Let's Drown Out... Real Myst

[@jakecreighton5887]

This is what I love about LDO. Here is an old game I’ve never played, but watching/listening as Gabe and Yahtz play and reminisce makes me feel as though I did. It feels so cozy.

[@Elberik]

When I was 12 I would watch cartoons while eating breakfast. Now I'm 21 and I watch Let's Plays

[@OCMOOO]

I want to shake your hand.

[@jordanadouglas7233]

Elberik

[@RAFMnBgaming]

But do you still eat breakfast?

[@Elberik]

You don't?

[@Elberik]

Yes?

[@Arkygator]

Myst was actually a pretty impressive achievement for such a small studio back in the early 90's. The idea was that they wanted to make a game that would appeal to adults. So with it being a dad game, I would say that they succeeded beyond expectations. Kids that grew up playing it are now dads themselves enjoying Myst.

[@ducksauce2696]

'I like Kevin Spacey when he is evil' - Lol that one aged poorly.

[@theblackwidower]

You know, I was just gonna post that exact same thing.

[@asdaasdsa]

lol

[@darcyhaze_r913]

"He's good at it"..... Yes, yes he was

[@sunshinethuggery]

"I like Kevin Spacey, and I like him when he's being evil." -Gabriel In light of recent revelations, this throwaway line is hilarious.

[@OdaSwifteye]

It cannot be disputed. He is good at it.

[@jacob4189]

One reason I like to go back and rewatch these videos is because of stuff like this.

[@hackett152332]

Lmao

[@psionicmight]

Okay. The Backstory Of Myst: TL;DR Edition. There was an ancient pre-human civilization on Earth called the D'ni that figured out how to link to different worlds using books. While some thought it was creating worlds, this process actually made use of the multiverse thing, with some worlds linked to being effectively doomed by the nature of their existence. The D'ni did some crap and eventually their civ fell to ruin. And the remainder of them scattered. Then one of the remaining D'ni named Gehn had a son named Atrus with some chick, then one thing led to another and eventually Atrus stole his wife Catherine from Gehn's world of Riven before locking his dad who turned out to be a dick in Riven as it was collapsing and escaping to their ideal paradise of Myst. And then they had kids, who turned out to also be bastards. Abridged TL;DR: People from Atlantis invented Minecraft and everything went to Hell. I read the little book thing meant to accompany the games like 14 years ago, so my memory of it is foggy.

[@duffelpuffelmcduff1181]

I love you.

[@abhilashmessi31]

I love you as well

[@Arkygator]

Thanks for clearing that up

[@DarthZounds]

As a fan of the Myst franchise, I can confirm you did a good job of summing up the backstory.

[@eddybugnot7093]

The puzzle design in Myst is actually pretty damn good and it's got great atmosphere. They even got into it at some points even if they wont admit it.

[@bloodrunsclear]

'His two sons fucked up his books and now he's cross' That's...actually not a bad condensation of the plot O_o

[@floataway3]

As much disdain as Yahtzee has for the game, this was my childhood playing these games with my mom and figuring out all the puzzles. It also taught me everything I know about worldbuilding, leaving little things that don't do anything but give the observer clues as to the backstory without just outright telling them.

[@MilanousMedia]

3:43 "reading text in a let's play is the sign of a terrible Let's Play" - Yahtzee Croshaw

[@Mythraen]

"In olden days, they made you try and remember shit." It's like Gabe and Yahtzee have completely forgotten that paper exists.

[@itzamedio5427]

I think its just a case of "cant be asked".

[@Mythraen]

David Brazie Not wanting to do it doesn't prevent you from knowing about it.

[@itzamedio5427]

Oh I think they know about it, but like I said, they just can't be asked.

[@Mythraen]

David Brazie Their comments indicate they think the game developers expected you to remember stuff. In actual fact, they probably expected you to write it down. I never said anything about Gabe and Yahtzee writing it down, so "they can't be asked" doesn't make any sense.

[@Dilandau3000]

Or, you know, take pictures of the screen with a smartphone, which is the modern way of taking notes in old adventure/puzzle games. :)

[@luckystriker842]

"His sons fucked up his books and now he's cross." Yup, that's pretty much the plot of Myst in a sentence.

[@jeffwren7815]

The best part is that they are like :"lets drown out" and then they get genuinely interested in the game.

[@Pebkio_Nomare]

I just recent played through Myst.. and Riven... and Exile... a few weeks ago. I couldn't remember the answer to any of the puzzles. In Myst, though, I remembered what I had to do to find the answers. I also used a notebook to record all the information I stumbled upon. Riven and Exile, though, are the games I had to relearn everything.

[@vinylrecollection8797]

This will always be my favorite Let's Drown Out segments. Thank you for years of entertainment.

[@PsychoWargamer]

"Kevin Spacey is good at being evil" Well at least that statement has aged better than the game has

[@TheDeviantGent]

As a longtime Myst fan, It is a genuine joy to witness your thought processes in action.

[@expressroute]

12:30 gabe predicts Wolfenstein the new order. Two seconds later Yahtzee predicts Wolfenstein the old blood

[@RarefoilB]

With each and every Let's Drown Out that comes in recent times, I curse the existence of slow news days.

[@Renegadebane]

Only Yatzee could successfully break the description of Myst down to one sentence. "His two sons fucked up his books and he's cross".

[@TheRadioSquare]

I didn't played Myst but I remember playing Riven as a kid and that was the hypest shit ever. I just love atmosphere in these games.

[@StraytheSkies]

"that will summon canadians" yes hello you called?

[@GrimmsSepulchre]

"0 Degrees is north, we didn't know that" Yahtzee, North is always 0 degrees in pretty much any game that involves a compass and a 360 degree circle D:

[@theblackwidower]

Not just games, real-life as well. If you've ever looked at a compass, you'd know that.

[@dorpth]

"Don't sell a game entirely on new technology or else it will age terribly" was probably the furthest thing from their mind as they were busy counting their mountains of money.

[@Renegadebane]

My Dad is the one who played this and he had a standard composition notebook that he would write his notes in on all the puzzles. He gets through all the worlds up until the rocketship and gets stuck because he's partially tone deaf couldn't solve the piano. He had the solution but he couldn't enter it right, he did this on and off for weeks after spending 2 or 3 years with the rest, cuz he was going for the good ending. Finally he just bought an electric tuner, did the piano, beat the rest of the level in an hour. Was kinda anticlimactic.

[@ShiniHLaser]

.304? Holy shit, that is 380% the legal limit in the States. That is well beyond alcohol poisoning.

[@joshcarter-com]

...which is why he was in the hospital.

[@ShiniHLaser]

Josh Carter Well, yes, but that the fact he could get so fucked up without long term damage is amazing itself.

[@ToastyPlays]

+ShiniHLaser long term damage is being friends with Yahtz

[@jaggerra7]

I love Myst and since I read the books behind the game, it was extra awesome to get to play in that world. It's such a peaceful game and I love the atmosphere and world building. I think this game requires a solid imagination and an active curiosity as well as patience. It's a very niche game so I can understand how some people will not enjoy it, but for me it's almost perfect.

[@MatchBreakers]

I remember playing this with my mom when i was 7. We could not figure shit out.

[@Meloncarty]

"For dads" so true. My dad had this game along side Lemmings and Doom II.

[@grindorblackout1986]

The music in this game is spectacular.

[@THISISAGUN3]

I remember when I played Myst when I was younger I was scared shitless, because I just thought something was following me for some reason, so I tried to get through it as fast as I could. I also remember being really proud of myself for solving a certain puzzle, I moved to the next bit and got my parents (I wanted to surprise them by me solving the puzzle) when I went back to the puzzle, it went unsolved. I just went "NOPE!" and quit the game fovever, and I've never played it since. I think I should.

[@BackwardRocketStudios]

Perfect timing; was just about to lie down!

[@alanwakeish]

Gabriel wants to be a teacher, but he doesn't know what his own country's flag fucking looks like? No wonder yahtzee calls him out on it.

[@jacob4189]

There's alot of stuff Gabe doesn't know. The thing is he thinks he's good at bullshitting but he's not.

[@frederickcolon3443]

@Stephen Robinson The constellation in the game has a passing resemblance to the southern cross bar the lack of epsilon crucis. Yahtzoid however is more wrong of the two for insisting that a cross must have a fifth in the middle. The Southern cross lacks this with the two axii being formed by the four main stars and outside of the Eureka flag, lacks a central star in all insignia and flags. New Zealand for example even omits epsilon crucis in their flag.

[@Jrez]

Gabe's description of Snowpiercer makes me think he kinda blew past the main conceit of the film on his way to the literal plot and technical details. It's still average to me, but like the biggest thing I got out of it was that the train isn't actually a literal train, it's civilization. Hence the whole class struggle thing, the lies, sacrificing children, etc. My only personal justification is that it's supposed to be silly so you'd realize it isn't meant to be taken literally, though I do agree it might be better if it could be taken literally.

[@origrammar]

I’ll have to agree. This interpretation of the movie is pretty much the death of allegory in my mind. Like ffs, “and then it turns into social commentary”. YES, YOU FIGURED THAT OUT? Still, I don’t know if this opinion has changed, I’m willing to give Gabe the benefit of the doubt.

[@svnhddbst8968]

drunk yahtzee is fun to listen to and watch from a safe distance

[@KefkeWren]

"This is one of those games full of block slider puzzles." - No block slider puzzles in the entire game.

[@weissendrachen]

Yeah he's an idiot

[@hackett152332]

Gotta be a Gabe quote - he ain’t got a clue

[@tsarfox3462]

You know, my immediate reaction to Gabe calling out Yahtzee for drinking Rose win was "Hey, I love Rose". Then I realized I'm a middle class white lady so, point withdrawn.

[@shaunroberts2037]

It does make me sad to think someone will see this and just assume Myst is boring, when it's strength nowadays is it's writing and world building. Kinda ironic that Yahtz didn't seem to appreciate it. Also dunno why Gabe thinks it's full of block sliding minigames. There's a whopping ZERO of em in myst

[@Julemacgrumble]

When Yahtzee becomes an alcoholic we can use these videos as a record of the development of his drinking behaviour.

[@23piz23mitch]

lol

[@JeremiahCecil]

Pretty sure he'd turned into one by the time he made the "Random Documents and Audio Logs" song in 2015...

[@GyroCoder]

"If you wanted to watch a video, it would be quite some tiime..." and then it buffers, as it has been every five seconds. YES, HA HA, BACK IN THE DAY

[@Arkygator]

"I like Kevin Spacey when he is evil." And now Gabriel can enjoy him being evil IRL.

[@Zetro_Hermit]

I laughed a little harder than I should have at the Fifth Element quote "Aziz! LIGHT!" That had to be one of my top favorite moments from the movie. I rolled as a kid watching that. and no, I have no idea how the little metal plate boys name is spelled. I guessed.

[@somedude221]

You guys should LP this entire game, no joke. That would be awesome.

[@888dni888]

If you get into the later myst games and the novels it's actually a really story-heavy series, and perhaps one of the most detailed and interesting sci-fi worlds I know. And no, I'm not a weird sci-fi nerd. Regular schmucks can appreciate this stuff too.

[@afgncaapthegreat2706]

I think it's strange that people think Myst's puzzles are difficult or abstract. Compared to many games of its ilk (whether it be Zork, Monkey Island of Leisure Suite Larry) Myst is incredibly straight-forward and almost mechanical in its design.

[@nyahola39]

"Ah, I loved watching these in middle school, two years ago." Uploaded 7 years ago

[@DNtoxin]

I agree with drunk Yahtzee, Myst does need a flame-thrower.

[@alexbeddoe5354]

5:27 Patrick Moore was The Games Master, not Patrick Stewart.

[@BakuraEX]

Funny story. I was actually drinking some Rosé while watching this 'Let's Drown Out'.

[@KekusLupus]

Just for the record, Gabe can't describe the movie "Snowpiercer" for jack-shit

[@mikemerrick4026]

You could remove the words 'the movie "Snowpiercer"' from this sentence and it would still be accurate.

[@hackett152332]

Gabe has an issue describing a piece of wood

[@EddJones25]

"That dark area that's dark"

[@Mythraen]

They're all talking about how the constellation puzzle is intuitive... there's a book on the shelf which matches the star formations to shapes. Still, good work solving it without said book.

[@KevinCarbonara]

I wish they'd go back and finish the game... it gets so much better.

[@zac9399]

"kevin spacey's good at being evil" oh very dear

[@stormtrooperelite1453]

Impressive, finally a mention of Withnail & I, such a classic

[@spiderjerusalem100]

I DEMAND TO HAVE SOME BOOZE!

[@Amethyst_Spark]

I was screaming in my head "THE KEY'S RIGHT THERE!!!".

[@PhantomEarth]

07:30 Yahtzee and Gabe praising Kevin Spacey... awkward

[@alangebhardt8286]

Did Gabe say "Aziz, light"? That makes me happy like you wouldn't believe.

[@FuriKitten]

A-A-Ar-A-A-Are you a German?

[@StartSelectGay]

It's so stupid but i laughed like an idiot while they were winding that battery and they made those strange noises.

[@mandowarrior123]

B."Y".C was doing the magic roundabout theme.

[@zoraxbrooks]

someone needs to make a loop of that.

[@StartSelectGay]

@Warren :O how did you know i was a clueless American who had no idea what that theme was?! ;)

[@mandowarrior123]

abusiveyoda Well, you would have expressed nostalgia for the show for one.

[@viperhalfdragon]

yes..... we are screaming at the screen

[@jamesphillips4009]

I would love to see a part two to this. But if not, I'm sure whatever else is done will be intriguing.

[@TimmyCherry]

Myst is one of those polarizing games -- you tend to either really enjoy it or really not. It does represent a time that I miss in that it was a focused production from a very small group of people; two brothers, in fact. They did pretty much everything: the design and writing, the sound and music (which was very good), and even the acting. Today's games feel like they don't really belong to anyone -- aren't anyone's real vision. Sure they're polished and huge, but they lose something when every plot point and line of dialogue feels focus-grouped and then worked on by dozens who do what the bosses tell 'em.

[@paustecri]

My friend, you need to delve into the world of indie gaming

[@TimmyCherry]

True, what I mentioned lives on in indie gaming. I'm looking forward to "The Witness", which Jonathan Blow has described as being influenced by Myst. Difference is that now indie gaming is a relatively small niche market, whereas Myst was the best selling game of all time for years following its release.

[@NetherStray]

"Would you like to summon a cassowary?" That phrase is just such a non sequitur to me. It's like the sort of thing someone would ask you in a dream and you'd reply "Of course, yes."

[@TheGummibearwarrior]

Dark souls 1 with no start item and bows only?

[@SixHod]

Woh, hold on there, Satan.

[@sseinfeld95]

55:40 for the past few days, I've been playing Sudoku while listening to podcasts. Nifty coincidence.

[@CerberusLives]

Patrick Moore was the Gamesmaster, Yahtzee, not Patrick Stewart. Tut tut.

[@BadMadChicken]

i love Gabriel. i have so much respect for that good man.

[@Vic2point0]

Stop donating plasma, dammit!

[@04whim]

I have Myst on the PSP... Suffice it to say I never got anywhere with it.

[@AlexanderHarris]

Holy crap, you guys solved the constellation puzzle without the reference in the library! Well done!

[@darthjoek2488]

we played this in primary school to "use it as a basis for writing" no one payed attention we just played, drawed and talked.

[@vaelethun]

Loved playing the Myst series when I was a kid. Other than III, I did have to consult FAQs like crazy, but it was a beautiful series, and very fun to explore. Didn't really have to be a dad to like or even follow it. The story's pretty straightforward, even cliched at times, but it's really good, and very dark and sad.

[@3lloGuvner]

I first played myst only a couple years ago now and frankly it blew modern gaming out the water for me.

[@BruceWayne-gv9zs]

are you a dad?

[@OdaSwifteye]

You really should play the indie games. Myst is quite on par with those games in terms of design.

[@liam24040]

Bruce Wayne you wouldn't know much about those would you?

[@lingricen8077]

“I like kevin spacey and I like it when hes being evil”

[@SparrowwithaMachinegun]

The new Robocop movie is fine, not great just OK. But this conversation. "Paint him black" "People like him silver, black would be intimidating" "I don't care paint him black, people don't know what they like until you give it to them" Fuck you film! I didn't care much about the old films so I have no nostalgia to ruin, but I know what I like and I like him silver. That scene (like the DMC white wig scene) was just a slap in the face.

[@bowrey118]

Neither of them are direct slaps to the face, they are both ironic references and foreshadowing, as both scenes end up being reverted. Dante has white hair by the end of DMC, and Robocop is back in his classic silver armour by the end of Robocop. Both aesthetic changes represent influence on the characters, with Dante's rugged appearance showing his lack of focus and care for the world around him, and Robocops black colour scheme representing modern influences and corporate line of thought.

[@liam24040]

John Gray that's why i liked the movie, it took the concept of the originals and applied it to modern culture. it's not just wallowing in the old ones.

[@lockonandfire]

The Iain M. Banks book Gabriel mentioned, Consider Phlebas, is well worth reading. It begins with a character chained up in a small prison cell. The cell is airtight, and in the rooms above a banquet is being held in his honour. As people go to the toilet, all their waste is channeled into the cell, where over many hours it will build up and drown the character. I loved that wonderfully sadistic concept so much that after hearing that, I straight up bought the whole book. I was not disappointed with the rest.

[@Pebkio_Nomare]

And thus we see the problem with giving the player a flashlight. Without that you'd realize just how important that charged battery was...

[@Pebkio_Nomare]

And the hint system isn't going to do you any good if you don't know the basics... like where degrees point to on a circle and what repeating klaxons are supposed to mean...

[@dik4316]

I'm personally used to counting degrees in a counter-clockwise manner, so that puzzle would've got me stuck completely.

[@Pebkio_Nomare]

Di, k >.> So you count degrees starting from 360 and counting down? It wouldn't work elsewise because nothing is designed to work backwards like the way you said. It's not like choosing the metric system over the english system. You'd be getting your numbers wrong every single time. I guess that's why you'd be stuck on this puzzle... or any degrees-based puzzle...

[@dik4316]

I'm starting at the right-hand side (on the clock it would be 3). It works perfectly fine in geometry (and related mathematical offsprings). And I'm not on good terms with geography, so you and your weird degree counting is something which I can take or leave, frankly. Edit, I start at 0, counting up, obviously. Counting down from 360 isn't really helpful when you have more than two pies.

[@Pebkio_Nomare]

Jimmy De'Souza Oh yes, obviously. We use those for lunch. And to let us know when it rains. Or when it's sunny. Or when it snows. We use them to remind us to drink fluids every day. It's not like they were designed and are constantly used to let us know when something has gone wrong.

[@ATFADL]

Dev 1: Lets base a hole load of puzzles on the player making the right ambiguous assumptions, while being confronted with mysteriously interconnected crap. Dev 2: (silence because the only other person hung him self)

[@bellboy64]

It's strange. I thought that Myst would've resonated Yahtzee more, being a Dark Souls fan. Very different games sure, but I mean more on the whole piecing the game together. Like that compass puzzle. It gave you everything you needed to solve it- all the pieces, it was just you needed was to figure it out. Guess it's just a matter of who has the patience for Myst.

[@Castodas]

So... unfortunately, these guys had no real appreciation for a bit of puzzle adventure and to top it off that was probably the most difficult puzzle to solve in myst (in my opinion) which dragged it even worst for them (I was stuck on that map forever compared to the rest of the game). Anyways, I think they are being a little harsh about it as it is a game that requires you to really explore everything. Books on the bookshelf in the observatory on Myst Island contains a good bit of information for navigating the first island- which was hardly explored at all. (The books also shed a bit of information on wtf is going on) The plot can be confusing, but it is really good and for those that enjoy Riven (and that is by far my favorite), this episode of the series is crucial to really understanding the rest. On a last thought, I really wish they would have gone the space ship route first, because watching them figure out the tones between the keyboard and the ship's computer (?) would have been quite entertaining. That and because that particular world was the most fun for me.

[@knife_wizard]

Oh, middle-aged white woman yahtzee is the best XD All Gabes are the best, as well.

[@thiscontent9621]

Am I the only one to notice how often Gabe sings bits of Devo?

[@Calculon1712]

There was even going to be a sequel to Pyst called Driven, parody of Riven.

[@snarkmarx]

6:59 "Hello, Welcome to Dr. Safe and Friendly's Perfectly Normal Dentistry!" omg lol

[@megapillow1]

Gabe " They should do one in WW2 with steam powerd mechs" Me "They are Wolfenstien the new order"

[@GumbaMasta]

Didnt ring of red for the ps2 do something similar?

[@megapillow1]

I've never heard of that game... so idk maybe

[@Farscryer0]

megapillow1 Bloodrayne -- for the Xbox, PC, PS2, and Gamecube -- had steam powered Nazi mechs once you got a bit far into the 3rd Act. I think that was Gabriel's thoughts when he brought it up.

[@glenngriffon8032]

"Alcohol was not the problem. I had a problem with alcohol- i had a problem i poured alcohol into." I can recognize so much of my former self in this quote. I didn't have a problem with alcohol, it was painkillers, but it had basically the same effect. I still happily enjoy various other substances but under very different motivations now and I've committed to not taking any more of the one that I had the problem with.

[@AstralPhnx]

Hell, I'm 15 and I love the myst series. I remember playing myst when I was around 6 or 7 and getting up to the first linking book. Still love the myst games.

[@Palora01]

"Something starting sequence activated" "Preparing to initiate the something" "Something has been effectively activated" "Something has happened to something, somewhere" "Do you wish to try something else?"

[@dartfast]

At 1:00:25 are you saying the puzzle is dumb because you have to press the right button instead of just dicking about with trial and error? Earlier Gabriel repeatedly just does a full circle of pressing and trying out all the buttons, if he had brute forced the puzzle would the solution have been more rewarding?

[@GalanDun]

I'd like to see you guys do a complete playthrough of Real Myst: Masterpiece Edition. I think it'd be funny.

[@JammyD2579]

+Alex Shannon Probably be longer than Lets Drown Out: All Of Dark Souls at this rate.

[@GalanDun]

JammyD2579 They should set up a Patreon so they could put out one episode a day.

[@Bluelunes]

It took me around 15 years to get around to finishing Myst. I honestly can't remember the solutions to most of these puzzles but I remember it taking a lot of effort to figure everything out.

[@Farscryer0]

I remember buying this once when I was so much younger. Then I played it for exactly an hour before I lost interest and went back to Perfect Dark. And that was the long and short of my puzzle game experience.

[@Big_Ranga]

oh my god 720p

[@ArcViper]

I have the entire Myst series lying around and now I kind of want to play them again, particularly Riven since it was so arcane to me as a kid and I never beat it on my own.

[@MoriyaMug]

I don't have words for how happy I am to see this video.

[@Brandon_Powell]

34:50 During that scene, the director told Richard E Grant that he would be drinking water but had secretly switched it to malt vinegar.

[@Dilandau3000]

As KZbin's foremost Let's Player of Myst games, I have to agree at least somewhat in that Myst has not aged well. But to say that it had "3D graphics and nothing else" is being a bit... unfair. What it had was atmosphere, intrigue, and exploration. Mixed with a bunch of puzzles with varying degrees of success. But at least Myst attempted to integrate the puzzles into an environment, unlike The 7th Guest which literally was just a collection of slide puzzles that were randomly presented to you in different room. Not to mention the most important part: Myst led to Riven, and Riven is and always will be the best game ever made.

[@GnosticAtheist]

Remember that none of these folks enjoyed the puzzled that much. For them this game probably didnt resonate much in the first place. For others (not me included) I can see why this game was very popular.

[@gibdopaminepls]

>Riven is and always will be the best game ever made. according to you

[@Dilandau3000]

Crimson Hound It's a scientifically proven fact! :P

[@888dni888]

Exile has always held the top spot in my heart. Squees!

[@porksauce3465]

You've made me afraid to watch, now … Considering how much Yahtzee rants on about how atmosphere enhances a game (SotC, SH2, Dark Souls), I'd have thought he'd take that to at least be a redeeming factor in this instance.

[@ShasOSwoll]

Did anyone notice Yahtzee "dudududud"'ing the magic roundabout theme?

[@Schwallex]

He only did it on seven separate occasions throughout the video. And only once did he explicitly say "That's the magic roundabout theme". How could anyone possibly notice that? You certainly didn't.

[@GreyMercury]

You can join in with Yahtz and Gabe at 41:50. I recommend a bassy 'Bom, Bom, Bom, Bom' rhythm. I hope we get more Yahtzee singalongs in the future.

[@Merick123456789]

whenever i watch these i find it amusing to imagine that they are recording these after they had sex oddly enough it seems fitting for each episode

[@MoonSafariFilms]

So that's what bodily fluid he's been donating.

[@philipm8273]

Watching Gabe trying to figure out what direction was Southeast gave me a little too much joy