Orange Pi zero3. From $17.99 (1GB version)

[@TheHeroWarsAdsCollector]

15:48 i don't think it's drop frames because youtube is forcing vp9 codec by default?

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I have just ordered two of the 4GB versions, great value for the price. Thanks for the heads up!

[@GustavoMsTrashCan]

Looks like a very solid device for retrogaming or hosting a couple docker containers.

[@renobodyrenobody]

I use the Orange Pi Zero 2 since years running +/- 10 containers, inc. Grafana, Postgres, FileZilla, Homer... There is a lot of things already prepared by Pi-hosted Nova Spirit team.

[@droningandgoing9286]

@@renobodyrenobody I'm trying to get docker working on my Orange Pi Zero 2. I've installed armbian and followed the instructions off docker to get it working but I just get errors upon errors - docker will simply not start. What steps did you use to get it working? Did you have any issues and if so, how did you get it working? Sorry, I've tried just about everything and have gotten nowhere, but sometimes random people in KZbin comments can be a help ;)

[@droningandgoing9286]

I ended up just using ubuntu

[@v8racerman]

@@droningandgoing9286 I have used the IOTstack script to install docker. It is intended for the Raspberry PI OS, but still works with range Pi Debian

[@andrewd4906]

A true competitor to the raspberry pi zero 2. I look forward to my 4gb version arriving.

[@WaynesWorld69]

Impressive little SBC. I'm still running my original Orange Pi Zero's but this is tempting.

[@renobodyrenobody]

So much more poverfull!

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@renobodyrenobody Yes, but below you just said that you can't do anything with 4GB RAM. So which is it?

[@renobodyrenobody]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 my phase was wrong : I was not able to use the images from orangepi because I was not able to see the 4Go images, I was able to see only 1Go/2Go and 1.5Go. Finally I seen the 4Go Debian image, installed it and it is fine.

[@robertoguerra5375]

But beware the old Linux that sunxi delivered with opiz3

[@davegettler]

I'm fairly new to this stuff-just using ESP32s and Arduinos so far-but I was able to get Android working on my 1.5 gb version just fine! In the video it shows he doesn't change the option in the Phoenix program for the image to burn as a startup (he does it correctly on his Mac when it works). Someone in another video pointed this out and it was the difference between getting a boot error and it starting perfectly. The Phoenix thing is annoying and it's hard to find the actual program within the zip folder but just keep looking; I think he does show the exact file in this video. And I was on Windows 11 so not sure what that warning was about. I've only spent about 15 minutes on the Pi itself so far but seems great; Google worked and I was able to learn that right-clicking is "exit" or "back" for fellow newbies.

[@VioletGiraffe]

Weird, these things are $5-8 more expensive on Aliexpress, that's quite a lot in percentage. Maybe due to free shipping?..

[@goku445]

I've just learned you can display the temperature on htop. Thanks.

[@MarkShepherdson]

Might be good to do a cheap retro gaming setup

[@dogsauce19]

Is the wifi any better with this board? The others were notorious for dropping wifi all the time. Might be why they decided to switch to just an nvme slot for wifi chips on the 5

[@leepspvideo]

I mostly used Ethernet

[@waterup380]

why do you need old software to burn an android image to the card

[@leepspvideo]

The writing tool isn’t very good

[@waterup380]

@@leepspvideo oh I understand now

[@rkg456]

Have you had any luck getting Armbian running on the OPI Zero 3? All I can get to load so far is the Debian listing from the OrangePi site and it looks ok, but has chinese, non debian Repo's listed for software and updates, so holding off on that one for now.

[@leepspvideo]

I haven’t tried

[@Greeata]

got a 4GB one on the way - seems so odd that difrerent memory configs require it has different install settings

[@srvuk]

It's Ok for what it is and being Allwinner, it will heat your whole home during the winter. I can't help feel that this is a product that I would have expected to see 3 or 4 years ago. My S905X2 from 2018 outperforms this for media playback and streaming. Looking at how OrangePi software development actually works, I do not expect much more to come from them. I'm not sure what the progress for things like Panfost is for Allwinner but it is a generally less supported platform in the open source communities. Could end up being one of those buy because it's cheap, 5 minute wonders that ends up gathering dust because ultimately it doesn't do as well as hoped for. 720p KZbin in Android is not that impressive really and can be achieved by cheap TV boxes produced many years ago. Perhaps the GPIO element will see it garner more practical use for specialised projects.

[@renobodyrenobody]

So I guess it's no compliant to youe use cases, but from my part I use extensively these Orange PI cards since years. And I guess you miss the Orange Pi 5. Sorry for you.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

You sound to me precisely the sort of person that shouldn't be using the "lesser" SBCs anyway and that you've got "sour grapes" over Orange Pi, due to your own personal frustrations. The fact is that hobbyists have been spoilt with the amazing level of support that has been provided for Raspberry Pi, and if that works for most people then good on them. But you can't use Raspberry Pi as the baseline for every other SBC out there - if you start getting into those devices then you should set an expectation of having to do a lot of research and tinkering yourself to get them working optimally. Having myself made Gentoo Linux builds on Banana Pi's, Orange Pi's, Asus Tinkerboard, and a few others, you even have to build your own kernels sometimes to get hardware working as best as possible. The fact is that, by default, SBCs are "hobbyist" devices which means having to do a lot of stuff yourself - the support the Raspberry Pi gets has made it more of a consumer computing device which puts it into a different category for that reason alone. You're simply not comparing "like for like" here.

[@marcomoreno6748]

​@terrydaktyllus1320 good comment and reality check for the average "consumer" expecting these to work with out-the-box images.

[@renobodyrenobody]

Cannot find the 4Go RAM Debian image, I am just able to run the Orange Pi system based on Arch. I want a Debian CLI! I have to wait.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

You can't do anything with Linux on a computer with less than 4GB RAM??? Where does that nonsense come from? You can have a fully booted and ready to go XFCE desktop in less than 200MB! And I am sure you can EASILY run Debian in 4GB. The problem are people wasting CPU and RAM resources on needless eye candy and desktop effects. Clearly some Linux users need to understand better how to optimise their builds.

[@renobodyrenobody]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 my phase was wrong : I was not able to use the images from orangepi because I was not able to see the 4Go images, I was able to see only 1Go/2Go and 1.5Go. Finally I seen the 4Go Debian image, installed it and it is fine.

[@Kw1161]

Thanks Lee for this video. I just saw another video by Taki Uton where he couldn't get Android to install on a San Disk SD card but his Chinese clone installed fine. I wonder if lax security has anything to do with it? I wouldn't put any personal information on that build until you are sure that it is safe. Have a nice day!

[@junovicz]

could you elaborate more?

[@Kw1161]

@@junovicz Yes sir, I meant hidden back doors built in that version of Android and the cheap SD card itself. I do not have the technical skills to verify it ,but SanDisk values its reputation to allow such security breaches, but as the user himself called it a “cheap Chinese SD Card”. So I believe in the old Russian proverb “Trust but Verify.”….so I would not put any sensitive information on said SD card or on that Android system, because when you on the internet you never know who is watching you for your data. Have a nice day!

[@covlinuxguy]

Heya buddy, Just wanted to let you know, sometimes, the default cpu governor doesn't scale up the cpu power correctly. possibly look into seeing if you can install cpupower-gui and set the cores to performance and try again with the video streaming on Linux.

[@深川のガンオタ]

Please turn on subtitles. Automatic translation is not available.

[@leepspvideo]

I only recently uploaded the video. It was still checking at 17:45. They should automatically appear soon.

[@AdnanB-o3k]

awesome. i am gonna use it for RDP. can u tell me if i can connect this to laptop to display it's screen like you did with raspberry pi. is there a vide of orange pi to laptop?

[@leepspvideo]

I briefly tried Remote Desktop on the Orange Pi 5 but couldn’t get it to work. I haven’t made a video. This would work Use your Laptop as a Monitor. HDMI input. Xbox series S/X through Windows or Mac. £9 Capture device kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX7Qc4J5pq2mapo

[@tuliocastro2302]

Do the cases of the Orange Pi Zero 2 work well with the new Zero 3? If they do, can you, please, suggest me some cases?

[@leepspvideo]

I haven’t had any experience with Orange Pi Zero cases

[@haydenc2742]

Yes they fit...I posted a link for the Shenzhen Xunlong store directly on the aliexpress website

[@gerthalberg9735]

ENice bit of kit with a decent amount of ram that makes it much more interesting than the rpi zero 2w. Btw just wondering if you could be interested in tinkering with the dac/adc (es8388) that's present on both the opi 5 and the rock 5. It should enable better quality audio.

[@leepspvideo]

It’s not something I would use

[@arch1107]

impressive but sadly i would like to have decent youtube playback but yes, for the price it is impressive

[@scarline809]

So i followed your steps on flashing card and its stuck on the All Winners part and wont move doward any ideas what to do?

[@leepspvideo]

Try again maybe with a different sd card

[@Suantovith]

What about OpenixCard on Linux instead of PhoenixCard?

[@simonschuh5283]

Can you do a video on the Orange Pi 4. I have aquired 1 and would like to use it with a camera but not sure where to start, I would like to run linux on it and do some nintendo emulation as well.

[@leepspvideo]

Unfortunately I won’t get enough interest in videos on older Orange Pi models. I focused on the Orange Pi 5 because of the huge performance increase. Try the Orange Pi forums.

[@simonschuh5283]

@@leepspvideo thank you for replying

[@BinManSays87]

Taki udon also had issues making the image wright he found cheap Chinese cards worked but his name brand name card always stalled/crashed as it was wrighting

[@leepspvideo]

I just watched that video. He also had the permissions issue with emulation. Since switching to Windows 10 my Sandisk and TCell 64gb cards both work fine.

[@sakthivelvelumani9138]

Hi. Great video. How did you install all the apps?

[@leepspvideo]

The Aptoide store. Like in this opi5 video Orange Pi 5. How to install Android 12 and the Aptoide store. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanOf3SmfN2ZpZY

[@hambuger1]

I am running into a problem with this, I have the 4 gb version and when I put an micro as card in with Ubuntu or android it doesn’t detect it and shows me the built in kernel with an error. Help?

[@leepspvideo]

Try a different sd card

[@hambuger1]

@@leepspvideo it has happened to 3 sd cards

[@hambuger1]

They don’t say class 10 though

[@leepspvideo]

@@hambuger1 are you using the same method as I show in the video

[@optimumpcyt]

Does anyone know how much RAM Android uses in a fresh install? I want to check if a 2gb ram unit is enough for an emulation machine and i can find the 2gb version for 10 dollars less than the 4gb version around here

[@sebastiangonzales46]

Hello is this still good for pihole? and how is the OS support for this one

[@leepspvideo]

@@sebastiangonzales46 I still haven’t run Pihole. I would stick with Raspberry Pi for compatibility

[@ericgillespie2812]

So i have tried imaging with balena etcher and rufus. Ive used several images from the armbian website and i cant seem to get the OPi to connect to my router. Arp -a showed an ip address but it keeps refusing ssh requests on port 22. Anyone have a method of install that has worked for a debian image?

[@leepspvideo]

Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye running on Orange Pi Zero 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6bVp5egadaHaNE

[@Imbecile_Moose94]

im looking to make an android tv box for my aunt, is this a good board for that?

[@leepspvideo]

Kodi seems to work very well. You may have trouble running all the official streaming sites

[@Imbecile_Moose94]

@@leepspvideo oh I see,

[@leepspvideo]

@@Imbecile_Moose94 fire sticks or Roku are cheap, reliable and work with every major streaming service. Especially good for people who don’t want to tinker and experiment with things

[@Imbecile_Moose94]

@@leepspvideo right

[@hambuger1]

how did you convert the tar to disc image file?

[@leepspvideo]

I unzipped it on my iPad. I mentioned it at 13:30

[@core-computinglab]

The link goes to a banana pi page ? Just wanted to let you know

[@leepspvideo]

Thank you. I have changed it. 👍🏼

[@Olafffo]

Can you do video on Orange Pi Zero 2W?

[@leepspvideo]

I don’t have one

[@solvezera]

I have a TV Box with the same processor, does anyone know if I can install armbian through the image on the orangepi website?

[@leepspvideo]

Very unlikely Reborn OS Rock 5b RK3588 image working on Orange Pi 5. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6CXiod_rK6Ng7s

[@breevwhyman2985]

yeah, you can run Linux directly from Android at near native speed. so these boards offer excelent value for money..........

[@TheLuciusLaw]

How did you install Apptoid without a browser?

[@leepspvideo]

Put the Aptoide APK file on a usb stick Orange Pi 5. How to install Android 12 and the Aptoide store. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanOf3SmfN2ZpZY

[@hambuger1]

can someone help me load raspberry pi os onto this? its on the orange pi website, but the instructions are unclear.

[@leepspvideo]

Try Raspberry Pi imager kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4DXanuImLGJndEsi=xYiOSVwT5FkwtLZJ 4:23 in the video. It doesn’t work for Android builds but I expect Linux will work fine Raspberry Pi imager works on Linux Windows and Mac

[@hambuger1]

How did you get those emulators and kodi on?

[@leepspvideo]

Similar to this Orange Pi 5. How to install Android 12 and the Aptoide store. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanOf3SmfN2ZpZY

[@AlmostBrokeLbs]

cant wait mine to arrive (4gb ram version)

[@BabyfangProductions]

How do you install apps?

[@leepspvideo]

Aptoide Orange Pi 5. How to install Android 12 and the Aptoide store. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanOf3SmfN2ZpZY

[@mediamass1404]

try it with a heatsink

[@sudedemmanuel2975]

Dont you have amazon warehouse in uk? Why $17 for delivery?

[@iam.jasonhoward]

💯

[@guaxinimevasivo8338]

Can you test the perfomance on Emulation (android) with PS2 and Wii emulator?

[@christopher480]

dont you mean your mid 2010 mac running windows?

[@leepspvideo]

Yes

[@M3taD4rko]

bro a mi no me da imagen

[@JoseLucasd]

Can this thing be used in linux as daily desktop?

[@leepspvideo]

I would rather have 4GB ram or more

[@christopher480]

and this is why we all stick to raspberry pis when we can.......cuz everything else is crap......come on you cant even flash an os in a relatively easy way on anything orange pi.......it doesnt matter how fast the cpu is if you cant install an os and the support community is tiny.

[@greggregowki2840]

WiFi is not stable or not work properly in the Linux system on this device ? In my opinion this device is not good for Linux. Orange Pi does not provide any support for its products. A much better choice will be still Raspberry Pi zero 2 at a similar price.

[@leepspvideo]

I pretty much always use Ethernet. Try the Orange Pi forums

[@lee99bay]

🙋

[@ashtonwoodturnings225]

Another board that won’t come to the uk

[@leepspvideo]

Amazon ship to the UK

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

One can always find a reason not to do something. I have just ordered two from Aliexpress for a very good price, and happy to wait a couple of weeks for them to arrive. You're simply highlighting a "chicken and egg situation" anyway - nobody is going to set up a more localised distribution network if there isn't the demand for the products. If you buy the boards as they are currently then the chances of local availability increases.

[@grandesetta]

no play games (( and emulator

[@VeolonMedia]

... @TakiUdon got all the problems too.. with Android12TV u become no SDcard entry - on linux at this moment are no Hardware GPU support .. maybe the Penfrost Driver will work

[@junovicz]

does android 12 TV run well with the 1gb ram model? I want to have gpu hardware acceleration but afaik that's only possible on android.

[@nickconnor8667]

thank you for the video i some how managed to get it to work on windows 11 maybe they updated the software or what i found was i had to extract everything from the android.tar file like twice