LET'S ARGUE: TDE Is a Dying Label

Other topics include T-Pain's recent rant, and Spellling not being a great singer.
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[@haughtygarbage5848]

Let's acoustic guitargue

[@dziko1661]

thats a classical guitar

[@deftfkaubgup4669]

It sounded like a bastardized version of Disarm

[@kike6359]

absolutely insane comment

[@slavojdyrdek]

Ascended comment

[@marioi.carrillo6264]

acustic gitar

[@longdicklamar8674]

Let’s argue: the total drama theme song is the perfect representation of the 2000’s pop punk era and is a better example than any song MGK can try to make today.

[@woozie40]

I agree fellow brother

[@yuuneey]

Completely agree

[@nocturnalpisces1299]

I keep seeing pictures of megan fox everywhere and I DONT CARE

[@potassium49]

Agree

[@untitled3426]

I agree

[@nordaj_]

tde just need to let their artists drop their music ffs

[@perplexed1783]

Or Maybe the artists just don't wanna drop

[@nordaj_]

@@perplexed1783 sza has complained multiple times that tde wouldn’t let her drop. isaiah i’m ok with cause 1 we have a release date and 2 he’s been dealing with substance abuse issues. kendrick idk fr

[@WhatSmada]

@@perplexed1783 nah TDE is trying to be very calculative with their drops...i generally don't agree but what do i know...They don't drop zay because of Tyler but instead drop it same day as Billy? smh

[@camjohnson5517]

@@WhatSmada this is the most hyped zay album thus far. His audience is fuckin huge considering he hasn’t dropped since 2016. Kinda nuts to think ab

[@b.h.thebadass8107]

Isaiah Rashad said in an interview that the issue isn't the label and it's more so the artist. im assuming that means the album isn't the quality it needs to be to be released yet or the artist isn't ready to drop.

[@Max25670]

I can’t believe we got Kanye dropping Donda before Kendrick has dropped anything at all.

[@FN_Kibs]

Quality > quantity. Kendrick DO be laggin on the album tho no doubt

[@godinmdo1345]

oh boy i gotta tell u something

[@joedorben3504]

Kanye might not even drop Donda though

[@sherwintavarez8539]

Ye, KSG, Jesus Is King and Donna are gonna drop before Kendrick has dropped

[@codeman1726]

@@joedorben3504 there’s a livestream rn of the album. shits coming

[@ZyxthePest]

T-Pain's rant was definitely directed at the majority of Soundcloud rappers that use the same production as three or four artists as inspiration and I totally get that. Honestly, I share the frustration. There's probably some amazing new artists buried under the massive amounts of copycats out there.

[@sicroyalty]

Exactly, not a lot of variation in beats or instrumentals, flows and delivery or getting kinda samey. I think all he said was "make something different"

[@learn2xpand862]

Look up JMSN- Rolling Stone he’s super underrated

[@kristianrichardson576]

Yes

[@thatboymeak]

Lol did you even listen to what Pain said? It has nothing to do with the producers, it’s the artists and what they want, which the producers give them. Look at all of old hip hop, its always been a handful of producers running it.

[@Masterdeber]

@@learn2xpand862 JMSN is that shit 🔥🙌🏼

[@hojirick]

Guitar intro was unironically great music, including the warped ending

[@Evanmnm]

Let’s agree

[@perplexed1783]

I.... And everyone agrees

[@augustoalvarez6766]

Now I am going to disagree, just to be that guy

[@ravenkliff]

Very close to Closer To The Heart by Rush

[@ricochetsixtyten]

Have you never heard an acoustic guitar?

[@Tgatx1996]

Totally forgot ab soul been in hibernation for the last 5 years lmao

[@steadyrotation2290]

Ab Soul in his TDE Medical Machine, waiting to go super saiyan

[@J.5.M.]

We need lyrical, third eye Ab Soul back 👁👁 Not money & hoes Ab Soul

[@b.h.thebadass8107]

@@J.5.M. wym? These Days... and Do What Thou Wilt had third-eye Soulo slathered all over.

[@voicelessv9364]

I was hoping he you drop something this year. He's usually drops ever 4 years.

[@hbkavnish]

He teased an album to be released this year

[@vikashv1]

Let's agree: when Anthony says "Not good" the explosion effect should play.

[@k-leb4671]

And then Nostalgia Critic shows up with a gun.

[@fawh7]

@@k-leb4671 The critic the shoots the at a wall, but then walks over and pretends to punch it down, causing a perspective issue.

[@YaleStewartArt]

Was that TDE bit the longest response in Let's Argue history? It was legit like 3 min long.

[@steadyrotation2290]

What can we say, we come up w dope ass topics and flex on the TL for content

[@kingmucho4839]

@@steadyrotation2290 this semi promo

[@steadyrotation2290]

@@kingmucho4839 yeah we're really subtle with it i guess. but all in all, TDE needing to step their game up warrants 3+ minutes of discussion. luckily we gave it more than 20 minutes

[@poperaisin]

I think he once talked about veganism for like 10 minutes

[@kingmucho4839]

@@poperaisin on what video

[@ambrizfer7898]

Tde probably has the best talent but no recent music to show for it.

[@steadyrotation2290]

Crossing our fingers for Rashad honestly, we still have faith

[@blahblahblah9267]

Somebody in management dropping the ball

[@taLLdavidproduction]

Griselda

[@QuadryHolloman]

@@blahblahblah9267 it's the artists it has nothing to do with Top. Stop just saying anything.

[@cheekybananaboy3361]

@@QuadryHolloman what?

[@sleekysnizz4097]

A Black Hippie album would be legendary. But dreams are just dreams.

[@arthurdunn4594]

If you want some Black Hippy content, there's some throwaway albums on Spotify that they put up there quietly over the last couple years, just random bits of this and that which never made it to an actual album.

[@flynnexe]

@@arthurdunn4594 nah all the tracks were previously released on TDE albums, they're just compilations.

[@kc.21k]

This is just Fantano’s way of saying that we need Kendrick back

[@perplexed1783]

So he could give him another 7

[@joedorben3504]

We don't. We shouldn't care if he drops again or not. Plenty of great artists out rn. Let the man live.

[@kc.21k]

@@shaheedmorwe3282 what do you mean “shoot you down”?

[@kc.21k]

@@shaheedmorwe3282 if your an artist you need to have rough skin. Kendrick is not the type of person who cries on the internet when they get a bad review. He just takes more time to make better music. That’s why from Section 80 to To Pimp a Butterfly got better ratings

[@ttarkus]

Nah I want Soul

[@pookie7119]

Saying "back end" and "hard finish" in the same sentence got me looking at melon differently

[@Drogon7102]

Dont do the hard finish on melons back end please.

[@leeswift7883]

The fist movement while saying hard finish didn't help either

[@txhxexgxaxmxe]

Speckled Stone Plate Ring is underrated I appreciate that

[@pookie7119]

@@txhxexgxaxmxe ayyy ty brother

[@TheRighteousDawn]

@@txhxexgxaxmxe Lmao I was trying to think which ring this was, I thought it was Ring of Sacrifices tbh XD

[@therush420]

TDE is going the way of Odd Future, where you have one legitimate superstar, another who isn’t as big but highly respected as a lyricist, then just a bunch of other people hanging around until the split.

[@austinkrogstie615]

Hodgy was a very slept on rapper, Mellowhype made great projects in my opinion. And Left Brains production was phenomenal

[@capt.jaylenbrown8534]

i know this isnt the point of the comment, but i believe frank and tyler are both legitimate superstars, and earl takes the place of the “highly respected lyricist”

[@exotic_blitz7747]

@@capt.jaylenbrown8534 frank is isaiah rashad or sza. he’s obviously better but in the sense that he hasn’t dropped in 6 years

[@jacksonelvis3691]

to be fair, sza is now getting bigger than kendrick

[@dcat65]

There was a point in time when I thought every song ended in a fade out

[@alldogsgoheaven]

Lol yea I forgot I used to think that too

[@calliope_x3]

Kanye has dropped FOUR DAMN ALBUMS since Kendrick's last solo album.

[@theromakepe4318]

One thing I miss about TDE is how connected I used to feel to them as a fan overseas. Before 2014-ish, we used to get a lot more vlogs, free music, and freestyles when they were on the come up. As someone who can't go to shows, it helped make up for that. But I understand we'll never get back to that, but I think this take is a bit over-reactionary. Their roster is so talented, and the label has high expectations and a standard they will continue to deliver.

[@TimJorgensen850]

Melon, you can't call TDE a Dying Label just because Kendrick and all the other artists haven't dropped in like 4 years

[@perplexed1783]

It's Almost Alive my dear friend AlmostAlive

[@itsallenwow]

I would actually say that qualifies to be a dead label imo

[@operationd--msday]

@@itsallenwow yes, that's the joke!

[@noglo5355]

Wait let me try! Melon, you can't call TDE a Living Label just because Kendrick and all the other artists haven't dropped in like 4 years

[@corncake4677]

I feel like you made this joke just in reference to the title but that’s basically the point the tweet he was responding to made and Anthony agreed

[@brianhlp30]

Soul doesn’t care about relevance. I feel like that’s a common denominator with tde. I think they focus more on the quality of the projects, and not the hype. They just got a lot more popular than they intended from the jump. Hope they can continue it tho, I rock w em

[@eliedocteur909]

They will continue and also you had the most common sense answer that I've in these comments. We act like covid didn't happen. Like these artists have families. I'm pretty sure they're working hard in the the studio. If you are a real tde fan, you that they take they're time with their projects. That's why there albums are so good. It's about quality not quantity 👌

[@Ayeee155]

TDE would be in a better place if they’d drop more. It’s a solid roster. Schoolboy for example could launch back into relevance and even favor with a project that’s solid, promising, or good. I miss Ab-Soul too.

[@fakeoutdoorsy]

Coming back to this one after the recent Kendrick news

[@thomasdugan4155]

SiR is firm for TDE, moving forward I trust he can give a project in that period worth replaying

[@MrMonopolistic]

THANK YOU, FINALLY FOUND THE COMMENT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR

[@GTBreezy]

Sir is super slept on tho

[@watto9361]

"Schoolboy shot his shot, and it was not great." Okay yeah fine, Crash Talk wasn't his best album. But Q deserves more respect on his name, some of y'all just act like Oxymoron and Blank Face LP never happened. Dude 100% still has it in him, I really don't get why people discount him.

[@iansmart4158]

And Crash Talk is a dope record.

[@jamesstrange5303]

Bruh he made his money and is chillin now, he was good 5yrs ago, borderline irrelevant now.

[@mcmcnair97]

We forgetting that Q also had some fire features in the last 12 months. He just needs to be pushed to work with some new producers rather than stay with whats been successful before

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

People talking like this BECAUSE Oxymoron and Blank Face happened. Crash was below his standard. It was good, just not enough.

[@James-op3vx]

Blank Face LP - Cult Classic Oxymoron - Streets Classic facts

[@ryuman757]

"I'll never fade away. I'll NEVER fade away. I know my fate." Best fade-out I've heard. I had to take a break and walk around my job when I heard that the first time 'cause I was losing my shit.

[@corncake4677]

ingenious way to make that part so genuinely tragic imo

[@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy6]

AND FAAAAAAAAAAAADE OUT AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN

[@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy6]

@Jenerator 1 Scream as they fight for life, I can feel death…CAN SEE ITS BEADY EYES

[@jonnypferdeschwanz7479]

_sing about me im dying of thirst_ is the best song on GKMC and runs in competition of _how much a dollar cost_ and _mortal man_ for kendricks best song ever i think

[@SteeZy644]

@@jonnypferdeschwanz7479 honestly it’s probably his best song period in terms of lyrical substance

[@MysticalTy]

this whole "drop once every 3-5 years" shit is getting old. SZA is a HUGE Pop Star, you don't not let her release music for 4yrs.

[@swaythekid]

Facts

[@gangstamack8397]

Sza dropped a single and it automatically charted on top 10 billboards

[@_PuppetMaster86]

Classical guitar is replacing Anthony’s bass. I’m calling it.

[@RozKounelakion]

Bad bet imo

[@muesalsa]

its a classical guitar...

[@_PuppetMaster86]

@@muesalsa Damn it. I should’ve already known that since I own a classical-electric guitar. Thanks.

[@muesalsa]

@@_PuppetMaster86 no problem

[@scusachannel1682]

Noooooooooo

[@yunglaff666]

"TDE is a dying label" no it's a suiciding label

[@JaMorantBiggerArm]

@AJ But that's the thing, Kendrick ain't dropping

[@steadyrotation2290]

Someone get Logic to help Punch out

[@jeffreyandia5179]

@AJ Shes not one of the biggest artists right now tf? All her buzz went to Doja Cat. It's not like she NEEDS to drop every year but damn, when was her last feature besides Kiss Me More? I honestly can't recall and that's the thing, when NO ONE on her label is dropping, there's not enough songs to appear on

[@nickjones5495]

@@jeffreyandia5179 bruh. Good Days topped the charts for weeks ..

[@maybehere_]

@@jeffreyandia5179 good days was a stable hit

[@emc333]

TDE doesn’t push their other artists.

[@niceockman8993]

Last time they pushed an artist was Reason and look how that turned out

[@steadyrotation2290]

True. They're way too top heavy. But we're already seeing it w Q, the top side of the roster isn't going to last forever. Kendrick will be the last one standing but he shouldn't be the one to carry the label

[@infer426]

@@steadyrotation2290 I mean not really they’re smart in how they roll out artist. They roll out 1 at a time the issue is that most of them wait so long to release

[@steadyrotation2290]

@@infer426 You know what, you could be right. Maybe 3-4 years down the line, New Beginnings might be the cornerstone album for TDE and Reason will pop off. Will that happen though. Maybe, maybe not but guess we'll have to see

[@cgvanheerden4190]

Sir was pushed in 2019 and he's subtly growing in popularity, once his 2nd project comes out he'll be in the front runners or at least the 2nd tier

[@slavojdyrdek]

TDE needs a gamechanger? Hmm, does Cal still rap?

[@geezPJ]

One year later and that is still the ugliest shirt I've ever seen.

[@ThePsychoRenegade]

TDE the best label that never drops anything. Top needs to get it together.

[@TheCarribeanCat]

Hey Anthony! I'm one of the people who helped shape the Vapor tree on RYM and I wanted to answer some questions and shed some light on why it exists. First off - we didn't invent the term vapor. It's never been a massively popular term, but it is a term that has been used to mean what we say it means by a decent amount of people for a long time. Just wanted to make that clear right off the bat. Anyways, as far as WHY it's a thing - it's a consequence of RYM's genre system. RYM's genre tree isn't just a map of genres, but specifically a functional system of parentage where genres that are listed as subgenres of another show up on charts and in catalogs as part of that genre. As such, genres HAVE to also be their parent genre in at least the vast vast vast majority of cases. This has led to problems, particularly with regard to the placement of genres likes utopian Virtual, dreampunk, and future funk. These are genres that a lot of people would not call vaporwave (the genre), despite being part of vaporwave (the community). In order to avoid being in endless limbo with arguments over where to place these genres (arguments that only exist because of the inherent flaws of RYM's genre system), we created a functional workaround that would allow us to still represent the wider vaporwave that encompasses all the stuff that comes from that community and feature the broad characteristics of vaporwave. We're not trying to redefine the name of vaporwave or anything like that, we're just reflecting a real split in the usage of the term that we need to address in order for the site to function as intended. We don't even treat it as a regular genre, but rather as a metagenre, a largely functional tag solely created to correct for this dissonance. This is actually something we've done several times! Another prominent of a metagenre we use as a workaround for tree issues is Hardcore [Punk], a meta added to differentiate between hardcore Punk vs the wider hardcore sphere, created to solve an issue where people wouldn't allow melodic metalcore to be listed under metalcore because metalcore was listed as a hardcore punk genre, but wouldn't allow metalcore to be moved out of hardcore punk, and to give a home to genres like trancecore that otherwise don't really have a good point. We've even been considering adding a Gothic Music meta for a while to solve an issue where the entire Darkwave tree is in parentless limbo and as a result totally inaccessible from the tree. Again, none of these are terms or groupings we invented. These are all real concepts that we've been able to source usage for. They just only exist on the tree because RYM has a weird, inherently flawed genre system that requires us to come up with weird workarounds like this so that things function somewhat properly and we don't have genres getting stonewalled in the queue forever over silly parentage arguments. Hope you have a great day!

[@codypaulsen1023]

Thank you outbreak very cool

[@MrCTruck]

I totally agree, what're they thinking? My guess is that they think they've bought enough credibility with the Kendrick movement and SZAs incredible sound and can keep the hype going but they missed the mark big-time, they should've capitalized more on DAMN and black panther soundtrack and kept releasing year after year, they have so many great artists.

[@J_Chips]

I was looking for this comment. I think not enough people bring up the Black Panther soundtrack. It’s definitely a solid TDE project even though it’s tied to the movie IMO.

[@Mariokartfann]

LET'S ARGUE: This is Anthony's worst bass intro to a Let's Argue video

[@beloiter]

Best*

[@CharlesMontgomeryBurns.]

I…..Agree?

[@perplexed1783]

I.... Disagree

[@platinumsellingbitch.]

I… disagree. He played his ass off, you could feel the emotion and (possibly) anger in the playing, much like how Kendrick rapped his ass off on “u.”. The beautiful bombastic feeling in the playing gets your attention immediately, and feels intense. If you’re hearing this bass solo without headphones, you can feel the ground shaking and makes you feel intimidated by the threatening aura of the bass, much like biggie on “gimme the loot”. It triggers your fight or flight instincts, but as you see thicchany boytano’s warm and breathtaking face, it calms you down. This bass solo puts you in a rollercoaster of emotions, and as the bass solo concludes, it has a final shout, and throws beautiful, yet in intense notes at you. When the solo concluded, I lied down, and thought about what I just heard, in a good way

[@key-tg1ih]

True… I guess?

[@dawnfyre3337]

I still think all three of Q, Jay Rock and Ab-Soul have the potential for great releases

[@dreway4102]

HELL YES. SchoolboyQ absolutely has a classic in him

[@colin3498]

Not q but the other two for sure

[@thesilenthero422]

Problem is they haven't shown that potential yet, after all these years, other than schoolboy q with oxymoron, but that was 7 years ago and he hasn't topped that since

[@WinterReflections]

@KZbin Smells The problem with all of them is they can't seem to be bothered to get to work. They had so much steam, and if it all goes to waste it will be their faults. And regarding Kendrick, I definitely think his peak was Good Kid Maad City through To Pimp a Butterfly. Damn was fine but clearly a step down. And ever since Damn dropped, WHERE HAS KENDRICK BEEN? Again, couldn't be bothered. I think Kendrick is in a spot where he has had so much critical acclaim that he probably feels too safe and secure in his spot. Even the best can fall. How long has it been since he released last?

[@niceockman8993]

@@WinterReflections like 4 years but if you're actually a celebrity then that doesn't matter and Kendrick has a real mainstream fanbase.

[@georgefantano4396]

the guitar intro was pretty good I'm feeling a light to decent 7

[@ieatpears1161]

this aged well

[@thebruhman3842]

I would love to see Anthony playing a harp for an intro of Let’s Argue.

[@CharlesMontgomeryBurns.]

That would be amazing

[@perplexed1783]

A Violin would be sexy

[@thebruhman3842]

@@perplexed1783 I…Agree

[@WordoftheElderGods]

Or a saxophone

[@Revolution9machspeed]

Or hear me out.......HIM DOING A ONE MAN BAND!!! Ha Ha...Now that would be funny!

[@CharlesMontgomeryBurns.]

Damn that guitar playing tho

[@nibyafternight1983]

I don't know why TDE need to drop another game changing project. They already stablished their legacy as one of the most unique hip hop collectives releasing some of the most interesting albums in the last decade. Kendrick could even retire and he still would be one of the best rappers of all time

[@SX1995able]

Yeah, but thats the boring route to go

[@ayandandlovu1292]

@@SX1995able true. I personally want TDE to keep pushing. Try new things this decade.

[@SX1995able]

@@ayandandlovu1292 I mean look, Kendrick and Isaiah are really the two big hitters coming up. Like Fantano said. The other have not madre the same splash. Q kind of did but I think he was too grimey for mainstream success and some of the other are Just whatever. I agree. They need to either drop a other legendary Kendrick album or sign a New artista that can rival him

[@ziggle5000]

Ok but if they embrace that mindset they objectively are a dying label.

[@Marko-nh3dn]

i get what you mean, but look at it like this, will Atlantic records just stop signing artists? they've cemented themselves as an empire in the label industry, but that doesn't mean just fade away. I feel as if they should keep the label going for more decades to come and keep it alive, Top should pass it down to his sons, they are already managers, and so on.

[@MyoticTesseract]

lmao i loved the fadeout on the fadeout question

[@rafe2021]

A month later Kendrick is leaving they were right LMAOOOOO

[@cheesecakelasagna]

T-Pain's reddit lowkey interactions are wholesome tho

[@wokeil]

I don't know if Top Dawg or Punch are interested in reinventing the label into the new decade honestly. They feel like oldheads who don't want to adapt

[@atmbcito]

i agree

[@donmach6458]

I think the only progressive drive TDE has is Kendrick, and only Kendrick.. Its going to be long before we see him come back though.

[@spectree8549]

Same with MMG

[@dickridinhater7816]

They're beginning to look like one of the most unproductive hip hop record labels with a great roster ever. Im embarrassed for them. Its really tops and punch fault. Its a damn shame.

[@blackeagle9000000]

When the artist are going in 3 year long hiatuses I’m not shocked someone has says this

[@marioi.carrillo6264]

At this point TDE should sign more, newer and fresher artists, that's definitely better than either having inactive artists or artists that are not really putting their best stuff.

[@theconsciousobserver6829]

They have a plan

[@frshkidg]

This TDE argument argument aged really well, considering all that has happened since this video dropped lol.

[@theogofguitar]

Kendrick is getting dangerous to the point of being so long that peoples hype will fade. Not like people are gonna be like imma sleep on this....but there is a time to strike when the iron is hot. It’s be one thing if Kdot was like nah I’m taking a break but holy shit this feels like waiting for 3stacks to drop a few years after OutKast hung it up

[@GamingBullLP]

I don't think that's true. You might argue that the hype becomes so big, he won't be able to meet it. But it's still Kendrick and even if it took another 5 years people would still be hyped. Same with 3stacks. If he decided to really drop a solo album people would go nuts.

[@UnnecessarilyLongUsername]

Kendrick lamar is the rap equivelant of gta 6

[@spongeaang98]

Dude, Blonde dropped and not only was it a masterpiece, but it was all anyone talked about. People said it's one of the greatest albums ever made. He will be fine. It's literally been 4 years.

[@amgm1996]

so, whos gonna tell him about fiona apple

[@Thecoolguy463]

I disagree. The world is going to stop whenever Kendrick drops. He’s one of the few artist that can do that. Plus rumor is Drake hasn’t dropped yet because he’s waiting on Kendrick to drop.

[@lordrapgod4803]

It’s funny how if someone drops an album that isn’t as good as the last one their fans will turn on them. Yeah crasH talk isn’t schoolboys best by far but to write him off like this is so disrespectful. As if he doesn’t have H&C, Oxy and blank face under his belt. Your gonna tell me nobody cares about Q anymore !? Jay-z, one of the goats has even dropped pretty weak albums and he’s bounced back how many times ??!! I can’t sit here and let this man write the narrative that schoolboy is washed hahaha he will bounce back. Who doesn’t love to see there favourite artists come back better then before ?

[@lordrapgod4803]

Ab-Soul will always be loved by true Hip-Hop fans. So if the new generation doesnt care about him well that’s their loss. Redemption by Jay Rock was great and might be his best album. SiR released Chasing summer in 2019 which was fucking amazing and doesn’t get the credit it deserves. Also Kendrick, SZA and Zay aren’t dropping bad albums.. let’s be real here. So get that out of your head.

[@justapeep7132]

all i hear is facts. i know people can only give their viewpoint when albums are years apart. but i think people judge that album like its the last one they’ll ever make. i think peoples expectations for artists to top their last album are the reason they cant enjoy listening to any of their other albums as much.

[@ozzy.8413]

That’s not really what’s being said here. No one is saying schoolboy Q is bad, but if he’s going to take these long hiatuses between projects, at least make them good. We waited 3 years for the follow up to Blank Face LP, and it turned out to be an album with no replay value at all. Now it’s 2021, so we’ve gone 5 years without a good schoolboy Q album. He’s fading into irrelevance.

[@siftwram]

@@ozzy.8413 no replay value at all 😂😂 most dogshit take I’ve seen all month

[@amcke09]

TDE should sign Baby Keem. And they just need to consistently drop music from everyone. a Black Hippy Album with features from the new crew would bring them right back to the top

[@imnottellingyou9724]

@Alexander McKenzie turns out Kendrick ended up leaving TDE and has started his own label pgLang signing Baby Keem , Tanna Leone and many more artists to come.

[@redactedname247]

Why is Fantano rocking Wide Awake: The Shirt? Also apparently Parquet Courts is dropping a new album in October.

[@topbackpodcast2615]

TDE til 2018 was on a roll with artists dropping projects every 3 months or so which is a respectable time allowing fans to digest projects without feeling over saturated…..but ever since Jay Rocks Redemption album, they’ve been in a slump. When a TDE album releases, you should always expect critical acclaim, but lately projects like Q’s Crash Talk and Reasons albums came and went. Kendrick has been silent, Ab-Soul and SZA haven’t released an album in 4+ years and the other non-Black Hippy artists don’t have a big enough name for people to really care with the exception of SiR who is a quality artist. Idk man they just really need to drop some music on a more consistent basis like they used too. Their fans such as myself are getting impatient

[@J_Chips]

I would love for Q to drop an entire project with Alchemist. One can only dream though.

[@drhall343]

Fantano without glasses looking like a white version of Jiff in Bowfinger.

[@linel2130]

regarding vapor, it's not intended to replace vaporwave which seems to be what the person thinks? the genre vaporwave still exists, vapor merely serves as a meta genre to group together all the vapor style genres (dreampunk, future funk, hardvapour, utopian virtual, the list goes on) and isn't actually intended to be used as a genre on releases. vapor and vaporwave coexist and both serve a different purpose

[@Steven-uk2fz]

If Kdot, Q or SZA haven't released in the next 6 months I think TDE are gone

[@hissingfaunaa]

rat... cheese worst enemyy 😰

[@Jonny2by4]

profound

[@MalcBreezy]

Hot Take: TDE could stay relevant and freshen up the roster by signing Kenny Mason

[@nichoj2177]

Imma huge Kenny Mason fan but idk if he really fits the TDE vibe

[@colinb4295]

They need to change the vibe music is changing

[@Marko-nh3dn]

hmmmmmm! i agree, but i want kenny to be able to release music, they hold music hostage too much.

[@antonisssbtw400]

@@Marko-nh3dn nah isaiah said in an interview that the reason they dont drop is because of them not because of the management at TDE

[@swaythekid]

Nah he would be better at dreamville with jid

[@ambitious6963]

Anthony's really proud of this shirt isn't he

[@perplexed1783]

Melon is a different breed then normal melons, he's colorful and proud, therefore he has variety

[@nonchalantcommenting2273]

It’s not too bad of a shirt if I’m being honest

[@p_o_o_g8139]

I like it

[@ambitious6963]

@@nonchalantcommenting2273 no it's a great shirt actually

[@EuriLochus]

LET’S ARGUE: Melon is a dying fruit

[@perplexed1783]

It's still topping the fruit charts idk tf you smoking

[@Drogon7102]

@@perplexed1783 nah apples and grapes have been topping it forever man.

[@youngslick7593]

Actually the tomato is actually leading

[@freddysamjacob363]

TDE aren't pushing their other artists as much as they should

[@Alexander-vt3zh]

They all have the potential to drop great music, as they've already proved, and that will never go away. If we're talking about commercial success then who knows, there's only so much one can do about that. All in all that won't stop me from listening to any artist I care about if what they make resonates with me.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

9:43 an example of a fade out that does something like this (very niche song) that I really like is the end of “Sora ni niji ga ukan demo” a city pop song by keiko utsumi. Right at the end a saxophone comes in and adds a lot to the chorus and it fades on this duet between the chorus and a saxophone just going crazy

[@panfexvods]

i'm glad my tweet became a part of your patreon shilling, oh wise and bald one i will remain forever honoured, and forever in your debt

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

TDE should’ve tried to sign Mach Hommy.

[@Chill_Brill]

Jay Rock won a Grammy for his last album he still in a good position

[@RedEyedJEdi410]

Ab-Soul is still my favorite out of TDE so I'm honestly looking forward to him dropping more than anyone. Do What Thou Wilt wasn't as good as it could've been but he's had some really strong features in the past couple of years that still lets me know he's got it.

[@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy6]

LETS ARGUE: That’s a cool ass shirt and I need to know where you got it

[@ilyconvinced]

It's definitely from Polo Ralph Lauren. Idk the exact piece though.

[@masterofdisguise9564]

Let’s Argue: Sub Pop is the greatest label the planet has ever seen

[@creamcannon825]

SST and Alternative Tentacles would like to disagree

[@bruh-gn5kc]

Thats a lets agree right there

[@dillon804]

possibly

[@tooskidavis3733]

Better than Creation?

[@Ravenscannotfly]

I've always preferred Dom Pop

[@bonethugsfiend]

Ive liked every one of Ab Souls projects. Hed have to release a doo-doo album for me to lose faith in him.

[@zeanith5313]

I will always be excited for a schoolboy project. Yes im biased asf since hes my favorite artist but idc call me delusional.

[@R.T.and.J]

I understand, I'm sure everyone is that way with their favorite artists. My favorite artist passed away like a decade ago, but would still be nice to get a new album :P

[@justaneyedeastan4127]

@@R.T.and.J same, my favorite artist is Eyedea, passed in 2010

[@R.T.and.J]

@@justaneyedeastan4127 Holy shit, me too. That was literally the artist I was talking about haha, always great to see another Eyedea fan! R Eye P!

[@justaneyedeastan4127]

@@R.T.and.J OMFG NO WAY! I love Eyedea so much!!!

[@chilihotdog7257]

@@R.T.and.J Just fucking kiss already

[@Harsh_Deathstep]

1:14 , I was expecting an explosion effect right after

[@iamhexoronii]

Idk about that “ come and gone “ bs with TDE , they just be taking long pauses in between artists but when majority of labels or artist are dropping projects every year or couple of months and majority are mediocre at best , then it’s more of a quality over quantity or vice versa

[@Samantha-xi4xr]

Boi back at it with the guitar riffs!

[@parker7952]

the switch up from bass to acoustic for the intro is very spicy and keeps things interesting. keep it up atoney

[@kody3333333]

Ab Soul dropped arguably his best project in 2016 and since then we've heard nothing about a new album, it's sad man. If it takes 3-5 years to get your major players albums out then yeah shits not going to go well for you when your looking to sign new up and coming talent.

[@Iridesca]

Let’s argue: The Unseen by Madlib is a classic and you should review it

[@MCTie]

he definitely should

[@alldogsgoheaven]

R u talking about tha rock band or madlib?

[@Iridesca]

@@alldogsgoheaven madlib

[@kentfindlay9614]

Ice cold take

[@Iridesca]

@@kentfindlay9614 ok then let’s agree

[@jerrailjordan6406]

After the 3 "meh" song drops from Zay so far, I'm still trying to figure out what we were waiting for. I think Dave Free leaving had an impact on the label overall. Look at the music videos...they're not as good as they used to be when Free was there. I think Kendrick wants to bounce too to get pgLang really moving (which could be the next big thing in the industry), but wants to be loyal as a legacy artist, sort of like Stevie Wonder with Motown...just my two cents.

[@joshf6148]

Cmon man Headshots is NOT meh. I’ll give you the others but that track slaps

[@andy-gt2kc]

@@joshf6148 yeah headshots feels like it coulda been on the sun's tirade

[@Marko-nh3dn]

@@shaheedmorwe3282 i think him sobering up and not being in that young, back against the world mindset took away a lot of that hunger we loved about zay. Sad to say that someone would have to be in a depressing time in there life to get the best music, but I think that was the case for him. hopefully the house is burning is his first transition to adulthood, I wanna hear him speak on being a father.

[@Marko-nh3dn]

@@shaheedmorwe3282 true. That's why I got hopes for Kenny mason. If he gets on pgLlang he'd takeover in his lane. Id just let this mumble rap/noeaning music die out by itself.

[@jerrailjordan6406]

Yeah, I agree! I'm a big TDE fan but I don't have any excitement about this upcoming release. They were better off just having a surprise drop.

[@mariokartseven]

This aged well

[@noahnotyou]

ngl i didn't expect melon to shop at Dan Flashes

[@genesisosuna]

They're not a dying label because it's not like they've been a banger after banger label, they're known for nuanced and long-awaited albums Need that Kendrick album immediately though

[@Kirbystare1992]

I could say the same about Dreamville but they at least put out some consistent music. TDE needs to do the same.

[@_sparkdala_]

LETS ARGUE: The KZbinr "Ruff Criminal" is actually "The Internet's Buisiest Music Nerd." He has made about 140 music reviews in the last 4 months.

[@sittingyak]

Quality > Quantity

[@sahirde]

@@sittingyak and his are highest quality. Have you ever seen something so to the point?

[@_sparkdala_]

@@sittingyak his are pretty high quality tbh

[@NealBones]

TDE has now confirmed this

[@lostpicasso260]

With a group like this, I'd just like to see em survive and keep putting stuff out. They're all so successful that it makes me wonder if they even see it as a race or competition, maybe they're kinda just doing whatever they want..I'm not sure though. Would they really have to worry?

[@IK-yb5rn]

How the hell is TDE’s entire relevancy dependent on 3 upcoming albums? QC currently runs hip hop and they drop trash all the time. Don’t expect perfection from TDE with every release. Also claiming Ab-Soul, Q and Jay Rock have nothing new to offer is such a gross dismissal.

[@masedgod1544]

Man I miss the days of TDE’s peak. Back in like 2010-2013 when everybody was listening to Kendrick, Schoolboy Q, Ab-Soul & Jay Rock. Such a nice era

[@nibyafternight1983]

Ironic how a label called "Quality Control" drop trash all the time

[@IK-yb5rn]

True, we’ll never get that era back. But as Schoolboy said, all the artists have grown in their own creative direction (for better or worse) so I’m happy for them

[@tommyscarlet]

Ab-Soul is nowhere to be found, Q and Jay Rock's latest releases were just okay...someone needs to turn it up there man. QC has buzz 'cause the artists are already huge, and they keep meeting the standard (low as it may be) that people expect. Most of TDE's artists could be solidified by now, but if feels like they all (aside from Kendrick and maybe Q) still have so much to do. A lot of potential, but not too many great albums...

[@IK-yb5rn]

@Jay they haven’t dropped anything since 2019 because of the pandemic. I don’t agree with Punch’s business decisions but hip hop fans can be so impatient.

[@blasborg]

Did you get that shirt at Dan Flashes? The pattern is so complicated!

[@grantreill1966]

9:44 anthony was just thinking about the end section of m83's midnight city lol, I remember when that first came out haha

[@lordrapgod4803]

Yes TDE takes a long time to drop albums and yes this can be frustrating. But only because we love what they do. Here’s the thing though when you grow up and understand that these people aren’t your puppets for entertainment and actually real life people you’ll maybe lay off a little more. Everyone was on Zays ass about dropping an album but finally learned that he was going through rehab or whatever. That’s a perfect example of what I mean. We don’t know them personally and we don’t know what’s going on in their lives. Maybe Kendrick hasn’t dropped because he decided he wanted to lay low and take care of his babies and actually be around to raise them. Going on tours and being a “rapper” will take that away from him no doubt. These are the things you have to consider when people don’t drop for years. Maybe take a step back and think that they are real people going through real things. Being a “rapper” isn’t the most important thing to them anymore. They have families and that’s the most important thing. Just be a fan and wait patiently. However long that may take. 2y, 5y, 10y or maybe even never just be grateful for what their music has done for you. When they drop you’ll be there to listen.

[@ayandandlovu1292]

Well said

[@kevfrompest5332]

Let's Agree: Anthony actually plays guitar really well.

[@MetzdorfYT]

Ok

[@alroth1035]

A point about fadeouts is that they're also great for enforcing musical refrains and choruses - it's a good way of creating the illusion of an endless, continued refrain in the likes of "God Only Knows" or "Hey Jude" that sort of invite you to keep these codas in mind even as the same, well, fades out. It only really comes across as lazy when there isn't anything to enforce in the fadeout and it feels as though the song is ending before reaching a satisfying climax - but I can't for the life of me think of many examples where such a thing happens either.

[@gasmaskestore8018]

He was totally playing the outro from Walk Away by The Sisters of Mercy at the acoustic guitar light 9 on the performance.

[@samw00dsidegames17]

Even if TDE dies, their biggest artists will still stay in the spotlight I think

[@Lm0956]

I hate tde holding back artists and not letting them drop

[@t.r.elliott1684]

ScHoolboy Q is underrated always. Crash Talk had some duds, but there was also just as many bangers (Tales, 5200, Crash) and I think his next drop is gonna blow up.

[@MrDannyWright]

I like a good fade-out. It's like the song is still going on somewhere, and you're just dipping out for a while.

[@dabs.47]

TDE went hard for MANY years they really don’t have much to prove anymore.. it’s every one else’s fault for not doing research and just waiting for them to trend again 🤦🏽‍♂️ but if god forbid one of em died then THATS when they’re the goat

[@alldogsgoheaven]

Lol fr tho

[@KarlJuhl]

agreed anyone talking about tde got nothing recently, wasting their position etc dont understand. They been proven everything. They got younger artists and more matured artists, and a ridiculous track record behind it all. Rashad dropping in 7 days for fucks sake. These days people used to fast everything, fast fashion, fast music, they forget about the quality music from artists that been historical.

[@SX1995able]

Unpopular observation, but, Kendrick is the only artist people care about on TDE. Yes, theres others that are just as good or close to it, but lets be honest: most people only care about Kendrick

[@amazingjay3957]

They are already called a goat and legendary label it’s just annoying when that label or the artists on the label barely drops anything. Fans have been waiting for the LONGEST this isn’t just one person either it’s not like they Frank Ocean it’s an entire group

[@iHuzza]

@@SX1995able I disagree; people care the MOST about Kendrick as he has the most hits/ iconic albums so far. But pretending like SZA and ScHoolboy don't have large fanbases and mainstream appeal is silly, and that's without mentioning some of the other artists (eg. SiR and Isaiah Rashad) with growing fanbases.

[@vosstoofly]

I feel like TDE should try acquiring Baby Keem, he’s been dropping some heat lately and is closely associated with Kendrick, with Kendrick mentorship he could grow into an amazing artist

[@SX1995able]

Personally think Baby Keem is a terrible name and I would never listen to someone with that name, but thats Just me

[@kashenmoodley8293]

Baby keem signed to Kendrick tho

[@vosstoofly]

@@kashenmoodley8293 i thought it was just a co-sign or something, my fault then 🤣

[@justinmaehren187]

Keem is Kendricks cousin!

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

@@SX1995able lol

[@Rgemma1019]

On the next Lets Argue Melon should play the bass intro to Excursions

[@HornedBee]

Expected you to start screaming OXYGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN in the beginning with that acoustic in your hands