Fender Tone Master PRO vs Neural DSP Quad Cortex: Which is the king of the amp modelers?

[@LaCajaDeSnake]

Thank you, you are the best, the most impartial and the one with the best analysis on all of KZbin ❤

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments that really make me happy!!!!

[@StratsRUs]

I hope this means Fender have invested in strong future updates of Firmware etc and really immerse themselves fully into the modeller world. I think a Helix 2.0 with Profiling etc would sway me as I think Line 6 have been very good to us regarding the richness of updates. Great playing and dedication as always Leo, well done !

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the playing!!! Yes, there is a lot of space for improvements with FW upgrades...like new amps, new cabs, etc. I do agree...Line 6 is doing a great job in upgrading theyr unit via FW...I was impressed by the FW 3.5 Thank you!

[@erikjohnson2976]

This is, hands down, the finest review of these two great processors. And, it is great to see someone actually purchasing both for the review, instead of relying on the company to send a free sample for "review" (in other words, compensation in exchange for a good review). Your independence brings so much more gravity to your work and findings. Great stuff!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!!! I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!

[@neocampus9043]

Leo, your videos are the benchmark for modeler comparisons, every minute worth watching!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

WOW, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really appreciated!

[@benjoshd3386]

So much effort and hard work you put for this comparison .Mad respect to you

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and recognise the effort!!!

[@400_billion_suns]

Leo, your comparisons are so good. Using real amps that you live mic’d and then shot your own IRs from makes all the difference. Also, using short clips with the real amp in between makes it much easier to hear any differences. Great job and thanks for giving us these helpful reviews!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!! Thank you for all these amazing compliments!!!

[@mikealpinist3818]

Damn. When you said I'm one and you are almost 30 thousand it hit me. You should have had at least 3 times the subscribers you have now. I'm sure you will get there as your work is really top quality as it could possibly be. I also wonder when all the other units will catch up with what Roland has achieve in terms of latency.. it's the number one factor that makes me feel I'm not missing out with all the other units.. But both units sound great. As everything does now days with enough tweaking. take care Leo!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for you nice words!!!! Thank you also for sharing you opinion...and yes, so far BOSS latency is the best, together with NUX.

[@CarloLibertini]

Leo, thank you very much for all your hard work! I truly appreciate it. Fantastic comparison! Extremely helpful… great playing as always!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much; I'm really happy that you find the video useful and of course that you like the playing!!!

[@BeachJazzMusic]

The Tone Master is a lot bigger than I realized. I have a Helix, Axe-Fx III and a Quad Cortex. I think they all sound different and love them all for what they do. I don't see at this point I would need to add the Tone Master to my collection. With the addition of the desktop editor for the Quad Cortex and also a firmware update to it since yesterday it's what most people wanted and Neural has delivered even though it took a lot longer than their customers had hope but so far it has worked flawlessly.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, yes, I have also realised how big the TMP is...just after comparing it to the QC...I expected the TMP to be smaller, actually. Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!

[@IsaacLausell]

I think these are the best reviews on KZbin. You bring both musicianship and technical knowledge of the gear.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Isaac, thank you soooo much for such an amazing compliment!!!!

[@IsaacLausell]

@@LeoGibsonGtr it is well deserved my friend

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

♥️ ♥️🙏

[@jimamsden]

Agree 100% with your 2 cents. QC desktop editor is out and it's fantastic. QC tones and ease if use make it a winner. However, all these units sound really good and you can't go wrong with any modeler or real amp for great tone today.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for sharing your findings!!

[@greymatter800]

Thank you, Leo, for this thorough in-depth comparison - you've put a lot of work in it! Very useful! I prefer the sound of Fender Tone Master Pro though, as it is closer to the real amp (to my ears and taste), as the real amps in your test are also somewhat darker and mellower than both amp modellers. I also prefer the size and tougher tank-built-look of Fender, which might work better for the stage conditions - but I have to try out both units myself in person in order to have a well-based opinion - this is just my impression from the video test.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, I'm happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion and your findings!!!

[@Gabeflow]

Both units are amazing to me! I love the work that each of these companies have put into their amp modeling products.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for sharing!!!

[@catalyzed8457]

Was seriously waiting for you to drop one of them off your knees at the end there! 😳😄

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀😀😀

[@hellsing1983]

My choise would be based first of all based on tone. QC seems a bit better, after features like profiling. QC wins again. Last of all, I would like a smaller size because I would like to use it with to external pedal I have. Which means QC again. The things that the Tonemaster does better I don't care that much about. And the Tonemaster doesn't have enough high gain models. Well yet...

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your findings and you choice!

[@daveinDc]

I was hoping what I call "The Pope of Tone" to do a video like this. Rock on your holiness Leo! 😊

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀😀😀👍...God Bless You!

[@Scott__C]

I think you bring up a great point about the ToneMaster being young. A really interesting project would be to compare ToneMaster with QC/Helix/etc. with their initial release firmware. Personally, profiling isn't a feature I care that much about since that's why I buy those units is for others to do that work, lol. But, I also don't think every unit needs that, because at that point, they're all becoming too much the same. They all sound great now, so I don't think you can really go wrong with anything these days.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and your findings!

[@64north20west]

Actually, your opinion is pretty important. I think Fender has a great product there, but it is 2 years behind Quad Cortex and it is anyone's guess when they will catch or surpass the competition. I don't personally need profiling, but that may be a big deal for many. It still seems to me that Axe FX 3 is the top modeler out there, but it costs a bit more. Thank you for another great review, Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome, I'm really happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion! For sure we need more FW iterations...at least to increase the amps available....let's cross out fingers.... Thank you!

[@georgebarry8640]

Leo, your reviews just getting better and better! I used my ears..and I agree, the Neural just sounds better. Also, profiling is a powerful "future-proof" feature. I think Fender gets some of its efforts right...but in the end, the ears have to be satisfied and the user has to find it easy to CREATE. We are artists, after all. So, the Fender falls just a little short. But both will make alot of musicians happy. Thank You.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!! Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!!!

[@TheRealChetManley]

In a blind test no one could tell the difference in the intro. They all sound good 😊 Awesome comparison, lol @ QC app coming soon, they have been saying that for 2 years. I agree with your findings the QC is the better device right now.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes, the QC app took a lot of time...but at least finally it's here....

[@expresidentfortune]

I clicked 'like' before even watching the vid, bravo Leo!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀...Grazie 1000!!!!

[@merlinoner]

Thanks for your honest review. It's rare now a days in the internet.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and thank you so much for such great compliment!!!

[@vlado19651]

Very good work, as always. You have some of the best tests you can find on youtube!👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!!

[@jcoulter43]

Excellent video and demo song as always Leo. The Tone Master is a good looking unit, but it's missing a lot of key features the QC already has. Like you said, the Fender is in its infancy, so we shall see what support Fender offers. Like another statement a commentor made, if Line 6 made a Helix 2.0 and incorporated the new features the QC/Tone Master have, I'd probably buy that first due to their history of updates and support, but that's just my personal opinion. Can't wait to see how your opinion may change over time while using the Tone Master (or if you sell it or stop using it for any reason). Keep up the good work. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much: I'm super happy that you like the song! Yes, we have to hope in regular firmware upgrades...for instance in order to add amps, cabs, etc....something Fractal, Line 6, BOSS have done a lot in the past...and are actually continuing doing...This Fender platform for sure needs time to mature and evolve. Thank you!

[@Scott__C]

I'm of the opinion that everybody doesn't need to copy everybody else. If they do, why have more than one or two companies making these things?

[@jcoulter43]

@@Scott__C I agree with you about innovation. Profiling is a key feature of the QC and Kemper and not having that ability in the Fender product that costs the same is a con for purchase. If Fender's modelling sounds as good or better than profiles, it may be a moot point eventually.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I do agree!

[@Tasjudoka]

Ur intro songs are incredible. I remember being blown away by things like Flying in a Blue Dream when I was growing up. Your intros are at that level IMO

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Wow, considering that Joe is one of my hero...this is really a super compliment!!! I can not tell you thank you enough and for sure this is a great encouragement for making better music!!!! Thank you so much!

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

The best reviewer on the KZbin. Cheers Leo

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!

[@lyleanderson5407]

Great review! I am surprised no company has offered a power section for powering external pedals as that seem like a must have. The last unit that wowed me was the TC Electronics G System because is was far ahead of it's time. I think AI is going to be playing a larger role as that is the next evolution in processors.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you like the review! That's a good point...outlets for external pedals would be nice and useful! Yes, AI profiling is already a great option...NAM docet. Thank you!

[@steveliberty]

For reference, I use an HX Stomp with a ToneX. I think the QC sounded better, looks better, and would fit a pedalboard more easily. The Fender has a lot going for it, including the user interface, but one big concern I have is firmware / app updates. Fender abandoned the Mustang platform from what I understand. Are they fully committed to support the Tone Master platform ith frequent updates like Line does on the Stomp/Helix/etc.? What are their plans for enhancing the current model through firmware updates? Will they bring a lot more amps, and improve the quality of the ones already there? The QC has an effectively unlimited set of amps to choose from (because captures can be added, commercial, or your own). I think Fender made a mistake by pricing the TMP at this level. Their first modeler/multifx unit should have been more like $800. Only time will tell if they mature this product fully.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much for sharing your findings ... interesting points...

[@gomes1466]

The best “gear comparison “ chanel ever!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for such an amazing compliment!!!!

[@Studiomanberlin]

Thanks for the great review. I made a very similar comparison and despite I really wanted to like the Fender device (as it is very convenient to use), the sound quality of other than Fender amps is lacking vs the Quad Cortex. When it comes to Fender amps, you can get the same results with the QC or FM3 using the same IR. Also the overdrive section in the Fender device was not really convincing as being more "digital" sounding when used with the amp sims. I will send my Fender device back :-(

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!! I'm also happy that you have got the same results I have obtained...very interesting...thank you for sharing!

[@JTB--]

Nice one Leo. Excellent comparison video as always!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

[@SirPraiseSun]

best comparisons on yt

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much!!!

[@DogdaySunrise]

As always I was looking forward to your video on this unit. Very informative, great work!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!

[@metallion0738]

Both sound good, but the Fender Tone Master sounds a little warmer ant to my ears better than the Quad Cortex. Great Review as usual Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing and I'm really happy that you like the video!!

[@Gearheadworkhops]

Grazie Leo another great review. I will wait until next year for the Fender Tone Master Pro pawn shop edition. Less money and more amps, cabs and fx's. I can't believe they let this one out of the gate like this.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Grazie a te, sono contento che ti piaccia il video!!! Posso chiederti dove hai sentito della pawn shop edition? Grazie ancora!!

[@kikiphallin]

Not a fan of the predefined paths on the fender tone master, honestly that's a deal breaker for me, especially at that price, I love how creative I can get even in my "limited" hx stomp (and believe me, I have). On a side note, I love your comparison videos man, so much detail, and also, I love how you use the same IR for everything, effectively comparing the amps/profiles in completely neutral ground. Keep this going!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really super happy that you appreciate the video! I do agree with you....I also prefer total freedom in creation patches, not been limited by predefined paths....

[@algorithm007ify]

I preferred the Fender Tonemaster pro sounds....interestingly. I felt that it was definitely closer to the real Fender amp. You are right about the QC being closer for the Plexi, however.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Ok, thank you for sharing!

[@bryannicholson7111]

Agreed - especially as someone who personally prefers cleaner sounds.. not a huge fan of heavy distortion personally. I do admittedly like the option for playing some 80s/90s songs I grew up with.. but generally, for playing around on my own, I like clean with the ability to push to the edge of break up… that might tip me towards TMP. I need to dig into some more clean comparison vids. I’d like to buy one of these soon.

[@rpadvideo]

another fantastic video, Leo! i really appreciate your work -- it has more thought than other KZbin guitar videos and you're so good at explaining the practical applications of technical features. i'm looking forward to seeing how the TMP evolves with firmware updates. one aspect of the TMP that i'm interested to learn more about is how using the loops effects latency; hopefully you get to cover that in a future video.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such amazing compliments!!!! Yes, I'm gonna do a latency dedicated video...I'm also curious to check out how latency sum up using all those external loops.... Thank you!

[@DowserGratt]

Hello Leo, Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking to buy the Quad Cortex a lot, and since Fender put out the Tone Master Pro, I hesitated. Since your video is well explained and well documented, I'm gonna go with the Quad Cortex. Suits my needs more than the Fender. Once again, thank you Leo !

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!

[@BrianVallotton]

Hi Leo! I sold my Quad Cortex I had for a year. I bought the TMP. I do not have any amps or pedals that I needed to model so the capturing was not important to me. I like the UI of the TMP. My needs are way simpler than many people. I do not use many effects or different presets. Frankly my little pedalboard with Keeley Compressor Plus, Keeley AT Super Mod, UA Dream 65, and Keeley Halo is what I have been using at church and it is my sound. So why even have an all in one modeling unit? For the fun of it! I like being able to use the TMP and it's built in Bluetooth to play along with songs at home. I also like how it has the Scribble Strips so I always know what I have going on. I always consider your videos to be the best on KZbin. You are very valuable to me and many others. Thank you for this top notch work you are doing for the entire music community. God bless you and all you love.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi Brian, thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!!! I love to hear the experience of our community!!! I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and to be of some help!!!

[@artysanmobile]

Re the Tonemaster, 44.1kHz is the sample rate for A/D conversion, which I believe is perfectly acceptable. That does not necessarily affect the distorted tones’ out of band accuracy. Distortion tones are routinely 2x or 4x or even higher oversampled. As new as the Tonemaster is, I feel safe assuming oversampling is used widely.

[@Slavetskiy]

Nice review, Leo! Yes, QC have more flexibility. But, new tone pro is "too green "😊. So, let see after. Btw, after installation of Cortex Control Beta my PC has a Blue Dead screen, so be careful!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!! Yes, I really hope that Fender will keep coming FW upgrades....thank you also for sharing the problems of the QC app....

[@mpmmarcelo]

Thank you! You are doing a great job showing the new equipment.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much!!!

[@johnvingren1383]

Obrigado pelo vídeo, bastante informativo e intuitivo, futuramente comprarei a minha Quad Cortex. Deus continue abençoando sua vida

[@robertgladstein]

That was a great in depth look at both units..i decided to go with the tone master pro because it was $200 cheaper and its newer but thank you for that analysis...

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!! Thank you also for sharing your final decision!

[@mijaatin]

Another quality review/comparison from you Leo! Thanks!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

[@GeorgeBacan]

Perfect review, Leo! I also agree with what you said about visual beauty and esthetics. As you said, as we grow older we want to see that artistic visual beauty which gets us inspired to play. 🙂👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much!!! Yes, I totally agree....😀 music...art...beauty....things that go together....😀

[@moroboshidan7960]

My opinion is that your demo song was fantastic.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!! When you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

[@ManuelManjarrez.]

thank you for that amazing quality content Leo

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

[@enricofugazzi5206]

Ciao Leo, the possibility to create profiles is relevant for people who have the amps and cabs. The only amp I could profile is my Blackstar fly 3 or the Roland AC Mobile. Most of us are the so called "Bedroom guitarists". We don´t own a plexi or a soldano or a deluxe reverb, not we do have the space to have one of those beasts at home. I live in a flat in a condo where if I raise the volume of the TV I have my neighbour banging on the door. Not to mention that 1 of those amps cost like the Quad Cortex or the Tone Master. I wonder if you would run a survey how many subscribers of your channel are like me. A friend of mine who runs a music shop told me that 80% of his customers are "bedroom guitarists". They play at home for themself and they don´t have a band or perform live.

[@schumannzohan]

Man, I completely agree with that. I've been playing the guitar for 14 years. At one point, I owned a Fender Twin Reverb, but I eventually sold it. Living in NY, it's challenging to keep giant amps and cabs, and it's not just about the money - it's also about the limited space we have here. That's why I've always relied on modelers. So, I can't really say how a real amp sounds or feels. I listen to the music and then tweak the sound to get it as close to the original song as possible. For those of us who gig frequently and cover songs a lot, having a unit that sounds great and is easy to use on stage is crucial.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, Enrico, thank you for sharing! Let me add, that even if you don't have amps to profile, you can take advantage of the profiling feature of a machine. In fact, many professionals make profiles of their amps, and you can find very good profiles, even of boutique amps, at a small price...I think many "barroom guitarist" take advantage of this feature...for instance available in the ToneX or for the Kemper....If you take a look at NAM, you can notice that it has now a very big library of very good sounding profiles...and many of them are totally free. This is thanks to the profiling option. Thank you...interesting discussion.

[@bryannicholson7111]

@@LeoGibsonGtrI was about to say that… I think the “external” application of profiling, is even more valuable than just capturing your own tone - especially for bedroom guitarists. It gives you access to amps you might only dream about playing for either nothing, or a small price

[@RaffaelloGianfranco]

Grazie Leo per le tue eccellenti recensioni, sempre utilissime! Inoltre vorrei complimentarmi con Te non solo per la tua evidente bravura “Chitarristica” ma soprattutto per la composizione dei tuoi brani e, cosa che trovo veramente magnifica, l’uso della voce ad accompagnare varie linee melodiche insieme alla Chitarra. Complimenti Leo 🙂

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Wow, grazie davvero per questi bellissimi compimenti! Sono veramente felice che ti piacciano le mie composizioni...per me è super importante! Sono anche contento che hai notati le voci e che ti piacciano! Grazie veramente per aver trovato il tempo di scrivermi!

[@kookos276]

I prefer the smaller size of the QC. It’s light weight and fits in my gig bag. I also like that the QC has two XLR inputs. I play acoustic and I use an acoustic preamp (Fire-Eye Red-Eye) with the QC. The preamp can be powered up by using phantom power from the QC. My vocal microphone is attached to the other XLR input on the QC. So for this use case (acoustic + vocal) I really appreciate having two XLR inputs. With electric guitar I’ve found that Amalgam captures work well for me. I.e. I like captures in the QC. I play bass as well so the bass amps are useful for me in the QC. What I miss in the QC is the desktop editor, longer IRs, USB-C and plugins. I’d like to use the QC as a simple mixer as well. With the current UI this is quite difficult. If I understood correctly Fender has addressed this? The scribble strips seem really nice! I can’t wait to see how the Tone Master Pro will evolve in the future. The hardware seems promising and I would assume Fender has good resources to develop the software.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing your experience! Good points about the double XLR inputs...I do agree with you Thanks!

[@alienlovesecrets9379]

Thanks Leo. I have a similar opinion. But who knows if Fender will introduce capture technology in a future update. All the IO is there, so it is only on the software side of things that has to be tweaked. To be honest I expect Fender to introduce this in a year or two and just boost the unit again as if it was a new one. Not one unit on the market can beat the Form and the UI factor, imo. Now imagine to have the capturing thing in there.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Yes, I do agree....the unit has already all it is needed to create profiles...they have just to develop the software....and they can even take NAM...which is great and open source....it would be amazing to have NAM in this unit.... Thank you!

[@dylanhendley5003]

QC profile captures feature goes further than even just capturing your own amps, being able to download other people's captures for amps you don't own is fantastic. Add to that Neural recently adding support for their archetype plugins running from the QC, and it just shot to top spot for me, even over the AXE FX. The number of bands and content creators I've seen using the QC live is also pretty staggering, It's either QC or AXE FX3 on stage and at this point I think I see an equal number of both in people's racks

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing your experience and your opinions!

[@QuickSticks8771]

You guys are so fortunate to have the choice these units at around the price. In Australia the QC is a thousand dollars more expensive and not always available

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing and I'm sorry for your situation with these devices. I hope things will improve in future. Thank you!

[@QuickSticks8771]

@@LeoGibsonGtr thank you for the kind words Leo but no need to be sorry . We still have access to all these incredible devices they just cost more like everything else we get The bi product of living on an island at the bottom of the world 🙏🏻

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

I see, thank you for sharing!

[@ChakraOver9k]

Finally 🔥🔥

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀👍...this video took me an infinite amount of time....😀 Thank you for your patience!

[@martinopinto6323]

That more sound section was very helpful! I think the Tonemaster has the same models of the 300 euros fender digital amp, very dark and flat. If you mess up the plexi model, then it's red flag

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!!!

[@adairo16]

Really great video, maybe it will be interesting to take in count the release date and how many updates has adquired each product. To this point, Fender product is kind of a baby using dipers vs Quad Cortex as a teenager

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes, the TMP is in its infancy...I do agree...

[@kuntoaji4674]

Thanks for the info! For the latency, BOSS is still The KING

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome! Yes,

[@Liam_Doherty_UK]

I prefer my GT1000 👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀👍

[@TheCyberMantis]

The GX-100 is really good and affordable!

[@user-sl2mq5uo2w]

Thanks Leo!! Great comparation, the cuad cortex for me sounds a lot better

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, you are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video! Thank you also for sharing your findings!

[@rinkydinky-ob9pe]

Thank you Leo , you helped make my decision easier and I’ve gone with the neural machine

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!!!

[@rinkydinky-ob9pe]

which powered speaker would you recommend with it ?@@LeoGibsonGtr

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I use my studio monitor or I go directly into the mixer for live use, therefore I don't have experience in that topic. I've a heard very positive feedback about the Friedman FRFR speakers...If I had to choose, I would probably select those ones. Thank you!

[@GRAFHC]

Excellent video... to my ears the QC still remains the current "tone master", but the Fender unit is good and looks like fun to play through.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you both for the compliment and for sharing your opinion!!!

[@SirPraiseSun]

agreed the amps seem more accurate and dynamic sounding also 27 amp models for a 1700 dollar pedal is a rip off hope they add 20 more at least

[@bryannicholson7111]

@@SirPraiseSundidn’t the QC initially launch with 20 some?

[@phyloo14revers40]

Great job AND great playing, like always !... and that wonderful accent...

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video... and the accent!!! 😀

[@itamar_vidal]

Another great video Leo. Congrats!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

[@mksxntwr]

In all TMP demos that I've heard it sounded too thin and IRs quality reminds me Line6 POD HD500 which is definitely not a compliment. I own few Neural DSP plugins and I'm quite happy with their sound. It's also one of the reasons that I want to sell my Kemper and buy QC instead. Also you've mentioned very good points about UI and design, I'm totally agree!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much for sharing your findings!

[@petevan]

Fender has got the UI right as far as I’m concerned, I want this pedal in front of this amp and adjust them easily, not be a technician and loose my inspiration before I start to play

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

ok, thank you for sharing!

[@foxstar409]

Thank You so much for all this videos , You are the Best..❤

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

[@ithebastardking2800]

Leo, a superb video as always! I would like to see the tonex in one of the fx loops and what your findings are on the latency. Thanks!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video! Interesting point about the ToneX in the loop...therefore adding profiling capabilities to the machine....thank you!

[@ithebastardking2800]

@@LeoGibsonGtr looking forward to a new high quality video Leo😉🤓

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you!

[@poorbrokeguitarist]

Great playing as always.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@Yannleon_video]

Best comparaison so far. I think QC sounds best. But... real amps still at 1st position for me.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Thank you also for sharing your findings!!!

[@dr.gregoryweisswassernd7251]

Excellent comparison video Leo. You do these better than anyone on KZbin. @majikband loves Leo.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really super appreciated!!!

[@ZonneryX]

Cortex received a PC app update today and now it is become much more usable as "rack device"

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Yes, I do agree....I would just add that I think that the control app it is still in beta...

[@nv8505]

AWESOME VID, amazing playing and comparison. That's funny hearing a Marshall amp sim on a FENDER modeler. 🤣

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes....it's funny...but Fender needs to improve their Marshall models...

[@filim79]

great review as always!!👍

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

[@wolvesandguitars]

Fractal. Great playing as usual!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much....when you like my playing ... I'm super happy!!

[@wolvesandguitars]

@@LeoGibsonGtr I still can’t believe the edits! It’s so real when you and your brothers all play in same room!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

😀👍

[@henrikdahlberg878]

Are you planning to re-visit this comparison now that TMP has a few updates under its belt, and perhaps you have worked with it more?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I will thing about it...these videos require a lot of work and re-doing something I have already done is not so "attractive"....but I will think about it. Thank you for your suggestion!

[@chusssMusic]

Another great video. I loved the demo song. Your effort and dedication is something else Leo. Sincere thanks to you for all what you offer.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video and the music!!! Really appreciated!!!

[@AbsoluteGuitarNerd]

At 31:31 you say that you wanted to compare more overdriven models available in both units as well as real amp. What about the EVH5150 down on the floor to your right, I've heard it's somewhat overdriven?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

The problem is that the TMP has the stealth version, and I have the normal one....so I guess that there are some differences....I will give it a try in future videos....even if I'm not 100% sure it is gonna be an "apple to apple" comparison

[@rubenmedina5050]

Great review Leo, thank you

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

[@gaddebeli]

Great video, as always! Looking forward to latency test :D With that said, I think any comparison of Tone master to any other flagship modeler is futile. Tone master is quite a dumbed down unit with no advanced options, the only thing that puts it in the "flagship" category is the price, and that is only because it has the "Fender" sticker on it. Otherwise it would be in the same price category as any other mid range Chinese modeler.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Thank you also for sharing your opinion and your findings!

[@4fun5000]

Great review dude! Thanks. So my Quad Cortex is not outdated… 😅

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Thanks to FW upgrade the QC platform is still nice ... 😀

[@jarrydwilliams237]

To my ear the tone master vs plexi vs QC, you should actually be dialing up the mids on the tone master. The QC has less dynamic range and so has lots of upper mids. The way our ears work is that we perceive the mid range as being louder than treble or bass. So we often mistake upper mid range as treble. The tone master sounds like it has less mids and more bass. Try turning up the mids and dialing back the treble and/or bass to get it closer to the real amp or QC. I hear more dynamic range in the Tone Master which will likely make it more difficult to dial in, because it is limiting less.

[@razznote7586]

Though Leo has not yet responded to you (as he almost reply to every one), anyway just to say, that you got a very interesting suggestion (EQing to have a balanced tone amongst the 3).

[@luxintenebris6614]

Best channel and all the information others don't tell. May I ask, which guitar pick you are using? Thanks

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, I'm using the stock pick up of the two Suhr models I'm playing in this video...the V60LP in my classic antique (which I love) and the Suhr SSH+ in the Modern. Thank you!

[@tolsen8212]

I'll still be going with the Valeton GP 200 because of the price to performance. For my needs it will be adequate. These units are better (and obviously do different things to the Valeton), but not enough to justify such a huge price. If I was going to spend thousands, then I would go with an Axe-FX III anyway.

[@TheCyberMantis]

Check out the Boss GX-100. It's really good.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing!

[@marvinuniputty3848]

Excellent as always, Leo! Just curious, are there any Dumble model inside the Tone Master Pro?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video! So far no Dumble model is available. Thank you!

[@metallihorsemen]

Leo, amazing work as always. Curious: which are your top 2 modelers at this moment? In terms of feel and sound? Thanks in advance!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video! Well, I prefer not to say what I'm using outside videos....as it would be a sort of black and white opinion out of the blue and without a context, that would maybe influence someone in the wrong direction... Thank you for your patience

[@MarkRuggieri-rb2iu]

Excellent video, I wish the tone master, had something for the bass guitar? I just bought the Fender? now I'm not sure? I love the screen better on the Fender. I could return it. And get a cortex? I don't have that many amps to do profiling. They both sound great and I have my line 6 to do bass tracks. The Fender is definitely better sounding than the stomp box, line 6. At the end of the day it's all about you playing. Whatever you have, you make some good. Excellent video and surprising. Thank you!!!!!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video! I would suggest you to check out the user manual...I was not able to find bass amps....maybe they will be added in the future, even we don't know Fender plans...so we can't be 100% sure it will happen. Thank you!

[@miguelower6864]

i felt the tone master mor like a FAT Tones no dark, at all couse the tone master have a lot of eq . SO quadcortex more posibilities at all.... BUT i prefer very FAT TONES of tone master pro, great reviews tks leo you are excelet

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video! Thank you also for sharing your findings!!

[@jerryhill8281]

It's been a little over a year with my QC, and that initial buy kind of love, hasn't worn off.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you for sharing your experience!!!

[@abehaddad]

Agree 💯 on your 2c comments I think the QC is still king

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much for sharing !!!

[@SoyAlberto127]

Great review and great music

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much...when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

[@DoctorMcFarlandStudios]

Love your videos.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

[@franknguitars7671]

My QC is save :-) great video, as always

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you sooo much!!!

[@franknguitars7671]

@@LeoGibsonGtr your most welcome! Thank you for the great content - musical taste and technical mastery meet with a scientific mind in your videos - quite unique!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

WOW, thank you for such amazing compliments that really make me happy and push me forward to make more and better!

[@rumy6871]

Leo, I compared them It seemed like the QC foot switches were closer together than the TMP. As such, I was not confident about using the QC with a band. I think they both sounded great. Funny enough, I preferred the TMP Plexi sound. I was testing with 60s Les Paul. The Fender nailed the Jimmy Page tones. You are right, the QC profiling is a great feature. Do you think it is possible for Fender to add it? Thank you very much for the helpful videos.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

You are welcome and I'm happy that you find the video useful! Yes, the profiling procedure could be added, as all the I / O needed is included (for instance the XLR input)...We just need Fender implements the software...they could even take NAM and put it inside the unit...

[@Civic.]

I can't say that I'm interested in the Quad Cortex but my main concern with the Tonemaster are it's limits. The pedal FX limitations are my main concern like not being able to select a delay at all after selecting certain reverb pedals. I mean cheaper units might only let you assign one of each type but at least you can always select any within a type with any from another type. The amp models missing are surprising (like no JTM...WTF) but not a concern for me as what it has already has me covered. I typically end up exclusively using only 2-3 amps in any modeller and I think having a Jubilee and a Bassman and a Vox and a Plexi and a JCM800 and a 5150 and a Dual Rec is more than enough for me. But because I would most likely just use a few amp models and want to add effects, that's why the limits are a concern and not really knowing what those limits are before I hand over so much money is a worry.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

HI, thank you so much for sharing!

[@gerinsindanight]

Thanks Leo! Always super professional videos! I have a Kemper with power amp and the cabinet, and I am really happy! Do you thing QC with power amb and a cabinet is better?

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, thank you so much for such nice words!!! If you are happy with your device, I would not change. Nonetheless, I have done a comparison video between the two units, that you may want to check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZe3mo1_m9CCkNU Thank you!

[@gerinsindanight]

@@LeoGibsonGtr you are the beast! Gracie!

[@artysanmobile]

I’m sure you noticed the very clumsy gating after staccato playing. What I find baffling is the virtually identical clumsy gating for both units. Is there a reason for this odd behavior? The gating noise was very loud for each, as in deal-breaking loud. I must be missing something.

[@ReductioAdAbsurdum]

TMP had a firmware bug at this time that made stuff sound really dark. It's much better now.

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing....the fw upgrade took really a lot of time...but it's nice that it is finally fixed....

[@SerkanBerksoy]

Hi Leo, I was waiting for your thoughts on Fender unit. I currently have Kemper Stage and Hx Stomp XL + Tonex. I use kemper for only recording because I've heard it has a lot of switch problems if you use heavily. For band practice and stage do you think Fender or Quad Cortex would be a better / easier solution than Stomp+Tonex? Should I upgrade? I heard both of them are 3+ ms latency. I like the drives on stomp and amps on Tonex. For other effects nobody compares delays or reverbs of these units...

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Hi, Stomp and ToneX are a great couple. With TMP or with the QC you are gonna have an all in one unit...therefore somehow you are simplifying. On the other hand you are gonna drop a lot of money...so I'm not completely sure it is worth to spend all those money...

[@marekgitarzysta5193]

it's all about the platform flexibility and its future - will Fender be able to keep developing it for years to come? Like Helix or Kemper have been doing for YEARS, instead of coming up with a new device every couple of years? Let's see....

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you for sharing....yes, we have to wait and see how much Fender is gonna develop this platform

[@SonicDriveStudio]

Another amazing video!

[@LeoGibsonGtr]

Thank you Jon, really super appreciated!!!!