Spanish Musketeers against Unbreakable Mayans

[@crimsoncardinal208]

More disaster battles/campaigns with extensive gunpowder units would be cool, they are rarely used.

[@florians9949]

If we speak medieval 2, that because they are shit.

[@Insandom]

@@florians9949 Their purpose is shredding through heavily armored units.

[@feintfaint7213]

It takes so long to get them in the normal campaign

[@Haggis-Giggles4692]

Most people want to see stereotypical Medieval of sword & shield, not guns in a Medieval game…

[@Dart_Conscript]

1:18 “Ok let’s take out the Culverin, nevermind there is no culverin”

[@based8223]

You're a toggaf. Everyone was listening when he said that, what's the point?

[@bertus3710]

Reminds me of a Maya campaign I played with an Emperor having full dread and the rest of the army being Temple Guards. Full dread + Frighten nearby enemy trait = doomstack worthy. 😁

[@Dexusaz]

Awesome to see some Medieval II Americas content! Crazy to think about how much content was in the Kingdoms expansion for a relatively low price.

[@satyakisil9711]

Americas was arguably the worst campaign.

[@Dexusaz]

@@satyakisil9711 I agree but it's still cool to see some of it and it's atleast something different.

[@gonkdroid9325]

How many single dlcs today are equivalent to the content of the base game? I can't think of any

[@lucfxgambitgaming7494]

@@satyakisil9711 You're full of shit

[@satyakisil9711]

@@Dexusaz I was rather disappointed to see four factions which are basically the same, the crusades factions had more variety. And Chicmecs were in every way a weaker Apache without the warpath.

[@TheEzyGuy00]

"Sir! We keep hearing distant thunder even though it's sunny today, and our men are mysteriously falling like flies! What should we do?!" "Maintain our formation and wait for them to sally out. The heat stroke must be particularly bad this time of the year."

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Sir! The Spanish God is surely angry, and strikes with little lightbolts our warriors!!!! Plus their Mounted demi-gods causes ravages into our ranks!

[@Aunzo91]

"Mi lord, our man will not run from the battlefield, shameful display"

[@dimo9463]

A yes the Americas Campaign, this was the first time i got to play with gunpowder units in Medieval 2. Since most of the time i would beat the campaign or get bored before unlocking gunpowder. Great video legend, please do more MTW2 battle and maybe consider downloading some popular mods so you can do saves for those as well. I and i believe many others only play modded M2TW anyways.

[@ayhanfedai5013]

would love some divide and qonqurer but he said he wont touch them

[@OldBaldWookiee]

I found a way to have fun longer on regular med 2 campaign . Play on very hard .Use cheats for money then give it all away to everyone repeat as much as you want . BOOM! now everyone is a super power capable of fielding more armies and waging total war. That should keep you busy a little longer . The game gets so much more fun when everyone is fielding late game units. One time when I did this I was playing as england got myself excomminicated then realized the pope had conquered all of Italy Africa and part of spain and they had all of christendom helping them try to wipe me out

[@dimo9463]

@@ayhanfedai5013 Sad, since a lot of the mods fix some of the bugs and glitches, like the one where Twohanded weapons are horrible.

[@Dexusaz]

He won't play mods, he said that a lot of times.

[@dimo9463]

@@OldBaldWookiee That's OK, but a lot of mods do a lot more and change the way AI builds and behaves in combat. And some of the Mods are so insanely polished to where they feel like proper expansions.

[@opossumboyo]

The AI did very, very poorly in this battle. I play mostly Shogun 2 and even though it’s easy to abuse, at least it usually doesn’t stand still and let you kill it.

[@Xaphnir]

I kind of wonder if CA overcorrected for how the AI is dumb in Rome. I won a battle where I sallied out in Rome a little while ago with just a general, 3 mercenary hoplites, 2 velites and 1 Cretan archers against a Pontic army of 3200. And in that, after my archers and velites took out their general and missile cavalry, my general was able to just insta-rout their archers and peltasts because the AI had been pointlessly running them around and they were exhausted. It also took nearly 1000 casualties from standing in range of the towers, and its general was killed by a tower. If the AI had been this passive in that battle, there's no way I'd have been able to win it.

[@trolldrool]

I had one siege battle once where I only had 5-6 militia units in my garrison against a full stack of with siege towers and a battering ram. And for some reason, as soon as I took down the battering ram, the rest of the army just stood still while my ballista towers shot them until they broke from army losses. And that wasn't even a sally out.

[@RicegumNeverBrokeAgain]

Darthmod should help the AI

[@RicegumNeverBrokeAgain]

I play Napoleon tw darthmod, and after I break every units, they regroup and come again, and they try their best to flank me

[@solaceinlarsa6380]

yh i dont get how people still play vanilla TWM2. You gotta play Stainless Steel for it to be a fun game at least. DaC is goat

[@JoshuaLikesGrahamCrackers]

it's ok guys, the spanish are just bringing culture and technology to them.

[@michaelmoran2125]

Rightfully so and as God intended. Vie Victus

[@yamnayaseed356]

They’re just doctors and engineers from war torn impoverished Europe. Let them in!

[@VenatorStellorum]

Yeah, bringing it to them at several hundred meters per second...

[@Astraben]

We were, Larga Vida a la Hispanidad

[@petrolak]

I'm sorry, but the ritual cannibalistic mass human sacrifices will have to stop.

[@valentinbalbinot5054]

"I think we'll have to send even the musketeers in melee" The musketeers hearing this be like 😐

[@celston51]

Athos, Porthos, and Aramis are fine in melee. It's the other musketeers that need to worry.

[@Novasfan100]

"Sire we ran out of Ammo surely we should retreat behind the walls and refill?" "No, ready the charge"

[@buzter8135]

Dude something hilarious happened to me as the Apache, after watching this video I decide to do a run as them for a bit of quick fun, I was quick to pick up some map Information and saw Spain was dominating as usual, then a few turns after the other European expeditions arrived New Spain went around and decided to god-damn COLLAPSE, I was confused at first when I got the notification that the faction was gone, somehow despite quickly becoming the number one faction, they went and somehow lost some decisive battles, killing off their entire leadership, now the native factions are lapping up what used to be their territory and putting my chances of winning the game at risk as one of Spain's former allies took its place and is well on its way to the quick campaign victory condition. Its somewhere between a miracle and a disaster that this actually happened.

[@BetaDude40]

It actually happens more often than you think, for some reason Spain doesn't seem to be able to generate a lot of family members, especially the AI. I can count on one hand the amount of times Spain AI survived to late game because of this problem

[@PremusRed]

Wow, that roll up was a thing of beauty. And I like this game handled mass routing perfectly like a rout would snowball in our own history with a crumbling flank.

[@garak55]

Yeah I really hate how total war warhammer units always seem to fight to the death and moral doesn't matter which makes no sense considering that in the board game, battles are really not that lethal and are won through moral more than anything.

[@torquevonthorne948]

If you listen carefully while watching you can hear Cerveza y Latifondo by Bardomagno What did happen to those poor temple guards? They lack scales and a tail! They cannot be tainted by chaos, so what change them?

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

What minute?

[@MateusVIII]

Dude, thanks for that comment, that music is fire

[@rattakornkarnchanah8714]

The AI with hails of bullets to the back: *this is fine...*

[@blob22201]

Ahh, This is the Legendary old Total War AI I've heard so much about.

[@thewhitetortoise9336]

I'm curious, if people are saying older titles have better AI than newer ones, how bad is the AI in Warhammer?

[@alantyndall85]

I think they're so passive to get around the fact the besiegers should really be rushing from their siege camp to form a line, not instantly in formation and aggressively pushing back. Not strictly relevant but I'd love to see a TW game with proper siege lines, camps etc. Maybe even design the siege lines turn by turn. A man can dream.

[@Schaden-freude]

I mean they are bad in every game. Legend has a wh3 video up where he marches a hero into a fortress, then walks past all the enemy troops to catch the victory point. Like, lol.

[@buzter8135]

Don't get ahead of yourself, this happens in Nu-tw too.

[@addochandra4745]

To be clear, in OG RTW1 enemy units will face you when you do sally battle but because units number is very large (240 at max) in R1 you can exploit that by making enemy face you and get shot by settlement tower (they'll make long line). Dev fixed that by diminished unit number in M2TW (150 at max) and make AI get a bit far away from your settlement's tower. But the dev didn't program them (maybe an oversight) to face player when your units get outside from other than front gate (get out from left and right gate). So you can can pick them apart from left gate with missile and melee infantry and smash them from right gate by your cavalry. It's really a shame because battlefield map is huge in this game, and Dev back then kinda forgot to make AI properly in this kind of situation...

[@inductivegrunt94]

So much for being unbreakable when some Spanish boys with thunder sticks can beat them. Rip to those Mayan boys.

[@Warmaker01]

This... Is my BOOM STICK!

[@Kidneyjoe42]

To their credit, they didn't break even while being gunned down to the last man.

[@AlexAlex-zt3hi]

Probably the survivigg guys put all that meat to good use...if you know what i mean

[@Wimbold]

They fully proved their point by just standing there fearlessly.

[@baroncaucasio95]

is lovely when the AI just waits for you

[@bruceluiz]

Thats is sure one too many Mayans fainting for no gpod reason. Thankfully, their mates have manners and know to fill in the gaps created by their suddenly dead companions...

[@bilbobaggins8794]

The amount of experience that Conquistador unit got is wild.

[@juliovielma8703]

He became a God in strength and power

[@bayderon]

It was massive indeed

[@GerackSerack]

Started with a sinlge bronce chevron, ended up with three silver ones.

[@GeroldLive]

@@GerackSerack *gold

[@satyakisil9711]

Conquistador have 2 hitpoints I believe.

[@FerrousAradicen]

Scaleless lizardmen sure are passive.

[@thebrmbek]

7:20 "Honestly this dude here... he's dead mate, he just doesnt realize it yet"

[@bayderon]

😂

[@nikodemospl870]

🎅🏻🐡🥕

[@lightworker2956]

Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

[@dannygld23]

Wtf. I still get blown away at the battles you manage to win lol

[@winndypops]

Ha! That poor Culverin team, I didn't think they could survive with only 2 guys, never seen arty spawn like that before.

[@RockyX123]

If they survive a battle with only 2 units they'll disband. But they probably had a few more, but then took attrition from being under siege, dropping them to 2 guys.

[@winndypops]

@@RockyX123 Ah of course, that makes sense thanks dude.

[@zelarketgame2211]

Went from an arty unit to just 2 blokes grabbed from the streets with a knife

[@tahahadada1936]

I just watched your videos from 2013 on medevil 2 ,you are a true legend .❤❤

[@KetsaKunta]

I randomly came upon a new upload after checking your channel before bed! Can't wait

[@senshibat8920]

Fun to see the Americas DLC again thank you. The Gun crew could man a tower? Open grounds were the Spanish excelled with their ranged.. or close melee armour over basic tribal forces.. A matter of speed of foot and numbers.. Like fighting Skaven in a jungle if you cant stand off longer.

[@crocworks]

4:48 Gunpowder units completely bypass shields in Medieval 2, so it doesn't matter which direction you shoot from while using them damage-wise. Not sure if Medieval 2 inflicts a morale penalty when you shoot someone in the back or side like in the more modern themed games, though I would assume so. But obviously, shooting from the side there was required to actually hit them, so regardless of the morale penalty it still is the correct tactic.

[@williamslater-vf5ym]

I would love to see a full apache campaign. Great early units. Cavalry and muskets after a while, and they have a crusade mechanic. Best faction in the campaign imo.

[@constantinople777christens5]

Explain their crusade mechanic.

[@williamslater-vf5ym]

@@constantinople777christens5 it's called warpath. It works exactly like a jihad. You can call it with a holy man of 4 piety or better. Couple of notes. It is very hard to level holy men in the campaign. They gain piety very slowly. Second note is, Apaches can only hire mercenaries while in warpath. I believe all of this is the same for the Chichamec.

[@tomcarroll2312]

The human sacrifices WILL stop

[@michaelterrencefernandezli6688]

9:55 Legend just turned into IDKsterling for a moment LMAO

[@da6ko1]

Americas campaign was my shit back in the day 💯 got a lot of good memories playing it

[@VarroxFur]

Since it wasnt metion in the video i mention it here even tho i am sure Legend knows about it. If you toggle either guard or skrimish mode on or off on gunpowder missile units, they will change theyr shooting patterns. For Example, if all is toggeld off, Units will walk back the Line after Firing a shot and allow already loaded Units to fire. They will reload with calm in the back while still remain mobile to move back / forward. You can see this play out in the beginnig of the Fighting with Guard Mode off. 04:40 If only Guard mode is active, the Ranks will not move back to reload but will do so in the front after firing. This will hinder the pace of theyr Damage output since only one Line is firing. The Unit will not go as quickly trough theyr ammo while making sure each volley doesnt waste a lot of shot. I didnt matter in this scenario but in a more chaotic situation it could be influential. For whatever reason, if both Guard and Skrimish Mode are enabled, the Unit will use Kneel Fire. Both Front Ranks will shoot and load at the same time. Doubeling the Damage output and the use of ammuntion. So place them in a good spot. This is on the top of my memory so if some patterns are switched or diffrent i am sorry. I hope it was still helpfull and you learned something new about a game that came out 2006. ( yeez guys i feel old )

[@Sercotani]

that bird sound in the campaign map is reaaaally throwing me off, especially cos of how bad it sounds. It probably sounds "realistic" to some people but to me it sounds like CA just recorded irl bird sounds with a shitty microphone back then and just rolled with it LOL

[@cheddar1554]

Love how they fill the gaps so you don't have to move your troops

[@mremixed]

Cuh-Cull-Con Kukulkan In case you were wondering. Hope that helps.

[@yuppieNL]

All of these epic uploads make me so happy, and legend seems happy too

[@christiannielson9416]

Day #5 of asking Legend to bring back his old outro quote "See you next time... Fuckers!"

[@priestskorge]

Happy for you legend Brother! Your channel got me to try warhammer 2 and now I play all the classics. Loving the old school coverage man. Also you seem a lot happier. Wish you love and peace brother have a great Xmas . Happy holidays 🌲

[@Camborix]

"the power of aztec necromancy" 😂😂😂 Nice xD

[@tvullings]

That was awesome! I feel like I actually learned something about the game from this.

[@michadomeracki5910]

Hey buddy. Good to see you. You do a great job for all strategy games communities.

[@wolfofthestep]

Aztec necromancy, brilliant!

[@XtecHubble]

Weird temple guards that look like under equipped empire troops..

[@sethleoric2598]

I remember beating the English armies with just an army of cobbled together Native mercs. Natives are pretty strong fr when you use them properly.

[@jonny-b4954]

It's kind of dumb the developers never patched this crap out. Like, the army should totally be able to recognize what's going on and protect itself. Just weird they didn't and STILL haven't gone that far with the battle AI. They may have fixed the enemy just standing there letting you kill them one by one, but I'm not sure it's actually much better nowadays.

[@azeon562]

Watching you back in an America's campaign after all this time is giving me PTSD war flashbacks of a certain Dark Legend Apachean Tribes campaign 😂

[@Xaphnir]

Man, and people talk about the AI being bad in Warhammer.

[@Eskeletor_210]

Damn 6:30am and a fresh LTW upload

[@strategicavocado]

Refreshing to see some MTW2! Cheers

[@PG19871230]

The Temple Guard Legend respects.

[@leimprovisermagog9259]

man, and i thought you won that fair and sqaure. You cheesed it

[@Freewata]

Oh dang! Breaking out the metaphorical popcorn for this one!

[@paulsmith5752]

"AY SENOR! MAYAN BANDITS HAVE RAIDED THEIR OWN VILLAGE..."

[@Savaris96]

Funnily enough one of my first experiences with sallying out was on medium difficulty against a shitload of spearmen, the moment i started shooting them they came at me like a human wave, while the general stood back and watched the carnage happen cause they charged back into tower range

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

Yeah because the AI prioritizes the bulk of the army and the general. There are in that formation because Legend brought all his troops up in front of the walls, making the AI think he’s planning a frontal assault. They don’t respond to the Musketeers because they think it’s a faint for the main attack. If Legend only brought out the Musketeers and cab and everyone else remained in the settlement, the AI would’ve charged the Musketeers.

[@duckman9467]

Holy shit I had no idea you could force a draw like that

[@elyastoohey6621]

We have a culverin here, oh wait, no we don't. 2 dudes standing there lol. I fell for the same thing when i saw he had a culverin. Sally out with a culverin + muskets on the walls = easy kills.

[@AkaRystik]

so polite of the AI to just stand there and let you kill its best units.

[@hickspaced2963]

The eagle totem song is such a slapper.

[@vgamedude12]

The continent fell before the temple guard did.

[@ThePastaSawce]

How you are able to pull a win out your bum is still just amazing to me. 😂 that was awesome.

[@fedrick1connery607]

Merry Christmas Eve from America

[@bryanjohnson1628]

QUESTION: Regarding Cavalry in M2TW. Every time I move a cavalry unit, it automatically goes into a skinny formation. For example, I may start a unit off just 3 rows deep and when I move them forward, they end up being 8 rows deep. It is EXTREMELY annoying. I am playing vanilla M2TW on Steam.

[@east4246]

You straight up used actual Conquistador tactics against the Ai. The would just target the enemy's leader as soon as they could

[@jordanbolm8517]

Yo legend. New to your channel. Feel like I've heard you say before that you don't really like Empire total war. Could you elaborate as to why? I've played rome, medieval 2, empire, Rome 2. All fun but empire is by far my favorite.... anyways keep up the good work dude

[@hybralisk]

Strangest looking lizardmen I've seen yet!

[@Jixxor]

I am not sure if something about my audio setup changed that I am not aware of or what it is, but I found the audio really troublesome in this video. Had real trouble understanding you, especially in the beginning with the unit talking on the campaign map.

[@JosephGaming]

7:20 Bro thinks he's idksterling 💀

[@floridagrown6203]

Your awesome legend!

[@Falcon0BR]

You can merge units in pre-empire tw games, just drag the cards over each one, or press control+m to merge all the army, it would be more useful to have a single bigger cavalry unit in this situation

[@TheBloofyx]

>"strategy game" >look inside >stat check with heavy cheese

[@randomdude2327]

Hey Legend, cool vid. Also day one of asking for a hill tier list from your recent FOTS disasters.

[@warriorvikingtotalwar1466]

if you use skirmish mode with musketeers you can actually increase their firing speed :D

[@woodsmand]

Oh yeah the musketeer sally, been there many a time

[@666stonewall]

The Necromancer revived the chosen 20 XD

[@chrollohunterx7958]

I got a question about warhammer 3 is it normal that on turn like 7 i see the ai with t3 army? Specially with demons i feel they are always too op

[@maycontainnuts3127]

often underestimate the power of properly micro'd cav 👌

[@swankyj501]

Great video😊

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

It was impressive, like an Alexander the Great on PC, haha. But is there a way to contact him for a disaster campaign?

[@RevolverOcelot1976]

The ai wasnt doing anything the whole battle.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

*the human sacrifice will cease*

[@ChronicExhaustion]

*enter the conquistadors who wipe out entire population centers

[@TheUltraGamer98]

Hey Legend, I've sent you a save about a month ago. I am just wondering if this is normal or there is something wrong and my mail did not come

[@JACR--Atlas]

Historically Accurate Gameplay

[@premiericedog691]

Fuck I laughed at the Cannon at the start.

[@jackjacl2089]

Who would win? A grand Mayan army or some muskets boys?

[@michaelestopinal]

Love these videos

[@ICryWhenICum001]

Will you Space Marine 2 when it comes out?

[@Warmaker01]

These rustics are so inept. It nearly takes the honor out of victory. Nearly.

[@Vandelberger]

Why do they run back? The walls?

[@knrstix1481]

I'd love to watch Legend play new spain from scratch in a livestream 😊

[@ihaterz123]

Is there something going on with the audio? Still a great video though.

[@jonlannister345]

You wouldn't stand a chance if the AI wasn't determined to lose in this sally out battles lol

[@biotxsavart]

Pure skill.

[@kirevkizrepnav572]

I am quite confused how he got hte culverin to 2 units without it getting xp. In my new spain game it got to like rank 7 within 3 sieges. Do they take a lot of dmg in autoresolve?

[@alantyndall85]

Maybe it was badly placed in a battle and got slammed?

[@R3GARnator]

Love Kingdoms videos.

[@raikuy_jl]

LEGEEEEEND!!!

[@Sunscreen723]

more medieval 2 videos please!!

[@schalkpienaar1217]

Why do you never group your units?

[@30aragon]

I've seen a lot of historical TW players mocking WH3's AI behavior, but after watching this video, I can only feel sorry for you guys.

[@pyroparagon8945]

Med 2 is also nearly 20 years old. WH3 doesn't have that excuse

[@raisinpanda7967]

I can't wait for medieval 3 where you have to buy Spain as a dlc and the holy Roman empire is a day one preorder faction and longbowmen are in the king Henry lord pack and not available at launch

[@lorettakim7828]

Hooray for Cortez and Pizarro

[@annatar6453]

Gunpowder ignore shields. It provides no defense bonus