Let's Demystify the ATC Spindle! Part 1: Introduction

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

I think this is going to be a fun one for you all. There really isn't a lot of content on how to make an ATC function. I plan to follow my usual DIY "route" and put together all the necessary components necessary to auto tool change using solenoid valves, my own cooling method, standard VFD, and what it takes for control software to invoke the tool changes. Stay tuned for upcoming videos.

[@jonathanjoffe751]

Ive tried emailing you and each email has bounced back.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

@@jonathanjoffe751 which email are you using?

[@jonathanjoffe751]

​@@PatrickHoodDaniel Both the customer service email listed on your website and the gmail account that you have listed on your youtube channel.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

@@jonathanjoffe751 thanks. I will check.

[@jetco_cnc]

I just picked up this same model from them in Weiterstadt. Awesome guys with a great company. Unfortunately I found your channel right after finished building a control cabinet, but I'm really looking forward to your other videos! PS, my first comment!

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Awesome.

[@leonguyen120]

Can yall make affordable atc spindle with motor for bechtop home hobby version.

[@scratchbuiltdesigns]

Absolutely awesome 😎 Really looking forward to this series. I have an X30 ATC myself, but since I have more than 100 tools/tool holders, I refrained from changing the tools automatically, because a magazine that size wouldn't fit the space around my mill. Changing tools manually within a few seconds with the ATC is enough for me. Nevertheless, I am keen to see how you are going to tackle this. Suscribed and notification bell is on..👍

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Thank you for the subscription! Yes, I will be showing this process in detail down to the solenoids, wiring, control, etc.

[@xConundrumx]

If they ever make a smaller version say Sub 1000W I volunteer to test it.

[@RoboCNCnl]

What a beauty... Hope they deliver me one to :)

[@chriskoppenaal5503]

When are these hitting the website?

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

I'm waiting for the manufacturer to get back to me. Not sure at this point.

[@daviddesmartin5298]

Bonjour Ou est-ce que l’on peut acheter cette broche atc?? David

[@thomasj8681]

2.2 NewtonMeters ? its power in KW in left , Nm is at right on the graphic, so 0.9Nm Max

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Thanks. I will adjust that portion.

[@digitalghosts4599]

I'd be scared to use this Chinese VFD to drive such an expensive spindle. I actually had a very similar looking VFD explode and I got myself Delta MS300 which is only like 30% more expensive, but has so many more safety features and better settings management, documentation and software suite. Now I'm not scared to change some settings, because it has loads of safety features and sensors built-in.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Don't worry, it's going on my scope first to make sure the power is nice and clean! I will probably still put it on a more expensive one though. As long as I am not overloading the winding gauge, I'll be good.

[@digitalghosts4599]

@@PatrickHoodDaniel the way the failure occured was that the spindle was running at very low RPM which is inefficient and a big resistor inside of the VFD literally exploded. Fortunately the spindle took no damage, but this cheap huanyang or whatever it's called VFD seems to have no overload protection!

[@wh0tube]

Was ist das Spinach-E Popeye? 👍

[@nendhang]

so expensive

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Thank you for your comment. It's true that the Spinogy Spindle comes with a higher price tag compared to some other options on the market. However, it's important to note that this spindle is engineered and manufactured in Germany, adhering to stringent quality standards that contribute to its superior performance, durability, and precision. Also, this spindle will provide a reliable and efficient solution for a wide array of materials. I am also making this series for anyone wanting to understand ATC and how to make it function no matter what spndle they are using.

[@jetco_cnc]

It's not as expensive as others and you get a ton of perks for the price, like tool sensors as standard and no need for constant sealing air!

[@nendhang]

@@jetco_cnc you're right actually. off the shelf CNC spindles are way more expensive

[@stevecarlisle3323]

It's German, only Germans can afford it😮

[@stevecarlisle3323]

​@@jetco_cncokay, what other Brands are you comparing it to ?

[@tiagovale4651]

👍

[@funone8716]

Whew I need a cigarette. So after this, how many free spindles did Spinology GIVE you for free? Great promotional video.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Yes, free, but the more important note here is: "Smoking is bad for your health!". Haha. If Spinology is going to give me something, I will take it with open arms and talk about it, but it will not make me biased because if I say something bad about the spindle and they want it back, I will send it back to them and keep the video up. I don't make enough money in this profession/hobby to care. And, I'm too old to care.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Also, they sent me the cables for the spindle, so I will be hooking it up soon and playing with the sensor outputs. I intended to make the cables myself, but the cable connectors are not available here, unfortunately.

[@absolute___zero]

you over-sold it, it is just a regular spindle with pneumatic actuators and .. I don't know is it cat-20? or cat-30? tool holder. 30 year old technology. If it is from Germany they should be selling magnetic spindles with no friction and interferometric distance sensors, not this chinasaurish technology. I am not impressed.

[@stevecarlisle3323]

Hilarious 😂 if you look closely, it seems to be ISO20, but you being the spindle knowledge bank, should know that. Move On 🇨🇦

[@pieterveenders9793]

Exactly, what use is a 30.000 RPM capable spindle that uses ISO-20? For high speeds (10-15K> RPM) only HSK tool holders suffice, anything else is just dumb.

[@stevecarlisle3323]

@@pieterveenders9793 Good to have an opinion. Really strange they make and sell ISO20 high accuracy tool holders, who knows 😉🇨🇦

[@AppleBag1000]

not for 8k lol

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

?

[@AppleBag1000]

@@PatrickHoodDaniel 8 thousand dollars usd for that spindle is crazy

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

@@AppleBag1000 Ah, ok. Yeah, granted, it's not for everyone, but there are companies that need this level of quality.

[@vasyapupken]

but chinese ATC spindles made to the same level of quality and cost less (being mass produced) Spinogy 2.2kW cost about 4K euro - chinese 2.2kW is about 1.5K euro. same precision, same runout, same tool mount. the only downside is it is not made by white europeans. so is 2.5K euro an acceptable price to please a little chauvinist inside our hearts ? )

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

I can't attest to the quality of Chinese ATC spindles, but German spindles are known to be exceptional. There are those which will purchase because of price, but not all.