When your ex-girl murders your new girl (and is unfazed)

[@CielaAnn]

Unfortunately, I must agree that the detective interviewing Kaitlin did a horrible job. All they did was tip her off that she is a suspect. Way to fuck that up.

[@glowindark64]

DAS raysist

[@johnstevens9803]

YUPPERS!! Lmao

[@painmt651]

Totally

[@Mama_Bear524]

She was so bad!!!!! Omg.

[@robvannoy2512]

Agreed! "Hey Kaitlin can we speak to you? We are doing an investigation of what looks like a robbery gone bad that ended up in a shooting of one of your boyfriends cycling friends. Looks like they stole an expensive bike. Can we ask you some questions that may help us track down the bike and the robber?" Why not go with something on these lines to make kaitlin think she got away with her red herring ruse? WTF are they teaching these detectives now a days?

[@Macéadrom]

LISTEN! it was not a problem for colin to bring a lawyer. THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO! do NOT think that you could explain to a police officer your side of any story without them literally twisting your words. You do NOT Matter to THEM. Don't do their job for them, and be smart always invoke your 5th and get an attorney.

[@Mr.MermanPrince]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 exactly this!! Especially if you're innocent get a lawyer!

[@jimputnam2044]

Yes they only care about arresting someone. If they can make you look guilty they will. Don't matter to them you are innocent, they got there man. 👮🔬

[@Cherokee51774]

Best advice ever. I come from a long line of police/private detectives and military investigaors (like NCIS). We were told since we were old enough to get in trouble NEVER talk to cops. NEVER let them search anything w/o a warrant. Their minds are pretty much made up. They can easily make you look guilty. Don't expect phone & body cams to help you. Cops have immunity. You don't.

[@JIBBZFN]

Yeah plenty of innocent folks have spent ages in prison by providing as much information as possible to help solve the crime never imagining they would be the main suspect.

[@Gamerjoyjoy]

Absolutely agree. I support law enforcement, but I also know that sometimes mistakes are made due to pressure, etc. In fact, having an attorney present protects not only you, but them as well as there have been plenty of false reportings and accusations against law enforcement even during the investigative/interview process.

[@dndatlas]

As a therapist I can't stand better help. its a terrible company that fucks over patients

[@theresekirkpatrick3337]

Agreed i signed up never received any service and canceled got one week refund after paying for a month. I canceled because of the research i did about the security of my personal information. Aka none and no proof the “therapist “ is anything but a life coach

[@Heybudwatsurproblem]

Tried them once. Service is a joke! It’s like getting therapy from DoorDash they don’t know shiii

[@giannipuface9441]

It's not surprising.. I always assumed if the therapists were any good, they'd have an actual place of practice and wouldn't have to use better help to get patients

[@FabiansLab]

But Leon will still keep pushing it because $$$ is more important. Therapy is almost always terrible. Been to 7 and they all sucked. But better help is literally for people sooooo introverted that they can't go to a regular therapist. It's dumb. Some e-text on a phone or computer would be even more less effective than a normal therapist. Counselors are cool, though. I like counselors

[@kclauren6052]

I knew just by their commercials (and the insane amount of advertising) that something was "off" about that company...

[@aliciahowell9617]

I’m a former Pediatric Level 1 Trauma RN. Our policy was always to give chest compressions until a Dr declares death. No matter how many GSWs and blood being ejected. The idea is to try to salvage any possible chance of oxygenating the heart, lung and brain despite the continued blood loss. If you can keep the heart pumping and get the patient to Trauma Room, rapid infusion of blood and expanders can keep the patient alive to get to the OR to address the GSWs.

[@Cherokee51774]

ABC

[@trashboat115]

Thx

[@trashboat115]

​@Cherokee51774 tf u talkin about

[@aliciahowell9617]

@@Cherokee51774 you’re right ABC airway, breathing, circulation. Most important basics in emergency medicine!

[@1WEareBUFO1]

​@@trashboat115 😅 da ABC's bruh

[@emilyk2244]

betterhelp keeps getting on trouble for not using licensed doctors. dont do it

[@TDiggz]

Yeah. Fucking scandalous company

[@Jenn-ie5vf]

Agree. Tried it with my daughter during covid and it went terribly but you tubers will still promote it to get that money. And I wanted to edit to say not Leon, I'm referring to other content creators

[@Thejbelow]

Going to a therapist can be risky in itself, using one online? That's just wild man.

[@spending2much]

​@@Jenn-ie5vfwas wondering if parents were stupid enough to do that to their kids. Thanks for confirming

[@BethLindsey1970]

My husband works on Better help part time. He's an LCSW with 20+ years experience. Try knowing what you're talking about.

[@jayluss]

That lady cop all like, “I know, it’s a little crazy! We just arrest people at random, so quirky 🤪 but help us out.”

[@sarahg2653]

Oopsies! We totes didn't mean to, like, restrict your freedom upon threat of violence for no legal reason, girly!

[@JaRP36]

DEI hire

[@Jenkyblep]

This is..... The WORST interrogator i have ever seen.

[@iamapieceofcandy]

Literally 😵‍💫

[@anasloyal]

lol I seen a worse officer who kept trying to bring up jesus to a guy who murdered his whole family over a cam girl

[@trashboat115]

​@@anasloyali think I remember that lmao

[@flacsmada]

by far

[@iamapieceofcandy]

@@anasloyal i need to see this 😭😭

[@just_passing_through]

12:50 “Finding the bike dumped in nearby scrubland left them with zero leads”. 100% wrong. Finding a $14,000 racing bike, abandoned in scrubland is a HUGE lead. Who put it there? Why take it and then dump it close to the house? Can you fingerprint it? Everything you need to solve the case is right there on that bike and finding left you with no leads? WTF are you talking about?

[@Mama_Bear524]

That was one of many weird lines.

[@KingRhoamBospheromusHyrule]

They literally said in the video that it was a red herring.

[@MK-Hogan]

If you’re ever, ever brought in for questioning by police, don’t say a word until you say the words “I want my lawyer here before I speak”. Period. Teach your kids this as well. They can end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and end up with something pinned on them.

[@YellaBellaReno]

Agreed. And I think that explains why he wasn’t quick to acknowledge that he knew who the cops were talking about. For all he knew, she was in trouble for something. I mean, it’s Texas. She could have been accused of something that is completely legal in San Francisco.

[@gothicMCRgirl]

This should be standard practice anywhere. Guys, it’s literally your American right to remain silent and not say a word until a lawyer is assigned to you. Use it. Short of identifying yourself to the cops, don’t say a word more, especially during crime investigations. Even if you did nothing wrong, anything you say CAN and WILL be utilized as evidence and the cops WILL arrest you just so they can resolve the case as fast as possible. It’s a hassle you don’t want to be involved in, so zip it, wait for a lawyer and do exactly as they say afterwards.

[@SnickC13]

Not always.

[@MK-Hogan]

@ Then you’re taking a risk. I would advise against that.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

Totally agree. My son made that mistake. He gets out in December 2029. Even though he proved he was elsewhere, the victim (and police and prosecutor) kept changing the date of the offense, until they finally found one that stuck.

[@blakegray9528]

Better help is known for hiring basically anyone that claims to be a therapist and claims to have a degree. They do no research.

[@rakkooni3221]

They also sell or have customer info compromised. Not trustworthy at all.

[@HaleThePanda]

They're also a subscription service, which is NOT how behavioral health works in terms of the billing and payment system

[@stephenpmurphy591]

What are you talking about dude? I watched several You Tube videos and an Instagram story on psychology! I'm a certified You Tube psychologist.

[@h0sti1e17]

I hate the "He couldn't look them in the eyes" thing. I always have a hard time looking people in the eye, and I often look past them or down. I have to make a concerted effort to do it, so that would the the last thing on my mind if the cops were there to talk to me, guilty or not.

[@gilla2092]

I am autistic and diagnosed PTSD, you are singing my choir here

[@wintermoon7003]

Right?! That doesn't make someone guilty or innocent. People look in all sorts of directions when they are recounting the past. It's natural. And some people, like you and me, don't feel comfortable looking into people's eyes. I will if they are talking to me, but if I'm the one talking, I hardly ever look in their eyes.

[@xylemutopia]

Same here. Its one of the things about me that I hate. I have to tell myself to have eye contact which is hard for me to do but when I force myself to have eye contact I'm always highly anxious whether or not I'm doing it too much. One of the many things that makes me wonder if I'm on the spectrum

[@zCOREz]

Me too it’s a adhd thing it takes so much attention to look someone in the eyes that “making sure your looking at them” is all your brain focuses on and you don’t even hear them lol

[@SolaufeinG]

i also look "beyond" or past them at the "distance". i feel so bad when i talk to people and they suddenly look behind them only to find out there's nothing at the wall. But i guess ... ... psychology generalized?

[@williepearl278]

Kaitlin actually did have a theft of service on her record. She had gotten Botox and told the receptionist at the clinic that she left her credit card in the car and instead of coming back and paying she just left.

[@ryanmartinez3500]

How do you know that?

[@cleanmikeandtheboys3165]

19:18 "He is barely able to look them in the eyes" *Shows clip of him staring directly into cops eyes for 5 seconds*

[@wintermoon7003]

Yeah, that dude's (not Leon) commentary is horrible! How can someone be clinging to lie when they are already dead? Like, what? This is a good advertisement to NOT watch whoever that is who posted the video!

[@4fNReal-]

Ikr!!!😂😂😂

[@unsheepled]

Some people should leave the commentary of this type video to skilled persons . Dr 🤡 sound goofy and spews nonsense

[@VantaBlackhole]

Narrator is definitely cringy overdramatizing

[@rosebflowin]

I thought the same thing lol

[@lesflynn4455]

Dude, Colin Strickland was a professional bike racer until this happened. He was racing gravel and mountain bikes I believe, the same as Moriah(Mo) Wilson, the murder victim. Gravel racing is a classification gaining popularity using road type bikes with wider rims and off road tires. After his missus was found to be the main suspect in the murder, all his sponsors dropped him like a stone. Career finished.

[@jaquinicole2936]

That's so sad

[@johnv6806]

Are you suggesting they shouldn't have dropped him?

[@trevorphillips8176]

@@johnv6806He’s not responsible for his girlfriend’s actions is he?

[@johnv6806]

@@trevorphillips8176 not directly. But if someone had sponsorship and their spouse killed someone they would be dropped too. Bad publicity.

[@trashboat115]

​@@johnv6806it's wrong and dumb bruh

[@MyHeadHz]

That second interrogation was painful. That lady needs to get her sh!t together.

[@TrueHylianKnight]

No one can convince me that detective deserves to stay a detective. That performance was absolutely shameful. Talking about "theft of service" and you don't even know what service was stolen? Wtf are we doing here?

[@MyHeadHz]

@@TrueHylianKnight She seemed way too inexperienced to be put on an interrogation that crucial to the case they were trying to build.

[@unsheepled]

DEI detective

[@TheMongral]

@@MyHeadHz Based on how she was behaving I'd be willing to bet the partner she mentioned at the start of the interview was supposed to be mentoring her and thought she'd be fine while they dealt with some prep work for the case, not realizing how nervous she was, and because of that nervousness, she kind of screwed things up because her partner wasn't there to stop her from trying to rush things.

[@couldbekalopsia4478]

She turned off her cellphone so she couldn’t be tracked; BUT BASICALLY/GENERALLY EVERYONE HAS CAMERAS. That is so nuts. Why does no one ever consider all the cameras?!

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

Police will also find it suspicious if your phone is off during certain times.

[@LayerZeroDesign]

If your friend has a $14k bike and she literally just came to stay with you specifically for a bike race that weekend and she was keeping said $14k bike right inside the door and you just found her shot to death in your bathroom I feel like you would definitely notice that the $14k is not right by the door.

[@arizonabay6231]

but the bike isn’t sitting there everyday. she just got there for the race. it would be easy to overlook i think.

[@CieraMychele]

Its probably the thing she noticed before even finding the body... she probably walked in, "hm wheres the bike? She must be out training!" Just to walk a few more feet and see the horror scene. So yea it makes sense to me she'd bring up the bike

[@minivan680]

actually feel like that's the last thing you'd notice

[@LayerZeroDesign]

@@CieraMychele 100% that was my thought exactly and personally if I was in that situation that would probably be my exact timeline. Walk in - huh that's weird her bike is gone, maybe she went for a ride - then walking into a straight horror scene. Also even if she didn't notice it when she first walked in, if she noticed it at any point between when she called 911 to when she told it to police I think it's kind of irrelevant - even though it ended up being irrelevant to the case in this instance, if your friend was just murdered and you notice a detail like that I think it's pretty obvious you would want to mention something like that to police because $14K bikes are pretty badass but I don't think they've gotten to the point that they ride themselves away from crime scenes yet.

[@LayerZeroDesign]

@@minivan680 idk maybe you're just not very observant. Can't speak for everyone but as someone who is aware and good at picking up on small changes in my surroundings the bike not being there would be something I would likely notice right away. Your friend just came to stay for a bike race, she's been keeping the bike right inside the door and every time you've walked in or out of your house for the past couple days the bike has been there and now it's not. Obviously nobody is going to jump to the conclusion that their friend is lying dead 20 feet away in the hallway but my first thoughts would be they're out riding or at worst it was stolen. After finding the body that is absolutely something I would consider valuable information to pass on to police (even if in this specific instance it wasn't relevant to the case). Either way we know the friend had nothing to do with it, and she clearly DID notice it at some point since she mentioned it to the police.

[@randomhero6365]

At least the 911 operator sounded like they cared. Most the time they sound bothered someone is calling

[@dskubberud9038]

As a former bike repair man, 14K bikes are not that uncommon. It's called a midlife crisis.

[@jvillain9946]

I hate the term midlife crisis because it just condemns men for doing things to make themselves happy. Most men go their entire lives sacrificing for everyone else (wives, families, children, etc) and soon as they're able to do something that makes themselves happy or they find enjoyment in, it gets vilified.

[@wiidlbeetle3857]

@@jvillain9946sounds like you’re having a midlife crisis

[@Cilent__]

I thought corvettes and motorcycles were midlife crisis purchases. Not bicycles.

[@JohnnyDogs1978]

My brother just got separated this year, got a new Harley Davidson yesterday. He's 40. He's always wanted one but was never able to get one, until now. I've been teasing him about having a midlife crisis, he's younger than me by 5 years but went grey around the sides a few years ago. I haven't had one hair go grey yet. His life is much better than mine, and he's a much better person than I am.

[@absolutelyridiculous6743]

You'd be surprised how many people take up running, cycling...marathons, duathalons, triathalons...all the gear required is expensive! My husband is into triathlons after getting his weight under control. He's 35 years old. There are a lot of men and women in his category and older age devisions who started their journey around midlife :). ​@@Cilent__

[@lesliegirard7190]

$14,000 makes more sense than the $400 my grandpa was murdered for. He didn't even give his killer that money. He had been asked by his sister (my great aunt, I guess....I'm not good with these family things) to ask his own nephew to return the money he had borrowed from his mom. My grandpa went to the house to talk to him. As he and my grandma left, the nephew unknowingly grabbed a gun and slipped out the back door. He then shot my grandpa in the back. He turned the gun on my grandma but it jammed. He was tackled before he killed her. Killing someone for that amount of money is insane. He got a great deal from the state. He's already out of prison and has been for several years.

[@CuidightheachODuinn]

Yes, your grandparent's sibling is your great aunt/uncle (aunt in this case). This isn't really pertinent to 99.98% of your comment, but be glad you're not Irish; we do things a bit differently. For instance, any male in your family that's younger than you and not direct (like a brother) is a "nia", or a nephew. Same goes for any woman in your family that is not of direct relation and within 20-40 years of age from you is considered your "aintin" -- even your parent's cousin. You have no idea how confusing it was to transition from being raised by Irish kinship until you're a teenager to American culture and trying to understand what the hell a third cousin is.

[@brianforrester9670]

I've seen this Dr. Insanity video and I, just like you, thought the same thing about the cop doing Kaitlyn's interrogation: she is terrible at interrogation. Not only is her tactic terrible, but she also nearly let a murderer off on a technicality by continuing to ask questions after Kaitlyn requested representation.

[@FlowerOfSloth]

I am not an avid fan of these types of videos but I have seen more than a handful and yes, this is a butchering of what I have seen other interrogators do.

[@oldmanballer5088]

In a different video a lawyer explained that if you don’t demand a lawyer, they don’t have to stop.she said I should get a lawyer. She never said I WANT a lawyer. If she had said that then they had to stop questioning. Must be emphatic when asking. Like he said demand one and then do not say anything else.

[@johnv6806]

​@@oldmanballer5088atleast twice she said "I should have an attorney" that is pretty clearly asking for one. You really shouldn't have to say more than the word "lawyer"

[@tentacletiddies]

@@johnv6806 honestly yes. People would and could say something like "you have to specifically ask for one or else it's not valid" but no, there have been countless times where I have watched interrogation footage and the suspect will say something like "do I need an attorney?" and the detective will ask them directly if they're requesting council and they will either go "yes I am" or "no I'll keep talking" and she legit just fully deflected

[@phoenixrising4012]

​@@johnv6806that's where the technical parts come in. A judge can rule she made a statement rather than a request. It's a huge Grey area.

[@Ninas3rafina]

Your anger is palpable I felt the same way about this detective. She walked out but she definitely didn't get away she almost did

[@BrettShadow]

Mad props for calling out BetterHelp

[@19kilometers]

f betterhelp man

[@theabhorrentchef7226]

Never heard of such a thing but I don’t trust the therapy industry in general. Sounds like they’re in that group Some few of them are probably good people trying to help and not reporting possible patsies to the óbrale agencies. But a lot are

[@gilla2092]

If it's anything I've learned about my time in the ward, it's that they have completely capitalized mental health.

[@Insanity_Wolf]

Yeah, to be fair to everyone that was sponsored by them. They weren't aware of the shady shit that was going on. Funnily enough Mr. PewDiePie called them out a while ago and a couple other larger creators. BUT because KZbin is so divided these days instead of being one big community. It didn't reach everyone.

[@aliciacarstensen7904]

I will never seek out therapy again as long as I stay on my psych meds and don't drink any more I'm good. Before I decided to go sober I had a therapist actually get me drunk at her place a few times before she sent me out on a dark winding road to my home. I needed a therapist for my therapist how f***** up is that?

[@psychostasis6404]

“Imagine killing someone for 14,000 dollars.” I have an uncle who is on death row for a murder for hire back in the 80s. He was married with a child on the way, and he murdered some lady's estranged husband (per her request). He only got about $13,000. I was told he was just the getaway driver until later in life, when I found his appeal, where he’s very much not just a getaway driver. He’s actually the main guy. I’ve never met him, and my family makes a bunch of excuses, but I hate him, and I’m very disgusted that a human life was worth about as much as a new car (at the time) to him. His name is Herbert Spivey Jr.

[@JamesBubbyTeaTaylor]

That name is familiar. Imma look it up. 😮

[@Nicole_Pikachu]

So so tragic and heartbreaking, rest in peace to that young woman she looked so beautiful and full of life, And prayers to her friend who had to find her like that. Omg. 💔

[@mo608]

I completely agree. I was a bit sad that Leon was making fun of that innocent girl for how she reacted after seeing her friend dead. Doing CPR and making fun of her having holes from being shot super cringy. Then making fun of the “clinging” that was hard to watch. I really like his videos but really lost respect after that. That poor girl 😢. I hope he doesn’t do that again that was super sad. I wouldn’t know how to speak or react walking in to something like that.

[@Mama_Bear524]

@@mo608isn’t that the girl who murdered Caitlin ?

[@ellieeckhardt7620]

40 years of marriage and NEVER looked in each other's phone , it's based on trust

[@shannonyaw5782]

They must have read the book; “Murder for Dummies how to get caught in five minutes!” RIP sweet angel you didn’t deserve this.

[@noahsanchez8910]

I often now think about Leon describing how people on bikes often dress when I’m pedaling with my clip in shoes. You got me! The outfits are a bit goofy, but functional and a great low impact workout/commute option. Your descriptions of the outfits are hilarious 😂

[@Steelals]

Glad you took it well

[@AOAvina]

Man poor friend, you can see the ptsd engrained in her eyes during that initial questioning

[@terrancepemberton4648]

exactly! That's just terrible. It would be hard and devastating for anyone to find a friend in such condition. Sad...

[@Brandon-dy8us]

Thats called shock brother not ptsd. The ptsd comes after.

[@MistaFahrenheit]

​​@@Brandon-dy8us

[@Manhandle730]

@@Shmityorshenseriously!! “Ohh look at me!! Everyone feels bad for me even though I ruined your floor and made your house stink!! Oh woe is meeeee!!!!” Then we …..I mean the so called “murderer”(such a harsh name) has to face life in prison and stuff!! How is that even fair!?

[@lurksmcgee]

@@Shmityorshen what are you on about? he's talking about Caitlin Cash not Kaitlin Armstrong (the murderer) - the cops talk to Cash right outside of the apartment and you can see how shaken she is, she's the one that performed CPR...not the murderer, we don't even see Kaitlin's eyes in her interview lmao

[@wednesdayjill9241]

As humans we used to watch each other fight lions and bears to the death as entertainment. I don’t know if we’re desensitized or if humans have just always been like this but i think what’s important is we don’t forget the real people involved in these stories and body cams and keep our empathy intact at least a little bit.

[@Mashy8722]

Jeeeeez that female detective is absolutely dreadful!!! lol I’m PRAYING she’s a rookie! Cause if she’s not, yikes!!! She doesn’t sound confident what so ever in ANYTHING she’s saying. She’s stuttering and stammering and nothing she’s saying is making sense or coming together. She’s just…rambling. Putting her on a murder case was a BAD idea. She coulda REALLY messed that up fr

[@shaun374]

THAT’S THE POINT!! She’s purposely being a ditz. Notice how she didn’t immediately lawyer up? And she stayed in the room for a while? And they slowly moved the conversation over to Colin? The narrator is waaaaaay off when he says they messed up by making her know she could leave whenever she wanted. She could always leave whenever she wanted. She’s not under arrest. They have to say that in ANY interrogation. So that’s not a mistake. It’s relaying information in a non-threatening way. The fact you think the cop was actually that incompetent is a sign you fell for the act completely. You’d be a very easy interrogation.

[@Mashy8722]

@ I’m sorry, I’m just gonna have to disagree. I genuinely don’t think she’s good at what she’s doing

[@boanoah6362]

@@shaun374 The cop WAS incompetent, didn't even have a fake pretend warrant reason and then spilled the beans entirely that it was about Colin, immediately tipping her off that they were onto her murder which then lead to her FLEEING the country!

[@kodemeister8915]

If and when she gets out of prison, approximately 45 yrs, she will be old and likely on probation for the rest of her life. I don't understand the motive behind her murder except jealousy? Crazy...

[@trevnti]

It's a lot of murders due to jealousy/crimes of passion/lovers quarrels. Emotions are a hell of a drug. Jealousy can lead to feelings of betrayal, insecurity, abandonment, possessiveness... Jealousy resides in the prefrontal cortex, amygdala, gyrus... these are emotional/social regulation centers of the brain... say similar to psychopathy and sociopathy...

[@BrooklynHall-o1z]

I agree Leon..... that detective did not handle that properly.....

[@Skelet0nCatBlake]

Criminal Justice degree holder here: Nah this interrogator is dogshit. She sounds like a child trying to convince her mom to let her see a rated R movie. It’s unprofessional in a way that doesn’t benefit this situation.

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

This lady interrogator is one of the worst I’ve ever seen. It’s like she wanted the woman to get away with it

[@jvillain9946]

Well yeah. Its a woman. Do you really think they'll hold her accountable.

[@Hannah-gc4cy]

@@jvillain9946 did someone say mommy issues?? Someone get this dude on BetterHelp🤣

[@glowindark64]

DAS raysist

[@lisarodriguez6966]

Did you miss the end of the video where it says she was sentenced to 90 years? Your blanket statement is dumb​.@@jvillain9946

[@FrankieCo-lm3pw]

@@jvillain9946 You're clearly too incompetent to understand anything, but yes, a woman would hold her accountable just like if it were a man. That's just your ignorance speaking. That detective didn't do a good job, but it has nothing to do with her being a woman, dimwit. Unfortunately, you're just too brainless and imbecilic to understand that. How incredibly sad for you. Go back to the bridge you live under and don't come back out until you gain more than one braincell, you pathetic gremlin.

[@randywagner6961]

She said she wanted a lawyer. All this testimony could be thrown out at trial.

[@Peekaboo6969]

She asked if she should ask for a lawyer.way big difference there

[@randywagner6961]

@sillygoose4263 no. Its not. Trust me, fuck this dumb bitch, but a good attorney gets this interview suppressed.

[@tirkentube]

The reason it took Colin a second to remember who she was, is because the Officer asks him "Do you know Anna, Mo? Anna Mo? People called her Mo. Last name, Wilson? Anna Wilson?" But Colin AND the girl she lived with called her Moriah. Pronounced like Mariah Carey.

[@grambag7956]

I was at a concert with mush chocolate and this dude had Birkenstocks on with bare white feet something told me he was a cop, he asked if I had those chocolates but I always carried a bag of regular candy for this specific situation. 2 minutes later I saw somebody else selling L make a purchase with him and they got pulled away by two plain clothes officers. Your grandfather was right never trust a man in Birkenstocks.

[@Elicapalot63rd]

Hey man you probably won’t see this but I haven’t watched you in yearssss bro! Feels so surreal seeing your noti pop up. Hope you, your wife and the kids are doing okay🖤🙏🏾

[@LeonLush]

appreciate you man

[@KORUPTable]

Who the hell say's noti????

[@keeferChiefer]

@@KORUPTableMe and everybody else under the age of 30. Why do you care?

[@aalires]

On god fr fr no cap skibidi

[@MrsWellner]

​@@aalires😂

[@andrewevenson2657]

So if someone isn't breathing and their heart isn't beating, the right thing to do is CPR. You are effectively breathing for them and pumping their heart when you do CPR. However, in the event of a traumatic injury, the first priority is to control major bleeding because pumping their blood doesn't do anything if it's all gone. Had she tried to control the bleeding when she found her, she would have discovered that the blood was from a fatal gunshot wound, and would not have needed to perform CPR. Obviously that situation is extremely stressful, and I commend her for having the courage and collectiveness to perform CPR, even if it was not useful to the victim. You don't know how you'll react in that kind of situation until you are in it, and even if you know what to do normally, you could forget it all when you need it.

[@deborahr170]

The detective has told the suspect everything they have on her, thanks for the info. Continuing to ask questions after suspect had stated she wants to leave, that's how interviews are thrown out by judge. Surprised other detective didnt join after watching this disaster.

[@elainascott7496]

That's why Caitlan bought a plane ticket and got plastic surgery. I hope that Detective got her ass fired.

[@oldmanballer5088]

Not true I watched a lawyer go over the interrogation and he said she never ask for a lawyer. She suggested she might need one but never came right out and asked for one. You must DEMAND a lawyer. She said I should get a lawyer. He said she should’ve said I WANT a lawyer. Since she did say I want one they could continue to ask her questions. The lawyer said you demand a lawyer then stop talking after the demand. He also said if the cops say you’re free to leave when ever you want. You get up and walk out without speaking to them. Then call a lawyer because they will come back and interview or interrogate again.

[@GeeNoniGee]

What if you don't have any resources to obtain a lawyer, though? I think they only provide you a free lawyer if you're actually in custody?​@@oldmanballer5088

[@titaniumshield7870]

It's not a tactic... It's a fool F'ing the whole thing up

[@TW_SlingStone]

That bike cost 3x more than my car, oof

[@1ofCornPopsBigBadB_____ez]

When u walk in and find your friend bleeding and unconscious, usually u aren't going to know exactly what happened, whether they were shot, stabbed, or beaten. But u should first call 911 as u check for pulse and then try to compress the wounds and then start cpr anyways because theres a chance that they went into shock or had a heart attack after being attacked.

[@heatherva]

He has a girlfriend but spent the entire day with a different girl? Thats why he didnt want to admit he knew who she was, I bet he lied to his gf about who he was with.

[@oldmanballer5088]

The cop called her Anna then mo. It confused him when he heard Anna first.

[@leytonnc1047]

What ever happened to girls and guys being friends and you essentially blaming him for her death is wild you need to check yourself do better

[@heatherva]

@@oldmanballer5088 Then why did he still look confused long after he said Mo??

[@heatherva]

@@leytonnc1047 Sorry but its not normal to spend an entire day with an old fling when youre dating someone else.

[@leytonnc1047]

@heatherva it is when you haven't left each other on bad terms, it's called being mature

[@UnkemptKosher]

That detective would be great for dealing with children not a case like this wtf

[@MATILDASHAX3834]

Not even sure if I wanna trust her with that now though 🤣 kids ask a lot of questions too

[@dj2117dog]

Content gets crazier and crazier every week 😂 💕love the work brother

[@coryingman]

Love triangles are never worth the trouble.

[@gorey4more837]

Fighting over a partner in general isn't worth the trouble. Eliminating an "opponent" this way is about control and power. If you've got to monitor your partner's movements and communications then you need serious help. "He's just not that into you." (The "you" I refer to is the universal "you.")

[@BadNews501]

21:26 "Never trust a man that wears Birkenstocks." 😂😂😂 I was not prepared for that, but YEP!

[@HarleysDucks]

*”Never trust a man that wears Birkenstocks”* honestly so real 😭🎯🎯🎯

[@Jdrunnin]

The scariest part is how many cameras are watching 24/7

[@giannipuface9441]

I think the scariest part is someone is willing to murder another person

[@Manhandle730]

It’s been that way for years and years. Pretty screwed up I agree. Just wait to see what they do with drones.

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

In pa we have trails all over every stretch of woods standing , yet the trails are basically empty and these slackers just hold up traffic

[@karenaware6569]

Cpr is for a person that’s not breathing to continue to pump their heart to give them a fighting chance when paramedics come.

[@mo608]

Yeah, kinda lost respect for him making fun of that like seriously.

[@chemicaldeath9866]

@@mo608 he wasn't making fun of anything 😂 It wasn't even his question for 1, it was a comment he read, and for 2, it was a serious question And I had the exact same question, so I paused the video to search and see what the consensus was, and most paramedics said - "Yes, doing CPR on a person with a chest wound WILL pump blood to the wound and cause them to bleed out faster, BUT bleeding out faster with a beating heart is better than having no blood circulation with a stopped heart" So not only was it not a joke, IT WAS RIGHT! Doing CPR on an open chest wound will in fact "juice them like an orange" so you should only start CPR if you are 100% sure their heart is stopping and they are losing their pulse. Its not about the general effectiveness of CPR and "whether someone is breathing or not" And he isnt making jokes or starting some sort of "does CPR really work" conspiracy theory Its a simple question about the effectiveness of CPR **SPECIFICALLY** on a gunshot wound to the chest, a place you cant tourniquet Bozo 🧠

[@Impaler118]

CPR on a person who had a gunshot wound to the head and was killed instantly is a bit different to just a shot in the chest. It was likely the 911 operator who requested her to start CPR not knowing the extent of her injuries.

[@OhCapitainIAmSinking]

The lady interviewing Kaitlin sounds ike it's her first day, doing this.

[@jacksimone1677]

She is jaw-droppingly bad.

[@erinodoherty452]

I work at level one trauma ER in Chicago, yes we do cpr.

[@KamiNoBaka1]

Bro, my mom had a $6000 bike when she used to ride in the MS150 with her office's team before her knees got too bad, and hers was on the lower end of prices compared to her coworkers. Racing bikes are expensive. Also, if you're fleeing the US to avoid arrest, I would think you would go somewhere without an extradition treaty...

[@Bbfishman]

man what a psycho. what is wrong with these kinds of people? "wahh my partner and i broke up so im going to ruin my own life in order to murder the person my ex is seeing" do these people actually think about anything they do before doing it?

[@mayflower2503]

Exactly right?! I imagine people like this as children walking around in adult suits, reacting to things the way a child would but with the knowledge and ability to do way worse

[@joew7998]

That female cop should never be allowed to interview a suspect again. She should be dropped in rank from detective. Granted this girl was guilty however she asked for an attorney and also asked to leave so her rights were violated and she was held against her will and then a confession was coerced. This girl happened to be guilty but if you were innocent?

[@kdl28]

Last November I had to do something no mother Should never ever have to do. I had to give my oldest son, CPR. He was an asthma sufferer. He had suffered Asthma since he was born. It exist in my heart the Knowledge that I could not save him. The paramedics Could not save him, and they tried with everything possible. I knew my son was gone but I did all I knew how to do (I am an ex EMT). But never stop CPR until the head paramedic calls it.

[@unsheepled]

I’m sorry for your incredible loss ! A friend lost her son in September another lost her daughter a year ago… horrible experience to see my friends go through . I can’t imagine the deep sorrow. Hugs momma !

[@mayflower2503]

This is so awful! I’m so sorry for your loss. Rest in peace to your son 🕊️

[@headkicked]

Brother, I am teaching my son that we live in a surveillance state. He understands that there are cameras everywhere, in stores, parking lots, private homes, street lights, and you never know when someone is pointing a cell phone at you!!! It's wild how in the 90's we used to cry about not wanting a surveillance state but we've welcomed one onto ourselves.

[@CuidightheachODuinn]

Nah, y'all still cry about it.

[@kabby29]

You always deliver a great and thoughtful monologue on the ethics of what we're watching in the middle of these. I really appreciate those.

[@VALENTINA2026]

I can't imagine finding my friend in that position I would be absolutely devastated.

[@FlowerOfSloth]

100% on point about the toxic relationships and searching through the phones. Heed this man's advice.

[@bobbyburch410]

Let’s be honest, are you really that surprised that the guy who wears Birkenstocks and rides road bikes would wear a hat like that? I’m not 😂

[@LgnSknks541]

Us watching this, isn't much different than our parents watching Americas Most Wanted or FBI Files or First 48 and what have you.

[@matthewgilfus1640]

Remember Rescue 911 with Robert Stack? When that was on TV we didn't even have 911 yet.

[@Eric-t1x]

She’s lucky Dexter doesn’t live near by

[@alien-bh5ii]

Finally, an interrogation room thats soundproof. Without the soundproof, it makes it so echoey. Making people's words unclear. I'm surprised that not all interrogation rooms aren't mandatory to be soundproof for how important interrogation rooms are to a case.

[@Aloysius_OHare]

That detective should be FIRED, for how DUMB she was to drop the ball. If your suspect has no SOLID standing to stay in that police office, then you don't let them know ANYTHING

[@jippo91]

The title says that the ex-girlfriend offed the new one, but in the video the narrator says that the ex-girlfriend was the one that took the long nap🤔

[@Violetfantasia7331]

Yea that was a mistake on his part. It was the new girlfriend who did it.

[@Brandon-dy8us]

He was having an affair with the victim therefore she technically was the "new girlfriend"

[@Violetfantasia7331]

@Brandon-dy8us no he wasn't if you watch the whole video he was not cheating. The guy and the victim were together for a bit, but not while he was with the killer. Edit: the narrator does say they had a month long affair, but the guy and the killer were split up. He did remain in contact with her amd they stayed friends. Take that for what you will but the victim would still be the ex.

[@oldmanballer5088]

They were both exes. The one who did it was in the process of moving out after their break up is my understanding.

[@Natatattatification]

Yes I was so confused

[@spookybaby1313]

Leon is spot on with the phone looking business too! If they make you feel like you need to check, leaveee!!! Both girls and guys. Solid advice. It never ends well.

[@patriciamurfitt4590]

That interrogater is horrible at her job😂 Leave and call an attorney

[@skye_high_views]

Went home sick and now watching lush while snuggled in bed.

[@MrsWellner]

Hope you feel better soon.

[@graceaute3648]

Get well soon stranger ❤

[@painmt651]

That lady detective was so bad at trying to act nonchalant! My freaking defenses would’ve gotten up, freaking like level 10 instantly.

[@spencersmustache2844]

I'll bet 3 years until Leon buys a road bike and becomes what he hates.

[@graceaute3648]

Hahaha I’m not betting against you on that one. Only time will tell 😂

[@therealdachshunddjangosmom]

😂😂😂

[@c4mprnapper932]

Leon peacock🚴‍♂️

[@sporemaster97]

Anybody who's not a queef would just get a stationary, he's not going to go buy spandex and get in cars way lmao

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Lol nah he'd have to be going through a crisis to sink to such deapths

[@tergish1]

Once someone asks for a lawyer or even mentions a lawyer no line of questioning is admissible

[@oldmanballer5088]

Wrong. I just watch a lawyer go over this and he said she didn’t ask for a lawyer she said should I get a lawyer and I might need to get a lawyer. She has to demand one. You must say I want a lawyer. You have to ask for one not do what she did. He said they could continue questioning because she didn’t say I want a lawyer. It’s crazy but he said there’s been two case he’s aware of the a Supreme Court ruled you must ask, not do what she did.

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

That's not even a little bit true. Courts and cops will both argue your wordplay unless you're 10000% clear. You need to specifically say "I am invoking my right to remain silent," followed by 'I am invoking my right to an attorney.' Then? STFU. Zip it. Don't give a single syllable to the police. A good example is Alek Minassian (2018 Toronto Van Attack) who DID invoke his right to counsel, counsel told him to zip it, and he still sung like a canary. So the cops, and court, could still use everything because he spoke against counsel.

[@nicholasd3990]

@@JadeAnnabelArt She did very clearly say I would like to leave though

[@LinksQuestResearch]

@@JadeAnnabelArtthey can argue wording all they want but it’s up to a judge with a head on his shoulders to determine if someone was reasonably requesting a lawyer. Absolute wording is best for certainly but judges have ruled in favor of many people that have simply said things along the line of, I should have a lawyer for this or I think I need a lawyer now

[@bsangel93]

Watching things like this really teaches us how important self control is and how murder never solves any problems (who would have thought?)

[@WoahManPower]

We are numb to the videos but when it happens nearby you & if you know the person, it really hits differently.

[@sp00kington]

NIGEL!!! Thank you for at least letting us see that he's okay. I know his ass just sits there calling out to you like the Green Goblin's helmet lol. Tomato Mafia baby!

[@jeffholy872]

Was dope to watch live, we gotta build the live stream community man

[@sophiamartin1971]

“You got clung” lamo Clinging has left the chat may have to go on my tombstone

[@Cherokee51774]

That female officer was so infuriating. She blatantly violated the girl's rights multiple times. To the point I was hoping she wouldn't say answer. Anything the girl said would've been inadmissible. You should NEVER talk to cops. Lawyer FIRST no matter what. You don't need to be detained or arrested. Cops will trick you.

[@ediesaffron3593]

31:46 you’re so right she 1000% dropped the ball 🤦🏼‍♀️ this entire interrogation was *SO* awkward 😂 36:55 this impression is too freaking accurate omg lol

[@mellee54]

This detective doesn't know what she's doing. Incredibly frustrating watching her fumble and repeat herself. If I were that suspect, I would've walked out sooner rather than later.

[@doomlabs769]

My first and only words: "Lawyer"

[@MrsWellner]

Only works if you're under arrest.

[@boomnews815]

​@@MrsWellnerOr detained.

[@oldmanballer5088]

Even if they just want to talk have a lawyer present. It’s your right

[@SurvivalistMedia]

In sales we have a thing called selling from the bottom. The girl cop may have been playing dumb to increase Kaitlyn’s confidence. Girl Talk. Get a lawyer.

[@deathproof8732]

Wow. This detective tried to "Oh hey girl, yeah, men! Am I right" he brought your name up and I wanted to ask- Kaitlyn - no Detective- Yeeeah, well I have some questions you could answer- Kaitlyn- No I am leaving Detective - oh ok yeah, Did he blah blah blah

[@jacksimone1677]

It’s like she’s the office typist who wandered into the interrogation by mistake and decided to bluff her way through it. Totally unprofessional and potentially very damaging to the case.

[@AaronGreen-dc2hh]

Leave it to Leon to make a totally insensitive video about a murder victim, laugh about it, and then try to push a scam therapy company for some extra $$ 💀

[@YarpYarpy]

He's falling off fast

[@ljmac9679]

As a former Homicide Detective, this officer doing the questioning lacks experience, has no grasp on nuisance and is over talking to the point she is jeopardizing the case. Why they have her in there with a suspect is beyond comprehension. Detectives are watching via CCTV and the fact no one stepped in to relieve her and take over is just so sloppy. She single handedly could have blown this case up. Very strange.

[@xXBL4KAl3YSSXx]

Well after my 35 years as a homicide detective in a somewhat larger US city, it played out as a classic tactic. I’ve seen this exact method used multiple times and have used it myself to get convictions.

[@03roadking]

She will be a good interrogater ....eventually 😂😂😂

[@kencali3303]

Leon Lusciously SWOLE

[@fearbreazy5558]

It’s great to see people being brought to justice, it’s so fascinating to watch the process on how they interrogate and track people down through all forms of media from texts to cctv to gps it’s pretty incredible and then they catch her after she flees and bring her back to the states and charge her

[@AnnieSadler96]

Cpr on a gunshot victim, "wont that just juice them like an orange?" Sound's like some Family guy inspired sheet😂😂 Peter Griffin doing chest compressions on Ernie The Giant Chicken and every time Peter presses on the chickens chest, blood sprays up and out of the gun shot wounds like a water sprinkler at a kids water park. 😂😂 Dark humor.

[@suspiciousindividual7657]

Definitely right about the phone/psycho angle 😮. My kids mom unfortunately ended up being way off it stated with the suspicion and got Way worse. Eventually, I had to leave and get an RO. Kids came with me they were old enough to make their choice

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

Running away to Costa Rica is crazy. As if they wouldn’t extradite

[@KeiVisual]

COMPRESS the bullet wound, to STOP the bleeding. Also-! I didn't hear the 911 operator tell her to do CPR, don't they normally stay on the phone with you until the cops get there? AND they talk you through CPR?

[@chipsdubboX]

Although he is innocent, I could never trust a man that wears open toed shoes

[@averydizzle]

Leon… you’re absolutely right about everything to do with this one. This girl needs to find a new job, or she needs to stick to paperwork.

[@AOAvina]

We need a oompaville and lush collab!

[@Kyle_Beckwith]

God forbid Leon, don’t ever go into law enforcement 🤦‍♂️

[@TanyaRando]

Leon, where were you with the dating advice and red flags when I was a teenager? I’d have walked away from a few of them much quicker if I’d been able to tell the difference between someone being romantic and someone acting like a stalker! 😂