12 RVs that Will Change Your Camping Experience Forever // 2025 Florida RV Supershow

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Less Junk, More Journey

Less Junk, More Journey

Күн бұрын

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@bbjjbb61
@bbjjbb61 6 күн бұрын
Finally!!! Someone understood the size and need for a bathtub!! I was just commenting everywhere that a bathtub is needed.
@skeim5620
@skeim5620 6 күн бұрын
You guys nailed it.this is why rv people need to design
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 11 күн бұрын
It was SO GREAT to see you two after so long! Thanks for your kind words and for sharing our rig! -J&A
@gregormiller4037
@gregormiller4037 11 күн бұрын
Me of many, want and will probably get one. I'm 68, purrfect for my retirement!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
It was so perfect to meet up here - and see our two RVs - while similar offer so many different innovations from our years of living this crazy life. So glad we got to meet up again.
@angieharwell7865
@angieharwell7865 11 күн бұрын
Love love love the bath tub in the RV and the side deck is amazing!! I miss having a tub 🛀. I was hoping we put one in our 2021 Alliance paradigm.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
So many have said that - myself included!
@MattHayashi
@MattHayashi 8 күн бұрын
Wow! Everything is becoming residential! Awesome!
@TheJazsi1
@TheJazsi1 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for helping me expand my knowledge! Nice models you chose for reviewing! Continued safe travels out there!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
We are so glad you enjoyed it!
@LifeAfterKidsjourneyunknown
@LifeAfterKidsjourneyunknown Күн бұрын
WOWWW 😮 So many great ideas!! Still love our2003 31ft class c 🥰 🤙🏽Ruben&Lori🌺
@sherriweber7105
@sherriweber7105 10 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the tour of the RVs at the Rv Show. Very nice. I love yours and yours does look similar to Jason and Abby’s. I love them both. Great designs. Or should I say Grand Designs? lol! The 2 bedrooms I love. Destinations homes are nice too. Thank you again for the tour. Have a great week and weekend and safe travels.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Our pleasure! Thanks for coming along
@freedomontheloose
@freedomontheloose 10 күн бұрын
Great video and information! Thank you for sharing and safe travels!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for coming along
@tylerhopkins5690
@tylerhopkins5690 6 күн бұрын
Love the idea of your unit but my suggestion would be to make it triple axle so that all that storage can be used safely with a higher cargo capacity
@l3ware6
@l3ware6 11 күн бұрын
Excited for your RV to come out! I would suggest an outlet in the broom closet to charge a vacuum, and doing an L shaped couch.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
Yes! That's a great idea
@FrenchEros
@FrenchEros 12 күн бұрын
Good evening guys. I hope you’re doing great! Thank you for sharing. I’m Michel, the man who told you that you were the most beautiful people on KZbin at the meet up at the Florida RV show in Tampa. It was a great pleasure to see you in person. Please keep it up and I wish you continued success.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
It was awesome to meet you, Michel! We loved seeing you there!
@exploringrvdude7817
@exploringrvdude7817 12 күн бұрын
I really like that they're moving back to much lighter interiors. For a while it seemed the interiors were dark tones of grays and browns. I'm definitely a fan of the lighter color palettes.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Me too, it's so much brighter and more inviting.
@bettyjorodgers8552
@bettyjorodgers8552 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for viewing all the campers. Blessings
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
We tried our best to view as many as possible, there are just so many new RVs each year.
@femalism1715
@femalism1715 12 күн бұрын
WOW!!!! Your RV, with the tub, outdoor kitchen, and the kids' bunkroom, is the best!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Thank you! So glad you love it too!
@femalism1715
@femalism1715 12 күн бұрын
@@LessJunkMoreJourney People can appreciate the difference between an RV designed by RVers and one built by a manufacturer.! Family-designed RVS are a better combination of function and beauty!
@brettstewart4851
@brettstewart4851 3 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see version 2…waiting
@gregormiller4037
@gregormiller4037 11 күн бұрын
Seroius? Now i gotta get one!!...Lookin' forward to your expose' of the rigs you like to doe-rae-mi these bad boys!!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
So many amazing RV's and this was just the tip of the iceburg!
@JeffG-z1q
@JeffG-z1q 12 күн бұрын
We saw your new rv at lazy days rv resort. It was amazing. Great to meet you all really enjoyed the whole time. Can’t wait till next year. We are planning on a new rig next show. Jeff n Karen.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
So glad you loved it! Thank you so much for coming and hope you really enjoyed yourselves
@misspersnickety3674
@misspersnickety3674 12 күн бұрын
The destination trailers are like mini mobiles. Thanks for the rv tours. It was fun!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
I agree! It's a whole new way to live in an RV!
@TheOriginalPaulGilpin
@TheOriginalPaulGilpin 12 күн бұрын
My wife and I are empty-nesters and would love to hear/see more about the couples floor plans.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
There were so many new models this year, it was hard to show it all! The few brinkleys shared were couples models! That one with the sunporch was a couples model 😍
@jonesfamily9119
@jonesfamily9119 11 күн бұрын
I can't stop giggling... every rv Merissa walks in first thing she says "look at all the winduhs!" Love you guys!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
I really do love my windas!
@adriannurse1502
@adriannurse1502 10 күн бұрын
It's great seeing you guys back in the States again. 🙂
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Thank you! We do run our videos on a delay, but the Tampa Show we have to do current!
@mikeholczer
@mikeholczer 12 күн бұрын
I like the 414LJMJ, lifting the back for the storage underneath is a great choice. Have them test the bedroom and bunk room slides for sleeping/sitting use when they are closed.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
So glad you loved it too!
@HangWithTheBangs
@HangWithTheBangs 11 күн бұрын
when does the Grand Design Solitude 414LJMJ Prototype come out for sale? I want one! I love it! Dishwasher, bathtub, bunk room with table, dining table in the kitchen, lots of storage, pass through hamper (epic!) and broom storage! YES!! (is there by chance room for a plug in there for stick vacuum?) I love it all! I am sold! I do though love the idea of a L shape couch, that would be one thing to take it up a notch even more!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
You're in luck - there will be an L shaped couch in the second prototype - they just didn't have it in stock for this one.
@HangWithTheBangs
@HangWithTheBangs 9 күн бұрын
@@LessJunkMoreJourney wahoo! so exciting! Will they be making your guys model for sale? I would love to get on the waiting list to order one
@lakelili
@lakelili 12 күн бұрын
A friend just got excited because she could see the Brinkley G 3250 rear flex space with that awesome pass through as being set-uo for a kosher kitchen...
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Oh, that's interesting! I can see how you could utilize that space like that for so many different things.
@srameypr
@srameypr 12 күн бұрын
Too funny - I saw RV Miles' new video just before this one, and I thought, "Wait, that looks a lot like Nate and Marissa's!" It's nice to see much smarter use of space in these rigs. I do think there is potential to be smarter with smaller units, too, and I hope they try, for those of us in the market for smaller rigs. I can't believe how many beds some of these have! Oh, and I heard the whale! 😄 Cute touch!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
I am so glad you caught that whale! 😄
@hadfin
@hadfin 11 күн бұрын
For your ljmj design….how cool would that side deck be screened in!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
It would be SO nice! But I am not sure how you could do that...
@4simplelives
@4simplelives 12 күн бұрын
Great reviews! We loved checking out the LJMJ Prototype! I feel like I need a bath tub now 🤔
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Thank you! So glad you got to come check it out too!
@underdog2594
@underdog2594 12 күн бұрын
Nice design on your new RV! Very functional.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Thanks! I love the layout!
@RonSmith-kx6ut
@RonSmith-kx6ut 12 күн бұрын
Can’t wait till the Atlanta rv show next week. Got to go see those Brinkley’s.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Oh the Atlanta RV Show! Another good one!
@donnaharris4459
@donnaharris4459 11 күн бұрын
Super vlog, love viewing new RVs. LJMJ FOS❤❤❤🇬🇧
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for coming along with us!
@andreafreeborn7892
@andreafreeborn7892 10 күн бұрын
Any updates of your new Solitude? We actually made it to the show .. Only option was Sunday...and the Grand Design guy at Solitude didn't know what it was. So sad it was hiding somewhere! None the less, we made some great, very wet memories!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
We really wanted space at the show, but the way the lottery works, GD had a much smaller area this year. We had it over at Lazydays where we held an event. Keep an eye on our emails for updates and more behind the scene details. So sorry you missed it, but there is another opportunity this spring to see it in person.
@tobystowe8865
@tobystowe8865 12 күн бұрын
The LJMJ is amazing. Wish it could combine with the extra storage under the bed of the Brinkley. Think it would be great for our family. Wondering if a one ton non dually would work.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
I don't think it would work for the LJMJ, once we get it weighed unloaded, it's still going to be a heavy one!
@brucewallace3860
@brucewallace3860 11 күн бұрын
Excellent video! A couple of questions - - for those of us non-fulltimers: Is Starlink going to be a ‘required package’ - even for those of us who want to go out for 4-6 weeks and and avoid (or, limited) Internet/television? ALSO: Lots of electric RV news last year - seems as though none this year? Is industry looking to see how 2025 sales go before being more committed to electric options?
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
There are definitely other options for internet/tv aside from Starlink, they just know it's the most reliable when camping in the middle of nowhere to in the cities. As for the electric updates, I know the last few years the push has been solar with some electric changes, but you're right, this year there wasn't as much - it was more about design and layout changes.
@bettyruth9142
@bettyruth9142 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful RV’s !! 💙🩷🩷💙
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
They're soooo stunning!!!
@ACanadianRVereh
@ACanadianRVereh 12 күн бұрын
Hi Nathan and Marissa it’s amazing that you would start this with the grand design lineage I did the exact same video, but unfortunately I didn’t do it on media day and there might’ve been a few people in it but I think it’s a great RV. Great minds think alike. I also just posted a video of a Foretravel that is the most technically advanced motor coach in the world? Keep up the great videos sorry we missed you at the meet up
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
It's so cool that we had a similar idea, we loved so many of the new additions to the RV world this last week.
@jeffreyhanks551
@jeffreyhanks551 12 күн бұрын
Your new rig is amazing…. What is the dry weight and the maximum weight going to be? My rig that I have now is 20,000 and I use a Sport Chassis to pull it. So I’m nowhere maxed out as of yet.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
It's going to be a HEAVY one! We're thinking around 18k dry?
@jeffreyhanks551
@jeffreyhanks551 10 күн бұрын
@ are you going to use your Dually or will you be upgrading? I love my 2021 Sport Chassis Freightliner much more than my Chevy High Country dually. I feel much safer and I control verses the 5th wheel trying to drive the truck with the weight ratio difference. Happy Camping
@boosuspence
@boosuspence 12 күн бұрын
When will the 414LJMJ model be available for people to purchase? Y'all did an amazing job designing it!
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Thank you!! We really hope soon!!
@2Miles2Go
@2Miles2Go 12 күн бұрын
Love the Prototype y’all helped create. But that rear bath…. WHEN are the manufacturers going to do away with the shower walls with the useless soap ledge? I’m barely 5’ tall and it hits me just below my shoulder. So kid height haha, it’ll hit them head level and up. Tell me y’all told them no 😂
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Thank you!! Thanks for the feedback, we'll let you know how it goes for the kids.
@heatherjolly8389
@heatherjolly8389 12 күн бұрын
I love listening to Marissa talk about her windas' 🥰
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
haha! I caught myself on that too watching the video after. 😂
@heatherjolly8389
@heatherjolly8389 12 күн бұрын
@LessJunkMoreJourney We know what your priorities are!
@sheilacaine
@sheilacaine 11 күн бұрын
Pretty awesome. ❤
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
So glad you think so!
@lancemoffitt7531
@lancemoffitt7531 11 күн бұрын
Did you look at the Spacecraft RV
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
We did! It was massive! Just too many amazing RVs to show in one video
@eoneill3343
@eoneill3343 12 күн бұрын
How long is the Super C?…..and how long is the 414LJMJ? Marissa, you do a great job at being positive while describing different rigs. You could have easily been a talk show host. 🙌
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
haha thank you! Our rig is about 43ft long. The Super C I think was around 33-34ft long
@eoneill3343
@eoneill3343 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the speedy response! I hope to see you on the road someday!
@wendyrobertson-c6m
@wendyrobertson-c6m 12 күн бұрын
I would LOVE to see an RV that comes setup for wheelchair accessibility without paying several thousand dollars more for that need to be covered AND better construction than the flimsy junk thats put in when youre paying the price of a small house. Just something that you might convey to the builders
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
Winnebago has come out with more options, and different price points, but I agree, there should be more options in general. www.winnebago.com/models/motorhomes/accessibility-enhanced
@calledtojourney
@calledtojourney 12 күн бұрын
Good grief, the amount of basement storage you're going to have is CRAZY!! Nathan, are you going to start a construction or automotive business or something?!? 😂
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
He might just have too!
@kimwilkins1500
@kimwilkins1500 12 күн бұрын
I was in line at the ladies room at the Tampa RV Show with you Marissa when you were in a hurry to get to your Meet & Greet, we took a selfie. Your perfume was on my arm the rest of the day and I fell in love with it. Any way you share what you wear? Love you guys!
@roydavis2242
@roydavis2242 12 күн бұрын
I have been thinking about building a pad with power, sewer, and water there and put a destination RV on it to use as a guest house. Since it's a RV, it isn't considered a structure so it wouldn't raise the property tax.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
Oh that's interesting! These destination campers really are blowing up the market right now - maybe that's why?
@averyream1196
@averyream1196 9 күн бұрын
I am watching HGTV right now!!! Lol😂😂
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Sure felt like it in some of these RVs!
@Bronco2Cj
@Bronco2Cj 12 күн бұрын
Lord have mercy.. this thing is amazing
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
They're sooooo stunning!!!
@Bronco2Cj
@Bronco2Cj 12 күн бұрын
@@LessJunkMoreJourney Indeed! I hope you guys make it to Tampa show 2026 since my jerk friend Bruce and his other half Amy met yall last year and rubbed it in!
@stumpgrinder13
@stumpgrinder13 18 сағат бұрын
If you're driving or towing your house around is it really camping?
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 4 сағат бұрын
Absolutely! The best kind in my opinion haha. I have the bug bites to prove it dry camping this week 😂
@marysoto5475
@marysoto5475 7 күн бұрын
Dónde y como comprar? Estoy en baja California México
@frankiehoosier9165
@frankiehoosier9165 12 күн бұрын
It's been a few years ago but when I drove a Super C the ride was horrendous !!! It was so bad that I definitely would not buy one. I wonder if it's been improved....I didn't hear any of that mentioned in this video. And............the price.........HOLY COW !!!!!! I can buy a very nice sticks and brick with an Airstream on the side for occasional adventures. Just sayin' 😊😊😊
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
It's very much for a specific buyer - but the beauty of it was amazing!
@gosman949
@gosman949 11 күн бұрын
More Class Cs and Bs please. The big ones are getting out of hand and unaffordable.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
Note taken! We'll share some more drivable options that are smaller.
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 12 күн бұрын
The designs keep getting better and better but the color combinations are horrible, white and gray are not my favorites. If there were some natural wood in those designs it would be really awesome. Keep the good stuff coming guys.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
With you there, I love the natural wood tones!
@weswilde
@weswilde 11 күн бұрын
So, it’s obvious y’all never served time in a Submarine, worrying about all the dang windows.. LOL😎
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
I guess I should add it to the Journey List! 😂😂
@lesleyclark3162
@lesleyclark3162 11 күн бұрын
The kitchen in your proto type is WAY to small. the entire living space compared to the Brinkley layouts is by far inferior to some of the other layouts, which provide much more living and family space than the SolitudeLJMJ design. It may work for your family but the overall layouts of almost ALL the other models you shared were far superior than this one. Most folks want ample living inside for entertaining and living space. The deck is nice but many others have nice decks and still have better use of great space inside. Not a fan of the new layout at all. But loved you showing us all the new options, The Brinkley by far has my vote for best interior and layout design, The G3250 can hardly be beat IMO. that one was stunning..
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your feedback! Our biggest goal was to stay at 43ft vs going longer - the other models are longer and have more space for that reason. These layouts are all so amazing and they all have such great pluses (and minuses) for each.
@jodiplock4784
@jodiplock4784 11 күн бұрын
I would definitely want a L-shaped couch in the solitude
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
There will be one - they just didn't have it ready with the prototype
@TheRdwyer
@TheRdwyer 10 күн бұрын
I don't think you need a larger window in the bathroom, you always need storage, leave that medicine cabinet alone. please.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback 😊
@rvcruising
@rvcruising 12 күн бұрын
So after years of people saying even the S2RV chassis is not a “proper” Super C (commercial truck chassis), now this is being called a “Super C”? Why not just call it something else?
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
I'm not sure! But we sure thought it was pretty!
@rvcruising
@rvcruising 12 күн бұрын
@@LessJunkMoreJourneyI think it’s a great unit! But I don’t think they are doing it, or “proper Super Cs” any favors calling it a Super C as it dilutes the Super C class, and this unit doesn’t compare to a “proper” Super C (check out the Renegades, for example). They are different beasts, so it seems it would be better to give it its own class or name. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Btw, Jayco and Entegra have done the same thing: they have one of these 4x4 Cs and have given it the same model/series name as their S2RV chassis series.🤷🏻‍♀️
@dereklesniak6238
@dereklesniak6238 12 күн бұрын
Love the new rv but do you have to close the deck every time it rains
@jimrodda
@jimrodda 11 күн бұрын
It amazes me that you Americans are obsessed with the TV, I thought the idea of buying a camper, RV or 5th wheel etc was to travel, not sit and watch a TV.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 11 күн бұрын
It's very different when we live in it full time, not every day is an explore all over and travel day.
@concreteguyjd
@concreteguyjd 12 күн бұрын
When you get older, you'll understand why most RVs don't have bathtubs.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
haha fair enough 😊😊
@francesohman7314
@francesohman7314 10 күн бұрын
Sounds like you mean to say that as an older person without small children, you do not want your rv to have a bathtub.
@JaynRaetravels
@JaynRaetravels 10 күн бұрын
I dont understand that at all. I am older and I love a tub. Think it just depends on the older person.
@tinbarnranch
@tinbarnranch 12 күн бұрын
I think the destination trailers will be a hit because of all the natural disasters currently going on. Many RVers who are ready to "hang up the keys" will take this route in RV resorts. While all the new designs are fantastic (mostly because the mfg's are finally asking RVers who use them for their input) the industry is in need of quality workmanship and standing behind their products. Way too many horror stories from buyers with serious build issues and not getting taken care of. Until serious changes take place in the RV industry I will not be buying ANY new RV's. The industry is great in marketing propaganda but fails miserably in quality and customer service.
@LessJunkMoreJourney
@LessJunkMoreJourney 12 күн бұрын
I wish there was a way to get service taken care of like a car dealership - that if they sell GD, they service GD (without the waits). But I'm not sure how that would get enacted. It's changing, with more demand and more push back, change has to happen and will happen.
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