Lessons in Magecraft 20 - Divine Constructs

This series goes over the lore behind the magic system in Fate, Type Moon, and the Nasuverse at large. Our 20th Lesson in Magecraft covers Divine Constructs, weapons forged by the gods and the planet itself.
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[@otakudaikun]

What is your favorite god in the nasuverse? Why?

[@ron2millionare972]

Ereshkigal because she is cute and helpful.

[@hydrasfang]

Although Heracles has carried me through most of not all the FGO I've played so far, I'd have to go with Amaterasu, Tamamo Cat, OG Tamamo Caster and her Lancer Summer form. But I also like Medusa in all her forms including her final form of Gorgon. The reason why I've chosen the Tamamo's, Amaterasu, Medusa's, and Gorgon is because there's something about them that I really like but I really don't know how to explain it. I mean I can somewhat sympathize with Medusa and her back story as well as understanding to some degree what Tamamo went through but something about the more pure and bestial nature of Tamamo Cat and Gorgon I really like maybe because I like animals. I'm really not sure how to describe my feelings for and about them any other way.

[@reinouth9345]

Quetzalcoatl, the attack on tiamat was just dope

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

I'd have to go with either kama parvati amaterasu or goddess rhongomyniad

[@cedricsommerscave]

Ana (Medusa) and Ereshikigal...

[@jimmyjeff1777]

Honestly the nasuverse take on the gods is probably the most fascinating I've seen in fiction

[@devilknight358]

Considering that the Greek gods are actually mechanical aliens then yeah truly one of a kind

[@bloodhunter07]

@@devilknight358 and the Mesoamerican one's are actually sentient alien bacteria who arrived on earth before the dinosaurs got extinct

[@rogueascendant6611]

Most other gods to this multiverse are created from concept and not a living being that most other animes and stories followed.

[@fenrir_Lokison9]

@@devilknight358 The lostbelt versions. The pan human greek gods are not robots, at least to my knowledge.

[@devilknight358]

@@fenrir_Lokison9 they are they really are. Its just that in the pan human history version they lost against the alien while in the lostbelt they won

[@darkshado124]

Then you get into Conceptual Contructs. Items or weapons born from taking an aspect of existence or in some cases Akasha itself, and imbue it into an object. These items, when utilized properly, can surpass Divine Constructs depending on the Concept they possess, but unlike Divine Constructs, they can be made by mortal man using both science and magecraft. I'm looking at you Black Barrel. Then there are Divine Conceptual Weapons, which is a combination of both Divine Constructs and Conceptual Weapons, which are the strongest out of either. Excalibur, the Longinus, Ea, are considered the three strongest in the Nasuverse. Ea and Excalibur are self-explanatory, but the Longinus is said to possess the concept of "Able to pierce through anything and everything," from its myth of piercing through the flesh of Christ, which includes space, time, immortality, divinity, dimensions, other concepts, etc, with its Divine Power being the ability to "Decide the Fate/Destiny of the wielder and the pierced," which came from the legend of how Jesus decided the Fate of humanity when he forgave us of all our sins when he died on the cross. Now imagine the Black Barrel empowered by Ea, The Longinus, and Excalibur. Ea, which destroys worlds, The Longinus which Decides Fate and cannot be blocked by anything, and Excalibur, the manifestation of all of Humanity's Hopes and Dreams. The Sheer level of brokenness I've come up with is truly frightening.

[@afggetlost1342]

Longinus and black barrel are the same

[@afggetlost1342]

The conceptual construct black barrel your talking about is not the real black barrel but a replica of it

[@darkshado124]

@@afggetlost1342 The Black Barrel Replica is the weaker, mass-produced version of the Black Barrel. Both are conceptual weapons created by Atlas Academy for the sole purpose of killing Ultimate Ones. Both possess the Concept of "Imposing the Concept of Limited Life-span," upon the individual who was struck. typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Barrel The Longinus was the Spear wielded by the Roman soldier Longinus from the Bible. And that spear became a Divine Construct by absorbing the Divine Essence of Christ and a Conceptual Weapon from its myths and legends. typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Lucius_Longinus Now, I'm not calling you dumb or anything, but one quick wiki search on the Type-Moon Wiki will show you that both are two different weapons. Honestly, please do some research. It's annoying to read something that clearly had no thought whatsoever put into it.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes1319]

Why thank u for this i love learning i already new about ea and excalibur and a bit on longinus (the spear of destiny) always happy to leaen more you are truly amazing i always find i argue with peopke who say ea is not that strong or thats its weak when its one of the strongest its good to know that there are people like u who exist

[@phitthawatinthavong8401]

Huh. A surprisingly well made explanation. Kudos for doing the nasuverse some justice. But no seriously the black barrel is bloody busted that thing takes down fucking TYPEs

[@r.d.9623]

Artoria's Excalibur also have 13 seals. They just don't need to called like Arthur's she can just wish them to unsealed when right conditions are meet. It was mentioned in garden of Avalon and Artoria's interlude from fgo

[@sou_r]

In Arthur's case he actually reached out to the Knights in the throne to undo them while Artoria doesn't need to they are more automated. all the weapons can still release a blast even with just half the seals undone ie Excalibur(s)/Rhongo(s). Tho Protocalibur was more restrictive about it i think.

[@randomdude1077]

@@jkosch Arthur's Excalibur is still more powerful since it's an EX ranked NP when some of the seals are released unlike Artoria's which is just a A++ ranked NP

[@sou_r]

it's not as clear cut as that artoria has to my account not yet actually been able to release all the seals Arthur did do that that one time. also the EX rank's whole stish is it's really hard to put on a scale like i ask you to pick a number between 1 to 5 and you pick like 7.9 or something but numbers don't exist past 5 here. A++ is still technically out of the scale but it only goes out on certain conditions the gap between A++ and EX can be a needle's worth or just one more box to click. Both of the swords are Excalibur in the end and there be no better choice of armament for their intended purpose.

[@ronglurak9892]

Anouther thing about EX rank is that it can simply be that the heroic spirit in question has some unique take on the skill like madness enhancement EX on Nightingale.

[@allanvinicius7458]

If i remember correctly: Artoria's Excalibur exists to protect humanity. While Arthur's excalibur exists to protect the planet.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

I've learned a lot about certain Noble Phantasms. I've always had a headcannon about Excalibur Morgan. As Artoria is altered thanks to the weapon she holds, ie Lancer vs. Saber, and since you said Excalibur can be corrupted, my headcannon that Morgan corrupted Excalibur so Artoria would become the edgy queen her alter portrays. Excalibur Vivian is another headcannon altogether.

[@Akiro367]

divine constructs in fate are just amazing to learn about and the power behind them erasing thing from realty looking forward to the next lesson

[@ron2millionare972]

I think you forgot to explain Avalon.

[@otakudaikun]

I've covered it quite a bit in other vids.

[@Ohimeshinso]

I feel like mentioning that Muramasa was able to reproduce a Divine Construct shouldn't have been overlooked. In your lesson about True Magic, you mentioned how Kojirou's Noble Phantasm, Medea's Magecraft, and Kiritsugu's Time Alter all came close to True Magic. So the fact that a man was able to reproduce a Divine Construct seems like it would've been worth, at least, mentioning. And while I realize this is somewhat unrelated, it does (kinda) tie in to the whole divine them. But it's that Gilgamesh probably likes Muramasa because, while Muramasa is arguably a "Counterfeit", he still proved Gilgamesh right in the sense that a Human was able to encroach upon the Realm of Gods by reproducing a Sword of the Gods. And if a Man can reproduce a Divine Construct, who's to say that Gods are really even necessary?

[@allanvinicius7458]

Without gods these things would not exist in the first place.

[@Ohimeshinso]

@@allanvinicius7458 False. Excalibur was made by Fairies using human wishes as materials, Gods had no part in its creation.

[@xenon9891]

Tbh, In Nasuverse I'd go with Either Scathach-Skadi or World's souls's great mothers like Morgan le Fay. Morgan Le fay's story in Losbelt is just fantastically done, and the history of Morgan from Arthur reign is amazing as well. And not to mention how beautiful she is, cough cough that part aside, overall she's quite a nice and interesting character. Love her and do I even have to mention about Scathach-Skadi? Who doesn't love her lol. And Arcuied as well, she's the true ancestor after all.

[@myliege8197]

I am so excited for your next video on Types!

[@johantank5631]

My favourite nasuverse god gotta be herc (if you count him) he earned that position, also he saved me in so many cq in fgo

[@NekoKat.]

I'd have to say my favorite god(s) would be a tie between Medusa and Ershkigal. Both made the best of the extremely short and shitty stick they were given. Though there is one that I think is the most important deity in all the nassuvers though he never makes an appearance in any material that I'm aware of and that would be the supreme Creator himself Nassu without whom we would not have this awesome universe to enjoy.

[@godzefkiel2686]

Medusa isn’t a god

[@NekoKat.]

@@godzefkiel2686 She sure is as are her sisters Uriale and Steno. Mind you they are weak af but they are still devine spirits

[@tonyinfinite5174]

I'm so glad you covered this Otaku kun a shit load of fate fans tried to convince me that Gae bolg and Caladbolg was divine construct because they tried convince me that Shirou can trace them. When the major reason Shirou can't trace Excalibur is cause it's a divine construct really thanks for the vid Otaku daikun

[@rahterminator1596]

But, he did trace Excalibur Morgan in the normal ending of Fate Stay night Heaven's Feel VN

[@tonyinfinite5174]

@@rahterminator1596 He had ARCHERS Arm a servant circuit and Mana it doesn't count. That's like watching a football game and seeing an athlete with a bionic arm and watching him throw five football yards and we're claiming the Athlete did it forgetting the bionic

[@Awesome_Pichu]

I think it was the only true Divine Construct Shirou could trace was Avalon since he had it for many years

[@rahterminator1596]

@@tonyinfinite5174 But, Archer is basically Shirou with a high quality magic circuits. Which means that he did have a potential to traced a Divine Construct like Excalibur. But, then again, the mystery behind whether Shirou able to traced Divine Constructs or not is rather ambigue, in the material book Nasu claimed that Divine Constructs are impossible to be replicate by the Unlimited Blade Works, however in the VN and other fate series where Shirou or EMIYA are features in, it was hinted that they actually have the capabilities to replicate Divine Constructs although the result would be imperfect at best.

[@tonyinfinite5174]

@@rahterminator1596 Ah that I can clear up the confusion you see Fate/night Archer Cannot however Fate/Extra Archer absolutely can because he's stronger than OG Emiya as the Data book came out after stay/night Nasu wanted to finalize the lore bits.

[@thenoblesolo4965]

thanks daikun for today's lesson

[@chalo3427]

I love these videos so much you literally have no idea the nasuverse is amazing overall so thank you for making all of these

[@otakudaikun]

Glad you like them!

[@BloodrealmX]

Hephaestus, as Vulcan, also crafted Saber Astolfo's Noble Phantasm "Vulcano Caligorante: Fortuitous Netting". Its original purpose was essentially the same as Enkidu: a net capable of capturing gods, specifically Mercury (Hermes) and Venus (Aphrodite), and used by a Saber it manifests as a whip-sword to ensnare opponents. I'm not sure TYPE-MOON thought out the potential ramifications of giving it to him as a Noble Phantasm! Since it was designed to work on Mercury and Venus (and be able to get them both _at the same time),_ that means that Saber Astolfo could defeat Quetzalcoatl and Ishtar, as both are associated with the planet Venus (Aphrodite/Venus was even based on Inanna/Ishtar to begin with, mythologically speaking).

[@jonatassilva2605]

Prety much. Althou I can see him dying in the process as that would mean using a divine constuct to it's limit with out an ounce of divinity yourself. We've seen characters dying for less.

[@gaminggod9244]

One thing I'm curious about is could the grim reaper's scythe manifest as a divine construct because I know that the grim reaper and his scythe isn't connected to any mythology

[@phoenixhubbard8745]

That sounds interesting.

[@ninjabreadman8166]

*HAPPY ORT NOISES*

[@hugolalej]

Ahhhh I really love lesson in Magecraft it makes me feel like I am in the clock tower

[@katlafae9487]

I love your videos I was always fan of the nasuverse and learned a lot more about it. Which you make very easy to understand thank you. Though my favorite work of nasu is Kara no kyoukai it, so beautiful. Well beside fate/kaleid liner Prisma illya lol I'm sucker for the magical girl genre only the ones who actually have a story.

[@ivanbluecool]

Ea is still the best one especially how in zero it's presented or ccc with how it just destorys anyone with max damage and deals death just in case. That's amazing. Honestly the down side is the weapons can come with ret cons to move the plot along or force plot armor like Excalibur where it kills hercules mutiple times and never again to anyone else before or after or lb 5 some weapons do the same thing as nasu had to explain stuff later on to justify beating hercules. Gilgamesh side if he used any more special weapon all the routes would end immediately even without EA Not sure on other divine constructs most just seem like more durable weapons with enhancements

[@aaidenmoore8628]

That is best explanation for divine constructs

[@ivanbluecool]

@@aaidenmoore8628 thank you. Honestly I could go More into the fate cast alone with cu having gae bolg and gilgamesh having cus dad's spear in the anime and Shishou as cu has the death power in it while the other two don't. Medea rule breaker is a simple direct Power that nullified magic and all Magical contracts in it as well. Emiya makes copies which drop the value of the weapons he makes by a rank or two but it still can use the special powers it has like rule breaker and Excalibur even Avalon depending showing that it's not just a one for one person can use the special power as Shirou just projected it having power to make what's in his mind. Enkidu is a living divine construct as he can make weapons from whatever on the earth he wants and that's why he is on par with gilgamesh who has all of humanties weapons in his gate already Zero wise we have dirimud with 2 and lancleot who makes weapons from anything he touches

[@aaidenmoore8628]

@@ivanbluecool yeah it’s kinda just people trying to make archer cooler just like how in extra he can trace Excalibur in unlimited blade works

[@ivanbluecool]

@@aaidenmoore8628 archer is cool but not in the way people think. He is stronger as an archer as he one shots saber when he uses his brain in hollow ataraxia and somehow both Shirou and emiya don't take Medusa seriously and get up close to her as she is weaker than everyone else aside Hassan and kojurou which then gets them hurt. Fsn he did take more lives himself than the crew combined as he used his brain. Basically while not powerful physically he is powerful playing the field if he actually remembered he was an archer more often to just snipe people. Tracing Excalibur rule breaker and 9 lives aside caleborge and Rios alias shield is basically how well he can adapt to situations to win or tie battles which is basically a win anyways too. I mean in the war he can easily take out saber kojurou Hassan Medea and Medusa if he actually just shot them from a distance as broken phantasms do more nuke damage because they are set to break. Hercules can't be beat by him or Shirou and nasu said that too. Cu can and does beat him twice and gilgamesh is always better than him if he actually tried.

[@randomdude1077]

@@ivanbluecool you forgot that when emiya and shirou trace a weapon from their enemies that they also have the ability to copy they're skills and abilities(like mana burst) so thats another bonus to being able to use projection the same way emiya does , i really want to see him as a caster , assassin and berserker since shirou EMIYA has an aptitude to be in those classes , imagine caster EMIYA , getting a huge amp in his clairvoyance and projection magecraft, that sounds dope asf

[@savoivkovic4197]

Lessons in Magecraft is a wery interesting and informative seris thank mam.

[@madambutterfly1997]

Wouldn’t Tamamo’s count as a divine construct? She is an aspect of Amaterasu

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Yeah it does technically

[@tonyinfinite5174]

Her mirror eight folds of Amaterasu is a Divine Construct as well

[@sou_r]

technically maybe but it's more like a major being splitting into minor being without the major being loosing anything (like taking a bucketful of water out of the ocean / or substraction of 1 from infinite). it's more close to incarnation than construction.

[@aaidenmoore8628]

@@sou_r yeah and it’s not like you can really access it when you’re just a bunrei and a servant and not in the age of gods to truly use it it’s similar to EA it’s not as strong due to degradation of mystery so that why its d rank instead of anti world EX

[@aaidenmoore8628]

And unlike Gil I don’t think she used it in life when alive

[@aredjayc2858]

I liked the video, though the idea of Divine Constructs just being made by the planet is one of my least favorite in the Nasuverse due to it essentially being NPs without a wielders just being tossed out by the planet and hoping it ends well. When the Throne coulda just summoned a Counter Guardian or Servant instead

[@aaidenmoore8628]

@@Justic_ still don’t get how Morgan and Vivian are this split personality but I’m going to rack it up to fae bullshit

[@aaidenmoore8628]

@@Justic_ yeah i can get behind that

[@wolfynightwolf]

Amaterasu :D

[@giavanteevans4723]

Something tells me that Ig-Alima alone could have saved Gil a lot of trouble throughout the series.

[@BrianWilkersontheAuthor]

In a nutshell, divine construct is a mystic code created by a deity or the planet. Which mages also exploit when they can.

[@3dark7]

That first part reminded me of Persona.

[@Patrick-rh6rd]

I'm interested to see the full power of Protocalibur, it already seems to be on a different level from Artoria's Excalibur at partial power, I wonder what it would look like at full power 🤔

[@otakudaikun]

Maybe one day they'll actually develop it.

[@BrunofanofK]

Honestly, considering the true purpose of Excalibur and it's maximum power it is the closet with to a knightarm from Notes. ProtoExcalibur isn't stronger than main Saber, both have restrictions that ensure their max power can only be used after being satisfied, as Saber fgo interlude explain. The diference is that Mains saber restrictions are more permanent but once lifted forever dissipate while Protosaber has to unlock it in every battle as he is able. Plus this Alaya vs Gaia dicotomy is old lore from Tsukihime that is quite simple obsolete, since Garden of Avalon Merlin explained that humans have risen to the "Throne of Supremacy" and became the master especies of the planet, that is why Tsukihime timeline and fate are incompatible since in there Crimson Moon and his children and apostles serve the purpose of witness of the planet, allowing it to actualize itself. Servants can't be summoned in Tsukihime and Tru Ancestors receive no backup from the planet in fate timelines. Da Vinci-lili personal skill "Dream Up the Stars" start talking about the will that is passed along in the chain of life across the ages and ends it with a foreshadow about the "Age of Will" that Gilgamesh propesized: [This planet that has lived for billions of years is about to meet its end. To the children of this planet who was given only a few thousand years worth of evolution... Please place your final dream upon this dying star... A dream made at the end of their infancy, a small yet glittering dream...] This is hardly the action of a entity that see humanity as parazites and wish for their extinction in its last beath, chances are the two timelines diverted in the Decline of Sefar since humans gained Gaia's favor after the laying low the great destroyer while the old gods that failed started to lose standing and power.

[@whitefox3189]

This video made me realise that Gods are basically the same as Daemons. Also I think it would have been worth mentioning that Olympian Gods were extraterrestrials from another universe.

[@otakudaikun]

This pre-dates that a bit, but yeah.

[@cedricsommerscave]

To be honest i never questioned If Ea counts AS Divine Construct...

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

I mean theres no need to since we see how powerful it is

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

As far myth goes , I would say ea is something that can be forge but its blueprint ,material and processes that left unknown since tiamat who forge it .

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

@@someguywithabirdface2583 where is it ever said that tiamat forged it cause I dont see that anywhere

[@aaidenmoore8628]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA I think he misunderstood but Ea was made from the star of creation and Timat made genesis like creation of all life type deal Ea saw the truth which was primordial earth with no life so it reveals that when used

[@GHJ_AS]

One of the only classes I attend and not dose off. Lol

[@firefox1542]

I know I'm extremely late for this,but seeing this video now brings a theory to my mind,if we're looking in on Greek mythology,wouldn't pandora's box technically be a divine construct?. since it was (with pandora I think,might be mistaken) created by the greek gods?

[@otakudaikun]

I think so.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes1319]

I have no idea if u will see this @OtakuDaiKun but if at all possible could you make a video soluly for Ea the sword of rupture and go into detail about it if at all possible as i find i get into debaits about Ea and its power and i would love to know your understanding and take on it and use it as refrence for information

[@otakudaikun]

I appreciate the request but I don't really have much motive to do a video for a single weapon like that.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes1319]

@@otakudaikun aw ok I understand we’ll still love the lessons on mage craft I really enjoy it

[@albertoluis1544]

Is divine class itEM from OVERLORD can be called divine contruct

[@maroindefinitlyhuman6857]

"By a massive tip that can never be wielded by a human"

[@Dagowit]

1:50 I'm not sure if Counter Force came from Alaya, as we can see Gaia's Counter Force agent in Prisma Illya manga 8:28 also Prisma Illya 3rd season, Illya technically matched Enuma Elish

[@albertoluis1544]

Infinite power go brrrr

[@bluemoon9683]

I aint seen it but apparently gil wad half incarnated when blackened so we can assume it was not full power ea?

[@emangillespie]

Im not sure if this is true or not, you're welcome to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the one weapon that can stand up against Ea is Slash Emperor, a weapon welded by Ado Edem in the Notes novel.

[@gypsysprite4824]

in a 1v1 between Ado with Slash Emperor and Gilgamesh with Ea, getting past the difficulty of having an environment both can exist in, Ea will win out on account of how Slash Emperor works Slash Emperor changes it's size and power based on the size of the target, bigger targets making a bigger sword. so pretty much against most things that aren't TYPES, it's actually quite unimpressive, and Ado himself wasn't widely known in-universe until he OHKO'd a TYPE (i think it was jupiter?)

[@yujiandou4658]

@@gypsysprite4824 I thought it was based on their power? Or the grain in the case of the Types.

[@gypsysprite4824]

@@yujiandou4658 according to the wiki it's a physical size check, so yeh.

[@yujiandou4658]

@@gypsysprite4824 ok, guess Ea is the strongest then.

[@skychieftain]

Honestly, most EX ranked weapons can beat Ea in a clash. Ea at full power is slightly stronger than Artoria's sealed Excalibur. Which isn't all that great

[@partyrock4144]

Oh no are we gonna talk about the moon next? I thought we agreed to not talk about the moon

[@nepspartan-7597]

*Looks at South America* I wouldn't worry too much

[@user-rg7mv9yo7b]

What about Tsumukari Muramasa? It's a Divine Construct after all, man made as it is. With its concept of cutting karma and destiny, wouldn't it be able to avert the "truth" of Ea, and cleave even the blasts coming from the sword of rupture? And another question i've been wanting to ask, does Noble Phantasms have a hard limit of A+ rank or something? Since anything beyond A+ are almost exclusively Divine Constructs of some kind.

[@otakudaikun]

Didn't Muramasa make it tho?

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

This is sort of fringe frontier lore, but with Ibuki-douji it's now implied that Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi (the sword he's making a knockoff of) is kind of memetic. Ibuki notes that "there are as many Kusanagi as it has names", which when taken with Muramasa sacrificing infinite swords to make Tsumukari, seems to imply that replicas of Kusanagi can become the real deal. This is similar to its source, Orochi (Ibuki-daimyoujin), who has been shown to manifest as a fake of itself from anyone who carries its essence, be that lineage or by holding its curse. This makes sense, given the historical context of Kusanagi. As one of the Imperial Regalia of Japan, it's a ridiculously big deal - I'd be surprised if it wasn't a Divine Spirit in itself given its all-important nature as a shintai - and as such it has a lot of history. There are various, often contradictory accounts as to who had the sword at what time, how they got it, whether it's lost, how it was lost if it was... Personally, it seems to me like it was probably lost at Dan-no-Ura when the imperial family was wiped out and it fell into the ocean, but allegedly it miraculously washed up on the shore somewhere. The official line from the Japanese imperial family in the modern day is that they still have the original sword, but it's locked in a box and nobody is allowed to see it. In Nasuverse terms, this probably is interpreted as "we have a replica, and as far as Mystery is concerned it's the real thing".

[@bluemoon9683]

There is no need for multiple gods. They are unnecessary, defective and therefore evil. Mahapralaya! Basically pashupata on cracks. Thats the hidden divine construct you forgot to mention xD

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

Solus Prime would have a field day if She have seen these divine constructs. Then again the artifacts wielded by the 13 primes could be considered divine constructs

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Star saber vs excalibur?🤔

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

@saber 1616 I guess each artifact of the 13 primes has a counterpart in the Nasuverse, wonder what the nasuverse's version of Onyx Prime's Triptych mask is?

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

@saber 1616 True. And Alchemist Prime's Lenses would similar to Merlin and other servants who can see the future?

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

@saber 1616 How does Belial from the Ultraman series stack up to them before and after Atrocious as well as Tsukasa Kadoya aka Kamen Rider Decade?

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

@saber 1616Sure the other SCPs would be wiped out somehow 682 will adapt to them even if Tiamat uses her chaos tide 682 will just adapt to it.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

11:13 I'm still curious how they were able to get a Divine Spirit into a Class Card. The Servants original to Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero make sense because they're mortals who might have been given divine powers, but an actual god? Natsu is breaking rules again!

[@wojciechwerner8787]

This is Fate there is always loophole. I could say you how they did it but it would be manga spoiler for one of best plot twist in any fate series in my opinion.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

@@wojciechwerner8787 I hope they come out with more Prisma Eilia in animation already!

[@zxshadowxz]

The Class Cards supposedly work by temporarily summoning a servant into a human body, by that logic they essentially work by creating temporary Psuedo-Servants, so since we know the divine can be summoned using human vessels, the card does make sense if you don’t see it as “A card that contains a god” and instead as a “Magecraft that summons the Divine Spirit Thor into a human”

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@ren_suzugamori1427 They are making "Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya the Movie Licht - The Nameless Girl" wiki say that it will be out August 27, 2021(probably in theaters in Japan) From what I saw in trailer and my knowledge of manga answer to your question should be a in it. If you don't mind big spoiler I can tell you.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@zxshadowxz Nice theory but no. It was done differently.

[@coreytoews6148]

What about the Tsumugari Muramasa? Or is there not enough information on it.

[@otakudaikun]

Wasn't the whole point that Muramasa made it?

[@coreytoews6148]

I thought it was a divine construct. He made it and died because he didn't have divinity.

[@Tfbrave]

@@coreytoews6148 lets be a little more specific here- tsumugari muramasa is essentially muramasa attempting to recreate the Kusanagi no Tsurugi (which may or may not be a divine construct in it's own right) and his spirit origin in shimosa isnt strong enough to handle it- the same thing would probably happen if shiro would try to project Ea or Excalibur while retaining some of their raw power

[@heavengroly4588]

Do they work on Achilles heel

[@aaidenmoore8628]

Yes they work on amaranth of the brave it’s the only way people without divinity can harm him it deals damage according to the rank of it

[@nguyenucanh2588]

0:22 Where is this scene from?

[@otakudaikun]

Heaven's feel movie 2

[@Greennaris_Rater]

Dude, titan was named Sefar, isn't it? Altera is but a name of that titan's replica, whom it send on Earth

[@otakudaikun]

Yeah, more or less. She was given the name Altera from her experience on earth, but those memories went to Sefar in the Moon Cell.

[@Greennaris_Rater]

@@otakudaikun Oh, thx, I did not know the part about moon cell's Altera

[@samarius_art_and_games]

If I recall, It's actually Exaclibur Proto that requires at least seven members of the roundtable in order to activate it's full power. And remember, Percival would wield Laevatein if summoned as a Saber.

[@jaydensilla803]

um can you do a lesson on alchemy?

[@elijahjones9633]

Can’t help but wonder is Excalibur Galatine a divine construct my I wanna say yes but wanted to know if I am the only one

[@otakudaikun]

I'd say it is. It's the sister sword of Excalibur after all.

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Wonder if there are some divine constructs as strong as ea but that's unlikely

[@PurpleHeartE54]

Avalon managed to negate Enuma Elish if i recall.

[@clothar23]

@@PurpleHeartE54 Only Somewhat , Saber still took some damage after all. But yeah I would agree Avalon is the only thing that is even in the same ballpark.

[@goldenbrigain7031]

@@clothar23 which is some kind of B.S. if you ask me. In the sense that EA is really ridiculous for what it is. Avalon is basically ascension into paradise and can negate even true magic. EA said "fuck true magic, YOUR GOD SAYS DIE!" and managed to affect someone in the unblemished paradise. The level of crazy it takes to pull that off really does explain why Gil is so damn arrogant, even if it totally got to his head and he actually thought EA couldn't be at least somewhat deflected.

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

@@PurpleHeartE54 I'm talking more so in destructive power theres nothing that can by pass Avalon's defenses

[@captainvalourous6668]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA Maybe Proto Arthur's Excalibur since it was more powerful than Artoria's.

[@dragoon109]

wait there is one divine construct that is in use. The "joker" weapon. It inst impossible for others to use divine constructs. Hell emiya can, there just degraded.

[@fenrir_Lokison9]

To my knowledge, even with UBW, he can not create divine constructs. The excalibur he made in the movie UBW was a mistake. And the excalibur used during extella is because in the moon he can use certain futuristic materials, unique to the moon, to create a copy of a divine construct. I might be wrong of the exact explanation of extella, the point is because of the mooncell Emiya can duplicate a Divine construct.

[@lostonessoul5154]

So if I am to understand: if a god were to use......say a Rondel dagger with the ability to always hit true or hit a killing blow that would be a form of "Divine construct"?

[@otakudaikun]

What's a Rondel dagger?

[@friesforlife8120]

No I don’t think it would unfortunately.

[@friesforlife8120]

@@otakudaikun It’s a type of dagger from the Middle Ages used as a sidearm. Think of it as an assassin’s knife or a knight’s spare weapon in case of losing their sword

[@jesusalejandrogalavizherre3775]

Someone have an idea about who was the first user of excalibur, the one who defeat the white titan?

[@otakudaikun]

I don't recall it being specified.

[@captainvalourous6668]

My theory is that it was a mere human who first used the Excalibur to defeat the White Titan and that human will soon become the Ancestor of the Pendragon Family.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

I like to think (It is only theory) that it was Artoria Pendragon as Counter Guardian or Grand Saber. Why else Excalibur would be entrusted to her in life?

[@heishinigami]

@@wojciechwerner8787 Because the lady of the lake wanted to bang Merlin and Merlin was Artoria's teacher maybe? Hahaha sorry i couldn't help myself.

[@KuraiSeraphim]

@@heishinigami I think the Lady of the Lake made it pretty clear how much she didn't want to bang Merlin when he kept trying to get with her and she opted to instead seal him away in his tower in Avalon until the end of time.

[@Jc-tg4dk]

Is rule breaker a divine construct ?

[@albertoluis1544]

Conceptual weapon

[@otakudaikun]

Nope. It's a weapon born from Medea's duplicitous nature. Her legend manifest as a single object.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

If Photon Ray is prototype for every Divine Constructs than how Excalibur was able to perform better than it?

[@KuraiSeraphim]

Prototypes aren't necessarily better than what comes after; we just like the idea of that in fiction because finding something better and older is a lot easier to work into a plot as a macguffin than someone spending a long time building something new and better. Like so much else in high end Type Moon power brackets, it's less about something being stronger than it is about whether or not one force has a method of overcoming another, so Excalibur being the crystalization of human hope overcoming a sword of war is mostly playing out the "we want peace more than war" sentiment on an apocalyptic scale.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@KuraiSeraphim "Prototypes aren't necessarily better than what comes after" They are in Type Moon and that's what annoy me so much about Gilgamesh.

[@otakudaikun]

Not really. Pretty sure any NP can beat its prototype. Problem is that Gil has so many.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

@@otakudaikun It can beat it because even NP have FUNDAMENTAL weakness of every weapon. USER. If Gil were to fight Cu Chulainn only with Gae Bolg prototype he would lose even with superior weapon. Prototypes are stronger as a rule in this world. I agree that biggest strength of Gil is that he have perfect tool for almost any situation.

[@blackchase6732]

its created with a special concept eliminating threats it draws power based on threat

[@Bladecharge]

I wonder if fate has God in it and how it treats God as well.

[@nepspartan-7597]

Every god and goddess in the mythologies had their area of influence called Textures where they directly resided (how they got there varies, from the Mesopotamian deities coming from bacteria from a meteor and the Olympians having come as space ships that took humanoid form after they were weakened for example). God was most prevalent in the region surrounding Jerusalem until the human order became stronger, his direct influence fading away like the other mythological textures (although traces linger on in the church). King Solomon accelerated the rate of the Age of Gods (the time period where most deities and mythological beasts were recorded at their prime) decline by inventing Magecraft

[@Lemuel928]

Christ himself is also a Saber,Moses was a caster.

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

I thought Gaia was in charge of creating gods?

[@otakudaikun]

That's not correct.

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

@@otakudaikun What does Gaia do now then, I thought gods and phantasmal beasts were like the Ultimate Ones of earth?

[@albertoluis1544]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 beast of Gaia like fou and the others(if any) and with the power of "friendship" with type-moon, Gaia or Crimson moon can manifes in arcueid body(arc type- Earth)

[@otakudaikun]

@@ibukunanjorin9054 Gaia doesn't do a whole lot now, though it definitely presides over nature spirits, who generally oppose humanity. Gods are born from humanity, however.

[@ivanbluecool]

Video: about divine constructs Gilgamesh:so a video about me I see. Enkidu come check this out. Enkidu:aren't I a divine construct too? Gilgamesh:ZASSHU YOU FORGOT TO TITLE THIS VIDEO ABOUT ENKIDU siduri: why did mankind invent the internet?

[@kingkaiser95]

I now want an entire series on Gilgamesh, enkidu, and siduri just living in a modern metropolis

[@ivanbluecool]

@@kingkaiser95 gilgamesh is basically that in carnival and fgo carnival as siduri is there as well. Game wise Gil fest this year will have more siduri in It

[@Lemuel928]

More like,how did Professor Babbage created the first computer?

[@BloodrealmX]

@@Lemuel928 He didn't. The Analytical Engine was never physically constructed, only designed.

[@aminebachir3394]

Divine Constructs are overrated 🙈, how could humans build the Atlas Super weapons that are as powerful or better 😂

[@aaidenmoore8628]

Yeah that’s why I like atlas cold logical they can’t be the strongest but they can. Build the strongest

[@aaidenmoore8628]

But I guess it’s possible

[@aaidenmoore8628]

Considering muramasa

[@tonyinfinite5174]

You mean the 7 Taboos

[@Lemuel928]

You wanna know why Shirou constructs every sword?

[@madambutterfly1997]

Can we please not talk about EA. Gilgabunny’s cheap victory move that he’s too arrogant to use

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

To be the strongest you have to fight like the strongest 24/7 gil does not unfortunately

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@wrought-ironheroEMIYA If he used it against Dark Sakura he might’ve actually lasted longer than 10 seconds

[@ivanbluecool]

@@madambutterfly1997 Sakura and all of the planet would have been wiped away instantly if gilgamesh wasn't forced by plot armor to not do anything. EA in ubw just the wind almost killed Shirou I mean strange fake already proves it if not for enkidu and honestly sakura isn't special. That's angra as her powers she sucks at using

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

@@madambutterfly1997 he would've obliterated sakura entirely

[@BekindBekbek]

@@ivanbluecool I guess Sakura`s Imaginery Numbers is pretty good counter against all supernatural