0:00 How we got the Baldwin Motion Camaro 0:40 The Camaro on Dream Car Garage (2000) 1:30 Why this car is so unique 2:13 Specs & getting ready to drive 3:21 Driving the Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro 6:17 Drag racing the LS-7 Camaro vs. LS-6 Chevelle 7:00 Do you need a Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro?
@ryangriffith37293 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that drag race show on cable here in 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦 And thought to my self is there anything Peter can't do
@ckelley633 жыл бұрын
How was the 454 offered in 69 I thought it wasn't available till the 70 model year???
@manwithnoname7183 жыл бұрын
@@ckelley63 I’m pretty sure the 69 Corvette could be ordered with it. I had a buddy that bought a crate motor LS7 and dropped it in his street/drag Camaro bone stock...ran like a raped ape. 12.5 compression but you could get 99 octane at the pumps back then. I believe it was also a solid lifter cam...whatever it was it had a wicked idle.
@rickstout24583 жыл бұрын
@@ckelley63 In the description it states that the invoice date for the car was July of 1970, so the LS7 would have been available, if you had the connections which of course Baldwin did.
@79tazman3 жыл бұрын
I remember dream car garage use to watch it all the time
@gh4121-b5n3 жыл бұрын
I’d watch the old show every week. Miss Tom R.I.P. . “Do you Need this Car? Do you Want this Car”. Nice Camaro. Nice sound.
@wildbill51263 жыл бұрын
GH, Yep miss Tom as well. Peter sometimes looked at Tom like he was Nutty. Great looking Camaro.
@clodge51963 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't know he passed RIP he was a character
@danieljacobson57743 жыл бұрын
@@clodge5196 how did he pass?? Pretty young in this video
@junglejim57853 жыл бұрын
@@danieljacobson5774 He died July 30th 2012 from kidney failure Daniel.
@mongolikechewchew24753 жыл бұрын
Had no idea. Sad to hear this, RIP!
@johndymowski68443 жыл бұрын
Also the LS7's that Amityville Chevy supplied were Dynoed at 660hp with 12.5 slugs and the L88 cam .560 over .600. Some guys got it with the ZL1 cam. Those are big gears Joel usually liked the 4.56's Or even the special Rockwell 4.10's. You would love the story when Joel raced a Hemi Cuda with his LS7 chevelle both 70's on Sunrise Highway in the day!
@mongolikechewchew24753 жыл бұрын
Amityville NY?
@claytammaro70603 жыл бұрын
All his cars were offered with a over drive
@johndymowski68443 жыл бұрын
@@claytammaro7060 yep. With a 4:88 or 4:56 came with A Hone overdrive. We would try to make the lever come out of the drivers side driveshaft tunnel. Many had consoles so...
@danmyers9372 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this engine clearly wasn’t built to the Motion standards back in the day. Sounds like it got a much smaller cam and possibly less compression to make it more driveable. As if any car with a 4.88 rear gear is really street driveable.
@jmac8350 Жыл бұрын
@@mongolikechewchew2475 w
@RestorationObsession3 жыл бұрын
She's a GROWLER!!! That is one sweet Camaro. I am a HUUUUUGE fan of Baldwin Motion. Absolutely some of the best-built performance machines still to this day.
@ryanaustin19703 жыл бұрын
Jesus om old lmao ... I remember it getting restored 20 yrs ago , helped peaked my interest in 69 camaros , sending me onto a mission which ended in me at 18 buying a 70 ss396 chevelle . Thanks for the memories LMC.
@stevejanka3613 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon, had the pleasure of watching your father and his crew of technicians restore this car. Glad to see that it is in someone's hands that will treat it like the treasure that it is. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
@royrauch97753 жыл бұрын
It has been over 50 years but I worked at Motion along with a good friend, Stan Noren. We, along with a few other mechanics built a large portion of their Nova's, Camaro's, and the occasional Corvette... Joel Ros0en, the owner used to take finished cars out on Sunrise Hwy. in front of the store a launch them with all the guys involved in the builds standing on the sidewalk and watching.....Great times and many old memories of all sorts of stories come back when I see a car that I helped build...think we originally built that with a Holley 3 Bbl. Carb back then!
@unclerudy97973 жыл бұрын
I remember driving past Baldwin Motion as a kid and seeing the Camaros and Corvettes out front back in the day...
@genemounce83023 жыл бұрын
I can't even BEGIN to imagine how much that building is insured for. . . o.O
@blueman59243 жыл бұрын
that’s what keeps Jay Leno so poor. 🤣
@rickstout24583 жыл бұрын
@@blueman5924 and happy as a hog in shit lol
@bigredc2223 жыл бұрын
I've wondered if it would make sense for someone like Jay to self insure?
@thelongdaysofwheeling1243 жыл бұрын
Visited the showroom a few years ago. The highlight of my trip back home to Ontario. What I and most others consider to be he best restoration team in the world. The showroom was quit. I kept looked up at the mezzanine. I'm sure I was drooling..but did my best to not leave a mess. After about 30 minutes of standing in awe of the automotive art before me, the receptionist quietly came over and ask if I would like to go up???? Are you kidding me? But no... I know what's up there is off limits. But thank you. She's said, I see how you are with your kids, how respectful they are around he cars. Do go up and look.... carefully. I will remember that day for a lifetime. Standing in front of the Cobra. Thank you.
@jimgallagher29793 жыл бұрын
American muscle is the best. Those old push rod engines had the greatest sound of all time.
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
She really sounded tough
@Thumper683 жыл бұрын
They’re still pushrod engines.
@bobsilver398310 ай бұрын
I had a LS7 in my 69 Malibu with 4:10's and a 4 speed and its was a wild ride to say the least. I damaged the engine a long time ago and sold the Malibu about 20 years ago. Thinking back I still enjoy the memories of that power. It was a 90 over LS7 with LS7 cam, 850 Holley Super comps. The reason it was 90 over was previous owner of the engine blew it up. I remember wrecking a few Muncies with that engine...one on Halloween 1995. Monster Mash was actually playing at the time, and my buddy says "Muncie Mash"...I will always remember that.
@GidDree8 ай бұрын
how fast? in 1/4??
@bobsilver39838 ай бұрын
never took it to the strip@@GidDree
@PrimedEvil3883 жыл бұрын
Do I need one? YES......YES I DO!!!
@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe96443 жыл бұрын
Remember those days getting there catalog and stickers and them advertising the 9 sec V8 Vegas with 454's in them.
@rickarra93963 жыл бұрын
Did Tom pass away
@junglejim57853 жыл бұрын
@@rickarra9396 Yes he did Rick. He dies July 30th 2012 from kidney failure.
@sidefx9963 жыл бұрын
Man I used to LOVE this show. So nice to see you guys again. So sorry to hear Tom passed 😞
@sidefx9963 жыл бұрын
Man hearing you ask the magic question really made me smile. Thanks so much for bringing LMC back to everyone who loved watching you guys years ago
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@charlesdalton9853 жыл бұрын
Sweet baby carrots what a car! I had forgotten about this, seeing the old episode clips brought back some fond memories. As always, thank you.
@markjohnson50813 жыл бұрын
Tnx for posting. The collector car, "world," never ceases to amaze and baffle me. This car, one of one, that could easily be cloned; nice '69 Camaro, hi perf 454, M22, etc., is worth 7 figures as you say, vs a clone that might be built for say $300K, all because it came from Baldwin Chev in NY back in the 60's. The value is not in the actual car, but where it was put together back in the in the day. As someone once used to say: that's not news, but that too is reality...
@FISTSLIKEBULLETS23 жыл бұрын
RIP Tom , Tom was something special and always humble and honest opinions and loved all types or muscle cars , very nice to see that your interested in these same cars and you look and sound like your dad I'm sure thats not the 1st time you heard that great stuff all the best , Thanks for the time and interests to upload these vids
@wildbill51263 жыл бұрын
Miss Tom, Kudos to you Gary, for bringing in Tom's favorite words. The car looks amazing.
@jalm68683 жыл бұрын
I see this old footage and miss Tom.
@randyphillips40013 жыл бұрын
My bud in 1975 had a 69 vette with an over the counter, LS-7, with 4sp, 4.11 rear & racemaster slicks, ran it on a track one time & got a 11.87 ET thru the side pipes. That thing was a beast!! Above quoted 520hp which is what the baby brother L-88 made, I have a book with a dyno from back in the day showing 580hp in stock form with nothing bud headers..
@jameskorner66113 жыл бұрын
Like Father like Son Excellent, keep up the good work!!!
@nateisright2 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories. Can’t believe how long it has been since Tom passed away. Peter and Tom made a great show!
@joevette62902 жыл бұрын
My 72 stingray convertable had an LS-7 an M-22 and 4.56! back in 78 that 2nd owner had bought it over the counter and being a hi-perf mecanic he installed everything and was the fastest car in the Ottawa Ont. area back in 78!!
@frankm88703 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video, when that motor idles it’s music too my ears 👍
@queticomoe44953 жыл бұрын
This channel just keeps on gettin' better! Thanks LMC!
@johnpena91653 жыл бұрын
Right there is the ultimate muscle car 💪☝️🔥 !
@tomoday44503 жыл бұрын
Great show! R.I.P Tom Dream Car Garage
@1revwilly Жыл бұрын
I just finished watching the full video of this build then watched this one right after. It was awesome to hear Tom's favorite line near the end of this video, awesome!
@ryangriffith37293 жыл бұрын
God I miss that show Dream car garage the care and effort that went into those cars was nothing short of amazing even the story of starting out in that little garage. Do you need a car like this needs to be a shirt glad to see you guys still at it. Hands down the best cars and car show in Canada 🇨🇦 one day I will be up to LMC
@jtarrant24503 жыл бұрын
Watched your dad's show for years growing up! Just living a few miles away! Glad to see your keeping it going! 💯
@johnwoods62393 жыл бұрын
The smile on your face while driving it says it it all, Yes you do need one!! haha
@TheRealMichaelP6 ай бұрын
The smile on your face says it all
@richgallagher7253 жыл бұрын
Leave it to GM for the lack of an original code # when naming the modern day LS derivative, the LS7. Since they already had used the LS7 moniker on this power plant, you’d think 🤔, how hard could it be to come up with an original code name back in 2004. So now when you tell people there’s an LS7 under the hood, most will figure it was updated with a modern LS. There didn’t need to be any confusion.
@ronmiller11623 жыл бұрын
anyone that knows engines would not be confused between the two powerplants
@richgallagher7253 жыл бұрын
@@ronmiller1162 you completely missed my point, i’m not talking about visually looking at the engines or the acoustic sound each powered plant gives off, I am talking about GM using the same code name for both engines when (I agree) they are completely (except cyl. count) different.
@richgallagher7253 жыл бұрын
@@ronmiller1162 However, the modern day LS7 is by far the most superior, naturally aspirated V8 engine GM has made to date, as it should be, since it’s @35yrs new than the old LS7. Shame on GM for code naming each engine the same.
@rickstout24583 жыл бұрын
How many times did GM re-use the LT1 engine designation? I mean jeez.
@richgallagher7253 жыл бұрын
@@rickstout2458, exactly! Their biggest code naming gaffe was when they named the C5 Z06’s engine “LS6”, stealing the code name from, well, I’m pretty sure I don’t need to tell you what grand daddy big block.
@brunningwolf3 ай бұрын
It’s a beauty I owned one 1968 Camaro very fast trust me still have it today.
@jeffreymigliore1184 Жыл бұрын
I had a “71” camaro z28 in high school that ran high 12’s in the 1/4 mile. It was very fast for a 16 year old kid. After 5 speeding tickets, my parents made me sell it before I got to take it to the senior prom. What a bummer, but what a fun car to have as your first car. That was back in 1979-1980.
@warrenstephens37053 жыл бұрын
Those cars put smiles on faces. Look at your face bro! :-)
@killerb42023 жыл бұрын
Thing of beauty and the sound...the devil approves that thunder!!
@bkehlin3 жыл бұрын
When you said it's a sleeper, i had to laugh. Any car that says Baldwin Motion, SS, or 454 on it is definitely NOT a sleeper.
@dellsmith35592 жыл бұрын
As a 53-year-old who has owned over 50 muscle cars, bought sold and enjoyed them. I really appreciate the love for these cars and I can’t believe the Inflated price hike that probably will take it down turn. It’s evident that you come from the very wealthy family and have no worries but the one thing I can appreciate is that you take a very humble approach and a love for these cars. I seriously appreciate young men like yourself!!!!
@davidh6818 Жыл бұрын
Your comment about the financial status of his family is absolutely irrelevant,and idiotic at best....
@jaivette3 жыл бұрын
Great video, full of enthusiasm.
@samspade8612 Жыл бұрын
It's a miracle that car survived!
@christopherkraft13273 жыл бұрын
What a classic muscle car!! 👍🙂
@jasonweinke29043 жыл бұрын
WOW what an absolute beautiful car done RIGHT AND WITH JUSTICE!! Amazing how well it runs, right off the showroom floor. No stalling or falling on it's face when pedal is mashed!!!
@craigyamasaki4236 Жыл бұрын
Gary is the New-Age Tom! Love it!
@sportsterray662 жыл бұрын
One amazing Camaro, but I also liked the GT4 menu music playing in the background! 🤘😎
@ChicagosM0stWanted Жыл бұрын
When I heard the engine rev and start... I fell in love!! ❤🔥
@robertmorales3913 жыл бұрын
Great car... love the original show. Tom was such a great guy....
@tollefreyerson67103 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!
@toomanyhobbies20113 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's an 11 second car, but glad they went easy on it. Love the image of it at the strip with the wide wrinkle walls and tunnel ram hood. Takes me back to the cars we built and raced in the middle 70s, cars that were thrashed to death and now worth 100 times what we paid for them.
@danmyers9372 Жыл бұрын
It definitely was as Motion built the car back in 1969 but based on the idle sound and the dyno HP numbers given this engine is WAY milder than how it would have been delivered by Motion. Guessing less compression and much smaller cam.
@sublime9299 ай бұрын
At 103mph it would be high 12's.
@409adamc93 жыл бұрын
Great show- keep them coming!
@derekbowbrick62333 жыл бұрын
Next up that Shelby? Nice to see Tom and Dad at Cayuga.
@brentyancich3 жыл бұрын
Very cool . The original owner seems must of favored an unassuming stock look . I was surprised no special decals or hood treatment
@Liplip403 жыл бұрын
Love you this return of Legendary.
@paulleclaire21413 жыл бұрын
Loved the show, loved watching your Dad. Keep up the good work. Welcome back
@rotaxtwin Жыл бұрын
What a keeper, short-shifting it like that it is through the gears and cruising in no time. Hope you can preserve this for many, many more years. Really happy to stumble across your channel, looked forward to the program on Speed years ago.
@handymatt19708 ай бұрын
It's cool to see a young man enjoy this car it's like 1969 all over again.
@Murjam1003 жыл бұрын
I would be scared to drive it. Not because of the power, but because of the value!!!
@markrichardson2448 Жыл бұрын
Awesome & well done ride!!
@dennislk41383 жыл бұрын
Been there years ago and Loved the show never met Peter but was fortunate to meet Kieth Sims. My photo flash shocked him as he was welding with his back to me when he was under a Dodge product if I remember right. We talked for quite some time about his end of the work and must say Kieth was and still is my hero at LMC. Would have loved to have worked with Keith, his knowledge and ability was a real inspiration of what could be done back at time when his level of work was so special. Hope Keith Sims is doing well he will always be the man at LMC.
@chilli-goon-fredmranderson44503 жыл бұрын
Your awesome and great review!!👏👏😎
@dougcoleburn15793 жыл бұрын
Tom was the man! Miss that guy!
@talesofanasphaltjockey3 жыл бұрын
I grew up not far from Motion Performance & used to drive there often , dreaming of one day having my car worked on at the shop... brings back such fond memories of my youth .
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
What a cool shop to be able to stop in at!
@carguy00003 жыл бұрын
Great video, always enjoyed Dream Car Garage >> love the comedy between Tom and your dad , they always made me laugh . R.I.P. Tom
@chele-chele3 жыл бұрын
12:5-1 big port open chamber head, big rod, tuftrided crank, high nickel block and came with a notice for 4 spd only, no automatic use. I had 3 of these beasts in the crate, marked off-road use only, XCH "experimental Chevrolet" and yes, in a Camaro body you had to tie the subframes or it twisted more than a belly dancer =) The first one we fired on avgas for breakin' and the headers glowed white hot like the Chevy Power Book cover with Smoky Yunick running some NASCAR beast! Ah, those were the days...
@rickstout24583 жыл бұрын
Chele, what was the price tag on those puppies?
@ShanerTheGrey3 жыл бұрын
Bro the GT4 music is why I subscribe
@brianburnett5049 Жыл бұрын
You have the choicest cars.
@kdh65883 жыл бұрын
Keep bring out the cars for a run. Nice to see & hear them stretch their legs. What a great job, as rare as the car itself.
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@forterierocks Жыл бұрын
I miss Dream Car Garage, Rest Peacefully Tom.
@davidcranford73823 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful car! I just can’t imagine that 454 in a Camaro !!
@vhp454Ай бұрын
I own a 1971 camaro baldwin motion phase 3, it has a highly built 454 LS7, t400 trans, 12 bolt rear with 4.10. 2 1/8 primary headers, to dual 4 inch exhaust. I have owned this car since 1982, I will never part with it.
@rogerbrandt66783 жыл бұрын
Lucky kid, nice too see he knows he’s lucky.
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger, Very lucky, just trying to work hard and take it all in!
@joevette62943 жыл бұрын
My 72 vette was owned by a friend from Ottawa Camille Wana who was the second owner back in 78 and immediately bought an LS-7 an M-22 and a 4.56 rear!! it was the fastest car in the Ottawa area!!!
@peter13173 жыл бұрын
Used to watch LMC in UK, think it was on Discovery. Glad you will have new content each week.
@gmain19773 жыл бұрын
On discovery and Men and motors also Barret Jackson
@cameronmacnab20423 жыл бұрын
Every man should want a Baldwin Camaro 😊
@brenthill32413 жыл бұрын
I still have some of the magazines Hot Cars and Super Street Cars from the long forgotten Engledrum Publishing that carried ads for Baldwin. There was one for a 1970 Pase 3 Camero. The advertisement said guaranteed to run 11:00 or better with an asterisk saying "With our driver and a sanctioned drag strip."
@billfeld58832 жыл бұрын
You need to, I drive by feel and listening, at 68yrs old I was lucky to drive alot of fun cars that today are called Muscle cars, back then they were just Hi -Performance cars 🚗!!! 2022
@mikemoore72452 жыл бұрын
That sounds like the music from Gran Turismo when you shop for cars! Beautiful car
@legendarymotorcar2 жыл бұрын
You're right!
@funnrun33993 жыл бұрын
I rode in a 67 Chevrolet Camaro 454 it was fast plain and simple when you are in the city it does not feel comfortable the second you hit the highway its roars to life and pushes you into the seat
@deloreanfan813 жыл бұрын
That thing sounds incredible
@miketrissel54943 жыл бұрын
Wow! "Traction Action ", traction bars...a blast from the past. In it's vintage green with the side stripes, it looked just like mine. All that's left of it 38 years later are the door panels and the back seat. 😥
@leonardoaragones27383 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us
@cmorlok2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are keeping Tom’s ending to every show. Nice 👌🏽
@ronhellengreen47993 жыл бұрын
Dam you have the coolest job in the world! I've never even heard about this Camaro .
@bryantcurtis26653 жыл бұрын
When I am reincarnated I want to come back as a brown recluse spider and live in a Holley carburetor.🤪
@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 Жыл бұрын
The straight shifter should have a white ball, the T looks goofy. Needs a curved shifter.
@abikerinpa3 жыл бұрын
Do you need a car like this ? No .......... Do you want a car like this ? Oh my yes ! 😎♥️. ...... I miss hearing that comment every weekend 😎♥️
@rongrieve97003 жыл бұрын
Hey Gary, another great video on a great car. The ‘69 Camaro is such an iconic year, never mind it’s a Baldwin Motion car. I’ve been out to your shop/showroom/museum a few times and loved all the rare cars there over the years. I keep buying lottery tickets because one day I will drop by and take home one of Peter’s Boss ‘9s.
@legendarymotorcar3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Ron! hope to see you once we're back to normal!
@rickstout24583 жыл бұрын
@@legendarymotorcar Can't wait Gary. I enjoyed every one of the Legendary Motorcar episodes with you and your dad, Peter. I think the season pass is still on my DVR, LOL. Also the show where he was one of the appraisers of classic cars about to go across the auction block. I'm glad I stumbled across your KZbin channel. Subscribed!
@midwestspeed78892 жыл бұрын
@ 5:38 looks like a green 69 camaro goes opposite way past him on the road lol
@jamesdamrom7513 жыл бұрын
Should have left it with the cragers& tunnel ram
@kennethalbert46533 жыл бұрын
3:55 Camera angle make the steering wheel look even BIGGER !
@ericburns24214 ай бұрын
I've been a fan of the Baldwin motion 454 phase 3 engine I'm building my own replica of the 454 phase 3 so far I got all the parts now I just got to find the block but mine is going to create 535 horsepower wish me luck holla if you hear me
@mikeskipworth8563 жыл бұрын
I never knew how much I missed Tom Hnatiw til I just saw him.
@edwardbentley3986 Жыл бұрын
First time you get on it snap goes the windshield and the body gaps done 🤪🥂✌️
@johndymowski68443 жыл бұрын
What kind of fuel are you running? I worked for Motion in the 70's parts man while I went to school across the Island. Amity Cheverolet (Steve) supplied the LS7's when I was there!
@nojunkwork57352 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Peter knows his 15-year-old son was joy riding these cars when he is out of town.
@davehill99513 жыл бұрын
very cool acquisition. My only complaint is seeing an MSD box under the dash. Wasnt even invented when Baldwin got a hold of them.
@peppermintpatty8802 Жыл бұрын
I think you better check the valve guides on the drinkers side