Lebron 27.15 > Kobe 24.99 Rebounds Per Game Lebron 7.3 > Kobe 5.2 Assists Per Game Lebron 7.1 > Kobe 4.7 Steals Per Game Lebron 1.6 > Kobe 1.4 Blocks Per Game Lebron 0.8 > Kobe 0.5 Field Goal% Lebron 50.3% > Kobe 44.7% 3point% Lebron 34.4% > Kobe 32.9% Free Throw% Kobe 83% > Lebron 74% Lebron avg more Points, Assists, Rebounds, Steals, Blocks higher Field Goal% and 3point% then Kobe Only thing Kobe does better Free Throws Lebron a better all around basketball player then Kobe Mvps Lebron 4 > Kobe 1 Finals Mvps Lebron 3 > Kobe 2 Sidekick Rings Kobe 3 > Lebron 0 Playoff Total Career Stats Kobe 220 Lebron 217 Total Points Lebron 6,163 (1st All Time) Kobe 5,640 Total Rebounds Lebron 1,922 Kobe 1,119 Total Assists Lebron 1,489 Kobe 1,040 Total Steals Lebron 389 Kobe 310 Total Blocks Lebron 209 Kobe 144 Total 3point Shots Made Lebron 331 Kobe 292 Postseason Game Winning Buzzer Beaters Lebron 3 Kobe 1 Finals 40 Point Games Lebron 6 vs west Kobe 1 vs east Finals Mvps Lebron 3 Kobe 2 Lebron better All Around Basketball player in Postseason then Kobe

[@riog8082]

Let’s wait until Lebrons career is finalized so that you can compare Lebrons aging stats to Kobe’s. Taking a small sample & comparing it to a 20 year player which includes declining years is not a true assessment. Kobe is a proven legend & what he has accomplished over his 20 years can not be compared to anyone still playing. When the dust settles I will be the first to compare stats. Also an analysis of playing in the east vs the West.

[@raymondmcmillan9241]

Rio G ..have to agree....the celtics in lebron's tenure in the beginning was the only hardest squad to get by at one time

[@jp3813]

Bird & Magic took championships from each other. Kobe & LeBron never faced off in the playoffs.

[@tonyrome3298]

GNB naw LeBron couldn't get passed Orlando 😂

[@trustthelock3304]

GNB injured?

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

Tony Rome did you see who was Orlando's squad and was on Bron's? Lol

[@slipnorris5882]

They should had met up in 09

[@joshuadoakes5199]

GNB Kobe won back to back the year before where was Lebron Oh going to south beach to form a super team just to choke in the 4th qtr in basically every game

[@MambaBreezy24]

This did not age well. This shows how much my idol Kobe Bryant was disrespected when he was still with us. He will always be a step above LeBron. We miss you, Kobe.

[@lukereyes9589]

MambaBreezy24 Amen. Kobe is the GOAT in my eyes and it hurt me to see my favorite player constantly disrespected

[@MambaBreezy24]

@@lukereyes9589 Same, he has been my idol since I was a kid back in 08. He made me switch from Soccer to Basketball, thats how inspiring he was to me. And to see him get disrespected day in and day out when he was still with us made me really pissed off with the sports media.

[@bachnguyenviet4289]

dude, as much as i love kobe, i love what he has done for the game, but lebron is undoubtedly greater than kobe, because lebron would've done so much better than kobe had he been put in kobe's lakers roster, kobe wouldn't have taken the cavs to the finals like lebron did because of his mamba mentality, don't get me wrong kobe's mentality is a great inspiration to anyone on the court, but it backfires sometimes when he just left out his team and try to take the difficult shot. Don't be bias because he just passed away, see things in two ways

[@bachnguyenviet4289]

@@lukereyes9589 First off, i never replied to you in the first place?? I was talking to the MambaBreezy24 guy so this should explain why i said that lebron is greater because he said that kobe will "always be one step ahead of Lebron" and which is clearly a bias . And second of all my friend, please consider who i was talking to before jumping in

[@peterjoe530]

MambaBreezy24 I love Kobe but having a different opinion doesn’t mean he was disrespected

[@michaellittlejohn4891]

Kobe would never let Jason Terry outplay him🙅

[@michaellittlejohn4891]

Kobe wasn't holding Terry anyway

[@bamlakbekele6494]

@@michaellittlejohn4891 what do u mean he wasn't holding terry, he got SWEPT

[@michaellittlejohn4891]

It's part of the game

[@michaellittlejohn4891]

Terry average 19.3 Kobe average 23 the team just played better

[@michaellittlejohn4891]

LeBron scored 8 points that's bad

[@leonnalee2675]

Kobe is a legend

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

But not better than lethanos

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

O

[@joshuaadjekukor9914]

H

[@HOODKINGZ1]

Kobe over lebron on any given day!!!!

[@timonbubnic322]

yes kid

[@revealingtruth3329]

Jason Garcia No way in hell

[@nikeprince3730]

Yes

[@malone1207]

Bleacher report top 50 NBA best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field Goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored career LeBron 34,241✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3point shots made LeBron 1,875✔️ Kobe 1,827 Steals career LeBron 2,015✔️ Kobe 1,944 Blocks career LeBron 957✔️ Kobe 640 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career high scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs scoring LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Dallas swept Kobe to stop him from having 6 rings ha ha Pippen 6 rings more than Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings means nothing Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings I just ended yo career Kobetard

[@arberberisha5223]

Media=Lebron Nba players=Kobe So Kobe>>>>>>>>>Lebron

[@minajmaknojia9051]

Arbër Berisha but lebron is better at EVERYTHING and carried bad teams to the finals

[@namanloomba2894]

@@minajmaknojia9051 but what happen in the west that dude need help and can only win east That is the truth nigga

[@davidjames6036]

MJ >> LeGOAT >> Shaq >> Kobe

[@minajmaknojia9051]

eid811 Kobe had a better team, lebron had a young team and he’s getting old

[@minajmaknojia9051]

eid811 no Kobe’s team was better and if lebron made it to the playoffs he would have to face the warriors, nuggets, trailblazers, okc, and Kobe blew a 3-1 lead

[@strix50]

Best individual player: Kobe/Jordan Best team player: Lebron/Magic

[@GoatReactz]

well said

[@Jpgoeagles]

basketball is a team sport

[@strix50]

Jpgoeagles They not asking what is the best team.

[@Jpgoeagles]

unselfishness and willingness to trust youre teamates is an attribute.. lebron is better than kobe in every category, plus hes unselfish kobes way behind by this point.. hes closing in on jordan now

[@strix50]

Jpgoeagles No, Lebron is not better than Kobe in every category. You can say his stats are better than Kobe's but there is a lot of factors there and you have to use an eye test.

[@ma-dm9pr]

Kobe is media killer thats why he only won best player one time

[@lord4806]

No he just didnt deserve more

[@Curtis-jo5xi]

Niclas Ränkel nah Nash robbed two mvps from Kobe. Look at the stats.

[@Curtis-jo5xi]

Daniel Harper Most Valuable player tho. That suns team without Nash would beat that lakers team without Kobe. Not saying Nash wasn’t elite but his roll was to create shots and score on certain opportunities, Kobe was there to put the ball in the basket. He was technically the more valuable player. He averaged 35. I don’t think Nash averaged more than 17.

[@cozyfades1587]

The only time pure stats alone impacted MVP is when Russ won it in 17.

[@hristijandimitrovski8664]

@@lord4806 you are dumb. Kobe from 2006 to 2010 every season should be MVP, he had titles, he had great statistics, from 2006 to 2010 he was the best player we've ever seen in basketball

[@supervong1]

Kobe all day. Remember this... The players and fans will always pick Kobe while the media and Sports broadcasters(like these two idiots) will pick Lebron. If we look at everything....skills and career accomplishments. It's clearly Kobe.

[@user-pk4du8ry8w]

This comment hasn’t aged well

[@steverayis6927]

LEBRON ALL DAY FOO.. NUMBERS DONT LIE

[@collinjamesguitar]

That’s what I’m saying! He’s the greatest. Period. Straight Assassin.

[@DonkeyKong5479]

Hector Garcia The only thing LeBron has done since this comment was posted was lose in the Finals and miss the playoffs lmfao I think it aged well

[@zareydastaryan2887]

If I win Kobe if I can't have mj just a killer mentality

[@Flyy4YAH]

Hell I would be a great passer too if I needed my teammates to bail me during crunch time. LeBron is overrated. If he is king, Jordan is a god and Kobe is a Demi-god.

[@jgfurlan_]

This is gold right here.

[@theofeel2054]

maybe.. execept lebron is still the best scorer in the team. stupid. meaning he is doing everything

[@nyomannayaka1082]

Its better to have a specialist excelling in a specific area rather then an all arounder

[@theofeel2054]

@@nyomannayaka1082 well lebron IS the better scorer... how about that? :D

[@berionggorilya6010]

Leflop is a quitter

[@jaybee9406]

Kobe had Shaq...so...Lebron had Wade, Bosh and Ray Allen...now he has another super team for this era in Love, Irving, Deron Williams as a back up pg, Kyle Korver, and great role players... Oh and Kobe played in the more challenging West...Lebron has had a cake walk in the weak East.

[@matthewbrack2794]

Jay Keith Bynum, Odom, fisher... At least Lebron has always been the best on his team

[@matthewbrack2794]

ensayofr Kobe would be 0-7 without Shaq and gasol

[@yato9609]

batthew mrack same goes to lebron without those superstar he has been team up. Lol for you cuz those guys are big men and cant shoot a three and that shaq, free throw is his weakness. Come on men, are you watching basketball? Gasol dont average 20ppg. And they won a 2 championship. It has to be three but that big 4 on the east (Boston) kobe didnt get three peat

[@iamLODD]

If the NBA didnt veto the CP3 trade, we might’ve been calling Kobe the GOAT RN. 2012 Lakers - 28-29 going into all star break = make playoffs (34 year old Kobe) 2019 Lakers - 28-29 going into all star break = miss playoffs, 21-24 with Lebron playing. (34 year old Lebron) MJ IS BETTER THAN BOTH

[@nojumper01]

Kabir Bariana he might have more rings then mj rn

[@quanker2666]

And he won the championship this year

[@iamLODD]

@@quanker2666 in a shortened season who cares

[@quanker2666]

@@iamLODD Maybe not you but many people care

[@quanker2666]

@CrusaderPrince Oh please. You don't know anything. How do you know Kobe trained harder than LeBron? You hide under their beds or what?

[@gmac3335]

LeBron has actually shot a higher percentage in the last 24 seconds and he's played way better in game 7s and elimination games that Kobe to your point Stephen A.

[@jaypeee97]

And less rings so yeah babe them best games 7 while having less rings 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kantenpayne7011]

jaypeee97 More FMVPs though

[@GucciWF]

Kanten Payne him going to the finals that many times 🤦‍♂️ the media is foaming at the mouth to give him anything they can

[@narcolepticbadger]

jaypeee97 yeah he didn’t have prime Shaq

[@GucciWF]

Narcoleptic Badger you right he had wade and bosh- kyrie and love. 😂 bron Stan’s are dumb

[@softwarefoodiee]

5:49 to 6:20 Max kellerman said by far the most correct thing about Kobe's clutch moments.

[@sendongshakur2604]

Prove it

[@ampmri2434]

Kyrie elevated his game.

[@Jaccobtw]

I’ll try to be as unbiased as possible. Argument for LeBron: -LeBron has 3 Finals MVPs to Kobe’s 2 -LeBron has 4 MVPs to Kobe’s 1 - LeBron averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks in the regular season and playoffs - Averages 50% from the field to Kobe’s 45% - LeBron’s PER is significantly higher than Kobe’s Argument against LeBron: - Has 6 Finals Losses - Jumper is questionable - Freethrows too - Has played weaker defense towards the latter end of his career Argument for Kobe: -Has 5 rings to LeBron’s 3 - Has 9 first team all d’s to LeBron’s 5 - shoots a higher % from midrange and from the free throw line Argument against Kobe -LeBron outranks Kobe in the majority of stat categories - Kobe shoots a significantly lower % from the field than LeBron Conclusion: I think LeBron is clearly the better player.

[@YT-cq8wp]

Jaccobtw Defense Matters...n Kobe wasn’t s bad passer or rebounder 🙃 n if not for the injury Kobe suffered this wouldn’t be a discussion because it brought his statistical career average down not to mention his rookie season as well if we focused on more so the prime years u will see clearly that Kobe is a better All Around player plus everyone knows Kobe Bryant wouldn’t lose a one on one match up against lbj 🙃

[@jaypeee97]

Better player with less rings okay yeah 🤣🤣 it's like saying westbrook is better then KD cause he made 3 season triple double 😂😂😂

[@TheRealNeil-kc7si]

jaypeee97 I hope you know it’s not all about rings. More rings doesn’t mean your better 😂

[@ajdaking507]

@@jaypeee97 that argument doesn't work at all. Primarily because you used Russ and KD as an example. KD is far better than Russ at pretty much everything and was successful in OKC despite how bad Russ is. So that's a piss poor example. Lbj is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant and that's a simple fact. We can talk about Kobe Bryant's sheer scoring power, skill and versatility in that department all day long, but it doesn't make up for the fact that LeBron scores more at a much higher shooting clip across the board, except from midrange and freethrows. Kobe has 2 scoring titles and LeBron has 1. Not much of a difference considering that LeBron isn't a natural pure scorer like Kobe is. Defensively, to me, they're dead even. But LeBron is better than Kobe in more aspects of the game than Kobe is better than LeBron at.

[@tmoney2766]

@@jaypeee97 r u saying all these players r better than Jordan, Kobe and lebron cause they have more rings bill Russell 11 Sam Jones 10 John havlicek,Tom heinsohn,kc jones,tom sanders 8 Robert horry,frank Ramsey 7

[@susannabillson2543]

Kobe been face Duncan & Spurs his career. 2 u know how difficult to face the Spurs was??? U gotta go through the Mountains & deadly storms. That's what Kobe when through. Kobe & Duncan splits 5 rings each. LeBron build his own SuperTeam to "Cheat 2 Achieve"...

[@bobjeff6899]

Didn’t LeBron and Duncan also split a ring.

[@Aesklauen]

hahahaha! just says spurs old team schooled bron. without ray allen bron died at that finals.

[@ericksantos4555]

LeBron had to face the Warriors 4 times, 2 of those times with KD. Much more difficult task than beating the Spurs because no one was beating Warriors with KD.

[@reallife8501]

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Total Points Scored Career LeBron 34,459✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3pointers made career LeBron 1897✔️ Kobe 1827 Defensive win shares LeBron 71.12✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings doesnt mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe Bryant in 2011 NBA playoffs to stop him from winning 6 rings LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant in 22 career meetings 😂 Kobe Bryant isn't even top 10 all time player

[@Jaredu24]

Mamba, most skilled player of all time!

[@antpain1156]

and it aint even close

[@br2147]

Mj

[@sidneypc6714]

@@antpain1156 Bleacher report top 50 NBA best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field Goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored career LeBron 34,241✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3point shots made LeBron 1,875✔️ Kobe 1,827 Steals career LeBron 2,015✔️ Kobe 1,944 Blocks career LeBron 957✔️ Kobe 640 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career high scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs scoring LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Dallas swept Kobe to stop him from having 6 rings ha ha Pippen 6 rings more than Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings means nothing Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings I just ended yo career Kobetard

[@antpain1156]

@@sidneypc6714 😂

[@dd-bw1kr]

@@sidneypc6714 ratio

[@rohn024]

Both are at different levels man , respect the greats we got to witness during our time .

[@craigmackssj3680]

i love the comments the ppl know kobe all day yeeeeee

[@jakobdesmit]

Yea that’s 🧢 Lebrons #2 all time, I’m taking #2 over >2

[@zanenegash7819]

fyatic kareem is number 2 all time bron is 3rd and that’s a fact

[@Uptop4300]

Zane Negash I could agree with that but it’s just the laker fans and the people that feel bad for Kobe’s death that think he is better than Bron

[@zanenegash7819]

@@Uptop4300 everybody says kobe aint a top 5 player, and honest to god, peopleare forgetting his greatness

[@zanenegash7819]

@@Uptop4300 whast funny tho is how the analysts say that bron is better but NBA players say kobe is better. hmmm

[@mathewdavis2427]

Kobe was a better player ar his peak. And certainly the player you'd want in a playoff series.

[@josegonzalez-ho7cd]

stop

[@drug8789]

Mathew Davis yes if your on the other team cause hell shoot his out the game 😂

[@joshuaalvarez3469]

Dru G u sound so stupid right now

[@profot3]

Proof?

[@mathewdavis2427]

Lebron James Fuck off Lebrick!

[@christopherdavies6137]

But when you ask players in the league, they all acknowledge how Kobe was just different and better in that intangible way that you just can’t qualify. He’s Dope

[@ChiefCedricJohnson]

Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

[@smol9832]

Dallas swept the lakers in 2011. They never talked about that

[@connorfavero5614]

Where was Lebron in this years finals?

[@MrAVGNdude]

Son of Ethiopia That's was AFTER 3 straight finals trips at ages 28-30. They were old and tired. Lebron was losing to the Celtics and inexperienced magic all those years. The Celtics were older than the lakers ffs. There's no excuse for those losses with Lebron. Plus People tend to forget that game 1 of that mavs series came down to the final shot. So if Kobe's game winner goes down that's a whole different series.

[@djs10261026]

MrAVGNdude LeBron was losing to the Celtics cuz he was the only one on the team! AND ARE YOU KIDDING ME 28-30 IS OLD?! THAT'S THE FUCKING PRIME OF YOUR CAREER AT THOSE AGES... you clearly do not know basketball ... wtf

[@MrAVGNdude]

DanTheMan1026 No it's not. Your prime is your mid 20s. Kobe's prime was from 2002-2008. He just didn't start winning championships until the beginning of the end of his prime. His body slowly broke down after 2011. And stop it man. Kobe was damn near the only guy on the lakers and he was in the finals all those years. And he came out of the west. Both Kobe and Lebron played with one all star back then. Pay Gasol and Mo Williams. You probably don't think Mo did shit but he put up impressive numbers in 2009 plus I think he scored like 50 points in a game before. The only difference between the lakers and cavs back then was Phil Jackson was on one side and Mike brown was on the other. There was no excuse for Lebron to lose in 2009 and 2010. Bruh in 2009 they won 66 games that year and beat tf outta everybody except the lakers (who swept them in the season). They swept thru the first 2 rounds of the playoffs then Lebron just choked in the ECF after game 2. Keep in mind the magic was a lower seed... and then in 2010 the cavs won 61 games, beat up on everybody again (they swept the lakers in the season) and then swept the first round before choking against an aging 4 seed Celtics team. Seriously, they had no business beating Cleveland but somehow they did. Cmon man you can't say Lebron had no help when he lost and then say he's the only factor when they win. Lebron had a decent squad for the east back then. He just couldn't get it done in the playoffs without a big 3.

[@RyanMrTsunamiBishop]

DanTheMan1026 Here come the excuses

[@kitsapa3727]

Lebron : I need Wade, Bosh, Irving and Davies!!! Kobe : Give me Odom and Pau ,it's enough

[@kbyrd7453]

Shaq, malone, gary, dwight, nash, odom🤔🤔🤔

[@AlexB-wn2jx]

@@kbyrd7453 won back to back with gasol and Odom while LeBron won back to back with wade and Bosh huge difference in help

[@fancyhoops1132]

@@AlexB-wn2jx won againts the spurs and okc >>>> celtics and orlando

[@AlexB-wn2jx]

@@fancyhoops1132 ok lol with wade and Bosh vs with Gasol calm down

[@fancyhoops1132]

@@AlexB-wn2jx gasol,odom,fisher,ariza and bynum is better than varejao, mo williams, moby gibson,ilgauzkas and jj hickson lmaooo but lebron force the celtics to a game 7 imagine with pau and odom lebron cpuld beat the celtics too

[@clemsonuniversity7399]

kobe🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rudykadous4005]

No matter how much espn analysts try and push the lebron goat narrative...real nba fans will never put lebron over kobe...never

[@julianblueyes7579]

Don't insult the mamba that way kobi was a killer something Bron will never have is that killer instinct...

[@mylesgaines8743]

I'm taking kobe. like he said kobe in clutch time was deadly. no he wasn't the best team player. but kobe had that MJ hunger starting off his career. plus kobe never had to run to another team full of all stars to win a ring

[@joshuamoran1842]

Myles Gaines lebron was never the 2nd best player

[@mylesgaines8743]

he is in my opinion

[@clivetfly]

Myles Gaines lol your opinion doesn't matter if you just repeat what this video says

[@mylesgaines8743]

and nigga yo opinion don't matter to me period. the beauty of being American.

[@justin0216]

Cuz kobe lost with a team of stars (nash+howard+gasol)

[@LucidoMafia]

LeBron would have no chance against a prime Kobe

[@just2raw4yall]

LucidoMafia lol head to head LeBron smashed Kobe over and over and over again. Even when he was on those bum Cavs teams

[@xaviervega468]

LOL Lebron made a career out of kicking Kobe's ass. 16-6 lifetime against him. 8-5 before he left for Miami.

[@just2raw4yall]

Xavier Vega I know right!? Such a shame people are too lazy to research

[@GoBlueO23]

thats why the players themselves pick kobe over lebron

[@battlecat403]

Literally every big name player that matters always picks Kobe, but yet 15 year olds on the internet and few sports pundits who've never played the game say Lebron 😂

[@frankj9270]

So many nba players pick lebron over anybody other than jordan? You’ve got to be kidding me

[@zanenegash7819]

Edgel Gabriel trae and AD never played prime kobe did they?

[@zanenegash7819]

Edgel Gabriel most of them said kobe was better.

[@zanenegash7819]

Edgel Gabriel if kobe played in the eastern conference, he woulda made the finals 9 times like bron

[@atothek302]

LBJ couldn’t carry Kobe’s jock strap

[@bamlakbekele6494]

just like kobe couldn't carry the lakers after shaq left

[@atothek302]

Bamlak Bekele carried them to three finals and TWO rings!!😂😂😂

[@bamlakbekele6494]

After getting 2 all stars, the greatest coach of all-time, and a 6th man of the year right? Lebron carried to 3 rings and 8 finals sooo

[@manniesupasport7977]

LeBron cake walk thru Weak East. NBA Finals is really the Western Conference Finals. Constructed two separate super teams to win a chip. Traded away future all stars and draft picks for AD. I thought LeBron makes players better

[@manniesupasport7977]

@Bamlak Bekele We’ll see how much I know basketball in the future when Lonzo Ball and/or one or more of those 1st round picks Lakers owes the Pelicans become All Stars like Brandon Ingram

[@TSCOTT-oz5vy]

Kobe no doubt...Black Mamba!!☠

[@brianrichard5539]

L

[@zanenegash7819]

LeGOAT makes Ka Kjj cry everyday W

[@k3NDAWG]

i like how they dont mention how lebron only started winning when all the good teams and players got old

[@bamlakbekele6494]

So golden state wasn't good? San Antonio wasn't good? Stop it

[@kikirolle7091]

Lol TRUE

[@jrlavilla9857]

@@bamlakbekele6494 That's why he lost to them.

[@mxybeyesterdaygrip2568]

Like Jordan huh

[@jaydot4956]

@@jrlavilla9857 he beat both golden state and the Spurs.

[@shomoy7396]

Kobe had loyalty to his team

[@George26445]

I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE THING KOBE IS BETTER THAN LEBRON LEBRON HAS NEVER BEEN A NUMBER 2 OPTION, THATS ALL U NEED TO KNOW. AND HE A BETTER OVERALL PLAYER. EVEN THOUGH KOBE HAVE MORE RINGS THAN LEBRON, LEBRON HAS MORE FINALS MVP.

[@George26445]

@angel paige im not saying hes the goat, what im saying is that kobe isnt better the lebron.

[@quanker2666]

@@George26445 Kobe overrated af. LeBron is overrated too. But to think Kobe is better than Lebron is funny

[@risktaker3810]

@@quanker2666 Bleacher report top 50 NBA best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field Goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored career LeBron 34,241✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3point shots made LeBron 1,875✔️ Kobe 1,827 Steals career LeBron 2,015✔️ Kobe 1,944 Blocks career LeBron 957✔️ Kobe 640 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career high scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs scoring LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Dallas swept Kobe to stop him from having 6 rings ha ha Pippen 6 rings more than Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings means nothing Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings I just ended yo career Kobetard

[@lucianoon8625]

Its all business men and kobe wanted to be traded but became a fraud in a couple years with the lakers

[@vegathevictor]

Bugs me how Max always hates on Kobe rides on LBJ.. typical ny lol

[@Jpgoeagles]

horry is better than them both, 7 RINGS!!!

[@conanfa18]

Max is the president of the Kobe Hater club...seems like he is recruiting Steven A, who is drinking too much LBJ Kool-Ade lately!!!

[@conanfa18]

Jpgoeagles I like where you are going with Big Shot Bob!!! Hope he gets in the Hall of Fame for his contributions to Championship basketball for three different teams and seven rings. No one can match him in that category!

[@conanfa18]

So...you're saying that you are not a Kobe hater? You are right, Kobe will NEVER be what LeBron is --> Weak heart!...Whining all the damn time..."I need another shooter, because I don't really have a jumper."..."Oh, and get me a back up point guard, too."..."Let me rest and goof around on the bench, while NBA fans paid good money to see me play"..."Let me pick my own exact team, or I won't sign." I agree, he'll never by 5 and 2 in the Finals. He'll never be like Kobe!!!!

[@Ez_seventeen]

@nioukos stats stats stats😂😂😂 ig thats how we determine who's the better player nowadays. So that means westbrook better than half these legends he avg a triple double a game like 2 yrs ago😂 stats aren't everything. Lebron is a stat padder just like Westbrook. Lebron an kobe have 2 different styles. Lebron likes to rely on the team. Kobe is more of a 1 on 1 master like jordan but not as good. Even jordan said kobe could probably beat him😂

[@christopheranderson6379]

Kobe come from the era where analytics weren’t what defined the player overall. You can’t judge this comparison based on stats. Basketball is a two-way game, offense and defense. Kobe was undeniably a better defender, a better ball handler, a better shooter, better in the post, mid-range, 3pt, footwork, clutch, etc. Lebron plays on teams that require him to be a passer, you can’t knock Kobe for doing what was required of him for his team.

[@jusanotherdev9712]

4 years late but I'm gonna correct you. At their best, Kobe was not a better defender, shooter or 3pt shooter. He might not even be a better scorer.

[@julionero6380]

@@jusanotherdev9712 kobe was a better 1 on 1 defender, much much better than lebron, lebron is a better team defender, but in kobes prime what was required was to be a great 1 on 1 defender

[@kbak1919]

This just false, he is not a better 3 pt shooter at all. lebron was 40% 3pt shooter in his prime, he was not a better defender in their prime either. lebron was more of a team defender and was twice the runner up for dpoy. Lebron is also a better post player, he is way better in the clutch especially in the playoffs(just look at the stats), kobe is like 3-13(23%) in the last 5 seconds of a playoff game, while lebron is 8-16(50). And all this is kinda pointless, kyrie is a better 3pt shooter, shooter, ballhandler than kobe. Does that mean Kyrie is a better player than Kobe? no ofc not. what matters is overall impact on the floor and production and Lebron is just way more impactful than kobe.

[@julionero6380]

@@kbak1919 please tell me the year where lebron was 40% from the 3… i am waiting for that

[@dressmyself]

@@kbak1919 you using analytics and not the eye test. You gotta add context, that’s the part y’all analytics junkies usually overlook.

[@diondrems]

Lebron also needed a big 3 to actually win...

[@marwannakouzi5274]

diondrems Wade only Bosh didnt do shit

[@MrGlizzock]

diondrems what superstar ever won a title without another star?

[@drug8789]

diondrems big 3? bosh averaged like 10points in the playofgs 😴

[@arkishianorman]

Devon Starks you said another star not stars meaning everyone needs their robin kobe had Shaq and gasol Jordan had pippen but LeBron created super teams to win just like the warriors went created a super team as well it's kind of boring to watch. LeBron would never be better because of that to me. he also played in a weaker conference if he played in the West he wouldn't be able to win

[@michaelusatine1923]

diondrems Kobe needed Shaq and Pau to win his. Guess how many finals he went to without an all star on his team. 0! Lebron made it once in '07. Lebron also beats him in every single individual category. He's better all-around, and might end with as many or more rings than Kobe

[@arleentuli910]

lebron couldnt get a ring by himself KOBE DID!!!!! with no shaq no super team

[@jariusisaac8616]

Aarav . 100 years ago still not a super team

[@ButMARZZ]

@Aarav . 100 years ago yeah even if you look at advanced metrics. Lebron is better player overall. Kobe had amazing moments in the clutch, but in terms of a general stat of fg% in the clutch, which I think is explained as in the last 5 or so minutes in tight games. He shot about average fg%

[@jaleelreliford]

Stop it

[@swaedank1029]

Stop just stop Kobe had really solid players Pau, Ron, Lamar,Andrew,DFish

[@kingjo8731]

pau gasol

[@WilloAkak]

Ridicolous! Prime kobe paired with wade and Bosh doesn't go 2-2 in the finals to spurs or mavs

[@meoww12397]

actually i think Willo Akaka meant MVP finalists and perennial all-stars Wade and Bosh

[@kiriakosdimtsis1016]

eric vander are u crazy? give prime kobe either wade or irving and he wont lose any ring. And i wont say if he had wade and bosh or irving and love cause that would be unfair for every team. He won 2 back to back with pau gasol being the second best player.

[@meoww12397]

Eric Vander wade was 29 in 2011, averaged 25.5 pts, 6.4 rebs, 4.6 asts, 1.5 stls, and 1.1 blks as a guard. 7th in MVP voting. not sure you know the definition of "out of prime" mate.

[@kiriakosdimtsis1016]

when kobe did have a good pg? he always had to make his own shots and never had someone to give him easy shots. you mean if kobe had wade who was an all star and dont you think Bosh is good enough at 6'11? wtf young kyrie ?? he averaged 25ppg in playoffs 2015-2016. kevin love had 17 and 10 averaged. well if kobe needed someone to clean up his bricks then lebron always need someone to make THE SHOTS. kobe beat the super team of celtics almost alone(gasol was very helpful)

[@kiriakosdimtsis1016]

well i compare fischer to kyrie.. kyrie is one of the most skilled players in the league. fischer was nowhere to that. artest was a great defender but he didnt have much role in the offense. so was odom. only thing kobe couldnt do was rebounding and he had great teammates to do that. We have seen that kobe can easily adapt to a game. In game 7 of finals 2010 he had a struggle in offense yet he grabbed 15boards. We have seen him having games with many asists too. so dont tell me he cant rebound or asist but His game is based on scoring thats why he does it the most. If he had good offensive players such as wade or kyrie he would take less shots obviously and give them a chance cause he can trust them. Yes he wants to take shots but sometimes he does it because there is noone else that could do it. well kobe doesnt afraid of great teams. he beat suns(finished 2nd) in 2010 to get to finals which they were a great team and also the spurs in 2008(3rd) when they had manu parker and duncan all 3 of them averaging 19ppg. werent they good enough? orlando was the worst final team yet lebron couldnt beat them? how you explain that when cleveland finished 1st in east. you think that year kobe would lose to that orlando with any team? NO, cause he would take over with his scoring. He didnt have to rebound or asist against that crap team cause ofensively noone could stop him. Lebron has a higher FG% cause he drives all the time, he doesnt shoot. Thats why gasol had better FG% sometimes than kobe. Yet everyone just see stats and say kobe was horrible at offense wich is nonsense. And if Kobe had his ass saved in 1 game lebron had how many?

[@jakesullivan2944]

KOBE WAS THE LAST MAN TO GET THAT MJ TOUCH.

[@reallife8501]

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Total Points Scored Career LeBron 34,459✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3pointers made career LeBron 1897✔️ Kobe 1827 Defensive win shares LeBron 71.12✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings doesnt mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe Bryant in 2011 NBA playoffs to stop him from winning 6 rings LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant in 22 career meetings 😂 Kobe Bryant isn't even top 10 all time player

[@JonJontv23]

@@reallife8501 how is Kobe not a top ten player

[@JonJontv23]

@@reallife8501 plus Kobe was not a sidekick in that three peat with shaq because if you look at the games they had in the playoffs and the finals if it wasn’t for Kobe then the lakers wouldn’t three peat

[@reallife8501]

@@JonJontv23 Ask Bleacher report they have Kobe Bryant #14 Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant

[@reallife8501]

@@JonJontv23 Finals Mvps at 3 rings Jordan 3 LeBron 3 Duncan 3 Shaq 3 Kobe 0 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg an 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Scottie Pippen was for 6 rings

[@touchperception]

I'll take Kobe. dude is a monster when everything is on the line.

[@olveraeric6260]

touchperception yeah cause he shoots even though he's off and off and lebrons also a monster when things are on the line people just seem to forget cause they hate on him so much and they act like Kobe and mj were clutch every single time

[@jebaitoreksdee7590]

He shot 25% on a game 7 in the NBA Finals, yep totally a monster when everything is on the line. LMFAO

[@spazzyspanoodle]

percentages qualitative numbers all that shit go out the window when games on the line. the best thing LeBron has done in my opinion is to realize he's not clutch 8 min and beyond in the 4th quarter it clear he's acknowledged it just look at who the Cavs run plays for in those situations. out of all the games LeBron plays he has maybe a hand ful of walk of made shots and quite a lengthy number of misses but that not really the point every knows its a make or miss league but lets count how many time LeBron shrunk or didn't seem to even want the ball in those moments ima a mavericks fan since way back with j kidd jimmy jack and monster mash. when my mavs won that series I was forever officially off the LeBron wagon no matter what he does going forward itl never erase the look on his face when he looked at a 2-3 zone !

[@iiNeVeRCluTcH]

touchperception clutch shooting percentage is in lebron' s favor.... How do you figure that?

[@iiNeVeRCluTcH]

Spazzy Spanoodles lebron shoots a higher percentage than Kobe when the game is in the line though... IE: last 30 seconds, last minute, last 5 minutes.... all in the Kings favor...

[@tyson4862]

The league was hard when Kobe was playing it is soft now

[@AustinNorton28]

Put lebron on lakers team that Time instead of Kobe and Shaq still would be the best player stop downplaying that shit

[@domino8820]

Yessss so rite

[@ab24donny]

Oh no another Vlog channel put lebron on that team period no and kobe on the cavs see what happens. Kobe wouldnt have make the playoffs

[@onthingthemastermind8980]

Facts!!!!!!

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

AMTV Kobe made the playoffs on the west with smush and kwame I think he’d be alright in the east

[@TheJo0051]

you look at championships as a tie breaker? really?! omg....

[@arod5559]

Who else is tired of this discussion?

[@nycityisme]

Adriel Rodz I'd rather have this then Lavar convos ...

[@mike_datzmag1c21]

Adriel Rodz I'd rather talk this than comparing him to Jordan when it's not close, lebron isn't better than Kobe, Magic or even Kareem

[@koreypaul6698]

Adriel Rodz 🙋🏾‍♂️

[@roman20353]

Mike Evans Ok now you have given your opinion prove why he is better. You obviously don't like Lebron if you think he is not better than Kobe.

[@xrpedro]

Adriel Rodz yo foreal.. shit jumps from LeBron vs Jordan to LeBron vs Kobe then it goes back to LeBron top 3 all time... they keep recycling this shit and it got old... Im a kobe fan btw and im tired of it all hahaha

[@surferxblood]

It's funny how all the commentators that has never played pro ball picks LeBron...but every NBA player picks Kobe. Commentators just trying to do their job by pushing a agenda and promoting LeBron so Basketball can still stay alive.

[@koopalibrary]

I still feel the 2008 olympics shows what was what.

[@michaelmaccrazy]

You mean when Kobe was at his peak and Lebron was like 24?

[@NMG_OnTheTrack]

@@michaelmaccrazy dude bron was in his prime and without kobe he lost every time in the olympics

[@michaelmaccrazy]

@@NMG_OnTheTrack like the time he was 20 years old and was playing 5 minutes a game? 🤡 Kobe deserves better fans than this.

[@tg4768]

Kobe is better than LeBron hands down!!!!! Lebron ain't playing against nobody in the eastern conference period the western conference always been the best conference since 1999 season kobe that too go though wars in that western conference his hole career!!!! Michael Jordan the greatest he ran the 90s like flys on shit and Michael Jordan never let Chicago bulls down in the finals!!!!! Lebron no that the eastern conference is weak lebron ain't doing nothing but losing man lebron is a natural born loser!!!!!! Lebron will never be better than kobe or especially MICHAEL JORDAN THE GOAT THE DICTIONARY OF BASKETBALL THE GREATEST IN NBA HISTORY AND SPORTS HISTORY MICHAEL JORDAN BLACK JESUS MJ!!!!!!!!

[@stephoncromartie5605]

2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoffs buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player than Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0ut Career +30 point games LeBron 432 > Kobe 431 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq all better players than Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 8 all time player

[@PauloSantos-yb4bz]

Stephon Cromartie Lebron missed 11k shots in 15 seasons so what you mean ? Kobe one game Lebron choked in 2007 (4 games) and 2011 (6games) (with Wade and Boch) Blew a 2-1 lead in 2015 2017 KD scored 180 points in his face 🤷🏽‍♂️ So what’s your point ? Like he said he played his all career in The weakest conference. Every goat pick Kobe over Lebron, Kobe > L3-6n

[@TheKingcardo]

Paulo Santos Lol 2007 finals wasn’t a choke, he lost to a team with 3 all stars and he was the only star on his team, in 2015 Kyrie and love were injured he was only star again. Kevin Durant barely outplayed Lebron In 2017 and ontop of that Lebron averaged a triple double the whole playoffs. And in 2018 he averaged a triple double again and also scored 50 points on Kevin Durant head in game 1, east isn’t weak at all, Jordan played in the east too. Lebron been up against the team that Kobe choked to In 2004. Prime Kobe and prime Shaq lost to Chauncey billups In 2004 4-1. Kobe also got swept in the playoffs several times, and failed to make the playoffs 3 times. He couldn’t even make it with Dwight and Nash

[@jaccbolton]

@@TheKingcardo east is weak. Only a few teams he took to the finals would have made it to the 3rd round in the west. And thats being generous. Nobody worried about the 8th, 7th, 6th, or 5th seed in the east.. In the west, the 8th seed still had a chance and one year they got pass the first round. Kobe has played way harder competition than lebron.. FACTS

[@TheKingcardo]

jaccbolton u sound crazy, if u really believe that. The east has always been competitive, Kobe played nowhere near the comp Lebron been up against. Lebron had to get passed the 2008 Celtics(superteam) he had to get passed the 2004-2005 pistons that beat Kobe in he finals. He had to get passed prime iverson, Prime pg13, MVP rose and Defensive player of the year Noah. The 2012 knicks with prime melo,linsanity,Smith,chandler,stoudmire,baron davis. The bulls with Rose/Butler/Gasol/marotic. Also faced them when they had Wade,Rondo,Butler. The east would be better than the west if u take the warriors out.

[@MarioGhost69419]

Im gonna make this simple! For those who think basketball is all about 4th quarters: Kobe For those who know that the 4th quarter isn't everything in basketball: LeBron

[@kianmarcodumangas737]

Literally everyone who thinks kobe is better than lebron are not legit basketball fans... Don't think ur better than professional sports analysts

[@mannycalavera2335]

I say Mamba. No empirical analysis. No long argument. Just based on how I feel/felt about them when watching them play.

[@imhim3711]

Kobe is the reason players are movitavted to play basketball

[@arleentuli910]

lebron needed a super team to win championships KOBE DID NOT!!!! Kobe worked wit wat he had...lebron needed superstar players KOBE didnt...

[@guilhermestringheta2902]

Didnt need superstar players???? He was carried by shaq

[@saadarslan9751]

Arleen Tuli that was so retarded he got his bitchsss carried by shaq stfu

[@dxggrr3752]

guilherme oliveira stringheta right tf that nigga talkin bout

[@jsarge6136]

Dude... Pau was Memphis superstar. Memphis got Marc Gasol and he wasn't no where near what he was in his prime

[@justicehiga7436]

Kobe was a rookie when he played with Shaq, worked his way up to be the alpha male. And if y’all dumb fucks think Kobe was carried by Shaq, than you either didn’t watch every single laker game during that dynasty, or your to young, or ignorant as fuck. Pau Gasol never got out the first round of the playoffs during his 7 years in Memphis. His 7 years in LA, his stats are nearly identical, so tell me how the fuck was he the biggest reason the lakers got better, before the trade, lakers were 3rd seed in the West, 2 games behind the 2nd seed. Fuck out of here with y’all clueless asses

[@IAMBENNYBLANCO.]

We erected a statue of MJ and KB in Wakanda. LBJ has not earned a statue.

[@wonderlandian8465]

Not even a discussion. The fuck is Max on about? "Kobe had Shaq when he won 3 titles" Lebron had a motherfucking full team roster of allstars everytime he won a title. Wade, Allen , Bosh ,Kyrie , Love and even the year when he did have Shaq in the Cavs they didnt do nothing. So Kobe still has 5 titles , Lebron has 3 titles. IF Lebron gets 6 titles then he might be better than Kobe.

[@xaviervega468]

LOL...please. A prime Shaq is worth ANY 2 players Lebron ever played with. Enough that Kobe could be the sidekick for 3 rings.

[@maxjunga8180]

Wonderlandian You say Ray allen was an all star teammate? Go check his stats at that time. He strictly was a shooter and had a very limited game.

[@mohammaddirgatama6995]

Kobe is shaqs sidebitch

[@eugk9388]

Wonderlandian you're really comparing a washed up shaq to a prime dominant shaq? Plz when shaq went to the cavs he was almost 40. If you switched both players on each teams lebron would've won at least 4 chips with shaq. And let's put career accolades into perspective kobe has 5 rings to lebrons 3 which isn't too much of a disparity and lebrons career ain't done yet. 4 mvps to kobes only one. And I hate this, "oh but lebron's a Stat padder." Gtfoh lebron doesn't try his best until the postseason starts. You think he couldn't avg a triple double if he wanted to and westbrook did? Who is 5 inches shorter? And don't act like kobe doesn't shoot his teams out of games. He goes out trying to score 50 all the time without getting his teammates involved.

[@SyrianReviews]

I mean what is the difference between TALENT and SKILL ???

[@Twhistle]

Lr Beerus talent is natural ability. Skill can be developed. For example, natural athleticism is talent, while things like passing, shooting, etc. is skill.

[@janethmariano4248]

For me, Talent is that the things you do great but you dont even know that you are good at it. And skills are the things that you practiced to be good at it

[@franbatista9062]

Talent is your natural abiity to do something without too much effort because is something really natural for you, while skill is something you had developed. For example your natural ability or talent to shoot can be really good but you can developed that talent even more. Talent is something it was born with you while skilled is something you worked your ass for it

[@Hard31337]

Hard work (Skill) beats Talent when Talent fails to work hard.

[@Larph13]

Talent is something you are born with. Skills is something you can learn.

[@e.m2117]

Nobody has any say so on who is better , Lebron or Kobe . If anyone picks that’s Because that’s your personal preference. The only people who have a say so is the nba players who played against Kobe and lebron . Guess what? everyone who has played against them , say Kobe is better. That says everything

[@yazyaz9936]

Gatumadre agreed. Enough said. When you can play in the NBA and play against these guys your opinion becomes much more valid.

[@TheKondinho]

Not really because nobody played against both when both were in their primes. Most played against Kobe in his prime but played a young Lebron, so the comparison isn't equal. So their judgement is skewed.

[@Ichifate]

@@TheKondinho actually many people played aginst them both in their primes so I don't know if I would argue with nba players

[@TheKondinho]

Densetsu no chikara like who?

[@Ichifate]

@@TheKondinho kenyon martin for one who was no lousy player

[@gamersanonomous]

You gotta ask yourself “ do I want to win championships, or do I just want to get to the finals?”

[@lucianoon8625]

Wut stop clowning yourself the only decent team that kobe faced in the nba fjnals was the celtics and they cheated there way in the finals by rigged the kings in game 6 in ecf kobe never faced a dynasty with 4 all stars and great bench players kobes mamba mentality or whT you call that cant carry bunch of role players like how did lebron did in 2006 and 2018 that wont work

[@thatonedumbperson1402]

Do I wanna get carried by Shaq to win 3 easy rings or actually work hard and carry my team to championships? Hmmm… imma have to go with LeBron.

[@tadpoIio]

Did Stephen really just say "lebron was coached" look at all of his coaches, he's the one who coached the coaches

[@bobanderson542]

Yeah right. He got coach after coach fired.

[@ma-dm9pr]

Stats doesnt matter once u playing in west conf

[@zgang3441]

So what about Michael Jordan

[@certifiedbanga874]

The west wasn't strong in kobe's era and LeBron made the east weak because he was always going to the finals and they wanted to have a chance and thats when the west got strong when he got back to Cleveland

[@malone8382]

Bleacher report top 50 NBA best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field Goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored career LeBron 34,241✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3point shots made LeBron 1,875✔️ Kobe 1,827 Steals career LeBron 2,015✔️ Kobe 1,944 Blocks career LeBron 957✔️ Kobe 640 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career high scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs scoring LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Dallas swept Kobe to stop him from having 6 rings ha ha Pippen 6 rings more than Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings means nothing Shaq O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings I just ended yo career Kobetard

[@we-lit6071]

KOBE' HANDS DOWN!!! kobe never left the LAKERS, no matter how BAD it got, LEBRON is a where ever the grass is greenerPLAYER!💯 an lets not mention 5 RINGS!!!

[@aquaticsplashes]

SAY WHAT! irrelevant

[@AjGoatedd]

SAY WHAT! he actually tried the leave the lakers when he was complaining that the team around him wasn't good. and he has 5 rings but only 2 finals mvps. lebron is 3/3 for finals mvps

[@Jry088]

But did he leave? 3 finals mvps but 4 losses in the finals too

[@we-lit6071]

Jerry Huang ...u right!!! plus kobe more dependable down the stretch!!!💯

[@gb500fission5]

SAY WHAT! Didn't Kobe try to leave the Lakers in the mid 2000s??

[@danielbeavers8701]

This should not be a discussion. Kobe is clearly better

[@yenson77]

Kobe won a championship with Derek Fisher,Pau Gasol,Lamar Odom, and Andrew fucking Bynum. LeBron won with HoFer Dwayne Wade,and Borderline HoFer Chris Bosh. Then won with all star and pretty much the x factor of the Cavs Kyrie, and a dominant shooter in K-love. LeBron won all his rings with Super if not borderline super teams

[@yenson77]

the fact of the matter is Kobe had a record of 5-2 and LeBron 3-4(and my prediction for the 2017 finals are I'm favor of the warriors) so possibly a 3-5 finals record for LeBron

[@xaviervega468]

LOL Kobe won 3 of his ring being second fiddle to Shaq. And Pau Gasol is also a future Hall of Famer, His international career ALONE would get him in, much less what he's done in the NBA. This is the a same Pau Gasol that lit the US big men up every single Olympic and World Championship playing for Spain. There is a reason Kobe shit a gold brick when learned about the Pau Gasol trade, he KNEW how good Gasol was, and how good Gasol would complement his game. Kobe couldn't have asked for a better #2.

[@KarloBacolod]

Lebron needed two superstars (Wade,Bosh/Irving,Love) to win a title. Kobe only needed one (Shaq,Gasol). Kobe > Lebum

[@robertsterlingjebediaharch604]

Kmac LA neither bosh nor love were/are superstars

[@KarloBacolod]

Superstar or All-Star whatever you want to call it, Lebron always had two more essential teammates than Kobe which proves my point.

[@workprofessional3092]

all the comments say KOBE it's true cause we remember 5 beats 3 any day of the week and lebron didn't become the best player till kobe was done winning championships in the rougher west

[@AjGoatedd]

Straight Up Comedy Subscribe for more do rings make you the better player ? if so bill russell is the greatest player of all time

[@robertsterlingjebediaharch604]

Straight Up Comedy Subscribe for more 4 beats 1 and 3 beats 2

[@jumpman36912]

Did you for get he got carried by shaq for 3 of those? or are you just another delusional fan?

[@josecastanon3083]

unbiased LEBRON fan You mean he was good enough to won one with just shaq cause Lebron couldnt

[@YungJay216]

unbiased LEBRON fan right just like if you look at the stats when Kobe and Shaq we're together, Shaq wouldn't of won without Kobe . Shaq struggled

[@kookou13]

if lebron was to switch places with kobe he would also be option 2 next to shaq. There was no ever 20-22 year old that could ever be option 1 with a prime shaq.

[@NeverUnderestimate9]

Lebrons not in kobe's world. Most say lebron is a better player but Kobe is a winner, duh, oh well isint being a winner and winning games the purpose of sports. Kobe is a champion and doesn't need excuses when he loses.

[@wakoblank]

Lebron has a better career record...also lebron has more playoff wins...

[@lebron2535]

Kobe never had the pressure that Lebron has. One missed a free throw and everyone calls him the worst player in the NBA finals. Kobe has the most missed game winners yet everyone says "KILLER MENTALITY YADA YADA YADA". Lebron has proved that he is a better player than Kobe in the game of basketball PERIOD.

[@annagoat2953]

You are so wrong😂😂😂 Lebron isn’t as much as a ball hog as Kobe was, look at his assist numbers, scoring and rebounds. They are all higher.

[@kabeperry4702]

No shaq kobe has 2 rings period

[@yato9609]

Kabe Perry no Wade Bosh and Allen no 2 chips at miami, no irving? No championship on cavs. Without those guys, Lebron cant win a chip. Those are All star dude

[@Sunnyhillsfinest]

*The thing is when they make the argument "Kobe had Shaq" is that Kobe was drafted to the Lakers. He was a kid straight out of high school who didn't get many minutes his first and second year. Lebron willingly made his decision to get traded to the Heat with a team who had one superstar and asked another one to join. But all of these arguments are just dumb, we witnessed greatness from Kobe for the past decade and we have witnessed greatness from Bron this decade. Just enjoy it basketball is a team sport, no individual can win a championship by themselfs*

[@Sunnyhillsfinest]

I mean put Kobe on that Heat team and he would've won CHIPS and vice versa with Lebron and the 00/03 Lakers

[@tyestevens2510]

Dre Deda your wrong. melo won at syracuse with a bunch of scrubs dirk had no superstar.

[@tyestevens2510]

peopls can win by them selfs.

[@andrejackson7903]

LeBron wasn't traded to the heat he was a free agent,

[@andrejackson7903]

Deda stop it, LeBron need two all star to win chip, Wade top 15 ever, Bosh 24 and 10 in Toronto,

[@24BIGDYL]

Kobe all day.

[@_1luljayyy]

@Kerry Wooda bro it’s his opinion Like how you copy and pasted off someone else because you have no other argument😂😂

[@_1luljayyy]

@Kerry Wooda I bet you feel sad that your not in the NBA and you tarnish someone else’s legacy Why is it someone talks good about Kobe and you just tarnish his legacy so that can make you look good cause your probably not doing good in the basketball world. It’s his opinion bro what don’t you understand that

[@reallife8501]

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.3%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Total Points Scored Career LeBron 34,459✔️ Kobe 33,643 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron 3pointers made career LeBron 1897✔️ Kobe 1827 Defensive win shares LeBron 71.12✔️ Kobe 50.66 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings doesnt mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick Mavericks 4-0 swept Kobe Bryant in 2011 NBA playoffs to stop him from winning 6 rings LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant in 22 career meetings 😂 Kobe Bryant isn't even top 10 all time player

[@G33wee5h]

These commentators need to understand that Lebron taken the teams to the finals as many times as Kobe and Jordan combined. The games don't always come down to making the clutch shots, in fact, the clutch shots are for those ball hogs who refused to give up the ball to their teammates, because they wanted to be hailed as hero. These are the clutch shots in their career. Jordan went 9/22 .41% and Kobe 97/287 34%, James 90/231 39%. The guy with the lowest percentage of clutch shots actually taken teams to the finals more often than the guys who have better clutch shooting. Jordan who has the highest clutch shooting but failed to lead teams above 500 6 times to Lebron once.

[@BoxingComedian]

Why do we ignore the fact that LeBron has no post game? He doesn't even have a primary scoring move

[@MrNickmcc12345]

Hanma Yujiro no post game? Lol he lives in the post😂😂😂

[@strawhats100]

nick mcconnell not really...He's a hybrid that often times falls in love with the perimeter shot but he'll often times attack from the top of the key..bully ball.

[@Van_ax]

strawhats100 - Lebron > Kobe by every statistic measure

[@tupacmakaveli9261]

strawhats100 yes because he can shoot above 40 percent from outside unlike kobe

[@BoxingComedian]

Anyone can shoot when your team is filled with shooters, no one is stupid enough to think LeBron is a better shooter.

[@DavidOrtiz-nh5ce]

As far as I'm concerned Kobe Bryant is the greatest player after Jordan. Please... Kobe took LBJ down so many times it's not even funny. LeBron even knows Kobe Is better than He is.

[@xaviervega468]

When was this? Kobe is 6-16 lifetime against Lebron.

[@fredrickboseman8062]

Stop putting Kobe there to protect Jordan legacy

[@cojack636]

Exactly

[@collinjamesguitar]

Kobe. Said it 15 years ago and I’m saying it now. For some reason, he doesn’t get the true reverence for his playing that he should. If you flipped Kobe’s era playing with Michaels, you’d be wearing Bryant shoes and eating Kobe Cereal. Rest In Peace, Mamba. GOAT

[@David-lf6rr]

Collin Keemle 15 years ago, lebron was in his first couple years and kobe was a 3 time champ. things change man. kobe was the best player on 2 championship teams, lebron on 3.

[@Ramb0ba]

I miss Kobe 😢

[@GBlackshear1]

HOW IS THIS A QUESTION? BRON BY A LANDSLIDE

[@buskerbusker8826]

When they duel, Lebron always shrank against Kobe.

[@andersoncooper2304]

Busker Busker Lebron vs kobe head to head 15-9

[@andersoncooper2304]

Busker Busker Lebron has 15 wins

[@buskerbusker8826]

Jonathan Francois we talkin bout 1 on 1. Like how Mj couldn't guard Lavar Ball one on 1. Lbj always lookin a bit star studded when guarding or guarded by Kobe even in mamba's final years. Kobe on the other hand embraced challenge, went fadeaway vs fadeaway with Jordan.

[@tupacmakaveli9261]

Busker Busker yeah and bricked his shots resulting in a 43% career fg percantage, so awesome yeeeah

[@buskerbusker8826]

tupac makaveli 3 of 7 in the finals, yey!! A choker on the 4th.. so awesome bruh. Just did it last game against the celtics.

[@lucyaklar6345]

"I don't get 5 championships here without him" - Kobe's comment about Michael Jordan 🐐 in the Last Dance Documentary

[@acason4]

If we’re talking One vs One I’m taking Kobe all day/every day, but Lebron is the better player. Better peak value, better career, better team player because he’s a volume scorer that doesn’t necessarily have to be ball centric, plus he plays 4 positions well!!

[@bobanderson542]

Better team player when LeBron throws his teammates under the bus when he loses and lebron switches team after team. Kobe is way more skilled on offense and defense and better teammate.

[@lucianoon8625]

@@bobanderson542 kobe was a fraud with the lakers when things was tough you hypocrite

[@superexclusive452]

Kobe better, and a better competitor

[@Errordemn6]

People just act like Kobe didn't have a fucking career.

[@andrewwatson8591]

It’s hilarious how biased people are. Kobe has three championships where he wasn’t even the best player on his own team. If Lebron had a title where another player on his team was the finals MVP all the haters would say you can’t even count that title for Lebron. Well 3 of Kobe’s 5 have happened exactly like that, and nobody seems to care.

[@gavinmccullough1844]

It's not about Kobe being the best. We watched him play with Shaq. If Kobe wasn't on the Lakers team Shaq will not have won a ring. We watched Kobe drop 40-50 points with Shaq on the floor