LED STOP Lights TESTED - OSRAM vs PHILIPS - Light output, Temperature management & Endurance tested

[@joaocardeira6074]

Turn signal leds will be interesting to see too

[@FirAnto]

Yeah. I'd like to see how turn signal led fares compared to incandescent bulb.

[@christiann7320]

Yes, and how to install them, because of the less resistance they have.

[@dbwater5154]

@@christiann7320 You need an inline resistor.

[@BoredGeese]

I have them. They are too bright. But you need a separate resistor to remove the error. I have bulb H

[@Velktron]

@@christiann7320 In general you'll need a completely different flasher unit as well. Conventional ones designed for incandescent ones may not work at all or the timing might be wrong. The wiring to the flasher unit might also need to be modified.

[@BengLadislavDanicek]

Finally, another automotive channel without bullcrap showing viewers all the stuff we want without the jank shit around. Big respect for your creations and keep your work up!

[@Milovici1]

Salut Sergiu . Iti multumesc pentru video clip. Lumea este un loc mai bun , doar fiindca exista oameni ca tine. Sarbatori frumoase iti doresc. M-ai ajutat mult cu acest video. Mi-ar placea sa am prieteni ca tine.

[@Davearoooo]

An eastern european version of Project Farm!?

[@IBmotive]

But with more character

[@gmcminitruck]

Another clear example of 'you get what you pay for' It's shocking how much shit is made and sold by companies that just don't care..

[@75L48]

Well its made in china.. so no one really have influence to stop this massive loss of resources to make something which is useless. EU could ban import of these but there are always loop holes how to import anyway. Same as when incandescent bulbs were banned, so merchants started selling them as heaters.. which they are. :D

[@whatfreedom7]

Especially sold on places like Amazon and EBay.

[@Ulven3829]

Another clear example of “why pay more for the same?” It’s shocking how much shit is bought by people that just don’t care.. It people don’t buy it, they won’t make it

[@pbakker]

Happy to see that the Phillips X-treme LED 1157 socket P21/5w were worth the investment (had to import them to Europe because they weren’t available here in 2016 which made them extremely pricey) I immediately recognized these led bulbs have the placement of the leds in the same position as the filament type bulbs. So that helps the light output gained by the reflectors behind the red glass.

[@MrNeutross]

One light that could actually be worth changing out for a led could be the reverse lights. In my car, with led reverse lights, I can actually see what's behind me when reversing in a dark environment. The incandescent one's where mostly just for alerting other drivers I was reversing. With these leds I don't have to install external auxiliary back-up lights.

[@SergiuGabor]

I can actually follow up on this Idea. I have in mind some products that are worth testing. Thanks!

[@MrNeutross]

@@SergiuGabor Perfect! That would be great since when I was shopping around, alot of brands clamed higher light output due to "LED-technology" (wow, so cool!!!!!), but when comparing lumens or if you calculated lumens/ watt for the lamps they end up around the same level as the normal incandescent ones. You really have to make sure you're buying one's with guaranteed higher output.

[@Proximality]

@@SergiuGabor Hm, wonna see how mine and a couple of people I know's reverse light bulbs compare to the rest, would you like a link to the item or a name perhaps? P.S Nice videos, I'm waiting for my Bulb E to arrive soon, feelin not so confident about replacing now.

[@xuancongtech]

After watching your video, i ve just taken t10 5w5 parking light amber Chinese bulbs out of my car. Thank you the test.

[@Martyni1z]

Man I love the way and order in everyone of your videos. Great job!

[@superdad2150]

I love it when he says I thought this bulb would "melt your eyes" and was surprised LOL

[@caporal888]

Excelent, ca întotdeauna. Se vede că îți place ceea ce faci și presupun că o spun în numele tuturor, se vede în comentarii că ne uităm și noi cu plăcere! Sărbători fericite și succes pe mai departe! Get this man a piece of salată de boeuf and julfă :D

[@SergiuGabor]

Îți mulțumesc tare mult pentru apreciere, ție si la toata lumea care apreciază aceste videoclipuri!

[@carmelosierra5946]

Hi, Sergiu & followers: I' ve just met you while searching for some ultra bright, confiable and compact H1 LED bulbs for my old, but perfectly preserved 1998 Seat Ibiza. In the tail lights of this car I installed LED "H" type bulbs for all functions (Stop & tail, fog, reverse, and turn signal lights) around the year 2020, coinciding wiht the publication of this video. They cost about 3 or 4 € each, at Ebay. I must say that the improvement in luminosity has been remarkable in all of them, and therefore also in safety, and today all the bulbs still light correctly. Definitely, one of the best investments that I' ve ever made in my veteran car. Greetings from Santander (Spain) Ciao!!!

[@oby-1607]

Pretty amazing stuff. Thanks to you I won't be going out with my tail (lights) on fire. Getting the Osram or Philips.

[@avtosound11rus4]

Даже с субтитрами смотрел на одном дыхании, классный тест)) - Even with subtitles, I watched in the same breath, cool test))

[@smhorse]

Possibly the best 1157 LED bulb review I've seen yet. Moral of the story: don't ever buy Chinese. Now then, who sells the Osram bulb in the United Kingdom?

[@garyhelms1889]

I'm astonished and haven't seen another video mention heat. I have been under the impression these bulbs run cooler. I opted not to convert the lights in my classic car to LED but I DID convert my instrument panels lights over to LED. Now I'm thinking about taking them back out!! Good video and detailed.

[@gatosgataros2218]

15:07 only philips&osram are bright enough and cold enough . Great video !!! I have the chinese one B its really dim and the difference between break and parking are indistinguishable

[@songpholaungkapipattanacha649]

I have a set of philips (different shape though) for years. Light output and pattern are perfect and instant on is so good.

[@tejaspadhye]

Share model name then please

[@MikeCooperHollis]

I've had the Philips version of the 501's (silver band 4,000k?) in for over 2 years and they e never missed a beat. They replaced cheaper versions that blew faster than a hooker. Will only put Phillips in from now on.

[@jozsefizsak]

That was very timely and informative. I do wonder if an LED will light faster than an incandescent to give more time to brake when the driver ahead slows down. Finally, your English is much better than most North Americans but you made one mistake. It is never correct to say "could saw." It is always could see, or can see, did see. I saw what you did yesterday or I saw that movie is the correct usage of the past tense.

[@SergiuGabor]

Thanks! Yeah.. I noticed this mistake when I was editing the video but it was too late to make any changes.

[@Crimly989]

@@SergiuGabor Don't worry about little things like that, remember it's ok to make mistakes. Thanks for the great content :)

[@eastwood6424]

WOW so far your the Best at rating bulbs etc with humor added! Thank You!!

[@garywilde6171]

Wow, such an incredibly thorough, accurate and immensely useful review. Thanks for taking the time to do this review, it's very much appreciated. I'll be buying the Osram ones as they perform well, and in UK work out nearly half the price of the Philips ones.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

You should also test them in the freezer for us in cold winter climates. Every winter I have at least a few LEDs fail and start flickering/die completely.

[@messiah2534]

How many minus C degrees? Which one bulb do you have?

[@xbenas]

A really informative and professional video, I can't not believe how good it is! Comparison to classic halogen was the perfect inclusion. From my practice these parking/stop LED lights seem to be always inferior to classic halogen, and your video can finally support my suspicions! Beautiful, just beautiful.

[@agostinodibella9939]

I have been using the Philips LED bulbs on both my cars for about three years and like the way they work. One of the bulbs failed but I replaced them under warranty. I was surprised at how hot some of the cheap bulbs get and the brake light didn’t get that much brighter!

[@TWARDOWSKY.]

humorously aloof and technically competently good video.

[@DilipAdhikariInd]

Happy New 2023

[@coskuarsiray]

I have been using philips bulb shown here for 4 years. still no problems with our grand cherokee. great product.

[@2doors303]

Man, you are veery under rated. You deserve waay more viewers and subscriebers

[@can-cruiser]

excellent comprehensive and unbiased testing. Thanks for making the video and sharing..

[@ChyanSie]

I have LED H on my signal bulbs. Pretty good and bright plus no hyperflashing! But seeing your results on parking/braking lights, I'd stick to incandescent.

[@heymanbatman]

me too i have LED H for all of my tail lights. signal, brake and reverse. I might as well change my Break light into stock halogen and leave the signal light and reverse light installed. although my signal light LED H will hyper flash after around 3-5minutes of use

[@otm2002]

you are the best for reviewing products man, hats off to you. Merry Christmas and happy new year!

[@tandaravladutalexandru6167]

Foarte bun video, destul de explicit si cu exemple si demonstratii pentru fiecare led in parte, acum stiu ce sa imi cumpar multumita tie ! 😁👍

[@meltonrobbo]

Yet another great in-depth video. Thanks Sergiu.

[@luciorocha9471]

Parabéns pelo excelente vídeo! O melhor teste de lâmpadas do KZbin!

[@FloWzoW87]

what a great video, exactly what i was looking for, thank you!

[@Le00nn]

Great test, if I could suggest something that would be an additional test of resistance or power consumption, which would tell us if those LED's indicates broken bulb error in your car :)

[@davidmills9668]

Really enjoyed your videos. I bought the Bevinsee H1 bulbs for my full beam after your recommended them and I am genuinely astonished at how bright they are. I already have 55w Xenons for dipped beam and the LEDs are hands down brighter. Can you PLEASE do some interior lights such as C10W? The markets are tough to find good products and videos like this save us so much money! Keep up the good work!

[@SergiuGabor]

Wow, really happy I could help you! So nice to hear this.. Yes, I'm planning on testing more lights in future episodes. Next will be reversing lights. 20 to 25 different bulbs 😃

[@dietrichmuller172]

Subscribed, great content and underrated. Good sense of humour as well. Keep making quality content mate.

[@dancoulson6579]

For me, personally I still prefer the incandescent type of lamp. It's a tried and true technology, that's been perfected for over 100 years. It's not perfect. But it does the job without a fuss.

[@jamesgallagher1992]

Yup..led tail lights are f×××ing blinding

[@tatarinzcev]

Problem with the light output is that lux measures light output in green specter since it’s the specter human are most sensitive to. And when you try to measure light output of monochromatic lights (with clear led chips) which produces exclusively red spectrum you get 0 lux. When you measure full spectrum leds (with orange led cover) which produces light in all spectrum but most of the light in red, you get some lux measurements, since there are some green light coming out thanks to luminophore. When you measure incandescent light it shows the greatest lux measurements because incandescent light actually output light in all specter almost equally, so when you look at it directly it glows almost white (since all colors add up and become white)

[@wiwekoaja]

I think different reflector design giving different result. Thanks for the comparison,, i hope next comparison is turning light regular bulb vs led replacement

[@Emtec797]

Perfect video! please make next video about reversing light thanks :)

[@qc4833]

I watched your video while thinking about the bay15d led lamp to mount on the Thule bike carrier, and it was very informative. thank you very much. I clicked subscribe and like.

[@abdulazeez4540]

Very useful & knowledgeable 👍 From INDIA - Karnataka State

[@deanpl]

Perfect tests 🔥 Thank you!

[@LuisMartinez-ui8go]

Excellen to see numbers in a comparative

[@paulvictor9368]

Merry Christmas to you too and thanks for the great content.

[@BudaDanielIoan]

Super video, bravo! La cat mai multe in continuare, big like!

[@antreaskonstantinou8585]

Bulb H is a really good value. Good light output for parking and almost same brake light as osram and philips. If you have an old truck and you want to do an upgrade, i dont reccomend spending 70 dollars to get philips/osram. Bulb H is good enough for much cheaper.

[@0verspeed]

Un review Excelent. Mai sunt si cele de la Sylvania.

[@toyotabrony]

And sylvania zevo.

[@SnakeBiteCC]

Bun testul ăsta. Felicitări! Am luat de curând o pereche de Osram LED 21/5W. Foarte ok sunt. Sper să țină mult. Totodată am mai luat pentru reverse light o pereche de Vanssi 7506 P21W LED. Contrucția lor pare bună, iar therma manangement-ul e în parametri, cred. Oricum nu funcționează un timp îndelungat,fiind becuri de mers înapoi.

[@markas850]

As you usual good comparison and fair reviews keep it up. Best Wishes for the Holidays. Markas

[@lvdvc]

Sergio, thank you for the very detailed review👍

[@wesleyvelroij4837]

I have installed the Osram LEDriving Taillight's today in my Suzuki Celerio: it's true they aren't that much brighter, but I can already see the difference. Twice as bright as incandescent is already enough, because else it becomes blinding to drivers behind you. The bulbs from Osram actually aren't that expensive: I ordered them from eBay, for € 20 including shipping.

[@nevermxre8363]

I had the exact D type bulb in my tail lights up until couple days ago when of them started flickering, so i replaced them with regular incandescent bulbs. I've been looking for some chinese replacements and randomly got on this video, holy shit was i surprised. I'll spare some money and buy OSRAM's now. Tho the same bulbs but P21w are in my reverse lights, but they seem to be working fine and provide much better visibility at night so i guess i'll keep em.

[@alexpascu1985]

My god, this channel is so underrated..🤣

[@carlosn6829]

Thanks a lot for the Summary.Well Done👍

[@SWATLucifer]

Would be great to compare reverse lights also. Standard vs couple of popular led models. Do we actually gain more light when going reverse. Great comparison btw! Cheers

[@SergiuGabor]

Yeah, I'll prepare that test

[@caporal888]

@@SergiuGabor Am pus și eu LED pe marche-a-rier la Golf 5. Dacă îmi lași o adresă de e-mail îți trimit link-ul de pe aliexpress de unde l-am luat. A fost cam 7$ becul, but boy is it worth it. Pot lăsa și aici link-ul dacă nu este cu supărare, cum doriți.

[@mortofromoz1]

Excellent review, Sergiu. Thank you and Merry Christmas.

[@leoandradelw]

Best video on youtube. I have been searching for a good led bulb to install on a gm cruze brake light... I think i will keep the halogens. Thank you!!

[@stefim1892]

Multumim pt test. Craciun fericit!

[@florinlepadatu5648]

Impecabil ca de obicei! Felicitari!

[@MichalSzul]

Nice video! I haven't a clue that I'd laugh so much watching video about light bulbs ;)

[@ScottishScot]

Great video as always Brother! I’ve been using BulbH for rear turn signal lights for a year now, those bulbs are tried and true IMO They are made by 1797 (T20/7440) I live and drive on the Northern Prairies of Canada though, so overheating an indicator lamp is unlikely here.

[@GMcarsMAN]

Salut Sergiu, I think it would be better if you tested classic bulbs with 13.2 V. If you measure the voltage on the bulb in your car you'll hardly get 14 V I think. With 14 V in the test it might be much too in favor of the incandesent bulbs. Personally I stick to these because of the bulb outage systems that hardly tolerate LEDs and because of the certification. But I understand that many users might want to switch to Osram/Philips LEDs because their performance is really good. Anyways, you're doing a great job, mult,umesc for the test! Merry Christmas from Poland.

[@acetomatocompany]

👍👍👍 great test. I am looking to upgrade an old fire truck light bar, 10 bulbs 1156 incandescent. I’ve heard halogen would have too much amp draw. Looking into LEDs. I have read a suggested Osram SL P21W. Couldn’t find them in the U.S. I’m guessing Osram/Sylvania 7506BSYLLED is in my future, thanks to you.

[@the_0ther_0ne_59]

I have just ordered my retrofit tail LEDs, and I am glad that I ordered the best one, according to this review. My headlights are already upgraded and they work great, having a perfect beam pattern, great light output and no complains from the incoming traffic. Sergiu, you are doing nice reviews. You could only use a better English accent. Maybe you could consult some native English speaker. It would improve your pronunciation a lot and by that your viewers would increase. Maybe you can improve. If not, you are still OK. Otherwise you seem to be a great guy and you are definitely doing a great job with your reviews. I am also Romanian and I know that we are not good at taking criticism. This one is for better, though. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!

[@Deiphobuzz]

Meh, I really like his accent. His pronounciation is perfect, no stuttering or " and uuuhhhhh and this uuhhhh thing".

[@the_0ther_0ne_59]

@@Deiphobuzz I agree with you that he does speak fluently, without any hesitations. This shows that he is well prepared for shooting the videos and probably he could have the text written in advance. This is great again. Lots of strong points that I do appreciate. His pronunciation is the only tiny thing that he could improve from my point of view. He may not be able to get better at this, but it doesn't matter that much. He is still a pleasant guy to watch and he provides great informations to us. 😀

[@heyallenify]

I had a set of generic (though apparently high output) brake light LEDs in my car, and they lasted ~1.5 months before both had failed. The set of Osram LED bulbs has been running for ~4 months now, and while they cost just over $23, I like the output and the expectation that they'll last. Having a warranty is nice as well...

[@adicristi05]

...tu meriti sa lucrezi intr-un laborator man!

[@SergiuGabor]

Prefer garajul meu 😂

[@rotek824]

Best tests on KZbin!

[@robertcornea9250]

Wow great information man thanks! Happy holidays.

[@foolsgold39]

Excellent video!!!!! Been looking for a test on brake light p21/5w leds

[@ice-dogg]

You should've mentioned if any of them have dashboard warning light cancelling. Otherwise ,great video.

[@IBmotive]

the christmastree cracked me up, put it in the work office if you want a few weeks off

[@tallnrough68]

You should test some Lasfit led bulbs ... they are some of the best I have tested

[@toyotabrony]

Nowadays it’s even better from Lasfit.

[@damienlelandais7076]

Thank you for the video man, nice content and fun :)

[@jarod72pm]

dobrý den, žárovky i ledky se testují na 12V a na autě max 13,6V je jasné pokud jim jako v testu naložíte 14V že budou jasnější ale taky budou produkovat více tepla ! Tedy tento test mi nepřipadá úplně v pořádku ale naznačil +- jak svítí. Jinak osobně mám ledky všude na autě a ještě jsem se nesetkal s tím že by ledka měla vyšší teplotu jako žárovka!

[@izglioib]

Thank you for the great video.

[@junquilang]

Very detailed and informative. Great video!

[@nicolasramis7212]

all your videos are useful!!! Thank you

[@mixedboi]

Thank you very much Sergiu

[@PlanetNr4]

Great test, however I would like to know which bulbs would trigger the bulb fail warning in the dash of the car. However, thanks a lot for the content and for speaking in English although it is not your native language.

[@filipMmM]

Bulb H is excellent! 4* at least! I use it and believe me I've tried every single bulb on market.

[@JackReacheround]

I would love to see some Sylvania Zevo bulbs be compared, it's pretty much the premium version of the Osram. The Osram bulb here is the Gen 1 version.

[@kanwardeepsb]

Very informative,good work

[@sulimanorlanes8167]

Nice comparison.. This is a channel that we want.. @project farm russia edition :D

[@MelNikii]

Test hid proyectors from china compare con morimoto

[@TopiasSalakka]

Sinolyn makes decent projectors, they've been praised a lot in a lighting upgrade group i'm in.

[@PirateMTH_ToddH]

Great video. The humor is fun also. :)

[@gabrielbucelea]

Felicitări pentru ceea ce faci .....super super tot ......o întrebare un link de unde putem cumpăra ledurile osram și Philips.....An nou fericit spor in ceea ce faci

[@mru88]

Very nice and informative video! I wonder, how hot will be a 21w turn signal LED bulb with built in resistor/canbus?

[@ScottishScot]

MRU, I use bulb H for rear turn signals. Must have a built in resistor cause I don’t experience any hyperflash. They’re great bulbs IMO 1797 (T-20/7440)

[@mru88]

@@ScottishScot Hi, I want to buy turn signal LED bulb with built in resistor (no hyperflash) for my car, but I’m afraid to not get very hot and melt the headlight connector/case. Like a see in this video, not all chinese led are safe and some of them can start a fire. 🙈

[@jaunceypl]

Great Video Mate, xmas tree LOL 😁

[@MickeyMishra]

This was a JOY to watch! I reached these results MANY years ago. In the standard open clear housing, the Standard Bulbs do best overall in those kinds of housings. They also have the really cool slow rise and fade time. As far as the Amber bulbs are concerned, Same thing with most with clear housings that use a reflector style. (But is not always the case) I like being able to have my Lights on for long periods of time, so on my Minivan, they work great. But for just about everything else? The Halogen loaded bulbs work best. Even when used as back up bulbs. A NOTICE OF CAUTION HOWEVER! Those of you that don't have a RELAY on your Back up bulbs should install one. Especially on cars that have the reverse switch inside the transmission like some Chrysler cars. When that burns out inside your transmission is a MAJOR HEADACHE and cost to fix. Those of you with DIM Halogen bulbs? TRY RUNNING A RELAY HARNESS! Also, you can run them with A/C If you know what you are doing and know how to get it straight from the alternator. THe bulbs will just as long or longer, and have MUCH more output as long as you keep the voltage within 15 Volts AC. For the rest of you? And a CHEAP UPGRADE? Get your Headlights with SOLID Copper Wire, Terminated at the Alternator, and Ground as well running to no less than a 40 amp Relay per bulb. Reason being is voltage drop. Same with your High Beams. On average Stock wire is just not up to the task for incandescent bulbs. Again, IF YOU HAVE to or want to keep stock bulbs. For everyone else? LED. Hands down for weak Headlights. But as for Turn signal Bulbs? Most of the time, its best to just stick with the OEM bulb. Clean the contacts and lube the contact pins once a year to prevent any corrosion from setting in. If you REALLY need BRIGHT Amber looking Bulbs? Just get the COB Amber LED headlight bulbs, and use a Silcone Adaptor as those are fan cooled and at LEAST put out a bit more light then Stock indication bulbs for running lights. Or those that have bulbs that only turn on and flash then turn right off. (Some Toyota early model vans etc) As far as Back up Bulbs? If you HAVE the gumption? And can do it SAFELY? HID Bulbs will work for this. Strongly recommend a RELAY . But it should fit in most SMALL housings and should not melt with the small amount of time you have them on. Otherwise, you are making custom bulbs with 100W Led Chips with some ALuminum stuck to it for THermal mass heat sinking. Its the ONLY soultiion I found would work in SMALL housings that allow you to face the LED towards the rear of the housing. I had some Luck with making custom LED with this method with Small CPU coolers and Server fans, but overall, Best to be used as Back up lights as the noise also alerts people. My Budget champion so far has been a simple round reflector Fog Lamp, with 130W h3 Bulbs that can be bought for a few bucks. And the round reflectors can be had for less then $20 bucks. They have been the Brightest so far next to custom Light bars. Lastly, for those with Reflector housings? Some of you might have luck with the 4 or 6 way COB LED bulbs that are cheap since they suck at projecting the lights, but are pretty good at local fill. Great for seeing curbs, but not much else. Hope that helps out some of you at least in the USA. Thankfully, the Euro's just have good lights from the factory.

[@davecraig7082]

Brilliant, very informative and entertaining!

[@giorgospanas5775]

Excellent video! Thanks

[@youtubesque]

15:53 merry chrismas

[@kianooshkouchaki]

Hi dear friend, I bought the H model lamp from AliExpress and after 6 months each of the LEDs started to blink and eventually burned out and completely failed. I guess the possibility of burning is caused by the excessive heat produced by the lamp ،good luck

[@jekavamber125]

Hi, the Philips that you tested is philips Vision, there is newer model Philips Ultinon. If you make a comparation video about that two model, that would be great.

[@AdrianSilea]

Sergiu, you've got great content! I love your videos and your sense of humour. Kudos for keeping it funny and light, while still being as in-depth as possible. My 1995 BMW R100RT uses two separate bulbs in the tail light. A regular P21W for the brake light and a P5W bulb for the tail light. The P5W seems to have been largely phased out from the automotive industry. It's got the same socket as the P21W, but a smaller glass dome and - obviously - a lower light output. I'm looking to replace at least the tail light bulb with an LED, in an effort to reduce power draw as much as possible. What would you use?

[@jandolezal1062]

Great test! Could you make a test of a Wix oil filter? The manufacturer claims a very high micron efficiency.

[@hitardo]

Great video! I just upgraded almost all lights bulbs on my two cars. I did not upgrade headlights (high and low beams, and front fog lights), as I consider good halogen bulbs to be a better solution; and turn signals, because the duty cycle (time being on against the sum of time being on and off) is significantly lower, and there is a noticeable difference to other drivers. I changed parking light (or side marker), brake light, reverse light, rear fog light, and interior lights (footwell, boot/trunk, and overhead). I switched to LED in order to (a) have more reliable bulbs (less heat and less energy consumption), and (b) better overall light output (better light and uniformity). On the interior I specifically desired more light output, to see better at night - especially during Winter time. I chose Philips, due to its good build quality, reliability, light color, and light output. I chose the "X-tremeUltinon" series - as that was the better light output ones I could find. I am really happy I did change these bulbs. On my 2001 Renault Clio, I was able to change all rear lights. On my 2011 Renault Megane, I was not able to change the P21/5W brake lights, was with LED they stayed on all the time. The DRL and interior lights cause an ECU error, but as these errors do not show up on the dashboard, I am not too worried.

[@Rand0muser2538]

did you had any issues with the periodical inspection or the police? i might wanna make wanna upgrade my parking reverse and brake too since i find its a big electricity waste to use 21w per bulb for my brakes not to mention the tiny bulbs in the third brake lamp which use 36w (in total brakes use 42+36=88w on my car which is a big waste of electricty) also i might wanna upgrade the rear fog light with some brighter bulbs so that the tailgaters know to stay in theyre place (if that wont be an legal issue)

[@hitardo]

@@Rand0muser2538 I feel you! On my previous 1996 Peugeot 106, with 6 W5W on the third brake light and the two P21/5W on the sides, upon touching the brake it was a total of 72W just for applying the brake pedal. Yes, the electrical system was design to handle all that - but the car is old. Moreover, during Winter with the headlights on and heater blowing air, while in traffic with the brake pedal pressed, you can imagine the demand on the electrical system. Hence, I am in favor of that upgrade to LED - but good ones! If you cheap out, you will (a) not get as much electricity savings, and (b) add one more liability to the car - and I imagine that, like me, you do not have insurance that covers fire, as the car is too old. Regarding rear fog light, yes, I did upgrade it. But for providing better light during fog situations. When it comes to the annual vehicle inspection, I never had any issue. Typically, they do not like LED on headlights - which I also do not recommend, as LED is not there yet for retrofitting. On my Megane, the DRL bulbs are quite obvious to be LED, as the headlight is big and clear. Hence, I turned them off before going to the inspection, and turning them back on after it. The other LEDs are always in place and working, and I never had any issue!

[@Rand0muser2538]

@@hitardo well its looks like i can only find replacement for the 2 main brake lights which use the classic p21W my third brake lamp uses t8 3w bulbs (which can be a problem since i cant really find led replacement for these ones and even buying 12 t8 bulbs is just as expensive as replacing all the bulbs in both of the tail lamps i might wanna replace the tail lights too but for some reason my car uses P21/4W for tail lights and fog lights which is diffrent from P21/5w and not even the chinese brands offer this kind of sockets on most of the leds

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@@Rand0muser2538 what brand, model, and year of car do you own? I ask this, so I can search what exact bulbs to work on your case. Because "P21/5W" or "W5W" does not tell the full story.

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@@hitardo skoda octavia 1 2003