Left 4 Dead 2 Retrospective Analysis

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Dorkaxe

Dorkaxe

Күн бұрын

The conclusion to the Left 4 Dead retrospective. Left 4 Dead 2 is a perfect sequel to a perfect game, but is that a good thing? Yes, mostly, but also, in some ways, eh. Still great, though.
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Here's the Jimmy Gibbs Jr video I used: • [L4D2] I killed Jimmy ...
0:00:00 Intro
0:00:16 Left 4 Dead 1 is Obsolete
05:39 Less than perfect, but also better?
11:55 Weapons/Equipment
20:40 New Special Infected(BEWARE 22 09 there's a loud glitch sound)
29:41 AI Director Changes/Updates
33:09 Campaigns and Uncommon Infected
50:32 Gauntlet Crescendo Events
54:44 Oh Shit, WATCH OUT
57:44 Scavenge Mode
1:06:15 Survival
1:08:02 Mutations and Realism
1:10:12 Community Campaigns
1:19:27 Left 4 Dead is eternal
1:23:05 SUBSCRIBE
1:23:42 Funny Gameplay Clips
#Left4Dead #Left4Dead2

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@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Apologies for the weird sound glitch at 22:09. I tried to re-render, with changing the clip to fix it, but it must not have helped. I'll try to get that corrected for the L4D1+2 combo video next week. Dorkaxe discord link: discord.gg/rnmSP9FQQg Support me on patreon: www.patreon.com/dorkaxe Follow me on twitter for updates on the channel: twitter.com/darkaxe54 Secondary channel for non-serious content: www.youtube.com/@dorkaxeextra2584/featured
@jmp01a24
@jmp01a24 6 ай бұрын
Rooftop scavenge is a international champions mode. Only the greatest warriors get to stand on top the the podium, basking in the glory of the win. Teamwork has to be like a Patek Philippe timepiece watch.
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 6 ай бұрын
Weird to see the game without Master Chief, the Teletubbies, chicken guns, lightsabers, clowns, and metal tracks. God bless the modding scene ❤
@tourbean790
@tourbean790 6 ай бұрын
Wake the fuck up, survivor, we have an anime mod page to burn 🦾
@mochalavender9398
@mochalavender9398 6 ай бұрын
Or Shrek chasing you down throwing chunks of concrete at you...
@zaneheaston8254
@zaneheaston8254 6 ай бұрын
Eh, Issac Clarke, Master Chief, Frank West, & Pyra for the Left 4 Dead 2 Survivors
@jc_art_
@jc_art_ 6 ай бұрын
I was just playing yesterday, my squad picked god of war 3 kratos (coach), toy bonnie (rochelle, also the one i picked), goku (nick), and i think maybe isaac for ellis (i cant remember)
@B-zk9bt
@B-zk9bt 5 ай бұрын
Mods like: Hunk Ellis and Motifa really make the game worth playing!
@theboringhumanbeing6610
@theboringhumanbeing6610 6 ай бұрын
L4D1: "it's the apocalypse, all hope is lost..." L4D2: "IT'S THE APOCALYPSE! HELL YEAH!" *revs chainsaw as huge explosion occurs in the background*
@SgtStevePH
@SgtStevePH 6 ай бұрын
*"I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE!"*
@-AAA-147
@-AAA-147 6 ай бұрын
@@SgtStevePH "LORD OF THE GAME (GAME GAME GAME)"
@lewislewis3531
@lewislewis3531 6 ай бұрын
28 Days Later became Zombieland
@newturtle3
@newturtle3 5 ай бұрын
Yeah they really toned down the distopian setting for a spoopy but still unsettling scenario but adding banjos (in the south lol) and turned off the darkness with a sun lol.
@axelfloo64
@axelfloo64 5 ай бұрын
Perfectly described​@@lewislewis3531
@tomtommerson6320
@tomtommerson6320 6 ай бұрын
The construction worker infected aren't affected by pipe bombs because they can't hear them due to their ear muffs
@brendendonohue2746
@brendendonohue2746 6 ай бұрын
Valve had the L4D2 cast record voice lines that could be used for custom content i.e. talking about snow and how cold it is, traveling to a military base for rescue and of course like you discovered; prisons.
@B-zk9bt
@B-zk9bt 5 ай бұрын
That’s really cool!
@newturtle3
@newturtle3 5 ай бұрын
Considering Bill's VA died irl awhile back it was honestly a sad but good thing in hindsight.
@dyavolo9883
@dyavolo9883 6 ай бұрын
A point about The Passing - canonically the L4D1 survivors sail off to an island off the mainland to live in (supposed) safety, away from the infected and military. There is an official 'The Sacrifice' comic online by Valve that gives us backstory on the original survivors, plus what happened in-between Blood Harvest and The Sacrifice. Them meeting up with the L4D2 survivors was just random happenstance while they were still recovering from the events of The Sacrifice before setting sail. You can even see the boat they're going to take in the level itself, just to the side of the bridge.
@alybadry203
@alybadry203 2 ай бұрын
I still wish to know the fate of both groups. Will the original survivors find more people who are immune ? What will the military be doing woth the l4d2 group ? Researched to spread immunity ? A cure ? Make them wear gear to avoid trasmitting the disease to extract other survivors? Or just kill them ?
@HotelMari0Maker
@HotelMari0Maker 6 ай бұрын
52:46 Ellis saying "does it hurt?" after neglecting to save you from the smoker got a chuckle out of me 😂
@ironencepersonal9634
@ironencepersonal9634 5 ай бұрын
Labelling Coach as the least favorite character in the game for the voice acting for a single phrase which is used somewhat often, when the one-man cheeseburger apocalypse voice line exists is a wild take
@Themanhimself677
@Themanhimself677 3 ай бұрын
Yep
@TrocaTheNero
@TrocaTheNero 2 ай бұрын
His whole take on the L4D2 crew is pretty dumb ngl.
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, subjective experience is subjective and all, but I've seen Rochelle Hate persist at memeably normalized levels for ages lol.
@aekamuskrat2046
@aekamuskrat2046 6 ай бұрын
Arguably a top 3 game, if not top of the list.
@moerizk3753
@moerizk3753 6 ай бұрын
Left 4 Dead 2 is so good I won’t be surprised if I get another retrospective analysis video recommended to me 10 years from now.
@kckash522
@kckash522 6 ай бұрын
The amount of good memories I have with this game is STAGGERING
@clydemarshall8095
@clydemarshall8095 6 ай бұрын
I’d hardly call Halo “multiplayer focused.” Its campaigns were historically just as important as the multiplayer.
@keachyt
@keachyt 6 ай бұрын
57:00 I agree with your points, the survivors sometimes do go a bit OTT with their callouts. Coach to me makes sense though. He is a sports teacher so it makes sense he has a distinct, booming voice to grab the attention of whoever needs to hear what he is saying. I noticed in a few clips you started to turn around to look at him when he says the lines which i guess shows his effectiveness at grabbing attention. I think its just the game causing the survivors to spit these lines out a bit more than they should. Great video my man :)
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Actually I turned around each time since I was trying to show how pointless some of those were, since I wasn't in any danger lmao. I've been playing L4D1, for future video/patreon video reasons, and I DID notice that those survivors said lines like that a lot too when turning on the captioning, so maybe Coach and his booming voice was the cherry-popper, the one to shatter the illusion and make me aware of it in the first place. GG coach.
@mattsen4297
@mattsen4297 5 ай бұрын
Calling coach from l4d your cherry popper is crazy
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 5 ай бұрын
@@mattsen4297 lmao
@Xenorvya
@Xenorvya Ай бұрын
Dorkaxe was not playing as Coach, and since he dislikes Coach he probably doesn't play as him often, resulting in the bot coach that is often in his team say "Watch out" every 2 second.
@zaneheaston8254
@zaneheaston8254 6 ай бұрын
I never knew that contruction workers were immune to bile bombs, learn something new every day
@DrNGinfan1
@DrNGinfan1 3 ай бұрын
Not necessarily immune; if the bile bomb doesn't hit other infected, they go straight for you.
@vaughnwagner4466
@vaughnwagner4466 6 ай бұрын
I gotta say, 25 minutes in and you've already remarked on the game's sound design more times than many other creators would in 10 hours of review content. As a game sound designer I appreciate this a lot! With left for dead, there's so much SUPER effective sound design to appreciate, too. Great video!
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Very cool, happy you appreciated my appreciation! L4D's sound design is incredible. I still wish other devs tried to do audio cues as effectively as Valve.
@ironiso411
@ironiso411 6 ай бұрын
Swamp Fever has higher spawnrates for chainsaw and grenade launchers compared to the rest of the campaign, and M60 only have a chance to spawn in L4D1 campaigns,The Passing and Cold Stream only
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 14 күн бұрын
It can spawn in The Last Stand as well. I picked one up at the finale when I was playing it earlier.
@matiasgago
@matiasgago 6 ай бұрын
This game has such a special place in my heart, I remember grinding it for hours on end with my cousins scared shitless back in the day. Keep up the great work man!
@clubsodaed
@clubsodaed 6 ай бұрын
My wife Left me for dead 2.
@Lurkzy_nevermore
@Lurkzy_nevermore 6 ай бұрын
Hwt02 reference
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 5 ай бұрын
1:10:06 expert realism is pretty much a community of its own. It’s what I almost exclusively play and much like the versus community, you’ll see the same faces if you play often enough. A lot of us recognize each other even if we aren’t friends and will continue to not send friend invites despite playing together about as often as friends would lmao. Believe it or not, this is our “casual” experience playing left 4 dead. It isn’t uncommon for 4 players to breeze through a campaign on expert realism, not really sweating, and a lot of time, not even communicating besides all 4 collectively saying “gg” at the end and leaving. I prefer communication in my social game but those matches where everyone is quiet and just relaxing killing zombies together are kinda cute lol.
@mattymclaughlin5900
@mattymclaughlin5900 4 ай бұрын
I’m working up to that
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 2 ай бұрын
What are you, gods? You just casually play the hardest shit for fun and telepathically communicate while doing so?
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 2 ай бұрын
@@alastor8091 Well when you’ve done something for long enough, kinda becomes second nature lol. It’s just generally understood what to do in most situations, and there’s plenty of audio cues and character lines to go off of that give enough information without the need for communicating via mic or text chat.
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 2 ай бұрын
@@sleepshouter5017 you can't tell right now, but im kneeling in awe and respect.
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 2 ай бұрын
@@alastor8091 Lmao I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not but uhhh, yeah... It is just a video game after all and at the end of the day all we’re doing is sitting down clicking buttons lol.
@bearforza
@bearforza 6 ай бұрын
Another thing you miss about left 4 dead 1 and 2 for the tank, if you actually listen closely sometimes before you actually come across the tank, you can actually hear him huffing and buffing before you get near him, I remember playing dead air, me and my friend was in the apartment chapter and i heard huffing and buffing and next thing I knew when I come around the corner i heard the music playing and it scared tf outta me and him, fun times.
@Chronomaton
@Chronomaton 6 ай бұрын
To add to the "everlasting dragon" aspect it's one of the last games of this kind that worked fully offline as well. You've got enough options and mods to make things work on harder difficulties as well so you're not stuck with a neutered experience either.
@iwonthesitatebitch5315
@iwonthesitatebitch5315 6 ай бұрын
L4D2's mutations could never capture L4D1's atmosphere
@sirpuffball6366
@sirpuffball6366 6 ай бұрын
"I'm gonna lash out" is such a powerful thing to say
@NateDog975
@NateDog975 6 ай бұрын
I would know. I paid the price lol
@1FenFen1
@1FenFen1 6 ай бұрын
@@NateDog975 how does it feel to game?
@NateDog975
@NateDog975 6 ай бұрын
@@1FenFen1 It feels
@Shadow-jm9ei
@Shadow-jm9ei 6 ай бұрын
i think you should give the new survivors more chances and pay more attention to their conversations, maybe even see the voice lines online, theres so many stuff you can miss from them, specially compared from the l4d1 survivors. Theres alot of animation videos that make l4d2 campaings like a series (the best one being the l4d2 beejie bean series) that show alot of their personality. I think both groups are equally great. Coach is leader just like BIll, just more positive and more casual.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
I totally get liking them, I don't even dislike them, but I still prefer the 1st group. Bill and Francis are unmatched imo, and Louis and Zoey provide their own levels of quality.
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D 5 ай бұрын
L4D1 = Turtle Rock Studios's L4D L4D2 = Valve's L4D
@bobfray9496
@bobfray9496 6 ай бұрын
dead center path is just what door you go into and its hp based
@nukclear2741
@nukclear2741 6 ай бұрын
28:00 Here's a not so fun fact about the wondering witch. There's a small chance that the game decides that you are doing too well, and decides to place one of them down a walkway you NEED to take. That was my first time experiencing a Wandering Witch, so you cab imagine how annoying that was.
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 23 күн бұрын
This was a fantastic analysis, really enjoyable vibes and perspective all around, and the ending gameplay had me dying with much-needed laughter after a crazy few weeks. So glad I watched this. Thanks for all your hard work!
@MollieLolly
@MollieLolly 6 ай бұрын
Your dead island review was so good, looking forward to this 😁
@DavetheTurnip
@DavetheTurnip 6 ай бұрын
That was a lot of fun. The community maps you featured sound awesome, and I had a blast playing a couple games with you and others. It makes me kind of want to return to the game and give it a proper go. 😁
@ubermorpth2208
@ubermorpth2208 6 ай бұрын
Very much looking forward to this video, course some small corrections from the video itself: The L4D1 mutation like you point out doesn't change the newly added forced crescendo events added to Chapter 4 of Dead Air, but also new ones are added for Death Toll (Chapter 4) and Blood Harvest, (both Chapter 3 and 4). Also the original 4 weapon models/sounds from L4D2 are still different from L4D1, like the pistols, pumpshotgun, hunting rifle ect. Fallen Survivors originally were intended to appear in L4D2 base game but valve cut them at the last min (You can actually see them in one of the scenes during the l4d2 opening, the one with rochelle at the turret in swamp fever's mansion. The ported versions of L4D1 Campaign's also had some of uncommon infected added to those campaigns with colors swapped to match the l4d1 commons. I.E CEDA/Construction zombies in the hospital/construction sites, mudmen in sewers, and very rarely fallen survivors. The unique lines you heard on certain campaigns are voice lines mostly for the L4D2 cast that valve recorded purely for the community to use in custom campaigns, so they often can fit for almost anything you can think of.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I didn't know about the Valve getting the cast do say generic lines, thing. Holy fuck that's so cool. I knew about certain crescendo events turning into a gauntlet in L4D2's mutation/general L4D2 on the first game's maps, but I didn't see that as significant as making the metal detector mandatory in Dead Air. Like, for instance, the crows that you scare away in Blood Harvest in L4D1 invites a big wave of zombies, but in L4D2, it's an endless wave. It is a difference, you're right, but I suppose I didn't see it as big of a change when writing.
@TenthSgtSnipes
@TenthSgtSnipes 6 ай бұрын
I love modding the heck out of this game. Just turning my game into the halo flood game I wish we got is just the best
@jinxthegenderfluid
@jinxthegenderfluid 6 ай бұрын
I’m only about five minutes in and while I do disagree with you on liking the 1st game’s characters more I still love the way the 1st game feels compared to the 2nd one
@NotSoPc
@NotSoPc 6 ай бұрын
Well that's my evening sorted. Love your stuff. Watched nearly all of your vids.
@MrSw3rls
@MrSw3rls 6 ай бұрын
jockeys used to be integral to a charger knocking someone off a map in versus. Also they didn't suck. Their jump should have just been a little more magnetic/sticky. The worst part about a jockey was that you'd just bump off people, and it would feel like they would only grab at/past the apex of their jump
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Oh dang, that's really interesting info. Thanks for sharing!
@imran_hisham
@imran_hisham 5 ай бұрын
I've sunk in several hundred hours into this game and I've pinpointed why it is timeless. It's simplicity and straightforwardness eases newer players into the game whilst having very apparent skill ceilings to reach as you've become more experienced and familiar. Sure, I think that playing it in casual setting is fun in its own way but having a full stack being locked in and committed to finishing a map is a feeling like no other, especially on custom maps where the difficulty is unforgiving. I do feel that because of this relatively high skill ceiling, versus has become quite unplayable unless you're in custom lobby with friends. Still one of the best games to accompany my childhood and the main source of core memories with my friends Amazing video axe, keep it up 🖤🙌🙌
@splashlemon2966
@splashlemon2966 6 ай бұрын
Correction i thought id add to this really well crafted video! You say Cold Stream was a community map turned official. The Last Stand was also the same deal but you didn't say anything about that so in case it was an error. The Last Stand campaign was created by a few members of the community for left 4 dead 2. Valve to my knowledge had little or none involvement in the design process. Otherwise amazing video!
@nrg6245
@nrg6245 5 ай бұрын
I love these video essays on OG games is OG gamers grew up playing. This type of content is like brain food nostalgia trip and I’m all here for it and can tell all the hard work that are put into these videos. I love all my OG gamers. Born in 2000 here ❤
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 23 күн бұрын
Wholesome comment, but also, how dare a young'un like you make me feel old talking about how YOU get nostalgia 😂 BACK IN MY DAY WE HAD TO WALK UPHILL BOTH WAYS TO FETCH A BUCKET OF NOSTALGIA, GET OFF MY LAWN
@ethans2647
@ethans2647 6 ай бұрын
Great vid, man These always make my day when they come out, like Salt's vids
@superz6921
@superz6921 6 ай бұрын
your L4D1 was the very first video I saw. All I have to say is that you re one of the most underrated youtubers! I love you videos keep them up!
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Hey thank you so much!
@AllmightyLordDeath
@AllmightyLordDeath 6 ай бұрын
I love your retrospectives and I wish you the best of luck with your channel
@amazonen66
@amazonen66 6 ай бұрын
Great video Dork! While playing the game I kept returning to the fact that this game is so much deeper than I ever thought it would be. There's actual gameplay here past killing zombies (although there may be too many of them some would say). There are lots of cool mechanics here to delve into, stuff I will probably introduce to someone else in the future, to further its legacy even more. Thanks for the games, it was a lot of fun.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 6 ай бұрын
I got an xbox one around a year ago mainly to play left 4 dead 1 and 2 splitscreen with friends. Glad I did.
@snakeface5652
@snakeface5652 5 ай бұрын
That moment when you get kicked because you just want to play verses on your steam deck in bed. In fact, it feels like casual play on a lot of multiplayer games is dead.
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 14 күн бұрын
People will kick you in this game if they so much as dislike your username. And then they wonder why nobody has fun playing Versus anymore. Even if you do everything right you're still likely going to get kicked either because the team wants to have a friend join or because something didn't go according to plan so they blame it on you.
@anjapaints
@anjapaints 6 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to this vid :) Thanks for covering my favorite zombo game.
@justinfleck6329
@justinfleck6329 6 ай бұрын
I am not a first person shooter guy but the way you explain this game does make me excited to play it! As always a great job and I look forward to the next video!!
@switch317
@switch317 6 ай бұрын
It's such a good game, even after a decade later, even I still play it
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 6 ай бұрын
Your gameplay in the end was hilarious:D
@Cyberplays10
@Cyberplays10 6 ай бұрын
i still play l4d1 for the memories and its very fun for an old game
@ihavehoodies
@ihavehoodies 6 ай бұрын
Not even gonna lie, that intro freaked me out lmao
@kellym8mbl-dr1he
@kellym8mbl-dr1he 6 ай бұрын
You finally did it, I love you bro
@lifeasparty4
@lifeasparty4 6 ай бұрын
Can you do a review on hotline Miami and hotline Miami 2 wrong number
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
The dorkaxe of old might have said "no way" but honestly, maybe this comment will make me think about it and eventually do it. Who knows.
@black0mode150
@black0mode150 6 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this since the first video
@CakeSpeare175
@CakeSpeare175 4 ай бұрын
Everybody gangsta until the valve guy turns around
@theotv5522
@theotv5522 5 ай бұрын
The issue with players opting to use the most efficient loadout can usually be traced back to the devs unable to make other "less viable" options fun or interesting. In the history of gaming, players have time and time again search for better ways to tackle the game. So let's say in L4D2 case, there's usually no incentives to keep your SMG once you found an AK or any other tier 2 weapons. So they could have made the SMG able to do things those tier 2 weapons can't (without nerfing the tier 2 weapons). I don't know how, but that's the general consensus that other devs do in their game, to incentivize their players to try out everything the game has to offer. Honestly, if I were to buff tier 1 guns, I say if you equip SMG, you can carry 2 throwables or 2 pills/adren. So then players will have to make a choice if they want a stronger primary or able to carry more stuff for later.
@rage9715
@rage9715 13 күн бұрын
Nothing better than playing l4d with friends and having a laugh when a smoker drags one of us away and leg it to the safe room.
@YoungBasedChefBeezy
@YoungBasedChefBeezy 4 ай бұрын
I think what makes the L4D2 survivors less tolerable to you could be that they aren’t very relatable to you. As someone from the south, Ellis, Rochelle and Coach are pretty common people to come across in everyday life. Bill and Francis would fit in with that group. I think, personally, Ellis and coach are far more relatable than any of the other characters. Also, the construction worker zombies. Aren’t affected by pipe bombs because they wear ear protection. They can’t hear it.
@radmilk73
@radmilk73 6 ай бұрын
Banger as always dorkaxe
@HowieCatMeow
@HowieCatMeow Ай бұрын
If you ever want a really good challenge look up Hard-Mode on the Workshop, and Random Director also Survivor Swap
@Space_Australian
@Space_Australian 6 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, new L4D2 retrospective dropped
@squido_
@squido_ 5 ай бұрын
really good video theres lots of effort put into this
@Miaalabeille
@Miaalabeille 6 ай бұрын
Dorkaxe AND L4D2 (one of my highest playtime game on steam) ?? Woaa YES !
@cpt.lounatic4010
@cpt.lounatic4010 6 ай бұрын
It really depends on the competence of your group - im not sure of your difficulty assessment but i see where u are coming from. I notice the opposite- alot of people upping difficulty to expert, to which even though im sure it will end terribly and always does, i get a thrill in always voting yes. So it works both ways when u up the stakes.
@RancorSnp
@RancorSnp Ай бұрын
Left 4 Dead is a series that feels fully designed around expert difficulty with lower difficulties being tacked on just to help the players learn the game. After playing for a while, going on a difficulty lower than expert just feels... Wrong it's usually more fun to lose on expert than win on advanced
@phoenixrose1995
@phoenixrose1995 6 ай бұрын
the game balance of L4D2 was broken once they added melee weapons into the game. while i do love the melee weapons, i will say that you should not be able to just keep swinging a melee weapon forever. there needs to be a cool down just like the shove has
@brendendonohue2746
@brendendonohue2746 5 ай бұрын
Well shoving is instantaneous meaning in L4D1 you can be in a corner and shove like crazy and be untouchable while melee weapons take a second to make contact and you could still take damage in a horde.
@phoenixrose1995
@phoenixrose1995 5 ай бұрын
@@brendendonohue2746 while that is true, back in L4D1 the infinite shove didn't let you kill zombies unless you shoved them like 5 times. in L4D2, 1 single swing of a melee weapon can kill almost a full horde in front of you
@YoungBasedChefBeezy
@YoungBasedChefBeezy 4 ай бұрын
@@phoenixrose1995but the pistol has infinite ammo
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 23 күн бұрын
​​@@phoenixrose1995 As a not-very-skilled gamer (it's just a fact, I've got over 1k hours in this game lol), who especially struggles at managing hordes of commons, I don't agree that melee weapons are too powerful and handle commons too easily. I've had to really work on my timing with them and still get in real trouble if my back isn't against a wall or ideally a corner. I think sometimes people with well-honed skills forget that many of us out here can learn the game well but still just naturally have poor/non-virtuosic skill :P Melees help balance that for us, but they're far from feeling op.
@zacharyashmore1830
@zacharyashmore1830 6 ай бұрын
I would love to hear your opinions on the L4D2 custom map 'Back to School'. It's a super good map that takes you through a wide array of settings.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. We'll see!
@zacharyashmore1830
@zacharyashmore1830 6 ай бұрын
@@Dorkaxe its super LONG, but its amazing. So many different locations, details, custom events and unique voice lines.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Just played it! Both versions(the L4D1 demo 3 chapter one and the full L4D2 6 chapter one). yeah it was good!
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese 23 күн бұрын
Commenting to hopefully get pinged about this thread one day when I have a real computer handy and can check out this map lol. I love custom campaigns. Especially love I Hate Mountains and that one skyscraper one, argh, forgetting the name is gonna drive me nuts for a while lol
@zacharyashmore1830
@zacharyashmore1830 22 күн бұрын
@@ItsAsparageese Discraper redux?
@umbreonhidden1174
@umbreonhidden1174 6 ай бұрын
It's not even been a minute and I can tell you exactly why I would go back to L4D1 but imma watch the full video before at least making my case 🙏🏻
@gub4941
@gub4941 6 ай бұрын
Thank god you recognize hard rain as the masterpiece it is
@valsventures8795
@valsventures8795 5 ай бұрын
If not already a 'harder rain' sequel would be awesome. haven't seen the heavier rain mechanic in other community campaigns far as i'm aware. enlighten me if so.
@jackmartin6502
@jackmartin6502 6 ай бұрын
On your point about the Passing's story not making sense, it's partly because it follows the lore of The Sacrifice comic, and not necessarily the campaign. During it, Louis was injured by a yacht full of witches and Bill was the sacrifice. I highly recommend you read it, the lore is awesome and it bridges the gap between Blood Harvest and The Sacrifice.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Some of my discord people informed me of it. Kinda neat I suppose.
@jackmartin6502
@jackmartin6502 6 ай бұрын
@@Dorkaxe Woah, you responded! I loved your video!! Subscribed!
@CaptPatrick01
@CaptPatrick01 6 ай бұрын
I felt that same way near the 11 minute mark about the ammo piles. I actually tried out a sourcemod that makes them limited use to further the weapon switching mechanic, but ended up not liking it because it wouldn't save my settings between maps let alone sessions, and its defaults were so limited it would outright break many finales, nor did it give the means to change those defaults in a text editor.
@normalcommenter8595
@normalcommenter8595 5 ай бұрын
great video, bit surprised you didnt go over versus campaigns at all though, thats a huge part of the current playerbase with even competitive esports variations with restrictions and metas and even mmr ratings.
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 5 ай бұрын
I didn't as I went through versus mode in the first video. I love versus, though, very fun and smartly crafted (if perhaps tanks+cars is a bit OP)
@Eh.........
@Eh......... 6 ай бұрын
I agree with the point about guns. Personally I'd make it so if a gun is picked up, there wont be another unlimited stash of it in safe rooms/ other rooms with this mechanic, to make it more sensible, and at the same time balance out the feeling of being overpowered and to add a choice of what to keep (instead of just grabbing ak47 with all your teammates). Also I'd reduce the amount of scattered weapons across the campaign, making high tier weapons spawn less frequently (but not to change it in places like gun store)
@AdrX003
@AdrX003 6 ай бұрын
Completely IMPOSSIBLE to not subscribe after this (i was already subscribed so i find myself like a witch with no targets)
@SillyGoober763
@SillyGoober763 6 ай бұрын
31:08 Hey, it’s our Melee only campaign! Real talk tho, loved the video and it was fun playing only melee with you. (P.S. I was right about me picking up a gun, it cancelled the whole run for me lmao). Last thing, Weapons over here!
@Dorkaxe
@Dorkaxe 6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah dude it was fun! Thanks for the help 🥳
@SillyGoober763
@SillyGoober763 6 ай бұрын
@@Dorkaxenot a problem lol, glad you invited me! If you ever run any multiplayer games and need someone to join, feel free to hmu!
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@WowSuchGaming2009
@WowSuchGaming2009 6 ай бұрын
Now I feel like L4D1 and L4D2 would be perfect if valved had fixed the most hitbox and bugs in the game especially the bots I felt like they should have made the bots really smarter and act like human players instead of making them super dumb but yeah valve should remaster L4D1 and 2 by fixing the hitbox errors
@prezplayhouse908
@prezplayhouse908 6 ай бұрын
Babe wake up theres a video essay for dorkaxe
@Prince_Of_Fish
@Prince_Of_Fish 26 күн бұрын
the L4D1 survivors arent living on the bridge forever. they have a boat they are going to take to the Florida Keys, its in The Sacrifice comic.
@shualopez1288
@shualopez1288 5 ай бұрын
The levels, melee weapons, and expanded options for throwables and rifles are definitely all major improvements. I also love the new set of personalities on display for characters. The tweaks to some common infected add a lot to distinguish each campaign and change the play style enough to keep it fresh. The new special infected though can be an exercise in frustration. Spitters are a welcome addition; I like how they can deny access to areas and work best in tandem with other infected. The jockey is fine but a bit imbalanced in how it functions as the midway point between a hunter and smoker; it does a little too much damage while mounted to be balanced but I can overlook this. The charger however… the ****ing charger… This one is utterly broken in how much damage it can take, how it can swiftly take a player across a map often insta-killing them, and how many can spawn through every level. I have been incapacitated or killed by chargers more than any other infected in the game. Left 4 Dead 2 is damn good but the Director needed to be toned down just a hair because it feels like there is always at least one special infected to deal with every moment even on normal. I used to play this game with the developer console on at all times so I could despawn chargers on certain maps or when it felt like I was getting an unfair amount of them. Tl;dr: New weapons and the spitter are great. Jockeys should do slightly less damage. Chargers should be limited to three per map maximum. The AI Director should be given a longer cooldown between special infected.
@TonysoulreaperGaming
@TonysoulreaperGaming 6 ай бұрын
9:15 he says dying light and shows dead island
@HighOnIce
@HighOnIce 6 ай бұрын
Made by the same devs
@electrophonics1
@electrophonics1 6 ай бұрын
I love devil mountain, feels like the part of the country I love in so much that it actually makes me feel at home
@meeplesmcmeep3595
@meeplesmcmeep3595 6 ай бұрын
MAH FRIENDS CALL ME COACH
@newturtle3
@newturtle3 5 ай бұрын
3:33 this just cements how awesome valve was and somewhat still is a little. Seeing other ytube vids descrjbing l4d2 like crowbat, the act man, etc. and reading or rather playing the in game dev commentary It really calls in how much effort and hard work was put into the game. At the time just how advanced it was vs other games at the time and even now. I remember a quote from the devs how less is more. They simplified mechanics but stretched them as far as possible. Ex: Audio cues. Simple but each enemy or event had specific ones. Its how you can tell each special infected apart. Being puked on or a car alarm / event scripted alarm or just random hoarde incoming sounds. You knew the second you heard the music change hype up and a chorus get louder that a witch was nearby along with the red over her and her wails. When startled the music changes and kicks into high gear. The community made content mods are also great. The simplicity of everything made the game easier to rework and mod. Even the infected having a stuntman do like what 4k different poses of dying or running. For the regular hoarde mind you. Devs really honestly earned their paychecks and extra. Steam keeps coming out ontop and valve just keeps getting higher on the tier list of publishers even if they had some flops most of their games and steam as a service p much outweights their competition. They dont even have to do anything. Other companies and games are getting worse but they choose not to rest on their laurels and keep pushing out new innovations. Gaben helping in hand delivering the first wave of what 400 or so steam a decks recently just shows how valve is still a relative and standalone great company.
@eatpant4ever
@eatpant4ever 6 ай бұрын
IT'S FINALLY HERE!! 💕
@Crevy1467
@Crevy1467 5 ай бұрын
I will never have a better gaming experience than I did with L4D 1&2.
@Don_Aiden
@Don_Aiden 6 ай бұрын
“Dying light” proceeds to show dead island
@goodnightgoodluck309
@goodnightgoodluck309 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if anyone can confirm this, but i swear the guitar used to break back in the day when the game launched
@Hum0ng0us
@Hum0ng0us Ай бұрын
When you punch the clowns, their noses honk.
@gabrielandy9272
@gabrielandy9272 16 күн бұрын
not having a reason to play the old game is a good thing, we have the old maps remastered in l4d2 its much better it would be much worse if we did not had those. payday 2 is so good that u have payday 1 remastared inside it, all games should do this in my opnion. you video is amazing liked and subscribed
@Pasha_Shkaf
@Pasha_Shkaf 6 ай бұрын
OH MY LORD THIS WILL BE A GOOD TIME
@Bonked_YT
@Bonked_YT 6 ай бұрын
Yay new left 4 dead content :3
@lobaandrade7172
@lobaandrade7172 6 ай бұрын
The swamp fever slander deserves a dislike if the rest of the video wasn’t as good as it was
@ponurezapomnienie
@ponurezapomnienie 6 ай бұрын
L4D1 definitely had better characters and atmosphere, especially since it had the hottest, most handsome, most muscular, daddy best ever gay Francis. However since this all is available in l4d2 than it’s understand that you like to play this classic with all the improvements made in l4d2
@ponurezapomnienie
@ponurezapomnienie 6 ай бұрын
Also uncommon appear on l4d1 maps - CEDA - The Sacrifice and No mercy - Fallen infected - No mercy, crash course, death toll and the last stand - Construction workers - No mercy, dead air, the sacrifice - Riot - Dead air
@idolhandz3946
@idolhandz3946 5 ай бұрын
I ran with the loadout of Desert Eagle and grenade launcher. I used the desert eagle as my primary & the grenade launcher for special infected /tanks. The desert Eagle was like a hand shotgun. Also the sniper rifle without using the scope was pretty devastating.
@Itz_Puxe
@Itz_Puxe 6 ай бұрын
L4D1 gun reloading waa UNMATCHED❤ i loved racking a shell before spraying out lead
@balakay5084
@balakay5084 5 ай бұрын
Valve took people being mad about how soon L4D2 so personal they decided we didnt need a LFD3 until 2030 😩
@waffle32
@waffle32 6 ай бұрын
TIME FOR PEAK
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 2 ай бұрын
This game is awesome. Most favorite characters to play as are Rochelle and Ellis.
@TheSilvermk6
@TheSilvermk6 6 ай бұрын
Dorkaxe uploaded a new video? Let me like it before even watching it.
@Obsidiar
@Obsidiar 6 ай бұрын
L4d was amazing. 2 expanded on it greatly. Shame that 95% of ppl playing concurrently(on xbx1 at least) are new players or people who never played l4d before l4d2. Awesome vid
@nicklenuts
@nicklenuts 6 ай бұрын
The intro is funny for some reason
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