Lemons Wrapup--NJMP '23

[@chrisfix]

Don’t lie… Lemons is very hard to do well… now if you just want to do some laps it’s cake for the first 15 😅

[@cjanderson1192]

We made it a whole 2 hours then our m54 5series threw the oil pump apart.

[@sebastienmeyer2265]

At this point, opening the hood of the red VW Golf might become a penalty for next races 😅

[@williamshaw1404]

the secondary safety latch spring was jammed shut (the latch controlled by pulling the release on the hood, not the release in the car), we ended up cutting it off!

[@ghomerhust]

the second pull on a mk4 ALWAYS breaks and is a nightmare to get open at that point. normally, when you pop the hood from inside, then give it a slight lift, a little plastic T pops out above the grill and you just yank on that and its open. but they break off and it's neigh impossible to get ahold of the little bit inside there to actually pop it.

[@williamshaw1404]

@@ghomerhust Exactly this! But we still had access to the T-handle that pops out. But even pulling on that didn't get the secondary latch to move. The connection between the t-handle and latch is what broke in our case making it even more difficult!

[@terryeck3304]

Best "Lemons In a Nutshell" yet!

[@transamericanlife]

I concur, tens across the board!

[@nick4506]

those are suzuki motorcyle engines. if they are watching this if those are bandit 1200 motors they need 150 main jets cause the pod filters change the pressure dynamics that mutch. that's the size that came in the long defunct ivans performance and holeshot kits. will also be witcked lean at idle but whatever. also get stiffer clutch springs, it will let you run car oil withought the clutch slipping. after that just put whateverW50 in it and those oil boilers will run till the end of time, prepare to dominate.

[@dumntuftv8853]

I'll hunt them down and send this info. I want to see that mofo run! It's an insane and awesome build.

[@gregobrien4925]

We built the Tempo. You are correct, they are twin 90s Bandit 1200 engines. The pod filters have been a topic of much discussion within the team. CV carbs always hate pod filters but the stock air boxes compete obstruct the driver's view so they are a necessity. We are experimenting with plastic restrictors in the pod filters to pull a stronger vacuum signal and just get them to respond like they do in stock configuration. Hoping not to go down the road of rejetting, but it may come to that. So far the Suzuki clutches are a non-issue, they are only used during the start-up procedure. We keep the motorcycle transmissions locked in 4th gear. They chain drive the input shaft in the transmission which has a conventional automotive diaphragm clutch used when underway and we shift the gears in the transaxle. We will be doing some testing at speed on a team members 1/4 long paved farm lane later this month. If we run into problems with those areas I'll reach out to you.

[@DeepBarney]

Or just run shell rotella T4, or most any heavy duty diesel engine oil, since they don't have the friction modifiers that'll make the clutch slip. Stronger clutch springs would be a good idea anyways since you're trying to get a fair bit more weight moving.

[@nick4506]

@@gregobrien4925 yea you will probably have to rejet. the stock main jet is around 103 if i remember correctly. witch is on a completely different planet to what you need with the airfilters. the float bowls are jis screwdriver. its easy to strip with a normal screwdriver, especially if they have never been opened before.

[@nick4506]

@@DeepBarney yea rotella is an option, it passes jaso ma2 like motorcycle oil. when I was building my bandit 1200 after airfilters, jetting, and a slip on exhaust the stock clutch would slip in a pull even with the expencive proper motorcycle oil. barnet clutch springs (they are big belleville washers on this bike) solved it. still worked through the friction modifiers of car oil too witch was nice when touring.

[@TommiMakkinen]

Legend has it that the red Golf is still in New Jersey and the guys are still trying to open it to this day…

[@matthewcox7985]

5:10 - what they used to prop the hood open... 🤣 🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋

[@Channel-ru8pt]

It came with the car it's only fitting. Also matches the paint

[@mizorefn]

That mid engine honda powered mustang needs a lemons world episode about it

[@victorkrivor2174]

If only that amazon oil held up... maybe next year we'll try Kirkland Signature!

[@transamericanlife]

Do not use Amazon oil in your Amazon!

[@bobroberts2371]

I'm hearing that gas station no name pre colored aged oil that sells for $ 8 a qt is best.

[@mikepittinaro3093]

@@transamericanlife We didn't! We ran our usual Mobil1, but the engine spun a big end rod bearing. Knock knock, who's there? Zero oil pressure!

[@jeffhurckes190]

Some say that the VW team is still there trying to open their hood.

[@dylanpeck7902]

Trust me we got it open after I caught fire at the end of the first day 😢

[@williamshaw1404]

Sorry our car got a little anxious once it rolled up to the inspection station. But we did eventually end up getting it open!

[@MirehManuh]

i actually want to watch the races but being someone not in america XD would it be hard to setup a full live stream from pitlane or so//

[@dumntuftv8853]

not even the people at the track watch the races, the racing isn't good.

[@chrishaase]

A couple of teams live stream the race.

[@mjrchapin]

I kinda hope Heaven has a Lemons Section. Seriously, what better way to spend eternity?

[@pmkstudios]

Vannonball is legend! deserves his own trophy and or class. imagine a race combining the dodgeball balls with 2 vans with side doors surgically removed to allow peppering the competition with balls. Insurance would probably kybosh it but it would be a great team for the long awaited sequel cannonball run- revenge of the jedi!

[@dumntuftv8853]

You have inspired me to figure out ways to use the doors more offensively during paddock parties.

[@eddiebrown2089]

Killing it as usual guys!

[@mikepittinaro3093]

2009: Spin rod bearing, change engine ... 2023: Rerun of 2009. Tunachuckers learn from history, but it takes us awhile. Thanks for the Org Choice and the mention in the video. The Amazon is getting the damage inflicted by the T-boning Jaguar repaired, and will be back...

[@peteleivo2247]

I would so love to bring a Seat Cordoba to Lemons one day, just to throw you guys off, and get a hilarious Cordoba meme about it. Unfortunately, I think that car is a Europe special, and shipping it would be damn expensive. And shipping myself as well.

[@gillantroisi5937]

Always love New Jersey guy in the opener

[@WrenchingtoRace]

Great wrap up guys! Look out, we almost got our first win...that is until we blew an oil cooler line! See you guys in NH...

[@Banks4004]

Good attitude toward the not Chrysler bently bimmer

[@jamesonpace726]

Just awesome....

[@BlueTrane2028]

Was an awesome race weekend for sure.

[@ghomerhust]

NJMP always brings it!

[@makingtechsense126]

Great recap. I laughed out loud several times.

[@UberLummox]

Jeep/AMC 4.0 I-6 sounds like the way to go. Someone should stick one in an old Jag-wire. Preferably a '67-'68 420-compact.

[@isaactrockman4417]

Put a Jeep xj I-6 in a jaguar XJ-6

[@UberLummox]

@@isaactrockman4417 For sure, that too.

[@chilledpenguins8381]

Oh man, that poor Integra team. Last year in New Hampshire, they spent friday testing and tuning a new engine. It then blew 30 minutes into saturday. They spent all of saturday swapping it out for the one that had been in there. Finished up sunday morning, went out and burnt through their clutch immediately. Had to spend sunday dropping everything back out to replace the clutch, and maybe got 50 total laps in all weekend. Seems like their bad luck streak continues.

[@patrickmcneilly4293]

I think I heard "Bell's Mansion" and now I want some bread...

[@pkaczynski]

That’s right!!

[@matthewcox7985]

So why are you loafing around? Get over to the baker and baguette! 😁

[@cooperturbo4598]

Looks very much like oil cooled Suzukis engine and not Yamaha though …

[@gregobrien4925]

They are twin 90s Suzuki Bandit 1200 air/oil cooled engines. We chose them because they are simple, dirt cheap, and have a broad powerband for moving a car. One of them is pushing 100k miles 😮 😅😅😅

[@DanArnets1492]

​@@gregobrien4925- If you want a car-worthy motorbike engine, next time go for an old Yamaha FJR1100/1300 engine (the engine from Legends cars) - They seem to do rather well and have a broad powerband

[@dcj8]

...Why all the shotgun shells in the orange Beemer?

[@Channel-ru8pt]

Will forever remain a mystery (its my car)

[@dcj8]

@@Channel-ru8pt Congratulations on a Lemons build that will (hopefully) Dominate!

[@matthewcox7985]

The leftovers from someone doing shots?

[@Skasaha_]

That Sunbeam/Le Mans coincidence for the IoEs is hella freaky.

[@chrishaase]

SL1, SL1, SL1, SL1....DOMINATION!

[@draco7694]

And damnit that paint job looks professional too.

[@pkaczynski]

Dodge ball after the pot luck was the highlight

[@Iamthestig42069]

That BMW is just begging for a need for speed most wanted theme

[@JC_MikeB]

Hey whatever happened to Lemons Carspotting?

[@the-real-zpero]

How do you buy an MR2 Spyder for less than $7,000?

[@bpinsf]

Dat Hudson, tho... 🤩

[@tnmoe-]

I thought the thing sane "racing" organizers do in those situations was to immediately ban them 😁

[@jauken83]

1ZZ-FE inline 4.... no shit!

[@dumntuftv8853]

F1RST! had to.