Let's Compare ( Fatal Fury 2 & Fatal Fury Special )

[@StudioDragoonX]

My parents got me this game when I was 16. Fell hard for SNK in part to this game. (that and Samurai Shodown)

[@kupamon]

The game gear version is a technichal marvel, it has excelent animation, graphics, and the gameplay is just awesome is like playing the original neo geo arcade..

[@fifaworldcup1994]

kupamon Except some characters are missing entirely. Where's Krauser for instance?

[@dallas2314]

FIFA, aside from that and the lack of the two-plane system, it's fantastic.

[@KenMasters.]

Fatal Fury Special is just SNK's own version of Super Street Fighter II.

[@aidiknocles]

It's almost one-on-one

[@GamingHistorySource]

I'm not too sure what is going on with KZbin, But I have not been receiving email notifications lately. So if I miss Your comments it's not because I'm ignoring You. I'm just not seeing the new comments. I used Kim & Jubie in these videos to keep everything the same for comparison purposes. It makes it easier to highlight the differences on each console. Enjoy the video ! :)

[@Fthemalkavian]

The SNES version of FF special was excellent.

[@GamingHistorySource]

Thank You for the kind words. I really appreciate comments like this. I hope that You continue to enjoy this channel for years to come. :)

[@icebeam23860]

Wow, Game Gear version is lucky to have Ryo Sakazaki as selectable from the start!

[@VarietiesTeck]

Great video, Fatal Fury is best game ever.

[@Lhead88]

omg gameboy color fatal fury special wins hands down lol. But honestly game gear being a 8 bit handheld is impressive for what you get.

[@andrealves3104]

As a SNK gamer, I have to admit I've laughed when I saw Ryo Sakazaki instead of Krauser for the Game Gear intro. Good port, though.

[@ironkong26]

had this for genesis...soo good

[@astrologamed]

Sega Genesis IS THE BEST SOUND TRACK

[@speedychanii3301]

SNES shits on that train wreck

[@VHuntrD]

The problem is with KZbin's 30 fps cap. These old systems usually cap at 60, which causes videos to look odd when there is flickering going on. If you were to play the actual games, you would see the rapid flickering gives it a somewhat transparent effect.

[@Shinobi33]

That Genesis version is something else. So impressive. I read it was mostly re-created it from scratch.

[@sobesons]

Great vídeo! I like so much your channel, is very interesting compare different versions.

[@greensun1334]

The SNES port of FF Special is very impressive and quite accurate to the original, it's my favourite 16bit SNK fighting game. FF2 on Genesis is my second favourite, it's very different with altered mechanics compared to the original but it's still funny.

[@lurkerrekrul]

Thanks for the explanation. It didn't occur to me that all the different versions would use the exact same method to render the shadows.

[@DDRUTOU]

WOW!!! The Game Gear version totally surprised me!!!

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

In an interview, the developers mentioned that they were unable to replicate the glitch that made combos possible in SF 2( as both games were designed by the same people) so they made hit stun invincible in FF 2. they did get it work in Fatal Fury Special though.

[@wingnut4427]

"Sure today there is the (fatal fury battle archives) but that is emulation not a port,so of course it's just like the arcade." I'm so glad You get it. You wouldn't believe how many times I'm raked over the coals for missing one of those ports. If it were updated graphics & sound then maybe I would add it. Thanks for the comment. :) Much appreciated.

[@lurkerrekrul]

Thanks for the explanation, I hadn't thought of that. :)

[@MasterLinkuei]

Mega Drive/Genesis version have the best playability for combos!!!

[@drakon32]

Yes! Especially when you use the juggle combo code. It's my favorite version just for this reason.

[@redaim25]

It's really impressive to see that the game gear could pull off a game like Fatal Fury Special so well.

[@VOAN]

Remember that even though the Game Gear is 8-Bit, it had more color palettes than even the Sega Genesis and Sega Master System. GG color palette had over 4000 colors whereas Sega Genesis could only produced 512 colors. This is why Game Gear games could never display properly on a Sega Genesis. You could run GG games on it sure but then all the colors would get mess up.

[@Tanzim-Kazi]

The music of the Sega CD version of Fatal Fury Special sounds entirely like the Neo Geo version. I think the music would be better if they have a remixed CD audio soundtrack.

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

lol - the NeoGeo was real chip music - the Mega CD version needed the CD tracks for the music to sound good :-)

[@Ai-fj1dc]

No, the Mega CD version used the Neo Geo OST (which is sad : /)

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Terry Nashter Nah, the Neo's chip music is the original and best imo. Some times CD arranged tracks remixes or remasters are good but imo its sad you feel they are better. The NeoGeo had much better chip sound hardware than the MegaDrive and without the CD the soundtrack could have been much worse lol

[@Ai-fj1dc]

The Kaylied Gamer​​ Neo-Geo was MIDI format just like Mega Drive / Genesis Plus Yamaha made the sound chips of both systems, it's just the Neo Geo one having a more powerful one (and Fatal Fury 2 didn't sound bad on MD) The Mega CD version of Fatal Fury Special used the Neo Geo OST instead of a true CD quality AST, and trust me, it would have been better (The Last Blade I & II's OSTs sounded quite weird on Neo Geo, but the Neo Geo CD's ASTs sounded absolutely beautiful)

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Terry Nashter Still prefer the Original chip music on all consoles tbh - red book CD tracks may sound nice but they feel 'overblown' in many games imo. But if you prefer or like arranged game sound tracks then good for you - its just the same lol.

[@CptGuapo]

Oh, yes, yes... I'm considering what I see in ths video only. I have GB fullset and based on your commentary, I'll take a look. Thanks.

[@marianogonza6295]

i can't believe you don't know kim's special moves 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Darknight0681]

Obvious 8 bit limitations aside, that PC Engine port was the most accurate of all of them aside from Neo Geo.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

Ralph Pollard And it's suprising how with just an add-on, they were able to make what they made!

[@cnk9822]

Too bad that the PC-Engine controler was like the NES one, imagine playing with that.

[@txray3409]

@@cnk9822 There are multiple controllers, including a 3 button one, and three different 6 button pads for PC-Engine. Get informed.

[@txray3409]

If the "8bit limitations" are so obvious, then go ahead and mention some. smh it has nothing to do with bits.

[@AmigaCammy]

The Game Gear version is an amazing port for Sega's 8-bit system, makes me really want a Game Gear now. I wish the Atari Lynx had received ports of games like this, it could easily have handled the parallax layers and large sprites with scaling between planes.

[@dallas2314]

The Game Gear version is my favorite fighting game for the system!

[@VOAN]

Atari Lynx had a terrible stiff d-pad which isn't even suitable for a fighting game which is why that piece of garbage had no fighting games on it.

[@AmigaCammy]

There were at least three very different D-pad designs for the Lynx, at least one of which is very much like the NES/Game Boy D-Pad and works well at least for the homebrew Mortal Kombat port, but yes the others aren't great. You don't seriously believe the reason the Lynx didn't get any fighting games was because of its D-pad though, do you? The Lynx had no Japanese developers at all, so of course it wasn't getting anything from Capcom or SNK. So what else other than the D-Pad makes you consider the system to be garbage?

[@leonard316]

is there a ZX Spectrum version of this game?

[@fifaworldcup1994]

leonard316 No.

[@David315842]

I just realised there was an error, the Gameboy entry had the Gameboy Color banner on it. The game was released years before the Game Boy Color was released.

[@Bloodreign1]

Probably a mistake by the video maker, it does have a nice color set running on a Super Game Boy though.

[@VOAN]

Yeah it was play on a Super Game Boy. Takara never made any fighting games on Game Boy Color. Both Garou Densetsu 2 and Real Bout Garou Special were Game Boy titles that had Super Game Boy support.

[@NegoClau]

SNES looked better, but GENESIS felt better... I say considering what was affordable back in the day..

[@txray3409]

And the PC-Engine version looks and plays better than both!

[@TXCrafts1]

alot of people have been getting that issue lately, it apparently has to due with some new update from google. you may have to go to your settings and un-link to google or something like that

[@gvillarreal79]

all versions are interesting but none of them could keep the physics of the arcade intact, the neogeo cd had the rearranged music which is fine but they should've given you the choice to use the original track or the the rearranged. Thank god for the battle archives on ps2 ,but something feels missing in them though.

[@Bloodreign1]

Blood in FF3 in the first volume, and blood in every game in Volume 2, both US releases (Japan versions had the blood intact). That's about the only thing I can think of as Mai has her bounciness in all the games she is in.

[@magalhaes5243]

Missing speed and resolution

[@JohnnyOTGS]

I would say that the Super NES version of this game is more enjoyable for me than the original Neo-Geo. Because it's more easier.

[@GRIMLOCK07]

Well, the Neo-Geo was for people who could handle harder games. SNK games on the Neo-Geo are not usually easy, that's what I like about Neo-Geo.

[@dave8986]

That's right. Neo Geo games are challenging and that's one of the reasons why they're worth playing. I like the progressive way in which Fatal Fury Special dfificulty is set (just like in any other on-on-one really but it demands an extra challenge).

[@famyemil]

I don't get why in all these compare videos, the SNES version volume is so low...I get great sounds on my set...SNES FF Special Ryo's music is awesome

[@PhoenixDaytona]

The games were TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE to be SO FUCKING HARD!!! Sorry.. SNK SUCKED for that 1..

[@PhoenixDaytona]

((AND)) their early fighting games had POOR controller response.... DOUBLE NEGATIVE...

[@Fygee]

Just goes to show how the Neo-Geo was far and away the best 2D console created. All the ports range from decent to hilariously bad.

[@wingnut4427]

In older consoles it wasn't easy to do transparencies. So to counter this the developers would create shadowing effects with a high flicker rate. because the recording software is out of sync with the shadows You get this glitchy appearance.It is a result of the recording software being out of sync with the game. And it is impossible to sync them up without recording twice the speed of the emulation to make it appear normal.

[@wiiztec]

Where is SNES fatal fury special?

[@1983parrotheadMUSIC]

wiiztec 16:32

[@KageMaxwell]

I didn't know that was a SNES version of Fatal Fury Special. Hmm, the more you know.

[@FLHilde]

Genesis version was better than the snes, more intense music, vivid colors and especially the ability to make better combos thanks to the faster processor of the genesis you can make a move inside another move... which was not possible with the slow porcesador the snes. besides that the sound of the SNES version sounds like was inside a cardboard box.

[@Bloodreign1]

The extra combos, and juggles code meant the game was no longer as close to arcade perfect as it could've been. I play the Genesis version the same way I play the SNES and arcade versions (and emulated ones in the Battle Archives collections), the normal way.

[@islandbowyrev2178]

Nice work and hustle brethren ....gamer to another ...keep up the work...I was awesome at this game ..that was.lol

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

At least there's one port that does a fine job of this game.

[@bangerbangerbro]

Is an AES not compatible with the MVS version? What's up with the cartoon characters in the game boy version? Game gear version is actually really impressive.

[@marianogonza6295]

You're right I really miss Mai 💔

[@mrhoeivo]

Is it just me, or is the PC Engine version smoother than the Neo Geo original?

[@wingnut4427]

Sega Genesis surprised me the most with Fatal Fury 2. The biggest let down was the SNES Fatal Fury 2. But it redeemed itself with Fatal Fury Special.

[@chrisdemeanor84]

Thanos for the interesting videos! My first experience with FDA was on the emulated XBOX360 arcade version but after seeing your bid I can honestly say it looks better in standard definition than HD. The 360 version is way more colorful though. If I had to choose one I'd say Sega CD is the best version. It just looks like every punch, kick and throw Carries so much weight

[@wingnut4427]

The award was biggest pain in the ass goes to the Sharp X68000. long load times. loads of disk swapping, & awkward controls took away from it. But it made up for it in Graphics & sound.

[@VideoGamesAnthology]

don't judge by the video, it might look like that but believe me, give it a try. It's really good, i used to play this A LOT when i had this and KOF 96, the sound is good and the gameplay is awesome. All the moves and special attacks are there, and all very smooth to execute. Try on emulators you'll be amazed...

[@lafayettecathey3409]

D.Signal mame emulator fatal fury kicks ass!

[@Bloodreign1]

I have a hard time pulling off simple moves from Mai in the Genesis version, yet little to no issues on the SNES and PS2 versions I own. I have the GB version, it's not bad at all really, just shrunk down sprites to fit the screen, plays decently. I do like the Genesis version, but I don't own a copy of it, just the SNES, PS2, and GB versions for now. Not sure why I have issues pulling off moves in the Genny one, and no problem with the SNES versions, even in emulation using the same pad. The first game I could understand, but not a sequel for Genesis that was highly improved over the original (both SNES and Genesis versions were miles ahead of the original FF).

[@Bloodreign1]

The problem of no Genesis version in my collection now resolved.

[@lurkerrekrul]

What's with the flickering black shadows in most all the versions? At first I thought it was an emulation glitch, but almost all the versions seem to have it. If they couldn't do proper shadows, they should have just left them out. As it is, it looks like there's something wrong with the game.

[@merkreflektion]

never saw the CD verions (mega cd. super cd rom ²) Suprisingly good ports , large sprites and all.

[@VOAN]

Can't believe how awful the Sega CD version look, there's practically no animations in the background and no objects to break like the other versions.

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

Japanese Saturn had some good FF games released on it :-)

[@calvin3464]

I just noticed something: Why does Kim Kaphwan sound like a girl in the Sega CD version of Fatal Fury Special?

[@AzumiRM]

The x68000 wast best if you look at price for quality. The Neogeo being the original is obviously the perfect version but at the time this game would have cost over 250$ for that system. It's a shame the Japanese public didn't realize that the x68000 is based on a MOTOROLA CPU, which is not Japanese at all. I believe that if Japanese software manufacturers were less racist during the 80's and 90's then some of the best versions of games at the time would have been on the likes of the Amiga, A1200 or CD32. Instead the likes of Capcom only worked on Japanese console ports. When they allowed non-Japanese system version to be made they only released the graphics and sound and left it entirely up to the foreign developers such as "US Gold" (for example) to program the game engine. Thus an inferior version was released for non-Japanese systems, thus people got the impression that Japanese systems were better , thus the Japanese console makers made more money and or sales and thus the software devs also made more money as well as boosting the economy for Japan.

[@gargonovich]

AzumiRM With its RAM and video specs, the X68000 got the best ports because it mopped the floor with the Amiga, and it especially got the best ports of Capcom games because the X68000 was the development machine for CPS and CPS2 arcade games. Japanese computers at the time were simply better than Western computers, especially comparing stock hardware.

[@gargonovich]

I would say there was still a gulf, although you are correct in saying that AGA did a lot to bridge the gap. But, the X68000 series video processors are built pretty much specifically for arcade gaming, whereas a lot of the AGA's benefits are in higher colour modes for photo editing and such. We're also comparing a blitter-based display engine in the AGA against a traditional (albeit highly advanced) sprite and tilemap based display in the X68000. The memory structure of both machines is very different as well, with the X68K being more compartmentalized and less flexible, but also less bottlenecked. What I would say is that the Amiga certainly has a more flexible graphics chip, which is why we see so many impressive demos for it, but the X68000 series has a very fast, very powerful but not very flexible graphics system (discrete memory, tilemaps, sprites, etc.) You can see this when the X68000 is asked to do something unusual, like 3D. The later Amigas kill the X68000 in 3D, but 2D is another story. The big thing though, is that the X68000's graphics system is how almost all arcade systems worked at the time, so the ports were better because it was super easy to just plug the games into the already similar X68000 and optimize from there. An Amiga port would necessitate a complete rewrite due to the wildly different graphics architecture. If you had a year or even less to pump out an arcade port, the X68000 is going to have a serious edge there. In period appropriate gaming, I would still say that the X68000 beats the AGA Amiga. What I've seen on both platforms just leads me to believe that the X68000 was better. The Amiga is probably a better COMPUTER, but until the Atari Jaguar or maybe even the Sega Saturn, nothing crushed 2D games like an X68000. At least they're both better than the ST. We can agree on that, right?

[@David315842]

Wingnut4427's least favourite version the Game Gear; for lack of Kim and Jubei. :D

[@fifaworldcup1994]

David315842 But the port is impressive for the system being a reduced version of the Master System, which is saying a lot.

[@angelvalderrama3282]

The Sega version has better playabilty even than the arcade

[@mikelo0000]

vERY GOOD

[@wingnut4427]

lol.. didn't know there was one. My search yielded no results.

[@Progearspec]

Surprising enough my favorite port of FF2 is the genesis version.Since FF2 on the genesis adopts the mechanics from FFS.Still on the neo-geo i prefer playing FFS more over FF2.As for what i think is the best port of FFS is,that is definitely the pc-engine version.Sure today there is the (fatal fury battle archives) but that is emulation not a port,so of course it's just like the arcade.

[@NeoGeoNinja81]

Ironically, if you had the PAL version of FFSp, this wasn't the case, as they used a smaller cart (either 16meg vs 24meg or 24meg vs 32meg, can't remember exactly) and as a result animation was missing vs PAL FF2/NTSC FFSp and characters were missing too (inc. Big Bear, to mention just one). The horrible music remained though. No 'losses' made in that area. By contrast, I was really disappointed with it vs (contrary to your opinion) what I thought was a solid effort with FF2 w/better music...

[@usagijojo2]

In Fatal Fury 2 (Neo-Geo), Andy was GOD TIER. Fatal Fury Special is definitely the better game by a long shot and not even because of more content, but just the matchup spread is better and more interesting with a lot of viable characters.

[@rasherbasher8203]

pc engine kicking ass.🤯🤯

[@BrunakoPAO]

FF special is best

[@bogart6648]

genesis the best game by far

[@JoeyLamontagne]

Especially with Big Bear's and Billy Kane's theme.

[@iulianispas8634]

Snes version was a stupid joke, laughable , why they bother to port this at all....

[@Bloodreign1]

Because it's actually good, and quite playable to the unbiased, same way with the Genesis version.

[@iulianispas8634]

no snes look like a nes game Mario have more pixel then a character in fatal fury ,also is slow as hell

[@Bloodreign1]

The arcade game wasn't fast paced either, and you're exaggerating quite a bit on the graphics, so no.

[@VOAN]

Not sure what you're talking about, the Super NES version had about the same amount of contents maybe even more than the NeoGeo version. It even had zooming and scaling, see how Jubei took out his shoes in FF2, it flies into the screen just before the fight like the arcade version. You don't see that on Genesis. The PC Engine couldn't even run these games on a regular console requiring a disc add-on for reliability on both versions and even so still missing a few frames.

[@wingnut4427]

yeah. For some odd reason. Now My email is being flooded with new messages. For god sake Google ! If it ain't broke, Don't fix it ! Quit screwing with everything !!

[@maximukhin6325]

and i only have genesis version and i was pissed when i played this but i download superior snes version

[@fifaworldcup1994]

Joseph Woolfork Respect others' opinions please. If he thinks that the SNES version of FF2 is superior to the Genesis one, there's no reason not to respect his opinion, right?

[@speedychanii3301]

Joseph Woolfork You must be a SEGA fanboy, because SNES is way better than the crappy Genesis. Nice try.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

GamerDudeKYS Look, I wasn't even born in the 90 when this SEGA Genesis vs Super Nintendo thing happened, right? So I'm neutral here. And I just said that they respect his opinion because what version is better depends on the console that said person grew up with. So, I defend myself of your accusation, saying that I am supposedly a SEGA fanboy. And quoting you: "Nice try."

[@speedychanii3301]

Sorry for my last comment, I though you were talking about ben owen. Btw, ''Nice try.'' isn't my quote, you should see the comment above and re-think again, and btw i'm not talking to you, i'm talking to JOSEPH, learn to read before commenting. Geez.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

GamerDudeKYS It's not about you. It's about me for not paying attention.

[@felipes.carvalho8790]

PC ENGINE WINS

[@Atrophyed]

Are you really SERIOUS? O_o The sound is so butchered that it makes GBC and GG versions sound nice.. Damn... that Big Bear tune is so terrible!

[@CptGuapo]

Oh, man... The Game Boy version is awful... Argh!

[@VOAN]

On a real Game Boy it actually looks better than what was shown on this video. The game runs smoother than the Game Gear version and had all the characters and endings. Unlike Capcom and Midway, almost all of Takara and SNK handheld fighting games on Game Boy tend to feature a large playable roster of fighters with none lower than 12, Fatal Fury 2 had 12 fighters, KOF 95 had like 15 fighters, KOF96 had like 18 fighters, Samurai Shodown had 15 fighters, Real Bout Fatal Fury Special had 12 fighters, World Heroes 2 had 16 fighters, and Samurai Shodown 3 had 12 fighters. Battle Arena Toshinden which was also made by Takara also had 12 fighters.

[@wingnut4427]

lol

[@isaiasjorge1779]

Ha melhor fatal 2 sega genesis

[@kasetekasete7327]

1.- neo geo, 2.-pc engine. 3.- all console versions crap.

[@maximukhin6325]

snes best genesis worst

[@MrTest-nc2df]

lol no

[@MarcoPolo82]

Maxim Ukhin Neo Geo Arcade: Best; Snes: lame Port.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

ben owen Respect his opinion please. There's no reason to insult him if he doesn't have your same thoughts about something.

[@Bloodreign1]

No, Sega CD, it has many things missing that even the Genesis got, like an announcer, and Jubei's paintings. FFS on SCD, Jubei's stage feels very bare without his breakable paintings of Japanese females (Jubei is a pervert after all). Even the PCE CD FFS got the paintings in the background, and the announcers.