Less than Real: How MGS2 Made History

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For the last 20 years, the 'meme' of Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid 2 has made history. But what were the conditions that gave rise to such a game? Why did MGS2 matter in 2001, and how does it still matter in 2021? What specifically, did this oceanic title represent for the medium? Let's find out!
Join your host, FSP's Jorin Lee, as he takes you inside the seminal tactical espionage action of the "Hollywood Game", MGS2, like you've never seen before! Includes rare/ unseen footage, concept art, soundtrack samples, making of footage, and much, much more! Enjoy Boss - but remember...there is more to leave behind when we're gone than mere DNA. Don't obsess over words so much. Find something to believe in, then pass it on!
3:48 - Introduction
2:54 - Part One
21:43 - Part Two
28:58 - Part Three
38:08 - Part Four
54:16 - Part Five
01:36:00 - Conclusion
01:38:44 - End Credits
"The long awaited sequel to the PlayStation game Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty was released on November 13th, 2001. MGS2 does not star the former FOXHOUND agent Solid Snake. Instead, Hideo Kojima took players into the mind of super soldier Raiden, a stealth operative on his first live combat scenario. His objective is to stop a group of terrorists, calling themselves the Sons of Liberty. This includes blowing up a large oil cleanup facility and killing the President of the United States.
MGS2's innovations included its introduction of the laser sight mechanic for more accurate aiming, and a refined cover system that allowed both players and enemies to shoot from cover. It also introduced collective enemy AI routines that relied on squad tactics rather than working individually, while individual enemies expressed fear and even birds had their own AI routines. MGS2 was considered to have the best enemy AI in gaming for many years. The physics was also a major step forward for gaming, particularly the sophisticated particle effects for its time (including for individual drops of rain) and the way objects moved.
The game earned both critical and commercial acclaim upon release, with the highest sales and review scores in the series. However, the game's convoluted story, excessive use of Codec conversations and new protagonist Raiden was criticized by a number of fans, temporarily relegating him to a joke character (even with Kojima himself) until his popular transformation in Metal Gear Solid 4.
Despite the controversy surrounding the unexpected bait-and-switch and convoluted storyline at the time, Sons of Liberty is today seen as a landmark title in the history of video games. It is considered the first truly postmodern video game, is frequently cited as a primary example of artistic expression in video games, and is generally considered one of the most influential games of the past decade, both for its artistic influence on later video game storylines (most notably Eternal Darkness, Killer7, Portal, and especially BioShock, which even featured a very similar plot twist) as well as its influence on the gameplay mechanics of many action games since."
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[@roc5291]

Sons of Liberty is easily the most influential Metal Gear game ever made. From the quantum leap in graphics, to the way it accurately predicted our current, echo chamber ridden social media age, to the groundbreaking idea of manipulating the player inside and outside of the game into unknowingly following the Patriots plan. Kojima has yet to dance this close to the fire ever again in my opinion. The games that came after it all had their own individual strengths, but none of them were as ballsy with it’s story and themes like MGS2.

[@drunkensailor112]

Imo death stranding comes close. It's freightening how it predicted the world we are in since early 2020

[@lgtvlgtv8686]

A quantum leap would mean a tiny leap

[@999a0s]

i think he's gonna do it again. death stranding was kojima adjusting to running a solo studio, after already getting his shot blocked twice back to back with MGSV and PT. whatever's next coming down the pike is going to be crazy in my opinion.

[@drunkensailor112]

@Babes & Board Games but the prediction was insane even if it was 1 year

[@aifens1450]

Hideo Kojima is a God, he time travels change my mind.

[@quinnobi]

Me: “I’m really into Metal Gear deep dive analysis videos right now” McD’s Employee: “So would you like to order or…”

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

Can confirm, I was the employee.

[@MarioLuigi0404]

@@Redbird-dh7mu can confirm. I was the broken ice cream machine

[@meaningfulmindfulness15]

Can confirm, I was in the passenger's seat behind them with the window rolled down. Heard everything without codec or a directional microphone.

[@Snakeskin94]

Can confirm, I was the North American Fall Webworm near the window.

[@mgf909]

Yo fr that happened to me bro but at Carls Jr lmao

[@mobiuszero1018]

Can you believe that a game that has been around since 2001 is still SO damn influential? Some things are just built to last..

[@BJ-zd2or]

You can dig into mgs2 and still find stuff that amazes me. I bought the game in 2006 my first mgs game, but before that it stuck on the demo tralier for me as telling me somthing, and i wasnt even a mgs fan then as I am today. Its left a huge impact.

[@aliforeman1819]

You are both correct about the dopeness. However metal gear was around in the 80's fellas 😏

[@cheeseleader09]

Lindy

[@c117ls7]

I still play it from time to time

[@Cernunn0s90]

@@aliforeman1819 Nobody disputed that

[@tmantonytv1166]

The way this game is written is unlike anything else around

[@kevinbissinger]

I disagree, it was a lot like Metal Gear Solid 1 and 3

[@adoesntequala5871]

Kohima must have smoked dmt with rogan

[@itsgeegra]

@@kevinbissinger stylistically MGS2 was a massively different beast

[@ZGGuesswho]

the way this essay is structured is also

[@Ricardo_Lucero]

That’s why I liked this one more than 3. The game feels like mgs1

[@michiganjack1337]

I remember completing this game the week it came out with my cousin and friend. After we finished the game we all looked at each other and just started laughing. We had thought this was perhaps the dumbest story ever, the gameplay is what we raved about. Now 20 years later in my 40’s I can truly appreciate what Hideo was trying to say. So what I’ve learned is never underestimate Hideo no matter how crazy and esoteric.

[@aarondorris7639]

That’s crazy I had the exact opposite response beat it when I was 11 and didn’t fully understand the story, but the last 3-4 hours blew me away and changed my conception of what the future be and how we would receive information

[@teza5809]

@killwill83 Yeah, if we talk about character and story overall, it is kinda, yeah, could be better. But I think what people praise is the twist and message. The twist is pretty unique and neat, something out of the world at that time. But, yeah story wise, I prefer MGS3, the plot is more neat And enjoyable with a beautiful twist

[@Kirby-Krios]

@@teza5809 same

[@midnitesnac]

I think if you have a high interest in technology, war, and history you will understand the story a bit better. Of course as kids we don't have interest in any of this stuff, its only when we get older and mature we start to see things a lot differently. Mgs4 really blew my mind with the some of the stuff ocelot has to say to snake. A lot of what he as to say is pretty realistic and the future we are already in. I like video games like any other man on this comment section, but metal gear will always have a special place in my heart.

[@AgentMorgan2010]

MGS2 has the shittiest story, but by far the most cogent and prevalent actual message of any of the other games in the series. And that's why I definitely respect it, even though I kind of hate it at the same time. Because everything surrounding it -- apart from the gameplay -- sucks.

[@henrik1743]

This game was so way ahead of it's time it's staggering, the whole thing about trash data and overflow of data. I am 25 and was 12-13 when I played it the first time and it hit me on a really deep level, and I was also scared shitless by the Colonel A.I, cause I thought myself he was acting weird af.

[@cinemashotcritique539]

Yea when they started calling you and telling you’ve been playing a little too long that’s when I started wonder what the hell was going on lol

[@henrik1743]

@@cinemashotcritique539 yeah that's when I was really weirded out as well hahaha "TURN THE GAME CONSOLE OFF!"

[@meaningfulmindfulness15]

I experienced the same freaking thing man. I remember putting the controller down for a little bit and getting up to get a snack or something because I remember feelings weird/nervous and trying not to think about it. Lol

[@NicoTheCinderace]

I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock! *_I NEED SCISSORS! 61!_*

[@TheSoulCrisis]

@@cinemashotcritique539 Programmers fucking with you lol

[@f1delio]

You have to be considered the premiere Kojima biographer at this point. Hopefully you get to interview him some day.

[@smith6752]

speaking a bit of japanese might help lol

[@johnpaulmckeown3124]

@@smith6752 that's what interpreter's are for 👌

[@headstrongsrk]

Very good point

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

E.

[@shophet125]

1:34:40 Raiden is probably not a narcissist per se; like James, he's suffering from derealization (and James may also be experiencing a dissociative disorder). It's not so much that Raiden thinks he's better than other people, it's that he's terribly wounded psychologically and afraid of getting into close contact with others.

[@artophile7777]

Who is James?

[@blackadam6445]

It’s about time this game started to get the credit it deserves. Everyone always laughed it off cause some parts are so weird like with the colonel but… isn’t fact always stranger than fiction? There. That’s my dramatic and intelligent response for the day

[@wohdinhel]

I have to say, the way you edit your opening sequences is so riveting. You’ve become a master of setting the tone of the video before you say a single word, and that’s worth applause on its own. Keep it up king

[@AKIRTV9]

shoutout adam curtis

[@807D14M0ND5]

@@AKIRTV9 I thought the same thing! High praise

[@arglebargle42]

The opposite for me, it felt like wasting 2 minutes of my life.

[@ghouldash9761]

This game is timeless. Really foreshadowed a lot of shit that would happen in the future. But no matter how many years pass, MGS2 will always have a special place in my heart.

[@wolfen8619]

@@omarsheriff51 It has a charm however

[@kennethphillipsii]

The rate you make these top quality videos leads me to believe you’ve got some Uber focus or substance abuse issues.

[@neil340]

Think about how old this game is how excellent it still looks and plays today.

[@omarsheriff51]

Looks, yes. Plays, hell no.

[@nex1587]

Oh no An 1hr 30min, well-edited video that will make me lose all productivity

[@ShahjahanMasood]

That intro gave me nostalgia and ptsd wrapped into one package. oh boy

[@Dillman502]

I also played this game as a young kid, before ever experiencing the first game. The finale left me absolutely flabbergasted in a way I only understood when I got older. I couldn't make heads or tails of the story, yet simultaneously I somehow felt some of the most vivid dread a game has ever made me feel, as if I was in over my head. Thing is, I *absolutely was*. I think experiencing MGS2 first really helped put me in the shoes of Raiden, the entire narrative felt frustratingly, actively hostile toward me right up until Snake's speech, but I knew on some level that it wasn't a bad story, I just didn't have the faculties to unpack what I was being shown. Love the video, I really can't beleive how much substantive content you manage to produce on the whole series.

[@sabergun]

Same. I replayed mgs2 in 2019 and I couldn't believe how appropriate it was. Disinformation everywhere. Data inundation. Everyone thinks they are right. We are living in an age totally predicted by Kojima. I really think this was the peak of the series from a story telling / future vision perspective. So wild to follow up mgs1 with this as well.

[@omarsheriff51]

Jack's story is super cringy. The Rose / Raiden codec calls are just the worst tbh

[@havocbringer2100]

Jorin Lee should be hired by Kojima Productions.

[@rgm4646]

I was hooked after the first 10 minutes of every Metal Gear game.

[@chemergency]

The Document of MGS2 is so cool, I wish more games had such extensive and detailed interactive making-of documentaries.

[@scottmichaelhedge5055]

Metal Gear Solid 2 and Silent Hill 2 in the same year. Konami used to be one of the finest developers in the world.

[@MobiusLeader007]

MGS2 was my first Metal Gear game. Its always held a special place in my heart and for years I was saddened by how people looked down on it. Its nice to see how appreciated the game is now, especially with how relevant its become in our current world.

[@camrunner6633]

Alot of it was the main charater switch that left people resenting raiden

[@2hurt2healmedia]

Just when I thought you covered mgs2 in every form, you just keep diving deeper. Thanks boss.

[@skermunkel6002]

I can't believe the script for the story was mostly written in 1999... It truly aged like fine wine.

[@marciorodrigo6863]

It's so rare to see people producing something that isn't shallow these days, that when I find a channel like yours, I have a little faith in humanity again. This is definitely the best way to talk about a franchise with so many layers like Metal Gear. Speaking of details, that effect of the sun on Olga's scene (1:17:48) is something I've also seen in another game where the developers were also obsessed with the little details: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

[@marciorodrigo6863]

You could also hear the sound of the wind swaying the vegetation around the entrance to the Temple of Time, and the sounds of animals such as wolves and birds at various times. It is also possible to see many places on the map in the distance, such as the Death Mountain, or even the Kakariko Village. As far as the setting and pillars of modern open world games are concerned, there are good examples along with MGS2 that helped form the foundation we have today.

[@DerHalbeEuro]

Getting so many year 2000 - 2002 vibes watching this video. Nostalgia 😍

[@outerheavenorphan4953]

I played Mgs2 first time in 2007 and without memory card but had one of most if not the most powerful game experience in 25 years of gaming. I will never forget how I played trough from the Tanker chapter all the way to arsenal Gear. When AI Colonel told me to turn off the console immediately I froze got scared and really turned it off. Iwas alone unable to process what just happened. Not to mention the codec conversation with US president saying he has no real power. Jaw dropped in revelation like moments the video game made me reconsider my view at geopolitics and on media system mainstream opinions etc. Next day I started to walkthrough again from the Solid Snake Tanker Chapter. That day I beat the game. I was overwhelmed by multiple aspects the beautiful graphics goose bumping soundtrack highly addictive gameplay all nailed by amazing story and characters. Fast forward 14 years later.Yesterday I plugged in PS5 for the first time after almost six years of playing PS4. No big vibes, played cod cold war and enlisted. I was not dragged into it. Death stranding was game where I was 100 percent sure it will be as great as Metal Gear but after 2-3 hours the disappointment kicked in. Back in 2013 I bought PSP from friend and thanks to hacks I played trough snatcher and policenauts for the first time. Beat them with help of guides, I enjoyed them more than death stranding.on Ps4 and 5 cant run MGS 4 which is also disappointing. Either current gen games lost its magic or We are getting too old to enjoy them. Or both

[@bluegill5802]

1:18:51 I like also how MGS3 expanded on this idea by making the enemy supply line your infiltration route essentially. I always love how attention was given to make the bases feel functional and realistic in every game

[@lunarblackstar1]

That E3 2000 MGS2 trailer was probably one of the biggest nails in my poor beloved Dreamcast 🙏 (big Sega kid in the 90s..) I remember Microsoft announcing they were entering the console market with the Xbox and most gamers HATING it then lol.. so I went from Dreamcast to PS2 and MGS, SSX tricky, DMC, GTA 3 etc amazing 💜 best times in gaming IMO

[@Fabian.Singh47]

Amazing how you keep dishing out content like this. Keep it up man.

[@amotucalva]

This game was waaaay ahead of it's time.

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

Your channel here is one of the most exceptional I've ever seen! I stumbled on a vid on the home page last year sometime , something I'm most thankful for. This is possibly the only channel I've subbed to that I find consistently more impressive with each video I watch, and since I'm a Neanderthal I didn't initially understand why this was lol. Then it finally dawned on me that it's because of the ambition you put into these babies that I just haven't seen done the same anywhere else. You do this shit consistently and are always finding new, interesting ways to present your content and it's just fucking awesome and most appreciated! These are worthy of Premium TV!

[@kdizzy07]

12:12 Shrek confirmed playable in MGS Remake

[@midnightsin9324]

As a 12 year old I shut the game off my first time through.. Campbell scared the shit outta me 😂😂

[@paulsmith9192]

Wonder if that Abdanded theroies of mgs remake are true

[@D0NTREPLY]

i know they rank MGS3 as the greatest but no one can deny that MGS2 is the most important, influental, impactful and groundbreaking of the entire series. its also my personal favourite of the series.

[@BuffyMcKneecaps]

"Babe wake up new MGS2 futurasound"

[@PengusKhan]

I didn't play MGS2 until I think 2019 and Its.crazy that people hated this game. It's unfortunate how close to life it hits now...

[@EricTheBroBean]

Playing MGS when it came out on PS1 over and over, the anticipation from when MGS2 was teased in epic Kojima fashion to the release of the game was unbearable. A MGS game without Kojima is like a Tarantino movie without Tarantino.. This mastermind blew our minds over and over! Thank you Kojima-San! Oh and btw: I've spent more than 10.000 hours in a cardboard box!

[@BAIGAMING]

23:36 I think everybody treated Zone of the Enders badly. Everybody bought it back in the day just to get the MGS2 demo disc 😐I liked ZOE and its sequel, they were really fun mecha games, even better than some of the Armored Core's in my opinion.

[@Snakeskin94]

Damn man, I'm not ready for your MGS2 analysis' to come to an end- they're literally the best on the internet.

[@lunarluxe9832]

Analyses? Analysi? Analysum

[@Snakeskin94]

@@lunarluxe9832 idk bruh I typed that at 2 am on my phone lol

[@philharland]

MGSV Fob draws a lot of from the big shell. As if the concept was realised more fully.

[@Mental_Health_Matters]

My favourite game in the series, so many memories of playing it as a kid

[@nev2221]

if only my essay prompts were about the metal gear franchise or kojima

[@Bori.1776]

i am indeed first.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

O koto kawai

[@caliberaid8527]

The audio/visual presentation is unlike any other documentary-timely made video I've watched about the MGS series.

[@CGMiller]

This video captures what made MGS2 so damn memorable to me. The atmosphere and feelings that game gave me have been unmatched to this very day. I played it probably around 10-11 years old. 32 years old now. MGS 1 I played before 2 and loved it. MGS3 was amazing and I enjoyed it. MGS 4 I did as well though I didn't give it as much time and patience as the others and still playing MGS 5 right now and greatly enjoying it. They can all have hints of it. But MGS 2 and particularly arsenal gear forward gives me chills even thinking about it. The colonel going crazy, the story progressing into something I could barely comprehend but at the same time thought I understood. The madness of it all. I don't think any game nor movie nor series nor book has ever got me close to a feeling like that again.

[@gundle_dx]

We need this man to talk to Kojima himself

[@-Snakekiller-]

I got to play Metal Gear Solid 1 the night before the EU release and played it right through the night! When Metal Gear Solid 2 came out, I didn't have a PS2 but a friend. On the day of the release there was a party at one of our friends. I begged my buddy to bring the PS2 with him. Keep reminding him ... I bought the game that day. And so it happened that instead of celebrating with all my friends, I connected the PS2 to his parents' TV, sat on an air mattress on the floor and played the 2nd part. And until the early hours of the morning. My friends didn't know the games as well as I did, but kept coming back again and again to watch them. In the end, many sat around me and were really excited to see how I tried the final fight against the many metal gears over and over again. In the end I made it and was so relieved ... One of the best parties ever XDDD

[@mrpetebojangles21]

I see anything involving MGS2, the greatest game of all time (possibly tied with MGS1/Half Life 2), I click

[@jonny_2_gnar]

I like this guy's videos... but too often he tries to sound like he's the one what that came up with the information when it's been available for years... he puts it together well, though

[@wh0_odat644]

I remember seeing this game teased on e3 around the time ps2 was dropping I waited for this game only. That opening scene of Snake on the George Washington Bridge is still monumental. The whole play through on the oil tanker graphic was awesome...no words describe how I feel towards this game.

[@ARDG89]

At first I was disappointed you played as Raiden in 2001 but this game grew on me and now I don't mind it at all. The story telling in this one is my favorite and loved every villian more than any MGS. I had no idea Raiden was 33 in MGS2 which is crazy because snake was 23 in mgs 1. just shows u how bad snake really aged even before we played MGS 4.

[@ElricSowrd]

Zone Of the Enders was a thing to me since when I was first aware of the game before PS2 was brought over to the US. I never got my hands on Onimusha or The Bouncer. The only Onimusha Title that I've played and own is Onimusha 3. Someone was giving it away along with a PS2 Version of Max Payne 2. 1:08:52- I didn't know that. 1:16:48- I thought the lab was Modeled after the room where you fight Black Color/Ninja from Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

[@voxlvalyx]

"there really is no library" Wait so they were saying... PS2 has no games? Edit: oh like development libraries

[@brandbusters183]

Metal Gear just seems to bring the Best out of Content Creators such as Jorin Lee or Aamon Hawk.

[@Demigod_3scrub]

I love this! The type of vid you watch and eat your dinner with.. Pretty Good..

[@donniedarko2815]

What in the actual heck Jack! I know you’re trying to save the world by teaching people about Kojima San but slow down on the chiral network slave work Boss. Get some rest at mother base.

[@aroccoification]

"Heighten the tension of stealth as only the playstation 2 can" Copy and paste gameplay from ps1 game with better first person view and the ability to roll... revolutionary gameplay only the ps2 can handle!

[@joshuakolton9955]

Many people didn't like this game but it's the one that got me into the series in the first place.

[@Slowdough99]

Critics loved it. Young Western audiences didn't understand at launch. It went directly over their heads. Much similar to Death Stranding. Another deeply philosophical game chronically misunderstood by people here in the U.S.

[@iconofsin4578]

MGS 1 and 3 were good but 2 was disappointing

[@Spasstiful]

True. But one has to view it with historical consideration; MSG2 was basically mocking the player which was at the same time audience and actor. People were expecting a great game (which it is) and not an incredibly thoughtprovoking piece of _art_ . And it archived that - that's why we are here, 20 years later, right? Personally, I was a little punk when I was watching my brother playing it through back in the day. I didn't understand much of it, but it left me, at age 9, a very uneasy feeling in the end (probably more caused by the atmosphere than the plots and stories I was too young to grasp).

[@EternallyEve]

Hearing this guy's voice I can't help but imagine sitting in a dark room with George Wood going on and on about Metal Gear.

[@virtualsnake1994]

Mgs2 was edgy, smart and ambitious. It almost seems like these values are being lost in modern society... now most movies and games seem safe and watered down in intelectual property. I'm afraid of a stupidification of the masses.

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

Who else stayed in the tanker pantry for 20 minutes every playthrough so they could stare in amazement at all the shit breaking when you shot it?

[@natalyz4141]

I loved this game because it introduced me to the MGS series and because it also had Fatman in it! I'm still in love with him after 2 years, he's so handsome and cute!

[@Zawamin]

HYPED, love your work Futura!

[@Thunderbeingz]

Rewatching this because I just got the HD collection And I finally get to play the game that's always intrigued me. Your videos are a big reason why I love this series of games and have barely ever played. (I had Nintendo)

[@vergangenheit6684]

Link to that synth version of "Can't say goodbye to yesterday"?

[@oliver1367]

Who actually turned the console off their console when Rose and the Colonel told you to? I know I did.

[@BAIGAMING]

Another series that holds up well like this game's story is the show Serial Experiments Lain, released about the same time. It showed kids using the leading edge of new technology, and it showed them texting, using emoticons as they were called, and using the precursors of social media.

[@harrisonfackrell]

Holding off on speaking until 2:40 was a very Metal Gear thing to do.

[@venomsn4kee]

So clever how it was edited in such a way that it’s documentary style fits the time period it came out in. The prefacing of what it’s about, the pacing, the quality.

[@Nastara]

This game shaped who I would become.

[@sciencio]

Thank you for making this video.

[@Jose-se9pu]

This game is about to turn 20 years old...damn

[@alolanstarboy]

Honestly this is one of the games I’m glad I came late to, I first played MGS2 just earlier this year and thanks to experiencing it in a modern context I truly felt the gravity behind the message Kojima was trying to send about the digital age. I’ve read a lot about how audiences at the time of release didn’t really “get” the story or at least fully appreciate it, which makes sense because that was a completely different time to today, when we are well into the digital age. This game hit me so much harder because my first experience was in a modern context where the dystopia proposed by the game is very much a reality, it had me questioning my whole belief system after completing it, and still makes me check myself even now.

[@doctorbrown5957]

I used to spend hours making Raiden slip on bird shit. Probably my favorite detail of that whole game.

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

This was me shooting the glasses at the bar and looking at the posters in the lockers to hear the kissing noises

[@Skalias]

This is the best documentary i have ever seen

[@iAdeelSohail]

One of the best MGS2 Essays Jorin Lee. I didn't want to lose my track and concentration and so I watched it in parts. I LOVED IT.

[@TehUltimateSnake]

Nobody else pumps out as many quality MGS documentaries as you. Keep it up!

[@DrewSwenson]

Wow... The first and only time I ever played MGS2 was a Saturday and I played all the way through... When the AI started chastising Raiden/ The Player, my mom had sided with GW. Wow, just wow. I truly haven't touched it in over 10 years... I feel like that needs to change.

[@libertylivesin1776]

Full length video!? Nice.

[@johnhinde8216]

have you got music Id for all the tracks used?

[@grugi6347]

You know it's always good if it's a 1 hour + long MGS video

[@FalsPals]

Less than real: this dude's upload schedule given the lengths of the videos

[@Z-Mikes00]

The S3 plan was the 1st real arg lmfao

[@Trav2d3dArt]

I played this game countless times and saw new footage in this video. Amazingly well put together. There really is no game like this one.

[@ParappatheRapper]

Interestingly, your voice sounds a lot like the voice used in the Playstation Underground demo disc narration (Like that found in volume 2 Issue 4 for example). I highly doubt you're that person but that's what it reminded me a lot of. Thanks for the video, very nice and in depth on MGS2.

[@number1enemyoftheuseless985]

I remember how many times I played the demo on PS2.... So good.

[@OneTwoMark]

I remember playing this when I was around 9 or 10 on ps2 and I had no memory card, so I had to keep restarting. One day I got close to the end but it was midnight and my mam was shouting down the stairs for me to go to sleep. It was right around the time the colonel goes haywire, and I was freaking out by myself in the middle of the night.

[@PortCityBalrog]

They are gonna look back at your MGS Solid videos in 20 years and see the greatness you have done too

[@CyrusCageSCWS]

I'm picking up little bits of terminology you're using and I think I've figured out roughly what kind of stuff you research and I dig it 😉

[@iAdeelSohail]

Since I am from Pakistan, One Request I want to make #JorinLee is to Cover the connection between MGS2 and Pakistan. I have noticed that Pakistan has been mentioned whether in terms of East and West or going for the virtuous mission or if Raiden is going to confront the Senator. I'm pretty much sure there is a strong relationship.

[@PattPlays]

57:00 Ah yes the two ways to build 'Pyramids'. Honest culturally driven homogeneous willful cooperation across a devoted team, and well uh.. abusing your animators.

[@OliHarris]

I've watched a lot on KZbin in my time; this is easily one of the greatest video essays I've yet seen. The detail and research is incredible!! You should be very proud.

[@Askelot]

nice work, buddy. one of the best videos about mgs2 for it's 20th anniversary.

[@PhilosophersLegacy83]

One of the greatest game series ever! Was 15 yrs old when beat MGS 1 that I rented from a blockbuster not knowing anything about the series and couldn't put it down. Was bout 18 yrs old when MGS 2 dropped and another epic tale. Raiden introduction threw me off but played through to the end and was awestruck by all of it. Memorable boss battles and food for thought.

[@dibs0equiped]

This game is just too good.

[@Strixer-gk2kz]

It's videos like these that make me hate MGS4 even more. Phenomenal work!

[@immyopic3319]

I was a 90s kid and oh boy Did I constantly heard and saw everyone panicking about the Y2K commotion. All I said to myself was, "Welp, I don't know what's gonna happen, but at least I'm old enough/conscious enough to witness the change from the 20th century to 21st century and see if the world does actually blow up". But during that time, I wasn't aware of the Metal Gear series' existence at all until Super Smash Bros Brawl was announced for the Wii and saw a trailer for this Snake guy, that was when I became aware of its existence (all throughout my childhood and still to this day, I always went with Nintendo as my primary game system).

[@Shokisan1]

Your videos are all so incredibly great, thank you very very much for your awesome insights

[@knot3d_]

Sigh. MGS2 is a major media icon - however, certain aspects of it are highly overrated. The game did a lot of smart things, but at a major expense of other game-experience factors. Kojima basically overreached, such as the micro-detail immersion where it doesn't really matter to stealth purists (I don't care for breaking bottles, glasses & saucers in the handful of kitchens/pantries you encounter because it don't matter if my point is to avoid aggro style of play in the first place). It also always irks me how the graphics & immersion are so overhyped while only showcasing the minute Tanker section. The Big Bland Backtracking Shell could have been made waaay more compelling to play through if designed differently, EVEN WHILE retaining the original points Kojima was trying to make. MGS2, Genius as a story and media icon, but overhyped as a gameplay game.