LESSON with TOUR Ball Striking GURU in California | MORE TURN, SHORTER SWING, BETTER STRIKE

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[@andrewf9991]

This is the type of instructor I love to hear from. He's played and won at the highest level. He's seen the world's best ball strikers in the flesh, he's heard the sound of contact. He's seen what works at the highest level and is kind enough to share this knowledge from his home

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

More with John this year

[@samanthagames1023]

This guy is great. He's got loads of sensible ideas that I've never heard from anywhere else before.

[@dmpt39]

Moe Norman always setup the club some distance behind the ball. He explained that this set the right shoulder turn back and also aided lateral move forward in the down swing

[@mikebarnard2689]

It is so refreshing to see a different take on golf tuition. It almost to a simpleton like me is that addressing the back /ghost ball means that the sternum is then facing the end of the low point. I’ve used the preset drill for 20yr and never achieved a better strike or a better feeing of balanced release, by that I mean proper rotation and able to stand tall on left leg after impact facing target. Seeing this video esp the small segment at the end is thrilling to me as I always felt a weirdo incorporating the preset at right thigh ( 4:30 set) into my pre shot routine. Not any more... I’m liberated... thanks guys.

[@jimbarr4936]

Brandon and John, that tip on setting up like you are playing the back in the stance to get the full turn worked awesome with my driver. It helped with the other clubs with hitting more consistent down the middle. Can't wait to watch the next video.

[@amihanov]

I'm watching all these videos as soon as they come... Awesome stuff!! I'm becoming some kind of zombie. I thought I was tired of watching youtube golf videos.... but got sick again... Thanks Brendon!!! Can't wait for the next one!

[@jackhunt9364]

I just keep repeating myself about how darn interesting this series has been. Great information and looking forward to your next video.

[@peterthethird]

Thank you so much for sharing all of this great great not spoken about information. I’m a beginner golfer, I’m 5’5 and have been struggling with the conventional golf swing, I started watching videos of Ben hogan and then stumbled upon John and You. I’ve been implementing these things into my swing and have been seeing a real difference. Thank you so much!! No one talks about having a flat swing! there is the reason why the greats where such good ball strikers!

[@lagpressure]

Yep..

[@s.r.345]

OMG B. This is my swing I have developed this flatter shoulder turn thru the ball the orbit pull the hold finish the shorter back swing so this video series with John is GOLD for me Thanks

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

Thanks for watching! Leave a comment for John. He reads these.

[@rm00k]

Brandon, you really need to travel to Australia and visit a John Hensby who developed a swing called Channel Lock. It's based on a back ball position (off the right foot) and is designed to swing in to out to eliminate the pulls and misses left. Very similar to the lesson here only turning through the ball is not necessary. No conscious weight shift required either. So simple. Hogan can be complicated.

[@rm00k]

His KZbin channel is 1atomicgolf. Hundreds of vids.

[@TrevinoNo1]

Absolutely outstanding stuff with John. Opening a totally new view and understanding of the Hogan swing.

[@jtsutherland03]

Man I'm enjoying this series. Love the change and getting out of the robot mechanics. 💪 definitely an eye and ear opener.

[@KilbyDerek]

Wonderful. I have been waiting for this man's instruction for too long. Thanks to him and Be Better Golf

[@michaelwilson9817]

All of these vids with John are GOLD, keep them coming! Starting playing in the late 70,s with my no name brand clubs...still remember the feeling of those off centre hits...that's why golfers around my age (56) can still strike it ok.

[@nedgermany]

Finally something substantive. Fantastic stuff

[@daddyogolf]

Great video!!! Keep working my friend. Thanks for the quality golf instructional videos. I got say I can relate to this video with my own swing

[@TheLastBabyBoomer]

Wow...great stuff. I'm losing a bit of shoulder turn as well so this is a big help. I'll be drilling this over the week to get my shoulder turn back. Thanks. I'm glad knowledge like this is getting put out on the Internet for the masses to learn, experiment and improve. Thanks again.

[@maurice2014]

No weren't losing a bit of shoulder turn. As shown on the video, you simply just weren't turning your shoulders.

[@ANTPS32CREWCHIEF]

A few years ago I accidentally tried to lay up to a pond. I was 150 away from it and hit a 8 (140). I took the exact swing he is teaching and slowly accellerated and the ball exploded off my club and flew 165 into the water. Crazy Swing easy and live with the extra distance

[@neckupfitness3274]

Saw this again after watching some of Bradley Hughes videos.....I have had success with my ball striking since then, but when I did this technique on the range today....WOW!!! I got more turn AND hit it a ton farther and straighter! I have always liked to try "unconventional" methods....modern instructional golf is so plastic and generic. This was an eye opener in how the body actually responds and moves in the golf shot! Great video!

[@pauls3616]

Great video. Loved the way that ghost ball position created a bigger shoulder turn. I am going to try that tomorrow morning, Thanks for the video.

[@danielwenderlich3438]

Your swing result absolutely describe what I am doing? I keep adjusting to hold a square club face but if I don't roll my wrist over it feels like I am holding back the momentum of the club. I really enjoy Johns instruction and just started his on line program.

[@lagpressure]

Daniel, a year from now you will be a completely different player. We have had so many students drop 10 handicap shots within a year or two. It's just like anything else... you have to work at it. We are not a band aid instruction site. We teach the great time proven fundamentals of the finest hitters of a golf ball.... and map it out in a very simple and orderly program which still allows for great personal freedom for style and customization.

[@billygraham5589]

That sounds like good advice for a fully rotational type swinger. I’m a hands and arms guy. I do get my hands up. But by keeping my back to the target a bit longer and knowing I need to get the hands and clubhead moving down and forward early in the downswing it all works out. I do think the Hogan approach works though.

[@chasingsilvergolf]

Master Class videos from Brendon and John, thanks fellas!

[@guitar1950]

Keep these coming! The ball position reminds me of Mo Norman's setup and also what Marcus Bell Zen golf teaches about setup and ball position.

[@lagpressure]

Glad to hear other instructors are catching on...

[@ScottSanderz19]

I never thought delaying my rotation until what “feels like” P6 would be very powerful, but I was wrong and ball flight is now straight to slight fade vs my OTT pull

[@mrkipling3841]

At last the lesson video. I think I need to see the next video for this to sink in. Its certainly got my interest. What did you make of it, B?

[@James_Vaughn]

Makes a ton of sense to me. I'm a natural upright swinger myself, and my miss is a pull to a nasty pull hook. I've worked for years on a much more shallow, inside approach, using various methods. Anything that gets me to that shallow, inside approach allows me to hit shots that are way above my pay grade.

[@lagpressure]

If done correctly... you really can't swing too flat. Mickey Wright also said this.

[@ocat1979]

Knudson had a huge lateral shift forwards, saving all that sweet shoulder turn to unload through the ball. Great stuff here guys 👌

[@lagpressure]

@Roenie Accuracy first.. .distance second if you are interested in playing golf well.

[@cameronlawoffices898]

Knudson was very coiled and very steep but some of the best rhythm ever. I looped in the 50’s and 60’s. Was in his group many times. Great striker. Very poor vision impacted his putting.

[@7777mantle]

John, That’s a great way to get more shoulder turn especially for senior golfers. Would you suggest setting the club in the back position when you to playing or just for practice. Thanks

[@benjaminhogan3157]

I think this is why Moe Norman set up his club way behind the ball playing.

[@7777mantle]

@@benjaminhogan3157 I think Moe started putting club behind ball when he was involved in Natural Golf. Just wanted to get John’s opinion If he thought that u you should do this all of the time or just as a feel when practicing

[@ironsideeve2955]

Wheres the next one?!!?!?!?! Thank you for sharing btw :-)

[@Ryglado]

These videos are great.

[@dannyrushing392]

Great info I think we need to see it in motion a bit better .

[@ranmangolf]

John, when you initiate the downswing are you using your arms as the engine to power the swing and then use the pivot in addition to arm swing late in the swing (P5/6) to square the club and increase swing speed which causes more shaft flexion?

[@ryanbordman954]

I have never wrote a comment on any KZbin channel this is my 1st. I’ve watched a lot of golf instructors on KZbin. Milo I like a lot. But this is different and something I can actually do with little thought during the swing. The 1 question I have is do you play the ball back and adjust your shoulders accordingly or do you play it in what would be a normal ball position and set your club 4 or 5 inches back something Like Moe Norman used to do? Hoping to get some clarification in your next video. Thanks

[@mikerichardson5022]

Love the way he burst out laughing when you topped one :-)

[@mitchy7051]

Hi John - your instruction is so clear, concise and accurate as proven by the top players on Gears. i know you are a proponent of flatter lies, just wondering how much should i consider droop in the shaft at impact? or should i focus more on having a flatter setup and swing?

[@lagpressure]

I use very stiff shafts.. have zero interest in toe droop. Very slight.. I don't want to be feeling that. I put extremely stiff "pole" shaft in my drivers for this exact reason. Flatter on the downswing is what you want.. set up... not as important. We don't hit the ball on the backswing.

[@steveregotti8542]

Very cool stuff thanks

[@gregwilliams2066]

when you address that ghost ball with your club, do you adjust any of your body position too, or just set the club a foot or so back?

[@henrymonster9926]

John, question about practicing this. I have been thinking about moving my ball position back, to help promote more turn, does that necessarily eventually require flatter lies?

[@scottbarker21]

Great stuff.

[@MichaelWilliams-qw8yd]

Brandon in that first minute you just described my ball flight pattern... I'd better listen up to this...

[@tomnelson8515]

John, that move the ball back, hit from inside and hold off. . . How close to Trevino's swing is that?

[@JB-jkhb1972]

The non line up concept is very interesting 👍👍👍 there is a lot of stuff the traditional mainstream won’t like 😂 the backswing concept reminds me of moe Norman’s set up

[@lagpressure]

What I am explaining is actually pretty traditional... 50's 60's... mainstream is usually driven by latest and greatest.. but not improving golfers as anticipated. In the 1950's you had the greatest striker Ben Hogan starting a club company and personally designing the clubs. Now you have a non golfer in a white lab coat telling you what to do. Who are you going to believe? I'll go with Hogan any day.

[@JB-jkhb1972]

@@lagpressure thanks for the response. Looking forward to your coming videos 👍

[@Murf1802]

Great job guys I love differnt thoughts and differnt ideas to trick the brain lol, it's like your feels in the golf swing, really love the.way your thinking but to stack and tilt for me, my swing is much more upright i feel more powerful and athletic idk just my thought, your feels are nothing like it looks on film not even close, but like Tiger said when. you get the feels and what you see on film to mesh ,it's pure Magic ,who knows maybe one day I'll feel that lol, Anyway love a thinking man on the golf swing, enjoy!! Best of luck,

[@lagpressure]

It's the intentions that are most important. An exaggerated intention that flattens the shaft 2 degrees is worth the time spent on such "intention".

[@Murf1802]

Thank you John,

[@cookiegolf5962]

Hi John Loving this series of videos. Can you please explain why offset is not desirable in the clubs you would recommend.

[@lagpressure]

Off set is a nightmare for good golf swings. It's purpose is to delay the closing of the face for OTT hackers. Hurts the good players because it forces them to throw the right arm at the ball to close the face or come OTT themselves to square it up. No offset keeps the clubface in sync with the pivot rotation. Offset throws it out of sync and requires often hazardous manipulations

[@cookiegolf5962]

@@lagpressure Thanks for the reply. Am now on the hunt for a set of forged irons with zero offset!

[@leifstrong]

Excellent !

[@johnmeade9521]

I would like to hear John E's thoughts on what I think is the "one thing" that separates and is uniquely "Hogan" about Mr. Hogan's swing. That is the post impact extension of the torso, the pelvic thrust and his ability to maintain the straight line of the right arm and shaft until the clubhead is nearly above his right shoulder. I often ask myself if this was an "effect" of his preimpact and post impact actions or a deliberate effort on his part. It is very very difficult to emulate and maintain balance; especially if the plane the shaft is on remains tilted to the left and does not shoot up skyward.

[@lagpressure]

Fastest left shoulder from P4 to PV5... (finish). No one better. Wish I could do it.

[@johnmeade9521]

​@@lagpressure Do you think he consciously worked on the left shoulder moving left fast?

[@lagpressure]

@@johnmeade9521 I would think so... not sure that would just happen by accident. Seemed he was still doing that well into his 70's. Most of the great golfers as they age start to stall their pivot post impact. I think you need to be aware of that motor and keep it oiled up as the decades pass.

[@joecalvacca3195]

That’s great info for the young flexible golfer but a senior golfer who doesn’t have flexibility and can’t rotate what does that golfer do? Thanks

[@09Youba]

Great information. So many golfers have tried to swing Like Mr. Hogan.

[@gzman1]

well rotate left shoulder flat and hard compared to the vertical shoulders of Joaquin Neiman and Tommy Fleetwood, gonna have to try both, off to the range

[@johndonohoe3778]

A question for John. Didn’t Hogan adjust his ball position by moving his feet? In essence to adjust his low point for each club? Interesting in what your telling Brandon.

[@wayneriley7367]

So cares about hogan, Nicklaus, Trevino? Interesting- most people said Trevino was the best ball striker but do people want to swing like him? Same thing with Moe, accurate as heck, but no one says I want to swing like that. Same for hogan, he practiced and knew his body and how he thought. Heck, Faldo now says don’t practice so much on the range. The key is to get the club face back square while the right hand is ‘releasing’ figure out that and you don’t need hogan or Haney or these others. John here is giving us an idea of how some of us may do it.

[@lagpressure]

From my view of Hogan, he moved his feet open or closed depending upon the intensity of the shot ... closed for more shoulder rotation on backswing... open on shorter irons for more emphasis on post impact exit protocols.

[@johndonohoe3778]

@@lagpressure Count Yogi, swinger or hitter?

[@johndonohoe3778]

@@lagpressure i like the fact that your having us see the shot and in a sense feel the shot. Don’t you think that Hogan or Snead or anyone of the great players just hit shots by instinct. Intuition. After hitting thousands of balls you at some point must trust your swing. There are swing mechanics that allow you to hit inside out with a lateral movement towards the ball. And a complete shoulder turn. The swing is called channel lock, named by its developer, John Hensby in Australia. I believe it had some of the same elements of your ideas. Only less stress on the body. Check KZbin site 1atomicgolf. Thanks John. Love your passion.

[@lagpressure]

@1DCCX I would agree, and like Knudson said.. "every good golfer has a unique alignment" and "the head is not the center of the swing" I would say a taller player would have to have their head moving around more like the tip of a tree moving in the wind.. taller tree, more movement.

[@freebiebean]

This is really genius and astute. I appreciate the hogan fundamentals approach.

[@rossgerry8231]

Love this info! Reminds me of Moe Normans address position, eh!

[@spacefieldtime]

this dude is good!!!

[@TedInoue]

Amazing series of insightful videos. Really enjoying them. I just have to make sure I don't try doing this on course tomorrow, lol. But it will be really interesting on the range. Question for John - is the flatter lie just for the longer clubs or do you recommend doing this for all clubs? Wedges, in particular are so short that, I think, playing a flat lie would be really challenging.

[@lagpressure]

Especially flatten the short irons.. Trevino said he felt confident going up against Jack Nicklaus because Jack's wedges were so much more upright than Lee's. Jack would miss long left a lot more often than Lee would.. so Lee would have uphill right to left putts more often.. Jack often missed short irons long left leaving more difficult downhill left to right putts. This slight advantage would show up over the course of four rounds. We want to put everything we can in our favor.. odds.. statistics... probability... like a good poker player.

[@TedInoue]

@@lagpressure thanks for sharing. That's fascinating and mirrors my experience. My approach game with wedges is pretty good but my miss is to over draw them. Really interesting stuff.

[@patrickbigras5232]

A lot of moving parts in this swing. Is it sustainable?

[@countfloyd1269]

interesting stuff.

[@johnjasinski4216]

sam byrd

[@jjinak396]

Love the BBG shirt!!!!!

[@freowho9974]

Anything that gets us thinking is good to watch. Looks to me like Hogan or Moe vs Snead. Turning vs tipping. Dr Kwon is suggesting tipping like Snead. John is turning like Hogan. Both went alright didn't they? I would think there is a natural inclination towards one or the other depending on your personal biomechanics and what the hips want to do. I agree that golf needs to get rid of the alignment stick. Best way to handicap a new golfer is say their toe line has to be parallel to the target line.

[@mitchy7051]

That's why most pros are a 10 degrees open at address with shoulder hips and feet. Simple reason we hold the club with right hand lower pls if you set up slightly open you can take the club back straighter which creates momentum and save some turn from the torso to get a fuller turn.

[@markbaldeck1513]

Absolutely right the target exists in your mind …. Think steph curry off balance everything,,no dogma

[@lagpressure]

@@markbaldeck1513 No alignment sticks on the court for Steph. Take three steps back and it's all net. Go Warriors!

[@robynhopkyns6150]

awesome

[@johnhardacre9030]

Moe Norman set up and lateral movement ?

[@tonybarber420]

Were moes clubs bent flat at all? Is there a link to having his shaft on the same plane as his arms at address

[@tonybarber420]

Also do you know todd graves, john?

[@casTingcall07]

Sure looks like Mo’s set up and swing!

[@ggmorris71]

From Dr Kwon to this. Love the valley between the two. Only issue is the lack of evidence based performance with the guru. What elite or pro player doesn’t repeat their setup? Doesn’t mean he can’t execute these unique moves. Clearly given his talent, and level he played. But aligning all the galaxies with the flux capacitor is tough for most players.

[@dagreatstoney.5869]

Top top stuff 👍

[@WorldwidebirdiesGC]

I think if we add a couple more tasks to the motion it’ll be even better 🤣

[@maeu59]

Don’t the lines on the deck make it a little confusing for alignment? and after awhile hitting off that hard surface cannot be good for the wrists.

[@lagpressure]

Lines on the deck mean nothing. I don't believe setting up square to lines on the ground that go from the ball to the target. It's only one of many options. In golf, we can curve the ball in the air.. so all bets are off... regarding square to square set ups.

[@joecalvacca3195]

Really how complicated can u make the swing?

[@Koboltgolf]

question : when I raise leadheel (slightly) in the backswing, my shoulder turn gets better. Is this similar to the feel of starting the backswing from a imaginary further-back-ball position?

[@lagpressure]

There would be a correlation.. yes.

[@travisy2772]

Also allowing the left knee to fold to the right knee gives you more range and opportunity to post back to the left when swinging back towards the ball. I believe it helps you to sit and stabilize as well.

[@lagpressure]

@@travisy2772 Very much so...

[@travisy2772]

Thank you John, I’m not into keeping trade secrets but I sure wouldn’t have a problem selling it! Thanks for the acknowledgment. I’m actually very interested in the group you’re forming. I’m also local if that scores me any street cred! Thanks!

[@theskillanalyst]

Swing plane is key. The more shallow your swing plane - the more consistent you’ll be in terms of contact and direction.

[@nedgermany]

One thing that concerns me about flattening out my irons….what happens when I go to a hybrid or three wood or driver? Those can’t be bent flat so seems like you would not be able to swing the woods with same technique. I’m probably missing something

[@admiraltamalak7559]

Good point. As far as I know only PXG woods and hybrids allows for 3 degrees flat adjustment from standard in their hosels.

[@travisy2772]

The irons happen at a 45 degree angle and the woods/ driver happen at a 60 degree angle therefore flattening the swing automatically.

[@nedgermany]

@@travisy2772 thank you!

[@travisy2772]

My pleasure!

[@brendaporter457]

interesting! Mo Norman always started his swing by having the club a foot or two behind the ball at address.

[@BlackjackCZ]

This is a really interesting video. It seems like to get that big shoulder turn that John is talking about that you would need to allow the head to move off the ball quite a bit?

[@MichaelShinosky]

Correct. Look at Hogan Knudson Moe and even Tiger Scott Rory. All move head laterally back.

[@lagpressure]

Don't move your head and come off the ball unless you want to win back to back US Opens like Curtis Strange did. Knudson was correct when he said "The Head Goes Where it Goes... the head is NOT the center of the swing". Narrow stances help keep the head still, but the head is a non issue in the golf swing. Wide stances open up the great advantage of initiation with a lower body lateral move to save pivot rotation. Those who disagree are disagreeing with Ben Hogan... I wouldn't do that.

[@michaelmurray8295]

Moe's looked like he was addressing ball on an arc 12" behind his actual ball. Similar to this drill.

[@lagpressure]

Well... I knew Moe, and he showed this to me... so right from the horses mouth actually. Moe was a true ball striking genius...

[@michaelmurray8295]

@@lagpressure Just goes to show. I remember being ribbed by a couple playing partners in the 90s for having a flat backswing. I shouldn't have listened.

[@yooper9062]

I was literally going to comment this same thing. Moe always put his club inches behind the ball at address.

[@yooper9062]

@@michaelmurray8295 And Moe added pre-tilt at address so who his body was always in a good striking position.

[@teddythodo3302]

Moe norman addressed a ghost ball all the time!

[@BEBETTERGOLF]

True

[@shmeme8971]

The second ball position is the same idea as what Moe Norman said he did with the coin 22 inches behind the ball and tried to tap it with his club. You can also see Ben hogan look at a point to aim for near his back foot before he took his back swing. These days they tell people to make a turn on top of the ball which is why it’s so easy to come over the top, the great were turning away from the ball not on top of it.

[@lagpressure]

So true from what I have seen most other's teaching...

[@gzman1]

It doesn't seem moe moved his shoulders at all, just left arm across the chest yes?

[@shmeme8971]

@@gzman1 he turned his shoulders. You can find overhead videos of him swinging on KZbin.

[@lagpressure]

One thing I am seeing over and over is younger players taking the club back outside, and I am pretty sure it's because they are setting up their cameras elevated and above their baseline or planeline..... therefore... for the clubshaft to appear onplane visually through the camera eye, they actually have to start the clubhead way outside to accommodate for the camera positioning. It might look good "on camera" but ironically it's very off plane and then requires an unnecessary manipulation of sorts.

[@lagpressure]

@@gzman1 Moe did move his shoulders to turn, but not as much as other players because he pre set a lot of that turn at address... however, they still moved into a full turn... especially when he was younger.

[@cjlawrence6867]

Watching your journey has been so interesting.....both John and his partner Bradley Hughes @ ABS are a wealth of info for those of us who seek high level ball striking skills. In my humble opinion if you work hard to implement what John is teaching you your skill level is about to take a hyper jump,,,,,,good bye hand flip save and hello real compression and ball control Thx so much for all your effort

[@ngascoigne]

Absolutely, takes lots of hard work. Us ABS students do thousands of reps of all the drills. You don't improve your golf just watching videos.

[@cjlawrence6867]

@@ngascoigne Hard work that I find most enjoyable ......because the results are fantastic and very repeatable

[@joecalvacca3195]

That’s great but show a senior with a 44 waist to try and do that

[@frankmakosky2481]

Didn't Moe Norman use that technique because he always started his backswing from well behind the ball?

[@lagpressure]

yes

[@tiptopsaidhe]

"Every slide becomes a turn." Gregg McHatton

[@kusler67]

This is a Moe Norman setup. He setup "2 feet into his backswing". Makes you have crazy width automatically. Very interesting.

[@lagpressure]

Moe showed this to me directly. I listened very carefully to Moe... and for good reason. Blessed to have spent a lot of time with him.

[@kusler67]

​@@lagpressure Smart to listen intently to a man who hit as many balls as Moe did. Blessed indeed!

[@chuckross8839]

Where are you going to find Clubs 6 degree flat ?

[@mitchy7051]

If they are cast and crappy forged no you won't able to bend them. But Endo ones easy 11 deg

[@markbaldeck1513]

Go on eBay find a set of forged irons for about 100-250 bucks go to golf shop have them bend them flat or just go to play it again find a random forged 5 iron bend it flat goof around with it That’s what I’m going to do

[@SaintKimbo]

@@forrestgardener8906 There is a video in this series explaining the benefits of flattening the shaft, It's not a matter of having your impact analysed, it's changing your swing to accommodate the flatter shaft because physics demonstrates that a flatter shaft puts you in a position where it is almost impossible to hook or pull to any great degree.

[@lagpressure]

@@forrestgardener8906 Better to develop your swing from proper gear that puts you at an advantage over others who don't understand the benefits.

[@lagpressure]

@@markbaldeck1513 You don't want offset either. A very problematic concept people are not aware of. (offset)

[@golfinnewengland8256]

Got to give you credit Brendon as you could have asked to hit a 5 iron instead.

[@lagpressure]

Brendon has a very good golf swing. He can handle a 1iron.

[@johnswanson4266]

Always enjoy the videos but I was just wondering if you ever feel overloaded with golf instruction? Like to see a video of instruction for a real hacker like me!😉

[@lagpressure]

Being a beginner can be a good thing. Learn things the right way from the start. Good habits are just as hard to break as bad habits.

[@travisy2772]

Some of the most important advice a beginning golfer can have. Lessons will accelerate your rate of improvement not equipment. A great teacher is priceless. I concur!

[@chriswillis7154]

Moe Norman!

[@robertlogan6379]

Set up shades of Moe Norman

[@frozendivots1564]

You’re worried about missing the ball, going over it. You want that intention. Just keep leverage and all is good.

[@ScratchArkkitehti]

That would be hell on my wrists and elbows lol. Regardless ....tons of onions here.

[@johnjasinski4216]

these ideas are from the balata ball era.

[@ericzellershow]

Watch this video and fixed my swing. But also got vertigo.

[@harryleake5287]

Has to be an Ipe deck to take that much punishment. Iron Wood Rules.

[@mikerichardson5022]

"Who's that guy who steps back and forward?" :-)

[@guitar1950]

Dr. Kwon. Step drills and rope drill

[@benjaminhogan3157]

Is this why Moe Norman had his club so far behind the ball?

[@rangepro]

Why do you think MOE NORMAN did what he did? HE already put himself in the back swing with a bigger shoulder turn!!

[@lagpressure]

I listened very carefully to Moe when I spent time with him. Moe was one of the great strikers.. and Moe did this on every shot.

[@markbaldeck1513]

Wow That’s cool 😎 it even makes perfect sense. I have been fighting a hook for 25 years since after college stupid upright swing idiots fit me upright 6’5 guy. Clearly wide low and flats where it’s at. Old forged clubs here i come baby … thanks Let you know how it goes

[@lagpressure]

At 6/5 you should be fine with 3 degrees flat.. .or even 4. If you bend your knees more to lower your center of gravity, you could even go lower.. but I would start at 3 or 4 down.

[@markbaldeck1513]

Thanks John

[@bushidonation7835]

The majority of the best and longest ball strikers are rotational and more "steep" in the backswing... Plenty of ways to do it

[@keviniwankow8294]

It's comedy hour

[@CaribSurfKing1]

Get this guy a golfmat… FFS

[@marcuskingstanley9522]

i look forward to the day when teachers address the millions of contradictions in this game and try to explain why that is

[@lagpressure]

When teachers stop being dismissive of the great hitters for a variety of reasons.