Lenovo Legion 7i vs Asus Zephyrus G16 - Battle of the Best Gaming Laptops

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thanks for watching everyone! :) Link to buy Asus Zephyrus G16 from Best Buy: howl.link/c5nirt9o9oc4a Link to buy Lenovo Legion 7i from Best Buy: howl.link/b8xn2w1cy65cv Link to buy the 2024 ROG Zephyrus G16 from Asus: tidd.ly/3B2MdDX Link to buy the 2024 Lenovo Legion 7i from Lenovo: lenovo.vzew.net/zxNe4O

[@supersaiyan9854]

Hey please answer my question:- can we charge "asus rog zephyrus g16" via type-c port And if yes, then at how much watt

[@JoshCravesTech]

@ yes, 100W

[@mikeoes1]

@@supersaiyan9854 you can, max 100watts, but it wont boost FPS like connecting the main included charger will. In fact all games I tested ran the same as if they were just on battery (RDR2, cyberpunk and SOTR. So it just helps keep battery from draining as quick but not more (if any) performance boost.

[@supersaiyan9854]

@@mikeoes1 i am not into games. I know that charger thing that you are telling me. but thing for what i am attracted is colour, brand and processor😅 for me asus zenbook s16 is the best option but there is no white colour available in my country

[@derekhatake]

The G16 has a 240hz OLED with gsync. The end.

[@harshpatil9825]

Fr it’s so damn good I can’t stop admiring mine

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

The G16 with RTX 4090 overheated and throttled my games to 3 FPS, and the audio stopped working randomly until a reboot, so I sent it back and got a refund. The Legion actually works properly. The end.

[@The101damnations]

G16 has no upgradable ram slots. Anyone who buys the 16 gig version is setting themselves up to get severely bottlenecked later. Games like Star Citizen already crash on 16 gigs of ram. That alone makes me prefer the 7i, especially when you can get it for cheaper.

[@mcslender2965]

@@little_fluffy_clouds something is wrong with the audio driver of Intel Zephyrus g16s. But to counter your point, the Legion 7i is stuck with 4070 or below. The end.

[@derekhatake]

@@The101damnations One word: OLED!

[@rkymtnchi503]

Seeing the graphics scores made me fall in love with my 2023 G14 4090 all over again

[@AphasiacRaccoon]

Oh brother, this guy hates Legion laptops

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@AphasiacRaccoon 🤣

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

@@AphasiacRaccoon Legion are excellent gaming laptops. G16 looks nice but the cooling system cannot cope unless you stick to modest TDP models such as RTX 4060/4070. Asus also has too many QC problems- the audio on my G16 would stop working randomly until a reboot and no amount of PC resets or driver updates could fix it, so I had to send it back for a refund. Never had a single problem with my multiple Lenovo laptops over the years, each worked perfectly. Currently have a ThinkPad P1 for work and Razer Blade 16 for gaming, both with 4090 GPUs, and both are awesome

[@rajkumar_gr]

​@@little_fluffy_cloudstrue I agree, asus has a QC problem, my asus rog died after 2.7 years of use, now I'm replacing motherboard with my own money, asus did not honor the warranty even though my laptop was under warranty.

[@Mohammad-hj3pm]

That's why you don't have to take his comparison seriously! I have a Legion Pro 5, and I'm really satisfied to shift from ROG to Legion.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@Mohammad-hj3pm he’s joking cause of what I said in the beginning 😂

[@karikaru]

As a creator, the legion 7i is a perfect compromise. Got the i9/4060/3.2k display sku for $1250 certified refurbished. Going to slap 64gb of ram and a 4tb 990 pro in this bad boy. To get 32gb of ram in the g16 is way too expensive.

[@teddykim23]

Price of 4060 g16 is the same as 4070/4080 Lenovo here in Thailand when ordered from official website. This is sad. No discount in Asus products.

[@Ben663.]

I just bought one yesterday from best buy at 1999 and shipped it to thailand

[@irzamaulana812]

The Screen really makes the Price Difference. Unless it's the same Price 4060 = 4080 , 4070 not really that worth it because the 8 gigs of ram, like why it's the same As 4060. Better get the 4080

[@davitdavid7165]

The impression i got is that they are different beasts: the legion is your average "take our gamong laptop and make it slimmer"while the g16 is "take a 14 inch and expand it".

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@davitdavid7165 that’s a good point of view!

[@arnaldovargas9822]

the Legion is a full powered gaming laptop turned professional, the G16 is a slim professional laptop but its not full powered and has a better screen. I went with the legion as when i game i want full TDP on my laptops

[@petegaming683]

@@arnaldovargas9822do u recommend the legion 5i pro over asus rog strix

[@petegaming683]

@@arnaldovargas9822how is the overall performance for gaming?

[@deathgun9897]

Nice video. In depth review, so much details, tests. Good job

[@Khloudd]

I usually don't comment on review videos, but I think I have to this time. This literally the best way of reviewing laptops side by side. Honestly, I watched the full video even thought I am not buying any of them as they cost a fortune in my country xD. Your review is detailed and helpful. I liked the that you showed the screens side by side, I care so much about display in laptops. I can't believe I just found you channel!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Thank you so much for the comment! Glad you found the channel :)

[@xSil3nt27]

Legion 7i owner here, I really wish lenovo went with 8845hs/185h instead of intel hx. Imo the legion 7i in white is the best looking laptop bar none, but the g16 is just a better laptop in nearly every way. Only reason I went with lenvoo is cus their support/warranty here is incredibly good. I hope lenovo does something to compete with the g16 next year, because right now, its has no competition

[@zuezsz]

7i pro 2024 just released a 4080 gpu version performance is definitely better on the 7i and more reliable, from what I’m hearing in a lot of reviews for the g16 is a lot of issues

[@cornedenecker1636]

Soo, i just bought the lenovo. I want the best performance in gaming, since its a gaming laptop. So yeah. Happy

[@KhoaNguyen-i3p]

man. I could tell that you took crazy amount of time to make video like this. good job. Thank you

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@KhoaNguyen-i3p thank you!!

[@clwoni1414]

Very much liked the in depth review! Also the edit is so well done. I love the b - rolls and the inseted pics and gifs. Very well done

[@davidtunstall6454]

OLED screens win hands down vs any other technology. You don't notice how bad backlit screens are until you place one next to an OLED. The infinite contrast with perfect blacks is unbeatable. It's why TV stores place the LG TVs on a separate shelf so the comparison is not as obvious. If anyone needs more proof then notice how around 80% of gaming laptop manufacturers at CES this year swapped over to OLED displays, they are that good.

[@mcslender2965]

Really wish Legion 7i would use a more efficient CPU and maybe better GPU options next year. I think the HX processor in that chassis is a bad decision

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@mcslender2965 1000% agree

[@boltez6507]

100% agreed Ultra 100 series or ryzen 8000 or even the 300 AI series would have been much much better.

[@HelpingTerra]

Damn. Keep making the best reviews videos ever one after the other. Very impressive. I bought the G16 185H 4090 when launched and couldn't be happier with it, but I keep watching the reviews because they're just so good.

[@ashenjoseph4114]

Hey, I got the same model, how’s your gaming performance like?

[@broncofun5636]

next year the G14 and G16 will have the AMD CPUs and the 50 Series Nvidia cards - can't wait!

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@broncofun5636 definitely excited for what they bring in 2025!

[@ritiksingh6479]

Any idea when they'll release those?

[@slargo83]

​@@ritiksingh6479probably some time in March or April

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@slargo83 from some leaks I’ve seen floating around it looks like 5080/5090 laptops will release first, so if they’re quick to it then maybe as early as January/February, then probably spring time for everything else

[@broncofun5636]

@ CES is Tue, Jan 7, 2025 - Fri, Jan 10, 2025. They’ll announce them there. Will ship anytime after - hopefully by March.

[@user-zg2hg4cu5b]

I also hate numpads, and yet its becomming more and more difficult to find a laptop without them.

[@MotoMarshall]

Nice comparison man! I really like how comprehensive your reviews are. I purchased an open box G16 4070 (intel) for $2000 CAD ($1450 USD) from Best Buy and It is an absolute steal at that price. Such a nice laptop, would have liked the Ryzen chip, but for a $1200 CAD premium over this one I didn't think it was worth it. Every review mentions the screen wabble, but I think it must have been fixed on newer units because mine is pretty solid.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@MotoMarshall yeah you got a good deal, that’s awesome! And I completely agree with you on the screen wobble, it’s not bad at all!

[@orucreiss]

i love your reviews josh and keep watching them in my g16 amd ^^

[@JoselitoBurrito]

Great video and perfect timing since Jarod just did his Laptop Tier list and these were the 2 best at S tier. One editing suggestion: keep the same laptop on the same side of the screen throughout the video if possible. Thanks again for the video ❤

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@JoselitoBurrito thank you!

[@zentecson7415]

Um actually, it was the G14 that was S tier and not the G16 (it was A tier).

[@tayshq]

Awesome comparison, I'm bummed that the 2025 G16 models with the 5080 and 5090 won't have the AMD CPU... 64GBs of RAM with an AMD CPU is the dream

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@tayshq yeah, hopefully they do a mid-year refresh version with it or something!

[@ItsMeProday83]

Love to see such complete comparisons...well done man. Also there is no weird reason for not having 4080 (and 4090) on AMD Zephyrus; they have embargo, this year only Intel can go with higher than 4070 models. Also to add a big advantage for me on legion 7i, screen can go full 180 degrees and fingerprint for logging in. And in the end, I think that lenovo yoga pro 9i is better than these two in every aspect.

[@ctrl_x1770]

I'd argue that's a pretty weird and anti-consumer move.

[@mcslender2965]

I'm sure the AMD no 4080 and above reason is because this gen AMD only gives 4 lane of PCIE for graphics unlike last gen. The same issues was also the reason Ryzen 4000 series was stuck with RTX 2060 and below and why last gen Zephyrus g14 has 4080 and above since 7000 and 8040 series both have 8 lanes of PCIE lanes for GPU

[@ItsMeProday83]

@@mcslender2965 I can remind you that at start of this year AMD was actual with 8xxx CPUs, but you can't find any model with 8xxx and 4080 etc, so ;)

[@mcslender2965]

​@@ItsMeProday83the new G14 was also much slimmer and Asus told us that not many ppl were buying the higher config of the g14 hence the shift in design and config

[@sikees]

I've bought the legion 7i a couple months ago and had this exact same debate. I prioritize the ram over all the extra features the G16 has. I always have multiple applications running doing different tasks, so the ram always is close to maxing out even at 32 gigs. Also, right now the Lenovo legion is $1850 or $1700 on BestBuy while the g16 with 16 gigs is $1600 on best buy. The g16 with 32 gigs is $2200 on ASUS. That makes the legion a decent amount cheaper than the g16 with the same ram capacity. The screen of the g16 does look great but I personally don't really care for oled. The 3k screen is more than enough for me coming from a 1080p 60 HZ monitor. Battery life doesn't matter to me since I don't really bring my laptop out other than twice a week. And the places where I bring it has outlets so it doesn't matter. The legions battery does suck though. The speakers are not bad on this laptop but could be better. I use headphones so I don't really care. The g16 does have a lot more benefits compared to the Lenovo legion 7i, but I'd rather gets the legion for the price and for the ram. I know I'm missing out on a lot of features, but I have been enjoying the laptop and had not had any issues whatsoever. Great video though.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@sikees this was a very respectable comment, thank you! I think your use case and preferences make the Legion the better choice for you for sure. The only thing that could change are the sale prices as Best Buy has been changing them like every week lately

[@Plaer1]

Luckily asus hears our concerns and is amping up to 64 gigs

[@sikees]

@ 64 gigs seems kinda overkill

[@guillenavarre]

Thanks for sharing your experience! question, by any chance do you use it for content creation? or more gaming? I'll be taking a 3d modeling and animation.

[@kaishajacobye]

Amazing video. I really want to get the Zephryus G16, but the only flaw I have is the lid design, which is wanting me to get the Blade 16 because of its simplistic design, but it’s of course out of stock with the OLED panel and It’s reallly hard deciding between the two. I could just pick up the G16 right now, but I feel like the blade 16 could come into stock any day now. Very very competitive this year with slim gaming laptops.

[@davitdavid7165]

I think you can turn off the lid. I will be honest, the g16 makes the blade look like a joke.

[@kaishajacobye]

@@davitdavid7165 I know about the lights, but that lid design with the slash is throwing me off. I really like both machines, but the blade 16 just looks nicer to me, especially in mercury.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@kaishajacobye I just heard that it is very expensive while being worse at pretty much everything. The only upside of the blade is removable ram, but 32 is good enough for most. You can cover the slash with stickers or something if you don't like it

[@kaishajacobye]

@ i think theyre pretty much equal in some aspects, with asus having better software but louder fans while razer has worse software and quieter fans. i wouldnt mind getting one over the other, but i wanna wait it out a bit more to see if the blade 16 gets in stock as i prefer the simplistic design over the asus.

[@mcslender2965]

​@@kaishajacobyethese are 2 different class of machine so it depends on what you value the most. Personally I dislike the giant snake logo and would rather deal with the slash lights

[@Afronaut64]

I wish the G16 had an ethernet port, it would have been perfect I just having to move around with dongles. Nice review as well Josh

[@nicolasbondancia]

Maaaaan i meed the g16 with the 4080 to go on sale for black friday here in Europe!!! AMAZING review, been waiting for this one a long time

[@TheGintama86]

The 5000 series is coming out next year, do u really want one rn?

[@nicolasbondancia]

@TheGintama86 mmm idk my computer broke and I kinda need one hahah but I see your points those 5000 series will come around Q2/Q3 tho

[@JakeBlack999]

I think both laptops are good and I narrowed my choices down to these two. I was going to go for the Legion but when I looked at both side by side in the store - the superior build quality and the OLED with gsync (stunning night and day difference) and the AMD processor made my decision easy to go for the G16. I also don’t like num pad keyboards. The speakers also sound night and day difference - I do like to play without headphones sometimes or watch movies without headphones. The G16 was only $200 more so I decided it was worth it. I don’t care about soldered RAM 32GB will be great for gaming for a long time and likely will want to get a new laptop for other reasons before 32GB is a gaming problem. If you need this for really intense content creation then you have a different use case and should be maxing out GPU and RAM. But for the primarily gamer use case more than 32 GB is wasted headroom and will be for some time IMO. But that’s just me and my preferences.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@JakeBlack999 agreed!

[@lotoluafonua4153]

Thanks for your video. I just bought the Legion!

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@lotoluafonua4153 congrats! It’s a dope laptop

[@donovankean]

Love this video! I'm seriously considering the G16 right now. Do you think it would be worth it to spend almost $600 more for the 32gb ram and AMD AI 9 version? I'm really tempted by the intel core ultra version with 16gb of ram, especially the open box for around $1350. I do video editing and photoshop, but it's hard to say if 16GB is enough ram

[@The101damnations]

16 gigs is already not quite enough for gaming in 2024. For video editing at 4k, you're going to have an even tougher time. Even if you get the 32 gig version, for video editing, chances are you will still run into ram limitations way before the CPU/GPU start to limit you. That's why upgradable ram should probably be a priority for you.

[@mcslender2965]

If you need the GPU power the Intel +4080 is within 100/200 dollars from the AMD+4070 version especially on sale. Also comes with 32gb of RAM

[@donovankean]

Thanks! I will say, I currently have a desktop with 32gb of RAM and I've never got a bottleneck, so I'm already confident in the 32gb model.

[@JakeBlack999]

Best buy has the 4070 AMD G16 with 32 GB and 2TB ssd for $2299. That’s a decent price for the build quality of a MacBook Pro and the OLED Gsync with pretty good specs. If money is an issue and your video/photo work is casual 16GB can be fine for you. If it’s a lot more intense and you are doing it under time constraints - I think you know 16GB won’t be ideal. 16GB is also a fading spec for gaming nowadays a lot more than it used to be. Think about spending a bit more if you can. I was about to order the 32 GB Legion for $200 less because I think it’s a nice gaming laptop. but then changed it to the G16. Like the reviewer said the G16 is for buyers who value the build and the OLED and still have a good gaming spec. If you don’t mind plastic and don’t care about the blatantly obvious superior OLED gsync you won’t care. It’s a night and day difference side by side and both are very close in performance in general. Both makers have a solid reputation so I was fine going with either one I don’t feel any stake in a brand war between them. I looked at both in the store - and watched many reviews. The G16 just seems way nicer and I prefer the AMD processor. I don’t care about upgradable RAM. 32GB is going to be fine for many years for gaming. You will want a new laptop for other reasons before you would find the 32 GB to be a bottleneck. And should be good for content creation. Also the AMD processor is superior for content creation. But…If you need massive RAM for intense content creation that’s a different use case and priority over gaming. If you just do casual photo/video editing you should be fine with 16GB.

[@Jolst]

again, thank you for the ableton test!

[@Thegooob95]

YOUR CHANNEL IS THE SHIT. ITS AWESOME

[@moritlh]

The reason I prefer the Zephyrus is that it is a more well rounded product. The legion feels like it was made purely for gaming on a desk

[@mayank2564]

i have been inching to buy a asus g16 for soo long but i kept looking for other options now with this video completely watched i am sure what i am getting and which chip is going to be inside it although the 32gb fixed ram is a lil bummer but i think it should be fine for the next 5 years

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@mayank2564 definitely! Thanks for watching!

[@exynos2300]

I know that a lot of people out there that want to believe the 7i is a slim 7i replacement and a zephyrus competitor, but it really isn't. It doesn't retract from that fact that the 7i is also a stellar machine, but you have to accept that legion just ain't it when it comes to portability options.

[@arfmf]

25:35 Josh are you sure this tests are correct? Yeah the legion has a more power hungry CPU for sure but it's capping 240FPS while the AMD G16 and what's even stranger the 4090 G16 FPS are much lower. something's off there.

[@sin_fc3822]

Thats what i was thinking, i watched a few of these videos and some of the numbers feel different

[@JoshCravesTech]

You might be right, the settings may not have perfectly lined up. I’ll go into my footage and double check but it could’ve been something like DLSS performance vs quality or something. Either way, all were set to low settings at low resolutions in order to push the CPU as much as possible! So the idea was to make the CPU work as hard as possible and see how the laptop balanced that load.

[@al151]

Yeah can’t wait for the 5090 mobile powered laptops. They should perform similar to a current 4080 desktop levels, which is great.

[@EULA]

hi josh ty for helping me on reddit, love your videos :3

[@thompsen1000]

Nice Review! I am in the decision making between the G14 and the G16. Biggest focus is on silent mode gaming. I am wondering if the G14 is really that much ahead over the G16 in the silent mode? Especially by the more efficient HX 370 it should be the other way around, or do I miss here something?

[@JoshCravesTech]

It’s just the factory tuning keeps the G14 quieter in silent mode, but at less performance than the G16. So you could manually turn the G16 fans down for an even quieter silent mode with more performance if you desire

[@edj9013]

I have both the g16 and 7i right now and although I do like some of the design choices lenovo made like having the power and hdmi ports in the rear, side by side the g16 looks smaller than the 7i and you can definitely tell in weight. I do find the 7i runs much cooler than the g16 but the lenovo fan curve is way more aggressive so it is a bit louder than the g16 with ghelper. I cant comment on game wise because my g16 has the 4080 and the 7i the 4070 but the lenovo does not run games as well as the g16 in 1440p. The 7i screen is not as good but it is a really great panel. If you are familiar with the lenovo legion go just think of that in 16 inches. Side by side with the g16 and its oled isnt really a fair comparison but if you are docking and playing on a monitor it wouldn't matter that much anyway. For me its the g16 but there are always really decent sales on 7i with the 4070 and 4060 so to me either way its a big win over everything else in this class

[@JoshCravesTech]

Agreed, both are still awesome laptops in their own right

[@lutfejaradat9815]

Sorry but is the heat big problem in the G16 and how much should be normal?

[@ej1025]

Legion 7i 4070 variant is on sale once in awhile for $1499 at Best Buy. And discount codes bring it even lower if you order through Lenovo's website. The G16 Zephyrus (2024) was my first choice. But the price and lack of upgradable ram were what swayed me. I would've liked the Zephyrus AMD version though. Those speakers, display and battery life. Ultimately it came down to budget. I'm a big ROG fan as well. I just wish ASUS was more aggressive on price.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@ej1025 the 4070 model was just on sale! It will be on sale again likely in a week or so. It’s usually every 2 weeks it goes on sale and has been as low as $1399 for the 4070 model. The AMD 4070 model however definitely needs some better sales. But yeah at the current prices if you don’t want to wait, the Legion is a solid deal.

[@ej1025]

@JoshCravesTech Oh yes, I forgot about that deal. 16GB of ram just isn't enough for me and it's soldered. I guess I'm just really picky. The 4070 32GB AMD model is always around 2k it seems.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@ yeah I get that! 16GB soldered is a turnoff. And they really need to drop the AMD price more. It’s only gone for like $200 off. Needs to go on sale for $400-$500 off to be a really good deal.

[@Rem0n89]

Will love the buy the G16 AMD version but we only got 2 models here, a 4060/32GB IPS for €1899,- or the 4070/16GB for €2199,- tough decision to make, I want the OLED but with 32GB. The G14 4070/32GB is €1999 at the moment but a older cpu and smaller size screen. Really frustrating what to choose at the moment.

[@saschawolf5808]

The Asus G16 configurations are wired. In Germany we only get the G16 with AMD on the Asus Store with OLED. The other reseller have only the glossy IPS option which is also great.

[@CCC-q9f]

Definitely lol. It would be much better if there are 4060+32gb G14 or 4070+32gb G16 for $100 more

[@aleksandrivanov4345]

I've checked G16 at the local BestBuy and having hard time understanding how people enjoy this trackpad. I've tried to type on it, my palm touched the trackpad, cursor moved selected half of the text and it ended up overwritten with a new input. This situation is so ridiculous that Asus added a button to turn off the trackpad.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@aleksandrivanov4345 you can change trackpad sensitivity in windows settings and pretty much eliminate that issue although I’ve found the palm rejection to be very good

[@adonespitogonaif]

This hasn't been mentioned in any youtube review and I haven't experienced this in my G14 2024, in fact the touchpad accuracy is close to my macbook air m2.

[@Cerbyo]

Performance/graphs aside, how do you rank the quality of life/usage "as a laptop" between the flow x16 (is 4070 model okay or bad for fan/temps) and G16 amd model? Which would u rather have sitting on ur lap....or running in the background....or just moving the mouse around on your desktop in? Or just near you in general psychologically? Graphs don't mean much to me, I often see them put the 2023 legion i7 slim as 'quiet'...that was not quiet and always had to be on balanced to do basic office tasks and performance to run any 3d application even games from 2003 or the fps would tank from 120 to15 every 5s and the keyboard deck would become an oven. And do you think it worth waiting for a 4080 vapor chamber version of the g16 amd if fan noise is really an issue for someone? I'm concerned about the hinge on the g16 intel 4080 still....even tho u said its fine it doens't look fine to me esp if im' using it on uneven surfaces, and many other reviewers r concerned about it too. I didn't see any real difference in the graphs u showed but u said at the end the intel 4080 was quieter enough to mention...so if its enough to mention...

[@dantist32]

The G16 sounds amazing, but my previous experience with Asus's customer service has left me traumatized. On the other hand, my brother's Legion 5i that he bought through his Lenovo business account gave him the BEST customer service I've ever heard of

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@dantist32 I’ve heard horror stories from both personally! I think the customer service industry from all brands as a whole needs to get better. Although personally I’ve had great experiences from both Dell and HP on my end

[@abaj006]

Great review. I would go with the G16 AMD version as it has the most powerful and power efficient CPU.

[@JoshCravesTech]

The AMD CPU is amazing. If it was paired with a high-tier GPU it would be endgame

[@aras_aras_aras_aras]

An amazing video! These are one of the best gaming laptops! Can you also compare ASUS Zephyrus G16 with Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i? Because it's a more portable and creator-focused version of the Legion 7i: It has better portability, being thinner and lighter with a much longer battery life. It has a better MiniLED screen and speakers as well. It can be configured up to 4070, so it can definitely be used for gaming.

[@Exotic-9780]

The Yoga isn't a dedicated gaming laptop keep in mind. But Lenovo really should bring over the Yoga's trackpad and speakers to the Legion lineup.

[@davitdavid7165]

Salemntechsperts covered that one-off button design and it apparently breaks and can't be replaced. I would avoid any laptop with that design, especially one that expensive

[@Exotic-9780]

@@davitdavid7165 Might as well avoid any consumer laptop then since they all have a chance of breaking, but yes the side power button is known to fail and the non-ideal solution is to not shut down the laptop completely which is what I do so you don't have to touch the power button

[@davitdavid7165]

@@Exotic-9780 no, there are degrees to how long a design lasts. Yes, a 200 dollar laptop will break in a year, that is to be expected. Yes, even a 400 dollar laptop will fail after years of abuse. But this? Every time you use the button you fatigue a couple small metal parts and more importantly a bit of plastic soldered to the motherboard. If the plastic fails you either solder a new power button thing to your motherboard or, more likely, get a new board. There is a seperete restart hole, but it has the exact same design. For premium multi thousand dollar products to have a problem like this is embarrasing. Lenovo could easily fix the issue with little cost while keeping the design identical. But they wont. You will have to buy a new laptop right after the warrenty expires. And maybe you buy another premium laptop that breaks in 2 years. Some people probably think that is normal, which is crazy. We need to push back against it and warn each other of such issues.

[@Exotic-9780]

@@davitdavid7165 It shouldn't be normal to have to replace your laptop every two years due to a design flaw I agree with this it is unacceptable, the reason for my first sentence with the first reply is because consumer laptops tend to run into quality control issues more often but you could consider this issue seperate from that, regardless Lenovo cannot keep getting away with cheaping out on something as important as a power button which could fail and make the entire laptop unusable

[@isaacpiegat6735]

numberpad on the legion is my deal breaker for two reasons: 1) having a numpad means no room for good top sided speakers. lenovo laptops will never have competitive audio quality because of their numpad hysteria. 2) looks dumb and creates an off center trackpad. the design will never look nor feel as sleek as designs without a numpad. if you are a numpad defender, that's your opinion. but compromising audio and design for something that can be added via 3rd party hardware for less than $20 will forever be a dumb decision in my eyes.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@isaacpiegat6735 people get real salty about this but I 1000% agree

[@megapro125]

Couldn't disagree more. I use headphones 99% of the time so I rarely ever need the speakers and if you need to present something on the laptop meeting rooms usually have speakers if the built in speakers can't get the job done. A number pad makes numeric inputs much faster and more comfortable also it gives you access to input special characters like "±" by their ASCII codes instead of having to google them or search through a special character menu. You can even use it in a lot of simulation heavy games that often have a lot of inputs. An external numpad is another unnecessary dongle to keep lugging around.

[@isaacpiegat6735]

@megapro125 valid take, but a niche case where a numpad proves to be more useful than audio. point is the general population doesn't need a numpad, and if you do there are easy solutions. can't buy better laptop speakers :)

[@megapro125]

@isaacpiegat6735 I don't think it is as niche as you think it is. I can see how to many reviewers this wouldn't even occur as they have a whole stack of laptops by nature of their job but most people probably don't have two dedicated laptops for gaming and their day to day office tool for taxes and what have you. I obviously can't speak for everyone but that's what I'd assume at least. The argument "you can just get an external numpad" applies the same to speakers / a soundbar so I guess it's good there are options for both kinds of keyboards on the market.

[@isaacpiegat6735]

@megapro125 buying external speakers is in no way comparable to an external numpad.

[@Archasro]

if you want to buy between this two, budget must be not a problem. Simply go for G16.

[@legendz408]

After my Asus died in 1 year of casual use and all the horror stories of Asus' awful customer service i decided to get the Legion 7i, im using it to play mmos so im glad i dont have to worry about burn in due to hours of having the same UI up as i game.

[@Namu4Life]

Ah yep. Same thing with me. My Asus stopped working after 1 year and just before my birthday as well. At the same time, my Legion 7i was about to be delivered. That was two months ago! Rocking my Legion 7i and I was able to get 10+ hours of battery life on battery! If u optimize it correctly, it’ll be as good as the Zephyrus G16.

[@mariamalaskari_designs]

@@Namu4Life10+ hours of battery? How?

[@petegaming683]

@@Namu4Lifefor gaming?

[@Tom64735]

If the g16 supported 175w on the 4080/4090 models out of the box it would be perfect. I tried both the g16 with modified vbios and pro 7i with 4090 and ended up keeping the legion.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@Tom64735 yeah the Legion pro also has the extra thickness and CPU so it will still win of course. The G16 was never meant to be the performance king! Full wattage will never be possible in a laptop this small

[@Smengaful]

Hi, i got a g16 intel i9 4070 with 32gb for 1900 € in italy. How is your experience about everyday gaming? P.s. Nice review Josh, greetings from Italy!

[@JoshCravesTech]

Nice! It does very well with everyday gaming, productivity, and pretty much everything you can throw at it!

[@NateBuildingBricks]

There it is. This one's been a long time coming. 😂

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@NateBuildingBricks it really has 🤣

[@davitdavid7165]

I notice that you know a lot of alt software for gaming laptops. Is there one for omen? Edit: I found omenmon but I am struggling with the installation. A tutorial would be nice

[@JoshCravesTech]

I'll have to check out omenmon! I'm testing the Omen 14 right now. It's a pretty decent laptop. Didn't know about omenmon though, as I haven't really taken a deep dive yet.

[@markpeene4757]

Got a intel 32gb 2tb g16 open box for €1449 when it was on sale encountered no problems yet

[@FxtalStray]

Insane deal damn

[@NollyDynamo]

Damnit Josh, I had just decided yesterday on the g14 over the AMD 370 G 16 and now you pull me right back in. I’ve been into Best Buy five times to look at all the laptops and i’m once again on the fence if I want the lighter G14 or the slightly heavier larger G16.

[@schizofennec]

well the nice thing is neither of these are heavy, the ryzen AI is going to last a lot longer in terms of years than the 8940, if you really dont need the 14" for school work etc i suggest the 16 as a daily driver. ive owned a 14" MBP and it was slightly too cramped for me, my legion slim 16" is perfect tho.

[@kmonkey517]

So I was in the same boat as you a few months back, I bought the g16 AMD version at launch, and honestly, the g16 is a freaking AMAZING laptop, but it all depends on how you use it. For me it's a desktop replacement, I sold my ITX desktop build and sidegraded over to a G16, and the desk setup is a LG 45in oled + keyboard/mouse. While this is a pretty great laptop, there's some serious limitations with the formfactor, the 4070 in the G16 does not performance as well as higher TDP models in slightly larger laptops. But the CPU is a freaking BEAST. So I thought, okay I will run this laptop for a year or two, and when I notice performance degradation in new games, I will grab an eGPU dock and use that, but this laptop only has USB4 aka Thunderbolt 3 (maybe 3.5 you could make the argument) so you're going to be bandwidth limited. Overall it's an amazing laptop, but if you use it as any sort of desktop replacement you will be disappointed. But ultimately it's about price, the G14 is going to drop down to around 1200usd with a 4070 during blackfriday (same price it was during the back to school sales at the end of the summer), is the g16 worth 2x the price?

[@abdullaplays5402]

g16 i switched from a 14 inch laptop to 16 inch the difference is unreal u wont regret it :)

[@Plaer1]

I recommend the g16, as a previous g14 owner, I’m switching once I can save up

[@MrCmcgruder]

What’s the difference between the G16 and the strix G16 ?

[@epic4418]

Guys this guy just prefers Rog Zephyrus but does not hate the legion. I prefer Rog Flow and Zephyrus over Legions. But it does not mean I hate Legions

[@JoshCravesTech]

That could easily change though for me, if they do a truly portable and balanced Legion with good battery life then I’d be all over it! Doesn’t look 2025 will do that for them, but we’ll see!

[@Cerbyo]

the 2023 version of the legion was terrible I had to return it, it wasn't a laptop it was a pricey desktop jet-engine with good keyboard (when it wasn't burning ur fingers) and bad accessories. I had to clean it even tho it was brand new right from lenovo. It was well packaged I was impressed with the packaging but the laptop had to be dusted and wiped down cause all the dust and it even had some very small visible liquid stains on the bottom by the vents....the terribly budget looking velcrove strap it came with was vomit worthy completely covered in little bits of dirt on the sticky end....it wasn't something u clean its something u throw away. Not a great look considering a decade ago the velcrove strap I got with my ideapad was 'actual velcrove' and actually clean...its sitting on the floor for a decade and still looks clean. Anyone telling u the speakers r okay or good are LYING. These were second only to the wii remote speakers in quality. Gaming on them....literally shot static out. Couldn't even listen to podcasts. And anyone telling u the legion IPS displays are good is lying. It was so depressingly bad. No setting made it better, its like the grocery store newsprint...better than newspaper but still terrible. My decade old ideapad has a WAAAaAAY nicer display and it was 1/3 the price and can game...cause these were "multimedia laptops" aka the gaming lineup of lenovo back then. Would only consider the legions if u want a desktop in laptop form aka ur going to be hooking it up to external mouse/monitor/speakers/everything....and ur getting the slim model so ur really getting worse gear for lighter carry weight....dont think for a second u can put the 2023 model on ur lap....ur going to regret that. if u want it for that purpose I would definitely recommend going i7 and 2k display, NOT the i9 and 3k display....in the hopes that improves the thermals and the screen experience but who knows it might be just as bad. If you want to have some fun try and trick the keyboard into burning your finger. They might have patched it by now but in the 2023 there was always a delay between when the keyboard deck cooling system would turn-on for the top-middle keys when they weren't in use (even when gaming if I didnt use the middle keys long enough it would turn off the fans for the middle of the deck and they would get hoooooot) and u were swapping to higher performance tasks. U could touch like the 6 or 7 key on accident and get some skin blown off when doing some 2002 era gaming on balanced mode. U could literally, wakingup from sleep, load a 2003 game up and within 4minutes of playing on balanced accidently touch the 7 key and burn ur finger....FROM FROSTY COOL SLEEP....it was 'wow'.

[@davitdavid7165]

It would be interesting to compare the 14 inch legion to the g14 as well. I am currently torn between those 2

[@JoshCravesTech]

The Legion Slim 5 14"? No Gsync, no Advanced Optimus, no thunderbolt/USB4. That alone makes it a thumbs down from me! To not at least have those features on a gaming laptop in 2024 is just 👎👎

[@davitdavid7165]

@JoshCravesTech I think more channels should have mentioned all that. Will keep in mind.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@davitdavid7165 yep, funny how the major review channels brushed over that! Lol

[@iulianjercan9787]

HUGE! Thanks for the video my man

[@CCC-q9f]

If the current 4070+185H which is on sale right now for $1600 has 32GB of ram then no one would be able to compete with Asus

[@denilsonvalenzuela5858]

Good review but I'd still take the legion 7i because the keyboard layout is just nicer, I hate how 'crunched up' the zephyrus keyboard looks. It gives it an ugly appearance honestly making the overall design very average. The legion overall just has a better appearance and will run the games I'd want well and that's enough for me, especially the games that uses the numpad for extra functionality.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@denilsonvalenzuela5858 yeah I’ve noticed a lot of people will base their purchase decision off the keyboard primarily and honestly that’s pretty valid.

[@Mona_Lisa123]

That has to be the best speaker test I've ever seen/heard 😂

[@JakeBlack999]

One more comment I will add. While the speakers on the G16 are really good, way better than other windows laptops, they are still just a tad below the quality of a current M series MacBook Pro. I have one and the G16 is close but not quite as good in my opinion. I still give that crown to the MacBook.

[@JoshCravesTech]

Yeah, I respect that. I like the ability to EQ them in the Dolby software though, that can help a good bit. They’re saying the 2025 model is going to be 50% louder, so I’m curious how that will play out!

[@christianperez7784]

@JoshCravesTech I really enjoyed this comparison between the Asus G16 and Lenovo Legion 7 2024! Both laptops have impressive specs, but I'm leaning towards the Asus G16 for its superior portability and much better screen with OLED 240Hz and G-Sync support. The keyboard and overall build quality also seem to be a step ahead, along with its impressive sound and performance. Great review, thanks for the detailed analysis!

[@ViralVideos-UK]

Are these the best 2 laptops available then??

[@PCs454]

Why are there some videos that have legion 7i with copilot key and some without? 🤔😭 How do i guarantee my model DOES NOT have that nonsense? Thanks anyone 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@tabkg5802]

7:35 finishes for displays are really divisive. On one hand glossy is objectively better at colors and saturation, but matte displays are better in the sun. I wish gorilla glass became more widespread across devices cause that has best of both worlds 8:52 wait does g16 use rgb oled by any chances? Didn't notice the white pixel in layout (it might be turned off tho)

[@CallmeBigfat]

g16 i think has 2 variants one just white and one single color rgb

[@mariamalaskari_designs]

Thanks for the review. I really wanted the g16 🥲 But g16 is much expensive and the oled screen isn’t guaranteed since I use adobe softwares for hours everyday, I think it will get burn out. I can’t trust the new oled technologies for now. I purchased the legion 7i since I found it for $730 cad less, I love it but I can feel the warm even in light use. I got 3.2k because I really needed the %100 dci-p3 and can guarantee upgradability and no burn out screen for at least 5 years. Still wish it was at least mini led… although I compared it to my ipad mini led and found the colors are much vibrant on legion, idk 😂

[@Hakneset]

Help me! In my country everything is pricey, The legion 7i glacier white is 2403$ here Intel® Core™ i9-14900HX, 24C (8P + 16E) / 32T, P-core 2.2 / 5.8GHz, E-core 1.6 / 4.1GHz, 36MB NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 8GB GDDR6, Boost Clock 2175MHz, TGP 115W 32GB, 2x 16GB SO-DIMM DDR5-5600 1TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe® 4.0x4 NVMe I’m afraid of the HX chip Getting overheating, do you recommend anything else? I wish we had g16 in a good price but this is what we have -2,731$ 2.5K (2560x1600) 16:10 240Hz 16.0" Intel® Core™ i9-13900H 14 Core / 20 Threads NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 8GB GDDR6 16GB LPDDR5X 7467 Mhz SO-DIMM 1TB PCIe® 4.0 NVMe™ M.2 SSD

[@katsuchansu1951]

Fn + R to switch between refresh rates for the Legion.

[@dakotaconcepcion5398]

4070 amd g16 with 2 tb memory and 32gb ram is on sale for 2000 The legion 7i 4070 32gb ram 1tb ssd is on sale for 1500 And then the g14 4070 is on sale for 1650 32gb ram 1tb ssd My little brother wants a new bad portable gaming laptop which should I recommend their budget is on the 2000 mark

[@johnnyturshman0628]

I have the legion 7i and i loooove it btw you can change screen from 60-240 with fn r

[@J.Wick.]

These have been really the only 2 brands to pick from for atleast the past 5yrs or so. Legion, or ROG. Razer makes nice stuff as well, but it's not better (enough) to warrant the price tag IMO. Alienware has a decent model every now and again, but they always seem to forget something, i.e. Great Specs, Bad Display, etc. It's always been Legion for me, but the Asus Zephyrus, and Flow series especially are suuuuper nice as well. I've wanted a Flow for a few years now, will likely be my next machine.

[@chiliboy99]

Ngl, if legion 7i had better port placement, woulda went with it but not regretting my g14 with ryzen 8845hs 4070 Edit: legion 7i is cheaper and even goes on sale frequently with coupons

[@TrusteftTech]

I watched the full video. Took extensive notes, made a good length post. Posted it. Comment nowhere to be seen. Thanks KZbin /s

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@TrusteftTech lmao, KZbin’s comment filtering is the worst

[@TrusteftTech]

@@JoshCravesTech Yeah, you are too kind with that word. I will post one thing from all that I wrote earlier. If you could in the future make sure that in comparison of products, each one remains on the left/right side of the screen/video, no matter what part of it you show, or charts, or game footage, etc. Thanks.

[@TrusteftTech]

@@JoshCravesTech BTW, it wasn't an order. I kept it short and to the point to avoid having it erased by yt.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@TrusteftTech I gotcha, I will definitely keep that in mind! Thank you for suggesting it, wasn't really something that ever came to mind

[@TrusteftTech]

@@JoshCravesTech Thank you. I know that most KZbinrs do this. You end up with a video where the two products and their info keep swapping position left and right and make it harder to follow. Also annoying. Granted it's probably just how my brain works and no one else has this issue, but I thought to share it. Have a nice day.

[@TheEclectic]

H370 is the one... except for its GPU being capped to 4070. If I could put a 4080 or 4090 on it - would be absolutely perfect

[@TheEclectic]

If the Legion 7i Pro had OLED, it would be a no-brainer for me.

[@supersaiyan9854]

Hey please answer my question:- can we charge "asus rog zephyrus g16" via type-c port And if yes, then at how much watt

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@supersaiyan9854 yes, 100W

[@dalehuhtala9285]

I've had a G16 4070 for about a month and I've found it get dangerously hot at the top of the keyboard near the hinge. Like burn-worthy. I can't measure how hot it is but I have never seen a laptop ever get this hot before. As many reviewers have said, "you don't have to touch it there" but at one point, I couldn't even hold the power button down when it was frozen because it was too hot. I had to find a rag to put over it to hold it down to do a hard shutdown. That is really, really hot. I wonder what happens over the long term with all that heat. At one point, I closed the lid and put it to sleep but it woke up on its own at some point and was super hot because the components were on but the fan didn't come on. I thought it was toast (literally) at that point. I used the cloth to hold the power button down and waited a while and managed to get it back on again. But wow. Make sure you use hibernate, not sleep! I hope this lasts long term.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@dalehuhtala9285 yeah that’s how most gaming laptops are in that area! Unless they have an intake right there. It’s actually a good sign that your laptop is moving the heat effectively where it needs to go. And agreed on hibernate, always best to use that over sleep unless Windows decides to finally fix it!

[@JT11111]

Watching this on my G16 as someone who for the longest time thought Legion 7i was better (I have/had both 2024 models of these laptops) and I can tell you right now, with all the recent updates, G16 is clear, eventhough the Legion is portable too and has upgradable RAM, just buy the 4080/90 version like I have or the AMD version (if the price is even with the Legion) so you get 32GB of ram and you’ll be good to go for years to come, the G16 feels alot better hardware wise, which in return gives the Macbook effect and makes you use it more, the Legion 7i still felt like a stationary computer, where the G16 feels like a real notebook

[@DenGladeSpiller]

Agree completey. I have had 2022 G14 and now 2024 Asus Tuf A14, as well a few legion laptops, including Legion Pro and 5 Pro. Asus is generally better in all areas but upgradability. Also the fan behavour and fan noise is extremely calm compared to Legion, which most have a higher whine pitch to them. I dont even mind playing without headphones on this 14inch laptop. Truly amazing

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@JT11111 agreed! Definitely helps when you’ve had both, the differences are a lot more clear!

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

G16 with 4090 was useless, overheated and choked on my games to

[@JT11111]

@ i have the 4080, I do think the 4090 is overkill personally

[@mcslender2965]

@@little_fluffy_clouds could be shitty LM application, thats pretty much by chance ngl. I wish I could get into the 7i Pro but the weight+battery life is a no go for me

[@joethebummer23]

Asus must be stalking me because I just saw the g14/g16 at best buy and man are they nice machines. I purchased the Legion Slim 7 gen 8 (amd 7840hs and 4060). About a 2lb heavier than the g14 and 1lb heavier than the g16. Plus it's a bit thicker, but it does everything that I need. At first I was excited for the 2024 Legion 7, but after release I feel like they butchered my boy by putting in a 14th gen HX chip instead of an AMD or Lunar lake. Instead of nerfing the GPU (which is normally fair), they decided to nerf the CPU. So you get mediocre CPU and with a good GPU. Then poopoo battery life. There's no point in going for the Legion *slim* 7 gen 9 when you can just get better specs for a true desktop replacement.

[@dynamiszmx]

I got a new legion 7 i9 with 4070, 2.5k screen for only 1250 usd, no complains. The g16 is more modern but the combination of 16gb soldered ram plus 4070 is annoying. And its more expensive to me. The legion 7 can achieve 15% to 20% of performance increase, by undervolting both gpu and cpu. But it requires some knowledge.😅

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@dynamiszmx yeah at that price you won!

[@michaozga7825]

There’s some Reddit comments that the Liquid Metal might come out of its place and kill mobo. It’s also something that I’m afraid of.

[@呆阿-z8z]

Legion is not the LEVEL to compare with G16, like orange v.s apple. Legion is outdated design for whole system. G16 is the king of trend leading

[@kaitheninja5627]

You missed something really serious in your video regarding color option and price!! Legion 7i white version is on sale frequently not like the G16 which I could not even see it under 2200$!! (I don't like black/metal color of Intel version) I think Asus Zephyrus G16 is a winner here for someone looking for a more complete "laptop", whereas Lenovo Legion 7i is more suited for ones looking for a more powerful, portable workstation that looks nice. Personaly, I've purchased the Legion 7i a month ago for 1700$ , It's still on international shipping though, it's at max configuration and 240Hz screen. I've picked it after conducting research on the internet, to be honest I really like the G16 but I want a white machine and the price difference is insane, more than 500$ for less RAM. I hope I would not regret my pick, I'm dying from waiting here..

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@kaitheninja5627 are you in the U.S.? That’s not the case at all here

[@kaitheninja5627]

@@JoshCravesTech I'm not in the US but I buy from US websites and ship internationally, I could not find any white G16 less than 2200$ with 4070! yes, there're black ones with intel CPU right now at 1600$, nothing regarding white version at all, please mention a store history record if exists, that would help me

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@kaitheninja5627 have you checked Best Buy?

[@Menma2000]

Have some comparison on G16 vs M3 16' plz🫸🫷

[@saba6182]

Josh has a vendetta against Legion 7i lol

[@mcslender2965]

Not his fault Lenovo fumbled where it matters for portable laptops

[@saba6182]

@mcslender2965 Dude, their weight difference is 0.4 with Legion 7i being 2.2 kg and G16 at 1.8 kg. wouldn't say they fumbled.

[@Goals_First]

​His' not talking about weight bud..a ligher laptop gives OLED 2x the battery Better ports Close peak performance Better sound and smaller charger brick The other gives what? Matte screen 😂 FAT body for almost the same weight? Why? Even with more space.. still have relatively same cooling and fan noise management. Has a MUCH bigger wattage yet struggles​ have a much better performance overall What else...worse speakers and a boulder 🪨 as a charger😂@@saba6182

[@schassismx3115]

G16 HX AI model is looking really good. Waiting on a 50-series model and will probably pull the trigger on one. I do appreciate Best Buy finally offering a 4060 SKU with 32 GB of RAM for only $100 more.

[@GlynTaylor]

Ahhh I just realized the white G16 is AMD and the silver is Intel. I just brought the Intel but now might return just for the white as it looks incredible 😍😂

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@GlynTaylor there is a white Intel model as well! I have the white Intel 4090 actually

[@GlynTaylor]

@JoshCravesTech omg awesome. I can't find anything in the UK yet. Hopefully there are more in next year's lineup

[@RyanRodri-o3v]

Would any of these laptops be good for streaming call of duty while I’m playing on my ps5 on a monitor ?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@RyanRodri-o3v I think either one would work fine for that

[@onionpeeler2023]

1399 at BestBuy? I am not seeing it... 1599 is the one from your link...

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@onionpeeler2023 $1399 is the lowest price it has been. It will likely hit that price again if you’re willing to wait.

[@yeetergriffin7679]

Why not compare to the i7 pro? It's better

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@yeetergriffin7679 they’re too different. Thick, heavy, battery hungry and cheaper materials with more power vs thin, light, battery-friendly, and more premium features with less power. Just kinda opposite ends of the spectrum

[@juniorpenn8713]

There is no competition vs that battery life and that oled display 😅

[@duncan359]

My legion 7i 4070 burns my hand on right side of kb. Its too uncomfortable to type in chat when gaming.

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@duncan359 yeah that hot spot isn’t really talked about much which I find weird. It was a little uncomfortable for me too and I’m pretty used to warm keyboards, lol

[@duncan359]

@@JoshCravesTech did you send your back?

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@duncan359 yeah :(

[@duncan359]

@@JoshCravesTech so what did you end up with? and are you happier with it?

[@huvarda]

I really dislike the "compressed" arrow keys since a lot of the games i play use arrow keys which is why i personally wouldnt go for the asus even though im not a numpad guy

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@huvarda that’s a good point for people to consider

[@anthonym2142]

My only thing is, I want a legion but the asus oled screen is catching my attention. I don’t wanna deal with backlight bleed but also don’t wanna deal with asus customer service reps

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@anthonym2142 yeah… now there are horror stories from Lenovo too, their time in the “bad press” spotlight is coming. I think every laptop company needs to step up their support game aside from a few like HP and Dell.

[@jamest9638]

The day the Legion series gaming laptops exclude the numpad........ that would be great 😅

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@jamest9638 1000% I will buy one immediately

[@michaozga7825]

Hope they do tandem oled on ces or miniled because I don’t want oled. If no I guess I’ll settle with w MacBook plus mini pc to stream games to Mac display.