Lester Maddox and Jim Brown Get Into Heated Debate on Segregation | The Dick Cavett Show

[@ThatBeeyatch]

It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.

[@dancelee3751]

Right

[@tomashenderson1873]

💣💣💣💣

[@clan3775]

Because they have no fixed position

[@clan3775]

At least in public

[@aaronbrigham4743]

Right

[@AljoniMusiCo]

Mark Twain -> ''Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.''

[@buggaboo7073]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@maljayworldstar776]

Why does did this post make me die of laughter

[@DC-ss2jx]

What did he say in the interview that makes him an idiot ?

[@BarryaLLen-ik8bq]

Mark Twain was a luciferian baster

[@AljoniMusiCo]

@@DC-ss2jx ~ Listen again! Then go figure!

[@mennovanwijk2967]

Jim Brown's way of speaking is pure class. How he stayed so calm during all those rude interruptions.. I realized I should be saying more of these 'can I give you my answer?' or 'can I finish?' in conversations, rather than just trying to speak louder. What a legend!

[@cyrustate]

i just learned something by reading your comment. thankyou.

[@mojojoji5493]

@@user-mi5xq8zj7u uuh ? What? 😂¿

[@pancho1071]

@@user-mi5xq8zj7u now the juniors are continuing the debate.

[@htbcerberus5358]

@@user-mi5xq8zj7u same

[@sherrigrant573]

Sometimes I say "are you finished or are you done?"

[@senpai7101]

RIP Jim Brown. What a monumental presence. What a monumental man.

[@dontaviouschandler3961]

Broke my heart when I found out about this today 05/19/2023

[@Mr2110Sandman]

Jim Brown died almost 20 years after Lester Maddox. RIP to the late great Jim Brown🙏 .

[@EMT_Rick]

He died?

[@dontaviouschandler3961]

@@EMT_Rick yes he did, this past Friday afternoon. He was 87

[@DreaandChris123]

@@dontaviouschandler3961 wait what

[@patbarrysgroomingshop1677]

Jim Brown’s composure is legendary

[@patbarrysgroomingshop1677]

Psychic Tarot Jimmy how did he threaten him?

[@beebrown4054]

Yeah, My Son looks like and acts alotlike him

[@GuyFromTheSouth]

When you get mad you lose the debate. A lot of young people don't get that.

[@runedit9044]

Beating your wife isn't legendary composure.

[@jaysmail]

Edwin Batiste How impressive is Jim Brown... amazing.

[@trappapush5191]

I just witnessed patience being exercised to the highest degree. ✊🏽

[@B304A124]

+Trappa Push TELL me about it!!

[@Jiujitsu43]

Maddox voice would make me commit homicide

[@habsfan7944]

I would not have been so patient. I wanted to punch him in the face through my phone, the little dweeb.

[@donbuice9742]

Yes. Gov. Maddox had lots of patience with that smart ass Jim Brown.

[@motherearth9971]

Savage vile ass governor

[@DavidDiMuzio]

Jim Brown is a VERY smart and wise man. I'm an instant fan of him watching this interview.

[@stevetoth7136]

Definitely. I cant wait to.watch him play.next season. I cannot believe in 2019 this Georgia Governor is still that racist

[@marymcdaniel8999]

@@stevetoth7136 How is it shocking?

[@danh4724]

Steve Toth this is 1970

[@Johnkoth]

and Its Lester Maddox a Democrat and Georgia Governor at the tine.

[@MattMacedo85]

Republicans love to point their fingers at others instead of owning up to something

[@chrisolson6313]

The Great Jim Brown. Such dignity and grace. Trying to carry the ball forward for society ❤ RIP

[@dreamon5543]

How are we going forward? Blind fool.

[@DanFernandesBenficaSaint]

If he saw it today he would probably retract everything he said.

[@jamesrobert4106]

​@DanFernandesBenficaSaint Precisely...The statistics tell the facts unfortunately.

[@ChaseEmbrace]

He brought up the fact that he "has a reputation" and made fun of Lester Maddox for bringing a state trooper. Yes, VERY "dignified" and "graceful" lol

[@RoddyPipersCorneas]

It's only "forward" if you're naive or black, or both.

[@zacmonarch4845]

What's even better is that the host stays out of it.. imagine Jimmy Kimmel or Fallon on there

[@heavyhaul8621]

This conversation could never happen with those two dimwits

[@zacmonarch4845]

@@heavyhaul8621 right..and it would be more about how you feel than actual facts

[@SonnyGTA]

Zac Monarch they would be making all sorts of moronic comments and crying!!!!!!

[@SonnyGTA]

Zac Monarch they would say “BUT YOU’RE A WHITE MALE!”

[@zacmonarch4845]

@@SonnyGTA I am?

[@jblflatpicker]

“Heated interview”...that’s a stretch. The governor was the only one who seemed a little heated. Jim and Dick were cool as cucumbers.

[@leaveblank6542]

Jarod Lewis You have to fight with your mind! We will fight with our mind and win with our heart. Tara

[@outsidethepyramid]

nothing wrong with being heated, there is a lot at stake and people's lives are a serious thing.

[@NunyaBidness162]

The gov. kept interrupting and wouldn't let Jim finish any of his statements!

[@Justin-od8se]

@DankBurrito lol people, like yourself, really believe such revisionist bullshit. 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

@DankBurrito No, desegration was telling black people that people aren't allowed to be discriminated them when applying to a job, work, housing, and benefits because of their skin. And if they were discriminated that they now had the government on their side to help them out

[@freddiekustaa2633]

That brother was smooth, cool, calm and collected...

[@palmer77thomas]

Smoothest wife beater going.

[@freddiekustaa2633]

Thomas Palmer 🤭

[@brklyn216]

He loc

[@fabianbell2793]

On mommas

[@mariadacre5875]

Can only a black be a "brother" or does that include other people?

[@JABARDELLI]

It’s too bad the full show wasn’t shown as Lester Maddox, feeling the heat, got up and walked off stage before the program ended.

[@MelanatedHomesteadher]

😂😂😂really

[@groerulesyourface]

@@MelanatedHomesteadher no not really dumbass

[@carltonlong1985]

Cavett's show was really ahead of it's time. No cheeseball antics, or attempting to avert people's attention toward a commercial break when things got heated.

[@RussianCelt]

Actually that was more the norm in the 70's, the cheeseball/sensational crap came more from the 80s

[@Danjacytes]

I miss television like this

[@Mer1912]

But that’s the thing, there were plenty of commercial breaks back then. They’ve just changed the content of the programs.

[@raelraven3]

Unfortunately this kind of show disappeared almost completely after the 1970s. With all due respect this show was of its time, not ahead of its time.

[@Rascarrr]

How was that ahead of its time when the stuff you're talking about would only become more prevalent in later years. Sounds like the exact opposite of ''ahead of its time''.

[@theebigda]

Mr. Brown is one cool dude. He kept the conversation so civil and stayed so calm.

[@clembuck6006]

Yes he does,JimBrown is a great man. The other dude is out of his mind..

[@Dbulkss]

@@clembuck6006 How so?

[@benitocamela3052]

Yep and look at how Maddox does NOT keep the conversation civil and calm: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bV6biIGCasempsk

[@kameronharrison3397]

True that

[@bernieweber4663]

How's that? Did you hear the end? He was not being civil in the end of the tape.

[@benskurbe]

Jim brown has the composure as well as the linguistic and argumentative grace of a true scholar.

[@noelivester7340]

Of a truly amateur scholar

[@sammarks9146]

@@rontungol3870 I can see how that could be interpreted as racist, but it's also rare to see anyone, of any type, so composed under those conditions in the media today.

[@sammarks9146]

@@rontungol3870 I'm sorry, I totally thought you were replying to Ben Skurbe's original comment, and saying it was racist to compliment a black man's linguistic skill (the same thing has been said of Obama). Sorry for the misunderstanding :)

[@noelivester7340]

@@rontungol3870 Brother man take my advice, not every fact you hear is true.. the only guide worth listening to is Jesus Christ and his disciples, proprietors of the one eternal truth. As it was in the beginning, it is now. It ever shall be as such. Forgive me of my sins against you, humbly do I implore.

[@rickredmond9847]

Brown has more class in his pinky finger than Maddox ever tried to have in his entire lifetime. Maddox was out-classed 10 to 1 and knew it which is why he kept rudely running his fat mouth.

[@JohnBlu5]

REST IN PEACE TO AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND, ON AND OFF THE FIELD!!

[@nick56677]

Someone said the Governors voice alone can light a cross, and I about died😂

[@EzeICE]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

He looks like a conehead

[@phermcgee1797]

💀Smh

[@rastaboyshotta8806]

😂

[@yourhusbandismyboyfriend1714]

Facts! 🥴😆

[@bb-pz2zl]

This is a football player displaying a better and more articulated way of debating than a governor.

[@shootr1303]

Horse hockey. You just like his view more. Maddox was right. The government has no business forcing a POV on anyone. I'm sure that goes against your PC POV but you'll probably live to see why that was a very bad road to go down. Sooner or later your PC friends will try to force their views on everything on everyone and that includes you. Look around. The left is eating its own now. They will come after you eventually. Mao's Cultural Revolution is your example. Your parents don't think right - turn them in so they get murdered by the state. The road you endorse will destroy this country. And I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut they will find some reason to come after you.

[@AdversaryOne]

@@shootr1303 lol

[@Synochra]

@@shootr1303 what on earth are you talking about. This whole rant because of a simple observation? You're obsessed man.

[@KirkNurse]

Shootr you're not particularly articulate so I'm not sure what was the exact message you're trying to convey. People like you have been expelling this drivel for decades. I will just assume you are trolling to gaslight, which is what the modern day internet has become If that's the case, bravo. However if you truly hold this position, from the little I could decipher from your incoherent ramblings you're a sad indictment of your education system

[@ronblack2700]

Shootr @Shootr...So if maddox was correct, then why did he speak as though Mohammed Ali, was some form of a traitor because of what he believed in? I agree that this government should not make you do what you don't want to do, however don't be a hypocrite and say " I like everyone, but I really don't like black people." That was Maddox.

[@christianalexanderthegreat8941]

People nowadays will say “why would you give [this person] a platform?” There’s no better argument against a corrupt person than exposing them.

[@matthewalkman3735]

he actually owned Jim Brown. ALL PEOPLE MATTER. Jim wanted to focus on black people.

[@miguelgildesouzagomesperei2805]

Well, the problem is that back then those blatant statements ought to have the effect you describe much because the way discourse was structured was heavily influenced by where those people were from. So the retoric Maddox uses was effective on certain regions but couldn't stand a chance on the centers of discourse of the time. The far right speakers of today are way more prepared in the art of dressing their arguments as reasonable even on a aesthetic level even because of the progress of mass media so the far-right is way more aware of the retoric employed by their counterparts therefore far more able to hide hideous intents on politeness and skillfull debate. If you look at the way Ben Shapiro or someone (not so relevant right now) Milos Greeksurname frames the conversation you can see the way they bend the argument their way. Anything can sound reasonable if well spoken. Also there's guys like the one that commented before me.

[@al-xj9hs]

@@matthewalkman3735 Genuine question, not trying to start an argument: Are you also in agreement that segregation should still exist? Given that he was a proponent of segregation, which explicitly separates individuals based on ethnic and cultural backgrounds, I found it odd that Maddox would be opposed to a black man talking about the condition of black people in his country. Why would you be a proponent separating people based on specific characteristics, but then objecting to speaking about their unique needs given a sociopolitical landscape that has treated them differently for hundreds of years on those exact same characteristics?

[@SonnyGTA]

Christian Alexander the Great blacks will always ‘get the platform’ because whites don’t want to be labeled as ‘racists’

[@SonnyGTA]

Matthew Alkman 100%! OWNED him. Hard. That’s why Jim Brown had to act black and pretend to be a tough guy. Maddox didn’t fucking flinch.

[@kenkaniff6483]

I love watching the Dick Cavett Show. This show was before my time but it’s so much better than any talk show or late night show on today. This is real discourse, not some stooge and controlled opposition.

[@93Jubilee]

I never liked Cavett, still don't. He loved having a conflict, loved just watching it. Coward.

[@themarketingbully1686]

The problem with small minded people is that their mouth is always open.

[@hqi1321]

And unmasked!

[@waldeckdolce7379]

Lolll😁👏🏿

[@Hermetic_Truths]

Just an FYI Jim Brown supports Trump ....

[@hqi1321]

@@Hermetic_Truths I guess no one's perfect :-/. I don't really understand why black americans support Donald Trump.

[@paulmayerpiano]

Right. It's pretty hard for someone to broaden their horizons if the only opinion they ever give consideration to is their own. Years ago, when I was apprenticing to learn a trade (welding), I worked with a lot of older, experienced tradesmen. I found I always learned the most when I kept my eyes and ears open, and my mouth shut.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

Jim Brown was in the Army reserves as a second lieutenant and finished his service while playing in the NFL. He could've been called up to serve abroad at any time, luckily he wasn't. Lester Maddox didn't serve a day in his life, yet he feels that he can speak on military issues more than Jim Brown can.

[@revolverocelot1380]

Not surprised. This is the Souths legacy. Its sad that it still goes on today and that there's still animals that will defend and repeat maddoxs rhetoric.

[@aarondigby9859]

@@revolverocelot1380 they turned back Roe v Wade, ijs

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@aarondigby9859 I know. But if you're against abortion shouldn't you try to make society easier for kids that are born into bad conditions? Conservatives do little of that, if any.

[@pholland8353]

That’s because he still believed he was superior. He was offended every time Jim tried to speak about about his experience

[@rojayreid908]

@@revolverocelot1380 Conservatives do way better than the liberals they do nothing.

[@David99356]

Amazed at Jim Brown's patience and calm!

[@joycecooper5684]

So am I

[@Amb63]

I aspire to have Jim’s patience and calmness in life like he had in this interview.

[@sammavacaist]

You have to prepare yourself in advance and learn how detach your emotions. Scream in a room afterward! Lol

[@danielbaksik7513]

His patience ? He was agitated & he was threatening the Governor, because he didn't agree with him about the Truthful facts the Governor was stating.

[@palmer77thomas]

Jim is a notorious wife beater who refused counseling for domestic abuse. You should aim higher in your aspiration.

[@Amb63]

Thomas Palmer. Did I say “in his life “or “in this interview”? There is nothing wrong with rereading a sentence.

[@palmer77thomas]

@@Amb63 who cares; he wasn't even calm in this interview. Referring to his "reputation" was just a way of threating an old man. Again, you should aim higher.

[@jonathanaugustin647]

Jim was so poised and eloquent. As a black man (especially back then) you have to keep your cool when racists are spouting out b.s. It just takes one flash of anger before they use that against you. It is unfair, but true.

[@ooooa9046]

Agreed, but this goes for any race, sex, or creed. It’s a universal concept, that applies to everyone, it is not a black or white thing.

[@corpgov]

@@ooooa9046 stop with the "universal" crap; context is important here. Whites tended to view blacks as subordinate going back in time in the States, so that comment is entirely understandable. It amazes me whenever whites get triggered by someone not white talking about their experience of discrimination. Will you just listen?

[@theteddy1487]

@@corpgov how do you know the color of either the OP or that of the person that you're responding to. As for the original post. Jim here is the quintessential example of what the face of any movement should be. He has the ability to remain calm and collected when faced with the opposition rather than breaking down into either anger or hysterics like so many people tend to do now.

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

@@ooooa9046 Context is needed before you spill a statement like this. Any outburst (God forbid a physical confrontation) by Jim Brown towards a governor, especially back when Jim Crow was still fresh in people's minds, wouldn't have ended well. The stakes were much higher back then than it would be today.

[@Frank00]

Especially as a black man? Is that not what you expect from every black man, to be eloquent and articulate? What a racist statement you just made. Especially back then? What do you even know about blacks back then or now?

[@louiehaha]

Maddox starts off in the very beginning saying that he believes segregation is about pride in one’s race but the minute Jim Brown focuses on black people and their issues, he quickly changes his stance to “all people.”

[@metaldad1967]

yup...dilute the issue...

[@louiehaha]

metaldad1967 He said “all people,” and some people today say “all lives matter.” It’s all the same racist mindset

[@metaldad1967]

I agree with you. My comment was in reference to Maddox's tactic of dismissal of Jim Brown, disrespecting Jim Brown by constantly interrupting and talking over him and diluting the real issue by flipping his stance.

[@louiehaha]

metaldad1967 Agreed 100%. What people don’t realize is that all of this STILL goes on today. America should be glad black people are only looking for equality and not revenge

[@metaldad1967]

@@louiehaha truth!👍That's all we ever wanted.

[@gentle.unicorn]

9:34 there's that "all lives matter" mindset, it's funny how the past offers us a mirror to see our society as it still exists

[@UKtoUSABrit]

Never heard the young Jim Brown speak before. What an impressive guy. A class act - and very bright.

[@NCstuntkingENT]

Andrew I agree

[@bigleak07]

Same! Current homework 🙌🏿🙌🏾🙌🏽🙌🙌🏻🙌🏼

[@iluciferi5320]

Andrew He hates White people you ignorant white fool.

[@AmirKhan-yv8jm]

Andrew is this Jim Brown the football player?

[@UKtoUSABrit]

@@AmirKhan-yv8jm yep.

[@JohnWick-mo4hm]

Who else felt annoyed when Jim Brown was constantly interrupted

[@mileshall3177]

Me

[@metaldad1967]

That is the tactic...keep talking, talk over, interrupt, shout down. Deflect, defy, deny....

[@metaldad1967]

Jim Brown showed INCREDIBLE class AND restraint. He held himself back when it seemed obvious that he wanted soooooo badly to break that racist jawjacking jackass' jaw. Any body else here that wanted to just grab chicken mouth by the collar and repeatedly slap the vocabulary from his ignorant ass?.....and this was over 40 years ago.

[@metaldad1967]

@@Nupesohard ?

[@Nupesohard]

metaldad1967 I’m agreeing with you.

[@blanth.]

Jim Brown has a serious amount out class throughout this clip, his patience is amazing. Lester, on the other hand should’ve had his rabies shots.

[@keyroncampbell]

😂😂😂

[@deidrekellogg9100]

ROTFLMAO!!!

[@elitiamatthews834]

🤣🤣🤣🤣☠

[@asumakiokumaru2087]

🤣🤣🤣😭😭

[@QbnAmCan]

Totally, i couldn't have put up with the hicks BS

[@willmeeker9225]

RIP, Cleveland Browns legend Jim Brown. This is my favorite highlight of his 💯

[@lol1985100]

And to this day it remains true ;the person who has to raise their voice, over talk, and interrupt the other in a conversation, is the real powerless person.

[@natashat9663]

Facts.

[@TkDatNinja]

well said!

[@Coproquim]

Disagree, raise your voice, but the first to shout loses

[@tragic8126]

I had to turn down my volume he kept pushing his voice in random frequencies and it hurt my ears 🤣

[@elitemangudai1016]

Hmm that's often true.

[@primejudicator7817]

"As you see fit." Nailed it.

[@adrienneflowersscott9290]

Exactly

[@Six2Times]

My fav part

[@smpeace2683]

Not so.

[@jordanduplechin7676]

Meanwhile, the constitution guarantees separation of church and state. Why is the governor answerable also to the church in shaping morals in government

[@roninwolf3347]

Not really. Actually not at all you racists

[@CamRebires]

Jesus Christ, the contrast between Lester's and Jim's patience hurts

[@potatoface6986]

@JESUS Loves you alot!! your vicarious redemption leads to acts of pure evil...committed under the banner of your perverse institution

[@skyscraper908]

@JESUS Loves you alot!! what if I say cheesus christ in front of my niece instead of jesus christ, and then do the cheeto dance flailing cheetos everywhere

[@skyscraper908]

@jet guy I'm doin it someday 😂

[@snorkey2462]

JESUS Loves you alot!! Jesus is a pervert like his followers

[@skyscraper908]

@@snorkey2462 yea there's a line and you crossed it lol, there's a difference between friendly banter and accusations

[@umitagis9508]

The fact that this man was elected as a governer says much about the U. S. and why Trump is the president.

[@kippakeppa1731]

And the record number of non-white people who voted for him.

[@mattblake5414]

I really wish I could have heard Jim finish his argument without being interrupted by Lester.

[@geraldtek]

Which interruption?🤔 There were many

[@michaela3891]

and that's exactly why Lester interrupted.

[@adamtzsch]

Michael A What?

[@shorddy1668]

adamtzsch Lester didn’t want Jim to be heard

[@jessickalush3305]

He talks at people, not with them

[@sleepinertiac]

Can I just say... I could listen to Jim Brown talk for hours cause his voice is so natural and calming. Maddox sounds like he's about to announce which horse is going to cross the finish line first, lol. It's like a relic of the past meeting the future.

[@grettapaisley2077]

Or a pig Race

[@demetriousjordan8715]

WOW. THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I KEPT THINKING THE ENTIRE VIDEO.

[@mikeoo7712]

Jim brown is the man! I know he’s old but let’s get that guy into the Oval Office!! FYI speaking for the whites ..we don’t claim Maddox . We need to handle our own when they get outta line, like in prison

[@johnnybgood774]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnnybgood774]

@vachief not ashamed dummy its acknowledgement

[@samie5856]

I wish we had unfiltered talk shows like this today.

[@karlcountry2363]

6AMER SAM podcast

[@samie5856]

@@karlcountry2363 True. But it isnt the same a prime time show being aired in every American home.

[@ermagonzales2779]

This is reality

[@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons]

That would be nice! So ppl can feel comfortable in having these conversations! We need change! Truth hurts but these conversations need to be had!

[@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons]

Karlcountry ! Yeah but not all ppl listen to podcast this needs to be a tv program type of discussion!

[@amrcnengineer]

it's embarrassing how not far we've come

[@Deuteromis]

And Trump made it public how these people want to turn it back.

[@StefanH-u4y]

What a dumb statement

[@Stinkybelal]

@@Deuteromislol what?

[@Stinkybelal]

If anything American has completely overcorrected with acts such as affirmative action, dei, esg, blm and black history month.

[@Deuteromis]

@@Stinkybelal You ask me what when you made a dumb statement about America overcorrecting? Dafq you smoking?

[@JonSnowIII]

I really, Really admire and respect Jim Brown’s patience and calm sitting right next to that piece of trash.

[@jperello001]

Stop calling that democrat governor trash.

[@funkogoodguy2613]

At that time, you should have patience. It would never work if you lose your patience quickly in situations like this.

[@Fazman81]

jperello001 You mean he was a Democrat?!? Lol

[@kerrygrace5150]

I think you need to educate yourself on the lives of both these men before you post such stupid an uneducated comments... Fool

[@palmer77thomas]

It's so important to know that you really, really admire and respect Jim Brown's patience. If we weren't sure that you were virtuous, now we can tell. So progressive of you. I thought it was especially patient of Jim when uttered thinly veiled threats of violence against an old man.

[@matthart4465]

I believe Jim Brown was trying his hardest to not knock that clown out.

[@Professional_street_hustler]

Killing em with kindness knocking him out would do nothing but prove stereotypes the guy probably has in his head

[@NotUrBiz]

@@Professional_street_hustler Jim Brown beat his wife. He's a stereotypical aggressive football player.

[@countrykang1996]

@@NotUrBiz intelligent too. You left that out..

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

@@NotUrBiz Not in this interview

[@rasenigmatik6709]

@@NotUrBiz shoulda beat that governor's forehead in

[@inco9943]

Jim Brown speaks cogently and with wit, he allows Maddox make himself look like the fool - very well played

[@deanwatt4838]

Your lying, he had nothing logical to reply. Instead of generalising, tell me something Maddox said that you find issue with and...... The moral peacocking isn’t a form logical dialogue, in actual fact it’s ugly

[@jonathanfrederick6966]

Dean watt in his white feelings cause a black knows what he is talking about

[@deanwatt4838]

@@jonathanfrederick6966 typical, still no logical rebuke, just ad hominem. You have issue with false power as you yearn for it. Strange, I ask you to make a logical point, your answer is to make it about colour. If your failing in life my friend, instead of blaming an entire race, take responsibility for yourself and judge a man by his character rather than the colour of his skin. Unless as I’ve already said your yearning for false power and want “white man”, to kiss your boots?

[@deanwatt4838]

@Starboy with a big ploy416 nothing burns my butt. However, I try and correct error when I see it. So unless you have an intelligent rebuke, self explanatory.

[@deanwatt4838]

@Starboy with a big ploy416 hahaha, you are a silly billy aren’t you? So again no actual rebuttal to the facts. Btw, I’m an English lower working class lad, born and bread in Newcastle upon Tyne. So any ideas of trust fund, is someone asking me to go to the shop with their lasts pennies for food. Still, I understand your prejudice, hopefully one day you can overcome your feminine nature, stop acting emotionally and think for yourself.

[@jamesnadell1998]

Trying to reason with an unreasonable person is like doing psychotherapy with a drunk patient. Can't be done.

[@Adybaba]

I don't like to correct you there because I do like the point you're making but when someone is under the influence is actually when the real issues they have arise

[@tiptip1191]

That governor was infuriated that a black man had the nerve to talk back.

[@ic5662]

No he was mad that black man was smarter than him he would of loved it if it was a ugly argument

[@Astrong417]

What did you watch?

[@baymax6894]

When Jim talked about white people like obedient black people when they wasn't aware... Well Jim just proved his point and that racist governor had no room to talk at that point and that's where he lost it.

[@baymax6894]

@Barbara Stamm incorrect. He said he follows the laws of God and state, which Jim pointed out , Whatever he felt. And he also mentioned about how segregation should be allowed.

[@dmans3617]

Barbara Stamm no one needs to ask where you stand

[@lmfd7373]

Jim Brown is a gentleman 100% pure class! You dont interrupt someone when speaking, loud, rude, obnoxious! Wont even give another man eye contact ...

[@dhart8451]

Jim Brown is a woman beater. Go read his history before you make a stupid comment unless you are a wife beater too.

[@Denbo777]

Your comment is stupid. IMHO so by your own logic what does that make you???

[@LuckyLean]

d hart 😭😭😭 imagine commenting that.

[@ibbydread6092]

LuckyLean after doing some research yes he’s right Jim brown is a violent person as they go

[@alw1268]

I love Jim Brown. He's a cool dude. He kept his composure the whole time.

[@jakedefa5095]

Yes he does. Why don't black men act like this anymore?

[@vincentfrusci7745]

Jacob Defa they still do. You just don’t see it all the time

[@ThisGuy76]

@@jakedefa5095, you aren't looking.

[@ThisGuy76]

@@vincentfrusci7745, you do if you're looking.

[@caramelkisses8396]

We always do!!!

[@brycepardoe658]

Lester Maddox is proof that Karen's have always been around.

[@JasonWalkerJamaica]

Facts!

[@mikemanners118]

why is he wrong? if white people are evil and oppressive as many black activists claim, why integrate?

[@reggiestarke437]

Karen's Fathers

[@steveurkel1487]

You're just mad he was talking circles around you boy

[@cognitionup5211]

Comment that should be pinned ten thousand times!

[@c.sharon8038]

Jim Brown showing EVERYONE what calm, cool & collected is REALLY about! ✊🏾

[@SupremeChimp]

I dunno about that. Doing some damage on those slacks for sure.

[@c.sharon8038]

@@SupremeChimp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@darrellcoutinho805]

🙌🏾

[@songbirdkia1]

Yup👌🏾, he surely showed what CCC is about. Based on that other “governor’s” behavior, I might have been short one or two C’s 🤣🤣🤣

[@c.sharon8038]

@@songbirdkia1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kinggelhardt8365]

"As governor do you follow the laws of god or the laws of the state" "Both" "As you see fit" Damn, that was very impressive from Brown, he absolutely smashes this clown in a very, calm and methodical way... It's completely off the cuff as well.

[@r.platnum3431]

Watched him pick that rock up, swing his sling and let it fly before he ever opened his mouth... Mental and physical giant!...

[@THELIONGUY1981]

😂😂😂😂

[@dennishardwick5727]

Right ✅😁😂🤣😅

[@stevehardeman7209]

Brown lived his life the same way , Maddox being a governor had the spotlight on him .

[@r.platnum3431]

@@stevehardeman7209 thats right... Cause nobody was looking at Brown... 😂... Wtf world do you live on??

[@DLloyd-bb4wk]

The way Jim Brown ever so smoothly took jabs at Governor is nothing short of ear candy. “As you see fit” 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@אהרון-כ2ס]

How is begging smooth?I? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@DLloyd-bb4wk]

@@אהרון-כ2ס point out the begging for us please? What exactly was being begged for?

[@אהרון-כ2ס]

@@DLloyd-bb4wk begging for acceptance by w'ite people, for integration, for respect and that dude wouldn't give him none.

[@DLloyd-bb4wk]

@@אהרון-כ2ס the “begging” for those things did not take place in this clip. What did take place in this clip along with the second part was Jim Brown remaining calm and poised while attempting a conversation with a racist man.

[@אהרון-כ2ס]

@@DLloyd-bb4wk The conversation was about segregation, the w'ite man wanted to keep it and Jim was begging about how we should be together. The w'ite man was right, integration was very harmful to us. Stop trying to love your oppressor.

[@brooklynfreeman4507]

RIP Jim Brown, he carried himself with so much class. The Governor kept talking over him being rude

[@tylerfoster2814]

The patience of Jim Brown throughout is beyond reproach

[@WhatnotChaser]

Lol yeah

[@alisterx8698]

With his body language hes really not that calm. his hands, he’s forcing his tongue between his cheeks you can see it and he’s looking up to the sky a lot that shows irritants

[@bingflosby]

Hes intelligent he is trying to convey a message so he has to remain calm hes very strong to resist the temptation to be more aggressive

[@mariamacebekhulu2629]

Well said

[@dejohntellis-oliver909]

@@alisterx8698 So that makes him not calm?... He was confident, in the face of continuing interruption

[@Kevin51611]

You’ll never see these types of conversations on tv anymore.

[@dalemsilas8425]

Good thing. That governor is a real idiot. It's Very Good thing we aren't talking about segregation today.

[@dalemsilas8425]

@David Gwin you can't even type a coherent sentence...yet you want to have conversations that shape our society. Educate yourself first.

[@PC.NickRowan]

@@dalemsilas8425 I think this comment may have gone over your head. The type of conversation they're having should be valued, for it is two individuals who are sitting down, and civily and politely having a respectful back and fourth conversation, involving listening, turn taking, and calm tones. No slander, no name calling, no avoidance of a conversation topic being had. Just two people sitting down, tryna have a conversation, figure things out and what eachother are thinking, and potentially come to agreements and disagreements, and try to further eachothers understandings and perspectives of the world around them, and how to solve lifes many problems.

[@mandelaeffect1111]

They’re illegal😉

[@dalemsilas8425]

@@PC.NickRowan : what are you saying? For this to be a conversation, you'd have to bring forth an idea. I'm Not going to listen to people to think segregationists should have voices. I repeat the governor was an idiot.

[@seansartor]

JB was smooth and poised. This is the shining example of how a professional athletes should use their platform.

[@angelawilliams479]

GTFOH!

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

@@angelawilliams479 What's the issue?

[@theteddy1487]

@@angelawilliams479 da fuq are you on about?

[@cemarz]

Jim Brown supported Ali not going to war. He also approved of kaepernick. But I suppose you know more about the guy you think knows what he's doing.

[@theteddy1487]

@@cemarz what are you going on about? You don't like the guy for supporting them?

[@tomthepro66]

My first time seeing this man Jim Brown. What a lovely, respectful and intelligent man. Solidarity to black Americans, the struggle continues.

[@02phenom]

This aired in 1970, I think it’s a shame our country is still having this debate in 2019.

[@ramheyhey]

No one is ha in this debate

[@buildthewallwiththewoke]

We will always be having this debate as long as there are Leftists in America that use race to divide and conquer people.

[@Crackmode119]

50 yrs later & MAGA

[@MrNorman1956]

As long as there are those who benefit from our division (on both sides of the debate), then the division will continue. One thing that people forget is that all the bigots back then were Democrats. They never changed their stripes (i.e.-Party) just the tactics.

[@BrianWardPlus]

It's crazy -- Maddox's defense of segregation is essentially based in the same horseshit the Republicans today are pitching about some kind of slippery slope to a totalitarian government, which is apparently why we can't have healthcare or gun control.

[@JW-uy2on]

You'd never see a sitting governor engage in such an informal, honest debate today. Politicians are all so rehearsed and phony now.

[@rushpittsburgh4]

No white people just had more liberty to say what they wanted back then. Plus he's from the South

[@Stormtrooper-oc4vn]

@@rushpittsburgh4 to a degree yes. This literlly happened 15 years after segregation so im not surprised people still have the ideology throughout the 70s and 80s.

[@blackout07blue]

honest debate? did you really just say that? Lol. That was a bunch of strawman arguments and red herrings. That was the least honest "debate" I have ever seen and reminds me of virtually every Republican politician in America. They're con artists.

[@ulture]

@@blackout07blue too many people mistake basic politeness for a valid, self-consistent ideology. There's a man on the bus who talks to himself, and he's unfailingly polite to the driver, but that doesn't mean he's right about the aliens monitoring his bowel movements.

[@kyleknott3672]

Nah people were just more openly proud to be racist lol

[@RickGibbonsOfficial]

"I try to include ALL people." -Dude who became famous for not serving black customers at the restaurant he owned.

[@miguellmoctezuma]

@Crazy Canuck sounds currently familiar

[@adamage1766]

It was all an excuse to interrupt and refuse to listen. The same strategy of the right for far too long and it's time to point it out and not accept it.

[@stevenbuckner8864]

ADamage 17 didn’t realize antifa was right wing and open to dialogue - news to me. 👎

[@adamage1766]

@@stevenbuckner8864 hyuk hyuk hyuk. What a stupid joke. That was the stupidest childish shit I've ever read.

[@MattMacedo85]

Antifa isn’t a racist bigoted group who demonizes Jews and immigrants and blacks. That’s the alt right and trump supporters Instead of owning up to you are a scumbag you are too coward to admit it

[@frazzle557]

Was reading in the Jim Brown obituaries about how he met with Trump during his presidency despite people asking Jim Brown to boycott the President. And then I remembered this clip and realized that Jim Brown had dealt with far worse before, and that this clip was probably part of why he had a willingness to meet with Trump after all

[@KazeShikamaru]

High patience for bullshit.

[@TheDCGuitar13]

I love how Jim brown let the governor embarrass himself and get triggered in his own rant and he calmly and systematically picked his arguments apart.

[@TheDCGuitar13]

arsenal0782 then while the governor is making emotional arguments along the lines of “I won’t force them to serve them, eat with them etc....the “low iq football player” cites actual law and made him look awful....

[@rn5598]

There’s something we could all learn from Jim here. I know I could. Patience and tranquility in the face of belligerence, disrespect and ignorance.

[@brandonk4477]

You must of watched a different video

[@dan4461]

"forced racial segregation is criminal and forced racial integration is criminal" what is wrong with that?

[@dan4461]

@@rn5598 the worst part is that i will be dying sooner than a lot of you fools, brainwashed and unable to think for themselves. i still hope to live for a bit, but i am not holding my breath about the way things will turn out

[@jamarfowler248]

It's crazy how the governor is using the same "all people" and "all lives" argument that is being used today.

[@dapper892]

Maybe there’s something to it… and btw, Lester is a democrat.

[@JasonWalkerJamaica]

Age old trope of racist people

[@LetBBB6345789]

The argument is certainly reasonable in general, but shouldn't be used to undermine the argument or interrupt the discussion about the particular inequality of black people (at the time) and which was at the center of that shows discussion. It was not clever of Jim Brown to insinuate things about the security guard. Otherwise however the governor's arguments are all weak. How can he believe no race is inferior and inequality is cruel yet insist on the freedom of people to avoid living/learning) working with people from another race? He accepts a differentiation where he says he does not want to see one. He also promotes a freedom of choice that does not exist in equal form for other relationships. If you go to a diner, you get served by the waiter, doesn't matter if you like the waiter. You can choose to go to another diner or not go at all but you do not choose the waiter and less on reasons of race.

[@Nobullshxt504]

They are trained well

[@slayaw99]

Actually it’s not crazy, those words are being used intentionally today and that why it’s called dog whistling.

[@TDrewCook]

The fact that people were applauding the points of Maddox stands out way more than anything else in this video

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Not surprised. It's the same way now as it was back then. Look at how many people blindly follow Trump.

[@kreed82]

It was the stuff about serving for your country. All Americans are suckers for that stuff.

[@isaacd35]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 yeah but there's a lot of Mexicans and blacks that support Trump too

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@isaacd35 I can guarantee you there were minorities back then who supported Maddox. This is what people usually call "Uncle Tom" etc...

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Go and live in Africa and see how they treat you

[@luisfl2895]

First time seeing Jim brown in this light made me proud to see him answer and rebutt this man's arguments in a intelligent and patient manner 👍👍 wow

[@Algorithm_work_your_magic]

I don´t mean to sound like a jerk but, just how many times have you heard Jim Brown speak? THIS is how he is, I love him with a ball or a microphone in his hand

[@navjitbassi03]

Yes he speaks so well. Its shocking. Im not black so have the same stereotypes as u

[@tylerspeier3161]

Jim Brown made a career of running through white dudes literally trying to bring him down

[@Subliminal01]

He made three word responses. Just ran right through him huh

[@tylerspeier3161]

Hudson Pierce well I was referencing football, I’m sorry, are you pro segregation?

[@jamesking5508]

baby killing murderers speak about abortion slaughter of innocent babies.....and the fact that democrats founded KKK and republican Abe Lincoln fought demonrats to free slaves...and democrat president Jimmie Carter's church....PLAINS BAPTIST CHURCH, PLAINS GEORGIA WOULD NOT ALLOW BLACKS IN HIS CHURCH.....CHECK OUT QUOTE FROM JIMMIE'S PASTOR SAYING "WE DON'T WANT AND N***S IN THIS CHURCH...SENTINEL NEWSPAPER QUOTE

[@kylewick3737]

Tyler Speier , The white politicians philosophy was similar to Marcus Garvey, he preached racial purity, to go back to Africa, develop science and a strong infrastructure, most of these rich football players , white and black are a bunch of perverts, they have too much money like politicians and they hang out at the same Satanic Parties! That's why they are cool with America! The Land of Slaves!

[@jamesking5508]

spoken like a true racist....don't forget white money pays theses guys to play games....Brown went white college....democratic president Jimmie Carter's church in Plains, Georgia the "Plains Baptist Church" would not allow blacks in his church..Jimmie's pastor said "we don't want any n****s in this church and blacks still voted democrat ; also democrats started KKK..now figure out who does their own thinking......Pelosi said "Trump must prove his innocence". what country she from and what constitution is she quoting?

[@UKBornin1971]

This is bearly 50 years ago, unbelievable

[@UKBornin1971]

@L. Dega Its still unbelievable

[@comradecommissar311]

Andre Akerele I think you mean barely. And yes I know it’s sooooo unbelievable people used to have a opinion that offend you... I

[@UKBornin1971]

@@comradecommissar311 Where in my post did I say I was offended, I'm still looking

[@UKBornin1971]

@L. Dega You can still speak openly and freely, what's stopping you. Ohhhhhhh, that's right, it's called consequences

[@UKBornin1971]

@L. Dega LMAOOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rjenkins23853]

Goodness, Mr Brown deserves our thanks for putting up with this crap on national tv and being strong enough to make his points without making personal assaults. True strength

[@gigismith1362]

Well he couldn’t make an assault on Maddox or he would’ve been seized right away by the police and locked up

[@kwikky22]

@@truthsocialmedia take off your tin hat.

[@truthsocialmedia]

kwikky22 denial deceit and delusion will only get you elected to Congress If a D is by your name. Also a water bottle could also be elected in a Democratic state with a D by its name.

[@claudiar7186]

LOL. I watched the entire clip and really fail to see a single thing Lester said that was in any way deplorable. Seems to me that everyone on here posting all these negative comments about the guy pretty much heard his southern accent and assumed his points to be blatantly racist without even listening. Where has critical thinking gone?

[@truthsocialmedia]

Claudia r the iq / critical thinking has really taken a back seat to indoctrination and group think

[@louistracy6964]

From UK, my first encounter with Jim Brown, Hugely impressive man.

[@dioncherry9612]

I never knew how CORRECT Jim Brown was. My father always painted him in a negative light when I was a child when in fact, he was a MAN among boys.

[@AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo24]

YES!!!💯

[@dmariots]

Dion you should listen to your father. Jim Brown is being manipulative. Have you ever had someone provoke you by saying something stupid and then smiling when you get mad.

[@kidmack1121]

He has his faults, along with being the best ever. Your father may have been reacting to Brown's alleged mysogyny.

[@dmariots]

Because people sound good or look good when they say something doesn't mean it is good.

[@2phonesss]

@@dmariots what do you consider to be stupid in regard to what Jim Brown said?

[@TrevX2001]

“ you want to talk about black people, why don’t we talk about all people ... not just black people “ never heard that one before ....

[@MrTravolta24]

Was just about to say this!!! This is years later in 2020 and the racists are still going up about "All lives matter" vs. "Black lives matter". They simply can't (or are unwilling to) accept the point behind the words "Black lives matter". Nothing has changed. Wow.

[@lilchickennugget8155]

Sounds just like the " All lives Matter" nuts..just brainless!

[@Ballinbmac]

@@MrTravolta24 the problem with us (black people) we try to prove to racist that they are racist

[@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301]

@Donna Laino how many non-black people do you know who were shot/killed by non-white cops?

[@jakespicer2775]

@@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 shutup you idiot

[@adamtzsch]

Invading Vietnam wasn’t “fighting for your country”. Same as Iraq. Same as Afghanistan.

[@carlosshiota8827]

So true...

[@dinotrupielbranoll3427]

You dont know what youre saying ... research what those are really about if you care

[@dinotrupielbranoll3427]

So Creativecat I guess you will never know since you depend on a strangers comment. Go read . I'm not your private history teacher

[@adamtzsch]

Dinot Rupiel Branoll I know exactly what I’m saying. And you’re saying precisely *nothing*

[@dinotrupielbranoll3427]

adamtzsch I have no clue what your point is

[@abdulsharif6541]

Salute to Brother Jim Brown, May He Rest In Peace and Power

[@motomweusi836]

Prime example of how to expose ignorance. BROTHERS, Don't get mad , "try" to stay calm because most times they try to upset you, so that articulating your point will be all but impossible. Stay calm because once you loose it ? No one really wants to hear your point and staying calm makes it easier to expose their ignorance, works everytime.

[@MohamedHassan-ni6un]

My broda ... Mr. Brown ✊🏿

[@anthonyteague752]

Well said brother. I couldn't agree more.

[@mudkatt2003]

@adam riddle i mean, segregation was kinda about black folks lol

[@motomweusi836]

@Dakota Martin very well stated, I won't forget that . 😎👏

[@mutalix]

*WE*

[@dominicmeese5105]

Mr. Brown held himself very well quite the gentleman

[@brooksfleming6061]

Monica Meese Where did this come from? Lol. That old white man was hilarious. But even back then Jim exposed that fact that blacks are far more intelligent than we get credit for.

[@Fordarktimes]

🍒

[@m.alexanderzagorski3868]

Exactly! Mr.Brown is the quintessential American!

[@XX-tq1oe]

Un-related but Extra Super cool picture

[@donaldtrump1008]

Didnt he.

[@tylercohen3278]

Didn't realize 'all lives matter' was this old of a reactionary arguement...

[@lcb-]

What wrong with that?? are you endorsing the genocide of white people as usual??

[@insme]

@@lcb- How could you think so narrowly?

[@DeepztBlu]

@Hugh Ropp Perhaps they should modify their slogan to clarify that "all lives cannot matter until black lives also matter". Will you be happy then?

[@stax5ave380]

Why are white people so sensitive..you guys are at the top of the fucking world!!!!!

[@stantondinger5836]

The way they word stuff comes and goes and then comes back again. Racism is learned it's not something you are born with like your skin color or gender. You have no choice over your skin color or gender, but you do have a choice about being a racist or hating a thing/person.

[@clarenceworley3714]

"As you see fit" The power of that statement at that time in history was powerful.

[@HappinessinYourLife]

This was a master class in how to not let someone get under your skin and come out on top, making your points intelligently and having them be heard. Jim Brown is an inspiration in the most literal definition of the word.

[@Schiff252]

Or one could identify the negative opportunity cost of debating with a human representation of all logical fallacies within that billy bob backwards flyover country yokel and save your energy for tasks truly worth your while. Don’t ever try to rationalize with an irrational person

[@HappinessinYourLife]

@@Schiff252 I don't think the yokel mattered. He was making an impression and communicating with the audience. That mattered a lot. And decades later we are still the audience.

[@lamonlovejr5778]

Factz

[@RC-ht8bl]

Jim Brown lost the moment he insinuated violence. And I hate Les Nessman and all his ilk, but that's just how I see it.

[@jamesbell9164]

Yes he did AMEN

[@ChazielSunz]

This is 1970 wow. We haven't come that far really.

[@SixActStructure]

Yeah man. It's recent history

[@GG8476]

Sad but true.

[@greedybam318]

Not at all

[@DoctorOreos]

That's the thing. The governor in his head believes this is how the USA should be ran. Jim Brown on numerous occasions tried to tell him it is not equal in the USA, yet the governor didn't want to hear it. 2021, many white Americans don't believe the inequality is true, thankfully it's not the majority, but its enough that can swing an election.

[@liteitupcali]

50 years ago

[@kenneth804]

You know somebody is pissed when they do random stuff like brush and pick non existent lint off their pants. 😂

[@RobertJBarnes]

Yeah, but it was stupid to retreat behind his physicality, and "reputation," just because he was frustrated in the argument. That was disappointing to see Brown lower himself. Lester Maddox, while rigid, was essentially making a solid conservative/libertarian argument that a rising tide lifts all boats. The dumb audience seemed to assume he was racist. The truth is that he rejects intersectional politics and its inherent soft bigotry. There was nothing radical about him except he was a few decades ahead of his time. He makes the kind of argument Thomas Sowell or Rand Paul make.

[@nrcg2317]

@@RobertJBarnes Clearly, Mr. Brown was appalled at what he was hearing. If Brown had expressed views of that nature, he would have been incarcerated. Conversely, after all his racist rhetoric and violence, Maddox was elected governor. You are presenting his racist views as those libertarians. Unreal!!!

[@RobertJBarnes]

@@nrcg2317 I challenge you to provide one quote, just one, of something Maddox said that was racist. Good fucking luck.

[@jeffsamuels2539]

R J were you paying attention at all? Jim Brown has always fought for civil rights smh physicality had nothing to do with it. You missed the bus on that one.

[@jeffsamuels2539]

Kenneth Webb crazy that doesn't fit into the "stereotype" of when black peoples get angry lol

[@sixpackchad]

I don't think Lestor Maddox is racist. He sounds more like a libertarian. He believes in complete freedom of association. I don't see anything wrong with that.

[@emmanuelmoses7249]

The Governor's stance on Ali refusing to fight for America is the same ignorant rhetoric many Americans today use...They can't look at the country outside of their own perspective.

[@Shiwayne]

A country that they also stole from the original people

[@rasenigmatik6709]

@@Shiwayne KAN! Big Facts

[@rickardkaufman3988]

@RED PILL PORTAL You do know Malcolm X was a socialist?

[@thesprawl2361]

Jim Brown demonstrated incredible restraint and dignity. He was so far ahead of the other guy in every respect it was embarrassing.

[@truthsocialmedia]

The Sprawl virtue signalling liberals are a mental disease. Go to Colin Flaherty on KZbin, Twitter, minds.com to the wildly out of proportion black on white murder, rape and violence currently hidden by the MSM and Democratic Party in denial deceit and delusion.

[@thesprawl2361]

@@truthsocialmedia Yawn

[@davidavila2939]

@@truthsocialmedia people of color are also more likely to be arrested for anything than white people. People of color also have been wrongfully imprisoned more than white people. Difference is when a white person commits a crime they are given help, people of color are not. Also white folks are always more sympathetic to each other and claim things like mental instability. You give statistics that are designed to misinform and justify cruelty against minorities.

[@mstrychessboxn3520]

Clint Peitsch you funny hahaha. Stupid ass

[@deepdish2034]

@@truthsocialmedia so you justify the actions of the police with those of criminals and don't see the irony in that?

[@moemitch1900]

Jim running his fingers along his thigh is his way of keeping himself from running through this man the way he ran through them tackles. This conversation is so telling. Jim is a legend.

[@cheryljones5020]

He is a Truly Superstrong Man. Not many would have respectfully let all those disrespectful interruptions and comments slide. Proud, I Am.

[@ChicagosM0stWanted]

Cause his hands 🙌🏽 are tied!! He’d be lynched during this time!!

[@moemitch1900]

@Bilbo Baggins Sooo him actually controlling himself led you to believe that he has low levels of it? Got it. Makes a ton of sense.

[@KtotheG]

@@moemitch1900 That dude is ignorant just like the governor... fear is what controls these guys.

[@m.zagorski2557]

Moe,Jim's the G.O.A.T.

[@AngelsMa]

I moved to Atlanta from Ohio in 1979 and had never heard of Lester Maddox before - heard him on a radio program and couldn't believe what I was hearing.

[@raybo632]

This is why GOD SAYS " be slow to speak and quick to listen"

[@liz8crtravis670]

That's the reason the Bible tells us not to argue with a fool. Mr. Brown continously stated that he was not there to argue but simply to discuss. Mr. Brown was composed and very patient as well as polite.

[@ijustwatchyt]

this is my new favorite quote

[@thesouthernerwithadhd2710]

What does the rest of that verse/the verses around it, say?

[@fuhquelol]

God also condoned Slavery, soooo..maybe "God" isn't a very reliable source to get your morality from. JUSSAYIN lol..

[@useyournogos6845]

@@fuhquelol No he didn't, people used God, among other things such as science, to condone slavery. No where in the bible is slavery condoned.

[@NewMadrid01]

Jim’s patience with that clown is incredible.

[@outsidethepyramid]

Dick Cavett was ok in my opinion.

[@caponekingpinking9917]

I thought you would see a clown at a circus

[@realkoko-loco]

Donald Lusk Muhammad Ali was the same. Always getting attacked by racists and he bought a calm intellect that made his racist attackers look even more stupid. I’m sure Mr. Brown was following his lead. Many people learned from the likes of Dr. King and Ali. It’s always fascinating to watch. It’s a masterful ...almost art form to converse in such a way as to let your foe knock them self out. The conversational rope a dope!

[@Portland4114]

Donald Lusk you see using degrading berating names is the problem with today. These two argued and debated and it was mature and civil. I hope you see a little what I am mentioning after the “clown” statement.

[@itdontmeannothingnotathing3385]

Pity his patience wasn't that good when he beat his wife

[@fhackman5863]

Jim Brown damn near rubbed a hole in his slacks to keep from hauling off on dude😂🤣

[@Nat0528]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i literally hollered with this comment

[@fhackman5863]

@@jeoffbarrat1101 Key words, WOULD HAVE been. Looks to me Jim knew it was no contest. Plus if you look at HIStory, is clear to see who doesn't like fighting fair smh

[@icelandiccubicle3418]

He was about to go Mars Attacks on his ass, Jim Brown is one of the baddest men in the history of the NFL.

[@theonlysethgarden8915]

I just kept looking at his hands the whole time. He was a great example of how to stay cool and reasonable despite one's emotions. Reason: he had facts.

[@Alixxusa]

@@jeoffbarrat1101 uh oh jeff your letting your racist beliefs show

[@patricknoble3090]

I've never heard Jim Brown before (I'm not American). Wow what an impressive guy.

[@LordCK_DC]

That "as you see fit" was a ko

[@ggbaptiste3644]

He is crazy & rude, he just doesn't see what black people have and still going through. He has taken over the show wow!!🤣😅

[@JustMe-xz2bz]

No kidding, I've always enjoyed Mr. Brown's work, but never imagined him as a racist.

[@davoiceofreason7]

I thought the same as soon as he spoke it !

[@ementormike]

No, it is about the constitution and laws that are made that are consistent with the constitution; that the Governor was rightly advocating for. So, the as you see fit jibe, was a verbal below the belt cheap shot personal attack on what appears to be a very prominent and honorable person, the Governor of Georgia, and any referree worth being a referree, would deducted a point for such a below the belt cheap shot. Any unbiased observer of facts, in this discussion, would see the Governor was right in what he said and clearly and factually and decisively refuted everything the other guest said, by the boxing analogy you used, it was either a KO or a TKO; when, near the end of this clip the guest; that took repeated swipes at the Governor and repeatedly swung and missed, only to take a hard counterpunch; until he was barely standing up by holding onto the ropes and pleading with the referee or host of the show to end the round; before the inevitable counterpunch could be delivered.

[@ganiniii]

@@ementormike you could be my lawyer.

[@casualplaya3848]

He sounds like Dave Chapelle when he acts as a KKK member 😂😂😂

[@DJaydoubleA]

there’s a reason the voice exists 😂

[@mattbarr6084]

Lmaoooo

[@mauricewright3219]

Very good one lol

[@AaronHatcher]

i mean he was kkk. it's known

[@horrorstateofmind2724]

He was a Democrat

[@Azvd824]

i love how cavett doesn’t interrupt and let’s them talk

[@dave93x]

@Sugar Belle definitely. Could you even imagine Kimmel hosting this interview? My god.

[@BoxingGOATEdits]

Dick Cavett is low-key cool for making this happen

[@rustecohle591]

“They like them when they’re very humble and quiet”...I felt that...

[@mazzb305]

Patrick Conners His idea of black humility is willing black subjugation and faux civility in the face of oppression. He's an idiot.

[@meme4013]

Should he prefer loud and arrogant?

[@rustecohle591]

Grimaldous ....I didn’t think I’d have to spell it out but I guess I have to...there’s an unconscious bias for minorities, especially black people especially in the working environment to lower themselves or make themselves smaller to their white counterparts in order to “fit in”...You have a point yes ideally most people would prefer a humble and quiet person depending on the environment...but more often than not when white people are engaged in opposite behaviour the punishment is usually severely less if there’s even a punishment at all...unless you’re black you won’t understand the experience of racial micro aggressions and biases

[@meme4013]

@@rustecohle591 yes I know I was being pedantic, I know what you meant. I apologise. But, you do know that Marcus Garvey had the answer to solve all these problem in the fragmented society that has been pushed.

[@mazzb305]

Grimaldous The "answer" was simple from the start. If America was serious, they would've paid the freed slaves reparations, gave them a state, and left them be. But then they wouldn't have been able to continue the racial exploitation that built this nation.

[@jeffreykatz1330]

'WHO IS JIM BROWN' the greatest football player ever and Jim Brown Muhammad Ali and Bill Russell used their status to Foster change.

[@SwagDonkeyGaming]

Like Colin Kaepernick

[@checkoutmyplaylist6047]

Bill should of been on the nba jersey ,who else has 13 rings

[@bobkebob9980]

I don't think Ali believed in forced integration.

[@scottdavidson7001]

Didn't work. Blacks do not UNITE.

[@user-br5lo7xl4u]

@Debra Turner how you know he is racist?

[@xopinkieox]

We should all aspire to be as smart, calm and collected as jim.

[@MrHelp-yd4kn]

i know a lot of stuff, i have to believe, brown was paid, to just play this

[@oliviablackburn3907]

I wish I could be like him. Really.

[@oliviablackburn3907]

@Matt Turner I can't speak for everyone else but I admired how he handled the situation. When I'm around a racist idiot like that I get frustrated quickly.

[@babymantuck3256]

Damn I can't be "as smart, calm and collected as Jim" with my boss who is stupid but thinks he's smart. And we are both black, lol.

[@SumalaJarawie]

I am from a black country of Papua New Guinea in the pacific. I salute Mr Brown for his patience. You gave us black people strength. Thank you

[@mahmudchowdhury7557]

Lestor Maddox is no different from a lot of politicians of today.

[@HariKrishnan-ec5mn]

Not really. He was just plain horrible. If he did that today, he will be toast. Unless he was somewhere in deep red.

[@kamuelalee]

The GOP...or what's left of it.

[@thefrase7884]

@@kamuelalee .....umm....Maddox was a democrat

[@kamuelalee]

@@thefrase7884 Okay...but today, the GOP is racist.

[@sassiea36]

@@thefrase7884 Today he'd be a Republican.

[@robtk3]

Mr. Brown is just as calm, cool and collected as a man of class can be while the governor is attempting to make arguments with the cohesiveness of a pile of sawdust.

[@bowilliam3865]

This an underated comment

[@cookiecuteasapuppy1008]

😂🤣😂🤣👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@NotUrBiz]

Your "man of class" is a wife beater.

[@DJBANnumb3r1]

@@NotUrBiz what does that have to do with this video

[@beerhe]

America needs more Jim Browns. He handled himself like a MAN!

[@Provemewrongwithfacts]

@@beamersbeamer6514 Go f yourself, victim!

[@emericas9]

Theriokid lol u must be scared

[@beamersbeamer6514]

Carl Morgan really because all he did was grunt. I am sure his mom and dad would be ashamed of him supporting a sick racist

[@beamersbeamer6514]

Theriokid we are all victims of the orange psycho. You are just to stupid to recognize it

[@beamersbeamer6514]

Carl Morgan I hate poc who worship racist. What dumb kind of question is that?

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

Lester Garfield Maddox Sr. (September 30, 1915 - June 25, 2003) was an American politician who served as the 75th governor of the U.S. state of Georgia from 1967 to 1971. A populist Southern Democrat, Maddox came to prominence as a staunch segregationist[1] when he refused to serve black customers in his Atlanta restaurant, the Pickrick, in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He later served as a lieutenant governor under Jimmy Carter.

[@MelanatedHomesteadher]

😮

[@cloudstrife206]

Jim Brown is so intelligent and articulate compared to that loud mouth governor

[@arijit020]

???

[@shootr1303]

That governor was right on every point. And don't think I'm racist or anti-civil rights. I fought for civil rights in the 60s. I always thought it was wrong of the government to force black kids to go to white schools for example. That was the kind of integration being forced on people by the government. It was wrong. Those kids should have been able to go to school where they lived or where they wanted to go. It isn't up to the government to force them to go elsewhere. THAT is the kind of forced integration that governor was addressing. I saw blockbusting in the NORTH and I thought it was terrible. But this is America and people can and will live where they want. Blacks were allowed to move into white neighborhoods to bust the blocks and white people were allowed to move to the suburbs which they did. As awful as I think that was it was their right because we have this thing called freedom and it isn't up to the government to FORCE anything on us. I respect Brown's POV but he was wrong here. BTW my son is married to a wonderful black woman that I love to death. They are about to have my first grandchild and I can't wait. So spare me your sanctimonious declarations of what my views are before you bother spewing.

[@gerrywhelan5761]

@@shootr1303 So did troops put guns to the backs of black children and forced marched them to those school, or was it that they were given the free choice to go to any school regardless of their skin colour, like all advanced western countries do today, why do Americans have such problems with those issues while we in Europe do not!

[@cloudstrife206]

Shootr you are a racist piece of shit stfu

[@davegreene8588]

Compared to Mad Motormouth Maddox, Jim Brown is William Shakespeare, James Earl Jones, and Ronald Colman rolled into one!