Legacy Tarn: IDW Was Cool

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[@det.bullock4461]

Tarn in IDW is shorter than Megatron, he appears big because apart from Magnus and Megs most of the main Lost Light bots are on the smaller side of the scale. I'm hoping for at least Nickel when it comes to the rest of the DJD, she'd be a neat Core class or accessoried Deluxe.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean there's a shot of Megatron standing next to magnus and they are the same size. It'd be sick to get a Nickle.

[@remus_lupin]

​@@PerspectiveEnd ​​​​​​ TFWiki has a panel of Tarn shaking hands with Skids. Looks about Seeker/ Optimus size, to me. Even grabbed my Skids to compare. And sizes in the comics & G1 cartoon (it's more consistent, once they moved to CGI) are inconsistent, depending on how careful the artist is being & what the story calls for. I can't imagine Hasbro passing on the chance to do a Leader that isn't that complex, but they probably found the Skids panel & went with that as the scale. Further down Tarn's TFWiki, there's a pic that has him the same size as Deathsaurus. I'd rather get a wider release Voyager, than force a bigger size class, that's often harder to find, just to cash in. I doubt Megatron would rebuild an Autobot he turned that powerful. Big & strong, yes. Bigger & stronger than him, no. What if he reverted? Sorry for the multiple pings, if that happened. Edits kept merging the first few letters with your name, because KZbin/ Google can't code.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@remus_lupin He's about perfect in scale to the Gamer edition WFC Optimus, and his posing is so good that I currently have him on display catching Optimus' axe and kicking him in the chest in the same motion.

[@devinurbina6868]

I think Tarns altmode is able to tread the delicate line of "it's a tank" and "it's alien" Also, I ask a question about what autobots would you choose for a team of 12 (7 bots and a team of 5), so now I ask what 12 cons would you would have (7 and team of 5). Which bot, what would they turn into, and what personality would you give them.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Maybe that's just it. I don't remember you asking me before. Like what am I choosing them for? Combat effectiveness or like how much I want to write for them?

[@devinurbina6868]

@@PerspectiveEnd like, if Hasbro asked you to make a transformer show, and said you had to use 12 decipticons (tema of 5 included), who would you choose, what altmodes,and how would you want their personality to be.

[@ethanielm03]

I don't have Tarn yet but I do have Leo Prime and the way you described your reaction to getting Tarn is exactly how I felt getting Leo. He's very similar in that he's shockingly small for a voyager and feels almost perfect but has a few minor but glaring flaws that hold him back

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Really? I didn't notice that for lio prime my self.

[@guffy2486]

It’s alright all things considered. It has great posing and great silhouettes. But it’s not gods gift to this earth. The transformation is boring and the chest on mine pops off. But hey I’m glad to have him.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

My first instinct is that it doesn't have good posing, but no it's really good on that front, it's just those damn shoulders are so ugly it ruins that for me.

[@GameIdiots69]

Finally something actually good… Not perfect but still ok Here’s me just ranting below: First is the size, he has this weird feeling that he feels small but is at the same height as Optimus so I’m not sure, secondly, the hot rod shoulders suck like really it sucks so much, in fact if that problem was fixed I would give it a 9/10 or a 10/10. Next is the arm cannon, I don’t know if it’s my copy or something but the connector that connects with the “guns” is just loose that if I nudge it, it will swivel around. And the arms seem too short… Anyways thanks for listening to me and “wasting your time” : ) Also at the end of the video it cuts off XD

[@izzik2781]

I mean Dragon Megatron was also great

[@PerspectiveEnd]

What was wrong with Inferno? And Scrap Hook? Oh yeah, with better shoulders this could have been like a 9 out of 10. Mines about that loose too. And you didn't waste my time, but I did see what you did there.

[@blazingbot2853]

I think this tarn figure is just "glitch" that didnt just grew in size when becoming tarn and the hotrod shoulders

[@PerspectiveEnd]

my god that mkes so much sense.

[@blazingbot2853]

@@PerspectiveEnd theres no comfirmation that is the reason why its small but its just a theory

[@MasterPlo]

Do you have Lio Prime yet? I think you will like him except for his legs on his arms

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It breaks my heart to say this... I like Lio Prime more than this.

[@MasterPlo]

@@PerspectiveEnd wow. Can't wait for the review then

[@Sky_8D]

Now let’s get the one that transforms into a electric chair

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Kaon. That was Kaon.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

I’m going to laugh if you find Lio Convoy to be a better figure than this during “What’s the Best Evolution Wave 1”. Not that I think Tarn is bad at all, it’s just that you going from being let down by his Hot Rod shoulders and inaccurate scale (except when compared to Grimlock) to being frustrated that the Japanese furry Optimus knockoff is surprisingly nice for what he is would be funny (at least to me). Also, in my personal canon, Tarn was made from Dion’s detritus.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

What do you mean that it's "Except when compared to Grimlock" it's especially inaccurate when compared to him. And I'm going to say something that may shock you... I like... The Lio Convoy figure more... I don't know if it will win a WTB, but I HATE those shoulders on Tarn.

[@grunt0022]

what do you think about the Bludgeon redeco?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I can't say that I'm interested.

[@feralstorm]

I have a similar feeling that I "should" like it more than I actually do. Agree that Tarn feels a bit too slight, and needed to be taller, or beefier, or both.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm glad I could voice your frustrations.

[@drex_668]

I got this figure the other day and my first thought was that the shoulders could have been fixed to prevent the hot rod shoulder

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Same. That's my real concern here.

[@Boingnania]

I know this may sound weird but, maybe it would’ve been better if they made Tarn a leader class, just slightly taller than what he is right now, give him reworked shoulders and more bulk, and to make the price worth it, put in a core class nickel. That could pose unlike wheelie.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Absolutely, I would have been thrilled with what you just suggested.

[@kevinp.h157]

Then why is tarn a yoyager to begin with?

[@Ms.Ronloodle]

​@@kevinp.h157Probably for the Bludgeon retool.

[@ColdTRex]

I knew he was a little on the shorter side but yikes he flat, even though I don’t give a care about IDW or scale(usually) I think of Tarn to at least be the same height as Optimus but WAY THICKER.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah he's supposed to be a JACKED DUDE.

[@OverlordIntecris]

I suppose I didn't mind the scaling difference because the rest of the plastic got used to fill almost every single gap on the figure. I showed him to my friend who hasn't collected a new Transformer in about a decade, and he was surprised that it actually transformed since the robot mode was so clean. I also feel like Jhiaxus is built like an 80s Action Character, so he'd be buffer than anybody except Prime, Megs or the Dinobots. Would've definitely been cooler at leader scale, and I 100% agree about the clear plastic chest; it should've been gray plastic that was sturdily pinned on. I've figured out the trick to transforming him correctly without popping it off, but it would've been nicer if I didn't have to worry about it

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean even if that's the case. Tarn is supposed to be a literal giant with more in common with a Monster than a person. And Honestly none of that is my real issue. My real issue is the shoulders.

[@mrd00mguy81]

​@@PerspectiveEnd Tarn is not a giant and never was. Аnd now, after twitter discussion, you know it. Hi >:3

[@kylelangdon6724]

Just throw a decepticon mask on Shattered Glass Grimlock. Instant Big Tarn.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That would have his feel more for sure.

[@ViewpointFinish]

Did you base your profile off of tarn's mask?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I did not not. Here's the backstory of my logo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eofagYKAbpuIbJY The version of the logo I used on this video though is one that's mixed with tarns mask.

[@ViewpointFinish]

@@PerspectiveEnd k

[@silverslayer6262]

6:15 Bayonetta: “tch, amateur.”

[@PerspectiveEnd]

What cause he's not using those for heels? I'd love to see her try using those as heels on her shoe's, her toes would be feet off the ground.

[@jakesutton4603]

Could be wrong because it’s been a Long while since i read the comics but would Legacy tarn scale beter to the MMC Helex and Tesarus then MMC’s own Tarn?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I don't know, I don't have their Helex or Tesarus, though Probably, though maybe a legends version would scale better to them.

[@Nathaniel_dino2008-jz6gv]

Omg it's guy a from carnivores mod!

[@Arklegend2169]

I remember when this was revealed I was excited cause i love the idw comics and its was what partly got me back into collecting and when i got him in hand i was surprised how even tho he's on the skinny side, to me it still has the terrifying feel to him, although my only complaint i have is the arm slowly losing stability to hold up his cannon and also wanna mention the hands being visible in the tank mode doesnt bug me since i dont see how they could have hid them, but overall this figure to me was special and a good figure but its not perfect but its good

[@hypertech116]

I don't think it feels wrong to have a Tarn that's an average Voyager, his arms are just too thin. And the Hot Rod shoulders are just not necessary. He's not supposed to be the biggest normal guy ever. Tesarus, Bulkhead, and Lugnut should be bigger. (I found Tesarus cause his name sounds and looks like thesaurus) You said Legacy Tarn in the beginning of the video like Thew does. A great way to hide your opinion, cause that way I expect you to praise this more than MP Skyfire. Would you like Nickel to be a separate Core class or come with Tesarus? IDW Transformers often looks Gundam-like and that's one big reason I like the aesthetic. But more faceplates and visors please, I hate that Misfire doesn't have his visor in IDW. I bought Siege Springer for 29 bucks, and I don't have the lower leg problems. The feet are reasonably tight, the right knee tab is STRONG, and the second pair of knee joints can hold. He can also roll in car mode. Have you tried pushing in the crotch in car mode?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

But he's not Average, he's Below Average. Tesarus is the Size of A BUILDING compared to him. Tesarus needs to be like a Titan or minimum a Commander. His head was as Big as Grimlocks TORSO in the comics. What do you mean the way Thew does? I wish I could have praised this thing. I want to love it so bad. And yes IDW is a bit Anime Inspired. I'm glad you are liking your Springer.

[@supergoji2007]

I can't wait to find this figure, I can FINALLY find Legacy Wave 3 in my area, but no Legacy Evo, I cant wait to find him!!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope it pleases you more than me.

[@Arbiter-mk4ew]

I sometimes think all those flat head pins are to prevent KO companies from disassemble the figures, but I have no evidence to provee that I hope hasbro doesn't reuse this mold for Bludgeon, it doesn't fit him

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Man if they did then they are screwing us on Upgrade kits too.

[@MrSwindle]

I feel my opinion has changed, when doing my review i found newfound love for him

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm glad to hear that. Always a better that you love the things you buy.

[@robertg4122]

IM AND ACTUALLY OVER THE MOON WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE FOUND. Remember when I said I wanted a ss devavstor??? WELLLLLLLL, it has happened to be rumored it may be in the works late 2023 or maybe 2024. this makes me soooooo happy. I think they might all be Voyagers and hopefully not all leaders if they were tho, that would be interesting. Anywho ima just say one last thing, IT DOES FEEL GOOD TO BE RIGHT. I understand that now when you were right about a space wheeljack indefinitely coming pe.

[@robertg4122]

OH AND THEY ALL MIGHT BE 2 PACKS.

[@kingmagnus2672]

hey perspective, I'm trying to get into masterpiece transformers any recommendations

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Like are we Talkin TRUE Masterpiece. Or 3P as well. If we are Talkin Regular MP first and Foremost, Soundwave Soundwave Soundwave. One of the best figures of all time. Outside of that any of carbots like Wheeljack or Prowl are really good. I like the MP Hotrod. The Beast Wars MPs are also all for the most part really good. Obviously MP Skyfire is in there too. Then if there's 3P in the Mix, most things from MMC Rule, especially their Assaultus/Bruticus set. Each of those Rules. Make Toy's Megatron is great. In General Gigapower. Get the chromed versions if you can, ESPECIALLY the Grimlock, Swoop, or Snarl. Anything Transarts, except their Blackarachnia, and then also Get DS Blaster if that interests you.

[@kingmagnus2672]

@@PerspectiveEnd thank you I've decided I'll get the soundwave as a start then see where it goes from there.a thousand thanks Ps: your channel got me back into buying figures again thanks

[@ilikepigeons6101]

I can ruin Tarn for everyone by saying that Glitch got bigger by controlling a massive body of Tarn from the inside of the body's torso :) Jokes aside I'm glad that it seems the figure doesnt suffer from the QC issues that plagued the line

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean mine has a NASTY paint splatter on his right shin, but yes the QC here is mostly fine. And I didn't realize Glitch was a Load Bearer.

[@MrFedoraFilm]

When I heard that Legacy Evolution was going to have Tarn, I was excited. But when his figure was revealed, it was 50/50. His molded/sculpted design from head to toe and coloration all around is cool. But he looks 2-D, and not as big as I wish he was. He should have been taller, a leader class figure. And for his flat body to be more bulked up. That's just my opinion. I still got his Legacy Evolution figure anyways as he is an interesting character. Bleeding Decepticon allegiance and killing those who turn their backs on the Decepticon cause. -I would like to see Hasbro give us the rest of the Decepticon Justice Division to complete the team, but I think Tarn may be the only acceptable one, since the other characters are not family friendly. Maybe Nickel for core class would have a chance.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I definitely hope they do more of the IDW Characters especially the DJD, but man I wish this things shoulders were better, and bigger would make this thing cooler.

[@cyranantone8430]

Remember? Yes, the shoulders look terrible, and the body is aggressively thin, but I can help but love this thing. I think your problem is that your like an expert on tarn, so your general thoughts of him are perfect picture. So any flaw you see in his design will immediately stand out.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Of course. And man the shoulders kill me. I'm glad to hear you are enjoying this more than me. And that's exactly what I was thinking my self, the less familiar you are with the dude, the less you will notice the problems.

[@thedrifter5531]

i've gotta say, i think you were just being overall nitpicky with this, the height criticism is meh considering he's meant to be shorter then megatron and he is both shorter then siege and super megatron so he scales with megs, the shoulders are again a bit nitpicky, you can get him into good poses but i agree with there should've been 2 shoulder joints, the thinness i agree but its not anything bad the only complaints i personally had was the lightpiping which i fixed with a bit of metallic red paint

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It's what I feel man. You have no idea how much I want to love this thing, but I just can't. And that's funny because the lightpiping is one of the things I give this credit for. Really what ruins this for me is the shoulders.

[@thedrifter5531]

@@PerspectiveEnd the light piping for me made him look dead unless i had direct light above his head, so i painted it metalic red which gave a subtle glow effect, and the shoulders are kinda a minor issue, i agree they should've gone with a double jointed shoulder, but i don't think it ruins a overall pretty good figure

[@yonderjam]

Scourge is starting to arrive in places. I'll probably have it soon.

[@karateryguy1728]

Tarn Tarn Tarn. I don't care I want my Tarn. Even if he is small that is not stopping me.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope you like it more than me when you finally find it.

[@MassterF]

As much as he should have been his own mold, the Bludgeon version works SOOO much better its not even funny. Sure its not remotely accurate, but it has better colors imo, since its bludgeon and shouldn’t really have the shoulder treads, I actually removed the second treads on the shoulder, and since even if he had regular shoulders he would still have one tread thing above his head, now it actually looks tolerable. The sword also makes him look so much better, and with the posability you can get him in great poses with it. It also makes sense that the live swordsman would be kinda small and thin.

[@NewFerrett]

I feel like he was overhyped a bit. Its a great toy but it feels like people over exaggerated how good it was. I wish he was less flat

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Same. I want to love this so bad, and I just can't bring my self to.

[@Wallbeige]

I knew you weren't gonna like it lol, as usual and you can plug in the one cannon into the other for a big long rifle type thing

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Right! I forgot about the Cannon Stick. And I mean I could have liked this with different shoulders.

[@deborahdavid585]

I think they would've made him leader class if they were making figures for the entire djd but I don't think it's going to happen but I could be wrong

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope they make more of the DJD that would be awesome, and I'd have killed for this to be Leader Scale.

[@yonderjam]

Tarn looks like fun. Also, I forgot which deluxe of this wave hadn't got a Perspective End video... then I remembered Breakdown's existence.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah, I've not found a Breakdown honestly.

[@jazzelbailador]

I loved him, but I would preffer to get a leader size, really needed to be more big

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Agreed. I need Big!

[@shinkojima8903]

I think the fake toy wheels are there to prevent the tracks from scuffing up when pretending to roll it around. Also, thanks for "auricular". I actually learned something (English is not my first language).

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I think most native English Speakers have never heard of Auricular. And I think you are right about that, but why make them look like wheels? Why not just tabs or wedges?

[@shinkojima8903]

@@PerspectiveEnd My best guess is with them being rounded the surface area that's actually touching the ground is quite small, making for less friction.

[@marcy9743]

So I did some battle damage on my ss bumblebee ironhide and now somehow he looks… evil. Like he’s giving me high moon decepticon vibes now and I have no idea how or why

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Interesting. Do you have pics?

[@marcy9743]

@@PerspectiveEnd I do but I don’t like to show them because I feel like most wouldn’t like them

[@maxchaos44]

I thihnk this is a good toy, but I'm kinda glad I bought the iron factory one to scale with my newage megatron

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Is the IF one a big legends figure?

[@maxchaos44]

@@PerspectiveEnd I think it's just a bit bigger than my Megatron.

[@amazingbog4916]

I was excited for this guy but even when he was first shown off I thought he looked really scrawny.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I didn't notice till it was in hand.

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

He a cool looking dude, but I find it hard to take a Megatron simp yandere fanboy seriously.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That's one way to look at him, and if you do, I can see why it's hard to take him seriously.

[@santocaputo2965]

They could have easily made this have a body shape of jhiaxus

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Exactly.

[@jacobhorn95]

Sorry to hear the figure let you down, great review though!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Thank you. I wish I loved this thing so much.

[@JuanPablo-su6vw]

Finally, a toy of my favorite character from transformers....cyberverse

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I know how you are taunting me.

[@ColdTRex]

I could see a knockoff company make an upscale of this lad

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope so, but only if they fix the shoulders.

[@15oClock]

Had Tarn been this year's commander class, maybe it would've fixed some of your issues.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I don't think he needed to be quite that big.

[@TheGreatSoundwave]

I don’t really notice how flat he is especially when in a pose and as for the shoulders, when it’s something like Kingdom Hot Rod where they go over his head and don’t look like they’re attached to the body then I hate it But on Tarn I think it looks fine

[@PerspectiveEnd]

See I think they very much don't look like they are attached to his body, and they feel so RESTRICTIVE it's hard to put into words. I keep trying to move his arm's ways that just don't work.

[@0pt1tr0nD27]

Who know maybe a 4th party company will knock this off and upscale it

[@PerspectiveEnd]

And that could help, but if they don't change the shoulders it's still not going to fix this thing to me. The Shoulders are the most important thing.

[@noir6467]

This is like the most dissapointing figure I've had in years. Hyped to the max by everyone but its just... alright. While the size of it is actually correct and I'm fine with it, the fact he feels like a cardboard cutout of Tarn bothers the fuck out of me, as in it only looks nice from the front but from the sides looks skinny as heck for a guy this buff. And I finally get when you say that light pipping sucks cuz this guy has the worst ever, and made more insulting by the fact it only iluminates when looking at it from the side on natural lights. On top of all mine came with atrocious QC on the leg joints that just soured my whole experience with it.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

What's funny is I actually think this is one of the few explicable uses for light piping. Yeah it's so weird how flat this is, though I will say that it bothers me the most with the shoulders. What's wrong with your's legs?

[@noir6467]

@@PerspectiveEnd the legs on mine are floppy as hell, and thanks to Hasbro's dumb decison to pin the entirety of the figure it became impossible to disassemble the pieces to give the joints a coat of clear nail polish, and I can't return it because it's not possible to do returns of opened toys here where I live and he's sold out everywhere.

[@jeanfrancozaratemarcial7916]

This is the only case of where I think some of your standards are WAAAY to high my friend. I'm not saying that there isn't anything to critique this figure for (I agree with the shoulders, that's a little shame). But that alone shouldn't weight down the figure of the things that does EXTREMELY right, this voyager is one of the best we got in a long ass time, and to nearly rip it to shreds I think may be discouraging to the people who made this thing (in case they watch videos from the community, doubt it tho) and may lead Hasbro to not giving a damn like they usually do. Still, great video and review, but I think we should know when to actually criticize.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It's not my standards. I just think the shoulders are UNBEARABLY HIDEOUS. If it weren't for the shoulders even with the size, I'd say this is like a 9 out of 10. See the thing is, that the Shoulders ruin everything this does right. I never think this looks cool because of those shoulders. Every pose I put it in looks dumb to me. I don't think I ripped it to shreds, I tried to mention how just about everything else is good. I even cut in an extra section praising the Mafia Elbows use as forwards butterflies. Man I can't disagree more. The shoulder Criticism is all I can think of when looking at this thing, nothing else. It was something I felt had to be said.

[@nicholasstensson9699]

Tarn is the only guy who can wear his faction logo on his face and not make it look cringe Looking at you ROTB scourge

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It helps that the Decepticon Faction Logo looks way cooler.

[@Trashtox]

@@PerspectiveEnd Hello,Perspective end!Do you think Lio Prime is worth it or not?

[@heartlessnobody1143]

​@@PerspectiveEnd it also doesn't help at ALL that other than the classic badges, the only good one was the of predacons, even the maximals kinda sucks in my opinion

[@PlatinumKnight-je3vy]

@@PerspectiveEnd apparently ROTB Scourge is able to remove his mask similar to Tarn.

[@cillianstewart9441]

@@heartlessnobody1143 Which Predacons?

[@zenerstorm95]

Well...I wasn't expecting that. Out of all the things to complain about, I never would've expected the size and the damn width of the figure. I've heard so many people praise how thin this guy is and that he has zero kibble, which in of itself is a miracle. But the sagging elbows really do kill it for me. I did fix mine with super glue so they are at least sturdy enough to hold his cannon up, but the fact that I had to do that combined with the fact that Hasbro decided that THIS figure of all of Legacy needed gap fillets for EVERYTHING made it so annoying. Hollowness isn't bad because it let's you fix figures like this. And if not, just give us screws that we can take out. I do like this thing, but I think I like it more for the acknowledgement of the character than the actual toy.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

To be fair that's not my real issue. My real issue is just those damn shoulders. It should have been bigger. The character is a bigger one in the comics, so there's no reason for it to be below average, but it's the Shoulders. It's all them. Everything else was forgivable.

[@TheFallen-ff4xn]

That’s the thing he’s TOO thin there’s too much of a good thing he has not kibble because he is the kibble

[@PlatinumKnight-je3vy]

This is for sure one of the best voyagers Hasbro’s come out with, there’s no denying that! Tarn is such a solid figure, everything from the quality to the paint is amazing and grade A. Hope Hasbro makes more DJD members because we not the entire set!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I think I kind of denied that. I want to love it so bad but I cant. But yes the paint is off the charts.

[@Blakhulk79]

@perspectiveend keep up the good work over here in the UK we love your videos

[@nerd7834]

@@plazma75Dang you got to hell? How’s the weather down there?

[@plazma75]

@@Blakhulk79 His videos suck.

[@plazma75]

@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah. Go to hell.

[@AFCManUk]

Perspective, have you got your hands on the new Legacy Shrapnel yet? Apart from his slightly skinny waist and typically simple enough transformation, he's SOOOOOO good!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I have not located that yet. I didn't even know it was out.

[@SymphonyDemons]

I love Legacy Shrapnel so much, even though like you said the transformation is simple, it still feels to me like there is so much more going on compared to kickback. My only issue with him is the complete lack of heels means he really likes falling over if you have him in the wrong pose. I just wish I had more blast effect pieces since he is just covered in ports, but I only have what came with the titans and commanders. Also praise the lack of energon weapon that has to sit off to the side but is still needed to gap fill the alt mode like kickback's thorax "blades"

[@MRanger04]

GameStop

[@adrianesaffell9296]

This tarn is in my top 10 this year like the way it looks gives me vibes that I doesn't look like it can transform and yet it can I don't mind the transformation but this I have to say is the best transformers figure done by Hasbro and best decepticon with out a doubt.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'd agree, if it weren't for the shoulders. It's so close to amazing, but those shoulders just kill it for me.

[@Nathaniel_dino2008-jz6gv]

@@PerspectiveEnd well congrats you had black heart

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

I never really liked how edgy the IDW comics were but I loved Tarn. The way he went from faux class to full brutality without warning added so much tension to every book he appeared in. His interactions with Megatron were some of my favorite in all Transformers. When I see a Tarn I’m getting him, even if he’s not the flawless diamond the character deserves.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I didn't really see IDW as Edgy, not more than most comic books. All Hail Megatron was Edgy but most of it was normal, and I think all hail was like that because it was trying to be like the movies. Thing is this could have been so close to flawless if it weren't for those shoulders.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

@@PerspectiveEnd My introduction to the series was Spotlight Megatron, the DJD, and Arcee’s godawful origin story. There’s a chance I’ve just stumbled into all of the darkest parts of the universe but everything I’ve seen has been pretty edgy. No shade I’d you like that kind of thing, it’s just not for me.

[@nintendoconvert4045]

Slim build aside, he looks excellent. Both modes are quite clean and he looks plenty menacing. Also, Mafia elbows 😂

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Glad you are liking it more than me.

[@nintendoconvert4045]

@@PerspectiveEnd I didn’t pick him up, but I might.

[@danielmedela8725]

1- Grimlock is just smaller in IDW than in G1, though... and Tarn wasn´t as big as him, Tesarus and Helex were. Always thought that a good Tarn figure should be a voyager that was slightly smaller than Megatron (maybe a comparison with Siege Megs is needed here) while Helex and Tesarus are leader class (Grimlock size) Kaon is a large deluxe with lots of panneling to sit a voyager Optimus on his electric chair mode, Vos a core class/battlemaster so Tarn can wield it in his sniper mode, then core class Nickel. Oh, and micromaster Pet Ambus. 2- Isn´t Overlord the one that scares the Autobots the most, or Sixshot? Tarn isn´t even a phase-sixer... it scares other decepticons the most, that is true. This actually would scale fine with titans return Overlord... 3- In the website TFSafari there´s already an upgrade kit for Tarn, and it includes pannels to hide away his hands in alt-mode.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

1 Grimlock isn't big in G1, he's the same size as Optimus, and I posted a picture of him in IDW where you can see his scale in comparison to regular sized dudes. Multiple Regular Dudes could ride on his back. 2 Tarn is a Phase Sixer. He took the super fuel, and if you remember he was introduced Killing a Phaze Sixer. 3 Hopefully there's one for the shoulders because that's really what kills it for me.

[@danielmedela8725]

@@PerspectiveEnd Tarn is not a phase sixer... it´s not the super fuel that made them such, but the alloy in their underskeleton. As for how they killed BlackShadow, well, phase sixers aren´t immune to Tarn´s voice, and its first effect is paralysis. As for the Glitch/Roller switch... I mean, it´s not the only fail of the saga, and not my main issue. My main issue is Anode, and how she should have needed Rung´s crystal to fix Lug, and how that whole thing did not carry any consequences for her. I can see why Roller wouldn´t be it, as he´s a point one percenter and not a member of Shockwave Xavier´s school for gifted youngsters, and it somehow feels like an evolution of Glitch power. As for empurata being unfixable... the only 2 characters that we´ve confirmed had it done to them besides Gltich are Shockwave, who was too short on emotions to care to fix it, and Whirl, who seems like he never got actual hands instead of claws because he wanted to keep being angry at the universe. And also, cared more about his clock-making hands than his face.

[@rubiconprime1429]

Huh. I only remembered Tarn being the same size as Megatron, not as big as Grimlock. I thought Crucible and the melter guy were the ones that big. Who’s ready for leader class Crucible?!

[@gabrieletraini3849]

Because as a matter of fact he isn’t as big as grimlock or overlord, he’s megatron sized.

[@rubiconprime1429]

It would have been really funny if this figure had had the best transformation ever so people wanted to do it over and over to represent Tarn’s transforming addiction

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Except we see in the comic him Fight Grimlock in hand to hand and he was as tall as Grimlock and Beefier. We also can see by the Roller image I posted in this video what his size would be in comparison to Pax. Even if we discount roller being Tarn, it'd be a bad miss direct if he was smaller than the guy they were misdirecting to.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean in the first comic where Tarn shows up, he fights Grimlock in hand to hand so you can get a good comparison to his size.

[@thecodfather6280]

@@PerspectiveEnd yeah, but that’s his first appearance, that can always be chalked up to early instalment weirdness. In everything else I can find, he’s slightly shorter than Megatron. Just look at his, Megatron and Overlord’s confrontation. A scene were they’re just talking is a far more accurate depiction of scale in my opinion, and if you were expecting a grimlock sized figure out the voyager price point, frankly you were bound for disappointment. He is far too thin though, that’s definitely true.

[@MyKokushiboDrawing]

Tarn is the embodyment of horror. And he is smaller than Optimus prime? Cmon hasbro, if they make an oversized version I will not hesitate for a second to buy it.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Same, though I'd hope an Oversized version would have better shoulders.

[@L0rdskywarp]

I have a way that this could have been fucking perfect. 1: Make his shoulders normal 2: Make him the height of Kingdom Galvatron 3: Stick his backpack and calves out to make him have more depth 4: Add an alternate head with the mask off 5: Add an ab crunch 6: Have the hands flip away in alt mode 7: *slightly* darker purple 8: Charge leader price That would be literally perfect

[@PerspectiveEnd]

While I would like most of those, I think the only one that was NEEDED was #1.

[@randomautobotprime360]

Actually I remember in TFnation Manchester can’t remember who but the guy who designed Tarantulas was there and said he just made the designs and didn’t really know how they would transform and I was like “Dam third party designers must hate this guy” Also he did mention something about Earthspark Tarantulas

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah Tarantulas cheats by having his groin be a different color than should be possible.

[@diabolos5382]

So I'm going to be honest I never really liked Tarn as a character he just came of as a child would realized his hero was shit and became a cry baby over it. But I do love the DJD (please give me Voss, please give me Voss hasbro ) and this figure looks amazing I wish it was bigger and maybe if hasbro is smart we can get a comic book fallen out of this guy. (Not counting on it, though)

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I look at it as a guy who built his whole life around this idea that Megatron was right, and every terrible thing he did in Megatron's name was just because of it, only to for Megatron to change sides and say they were always in the wrong, and to order the war over, and them to surrender. Everything he'd ever worked for was a Lie, and it all amounts to nothing, now report to prison please.

[@dedalionarts6077]

Sooo, in other words, it's good, BUUUUT in your eyes, it could been GREAT with view fixes here and there. And as for the question of the video ... From the DJD, who is your LEAST favorite member and why?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Hard to say honestly. If I had to actually try to articulate it, it's probably Great, but in my eyes TERRIBLE because those shoulders are so hideous. Helix. His head is creepy and weird. Cool otherwise.

[@Directo13]

Yeah! That's one of my complaints. Tarn should have been taller like 7.5 to 8in tall and beefier! Also yeah. IDW crapped the bed changing roller to glitch, just because the plot twist was seen two miles away!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Like I didn't even need this thing to be giant. All I ask is that at MINIMUM it is Normal for the size class. I'd like bigger than that, but I don't require it.

[@DiggitySlice]

I found him at Target but they wanted $44.99 for some reason, so I wound up ordering him from Pulse. I feel like the fake wheels are a cost cutting measure from some galaxy brain at Hasbro who doesn't know how treads work.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah someone else told me he rang up for 44.99 and that's weird.

[@anthonygvergara4778]

I've been wanting to get this but the only thing that holds me back is the size. I'm not a scale nut but I agree tarn should be a big ass boy. I feel like they just didn't want to make him bigger than megatron or the same size as him, it's weird. Also it's so obvious it was roller it's painful they switched it to glitch. I've been reading the comics and haven't even finished them yet and even tho Ik it's glitch it's all pointing to roller in the most obvious non obvious way. One of idws misses with that reveal but tarn is still amazing

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah, it's blatantly obvious to the point where you have to question how they thought it was going to be a secret in the first place.

[@yoy5903]

Probably one of the best or the best voyager ever, only thing lacking is the alt mode but it's accurate so that's really just nitpicking. Thanks for the review perspectiveend!

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I wish I felt the same, though I suppose on an Objective level you are probably right, and it's just the shoulders bugging me personally.

[@skylynx3227]

Yeah the theory about Roller being Tarn makes more sense than Tarn being Glitch mostly because he claims the talk killing was a skill not a evolution of his point one percenter spark

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Also why would Glitch gaining mass make him look like Roller?

[@ilikejeremiahlasky5610]

the figure is great, he’s just too small man. i hope like a good KO company comes along and makes an oversized version

[@PerspectiveEnd]

In my opinion he'd be great with better shoulders.

[@familieadriaenssens1422]

Hey perspective just broke my finger in an accident when I was playing football/soccer😢.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Ouch, sorry to hear that that sucks.

[@gleamingcolt]

I don’t know how Tarn is so hard to find nowadays, but I NEED this guy, j can handle the fact that he is not the size of Grimlock, but I feel this is the best CHUG version of the Tarn (and the only one) but how and why is he so rare, I can’t find him

[@PerspectiveEnd]

He was hard to find when he was out normally. It was really frustrating.

[@gleamingcolt]

@@PerspectiveEnd Eugh

[@stiglapoint5672]

Man size isn’t everything. Yes I’m very aware that Tarn is big and intimidating but this is also a great Voyager sized toy. Really the only thing I do agree with are the shoulders which give me Hot Rod PTSD but overall this is the best figure Legacy has produced

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I said that my self, but his size feels limp, and it's not even to scale. And the shoulders are really my main issue, I was just voicing the things I was noticing in the order that I noticed them. And I can't agree to that when BW Megatron is in the same line.

[@ColdTRex]

So it’s like ER Optimus Prime where he is good but you just don’t like it?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Pretty much yeah, and I want to love this so hard.

[@elpotato5011]

I’m just happy they didn’t fuck with the design like the Prime and Animated figures.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Size is a Bit inconsistent, but you can see in Rollers Bio that I showed in this video, what his size is compared to Orion Paxes, so that's the minimum for how big he could be. However we do see in his First on panel appearance when they wreck the Scavengers, he fights Grimlock, and they are of equal size, and he Dominates Grimlock, who was mentally impaired at the time, but none the less he didn't know that and was disappointed that Grimlock couldn't even put up any kind of fight, because he was hoping that Grimlock could be even remotely a good time. And Tarn is shown to be a coward if the thinks he could lose, so the fact that he didn't try to cheat and actually wanted a fight shows that he's supremely confident that Grimlock isn't a threat to him even at full strength. But this was a Question about size, and in that fight Tarn was bigger than Grimlock.

[@bytisoli]

This truly is a connundrum, yea, he felt really flat to me in his robot mode, but I wasn't really bothered by it, cause I wasn't planning on getting him anyways. But you know how you can "justify it"? You can atribute it to Legacy's goal to chuggify/g1-ify the characters, so, for tarn, they took away his hulking nature. But that might still not work, for you, even if it's a thing.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

That doesn't really address my main issue though, and that's just that those shoulders are hideous.

[@bytisoli]

​@@PerspectiveEnd well, I wasn't addressing that main issue.

[@koalatime6664]

I just got him today after paying way too much on Hasbro pulse, and I absolutely love him, my only problems are that his cannon doesn't lock in on his arm and his knee pads stick out in his alt mode. Also his eyes are hard to see and I wish his mask could come off. He is now one of my favorite figures ever.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm happy to hear that you don't feel the same way I do. Awesome that you enjoy it so much.

[@clunk2824]

I am so glad Hasbro finally acknowledges IDW characters in this year. So far, aside from the thinness, I do really like this figure - that said I do get your issues with the figure. Half wondering if we'll ever get the other DJD, though I imagine Vos is gonna have his alt mode changed (unless the dual fusion cannons on Tarn are meant to reference Vos' rifle mode).

[@Cdr2002]

I’m not saying it’s not treat that we’re getting him but they’ve acknowledged IDW characters before now: several generations figures based on IDW designs for starters, Drift getting brought into the toyline at lightning speed, and more recently stuff like TR Nautica and the little battlemaster Rung

[@Roboshi2007]

I also doubt an electric chair would be allowed as an alt mode

[@Cdr2002]

@@Roboshi2007 it’s not an electric chair, it’s a “cyber-shock chair” 😉

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope they do the other memebers, outside if it being hard to make Vos I don't see them having a reason to not.

[@ThomasKarisko]

oh i love it tarn is my favorite character in idw so i will 100 percent find one and maybe a whats the best tarn

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I hope when you do, you love it more than I do.

[@aaroncheda1680]

I think the only reason tarn isn’t as buff is for possibility and the transformation Let’s be honest there is no way they can make perfect panel accuracy with a voyager class price. if it was a commander class maybe. Question in transformers Cybertron we see that they are technically our transformers TV shows. What do you think they watch? because to me the only thing that pops into my mind is a version of Judge Judy, but with tarn.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm not asking for him to be hyper buff or anything, I just need him to be at MINIMUM normal voyager scale. What are technically our Transformers shows? Like what kind of Cybertronian TV would there be? I assume just normal stuff.

[@mrd00mguy81]

@@PerspectiveEnd he is. He is a normal Voyager Size.

[@TransformersFanCo328]

Didn't think I could agree with you more here. I mean, I'm overall happy with him, but I, too, found him oddly flat and weirdly small for the kind of character he's supposed to be. Oh, and the "mafia" elbows are frustratingly too loose for my liking, especially with the cannon attached. I like him overall thanks to his otherwise awesome look, fantastic posability, and enjoyable transformation into a quite good alt mode, but I found myself more impressed with Lio Convoy at the end of the day. That one legitimately blows the Masterpiece out of the water.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm glad that I could voice your frustrations here.

[@thesardonicrenegade]

Damn it you're making me jealous. I'm still gonna be picking this guy up, but MMC is tormenting me with the fact that their Kultur technically scales with the mainline. And I have no doubt there's gonna be an oversized ko of this guy in the future

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Why am I making you jealous? Yeah it's funny that thats true, when they were going out of their way to try and not. I hope there is one, and it fixes the shoulders.

[@Blind_Prime]

Never knew Tarn was spose to be that big. Then again none of the comic book people on this site have ever really talked scale. I am still floored that in more than meets the eye Fortress Maximus can be on the ship. How I ask? I understand that they can shrink themselves somewhat but I didnt think the Titans could shrink themselves down to regular transformer size. How did he fit in the ship?! This has been bothering me since I found out about it in 2020 or so. I really like my Tarn and I guess part of that liking is that I have no clue what he looked like in the comics. Mainly because I think we are the only two youtubers whom care about scale. lol😊

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Fortress Maximus in IDW isn't a Titan, He's just a regular guy. He's about the size of Tarn. I feel like others care about scale more than me. But yes Tarn is supposed to be Huge. Kaon is about the size of One of Tarns legs in the Comics.

[@animeking1357]

A shame he wasn't as good as you hoped. I got Legacy RID Scourge come yesterday and although I haven't transformed him yet (mostly because I'm lazy and partially because I'm terrified of breaking any of my figures) his truck mode is godly. I absolutely love trucks with trailers. It's part of the reason I want Earthrise Optimus so bad.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Oh man that thing does look soooooo good in truck mode, it's one of the things best features. The Trailer is well done too as opposed to the ER one.

[@animeking1357]

@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah the trailer is sick. Love the amount of detail.

[@KodyCrimson]

To be fair, guys don't have to be big to be intimidating. Just look at Frieza's first and last forms in Dragon Ball. You don't have to be big, but show you're a threat. Tarn is intimidating because of the stories of the carnage he and his forces bring, his reputation. But size does help.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I mean I don't think Frieza is actually intimidating when he gets smaller, I think his first two forms were more intimidating, and he only starts getting intimidating again when he bulks up. But I understand your point.

[@stitchproductions3258]

Here’s hoping we get some kind of Upscaled KO of this figure cause I’m not paying over 300 bucks for the MMC one.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Understandable, and yes I hope for an OSKO one but only if it fixes the shoulders.

[@mctankies]

I managed to pick up a Buzzworthy Bumblebee Jazz today, and a neat little ROTB Skullcruncher that transforms from Crocodile to a cannon for larger figures. Also dang, I heard nothing but praise for this figure.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

How are you liking those things? Based on the comments I'm getting on this video, I'm voicing the frustrations of many people.

[@runamuck840]

The legs can go all the way out you just have to pull a bit more than normal because of the hip skirts and the fake wheels are there to stop paint chipping they probably ran out of budget to put actual ones on him

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm just worried about damaging the hip skirt if you try.

[@runamuck840]

@@PerspectiveEnd I've tried lots of times the hip skirt just rotates out of the way

[@thelunchloser2474]

I was able to get Tarn a bit early winning him from a raffle but after receiving around December, I just haven’t touched him since. Many of the points you’ve discussed is what I found problems with the figure. I was so excited when he was announced but I wish he was sooo much better. My favorite figure from the wave is Lio Convoy/Prime and I haven’t stopped messing with him since I got him.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I'm sad to say, that I also Prefer Lio Prime.

[@legoawcstopmotioner9435]

I was never able to find this thing. I was pretty bummed about that. While I'm not that familiar with the IDW comics (although I have started watching MTMTE comic dubs,) I think the designs are really cool. Maybe it's for the best that I missed him though. Now I can get Black Mamba's oversized version.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Alex Milne's Designs Rule so hard.

[@jinxedreviews]

Like you, I'm lukewarm with this figure. I love the design, he's literally perfect looking. He is fun to mess around with, but tiny. Galvatron towers above him, which he shouldn't. He's good, but not perfect

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah, and honestly for me it's all the shoulders, I could have tollerated the scale and called this excellent if it weren't for the shoulders.

[@thelazyengibot9918]

I ironically had the opposite issue trying to get this guy. I ordered him on Amazon UK, and he wasn't to ship until March. Then wave 1 released in February. I decided to wait for Tarn, thinking it would be worth it. My two Scraphooks arrived ahead of schedule, but Tarn was nowhere in sighed. When the Date for him to ship came, It Didn't. I was passing my local toy store, went fuck it, and bought him and canceled my order I agree with everything tbh, He could have been taller and wider and those shoulders drive me mad. Rn, I have him crushing a Strafe i had and holding the Matrix chain in a power stance and I think thats how he will stay I still love him to death, but he ain't perfect

[@PerspectiveEnd]

It sounds like you managed to get him into something cooler than I've been able to figure out. God I wish the shoulders were better, everything else was forgivable.

[@NeilBlumengarten]

I agree. I don't get the hype. It's a good figure, there's no denying that. But he does nothing interesting, the lack of wheels screams, "We know why you bought him and this mode ain't it," and he feels flat (I was considering that word as you said it in the video, so I'm glad I'm not out of left field).

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Yeah I wanted to come up with another word for it, but it's all I could think of. Instead I made it sound like he's not amply endowed in the chest area.

[@Sbungo61]

i mean, Tarn was around megatron's height in the comic. This is a voyager so it's how he should be

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Here's the thing. Megatron was the same height as Ultra Magnus in the comics. Megatron was a GIANT in IDW.

[@Sbungo61]

@@PerspectiveEnd no not really, ultra magnus was the same size as Optimus. Megatron was no giant

[@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb]

Definitely a really good Voyager figure recently, and the best figure of Wave 1 Honestly Hasbro has been killing it with Voyagers nowadays, most of the time Nice review! Also I'm seeing Legacy Evo Wave 2 around now. Aside from Crashbar who I'm definitely getting, any recommendations?

[@PerspectiveEnd]

I don't know, I've enjoyed figures from wave 1 more, but who knows if I broke it down category by category then he may be the best.

[@haydenhowell9277]

I just got legacy tarn yesterday and im truly disappointed I mean the figure itself its fine but my copy has too many loose joints Especially the thigh joints. They literally move when ever i blow on them hard. Thats how loose they are Also no i don't think i have any polish to tighten the joints at all But either way i don't even think i can access the joints inside because the thigh joints don't have screws and have those damn pins And keep in mind the legacy bludgeon i got was never like this. Infact the only loose part is those arm panels. But yeah I'm not happy with tarn. It it's loose i no use

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Sorry to hear you feel much the same way as me. Mining doesn't suffer from the loose joints however, outside of the inner elbows. And yes the pins are infuriating.

[@humanpersonthatpersonslike6381]

Finally got the cyber verse version of the mold along side bludgeon and while I love this figure I think it would have been sick if it was a leader or even commander size with the lobotomized dogformer from the comic if a commander, I can’t remember it’s name but it would be a sick deep cut on lore

[@PerspectiveEnd]

You speak of Dominus Ambus, and if this was a little bit beefier, with better shoulders I could agree to that.

[@stephenmiller4091]

I found a Tarn at my local Target but ended up leaving him there. For whatever reason he scanned for $45. Wasn't sure if maybe this was just the next inflation step up in prices overall, or just a one off pricing system F'up.

[@PerspectiveEnd]

Nah, you should have taken it to the register and pointed out that the price was wrong and that it should have been 30 dollars as a Voyager.

[@INSIDEVIEWOFYOURMOTHER77]

Try Gamestop $34.99

[@stephenmiller4091]

@@PerspectiveEnd I thought about doing that. Even grabbed a Jhaxus and started towards the register. But as i walking that way i started listing the cons. He's small, He's so very flat, and i already have a MMC Kultur. Just wasn't worth it. Sidenote: There were about ten Junkheaps there. I think he'll be the next voyager shelfwarmer plague.