The Most Important Kojima Game You Haven't Played

[@squeebbb]

I love that Zanzibarlands anthem is basically just We Wish You a Merry Christmas

[@Dirty_Davos]

they are hardboiled mercenaries, what do you expect?🤣

[@IzzuZiq]

I do wonder if Kojima remembered that detail when he made Big Boss a Santa believer many years later

[@brushketo]

Wait theirs no way really now need to listen to it without this video cause 😭 that's goofiest theme song tune I could Imagine . . But have had MSX Solid Snake 🐍 living rent free in my head for a while now . .

[@tomdriver9968]

I totally hear that!!!

[@MrLFJ7]

I liked to believe a diamond dog or MSF soldier among the ranks took music lessons from Kazuhira Miller.

[@romulocasas4906]

If this was made into a movie in the 80s guaranteed it would’ve been cinema history.

[@decapitatedfoul7135]

@@vlc-cosplayer I think that's just where they got the name for his alias in MGS 2 but I have no idea also this game came out in 1990

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

@@vlc-cosplayer yes he is named after snake in escape from New York and they both have the same basic idea of a 1 man infiltration mission solicited by the government. There are actually a lot of similarities if you really start digging

[@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778]

Also escape from LA

[@Comkill117]

Metal Gear 2 definitely has one of the best intros ever.

[@squeebbb]

Doot do DOO DO Doo Doo (cue choir harmonies)

[@phoboswhiplash]

In a series with amazing intros, MGS3 and MSG2, THE MG2 intro is among the best

[@thecarrotmonster8827]

I first heard it playing the HD collection, and all I could think was WOW! Pure Metal Gear at its best, I put MG2 above V and 4 even with its 8 bit limitations. It would have blown people away if it had released in the west. Kind of think SEGA missed a trick by not porting this version to the Mega drive. Would have given Super Metroid a run for its money

[@Dilemina]

@@thecarrotmonster8827 would've been a cool alternative history. Except the whole point of the game was to make up for the terrible port and sequel on the NES. Kojima probably would veto it unless he was able to direct, and then he would probably request to put it on Sega/Mega CD like snatcher.

[@thecarrotmonster8827]

@@Dilemina yeah that's what I mean, since SEGA were Nintendo's biggest rivals. Would have been a system seller

[@nightsider2705]

I've recently decided to play all the Metal Gear Games again, even the ones I haven't played yet. I was blown away by how amazing MG2 was.

[@SnakeHiggins]

I'll go on record and say it's easily the greatest 8-bit game ever created in my opinion.

[@Skater6453]

This game needs to be remade so bad. It goes along with the first Metal Gear Solid so well.

[@gustavolimon3706]

Nah they will just keep remaking mgs over and over

[@gustavolimon3706]

@@Jackapher played both mg 1 and 2 on msx both amazing games mg2 shares alot of mgs but would be great to see both remade

[@timterwan]

Mgs 1, 2, 3 on switch

[@naterambles8525]

@@timterwan just get a Vita. You can transfer mgs from ps3 and both 2 & 3 are available in the remaster collection.

[@DirtMaguirk]

They should turn the original MSX titles into an animated series.

[@Daniel-bi5ci]

I’ve played this game before MGS1…and i sincerely think the latter is that well acclaimed cause people didn’t knew this hidden gem. So many things treated as genius-like were originated here, not in mgs.

[@LUCKO2022]

Bullshit. You lie

[@kisnyirati]

Metal Gear Legacy Collection and MGS5: Definitive Edition were my best purchases ever. I've played throught the series and I'm on Phantom Pain now. Metal Gear 2 is one of the best in the series and I loved making notes and write down tactics, drawing maps and routes on paper. I was actually amazed by techical jump compared to MG1. This piece of art deserves every bit of respect

[@dev-4525]

Now finish the series with survive

[@kisnyirati]

@@dev-4525 ummm.. I think I'll pass, and replay the whole series again to get the 100% on every one of them :D

[@dev-4525]

@@kisnyirati jokes aside rising is Canon aswell and doesn't come with the legacy collection so get it if you haven't already

[@kisnyirati]

@@dev-4525 yeah I've counted it in, I freaking love that game. Thanks for the shout though, you are a good soldier

[@dev-4525]

@@kisnyirati A salute from one soldier to another 🎖 good luck with your future 100% playthroughs

[@bigboss1fan]

“I don’t like war...just life outside of Heaven just suits me better.” Always a treat when you upload 😊

[@BobLogical]

I don't like war. It's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere.

[@knightshousegames]

I feel like Metal Gear has always been a sort of iterative process, with especially in the first 4 games, repeats of different ideas until the idea could be fully realized. Like if you really look at it, MG, MG2, MGS, and MGS2, were essentially the same game, lots of events that mirrored each other from one game to the next, but iterated on and perfected each time, with MGS2 taking this idea and going super meta with it, almost bringing this idea into the story itself, like Raiden was just pantomiming those previous iterations. In a way he was sorta realizing their culmination, from a mechanical perspective. But even just from a gameplay perspective, MG2 feels almost as much like a 2D version of MGS as MGS: Ghost Babel did, just in the feel of the gameplay, the way crawling and hiding works, and how the boss fights are structured, you really just feel echos of MGS. The first 3 games especially feel like an image slowly coming into focus, with MGS2 putting that image in a nice frame. Kojima sorta did this again with Portable Ops, Peacewalker, and TPP. But instead of it being the Tactical Espionage Action Formula, it was more the Tactical Espionage Operations formula, where it brings in battlefield logistics and the sense of running a much larger scale operation from the perspective of a commander. Each game felt like it tried to build on this idea, until TPP was technologically on the level that it could fully realize the idea.

[@Nixo66]

Portable ops is the most slept on game in the series in my opinion. Not counting the AC!D games

[@Mechanicoid]

I still believe this game has the best soundtrack in the series.

[@zzzxxx4295]

I think mgs3 and Peace Walker have better

[@Mechanicoid]

@@zzzxxx4295 to each his own. For a game that came out on the MSX 2, Metal Gear 2's soundtrack is impressive given the limitations of the hardware. And as good as the Metal Gear series soundtracks have been, that intro theme can't be beat.

[@supremeworld87]

It does. Theme of Solid Snake and Zanzibar breeze kill it

[@ilikepigeons6101]

Indeed

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@zzzxxx4295 metal gear rising would want to have a talk with you

[@EdoloChannel]

MG2 is seriously good, even for today's standards. Love it. I think it's one of the best metal gear titles

[@hectorzamarron9484]

I knew he kept us waiting for a reason , that right there is why your the best, Boss.

[@Visuwyg]

I was always impressed how early Shinkawas artstyle was present in metal gear - now I learned that the artwork was redrawn at a later date. Makes sense. Connery, Einstein and Stallone were just three lawsuits waiting to happen I guess...

[@mr.battle20]

Mel Gibson as Solid Snake, Tom Berenger as Gray Fox, Danny DeVito as Yozev Norden, Dolph Lundgren as George Kasler... Pretty much the entire cast was modeled after celebrities.

[@emperorleachy6435]

@@mr.battle20 Yozev Norden is Bob Hoskins

[@mr.battle20]

@@emperorleachy6435 Hmm, according to a Google search, you're right. Doesn't look a thing like Hoskins though. Looks much more like Danny DeVito. I'm wondering if the article got it wrong. Oh, thought of another one. Colonel Campbell looked like Richard Crenna (Col. Trautman from the Rambo films).

[@xLeRock]

I’m glad they’ve replaced all faces with Shinkawa style. Looks more appropriate within the entire Metal Gear saga

[@Cringe_Username]

it's scary to think what metal gear (the series) would have been without shinkawa 😢

[@fancypants3800]

Man, these videos are severely underrated and deserve way more publicity than they get.

[@fdsbot]

16:40 it's so weird to see Snake being told that he's right on time as usual, with the whole "Kept you waiting, huh?" from future games

[@GSG-io8zp]

That was more big boss I guess

[@groovysnake6664]

Snake started saying the line after he had retired and gotten older, that's the joke.

[@jamesbrincefield9879]

The first two Metal Gear games are way ahead of their time. I first experienced it with Ghost Babel as a kid and then went back and played the others through emulation years later. It was crazy how much you could do and how deep the story and mechanics were in a time where most games basically only allowed you to run and jump. It blew my mind just as much as Metal Gear Solid did when it first released. I can’t imagine the kind of impression the old games would have left on me if I had played them at release instead of 10+ years later.

[@gertytk5528]

This game was just so much ahead of it's time. And the soundtrack is just awesome.

[@reloadpsi]

It still cracks me up that Big Boss, who defeated The Fury, was ultimately defeated by his son rummaging around his toolshed to build a ghetto flamethrower.

[@mywifesboyfriend5741]

Turns out hairspray and lighters were the weapon to surpass Metal Gear.

[@spudmeister9566]

Big Boss was taken down by his mullet care products

[@AndyKazama2]

Konami: once a powerhouse of the video industry with important R&D. Now a fallen great. Kojima was there for it all.

[@FordzyS]

I am Czech and these Czech dialogs really makes sense(not perfect), but its impressive for Japanese developer.

[@P1R4T3DDY]

Thank you so much for these videos about the first two Metal Gear and the works behind them! I started playing this saga 7 years ago when a friend of mine discovered that I never played a Metal Gear game before. He lent me everything from consoles to games :) He made me start from the very first one on MSX2 and I enjoyed the whole saga a lot. More than I thought I would! (despite the retcons, plot holes, etc..) Every time I see videos about the Metal Gear saga, they always neglect the first two games or barely speak about them, but they are equally important and lay the foundations to all the other games and to the whole story as well.

[@tyo101]

Perfect foil for my viewing this evening, thanks, Futurasound.

[@cmreinhart1987]

I never grew up with PC gaming but MG2 is easily one of my favorite games of all time, the intro, the story, and gameplay got me hooked even as a casual playing in late 2000s

[@paulwalker5225]

My Snake becomes Solid everytime Futurasound Productions uploads

[@ItsDeebs]

I love the MG2 story and recognize the masterpiece that this game is. But I wasn't able to get into it. I tried to play it about 7 years ago, but couldn't do it. So I just read the story and watched review videos. With this being the longest and most in depth.

[@treyshoes8828]

Yeah I know what you mean. It has some of the most ridiculous situations of the series and the absurd amount of backtracking is almost a deal breaker. But if you can muster through those things you will be rewarded with a great experience and it gives a great glimpse into what Kojima would ultimately accomplish with Metal Gear Solid.

[@Apathesis0]

This game is essential. One of the first ROMs I downloaded. Fantastic soundtrack.

[@MrFacepunch33]

I would love to see a continuation of your What Happened in Death Stranding video!

[@Sniperk1ng187]

Awesome video! There's a certain magic to these first 2 Metal Gear's that i adore. Side note, Kojima shoulda absolutely kept that gorgeous afro he had in the 80s

[@MarlonAnthony]

God that MG2 soundtrack is pure 80's action movie greatness. This game was ahead of it's time yet timeless!

[@jamesbrincefield9879]

This video didn’t even feel like a quarter of its length.

[@reyvilla6994]

In the early days of exploring Emulators and ROMs,this game was my first stop

[@Gatorade69]

Same. When I learned that the good version of Metal Gear was on the MSX and that it had a sequel I just had to try it. I feel like Metal Gear Solid is basically this game but in 3d.

[@reyvilla6994]

@@Gatorade69 I hear they were Remastering MG Solid. I'm sure you played the original but did you ever play it on GameCube as the TwinSnakes Remaster?

[@Gatorade69]

@@reyvilla6994 Nope I had MGS on both PSX and PC (which introduced first person aiming but it was kinda jank). Never had a GameCube unfortunately. Always wanted to play it though I hear they took some liberties and some scenes are a bit more outlandish. Is it a remaster or remake ? Let's hope it's good as I know Konami doesn't really give a damn about video games anymore.

[@reyvilla6994]

@@Gatorade69 yep some cutscenes had alot of slow motion flips. I didn't mind it tho because after Mgs4 it was nice to control a young Snake at his Prime so all the Flipping and bullet dodging that people criticized kinda made sense to me. So you're a PC guy then?

[@Gatorade69]

@@reyvilla6994 Was a PC guy. I have a PS4 right now but I'm picking up a work PC here soon that can probably handle the Dolphin GameCube emulator pretty well so I'll have to try out Twin Snakes.

[@dibs0equiped]

I have played this. It was on the hd collection. It was impossible to beat without a walkthrough, but it was fun.

[@arx3516]

The first 2 games for MSX need to be remade.

[@mr.battle20]

The original Metal Gear Solid was practically a remake of this game, at least in function.

[@ofs82]

@@mr.battle20 well, a gazillion of the functions and characters at least. The control tower run, the previous character/ally returning as a ninja opponent, the actual Metal Gear being the third last event of a boss rush, the backtracking, the changing temperature of an item for different uses, Meryl being a composite of Gustava and Holly, the chasing the female guard into the restroom...

[@cpt.roosto2097]

Another great work of art, sir. Keep it up! I love the way these are made and put together, like big budget high quality documentaries.

[@mph8er]

Really enjoyed this game when it came out on the PS2 with Subsistence. It was the first time I played the original as well as this. It was so incredible to see the transition from Metal Gear 1 to 2 to Solid as it felt like a very organic transition and it's very easy to see how natural the transition to 3D was. Games like this began the transition of games to art, with intricate stories. The only issue I had with it was the Oilix plotline basically disappearing in the other games.

[@o8thnaspliff]

I gotta jump back in to HD collection and play this masterpiece.

[@JellothePallascat]

This is my favourite game of the series. Snake says Calgary on it. My home town… yes I am that petty

[@shophet125]

48:28 I'm reminded a bit of Huey Emmerich, another scientist who turned out to be a horrible traitor.

[@shirolee]

You did such an amazing job putting this video together! Thank you!

[@djcochran12]

I love how specific a taste these videos reflect

[@quironmiranda2591]

I absolutely love this game definitely one of my favorite in the metal gear franchise

[@QuellicheilMarza]

In a parallel universe, Snatcher is the dominant clone

[@eddy3080]

Your longer videos always help me pass the time while driving (trucker). 👍

[@ChrisDoesTV]

Best video on some of the most underrated best games in the series

[@mywifesboyfriend5741]

I really enjoyed playing MG2. Too bad so many haven't played this one, as it ties in closely with the events of MGS. If you get a chance to play this, do so! You won't be disappointed. 😊

[@xLeRock]

True. Most folks must be afraid of being bored of an old game like this but it’s a masterpiece.

[@yellowcard8100]

There's a typo in the quote in the first 19 seconds. It says "Metal Gear Solid 2 : Solid Snake".

[@iamajustababa2000s]

Brug😊

[@CoffeePotato]

I'd love to see how you'd cover the Ogre Battle series with a lot of the same stuff. I know it's unlikely, but it's got a lot on common here, from being a series of anti war war games, to creative mechanical weirdness, to writing far beyond it's respective mediums. All while most of it is 100% optional.

[@dcj991]

So glad someone it talking about this. Metal gear 2 did what mgs 1 did for most people for me

[@Alex_Logan22]

I’d like to hear your take on how subsequent Big Boss games affect your interpretation of the MSX games and his journey in them, going from very straightforward on release to extremely vague by later entries.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Big Boss hasn’t been a straightforward character since MG2. His goal was to create a nation where soldiers wouldn’t be used and abused by their governments, which leads him to desire a world plunged into perpetual warfare. The prequels don’t really change this; they just show how Big Boss arrived at those conclusions. The Patriots’ global control would’ve been in the way of his objective of global chaos, hence why he opposed them.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@ForceWave-1139 Uh, except that literally was never the motivating factor behind Outer Heaven or their conflict with Zero/Patriots. At least not in the games. Also, the initial war mongering Big Boss was definitely 2 dimensional/straightforward, but in Peace Walker he's actively opposed/against being put in that position, even in TPP when craving revenge, it never dictated his decisions. He's always against him or his army being a part of unnecessary war. He never instigates any conflicts, only responds to them. If we are to take the events of MG2 verbatim as a game taking place after Peace Walker/MGSV, than he would have to be putting on an act.

[@diegoidepersia]

@@Alex_Logan22 there is also the possibility Venom was the one in Metal Gear 2, possibly surviving 1

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@diegoidepersia Sure, but it would then leave a hole in the series for how he became a burnt corpse in MGS4 (before the Solidus switcheroo).

[@diegoidepersia]

@@Alex_Logan22 yeah i didnt consider that but thematically it works a bit better

[@oneupdawg]

I freakin love the OST for Metal Gear 2. It has such a 90s futuristic dark vibe to it.

[@torloni13]

I've finished it in my orignal MSX2, in 1991!!! The save game was in 360kb 3.1/2 diskette. SD Snatcher was one of the best games I've ever played.

[@XenonG]

Those orphans in MG2, did they become the Drebins?

[@maxacorn]

you know something? i didn't think about that. it would've been about 10-15 years between zanzabar land and MGS4. so.........i can see the drebins being orphans from ZL.

[@XenonG]

@@maxacorn The Drebin Snake met did say to his face directly, that they are "neither enemy not friend".

[@maxacorn]

@@XenonG yep and the orphans weren't considered enemies in the game nor were they friends to him.

[@beaverbee8958]

@@maxacorn drebins were found to be the same DNA as solidus..

[@the21stsergeant]

Well this is just.. mesmerising. So in-depth. I thought I'd played this game back in 2006 when they released Subsistence.. maybe I did, but I feel like now I should truly experience it as an adult and absorb this title's multiple deep layers.

[@brandbusters183]

Man I can't wait for a Breakdown like this for Metal Gear Solid I.

[@farmer5001]

These videos are always so good; thank you for all the work you do!

[@dunbar91]

I’ve just stumbled across your channel, this content is absolutely brilliant and your passion for MGS is amazing to see, keep it up pal 💪

[@ofs82]

Holly White might just be the most badass female character in franchise history (apart from The Boss of course). You bust her out, she says 'cheers bud, I got stuff to do'. Then she goes and does it, you go through your whole mission, and she's gone and beaten every challenge she herself faces just as quickly as you. No frustrating escort mission stuff with Holly like with Meryl or Emma. That's with Gustava and Dr Madnar. She just gives you a card, and goes on about her work without asking for or needing your help.

[@lunar_arcus]

So grateful I got recommended your channel!

[@lebowskiunderachiever3591]

I knew this game was was supposed to be good . But wow 😲 , this looks amazing . This presentation is FANTASTIC , good job sir !

[@Dusky_pup]

I've watched so many metal gear videos from your channel that are outrageously long.... and I still always want more 😁

[@DerajDoh]

Great video essay! I never tire of your analysis of this series! Keep up the good work, Boss!

[@abdelali9279]

45:19 He said the thing!

[@christiankneupper7011]

Didn’t grow up with metal gear just stared going through the games last year. Decided to start with the MSX games first. 1 was a fun spy thriller sneak around save the world type game. 2 took what made 1 good and crank it to 11 better story deeper themes better characters. It’s amazing.

[@D348-p1y]

Such amazing content you always put out. 🙏🏻☀🙌🏻💯💪🏻🎉

[@unknownpleasures_nic]

1 hour presentation about metal gear, count me in!

[@caiocesar2162]

Great video, thank you for your amazing work !!!

[@everygametactics2235]

I'm about to boot this up again and play it. Thank you! 😁❤ I love your videos. I always watch them after work. Great way to escape.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

5:06 Wow, I haven't heard anyone except Stan Lee say "foibles"

[@KBXband]

The way that you kill Madnar is hilarious because while he chokes you from behind you have to lay mines down and walk on them. I think you can use remote missiles too. Id love to hear a codec convo about that between Snake and Otacon lmao

[@thewave-qz9lt]

your videos remind me alot of the channel splash wave who does videos with this style of editing very well done.

[@KBXband]

I love stuff like this. Makes me want t to make long form videos with retrospectives.

[@ramdom_assortment]

This game needs a 3D remake.

[@Apathesis0]

Only if the same soundtrack is used

[@mywifesboyfriend5741]

Indeed.

[@PirateCat822]

And if both Keither Sutherland and Richard Doyle play as Big Boss

[@djangofett4879]

@@PirateCat822 Kiefer never voiced big boss. ishmael was just a hallucination and ground zeroes was a VR mission being experienced by venom. any time you hear big boss speak in MGSV, it is through the perception of Venom and his own voice is what he hears.

[@reloadpsi]

This is easily my favourite MG game.

[@hvygear1]

I love this channel and I definitely love your work. Being a metal gear fanatic, I am enjoying all of your metal gear deep dives. Most likely will check out the vids with other subjects too. Keep up the amazing work!!

[@wadewilson1312]

Thanks for the Manual. I been looking for it recently. If you need to know there old manuals are there is a page on archive. Could you upload the English PDF there for preservation or may I?

[@gabrielrodriguez6936]

The HD edition of the xbox 360 ports for metal gear were on game pass a couple years back. I hadn't yet played the OG metal gear games, so I was very glad I got to them before it was removed. I've since dug out my ps3 to play them again.

[@SnakeNbake]

Solid work as always!

[@mXmVideos]

This channel is incredible. Well done.

[@pacocyborg]

Thank you for making this video series! classy and entretaining, really really good work!

[@pacotorres5968]

Yet again you surprise with your excellent analysis skills thanks man !

[@Beastplayer01]

My brother played the msx version on snake eater, really amazing games Hideo is a legend

[@sozaj]

So Konami tried to separate Kojima from Metal Gear as early as right after the first game! Makes too much sense.

[@flowrebaz6189]

I like the old snake graphic, he looks so confused all the time.

[@themanwithtwofirstnames2197]

This was a very good video. One of the best videos on the topic I’ve seen

[@NobesBLO13]

Zanzibar Land’s national anthem is We wish you a merry Christmas? Fuckin Kojima

[@mr.battle20]

I played it. I got the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 as part of the bonus disc for Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence. Good game, and much of what we see in the original Metal Gear Solid actually came from this game.

[@Rynhelms]

Another absolute UNIT of a video my man.

[@HereForTheComments]

I'm that guy looking for "Blank You Haven't Blank" titles and pointing that yes, I did blank that blank. I made sure not to touch Metal Gear Solid before I blanked both of the MSX Metal Gears.

[@JFinker73]

Great to see the Metal Gear MK II prototype @10:20.

[@caleballenson6025]

Excellent video! I’d just like to point out that Bob Hoskins and Tom Berenger were two of the Hollywood actors who’s likeness was used for mg2ss

[@EricFoster]

It's always a treat to see Mike Aruba.

[@xavierbelmont8935]

I'm pretty sure we've all played this if anyone has a PS2 or PS3 on PS2 you would have to have Metal Gear Solid 3 substance on PS3 you would have to have the Metal Gear Solid collection which has Metal Gear Solid 3 substance and when you play this on both of them you're playing the original MSX version of the game

[@capnjackgallows3204]

Now I would love to see a remake of this!!!

[@sytran666]

This was such a treat, thank you!

[@shinobifirecracker6671]

I am definitely intrigued. We only 17 seconds in

[@WhizKids49]

Love this game and honestly prefer it to MGS1

[@shaolinotter]

“he who experiences the joy and tension of the battlefield, will place himself on battlefields for the rest of his life”

[@futureskeletons66669]

As an MSX owner and former Konami fanboy, I liked to think that Snake was the Green Beret from Green Beret/Rush n'Attack.

[@JasonMontell2501]

Wow. Excellent work. You've got my subscription. Thank you