Lessons in Magecraft 21 - Ultimate Ones

This series goes over the lore behind the magic system in Fate, Type Moon, and the Nasuverse at large. Our 21st Lesson in Magecraft covers Ultimate Ones, or Types, the strongest beings from the planets of our solar system.
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[@otakudaikun]

Would you want to see more development into Notes? If so, what would you most like to see?

[@wolfynightwolf]

Anything really, dont know much about it. Keep up the awesome work

[@Hecate6969]

Ever since I first heard of the types I've been very interested in them and would love to learn all I can, so this was a very fun episode!

[@brucebolyard681]

Anything really because this is the first time hearing about notes.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

YES! What happened after the battle? Is there a TYPE Sun? When do the other TYPEs appear in the dead world?

[@setsunakyuuki4369]

Sensei can you remind me where you got all these images from.

[@masterxl97]

You know how the Metal Gear franchise exists because Hideo Kojima is terrified of nukes? Well, Type-MOON exists because Nasu is terrified of the entire fucking Solar System.

[@PresidentFunnyValentine]

Huh, you know who else has fear influence most of his works? Too bad dude was a professional racist.

[@StandardBuster]

​@@PresidentFunnyValentinebrooo

[@jaimehuizar6727]

​@@PresidentFunnyValentine hp Lovecraft?

[@armandomendoza7371]

Ironic that in a world with mages, vampires, demons, spirit of famous heroes, and magical creatures, the most dangerous creatures are ALIENS

[@rogueascendant6611]

Obviously. The scope of the Nasuverse is mostly focused on Earth and its inhabitants petty struggles for supremacy. While those 'outside' is something beyond Earth can't never comprehend. It eludes to our real life struggle of understanding the Universe. We might think we know everything. Evidently not.

[@armandomendoza7371]

@@rogueascendant6611 I know but it's funny to think that while we are fighting eachother and all that shit some weird organic transformer is in a village chilling waiting until his homies come to kill *EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM*

[@lenleon3699]

@@armandomendoza7371 organic is not a proper term for all of them. Several of them are basically robots operating through organic terminal vessels (like a long-range puppeteer controlling a doll). Plus judging by how the nasuverse stories showcases Earth’s encounters with alien beings, most of the times the Planet basically finds a way to shrug off the attack, for example Excalibur being created by the planet as super weapon to destroy alien invaders. The only story where Nasu has shown aliens winning is the story where humanity itself killed the planet, and the aliens are basically here to kill humans in return.

[@armandomendoza7371]

@@lenleon3699 i meant ORT only since he is the only one we know and he IS an organic transformer, besides what does half your comment has to do with the joke i made?

[@majutsushisliceoflife]

With Earth's mana levels having diminished so much since the Age Of Gods, I can't help but wonder if any mages have thought of trying to tap into the power of the other planets to help them in their attempts to access The Swirl of The Root.

[@kierafurneaux3172]

"We're Unlikely to ever deal with it in our world" *Stares at Lostbelt 7*

[@ShinyAzzy]

Saber venus: Falls in love to the person that killed her* Arcuied: I see so you're a woman of culture as well

[@yunantheobserver6841]

Apparently the whole confusion of the ORT's designation came from a pun: ORT originally being thought to be from Mercury but actually being from the Oort cloud is a pun. Spider of Mercury (水星のクモ?) and cloud of comets (彗星の雲?) (referring to the Oort cloud) are both pronounced the same in Japanese, as "suisei no kumo". For years. We thought ORT is TYPE MERCURY...all because of translation misconceptions OUT OF A FUCKING PUN!!!

[@otakudaikun]

That's annoying. Kind of annoying we don't get a proper type mercury then.

[@mylem6234]

@@otakudaikun Yeah it’s a shame. Maybe when Nasu goes back to Notes he can maybe introduce it?

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

I was LOOKING for this comment! We even see this confirmed by fgo

[@DSXtreme09]

I thoughtvit was stated that ORT killed the ultimate one of mercury, thus becoming type: mercury

[@yunantheobserver6841]

@@DSXtreme09 I've been hearing this for some time now. Where have you find this cause I can't find it anywhere in internet that states it nor links or character materials that states so. Where in FGO is this stated?

[@otoshigami4465]

Gungod's design was the inspiration of Kiritsugu. Also we need Ado Edam side story.

[@brokenrequiem2716]

possible emiya?

[@Lemuel928]

Until Ado and Venus’s Rebirth to the Garden of Eden,the birth of Humanity’s Pan History.

[@Red-lw7xc]

sorry bro, there is no side story

[@sasorigarasu6062]

yeah, Gungod looks kinda like a mix of Kiritsugu and Young Kirei, while Type Venus's angel looks almost EXACTLY like Irisviel if she was a blonde.

[@Zorev32]

"I am the transcendent being with more knowledge and power than you can imagine... What would you like for dinner?"

[@Alpha.Phenix]

''A most transcendent sandwhich, more delicious than the human imagination can perceive... With cheese, if you will.''

[@nobody4y]

@@Alpha.Phenix The fallowing day - A man found dead with note in his hand saying "I can't live in this world after tasting the most perfect sandwich I ever had"

[@EbullientSMP]

Always one of the most interesting Nasuverse entries even if we'll never get much direct expansion. There's also a very similar world in the form of Tsuki no Sango, although that one is much more mysterious compared to Notes. It IS also worth nothing that the True Ancestors were not created in response to the defeat of Crimson Moon, they were created long before in order to control humanity's numbers.

[@mvalthegamer2450]

FGO's next lostbelt has ultimate ones

[@silvdrazero]

@@mvalthegamer2450 If you mean Lostbelt 7; I'm inclined to agree to the extent that Type-Mercury is going to be the most involved/likely. Primarily because, Type-Mercury's place of residence is in South America and that continent is the last Lostbelt standing after the end of the English Lostbelt. I somewhat doubt the other Ultimates would become involved, unless our brief encounter with the Alien God on Olympus had the Earth send out a call for help, and thus Venus and Mars to Pluto were deployed.

[@soulsemblance3163]

@@silvdrazero why specifically those 3?

[@silvdrazero]

@@soulsemblance3163 That was actually me attempting to say the other 7; poor wording and phrasing on my part. But I still stand by my opinion we'll likely be dealing with Type-Mercury alone, because going against all 8, would be the equivalent to going 8 rounds with a mortal Tiamat.

[@nepspartan-7597]

@@silvdrazero I wouldn't be surprised if the Alien God bleaching the Earth is like gagging Gaia so she can't call for help from the Types

[@thirdplanet4471]

Not gonna lie Gungod and Type Venus remind me of Kiritsugu and Eri. Also, l hear that in one of Nasu's earlier works (maybe DDD l can't remember which) there exist beings greater than ultimate ones.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

Type Venus also reminds me of Arcueid and her relationship with Shiki.

[@bluu151]

Dude it isn't part of Nasuverse

[@travisoliver6741]

Something that I've always found fascinating about that curious world of Notes, is Gaia's actions during it. Gaia didn't cry out for the extermination of humanity for destroying it, but rather it did not want humans to outlive it. It's honestly rather interesting, and honestly really screwed up. Also, now that I think of it, is it even possible for humans to travel to other planets? There seems to be an Ultimate One for every planet, possibly every dwarf planet (Type-Pluto), maybe every large enough moon (Type-Moon), and celestial regions (Type Oort-Cloud). It seems like you have to go through a whole process to be registered by Gaia (The Machine Gods had to become Spirits, Brunestud had to create True Ancestors), and we never see humans travel to other planets. The closest thing is in Tsuki no Sango, but apparently Tsukihime never happened.

[@keiken8263]

In the 7th Singularity, Gilga told Tiamat that there will always be a time when the child has to move away from his mother's embrace. And Tiamat should now rest in peace leaving alone her children to their freedom. By the same extension, can't we say that Gaia also wanted humans to perish with her cuz she didn't want her children(us) to leave her after her death?

[@vitoaditya1243]

Obviously there are many hint that the ultimate destiny of humanity in fate series is to leave earth and live among the star, Tiamat and Gaia oppose that future, they want human just as a primitive afr1can ape that still part of nature.

[@yujiandou4658]

V.V, Nero, and Elizabeth should get together and have a concert together.

[@zawwin1846]

Incorrect- Earth did birth an ultimate being, but it was Yeeted to space by Josheph Joestar.

[@weltmano6091]

"notes, as it were..." I see what you did there

[@felswinter7938]

Nekoarc is an Ultimate Being. No I will not elaborate.

[@yesman7675]

You don't have to. We all know that.

[@ibukunanjorin9054]

You're telling me that the Mages association KNOW there's an ultimate one sleeping on earth, waiting to awake and destroy everything. But are still more concerned with petty in fighting?!

[@clothar23]

External threats rarely unite anyone. Only when matters become personal do people become motivated. Or haven't you been paying attention to our own history ?

[@godzefkiel2686]

@this city is really a city Comma and periods. I could barely follow.

[@phantasticgoose]

1) They cannot, at present, do anything about it. Not even the Type-killer (Black Barrel) was able to really “kill” a Type (V/V admits at some point that her main body has recovered enough to be able to move - she just refuses to because it would mean killing everyone and everything in the city built on her “corpse”.) so they may as well think about something else they can actually do things about. 2) It’s much easier to forget about the sleeping distant threat and focus on the very active current perceived threat to themselves 3) Zelretch DID fight ORT, iirc, but he left it alone after. 4) Alaya might be trying to set up a way to remove it or at least permanently seal it somehow, but there’s a lot of other threats to deal with and it doesn’t like spending any more energy than is absolutely necessary to get the job done. So it might also just be leaving the problem of ORT for much much later.

[@ousamadearudesuwa]

Hey, its not like we humans have a good track of uniting for a common good.

[@blizzard1198]

Bro the mages association can't do shit and instead would be far worse for all life on earth by trying to provock a type

[@aredjayc2858]

Ah yes simultaneously some of the most OP and underutilized things in the Nasuverse. Sidenote, I think ORT is Type Oort (As in the Oort Cloud (It's the comets and other objects which orbit the sun beyond the Kuiper belt, the latter contains Pluto, Eris and other Dwarf planets)) as it being Type Mercury wasn't stated outright and was instead an assumption of Gun God (Hence the Question Marks), that in addition to its name of "ORT" and the fact that Nasu wanted it to be a "secret boss" (like how the Oort cloud isn't as much common knowledge as the planets and Sun) makes it make a lot more sense to me.

[@Khann_2102]

Can't wait to see ORT in FGO LostBelt 7

[@mvalthegamer2450]

@@Justic_ The Alien god wants an ultimate ones' body

[@williamharmon4039]

Plus its nickname is the Spider and the Japanese words for spider and cloud are pronounced the same.

[@aredjayc2858]

@@Justic_ yeah that too

[@aredjayc2858]

@@mvalthegamer2450 NGL I want ORT be awakened by the Alien God and subsequently kill it and become the primary foe of 2.5

[@kevinfiorello]

Otakudaikun is definitely Zelretch, he knows too much to be a human of our dimensions

[@Nobody_247]

That actually makes sense

[@BrianWilkersontheAuthor]

Nah, an apprentice who got his hands on a kaleidostick. Dai-chan would look amazing as a magical girl.

[@XxNIGHTWARExX]

Getting this video recommended after the release of Lostbelt 7 can't be just a coincidence.

[@otakudaikun]

Everyone must be googling ORT.

[@manograf3231]

I feel like with the recent ORT reveal this needs a little update

[@otakudaikun]

Yeah, this one's definitely an older vid.

[@neogokiMK00]

funny thing about TYPE-MERCURY ORT is german for "Place" or "Location" OORT refers to the OORT-Cloud, which is a part of our Solar-system

[@fakaguya9952]

is it not the one we saw its shadow in lostbelt 7 ?

[@sakuramatou4084]

One Radiance Thing 🤣

[@tenshuren.]

Type mercury matches the silhouette of the 2nd trailer of fgo lostbelt

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

Great, I can't wait to see ORT (and Daybit!) since they've been teased for too long.

[@sanstheskeleton679]

What do you think about them now?

[@tija1012]

Bruh i swear the nasuverse is so interesting. Its honestly my favorite in fiction.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

When you realize the Planets aren't even the most powerful things now, since the Outer Gods and Chaos revealed themselves. And let's not forget Velber, from which a SINGLE agent could wipe out all life on a planet if local fairies decided to be lazy

[@lenleon3699]

On the other hand Velber was foiled just by the planet creating ONE super weapon. So technically the planet has to drop the ball hard to let Velber win (Plus only one of the Velber agents was steamrolling everything, since the other one was actually incapacitated by the Gods, and who knows what the last one was doing).

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@lenleon3699 Velber aka Umbral Star is a menace of the galaxy. It has an intervened 14000 years cycle that get closer to the Solar System position. Thus when that thing arrived near the Oort Cloud around 14000 years ago, it scanned the Solar System and found Earth that has sentient lives and thriving civilization. It also detected the presence of an anomaly stationed on Earth's natural satellite, Moon. It then proceed it's main objective, seek, collect and destroy. Releasing two starships that is enough for the mission. After that, Velber left the areas and continues traversing the stars while leaving it's two starships to do their job. This two would be known as Velber 1 and Velber 2. Velber 1 later known as the White Titan is assigned towards the planet where it would wreak havoc and collect data from the surface. This single invader is the main cause of the beginning of the downfall of the Age of Gods. It destroyed countless civilizations and countless pantheons. It also the reason for the destruction upon the Olympians who before then are called the 12 Machine Gods. In another timeline that became a Lostbelt, the Greek pantheon survived the onslaught due to Zeus perversion of privacy upon assuming direct control over his siblings 'authority'. Thus not only repelling but destroying Velber 1 in such a massive attack. This timeline became a Lostbelt later on when Zeus wanted to persisted the Age of Gods and letting him taking over the Earth. Back to the origin, Velber 1 was only defeated due to an unknown swordsman that was granted a 'Holy Sword' that repelled and destroyed the invader. LB6 revealed (sorry for spoiler) that 6 Fairies were involved in forging the 'Holy Sword' (later known in history as Excalibur). The planet itself, Gaia, assigned this 6 Fairies in carrying out this very important task. While there's a lot of info regarding Velber 1 action takes place on Earth. The question is what about Velber 2? Where it could be during it's sibling assault on the planet? For that, Fate Extra have an explanation for it. It revealed that while Velber 1 targeted Earth, Velber 2 direct course is towards the Moon, the Moon Cell. Velber 2 mission is same as its sibling - seek, collect and destroy. Moon Cell, the automaton supercomputer, was alerted when Velber 2 shattered its defenses and began to siphoned off the digitized cells within. The supercomputer lost 15% of its mass before incapacitating the invader. Velber 2 is not actually destroyed but sealed off in the Far Side of the Moon. It has the appearance of Attila/Altera, only that it/she is a giant.

[@gypsysprite4824]

and do remember that earth as a planet is probably pretty damn weaksauce, considering it's the only one seemingly unable to make it's own ultimate one

[@pablotomasllodra4423]

@@gypsysprite4824 Archetype Earth may be the closest to a TYPE/Aristoteles/Ultimate One for our planet.

[@lenleon3699]

@@rogueascendant6611 You are forgetting the third one, though that is to be expected due to the fact all we know is that it lost.

[@APrinnyDood]

I Hope tsukihime remake develops Archetype Earth more, because my jaw fell to the floor when I saw her in a manga with awareness of whats happening in fgo. Makes you wonder if the other TYPEs perceive different timelines too

[@pena6819]

What manga are you talking about?

[@APrinnyDood]

@@pena6819 It was Melty Blood Back Alley Alliance Nightmare. Started out as a gag manga but turned into a fate/tsukihime crossover as it went

[@KainSpada09]

Well we now got Mooncancer archetype earth now. I hope that answers your question

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

Based on what we know of TYPE physical appearance, they may reflect their celestial body's respective features or not. Venus could have been habitable and Jupiter does have a red spot like how it's TYPE has a mini sun that's powering it. Now if there were to be a TYPE for the Astroid Belt, I would see it as a wheel of stone with eyes that shoot all sorts of elemental lasers, including antimatter as it's ultimate attack, for it might even kill itself.

[@julianrobertson1869]

@@thiscityisreallylookslikea8340 ORT is the code name given to TYPE Mercury, Oort is the Oort cloud , the cloud of dust that encapsulates the solar system. The kyper belt is a ring of debris the orbits past Uranus made mostly of dwarf planets , like Pluto, and comets. The asteroid belt is the ring of debris between Mars and Jupiter.

[@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub]

@@julianrobertson1869 ORT is apparently type Oort. It being Type Mercury was a red herring all along. Even it's name in japanese can be read in two ways: the spider of mercury/the cloud of comets

[@KainSpada09]

So basically an ophanim

[@Digidestined701]

I like to believe that these videos are canon to the Nasuverse, and exist as study material in clock tower. They’re just never USED, because mages can’t figure out how to get it to work

[@AverageAwesomeDude]

I dig this

[@label861]

Zelretch can perfectly do that, he just need to put those videos on a USB and no one in the Clock Tower will find them (Except Waver... probably)

[@anadaere6861]

This I also just imagine Zeltrech showing this to his students and his students panicking at the realization that they are being watched by some unknown entity and knows all things, magecraft included

[@AverageAwesomeDude]

@@anadaere6861 “behold students: These are the creatures that truly keep us alive providing mysterious things like “animation budget”, “merch” and something called the “holy waifu wars”. Truly the kaleidoscopes of the multiverse are as beautiful as they are mysterious”

[@nepspartan-7597]

@@AverageAwesomeDude somewhere in the Kaleidoscope is the ideal timeline where none of the horrible things in the nasuverse occur and everyone lives happily.

[@doyouwanttoplayagame4503]

In a perfect world this would all be animated

[@maggintons]

It's amazing how you have tenuously went from divine constructs to vampires via ultimate ones!

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

The fact that Ado edem was able to slay an ultimate one was quite interesting when I learned about them a few months back

[@otoshigami4465]

It was because his weapon changed its power and size to match the strength of his opponent.

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

@@otoshigami4465 yeah I'm aware of that much slash emperor is easily one of the more broken weapons in the verse

[@thorsonthe3rd200]

@@otoshigami4465 is that guy a servant or something? I don't really know much about notes but if the world was fucked like that why not call servants, and how the fuck is humanity fighting op types like this dude!?

[@yujiandou4658]

@@thorsonthe3rd200 the mystery and mana is depleted by that point so servants cannot manifest there

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@thorsonthe3rd200 Firstly, Ado Edem aka Slash Emperor is not a Servant but an Ether Liner, a new breed of human that adapted living in a hellish environment. Secondly, humanity even in the distant future is not aware of Magecraft and just used Scientific advancement to propel themselves to great heights. Not knowing Magecraft means not knowing a single thing about the Throne of Heroes and Heroic Spirits. And thirdly, living in a desolated planet, mankind need to evolve as for that comes with the existence of Ether Liners and A-Rays. On this dead world, this new species of humans have their powers enhanced to great lengths as they are enriched with the presence of Grains (a very lethal toxic component that comes from planet's corpse). A new type of warfare emerge upon using Grains. Making old conventional wars meaningless and more so as sticks and stones. Humanity at this distant future grew powerful to the point that a battle against Types is not something they're afraid off.

[@Muradarer]

Here because Type Mercury has become very relevant in fgo.

[@yunantheobserver6841]

ORT is actually TYPE OORT CLOUD. It's not just planets but celestial bodies, case in point TYPE MOON.

[@otakudaikun]

Yes, tho sadly the lostbelt kinda retcons previous assumptions.

[@Muradarer]

@@otakudaikun Any chance of a updated video then? Or maybe put the retcon info in a lostblet video?

[@otakudaikun]

@@Muradarer Well obviously it would be covered when I get to lb7. Not sure I'd give it a video all its own though.

[@Muradarer]

@@otakudaikun appreciate it man you doing gods work 🫡

[@stevepitt-ash4628]

Thank you dai! Been wondering about types for so damn long thank u man for the lesson

[@Hecate6969]

I've been wondering, does anyone else think it's inevitable that we will be fighting types in fgo with a future storyline at some point past the current main quests? Given they are classified as world ending threats and fgo is about saving the world from near impossible situations to overcome, it just sounds perfect as a final act for when fgo will eventually end.

[@otakudaikun]

I've been hearing rumors that ORT might play a role.

[@ron2millionare972]

I heard a rumor that Beast VII is planning to use the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud as a host body.

[@lucadomenichini4926]

@@otakudaikun Me too, and it's actually possible since the last lostbelt is in South America

[@Hecate6969]

I hope so because that sounds AWESOME! Thanks everyone!

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Apparently ort is gonna be in the last lostbelt so let's hope

[@flygonkerel781]

I was so hyped when they brought the black barrel into fgo

[@TheGreatEmerorMu]

I'm still waiting for Fgo x Tsukihime collab!!!

[@zarakikenpachi6888]

Its promising Because ORT and Arcueid are already in fgo

[@ordislux]

Type Saturn sounds like the Evangelion in a nutshell.

[@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223]

I can't wait to see the next lesson.

[@almm9486]

Thanks for your time and effort.

[@thabangpatiko9869]

The concept of Gaia wanting to destroy the same world she have been protecting just because she did not want humans to outlive is painful underrated I mean Gaia created the throne of heroes, the counter force and divine contracts for the sake of protecting the world. This concept is very interesting and has a lot of potential to make a very good story

[@blizzard1198]

I blame gaia for the destruction of earth,she let humans pollute it and kill whole entire species,why? I'm just saying if it was me I would atleast killed 2/3 of humanity's population and stopped they're advancement

[@ozzboom9907]

Holding onto hope for V/V to be summonable one day, although I doubt it due to the fact that she can only exist in Notes, a time where Alaya is pretty much dead, so the throne won’t be able to register V/V somehow. Hoping V/V has her guitar if she’s a servant though, would be funny if she just slaps people with Guitars in her attack animations.

[@unrankedchevron742]

Type Mercury about to get a lot more relevant.

[@khiemnguyen7929]

Types vs Death Star.

[@theflyingace611]

I'm of the belief that the next arc of FGO is gonna lead to us fighting Types

[@NekoKat.]

Awesome lesson as usual. I know I wouldn't mind going in-depth into all the notes and types. Only because I like knowing every thing there is to know about the fantasy world's I enjoy

[@flygonkerel781]

I know most of the lore video subjects but God fucking damn is it nice to see dai Kun talking aboit the nasuverse in whole, including the obsuxre stuff!!!

[@Koscacio]

Kuku remind me of Musashi quite alot. Smooth Brain Extrovert that held Extraordinary power. It was fun having her around even if the time was short.

[@0SDCM]

Love that your voice sounds like something you’d hear in an Atlus game (Persona, SMT)

[@cah137-y4s]

The Ultimate Ones, and more specifically ORT, is what got me into Fate after years of being only tangentially aware of the franchise. The idea of having these gigantic eldritch alien entities looming in the background of a story about magic users is exactly my vibe.

[@jacobbenjamin2664]

I’ve had this weird feeling we may learn a little more about them in the 7th lostbelt. It’s probably a stretch but type Mercury is “hibernating” in South America, and that’s also where his lostblet is located. All we know is the word “forest” and that fact that humanity is almost non-existent. I wonder if it doesn’t have something to do with when type Mercury hit the planet.

[@brendentroiden222]

They literally state there is an ultimate one in Lostbelt 7. There is a 100% chance we will learn more about them.

[@pena6819]

I heard someone say that the forest could be the forest of Ainnash, but I doubt it. Would be pretty cool tho.

[@jacobbenjamin2664]

@@brendentroiden222 wait where?! I missed that part. I remember them saying a grand servant is there, not an ultimate one.

[@brendentroiden222]

@@jacobbenjamin2664 in Olympus they say it, they mention that there is the Ultimate one of the Oort Cloud in Lostbelt 7. A golden womb which spawns hellish beasts, and in worlds where the common sense of mankind is dominant it sleeps. In worlds where Gaia is dominant it wiggles and squirms.

[@MichaelR0aTran]

Here we are guys...The true nightmare has arrived !!!

[@Sonu8KD]

I will wait for part 2 on this topic once lb7 is completed

[@Itachi45481]

man love this little info

[@EYYYYYJustin]

So in other words if Ben 10 existed in the nasuverse he would be even more busted with all these aliens he can scan.

[@pablotomasllodra4423]

Celestialsapien, anyone?

[@thirdplanet4471]

Imagine if the omnitrix makes an ultimate ORT

[@quantum7046]

I love these videos

[@kurokochi7130]

pretty nice to have a lore vid about them, considering there is the theory that one is in lb 7

[@kurokochi7130]

gonna be honest, still don't really understand those fuckers

[@TheDeath7ofsb]

the heck was that... edit: no seriously, after listening to all of that it has me picturing Vash the stampede as gun god and I have this overwhelming urge to scream at shinji to get into the goddamned robot!!

[@Red-lw7xc]

YES NOTES WILL NEVER DIE

[@flygonkerel781]

Notes lore LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!! How lomg havev i waited for this?

[@royd209]

ayy a notes related video lets goo

[@ilucasz]

I tried to research where that came this description that Type Venus was a fish. I've just found that the Types were wandering above the cloud sea like fish on the water and that Type Venus's form was something humanoid and angel-like, since it's said on the glossary that her projection form ressembles her actual form.

[@otakudaikun]

Hmm... I suppose it's hard to pin down given how little of Notes was drawn, and how short it is.

[@ilucasz]

@@otakudaikun Well, I got that interpretation from what I've read. There's always a chance for me to be wrong because it was a fan translation. But from what I've read, the only part mentioning fish was on the cloud sea and the blood sky.

[@ninjabreadman8166]

Looking forward to meeting The Spider in the last Lostbelt! Also, I like that MHXX has an NP that directly references Slash Emperor :D

[@aynonymos]

Off to South America to poke the sleeping ultimate.

[@gundamsetsuna2899]

then there is true form Sefar/ Velber 02 who is left in a weird grey zone in terms of where it stacks up against these things.

[@chaosblazko5863]

in fact that is quite interesting now that you mention it ... with the lostbelt 6 we discovered that if SEFAR was not stopped she would destroy all the earth on the planet and only leave the sea, mmm maybe she could fight a type but in my opinion I feel like SEFAR would lose in the end.

[@uteriel282]

sefar is pretty much an ultimate one in the sense that it has no concept of death and can only be temporarily disabled. and thats from getting hit with the only weapon on earth other than black barrel that can damage beings like that aka excalibur along with the attacks of several gods. if it wasnt for the mooncells action to seal sefar in it earth would have been doomed either way tho.

[@3dark7]

So Arcueid can be a DBZ/Superman type of warrior!?! Interesting...

[@pablotomasllodra4423]

@saber 1616 Nasuverse: has conceptual hax DBZ: has casual planet-busting raw power with the high god-tiers able to destroy universes

[@momosan3040]

@@pablotomasllodra4423 DBZ in general lacks in hacks. While it has tremendous raw power , it still lacks in hacks. Considering how the nasuverse already has beings who are above space and time and conceptual hacks that can insta kill the dbz characters, beings who are 5D or even above that. Literally no one is touching the powerhouses in the nasuverse .Also I'm pretty sure no one in dbz is capable of actually killing something that has no concept of death.

[@Janken_Pro]

@saber 1616 it was outright stated that universe 7 would be destroyed in 3 hits if not for Goku cancelling the energy. It was also stated that a fight between champa and beerus would destroy their respective universes. Jiren and Toppo can shake the infinite world of void just by powering up. Angels are more powerful than gods of destruction. Zeno can outright erase timelines if he wanted to. So there's plenty of universal firepower in db.

[@Janken_Pro]

@saber 1616 yes it was stated that they would destroy the universe. Watch the fight again and stop lowballing. Gaia is planetary trash. Same with Arcueid. Zeno would just press the delete button on them.

[@Janken_Pro]

@saber 1616 look I don't care who wins but stop downplaying db. They were stated to destroy universe 7 if goku wasn't to cancel the shockwaves. It's stated by whis and vados when champa and beerus clashed that both universe 6 and 7 would be destroyed. Against ssg goku, beerus nullified a universal energy ball. You're a filthy lowballer who can't even speak properly. Get an education first

[@daii2x]

I have bee n waiting for this

[@ivanbluecool]

So much stuff nasu later uses or repurposses in his stories. Gun god reminds me of Kerry with the angel kinda like iri. Slashs move reminds me of mhxx where she used her double Excalibur to attack it basically looks the same. The types going to fgo is fine but I doubt we will get more information even when lb 7 comes as fgo has its own thing to do. Types I remember hearing arc being the strongest being on earth currently from the moon while fate aside avicebron and his np if it was allowed to go to full level and the earth would choose it to help with Mana. Enkidu was made by the gods so I doubt he counts. I do wonder who else could count as strongest aside zeltreck The eriays and it's enemies remind me of lb 5 where wodime wanted humans to evolve much like amakusa and fate Requiem where people would or almost did get better at surviving to save humanity at the end of the day. Atlas and clocktower I still say are underused Man how I want to see more of this content as it's so interesting as a whole but nasu could bring stuff up in the tsukuhime remake hopefully

[@Doralga]

Clock Tower has plenty of expansion all of El melloi case files centers on it Atlas and the Wondering Sea are far more underused Sion is still the only confirmed member of both Organizations. I think you mean Ether-liners the A-rays as described in Notes we're more Valkyrie like, while other we're anthropomorphic in nature the Liners we're more Cybernetic with similar looks to the nanomachines in Atlantis only they had no human forms at all a major deference between them is that Liners have Magecraft comparable to Wodime.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@Doralga clocktower is still missing some key timeline that Nasu won't write. wandering sea I could see be done if fgo didn't make it a joke already in an event. Atlas not sure what they could do with that since notes seems more something that will be done in lb 7. Wodime isn't even that strong in a direct way. He is just clever with his power using intimidation and perceived being more powerful than he is when storing his power for the right moment and that in turn gets his strong allies who fear or respect his power to do his work while he waits. Honestly they are better than the Valkyrie by a mile because nasu and co can't write a good Nordic story mixing it with Celtic all the time.

[@Doralga]

@@ivanbluecool Wodime Magecraft is still plenty powerful his Animusphere Star rain was stronger then 5 professionals at the clocktower using their power to boost Olga Marie the reason Wodime had to charge and recharge was due to his condition as his magic circuits being cripple during in a Assassination attempt and thus couldn't use them properly allowing the heroes a chance. Not sure how a timeline would help the clocktower granted my guess is that its foundation happened as Albion corpse was discovered hmm. They had a chance with Atlas back at singularity 6 or a description when Black Barrel was introduced since it's one of the seven taboos all being held at Atlus. If prototype was centralize and produce with fragments of sky silver the Valkyrie was better written Nasu just hates Nordic lore.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@Doralga that's what I mean. Wodime has to be more tactful than strong when using his powers to fight. It actually makes him more interesting as a whole turning a weakness to a streghts like how emiya only had a few magic skills but used them to thier top. Nasu always makes it a background thing and that is sad. I would like to hear more on atlas. Well Bryn is better as a whole since fgo I don't really see much on her even in lb 2 where her character goes to fan girl when sigurd shows up.

[@Doralga]

@@ivanbluecool Oh yeah I'm with you on that Emiya in the VN it's implied that Shirou can project more and control the number of Magical energy through each Circuit he has which in a sense would mean thanks to the lack of said MC's you can freely control how much in-mana and Odd-mana you can utilized. Which is probably why Magi like Waver and Shirou can potentially utilize more high grade magecraft like Reality Marble but alas Nasu doesn't focus on it much. Bryn is a bit of a misunderstood writers case she was never Yandere or fan girl in the prequel novel she was normal it was her Master's Love potion that turned her Yandere, seems like DW just looked at the fetish charts and decided marketing mattered more.

[@carlosgarza400]

I come and I learn the Nasuverse is just like the Evaverse in which you must consume all to understand anything

[@hesklairvoyant]

Hey this is unrelated but it’s about fate so basically I made my own lostbelt concept lol It’s basically if mordred won against artoria and she didnt die She also is darkened by the grail and turned into a alter and her alter is a 5 star Her noble phantasm is “blood of the fallen king HELLISH BLOOD ARTHURRRRR She also darkens the remaining knights of the round and they serve her she becomes a evil tyrant. The extra servants summoned are artoria lol karna, scathach, Jack the Ripper, Chiron, Achilles, and fran They all team up except jack she goes off and does her own thing like murder They meet village folk and start talking to them about a revolution but kept artoria coming back a secret The knights of the round are alters and control a village the main cast must overthrow until they reach mordred up to this point the final battle karna and artoria is the last surviving extra servants summoned by the grail mordred kill him and artoria and her have one final battle and artoria kills mordred but she also dies like how they did in life and they restore the lostbelt I know this will never happen but it’s a cool concept I guess 😅

[@SiegfriedFafnirsbane]

The concept is Good enough for a singularity but it's length would be too short for a Lostbelt. NGL that NP name is very Cringe.

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

Great job on the lesson Dai. I wonder since ORT looks like a spider(ORT:HEY!) what TYPE Mars looks like.... maybe a armored God of war?

[@NEXUSKNIGHT2]

@saber 1616 That would fit TYPE Mars pretty greatly

[@alfierowenaw5827]

Yes Hi, Mister DaiKun... I am a Master of Chaldea from the future and uhmm... About ORT... We really need it now.... Because someone fused with the alien god WANT TO FUSE WITH ORT!

[@keruzaaa.7622]

Nice Info

[@final909]

Man can't wait to see Ort in FGO Lostbelt 7

[@BrianWilkersontheAuthor]

If Pluto has its own will, does that mean every other planetoid does ad well? A scary thought, that.

[@otakudaikun]

I assume all celestial bodies do. It's not a fully developed concept though.

[@jarosawerdanowski4295]

I was hopeing to see duck arcueido when you starts talking about type moon.

[@keikeikei8959]

rewatching again for the upcoming lb 7

[@rgama1173]

So... They are like ego the living planet with all the infinity stones each.?

[@hellrider22393]

What the heck!!! They need to make an anime for this, or an event in fgo

[@vent5294]

Pluto has more then enough reason to get revenge

[@caretakercat7176]

For the name "Type Moon" itself is actually a living cosmic being that consist of the entire moon. Moon "came" After responding gaia's call with the agreement to be protected from humanity's corruption.

[@michaelcgrigori7823]

Gungod needs his own vn!

[@taco2215]

I know people say that say fate is confusing because of the timeline but God damn it this was 1 of the most confusing things from nasuverse ever

[@kristenhall3327]

Honestly, considering how they revamped ORT's design I have little doubt they will reboot Type Venus design. Shoot they might even add a few more Types like Type Europa or Type Io or even Type Asteroid Belt. After all if the Moon and Oort cloud can have Types than every celestial body/group can.

[@kziila0244]

Waiting for Type Kuiper.

[@hugolalej]

Yesss Ive been waiting for this video for ages, thank you otakudai kun. PD I really want to hear your opinion on the tsukihime remake.

[@messengerfrom0]

This knowledge might be useful if someone would need to fight a man from nevada inhabiting a world from the pruning-theoretical-therom which just so happens also contains ORT.

[@kouyang9393]

I wonder if we will encounter Type Mercury in Lost Belt 7 since that place is in South American

[@GnosisZX]

Wonder how ultimate ones are made maybe similar to brethren moons in dead space by mashing all species into one being

[@MadZwe1]

Now, we wait what sort of bs will Nasu write for Lostbelt 7

[@Justin-ui5ti]

Ahhhh Archetype Earth. She’s finally came to F/GO.

[@Ladazotz]

would love to see something on true ancestors. i picked up a bit from your chinese lostbelt vid but they seem to pop up everywhere and i still dont know what they are

[@peterb8904]

Pretty sure he has a video on them but it might still be only available his patreon.

[@joshuapineda1369]

Hmmm. Maybe we'll somehow see Type Mercury in the final Lostbelt since it will be set in Meso-America or something. Idk. I am not knowledgeable with the whole Nasuverse lore, just knows some part of it through your videos lol

[@farrisfadzil1294]

Sensei if other planets decided to attack earth to prevent Humanity from reaching the age of will. Will the counter guardian be enough to prevent them from destroying humanity.

[@kae1971]

Just wondering any chance you'll do a video of just all the lessons in magecraft in one video like a volume 1 sort of deal? Just all the videos in one single video.

[@otakudaikun]

That's not a bad idea. I'm sure some people would like that.

[@samuelsisno6130]

i hole nasu makes a movie about note it will be epic

[@goldeyeblue]

Oh my god, this is all crazy, bare minimum Planet Level Gods beyond Beasts or Grand Servants, who theoretically have feats and powers far beyond that capable of shaking the cosmos in a battle for the World! Where can one read Notes, I had to watch this video twice or thrice to kind of wrap my mind around these factors!

[@stargazingeek5989]

Beast's lair, go to the forum & search angel notes translation. They got a lot of translations for stuff like the case files novels and such

[@brokenrequiem2716]

Is it possible that the 7th lostbelt was created because ORT/TYPE-Mercury went out of control too early on in history?

[@laioszafeiriou4388]

Is it me or do we really need Notes. animated? Question on that though, is there a 'story' per se to animate? A short OVA perhaps?

[@label861]

In my mind a Notes anime is similar to Black Bullet (Old apocalyptic anime... heh, Black Bullet and Black Barrel) but with Nasu's conceptual mindfuckery.

[@emangillespie]

I really want to know what happened to Slash Emperor, is it still around, or did it get destroyed?

[@ivanbluecool]

Funny how this is the first story nasu wrote yet takes place at the end of the timelines as well. Classic nasu. Real talk I read notes and I wish nasu would focus in this instead of lb 6 stuff as I find the universe Characters we see and how the world works to be so interesting that if nasu was able to make it a fully fleshed out series it could go up thier with zero and strange fake plus ubw in how Characters are pretty interesting despite the simple premise of a war. I guess fgo will keep getting small hints about this stuff with ort and black barrel showing up but I wish we could actually see these characters interact with the fate cast as well.

[@ShinJack_]

Technically mahoyo was the first story written by Nasu not Angel Notes

[@ivanbluecool]

@@ShinJack_ either way it's one of the older ones that deserves a fully fleshed out story to learn more about the world Best guess fgo will probably make more references to it with types and such which should be fun to see.

[@ivanbluecool]

@saber 1616 I could still see ort be used even after lb 7 but it's cool either way. Like lb 5 I really like how the gods were fighting other worldly beings which is gonna be fun to read on na eventually

[@madambutterfly1997]

Type Moon. Roll credits