I got SteelRim , after a month dust went in to the inner glass, and some spots spots found at the front element, I returned it to the dealer for a service, and to my surprise Leica Australia replaced with a new one. What a fantastic service. My copy is perfect, no aperture ring wobble, smooth focus, and on top of that beautiful images and colour.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
That’s great! Good to hear!
@D.Trider5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. You’re the type of guy I could just sit and chat about Leica over a frosty cold beer. 🍻
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
haha thanks for the kind words!
@joshuarothman5 ай бұрын
FWIW-I own both the new Steel Rim and the Nokton and I vastly prefer the Steel Rim. I don't feel that they're actually comparable lenses. It's true that at f/1.4 the Steel Rim's glow is kind of out of control, but there are times when that's actually useful, when you want those glowing highlights. And at f/1.7 the glow is tamed a great deal, and the sharpness and texture of the images stands out to me. From f/2 I find that the SR is like the perfect Summicron / Ultron that I always wanted, with a vintage OOF look but modern contrast and gentle falloff. Overall I find the pictures more vibrant and the colors richer with the Steel Rim. The differences are very visible to me after shooting thousands of photos of all kinds with both lenses. Not to say that the Nokton isn't a great lens, especially for the price. But I don't think these types of test shots can really capture what makes a lens unique-for that you need to really shoot a lot in a variety of real-life situations. In terms of build quality: I like the handling of my Steel Rim quite a lot, but I also wish that the aperture ring were more dampened. I shoot it without a hood, using just a filter on the lens. No lens is perfect, and I feel that the Steel Rim is quite a niche lens, but for me it's proven to be my one-and-done 35mm.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed your copy!
@GastonShutters5 ай бұрын
Yes!! Popcorn in hand. About to make my review in a few days too. Love this lens after DAG tighten the aperture with a 10 days turnaround and paid around $120.
@rexgigout14725 ай бұрын
Well-done! Beautiful images! No surprises. I agree with your findings. I test-shot a Voigtlander Nokton II MC at a coffee shop meet-up about a year ago. Then, last May or early June, I test-shot a pre-aspherical Summilux Version II, a demonstrator Summilux ASPH FLE, and my Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM, together, at a Leica dealer. Then, at the end of June, Leica USA, in New Jersey, received a shipment of the Re-Edition Steel Rim lenses. I ordered quickly, before they were sold-out. I was blessed to receive a good one. My Re-Edition Steel Rim Summilux may well remain my only Leica-brand M lens to have been bought new, rather than pre-owned, so, I am glad that it was a positive experience.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
I'm glad your copy is a good! Quite a few ppl have to deal with QC issues lately.
@CrueLoaf4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 35mm Summilux f1.4 from 1981. It’s got a wonderful vintage character.
@j.k56542 ай бұрын
Thanks Jimmy. To my eyes, the film images make this lens a super star than the digital ones.
@amaniahnuar5 ай бұрын
i LOVE the look of that MAP exclusive Nokton Classic. Brass, the barrel design is very much like the first version but the optical used the second version which reduces the focus shift. it's SUCH a beautiful package! (edit: seems like MAP exclusive might use the v1 optical design, apologies from me) I do think the focus shift in Nokton is causing that loss of sharpness and that's a common problem among lens of that formula. Refocusing differently might be the solution but it's not a big deal especially on mirrorless.
@kurocamera5 ай бұрын
The glass used is the V1 for the Map version, not V2 unfortunately.
@amaniahnuar5 ай бұрын
@@kurocamera interesting. i may have mistaken because i read somewhere Voigtlander used the new dispersion element there but i Googled again, some says it's the version 1 too. Sorry for the wrong info!
@dlyon96735 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very interesting, honest review. Your photos look beautiful! And now I'm very interested in searching out the Nokton.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Ha! Not what I expected I thought you would want the Steel Rim haha. They are all good lenses!
@dlyon96735 ай бұрын
I'm curious as to how these lenses might compare to the new Nokton f1.5 35mm lenses -- maybe another video?@@JimmyCheng
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
@@dlyon9673 well honestly you can’t really compare the 1.5 ii to these old design lenses. The 1.5 is much sharper with its aspherical design, especially in the corners. That’s why I compared it with the lux asph and the thypoch 35 asph in my last video. Optically they are in different leagues.
@dlyon96735 ай бұрын
Oh, that's very good to know. Thank you. @@JimmyCheng
@wilfredshum37035 ай бұрын
I have your titanium version of the pre-ASPH and the reissued steel rim. Both have that Leica glow at wide open aperture. It is a bit hard to definitively say which lens is better because the glass of the vintage one might have some imperfections that I am not aware of. I probably should use these two lenses more than the vintage 35 mm Summaron f/2.8 lens that I like a lot. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience as well!
@emmanueltsI55 ай бұрын
that chrome nokton renders as it should plus is a beauty. Quite unfortunate that VC do not offer this under their regular line-up. Thx for the video!
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
thanks for the comment. Yeah that chrome Nokton is such a beauty
@kurocamera5 ай бұрын
Titanium pre asph is the best! Love it :D
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s handsome!
@Paco_TG5 ай бұрын
Great review and video. Thank you.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@akesun13 ай бұрын
Thank you for a honest review😀
@Igyuanliu__5 ай бұрын
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@hdm-nm5 ай бұрын
The Voigtlander 35 1.4 Nokton II currently sold addresses the issues of the v1 optics: distortion, focus shift, and field curvature. The Map Camera version is the old v1. It's too bad we don't have a v2 version with the brass construction of the v1 Map Camera special edition.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Hmm. Unfortunately there's still quite a bit of distortion and field curvature as you can see from the test photos (I tested the v2 mc not v1).
@hdm-nm5 ай бұрын
@@JimmyCheng I see. I'd read the vII improved on all those issues over the vI, but perhaps not as much as I thought. Thank you for the clarification. I thought you were using the Map Camera version for the testing, but I probably wasn't paying close enough attention.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
@@hdm-nm nah it was my bad, I forgot to point out it is the v2. I have not really test them side by side tbh, I thought the map camera one has the newer optic. I'll do some comparison to see if that is or is not the case.
@hdm-nm5 ай бұрын
@@JimmyCheng Yes, it's my understanding that there are two types of the version I: the regular black production version and the special edition silver Map Camera version. And I read there is only one version II, which is also black. If there is indeed a silver and brass vII, it would mean Map Camera made two separate special editions.
@richardsimms2513 ай бұрын
Nice video. Thank you RS. Canada
@theodahlem8574 ай бұрын
Great review Jimmy. Where to find the Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm f/1.4 Silver Map Camera Special edition M Steel Rim?
@GunstonGun2 ай бұрын
i own the germany copy of V2 pre-A, was quite intrigued with the steel rim reissue look, after viewing your review, it deter me to pull the trigger due to ... not so solid build.
@junichinomura48105 ай бұрын
nice comparison video jimmy, and about that leica steel rim many complaint in that build quality maybe they are build or assembled in Portugal not germany ? 😅 because many of leica Summicron lenses are made there and also so can make more of that in order. I will stick to my Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm F1.5 II. it`s small enough and great built quality than that NOkton 35mm F1.4 even on the mark 2 version side by side I tried it.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
They are built in Germany as far as I know (as engraved), Only a handful of lenses are built in Portugal and they are cheaper than the German counterparts actually. The 35 1.5 ii is my favourite 35 right now! Sharp yet with smooth bokeh.
@wheezzy1015 ай бұрын
It is a love hate relationship for me. The SR is my favorite lens I have used but its currently in Germany because the aperture ring seized up and was very hard to move. So we will see....going on Month #3 of it being gone. Kind of thinking of picking up a v2 and selling the SR when I get it back.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
is yours the remake or original?
@wheezzy1015 ай бұрын
@@JimmyCheng I have the reissue. It was even the newer version that included the thinner hood.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
@@wheezzy101 Great! I'm glad that you enjoyed the lens (at least more than I did).
@AdamCzarnowski3 ай бұрын
I picked up a black v2 lux and hood in perfect shape for roughly half what the steel rim remake would cost. A magic lens.
@ianforber5 ай бұрын
I am thinking about saving up for the steel rim but, in the meantime, I got the Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 Nokton. A bit bigger than the f1.4 but I can live with that as I found the f1.4 just a bit difficult to use. It’s so good I’m wondering whether to bother saving up for any other 35mm
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
the 1.5ii in brass is my current fav vm 35
@Mrcj06305 ай бұрын
請問是否所有leica的鏡頭 光圈環都會有輕微上下郁動的感覺 我的apo好像有點
@peterebel78995 ай бұрын
Glow is generated by lens geometry, not by coating.
@webersteve15475 ай бұрын
Is the steel rim not made of brass? I didn't expected this
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
It’s made of brass, but somehow it feels very plasticky. I don’t know how Leica manage to do that actually 🤣
@TheVFXbyArt5 ай бұрын
Ever think you’d ever walk into a leica store and ask for a steel rim job and be charged thousands?!😂
I think the glow on the 8-element at f2.0 is just right, and the steel rim or pre-asph at f1.4 is a bit too much. As for the build quality, for sure, Leica has cut corners for modern products. I doubt i will buy any of these newer lenses (newer than 11663) because of the look, ergonomics, or build quality, and that’s a big problem for leica.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
agree and agreed
@huanliya5 ай бұрын
东京旅游会出期节目吗?
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
应该会!
@yikongxu61155 ай бұрын
啊,这个不是发过吗
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
没有啊
@yikongxu61155 ай бұрын
@@JimmyCheng哦哦我记错了!没开声音以为是leica 维修回来的那台钢嘴
@ccoppola825 ай бұрын
I cannot believe a premium product takes 6 months to replace a manufacturer defect. That’s unacceptable.
@dacookieman_5 ай бұрын
It's a rite of passage for every Leica user. Besides your camera freezing on you. 😂
@ccoppola825 ай бұрын
@@dacookieman_ I’ve oddly never bought a new Leica item. All used and I guess I’ve been lucky. The only thing I had to do once was replace the focus tab in my 35 pre asph lux. I got it so cheap because of the broken tab and it took a $40 part to repair.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a bit of an unfortunate situation for Leica users out there. But at least they replaced it and send back the updated hood instead of the original design.
@frankphotography84705 ай бұрын
Great review, it’s seems that the SR is a little underwhelming
@kade30875 ай бұрын
P R O M O S M
@klarkolofsson5 ай бұрын
Half a year later? That's unacceptable for the price. Simple as that.
@JimmyCheng5 ай бұрын
this has been the turn-around time if you send anything to Germany these days unfortunately. If I include the communication time, it's 8 months.
@klarkolofsson5 ай бұрын
@@JimmyChengI will not buy any new Leica gear anytime soon. Thank you for the information.
@michelbirnbacher5 ай бұрын
I think, they did a little bit of new production/design staff and send you the „new“ version - so you had to wait for delivery????
@kevin-parratt-artist13 күн бұрын
The re-make is poorly made and overpriced .
@JimmyCheng13 күн бұрын
agreed. Pricing wise I think is fine, but the build quality is simply not there.