CANUCKS MAKE ANOTHER TRADE W/ PENGUINS: MARCUS PETTERSSON TO VANCOUVER (GOODBYE DESHARNAIS & HEINEN)

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@treetrunks7458
@treetrunks7458 17 сағат бұрын
3 petterssons this will save the franchise
@LeonExile05
@LeonExile05 16 сағат бұрын
Canucks having 3 Pettersson’s and NYR having 2 Millers is hilarious. I hope the Rangers trade for Colin Miller from Winnipeg. lol
@ThePlasticJedi
@ThePlasticJedi 15 сағат бұрын
This is like something you do to try and challenge yourself on XBOX...
@revilogaming2305
@revilogaming2305 8 сағат бұрын
I mean two of them are D so u won’t see em both in OT
@revilogaming2305
@revilogaming2305 8 сағат бұрын
JT looked slow made so many turnovers wasn’t shooting wasn’t getting points and wasn’t showing that grit y’all are talking about PROS -bye miller ❤ -hello petey -deshargarbage out thank god -lots of cap space to sign the guys we really love NUETRAL -hienen was decent but don’t care either way CONS -our faceoff percentage -not really any huge piece in return for miller and first pick - losing a first pick -😢 brannstrom sigh I liked that guy I truly believe he has amazing potential and he’s being doing great in ahl and showed flashes of Hughes like movement
@conservativeamber1216
@conservativeamber1216 7 сағат бұрын
LOL No they wont Love the Sarcasm though
@spartan4196
@spartan4196 17 сағат бұрын
Now we need the pettersson from dallas
@raymondleemanpaper
@raymondleemanpaper 7 сағат бұрын
We keep trading 1st round picks for UFAs. Terrible!
@redyr6
@redyr6 2 сағат бұрын
And then we don’t even sign them
@jakedasnake7703
@jakedasnake7703 16 сағат бұрын
As a pens fan overall I think this is a W trade for us.
@troysander5731
@troysander5731 12 сағат бұрын
u got nothing back and got 2 defensive liabilitys who wont play
@adamlewis5700
@adamlewis5700 10 сағат бұрын
@@troysander5731 Heinen's 5 on 5 defense is good if you look at his metrics and he chips in a bit offensively. He's as good or better than O'Connor is right now at hockey. Vinny D is not a good player, but that's the price of doing business. It's all about the first round pick and a nice prospect in Fernstrom. Vinny D they're just eating the contract. Heinen is a plug and play bottom six guy much like OConnor. Pittsburgh is very familiar with Heinen, he played here for several years. He knows the system. Point is Pens aren't trying to gain talented players, they're trying to build for the future. This achieves that. Vancouver got the piece in M. Pet. that they need. It's a win win.
@ourlittleadventures519
@ourlittleadventures519 9 сағат бұрын
​@@adamlewis5700the big defenseman will play much better in Pitt without all the crazy drama in Van, a top 13 pick, Heinen who's better than O'Connor, and an 18 year old with alot of upside to develop for a guy whose next contract will be 6+ million next year, really? Pens win this one!
@jrsnowden25
@jrsnowden25 8 сағат бұрын
Anyone looking at this whole trade saying that the Canucks won this deal clearly doesn’t understand what it was about. I do like the roster players the Pens gave up over the returning players, but for the Penguins, it wasn’t about the now. With that said, this is so typical of a Rutherford deal. He’s great to have for now, but detrimental for the future. The Penguins over the last 10 years have probably had the least amount of draft picks in the league because Rutherford traded them all. As of right now, they have the most draft picks in the league over the next three years.
@jrsnowden25
@jrsnowden25 8 сағат бұрын
@@troysander5731I agree with you but for Pittsburgh, this wasn’t a trade to make them better right now.
@LeonExile05
@LeonExile05 16 сағат бұрын
We wanted to have 3 Hughes, but we got 3 Pettersson instead. lol
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
there's still another one in Dallas. Get him and we got 4. Find one more and we got an all Pettersson line! Imagine trying to do the play by play with 5 Petterssons on the ice, 2 of them even starting with Elias! That would be hilarious to listen to! .😂😂Worse even then the short lived, Sedin, Sedin and Sundin line!
@ryan5307
@ryan5307 15 сағат бұрын
​@@Seriously_Unserious if only there was a goalie Pettersson too
@stephenworthington-white8294
@stephenworthington-white8294 17 сағат бұрын
We can finally ice an all Pettersson lineup in OT!! Play by play guys heads will pop!
@thebigpicture2032
@thebigpicture2032 17 сағат бұрын
😂😂 Hope they do
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
They'd have to go with a 2 d-man 1 forward line to do that though, but they could have D-Pettey's alternating on the OT blueline!
@johnl6277
@johnl6277 15 сағат бұрын
Can't wait! This will surpass the Sedin twins calls.
@keithrobinson2941
@keithrobinson2941 15 сағат бұрын
The play by play guys may need to refer to their jersey numbers; forget the names.
@alvin8287
@alvin8287 16 сағат бұрын
The fact is we never know who won a trade til many years later
@troubleondemand7703
@troubleondemand7703 16 сағат бұрын
The only rational take
@anxietyonline1947
@anxietyonline1947 13 сағат бұрын
Not entirely, the PLD to LA for Vilardi and others was an instant win for Winnipeg. PLD isn't even on the King's right now. 😂
@fatshibaballs
@fatshibaballs 8 сағат бұрын
@@anxietyonline1947incorrect. A pice of a trade can always reignite and be flipped for another trade.
@tedlee1848
@tedlee1848 16 сағат бұрын
Pettersson passes it to Pettersson and Pettersson passes it to another Pettersson back to Pettersson and one time to Pettersson he scores.
@Xyy2387
@Xyy2387 17 сағат бұрын
So basically: Miller, Brannstrom, Heinen, Desharnais, Fernstrom, Dorrington, and a protected 1st for Chytil, Mancini plus O'Connor, and Pettersson both on an expiring contracts. 😅
@st1cker632
@st1cker632 17 сағат бұрын
saves money for someone...
@tedlee1848
@tedlee1848 16 сағат бұрын
That’s disgusting
@satisfyingV
@satisfyingV 16 сағат бұрын
1. Extensions might already be agreed upon for the expiring contracts prior to the trade. 2. Wouldn't really see losing Heinen and Desharnais as a bad thing. We're dumping their contracts (which everyone has complained about) to Pittsburgh. 3. I think we could've gotten much less for Miller based on the situation. We'll see how Chytil does before making any judgements. NYR really liked him, and we saw how Kaako was able to pop off after being traded away.
@johnl6277
@johnl6277 15 сағат бұрын
Lots of unknowns so far that we can't fully evaluate for years to come.
@adamlewis5700
@adamlewis5700 9 сағат бұрын
@@satisfyingV Except Heinen is better than O'Connor albeit more expensive. O'Connor might have a bit more upside but that dude can't finish. Big body and skates well though. Heinen is more of a technical and cerebral player though and the more polished NHL player.
@professordogwood8985
@professordogwood8985 17 сағат бұрын
Damn it! THG was really looking forward to having another 1st round pick.
@xaviergermain530
@xaviergermain530 17 сағат бұрын
lol I just watched that video too
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Too bad, now you have to settle for a legit 2D to pair with Soucy so Hronek can move back up to his normal pairing and Myers can settle in on the 3rd line and finally take his veteran role without excessive ice time for a guy his age. and some good top to middle 6 forwards who are younger then the guys they're replacing, so we either get long term productive players for the forseeable future, or valuable assets somebody's gonna want for something we want. Either way we win.
@professordogwood8985
@professordogwood8985 16 сағат бұрын
@ Oh come on now. They could have filled the defense core through other means.
@nicholaslouie7590
@nicholaslouie7590 17 сағат бұрын
I like this a lot for Canucks
@xaviergermain530
@xaviergermain530 17 сағат бұрын
Good god why
@mcj44
@mcj44 17 сағат бұрын
@@xaviergermain530 Petterssons a very high end 2nd pair two way defenseman, aka exactly what the Canucks need.
@kotaplumbingandheating
@kotaplumbingandheating 17 сағат бұрын
@@mcj44exactly he can be a great pair with Hronek/Myers
@shan1302
@shan1302 16 сағат бұрын
@@xaviergermain530 are u dumb this is a amazing traDE AND THE MILLER TRADE IS AMAZING JUST GIVE IT 2 YEARS TILL THE CANUCKS RUN THE LEAGUE
@adamlewis5700
@adamlewis5700 9 сағат бұрын
@@mcj44 I'd tone down the "two way defenseman" part. He really isn't. He is a defensive defenseman who happens to be having a decent year offensively, but his offense is not good.
@MachineGunJanmark
@MachineGunJanmark 15 сағат бұрын
1st round picks are bullets to use for actual players with term , not rentals unless it's clear that a team can win , 1st rounders dwindle fast
@PremiereArtists
@PremiereArtists 17 сағат бұрын
You traded a first for an expiring Marcus contract. This is a salary dump which is cleaning up the mess of signing Heinen and Desharnais. It's not really moving the franchise forward.
@adamtajhassam9188
@adamtajhassam9188 17 сағат бұрын
they will probably get resigned to a quality contract 2) seemed more like a salary cap dump trade:)
@birdmangarage
@birdmangarage 17 сағат бұрын
@@adamtajhassam9188 they could have tried to sign him at the end of the season without giving up a first.
@PremiereArtists
@PremiereArtists 17 сағат бұрын
@adamtajhassam9188 I don't know. I've heard this before many times. They remove Horvat because of Miller. Then they remove Miller because of Pettersson. Canucks fans were laughing at the Oiler fans for stealing Desharnais. Lindholm and Z were supposed to be resigned. The management has no vision.... Demko is now seemingly broken. What is Quinn thinking? The only piece that I like is Mancini and Chytl if he is ever healthy and consistent. But Miller is going to slay in NY.
@cascadian19
@cascadian19 15 сағат бұрын
​@@PremiereArtistsMiller will have to get in shape, jury's out
@michaella5799
@michaella5799 15 сағат бұрын
Everyone allvin signs he trades a year later at a huge loss. Bad gm
@troubleondemand7703
@troubleondemand7703 16 сағат бұрын
Well I can think of one obvious way Allvin has won this trade. I haven't watched a game in over a month now for the first time in years, and I will definitely be tuning in to see what these new acquisitions look like.
@kennythegreat23
@kennythegreat23 17 сағат бұрын
I love this trade
@musicinstrumentalsman
@musicinstrumentalsman 15 сағат бұрын
The fact that nobody can agree whether the trades were good or not probably means they were fair. I don't hate it.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
So basically the real trade was JT Miller for Markus Pettersson and Bransrom for a good looking defensive prospect and as a bonus we got Chytil and O-Connor for Desharnais and Heinen and the NYR pick is a wash as it was never really ours to begin with and really costs us nothing to use it to get a proper top 4 defenseman so we can maybe finally slot Myers in the 3rd line where he can serve us well in his waning years. The big guy has shown flashes of good play, and maybe with sheltered minutes, he can show us more of that and less of the Chaos Giraffe play that costs us penalties and goals that we get mad at him over.
@GreyMatterShades
@GreyMatterShades 15 сағат бұрын
Chaos Giraffe!!! 🤣🤣🤣💀 When you break it down that way, I think the Canucks did pretty decent considering the circumstances. They were in an incredibly weak negotiating position considering how clear it was to everyone that we needed to move Miller, and it was basically public that he'd only waive his no-trade clause to go to NYR. My biggest concerns are 1) Can we re-sign Markus Pettersson and Drew O'Connor (if they fit in well with the team) and 2) Can Chytil stay healthy. If the answer to both is yes, we're probably in a better spot than we were going in.
@Jesse.George
@Jesse.George 14 сағат бұрын
I love this for Pittsburgh heinen will slot right in 3rd to 1st line he’s already done that for Pittsburgh and they get a 1st round pick. Could care less about any of the other pieces PO Joseph replaces Petterson but looks like a win win to me. Pens need to get assets. Gonna miss DOC he’s the man. Hard worker power forward fast plays hard. Yins will love him.
@HansDryden
@HansDryden 14 сағат бұрын
The success of this series of trades, from the GM perspective, hinges on their ability to extend Marcus Petterson.
@roffew.1065
@roffew.1065 8 сағат бұрын
Or they don't extend him and go for Provorov in free agency
@1pbdecoded1pb
@1pbdecoded1pb 16 сағат бұрын
Here is a copy paste of a comment I made 3 hours ago on Lego Rocks 99 JT Miller trade video: Hopefully the Rangers 1st round pick or Vancouver's becomes the Pens for Marcus Pettersson. I NAILED IT. Still wish the Pens got Jett Woo or Elias Pettersson dman prospect in the deal.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Nah, we NEED D-Pettey for our grand Master Plan of building an all Pettersson line! We need MORE Petterssons, give us ALL the Petterssons, BWAHAHAHAHAHA! 😈
@GreyMatterShades
@GreyMatterShades 15 сағат бұрын
@@Seriously_Unserious I hope that if we can assemble a line of all Petterssons, they'll somehow combine like a Swedish Voltron and be unstoppable. Will it happen? Probably not, but only one way to find out! 🤔
@kingbertron420
@kingbertron420 17 сағат бұрын
now do jullsen
@unsainted1638
@unsainted1638 17 сағат бұрын
And forbert
@trevorplater4675
@trevorplater4675 16 сағат бұрын
Julsen is a great 7th dman. He will be that again.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Juulsen to Abbotsford, which should put him on waivers, either he's claimed, or he becomes a mediocre d-man with NHL experience we can call up if somebody gets hurt.
@cascadian19
@cascadian19 15 сағат бұрын
He's like the only toughness they've got right now
@fredbrandl880
@fredbrandl880 10 сағат бұрын
I agree! That’s a pretty soft team now if you look at it.
@kuumzkun3797
@kuumzkun3797 4 сағат бұрын
you missed the most important detail in this deal. Pettersson is a pending UFA on an expiring deal. Did we just pay a 1st for a rental? Just so Alvin/Rutherford could try to fix yet more of their bad signings. Seriously paying a 1st for a rental when we have very few prospects makes no sense. We could have signed him in the summer and still had the first. If we don't have an extension already done this is a horrible trade imo.
@ToastyJP
@ToastyJP 17 сағат бұрын
Not a big fan of this trade. The main reason is because we don’t know when that rangers draft pick will be used. I agree with your point that if it’s this year and 14th overall then yeah, trade the pick and get a player to help us win this year. But if that pick is being used next year and the rangers don’t improve and that pick somehow becomes a lottery pick-that’s where I’m worried. I know that’s a lot of ifs and as a GM you can’t really wait around and think like that but as a fan it concerns me. Also, I guess this means Vancouver is a buyer? I would assume that we are keeping Pettersson (the OG) and even boeser even though they’re rumours of his contract negotiations going badly.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
We still got our regular first rounder, so this cost us nothing in that regard, but got us a problem gone where he can maybe mend and be the JT we loved on the other coast, and I hope he does, as I still like JT, just wasn't meant to be for him to stay here after last Fall shook things up. But Markus Pettersson is a legit 2D, who can move the puck chip in with decent offence, is a big, but mobile guy who can facilitate the controlled break out, giving us 3/6 d-men who can do that, with the other 3 being pure checkers, which is fine in that ratio. And Pettersson's an upgrade on Branstrom who Tocchett couldn't trust to play his system, and will be a Lotto 649 win compared to Noah "Duh... I gotta chase hits" Juulsen!
@macfurry3214
@macfurry3214 17 сағат бұрын
At least they got rid of the Great Statue of Vancouver (formerly Edmonton) Also, can't wait for the announcer says Pettersson to Pettersson to Pettersson.
@CHIPSSALTY
@CHIPSSALTY 17 сағат бұрын
Pettersson to Patterson to Pettersson, then back to Pettersson.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Yeah, we could have an all Pettersson D-line! kind of shades of the good old days of the Sedinery. Reminds me of that line we once had of Sedin, Sedin and Sundin. Man! what a tongue twister that line was, short as it lasted!
@boxvango9021
@boxvango9021 13 сағат бұрын
The 3 Petey age begins! I know JT is a big loss BUT We got a LEGIT top 4 D We got a younger cheaper C back We got a younger cheaper winger We got a bigger, younger, Right handed D prospect that doesn't need waivers We got cap space We got off 2 underperforming players We got out of a situation that went from the room, to the ice, to the press We've got a chance to give this a re-start with MAYBE enough runway to sneak in the post season
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 7 сағат бұрын
You’re entertaining the idea of the Canucks giving up ANOTHER first round pick? They should’ve kept both picks and used them…They gave up JT Miller, they likely aren’t going to make the playoffs now, so why let go first round picks? It made sense for the Rangers, because they get a plausible 1st line centre, and a guy who can produce enough that he can plausibly get the Rangers into the playoffs.
@TyIerGibbs
@TyIerGibbs 17 сағат бұрын
Should have added Juulsen for free.
@mike8099m
@mike8099m 11 сағат бұрын
They probably did and they declined 😂😂😂
16 сағат бұрын
Watch chytil and pettersons turn into studs
@brodieb5066
@brodieb5066 16 сағат бұрын
Watch JT get 100 next season
@ahmedaqeel08
@ahmedaqeel08 15 сағат бұрын
@@brodieb5066when he’s 34 yrs old? I doubt it
15 сағат бұрын
@@ahmedaqeel08 yea
@freefalling6960
@freefalling6960 13 сағат бұрын
@@brodieb5066 JT Miller is good but he is not getting 100pts again.
@Hayden_Hockensmith
@Hayden_Hockensmith 13 сағат бұрын
I'll definitely miss having petey and doc in Pittsburgh, but this is a pretty nice return.
@noland7827
@noland7827 16 сағат бұрын
Just some corrections as a Pens fan here. Pete is "big" but he doesnt play big lol. Only is a LHD. Whereas DOC is a bottom 6 guy, not sure why you said middle to bottom 6 lol. He's ok as a net front prescene but he did go without a goal for like 30ish games this year so
@davidkelty7688
@davidkelty7688 15 сағат бұрын
He probably said middle 6 bc we’ve moved him around alot the last few seasons. Hell we played him on Crosby’s line at one point but he’s definitely a botton 6 talent. A good energy guy but that’s about it. Hope he does well though
@noland7827
@noland7827 15 сағат бұрын
@ Wish him the best!
@BigSleepyJoeCooking
@BigSleepyJoeCooking 16 сағат бұрын
Nucks now have 3 petey so they’ll threepeat as cup champs now right?
@jjkool48
@jjkool48 16 сағат бұрын
How is this good? Marcus Petterson and Drew for Desharnais, Heinen and Fernstrom. What did we get get for the first round pick...nothing??
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
WFT?! You call a top 4 defence that the team's been starving for nothing?! Lacking a top 4 defenceman who can play on the left side is what's been the biggest thing costing the team those leads early in the season. Or trading away millions in AAV from players who weren't really doing anything for us nothing?! that's millions in cap space to keep our players who are actually good. Or bring in someone who's just what the team needs. And we got assets we can move for our 2D if Chytil doesn't work out there. Yup, fixing problems sounds like a whole lotta nothing.
@nukchuu1
@nukchuu1 11 сағат бұрын
They got younger with them, Petterson being the oldest at 28 then Chytil is only 25 and if he can stay healthy could be good 2C Connor 26 has shown good play as a middle 6 but also with Crosby and Malkin at times, Mancini is only 22 but a RHD so will be playing with D Petey in Abby but maybe even get a few games in this season and will see what it takes to resign Petterson but the First Rd pick might have been used for a better top4 but over all decent return should be interesting to see if they try trading Boeser or resign him by the deadline
@Kenny_Mars
@Kenny_Mars 16 сағат бұрын
Dumping Desharnais is great, bum. Marcus Pettersson is a huge upgrade. Denton didnt fit. Im hoping the big kid D from NY turns out.
@darpompie4354
@darpompie4354 17 сағат бұрын
You can't simplify the value of a first round pick by saying you can't wait for a 1st round pick to develop. Regardless of if your "cup window" is now or later a 1st round pick has enormous value. Maybe not this year, but if next year the Canucks have their bleep together and it looks like they can push for a cup, that 1st round pick could help acquire a real great trade deadline piece that most cup contenders do at that time. To squander it away for a 4mil player on a 1 year contract because "we can't wait for a 1st rounder to develop" is a total waste in my books.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
It already did that, by filling the biggest hole in our roster, a top 2 d-man who can move the puck and is not a total liability in his own zone. We just didn't have to wait for the deadline for it to happen is all.
@colinwhitehead4180
@colinwhitehead4180 17 сағат бұрын
Btw we also still have cap space to do more.
@tedlee1848
@tedlee1848 16 сағат бұрын
What do you do when you have problems with your Pettersson? Get another Pettersson. Everybody gets a Pettersson.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
More Petterssons, More Power! First we got Pettey, then we got D-Petttey, now we got DM-Pettey, the Dungeon Master! Now the Canuck's slot will turn into the Dungeon, nobody wants to go there! EDIT, and what's more, DM-Pettey can move the puck well, giving us 3 d-men who can do that, finally! and he plays good in his own zone, and is big, so he's a Tocchett player to boot, so he'll actually get ice time rather then bench time like Branstrom got.
@jimmygrimes4308
@jimmygrimes4308 16 сағат бұрын
Canucks making that push for 5th in the Pacific
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Yes, getting a better d-core, removing a problem, and getting good future assets and guys who can help now and are attractive trade offers for better players is just so shitty. Every team that wants to tank should try it. Trade away your locker room cancer, acquire moveable assets, flip one of them and some dudes who weren't working out for a guy who fills a huge hole in our lineup (Noah Juulsen can go down now) and some good prospects for the future too, while improving now. The perfect plan to tank and rebuild. Who knows, maybe the Canuck's tank plan will backfire catastrophically and we'll have to settle for another Cup run, and maybe even really stick the place out by actually WINNING the damn thing this time around. Oh the horror!
@jimmygrimes4308
@jimmygrimes4308 4 сағат бұрын
@@Seriously_Unserious Flames did it and look how shocked everyone is that they’re making playoffs. JT isn’t the only cancer in that room. They’ve still got 3 guys to get rid of and hearing Quinn doesn’t wanna dedicate himself to that aswell so already an issue with your captain.
@jrsnowden25
@jrsnowden25 8 сағат бұрын
When it concerns the NHL roster, for this trade alone, for this year, Vancouver just got way better. While Heinen is a better finisher than DOC, DOC won’t be nearly as invisible as I remember Heinen being in his previous stint in Pittsburgh. There were times in Pittsburgh when I literally forgot Heinen was on the team. As for MPetterson, he’s worlds better than VD. I think Dubas said it best after the trade regarding both Peterson and O’Conner, “Marcus and Drew have competed day-in and day-out for the organization since the day they arrived. Both players are high-quality people, highly competitive players and zero maintenance for their fellow teammates…”
@MachineGunJanmark
@MachineGunJanmark 15 сағат бұрын
This Trade Makes Sense...........if the Canucks which they were actually contending for cup , which they are not this year, I could understand blowing a 1st last year , but this year ain't it
@ILoveGothWom3n
@ILoveGothWom3n 10 сағат бұрын
Both teams got what they needed from this deal. The pens stock assets and prospects, the Canucks get better on defenseman and a solid bottom 6 forward
@brianmcevoy1990
@brianmcevoy1990 11 сағат бұрын
Miller trade was good for both sides considering Vancouver backed themselves into a corner, but immediately flipping that 1st for Marcus could really blow up in their faces. Time will tell.
@ll7868
@ll7868 17 сағат бұрын
I would have liked to have Vincent Desharnais in Winnipeg, I'd have sent Logan Stanley and Neil Pionk to the Canucks for him and RW Linus Carlson, the kid hasn't shown much at the NHL level but he has a lot of offensive potential.
@ll7868
@ll7868 17 сағат бұрын
"kid". Carlson is 25, but in NHL terms he's still a rookie so...
@c.campbell2057
@c.campbell2057 16 сағат бұрын
i like this trade . not big on the last 1 but something had to be done . now Brock ?
@CanucksNate
@CanucksNate 17 сағат бұрын
Good trade we get better defense and another Petterson 👍
@CanuckFlamesuck
@CanuckFlamesuck 16 сағат бұрын
0 cups
@mjwcanada
@mjwcanada 16 сағат бұрын
now we need all the hughes
@CanuckFlamesuck
@CanuckFlamesuck 16 сағат бұрын
0 cups
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
I kept saying a trade for spare parts in return for Miller can flip into something good, and low and behold! JT for a pick and prospects, Pick for Markus Pettersson BABY! All in ONE DAY!
@GreyMatterShades
@GreyMatterShades 15 сағат бұрын
So now we have Petey, D-Petey, and Three-Petey. Nice! 😂 Only two more Peteys and we can go full Petey in some sort of unstoppable Swedish Voltron line!
@brodprod
@brodprod 14 сағат бұрын
Might as well change the team name to Swedish Mafia. 😂
@TRILLGFP
@TRILLGFP 12 сағат бұрын
There were previous talks about trading Miller to Ptts for Petterson and OConnor anyways so basically we got rid of two players for Mancini and Chytil
@MatzeMB85
@MatzeMB85 11 сағат бұрын
The big upside here is that now when they blame Pettersson for being the problem they have a larger chance of being right.
@rangersraven1453
@rangersraven1453 4 сағат бұрын
People have been harsh on Allvin and Jimbo for how they handled the situation and rightfully so, but we have got to admit that the way they manouevred out of this situation. We got a cheap centre (who's expiry lines up with Quinn Hughes' UFA) who could possibly play better hockey like Kakko after moving out of NY, we got our third defensemen for the next years (assuming we are re-signing Peterson), dumped two (!!!!!) horrible contracts, and didn't give up major future assets (just Fernstrom and Branny if you count Branny as a "future") while picking up a prospect Dean who will be ready in 25/26. We will see, of course if Chytil and O'Connor would gel with this team, but I'm not decently content with how it played out.
@amidahshinduke
@amidahshinduke 8 сағат бұрын
Jt miller 35 points Chytle 20 points Marcus petterson 18 points
@MrTekbiz
@MrTekbiz 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks for a good balanced take. Do you think that they try to retain Marcus Petterson long term?
@Island1-b5h
@Island1-b5h 16 сағат бұрын
Yes, they will re sign him
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
I think baring a total meltdown by Markus, they sign him long term, and they got the cap space to do it, and retain Boesser if they want to too now, and assuming Boesser wants to stay, though I've seen no reason so far why he wouldn't.
@cascadian19
@cascadian19 15 сағат бұрын
If he pulls a Zadorov and has an epic playoff and goes looking for a fast bag, probably not. But if he stays at 4 he'll stay for sure
@thomasfarnell1
@thomasfarnell1 15 сағат бұрын
Like trade too B+ Miller trade C+
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
Miller trade is what made the Pens trade you like possible, it was the Miller trade pick being flipped that finished the deal. I kept saying the only way to move Miller is to get prospects and flip them for what we're really looking for and that's exactly what they did, and with enough time until the deadline to make other flips or go all in on a rebuild if the team continues to tank like they did in January.
@ryan5307
@ryan5307 15 сағат бұрын
Goal Pettersson 1st assist Pettersson 2nd assist Pettersson
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
Dallas has a Pettersson. Maybe we can get him too? Then we just need to find one more to complete the 5 man line of Petterssons.
@samuelpratt642
@samuelpratt642 12 сағат бұрын
If there is already an extension agreed on, this will be win. If not, complete L.
@ZKarim-kk4ku
@ZKarim-kk4ku 17 сағат бұрын
Second year in a row paying v high price for a rental!
@trevorplater4675
@trevorplater4675 16 сағат бұрын
Only a rental if you don't resign them. They will be able to keep them. Drastically improves the team.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
@@trevorplater4675 I agree. They got plenty of cap space to resign both pens, especially Markus Pettersson, and even keep Brock and hopefully make him a Canuck 4 life.
@jayt3096
@jayt3096 5 сағат бұрын
@@Seriously_UnseriousBrock’s gone by trade deadline
@Pgh_heather_412
@Pgh_heather_412 17 сағат бұрын
I thought that petey would fetch a 2nd. Maybe it moved to a 1st when the pens took salary back?? Heinen was with the pens previously. Not sure why he would be a player they wanted back. I think Vancouver won this trade.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
Pens got a good prospect of a 20 year old d-man, maybe in 3 or 4 years, that guy'll crack the Pen's line and be a top pairing guy? Maybe you'll get something amazing for that NYR pick either this year or next? Who knows. Your core is getting old and it's time for the Pens to find some hatchlings to grow into a new dynasty.
@shaylelarue787
@shaylelarue787 3 сағат бұрын
We will never have a 1st round pick ever
@-TurboS
@-TurboS 17 сағат бұрын
The Canucks going to pull 2012 LAK Run
@AJ-ox6yi
@AJ-ox6yi 17 сағат бұрын
So Miller and Pettersson did get traded. Marcus that is.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Now all we need is to get Dallas' Pettersson, then we're just 1 away from a full 5 man Pettersson unit. Call it The Pettey Line if we can swing that deal!
@roffew.1065
@roffew.1065 12 сағат бұрын
Honestly Canucks needed to shake things up. We've been bad this season
@jdjl7223
@jdjl7223 15 сағат бұрын
They got rid of the attitude and the contract.
@PabloDiabloTreasures
@PabloDiabloTreasures 15 сағат бұрын
what makes Marcus Pettersson so good? is he really 6'5" and only 174 lbs? I think Vancouver clearly lost this trade.
@dancrew6721
@dancrew6721 16 сағат бұрын
I hate this trade... all we've heard is that we need another puck moving dman; that is NOT Marcus Petterson. And giving up a 1st for Hronek, I was good with that, but not for Petterson.
@noland7827
@noland7827 16 сағат бұрын
Well M. Petterson allows his D Partner to play their offensive game without worry. So I think you will see some uptick in that area if not directly by him
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Dude, look at his stats, he's got decent offensive production, and that doesn't come by accident. D-men only get points if they know how to shoot and move the puck, and who'd you rather we have out there, Myers logging top line minutes? Noha "Duh... I gotta chase hits" Juulsen? Who?! I'd rather we have 3/6 who can move the puck but are not a liability defensively, and 3/6 who are pure bruisers and checkers who'll turn the Canucks slot into the House of Pain. 3 to break it out, 3 to hurt the other team and stifle them. Works for me.
@fredbrandl880
@fredbrandl880 10 сағат бұрын
Pretty soon the whole team is gonna be named Pettersson. The Vancouver Petterssons or the Vancouver Swedes. Take your pick.
@andyd2998
@andyd2998 13 сағат бұрын
Canucks got rid of two anchors which is great. Fernstrom may be a sleeper in this trade.
@DavidL.-qq9vi
@DavidL.-qq9vi 15 сағат бұрын
This trade is an A makes up for the Miller trade!!
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
This trade happened BECAUSE Of the Miller trade. We don't get those flippable assets for Miller, we don't get our 2D and other useful or flippable assets from Pits.
@NobuhikuObayashi
@NobuhikuObayashi 17 сағат бұрын
I love drew O’Connor. I’ll miss him.
@spadesjoker1674
@spadesjoker1674 14 сағат бұрын
I’m if meyers keeps playing well we have a really good Top 4 defence
@LA_Mamba
@LA_Mamba 16 сағат бұрын
Trading nyr pick? Vancouver doesn't have confidence in their team. If it's top 13, you get unprotected pick next year. That just doesn't make sense to me.
@noland7827
@noland7827 16 сағат бұрын
Rangers going to be picking 28-32 the next 5 years lol
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
Getting the asset we really needed desperately for a pick that may or may not be anything makes perfect sense. Since Some of our d-men didn't work out, we've been hurting for a top 4 d-man who can move the puck, and now we got it in Pettersson. the other assets we got are not bad either, we can either use them, or flip them for more. We were never going to get what we really wanted for Miller so this is the best way to do it, get what somebody else wants for Miller and lip it for what we want. The lack of a reliable 2nd pair has been killing the team all season long. The lack of anyone outside the top line who can move the puck up ice and get more controlled break outs has been killing them too, as it leads to too much time trapped in our own zone where bad things are inevitably going to start happening sooner or later, rather then in the other team's zone where good things will be bound to happen if we keep them hemmed in for long enough. So trading a pick means they have confidence in the core that remains to make a push, and in their ability to find a 2C to take the spot before the deadline.
@ourlittleadventures519
@ourlittleadventures519 9 сағат бұрын
Dubas, in 1.5 years, has beefed up the Pens draft (2-1st round picks in 2025 AND most likey top 10 picks) also the farm system which goaltender wise is amongst the best with a number of guys knocking on the door at NHL ready. So, this trade Pitt loses Pettersson, ok I get it but he'll receive 6 million per year next year after a new contract, right? The O'Connor piece well, his best year he played 25 games with Crosby so Pens didn't lose much. The Pens receive the 1st, Heinen (better than O'Connor) a big tough defenseman who will play better in Pitt without all the drama of Van, and a prospect who may take 4-5 years still which is totally fine because Pens have a few guys ready now. I believe Pens won!
@byronloveridge8381
@byronloveridge8381 15 сағат бұрын
He weighs less than 176 pounds, wtf are we doing
@Jesse.George
@Jesse.George 14 сағат бұрын
I love this for Pittsburgh heinen will slot right in 3rd to 1st line he’s already done that for Pittsburgh and they get a 1st round pick. Could care less about any of the other pieces PO Joseph replaces Petterson but looks like a win win to me. Pens need to get assets
@matsinilsson9578
@matsinilsson9578 10 сағат бұрын
That my friend is a great trade actually.
@tokki9864
@tokki9864 17 сағат бұрын
canucks got fleeced on the miller trade, but this trade is really good.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
The Miller trade was what made this trade. I kept saying they'll get futures for JT, then flip some or all of them to another team JT wasn't going to to get what we really wanted. And that's what we did!
@tokki9864
@tokki9864 15 сағат бұрын
@@Seriously_Unserious yes i know, but if you judge each trade separately. this trade is a good one.
@Tarquin21723
@Tarquin21723 8 сағат бұрын
G by Petterson A by Petterson, Petterson
@davidkelty7688
@davidkelty7688 15 сағат бұрын
I’m extremely happy as a Pens fan but I think yinz should be happy too. We need to rebuild and yinz need to retool, so it’s a win win imo 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
@chad4801
@chad4801 14 сағат бұрын
If they can get dylan cozens now for futures then were a better team. 1c petey 2c cozens 3c chytil
@thegreatbadon8033
@thegreatbadon8033 17 сағат бұрын
3 headed monster with pettersson
@4517onlyglory
@4517onlyglory 17 сағат бұрын
Sendins resurrect 😂😂😂😂😂 this team is a joke, first round pick for two expired contracts
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
You're probably still shell-shocked from a decade of Benning Contracts. Get the alien concept into your mind... WE HAVE CAP SPACE, AND LOTS OF IT! We can re-sign those expiring contracts, AND Boesser, AND pick up a rental if we need one! Only Garland remains of the Benning Contracts and he's grown into it and is worth every cent of his contract.
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 7 сағат бұрын
Canucks should be keeping and using these 1st round picks. This season is looking like a lost cause, especially now that Miller is gone.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 6 сағат бұрын
@@JT-gi8rx Miller being gone may well be what saves this season and core. Much as I love him, I can admit he wasn't in a good spot here, since November. Something happened and he went into a downward spiral that was disastrous for the team and JT, so I'm happy to see him go and get a fresh start away from the drama, while he still has good years of hockey left in him. And as for the pick, that was obviously gotten to seal the deal to get Markus Pettersson, a 2D who can move the puck that the Canucks have been looking for since last July, who just wasn't available until now. They also got someone who they can try out at 2C, a good depth winger, and someone who's young, with future top 4 potential on D, and who can finally allow us to close the books on Noah Juulsen (Thank God!).
@samslone9457
@samslone9457 6 сағат бұрын
Messy management work makes them do stupid trades just to try to nullify previous stupid mistakes, giving away povks along the way
@doctoryes539
@doctoryes539 17 сағат бұрын
I expect AV and Pettersson should have commitiment for contract extension otherwise I don't think AV will gamble 1st round pick for soon to be UFA
@staffan144
@staffan144 15 сағат бұрын
Vancouver overpaid (with giving away the first round pick) since Pittsburgh has tried to trade pettersson for a long time
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 14 сағат бұрын
Not really, we also gave away dead cap with 2 guys who really weren't fitting here, and got that top 4 blueliner we've been looking for since last summer. And a good young bottom 6 player who could develop into a middle to top 6 player in a few years, along with some other middle and top 6 players, and a very good looking d prospect who shoots right, something hard to find currently. I'd call it a fair trade under the circumstances.
@genegtaylor
@genegtaylor 17 сағат бұрын
Vancouver couldn't complete their Hughes collection, so instead is going for Petterssons?
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 16 сағат бұрын
Dallas has a Pettersson. Does anybody else have one? We need 5 for an all Pettersson line.
@alanfawcett2634
@alanfawcett2634 11 сағат бұрын
Let the rebuild begin!! See ya in 7 years.... or whenever Vancouver can make the playoffs again 😂
@nm3724
@nm3724 15 сағат бұрын
heinen has taken a few bad penalties this season and desharnais is dogshit... but giving up a 1st for a winger swap and getting rid of desharnais for pettersson??? are there more conditions on that pick?
@NobuhikuObayashi
@NobuhikuObayashi 17 сағат бұрын
Just call Marcus Petterson dragon
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
I get it... Pettey -- D-Pettey - DM-Pettey, "welcome to my dungeon" said the DM Pettey to the winger, before stripping him of the puck and passing it up ice to EP40 for a rush.
@Island1-b5h
@Island1-b5h 16 сағат бұрын
Canucks have more cap space now as well.
@jimmygrimes4308
@jimmygrimes4308 16 сағат бұрын
Canucks took 3 Ls today
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
The game was an L, but the trades were nothing but Ws. We got that d hole fille dnow, Juulsen can go to the AHL where he belongs. We got a guy to fill in for Miller until we can do another flip for the 2C we really want, or he can develop into it, who knows, he's young. We got a 22 year old d-man who's a potential future top 4 guy in 3 or 4 years, and can be a straight upgrade on Juulsen even now. And we got a winger who scores about the same as Heinen, but is years younger and can either be developed into a middle 6 guy, or flipped for a middle 6 guy now. We dumped salary from guys who weren't working out. We dumped a major source of distraction and drama. I'd call all those huge wins. I don't know why you'd think those are losses, unless you like having the team fighting among themselves, miserable and hating life and blowing the season, and wasting a generational talent and the best player to ever don a Canucks jersey "wins".
@jimmygrimes4308
@jimmygrimes4308 4 сағат бұрын
@ if you’re rebuilding it’s a W if you’re looking to push past the 5th place in Pacific it’ll be a major backfire. Plus they get rid of a top 10 pick
@dansmaaslet6623
@dansmaaslet6623 5 сағат бұрын
Canucks get better defensively on the flip side they get worse offensively
@emanuelgonzalez3967
@emanuelgonzalez3967 8 сағат бұрын
Marcus to elias to elias and goal lol
@_singram1588
@_singram1588 15 сағат бұрын
We are done. Rutherford and Allvin are worse than Gillis or Benning.
@satisfyingV
@satisfyingV 16 сағат бұрын
I don't hate it!
@Platnatimingbelt
@Platnatimingbelt 17 сағат бұрын
Joke of a stanchise gonna be nice golfing for the next couple decades
@Habsfan56744
@Habsfan56744 10 сағат бұрын
There obsessed with the pettersons
@annabellalittle1767
@annabellalittle1767 7 сағат бұрын
I am soooo sad we will mess you miller
@grantvanderhoek
@grantvanderhoek 15 сағат бұрын
Team Sweden 🇸🇪
@tony373
@tony373 16 сағат бұрын
In other words, everyone is trading garbage around lol...
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
Correction: In other words, the Canucks just filled a catastrphic hole in their lineup, by getting that missing top 4 d who can move the puck up ice, move some dead cap off the team and got some prospects and guys we can use now in return, and moved the drama across coast so the team can focus on playing hockey free of the distractions. I'd call that a pair of good deals. The Rnagers get a guy who's capable of 90+ points, is big and can hit and be a net front presence, forecheck and make plays, and a d-man who while not the best in his own zone, can move the puck well and generate offense from the back side. The Pens get some guys they can try to turn around, and a 20 year old prospect and a pick. Sounds like a trade everyone can potentially win.
@robertmulligan7475
@robertmulligan7475 16 сағат бұрын
Brutal 2nd deal...following a not great first deal. Yeesh.
@Seriously_Unserious
@Seriously_Unserious 15 сағат бұрын
yeah, so horrible that we got the guy we've been looking for all season long, who'll replace Juulsen in our back 6, and allow Myers to get 3rd line minutes where he can excell, all while dumping dead cap player who aren't even doing much for us, and getting younger players we can either use or flip for more of what we really want. yeah, such horrible deals, what a nightmare, the team might actually turn thigns around and start WINNING again and force us to admit that once again, the Vancouver Cancuks are good! I know it's horrible for you, who's gotten so used to the Canucks sucking. Canucks winning more then they lose must be really far outside your comfort zone after a decade of Benning and 2 years of fixing Benning's mess.
@biggerxpapa
@biggerxpapa 7 сағат бұрын
Pettersseption
@3quipto
@3quipto 5 сағат бұрын
Heinen was way too slow
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