Legendary Feedback On The Nokta Makro Legend: Iron, VDI & Pinpoint

[@jimcollins9999]

I gotta say Sir, your videos are now dominating 95% of my KZbin viewing, and that really says to me, that you're doing awesome things. I'm not even watching my boot or vehicle reviews anymore. Lol

[@CindyBushell]

Turn ON your pinpointer when already sticking it into the wet & it won’t go off like yours does. Makes a huge difference!

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Will try thank you

[@michaelpacnw2419]

Thanks for that tip. I'll be beach detecting this week on a heavily mineralized beach.

[@jimcollins9999]

It's been over a year, and I was wondering if Nokta has fixed the issue with the positive iron bias yet? Also, have they revised the headphones switch? Thank You.

[@seancornell9745]

Oil lamp top the slot is where the wick comes up.

[@readytorebel]

Got a good chuckle out of the ring find “The Love is real… the ring isn’t “ good video. Thanks

[@ecks_marks_the_spot]

Thanks Merrill. I'm so emotionally invested in the Legend that I didn't want to hear negative reviews about it but you are right about the VDI shifts. I spent hours on Sunday digging in wet sand and the numbers were constantly changing after I dug up the target. Even worse, they would disappear if the target ended up being iron. I get that a detector might initially misinterpret a signal but don't discriminate it out once I dig it up. That makes me think I turned it on edge and dig even more. Most of the deep signals were not giving me a ferrous reading so I dug up a lot of disappearing iron targets; very frustrating. I'm confident Nokta Makro will eventually fix all these issues but in the meantime, your feedback is extremely helpful and validating.

[@brianwolf9647]

I’m in the market to move beyond my Simplex. I need to know when these issues are fixed.

[@MrNetjunky]

I wish you had Irate site up before I started 6 years ago :) I have had nearly as many detectors as you! now i'm down to Apex (bad), Simplex (ok), Nox800 (great), Deus 2 (still learning)

[@MrGordonSean]

1st day 4 rings, my first ring. One gold. This will be it's name after the update.... Good video. We like your videos and fairness. Actually got Simplex and Legend because of your talk about their listening to users. Keep up great videos...

[@jss309]

I got my Legend yesterday. Thank you!

[@bigcladwolfdetecting6017]

27:20 is part of a lantern feed for a flat braided wick

[@newbietones]

My coworker just got this detector. I gave it a quick once over. Seems like a more affordable copycat NOX800. Very very similar to an Equinox. I do like the hand grip and the flashlight on the back of it though. The handgrip is 10x better than the NOX. Way more comfortable.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Agreed! The Nox has the proven name but the Legend is legit and the value might be there

[@PedalHeadz]

The piece with the slot in it looks like the top of an oil lateren where the wick come up and out slot maybe.....?

[@MrBottlecapBill]

I agree, a switch on the headphones is a problem. I hated that about the old ones and while they did go with bluetooth as I was adamant about on facebook, they kept that damn switch. The good news is, this machine is blue tooth compatible. I'd probably just pick up some nice ear buds for beach hunting anyway and also use them for music on my phone etc. The ID on deep items is very interesting. I find the NM machines are a lot more shape oriented. Meaning if a coin is on edge it rings in way different. Once you dig it up and lay it flat sure it sounds good, I think that it the issue. My NM Kruzer oddly enough has a setting for ID depth. You can pick shallow or deep and I always run it on deep. It's much better that way but I wonder why that option isn't on the Legend? Probably due to multi frequency. Anyway I think it's the same issue the NOX had at first with the silver rings not IDing on edge. Just a tweek needed but that being said, all machines suffer at depth especially on the beach because........the substrait under the soil is constantly changing and throwing off the ground balance. I personally find auto tracking problematic in my area but I have no idea if auto or manual ground balance is better on the beach. As for the small targets, if you saw Iffy's other video where he drops the iron tone break(not discrimination) down to 7 and the iron bias issue almost vanishes, then that's what you should do with the Legend. The new update drops it to 10 but that's still too high for small gold in my opinion. I'd drop the tone break to 7 which will kick out most nails and ground but not smaller mid conductors. You can go a bit higher if you must but try to run it as low as possible. Then set your salt stability as low as it can go. Reactivity based on your conditions I suppose. I was actually shocked that you were hitting more targets at a higher reactivity . Those beaches don't see to be that loaded in trash but I could be wrong.

[@windage]

kerosene lantern wick cover at 27:22..love the vids, just ordered the Legend on sale at kellyco...$509

[@thomasfromcalvertco3833]

Cindy Lee B - Cinz is correct, turn on pinpointer while submerged and it will only sound if there's a legit target in the hole. I guess it's a ground balance thing. Love the vids, keep 'em comin...go go go!

[@scrapiron6870]

The current machines of interest xp deus2, minelab 800, and notka makro legend if you can focus on the totality of these machines they seem to be the top 3 thanks merril you do great job

[@dukedenarie5858]

That’s the top to an old lantern where the wick comes out. Now you’re in my territory. Cellar holes lol.

[@billem3085]

I dont ever see you respond in the comments so I dont know if you will read this. The issue with the Legend isn't separation. In fact, it separates better than the nox. The issue is with down averaging of targets. When both targets are in the same sweep, the software down averages the VDI into the iron range. Thats why all you hear is iron. IF you move the tone break down to 7(Iffy's updated video), it provides a good tone. I suspected it was a down averaging issue when I was seeing air tests done and VDI numbers were more stable then ground targets with trash in close proximity. They can fix this with the right formula for averaging in the software. They can also eliminate more EMI with some software filters in conjunction with the correct VDI averaging formula.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Sorry I always try my best too. I have been getting more than I can handle lately. Honestly I don’t know anything about down averaging. What is the source of this information? I would love to study up on it. I agree now that the issue is not separation but respectfully disagree about the Legend separating better than the Nox. You even have a shot with objects on top of each other with the Nox. What I am seeing is slight problems in the presence of iron. I have a video coming out where the Nox hits a silver signal and the Legend does not. This is the only one out of 30 tries that the legend has not matched the equinox. Iron was present in this test.

[@markeddiford3432]

Your unknown object is a paraffin heater Wick cover that helps regulate the flame.

[@dannybell926]

Dude, you got freaking mint Conestoga bell... do you know how far back those go? Way back!!!

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Wow! I had no idea!!!!

[@ohiofredl]

Do the legend headphones 🎧 hook up with equinox? There post saying they and work nice always looking for decent headphones. Nice finds great vids. I have 9 detectors and about 3 coils for each 10 more I catch up to you.Been detecting for about 20 years.Good luck unlock the gold.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

This video we uncover an issue with the design of the Legend headphones

[@Ferrous_Bueller]

There are much better Equinox headphone options for cheaper.

[@kimberlymccloud8955]

Thanks Merrill, for the preview and the new song. I needed a mood adjustment. Feeling much better. 😁

[@claude7987]

Nice job ! i almost bought the Legend last week, but after your review i am happy that i chose the Equinox 800 !!

[@roy8460]

Thanks for your honest opinion on this Nokta Makro legend , it is a reasonable priced Machine, I'm looking for a water detector and that will do the job providing you can use it underwater like the at-pro and I believe you can,' Can't you ?? Thanks again Merrill.

[@81396xman]

Pizza is back. You probably already know that, but you should order a tostada on a pizza shell. Used to work at TB, and that is my favorite item.

[@rocketsroc]

Merrill the new rapper detectionist!

[@PinkPowerAllyTreasureHunter]

Had my first spin Saturday till I drew blood 🩸 lol Factory settings… no headphones… haven’t read anything… sunshine and warmer weather so why not!! I absolutely love the balance…. I had 2 diff Pennie’s at 10”+ and WOW !!! Loud and solid!! So far first peace is the cable connections to connect coil and charging…. But if a pain but open minds and I’ll get use to it!!

[@dukedenarie5858]

You city park guys should come up to ulster county and try the parks up here. I’m real curious to see what you can pull. I’m not typically a park hunter. Reason being is that there really are not THAT many detectorists as compared what u have.

[@fredclemons8923]

Nice video Merrill, will catch you on the next one. 🇺🇸

[@KenLord]

27:30 it's part of a lantern, a wide wick would go through that slot hole.

[@undernetjack]

Good call.

[@0Logan05]

The “H.A.Goodman” of Metal Detecting..😉👍🏼..AWSOME!..

[@rockerdad2]

The diwali item is actually the top of an oil lamp. yup the wick goes thrrough the hole.

[@tomsrivermetaldetectorpage5517]

Any updates on what our favorite teacher thinks of the Legend? CHOW!

[@dukedenarie5858]

I’m really debating getting the legend, owning the nox 8 and the D2. Is there anything it can do that the both of them can’t? I strongly doubt it but I’m seeing this lack of iron falsing and in certain areas may be better than the nox but in those areas the D2 is sick,so… Anyway I just can’t believe how incredibly good the ID on the D2 is at depth. It’s kind of insane to have a scale go up to 99 and have it ring up the same exact number as it did 10” down. But you and Paystreak basically are going to tell me if i have to spend another 600 dollars lol.

[@thomasalison6188]

Great review! Do you plan on testing the Quest detectors, they seem like they are being well received so far?

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Probably not yet. They are on my radar but I haven’t seen anyone use those in the field.

[@thomasalison6188]

Yeah, they don't seem to have caught on here in the U.S, most of the videos I see about them are in England/Europe......

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

@@thomasalison6188 I’m a big believer in the utility of simultaneous multi frequency. The lowest SMF is the vanquish 340. Same price as the most popular Quest model

[@airnashville3883]

I believe the bell is an "anchor bell" used in boating

[@dusty1498]

Looks like a Conestoga Bell to Me.....

[@angelosiragusa1364]

Hello my name is Angelo I am writing to you from Italy I wanted to ask you if in battiggia or with plate in the water it is silent thank you

[@scrapiron6870]

So merril, what your saying is we should be patient why notka is willing to give proper updates to make this machine very competitive or what’s your opinion give us the best opinions over all up to now, pros and cons, they all have but is notka fixing the problems so we can get maximum performance at the price thanks

[@Momokahn]

I'm glad I held off buying the Legend. I agree updates may cure some of the Legends flaws but how in the sam heck did these flaws get through the Honey Badger sand scoops of all of the testers. Or maybe the testers did identify these flaws and NM failed to address them. Worrisome? Time will tell.

[@digginvirginia7231]

I think all the flaws it has can be fixed with some firmware updates, which I'm sure will be a few. The Deus 2, I have seen coils that loose connections, MI-6 pointers that won't connect to the units when you have them linked ( I have experienced that myself and figured out how to fix it ) and a screen that is in an eternal boot loop. So it seems all the really new detectors are having growing pains.

[@metaldetectingbrooklyn9896]

Thanks Merrill. Awesome meaningful and helpful reviews. Thank you again. Richard MDB

[@davidfrazier1186]

Fast Forward 2023/2024 the Legend and Deus 2 will push Minelab to the Lead... Gold Baby ! This is a Very Exciting time in our metal detecting World. Good Video Merrill 👍

[@stevewaters2974]

The beach update that's coming out soon I'm sure it's going to address some of the issues on the beach program but I will tell you in the meantime if you drop your recovery rate down to one or two definitely lowers the chatter on there to a tolerable level. That allows you to keep your stability level at two or three also. Next time you're at the beach try using just Park one or two multi-frequency and see how the detector Works in that mode instead of going to beach as I've seen other comments where you don't need to go to beach on the dry sand. If the Vanquish can go from the sand to the water with no changes and its multi-frequency you would think the legend should be able to do that also.

[@reneescouch9035]

Awesome video man!

[@lloydjones9401]

What do you do with the fishing weights? Do you recycle them?

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I usually just give them to fishermen

[@brianwolf9647]

That small skillet you found looks just like one I have from a kids cooking set. A toy. Probably stainless.

[@airnashville3883]

Lantern wick cover

[@jimmymalone3494]

Great job I enjoyed you video and good Luck to you.

[@Jeffjon1960]

When I’m watching these video I like to hear the detector sounds. Maybe turn headphones off in future videos and let the viewers hear what your hearing. It makes a big difference in how I view the detector

[@pedrovision6987]

A-hemmm...Merril...why is you not using your new scoop???

[@rolandcaldwell1824]

Would like to see a actual comparison with the legend and the nockta macro in the field

[@speedmanxx]

My only issue with Nokta and Xp is the cartoon ( squeaky shoes ) sound . LOL

[@a-guitar2734]

Got my first ring today at the local beach. But you would be amazed at the tiny garbage I pull up with my 800. Tiny bits of wire. And super tiny bits of tin foil. It's irritating. Super small bits at 8 inches all day long

[@ilovemyhonda250ex]

Mexican Pizza is back at Tacobell!!!

[@scottwhitaker442]

Great video very informative

[@pclathrop]

Nice work!!

[@Aswaguespack]

Just wondering….. how does the Nokta Pinpointer rate?

[@jadefurman2840]

That's so great! What song is "taco bell"?! Want to blast it in the kitchen while making my girls tacos.

[@markeddiford3432]

By the way I have both the Simplex + & the Legend Pro Pack & like you I'm enjoying the Legend as well on both field & beach.

[@brianjones3644]

How is your Simplex holding up, compared to your Legend, Mark? (so asketh a mutual Simplex owner =) )

[@harrysurtees8710]

TACO BELL, I am serious, I have not gone to TACO BELL since you stopped Mexican Pizza.

[@vossierebel]

Mmmm... I see only one probem with that machine... Merrill is THE Legend... so, can we really have two legends on one channel?? Cool work Merrill - keep the fun going - we'll be here to support! I'll say it again... I eventually got my Simplex because of your reviews and use... I'd love to get the Legend... wait and see. Just btw, I think the first online update is out already?

[@diggindumbsht9525]

Nice job!

[@noway423]

Nokta is the best. Price. quality and update.

[@rocketsroc]

Unless one is searching for iron relics, who needs iron bias. I want gold, silver, brass...the good stuff!

[@finders-keepers1518]

The Legend actually does have iron bias built in. It's the whole reason it doesn't pass the air tests shown by many where a coin is next to a nail. What people want is an adjustable iron bias to get those signals in the dense iron areas.

[@Lookin4Things]

Cap of bottle, now keeping it wheel, stop, just stop. Now thats in my head for the next two weeks. Your great, Thank you.

[@charleshardcore215]

And I got one on Amazon for 450 to my door there's no comparison 👊

[@melvingrimes7886]

Have you updated yet or is it still 1.04

[@melvingrimes7886]

Nevermind I just wanted the last half.

[@jeffhunter9311]

I absolutely loved the Mexican pizza my favorite thing on their menu I like you was upset they promised it and never it returned

[@mr.rogers5586]

They also got rid of the chicken taco salad in the Tortilla bowl.

[@spdetectors7091]

Simplex or Legend for the beach?

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Legend. Simplex is lousy in the salt!

[@noway423]

M3 multiwet is the best... Nokta Legend. show new update in beast mode. 🙂

[@russn7995]

Merrill - Don’t worry about the Mexican Pizza. When you go to Taco Bell you can order anything on the menu and if you close your eyes when you eat it they all taste the same! 😉

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Kinda does

[@stmarysvirus5139]

This is Garrett's opportunity to strike

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I really really hope they re-engage! They are the sleeping giant who seems indifferent. The Apex is formidable on a beach, mediocre on land.

[@carlfr2977]

They are way behind!

[@scottieashleywright6412]

We’re u picking that small stuff up with your stability up to 5 .

[@scottieashleywright6412]

I only get to test the legend in iron here in Alabama haven’t made it to the beach yet.

[@yamaha226]

Seems like youtubers find more than regular folks.

[@undernetjack]

KO?

[@dukedenarie5858]

I literally don’t see other people detecting in parks… ever.

[@hummyhero1484]

👍😎 good stuff

[@thepirhomancer9745]

Didn't Iffy revisit his earlier test and find that by lowering the tone break he could hit the coin?, have you tried that? Damn Taco Bell!! 🤨🤣

[@proudlyamerican2764]

Should you need to lower tone break on factory presets to hit a dime? Ask that to yourself in the mirror a few times!?

[@thepirhomancer9745]

@@proudlyamerican2764 I don't know,you tell me,I don't question myself in the mirror!🤣

[@jb4496]

It's already the best because it will not leak.

[@harrysurtees8710]

What the heck is this? It looks like the top to an oil lantern. The long hole is for the wick.

[@lewis1141951]

My Legend 1.05 Locked up on me ! I'm not the only one having this issue ! Video showing the issue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJnWoKmtjKZlhKc

[@DannyB-cs9vx]

Zinc is another four lettered word.

[@undernetjack]

As is TACO...and BELL ...😅

[@oneagentfrog]

They lied to you, Merrill, Taco Bell lied! #TacoBellLied 😄

[@digginvirginia7231]

I agree to disagree Merrill. I think you have that backwards. The Nox is a turn it on and go detector but it can throw some really iffy signals out there that the novice would bypass and not dig and miss some good silver. Like VDI's all over the map and sounding like an E.T. ham radio station. I went out today in an area that has been plowed by multiple Nox people , myself included. 1st time out with the Legend. I put it in park mode and two silvers in two hours and like 40 pennies. Turn it on and go... it sure is. I find it much easier to decipher those iffy signals from the Legend than I do from the Nox, even though I now understand the Nox ( to a larger degree than when I 1st got it ). The Legend's tones, I think, are more tightly consistant and the VDI's are as well. I have yet to pull a really deep small item with the Deus 2. Both the Nox and The Legend have passed that test. The Legend passed it on day one. The Deus 2 has been out on three searches and has yet to pass that test. I think the ranking right now is: 1. The Legend, 2. The Nox, 3. The Deus 2

[@proudlyamerican2764]

I'm almost certain after watching many good detectorist struggle with the equinox it's something tone/rapid tone based. Easily fixed honestly but preconsieved notions you cant use f2/fe and get separation keep it from happening.iron volume 1,dont run all metal unless your just checking iron thickness run fe 3-5 or f2 if modern trash 5-6 in any mode the iron digging goes way down or 2 way signals solid with it open is fine just cant go down the reaching rabbit hole until you can really tell iron or no iron!

[@carlfr2977]

My opinion is totally opposite! .....D2, Nox & Copy cat Legend!........Try the D2 at the beach and I promise you'll get a workout!.....It is the deepest VLF machine I've ever used!....The users of this know what I'm talking about!!

[@digginvirginia7231]

@@carlfr2977 My beaches are two hours away, so I won't be testing that. If see the D2 pull a really small object from a deep hole ( I have had the Nox pull a 1/2 Reale from 11 inches ) I'll be a believer. This summer will tell the tale.

[@carlfr2977]

@@digginvirginia7231 Be prepared to become a believer!.......The Nox does pull deep small items at the beach but, after testing the D2 for myself between the two.....D2 is the clear winner!...The beach sensitive program is crazy at the beach on small deep targets!........The Nox doesn't operate at 40klz in it's beach programs like the D2 can & that's why......After being convinced for myself, I sold off both of my Equinox's...........I've been a hardcore Minelab fan for years too & never thought I'd see the day that I'd switch.

[@proudlyamerican2764]

Well after test in my va mineralized ground today 9" deus 2 vs 11" nox I can say every here n again if I hot a audio feature at random " the deus has so many audio options" it competes heads up which translates to being up in the battle for deus 2 just on argos

[@Sneaky-Sneaky]

???

[@gaborhegedus3446]

Dilek is a liar.