Let's Play Some Jin Ranked - TEKKEN 8 BETA

[@MezaJedi]

So Kazuya's too weak, and Jin's too strong... I feel like TMM is about to come out and tell us he's about to main Lars.

[@pranavjain8774]

He’s actually the definition of mid character atm

[@emanuelegrooren8418]

I really dont think so

[@CorvoTanuar]

@@emanuelegrooren8418 Contrary to what you think, Kazuya is indeed weak at the moment.

[@emanuelegrooren8418]

@@CorvoTanuar no buddy l dont give a shit about kazuya, l dont think tmm will ever main lars, thats the thing.

[@CorvoTanuar]

@@emanuelegrooren8418 Alright then.

[@RyanBedecki]

42:00 Jin crushed the stream notification lmao

[@foreveruseless1292]

Lol

[@xpinoyxgoodness]

I love TMM’s reaction at 15:49 LOL. Died laughing

[@cyniic]

I get what TMM is saying about Jin but I also see why they decided to dumb down Jin for T8 and that's because he has to be VERY accessible to new players since he is once again the main protagonist. Many first time players will definitely try and play Jin because of that. As a Jin main for decades though, I still prefer T7 Jin but no hate on T8 Jin.

[@Reckshowingoff]

I honestly wouldn’t mind either way If they kept his complicated style or changing it I wanted to learn him either way but he feels so damn easy just learn a couple of moves and heat moves and u can climb ranks

[@MrLuc237]

Jin & Law mains: This isn't what we want for our characters... Harada & Murray: No, you don't know what you want. We know what you want.

[@Ace-tq9kr]

i love this version of jin

[@TheTyroofToriyama]

Jin’s 1,2,1 is some of the cheapest stuff I ever seen and all his combos look ultra easy I can definitely see myself leaning back towards being a Kaz main by accident

[@TheLifeLaVita]

that's literally true. They're much more fun to play with or against and yhey fit tekken 8 so much

[@J0ulez5]

Jin can-can launching his mother into next Tuesday will never not be funny

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

reacting to Jins d2 is going to be olympic sport after T8 comes out lmaoo

[@polishsausage648]

Unless they come to their senses and nerf it

[@Alex-Omega]

Its not even that hard tbh. Im sure good players can do so

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

@@Alex-Omega your comment screams classic FGC gatekeeping

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

@@polishsausage648 if they do that, i expect full jin mains riot in front of haradas house

[@Alex-Omega]

@@johnnymonsterrrr And your comment just screams "Im a scrub." So now after we both said nonsense to discredit the other one, you may can come up with a decent answer.

[@tekken1206]

The reason they probably “dumb down” Jin like you call it and easier to play is because they want people to play their flagship character. Like Ryu and Ken is for Street Fighter and Scorpion and Sub-Zero for Mortal Kombat that’s what they want for Jin. They also want him to be played in tournaments as well so if Jin is accessible to play why not.

[@Reckshowingoff]

Yeah he also said that in another video or stream that he’s the main character and want people to enjoy playing him or just to play him more in general

[@RosaryFGC]

Your reasoning is perfect, I feel the same way. It was always so strange that the flagship character was always hard to use. I feel like a lot of people are so caught up in ego about Jin.

[@Concealed.Revealed]

@3:24 Jin win quote: "Mother! I'm not doing my homework. Lmao! 😂

[@fancyhermit7]

The only chance they would bring back a "grounded" fighting style for Jin is if they remove the backflips in his attacks

[@Reckshowingoff]

I wasn’t a fan of jins trailer because of his moves but he’s hella fun to play honestly

[@TWC1602]

I agree with TMM about Jin being easier to play, I also feel the same when playing him

[@ButsMcgee]

Jin should be easy to start. Hard to master. Or just hard in general. Tekken 7 jin was perfect.

[@Veco_RM]

Nope

[@ArbazKhan-lk2uw]

Yep

[@bushwickbodegaguy8073]

Tekken 7 Jin Was Perfect

[@dova3162]

Mainman trying to hide thatt he loves JIN KAZAMA is the best 😂❤

[@Mr440c]

18:20 interesting how he's talking about characters strengths and what not and does not notice how his opponent just restored half the combo damage with one landed heat engager. Maybe these things are not such a big deal in the new system. We've yet to explore that. EDIT: the whole ff3 combo got negated. How strong exactly is Jin's 50/50 with that context?

[@Mrjacharles]

So excited to see what they do with Jin in story mode ... not sure many people care about story mode these days, but I like to follow it. :3

[@mrego886]

Did you just used ":3" That means only one thing....

[@englishorspanishCOG]

​@@mrego886I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE

[@Its_PizzaTime]

I play a lot of Jin in Tekken 7 and it took a while to start getting consistent wins with him. It felt pretty good. I'm also kinda disappointed that he's not super technical and challenging in Tekken 8, but he's one of the poster boys. He's a top pick and a favorite among tons of people, and they clearly don't fully understand him since his win rate is garbage. I think the dumbed down Jin sucks for the few who enjoy how hard he is to play, but for sake of getting more people to play the game and pick up Jin cuz he's a main character (and just looks cool,) then so be it. It's an unfortunate sacrifice that only a small percent of players have to deal with.

[@hamidrezaalai3760]

If TheMainMan becomes a Jin main, peeps might finally agree on his comments on how Kazuya is unfairly nerfed in Tekken 8 (CBT).

[@wantu7816]

Im glad they didn't actually give jin a hellsweep launcher we saw in the story mode teaser.

[@NYG5]

One thing is the characters' eyes look a lot better. It does a good job of at least trying to look a bit real

[@a_lc_mlatikur2455]

Jin melts through scrubs like butter

[@Zim-j1n]

Texas melt exact

[@Pollokyn]

Edgy anime protagonist with flashy moves :( bring Kyokushin Jin again

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

he should get full heihachi moveset so the loss of the grandpa isnt that painful and we can still remember

[@vector3366]

​@@johnnymonsterrrrwhat the fuck are you saying?

[@erzabryantara9004]

​@@johnnymonsterrrrthat'll be Kuma in this game

[@cetera.1778]

Thats what i said.

[@bruce3324]

​​​@@johnnymonsterrrrman heihachi would be sick in this game tho😑😂

[@magicdood7008]

Its crazy that people are calling mm is being elitist or salty that jin is strong. Hes just saying hes strong in a boring or less interesting way.

[@Reckshowingoff]

Cuz he’s easier and he’s the best in the game too strong for one’s liking but I was never a jin player I tried t7 and t8 he felt smooth and easy

[@josephquezada6138]

jin having an extension to his ws4 is insane because it means he has a way to get in quick, safely, and most of all with mental frame advantage because you'll likely respect the 4,4 so you can punish it. This means he can take a turn pretty easily from neutral. crazy.

[@mazenyasser7208]

He's playing Jin with only 4 moves, Demon paw, d1, f3 and electric. Maaaan

[@amnksp326]

Tmm Know exactly what he's doing, spam like a tard to say to everyone look how Jin is dumb to play and easy, he needs nerfs etc, he did the same on Tekken 7

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

TMM playing Jin: Three moves, take it or leave it.

[@mowb]

Thats Jin now. Not just TMM.

[@Beforezzz]

@@mowb If all you care about is winning against mediocre players sure, but there's more to the game than that. The same could be said about other characters, both in this game and T7. Nothing new.

[@mowb]

@@Beforezzz No character in T8 has such good toolkit. D2 alone is the best move in the game.

[@Beforezzz]

@@mowb In the beta maybe. Game's not out yet. And like I mentioned before, this is nothing new. So what if he requires little effort to thrive, he'll just be joining the crowd. There's more than one way to play Jin. If everyone wants to be an optimal obsessed moron then they'll only get more predictable.

[@Zagryzaec]

That's how Jin always been. Spam f4, if not get free ch, do hellsweep get full combo unreactable. They start read and duck - do long range mid launcher whatever it's called. Was it safe on block like electric? Three move. Well you could add panic parry and kan kan if you getting bodied but how did you end up bodied with such easy and safe gameplay in the first place is a question

[@walterbarros1854]

I think this is because of his win/pick rate percentage, one of the most picked Characters but if you dont know him well he is not accesible because of his hard execution and learning curve, not saying he was the hardest character in tekken 7 but he certainly is a fan favorite and people get frustrated for not being able to use him. Few people are willing to get completely reck by everybody else just to learn his basics. This is also applies to Kazuya and the rest of the roaster in Tekken 8, in the arcade tutorials the messages encourages the players to be more aggressive and so the mechanics of the game like the heat system. I think is not something bad, they are trying to attract new players and also give a fresh flavor to the game. If people dont like it they will stay in tekken 7 servers.

[@riahisama]

Jin's hellsweep became so obsolete it's insane

[@kachucho872]

Jim's oki did get better tho

[@VengeanceTK]

Not even close to obsolete.. you can spam it and you get very good oki off of it. I like it more then T7

[@mann0311]

It's still decent for when you get meme eyes transitions for a low.

[@Mr440c]

You don't know shit, man. It's as relevant as ever.

[@lupusge2503]

way more fair than tekken 7 version

[@curio5220]

12:00 I see his point. I used to play Millia in old Guilty Gear and when AC came out I thought the EX moves made her braindead and unfun. Strive kind of made everyone worse in that sense. The other side of his point though is that you risk drop off if one of the main characters is too hard to use.

[@bushwickbodegaguy8073]

I’m extremely excited too see how Jin holds up in this New game

[@Dark-xz9xt]

13:28 i understand what he is saying and its certainly coming from him as a seasoned player but then on the other hand there aren't many people that just play tekken all the time and i personally always liked Jin since T3 onward. But in T7 after some patches he was literally almost impossible to play online and actually have fun with due to such a high skill level required to optimally use him. T8 jin with all this heat stuff was so much fun to play, i really hope he doesn't get mega nerfed like in 7

[@ridakesserwan8712]

MainMan dislikes this jin becuase past jins require you to confine yourself in a basement for 40 years to use his tools efficiently, which is ridiculousl, he's arguably the hardest character in the game now in T8 being more streamlined, he had to become more easy , i agree he still need some nerfs, but most of his counterhits were nerfed coming t8 as well

[@Alex-Omega]

As a Jin main, I understand MainMan. You can definteley say that Jin is more boring in Tekken 8. But on the other hand, hes the main character and I always wondered if its so clever that the main character is so hard to play. Imagine newbies picking him or Kazuya up and just getting beaten up all the time like it happend in Tekken 7. I dont think thats good for the game in a marketing sense. Personally, Idk what to think of it yet. I can play a difficult Jin the same as an easy Jin. However, maybe I start hating it if less experienced people suddenly beat me due to Jins new easy tools.

[@screammer_xd]

as a less experienced tekken player i gonna say that will not be possible

[@NvrCryToaster]

That's the entire essence of Tekken tho, nothing comes for free. If you want to play a really strong but honest character, you have to put in the work. Only then will people respect you. You can't play a brainded low effort/ high reward character (negan and noctis for example) and then expect people to show you the same respect as they show someone who has mastered an actually difficult character like T7 Jin. The reason I played jin is because he perfectly rewarded the player for their skill.

[@MegaKhalid121]

He wasn’t that hard to play to begin with though

[@RedHotChiliPigno]

Damn i felt bad for that Lili.....poor girl...

[@marcanthonytiquia7115]

Have you ever thought that T8 Jin's new broken low input shouldn't be d+2 but d1+2? So that jin still get a down jab if you mis input an electric

[@hrleinad]

you wouldn't get a down jab for mis inputting an electric, though. He didn't get one in any of the Tekkens prior to 8. Unless you are doing something really weird with the input, you would get a df+2.

[@marcanthonytiquia7115]

@@hrleinad you get a down jab if you mis input an electric. Saying its a mis input but it is just a general term, but in reality you get a down jab if input the electric too early. So you still can say you it is a misinput. And you only get df2 if you truly messed up the execution. If you execute the electric right but just pressing the 2 button too early you will always get a down jab

[@marcanthonytiquia7115]

@@hrleinad yes d and 2 should be never pressed at the same time, but if you did pressed the 2 too early to be matched with the time you inputed the df, you will get the d2 and it is true for most of the Mishima players

[@hrleinad]

@marcanthonytiquia7115 I suppose it depends on the controller used then. When I do happen to mis input it, I get df2, always. There's no way to get d2 because 2 is never pressed at the same time as d, but a frame later.

[@parfaitcell3067]

Did he even know how to use heat bounce? I have never seen him do the bounch+Flip+dash in a combo like it supposed to

[@i-m-bunny]

As a jin main i think imma gonna love this video

[@i-m-bunny]

@culverin2764 yes 🥲

[@riahisama]

@culverin2764 some Jin mains see it as good news so it's subjective, still I don't know how anyone would see Jin as anything but an identity downgrade, they kinda ruined him

[@YokaiSteve]

For legacy players I can see why making Jin strong and easy would be an issue and less skill expressive, but as a developer it's smart to bring in new players since he's the hero again. Overall though most characters in a way got simplified, just not sure how I feel about easy access to electrics off of down~forward buttons like Reina and Jin has.

[@Cdawg6429o]

That double hop kick launcher is awesome

[@madarawarin7918]

it's fun when you know that you are winning the match not jin by your skills i am a T3 T6 T7 jin main and i really enjoyed T8 kazuya way more than jin and this is the first time i play kazuya i feel like the game in genral now easier than T7 but i really felt that i carry the charcter not the charcter carry my poor spacing or excution

[@payamdg2358]

one the reasons jin is easier now i think its because of the reason of him being the poster and main character os the story so a lot of people are gonna use him. they want you to enjoy the game not get iriitated by how hard it is

[@soulpach_]

Didn't happen in t5. He was the mc and poster boy in that game and was the weakest character in the game

[@Beforezzz]

@@soulpach_ Yeah, but vanilla T5 didn't have online. Balancing wasn't such a serious subject back then and most people couldn't even tell the difference between characters.

[@NicoMambino]

Then why not do the same with Kazuya. He’s literally the main villain and the 2nd poster boy with Jin. Bamco’s idea mindset doesn’t make sense

[@NicoMambino]

^ & Kazuya isn’t easy to play at all, compared to Jin no longer needing to use wavedash moves. Especially with d2

[@payamdg2358]

U guys need to understand that a new wave of players are not going put their time on a fighting just to learn a character and if there is no new players then no money. U can put 100 hours on T7 jin and still not know the extent of his power. Not T8 jin. U can learn him in like 2 hours or so. It's all about marketing and u guys arguing about it is a marketing way itself for jin. It's like all you legacy players want to gatekeep Jin

[@SpectralSound.]

Damn,as a Jin main it brings me a huge smile on my face seeing kids whinning and tripping like monkeys about kazuya😅 keep them coming

[@dat1faclesdude]

oh shit here we go again!

[@aaronburnett2261]

Challenge over ez wins. I prefer Challenge. It's like to boxers get in the ring. One gets to bring a shotgun. Some ppl just want to win. Challenge and Overcoming Your characters weaknesses is the draw of real fighters. Other ppl just want Wins even if they didn't earn it. And unfortunately games are catering to the majority for money. (At first at least. Patch updates😅

[@NvrCryToaster]

Exactly! The entire reason I loved playing as T7 Jin is because every time i won a match, I knew it was because I was better at Tekken than my opponent. I could literally see my progress as I mastered the character and rose through the ranks. Now all that fulfillment and honor will be striped away, the characters identity will be striped away, so that the game can pander to new players who don't want to put in any effort and just be able to play the cool character + win.

[@ql7204]

​​​@@NvrCryToasterJin is top tier in t7 also. His strings alone are god tier and require advanced option selects to beat. He is not this high IQ character you guys make him out to be.

[@benzhq563]

Does the customization here have the hairstyle change included?

[@Zagryzaec]

Tmm talk about not liking dumbing down character and right after that i see him doing f4 like 7 times in a row.

[@Rizingfz08]

And that shit select screen music still there...

[@TJBlack3.5]

JukeBox should fix that shit

[@bruce3324]

exactly 😂 something fifa would use ..

[@jonteguy]

I agree, I think Jin should remain hard, at least to some extent because he his a Mishima. I don't mind his new style though I actually think that is pretty sick. But to keep going on this, people who say it's better now are people who don't enjoy challenges most likely, which is fine. Personally it's what makes games fun for me, this is why I love games like Sekiro, Dark Souls etc. Even if they are not extremely hard they are harder and more interesting than 90% of the games out there today.

[@FAISALALYAHYA-69]

Bagoosh!

[@mariamontalvo3717]

There are only 19 but they said there were gonna be 32 counting Dragunov, leo, steve and shaheen which would be 23 characters in total until now

[@vbusev2545]

I'm waiting on Lee 🤞

[@SpectralSound.]

Buff Jin even more pls Harada.And nerf Kaz to the ground.

[@Lardonian]

😢

[@SpectralSound.]

@@Lardonian 🤗

[@MrMangus]

harada is going to see this and personally turn up jin's damage slider

[@Datenshi-Beats]

Don't ask him for shit

[@rRagnaBR]

T7 Jin without any nerfs he got there(like magic 4's nerf) vs T8 Jin. Witch is stronger?

[@jackstilo]

I think he's just mad that Kazuya is not as strong as Jin XD

[@Crowbar]

Barely anyone plays claudio, despite him being op... they should have brought back lidia instead of him...

[@kain1144]

100% agree

[@unkn0wnmortaL]

Bro fr last hour of beta i saw claudio once and thats it, rosters kinda sad rn imo

[@NvrCryToaster]

That's because no amount of OP can fix the fact that he is lame.

[@helgenlane]

They should've brought back Lei in main roster frfr

[@nx47]

Most of Claudio’s move set looks like he’s performing on stage at an opera drama during the 1500’s, looks lame in a game with real life fighting styles and moves like the OMEN

[@Mr440c]

Jin was actually always consistent and easy to use for the most part since T4 with easy combos. A Jin main never had to learn hard micro dash combos to optimise and what not. TMM has to admit that he's the only freak that likes that about Tekken. This kind of feature belonged to characters like Kazuya and Lee who had very clunky and hard to execute bnb combos in Tekken 5 DR while being some of the strongest characters. Up to Tekken 7 Jin was building up strength while remaining consistent for the most part. Now the character is both strong and does not require a lot of execution. As a main I love that shit. I never liked having to do micro dash combos to optimise no matter how fulfilling it is to do them. What's fun to me is mashing his sick karate moves like b1,2; f3,1 and such. And if you do like execution you can still go for electric follow ups after ws 2 and ecd 1 since generic jumpikick in combos is gone now. Also no one is talking about nerfed wall carry. In T7 Jin can throw you at the wall from a mile away run up and do max dmg combo. Aris always called the character a bitch for that. That's probably why the guy in the chat said Jin is better in T7. I sure hope devs don't listen to TMM because his view on the game is stuck in T5DR times and he's pathologically fixed on Jin while even seldomly paying the character himself. Why do you care?

[@azuresaiyan9005]

Combos aren’t the only things that make a character hard. In 7 and most of the games with his karate style Jin had to use most of his kit for many different scenarios, as not one move was a catch all answer. T8 has reduced it to where you only need to know 4 moves making most of his moveset redundant. It also takes some of the journey aspect of learning the character. That isn’t something only MM feels that’s something a lot of fg players feel, the emergent gameplay element that’s seemingly being removed from newer games.

[@Mr440c]

@@azuresaiyan9005 You're talking about things not related to Jin then. My personal issue with TMM is that he's an influencer who appears to be able to push his oppinion to Namcops for some reason unfortunately. Considering this it's annoying to me how he's focused on Jin so much while for example DamageXCaling's oppinion on Jin is way more comprehensive and I'd rather devs listen to guys like him than TMM. Df1 range is overtuned, yes. D2 is overtuned, yes. 2,1,4 shouldn't knockdown/splat, yes. But those are minor issues to me. They can be fixed rather quickly and the character is fine. You can boot up T5DR and see fo yourself that Jin staples are some of the easiest as well as his low parry follo ups except for wall combos. No good wall splatting moves except electric and ultra unsafe and slow df4. Otherwise he's accessable af but rather weak. So if the general direction is that each new character is more and more accessible AND strong I see no reason for Jin not to be so. PS df1 should have gotten bigger range a long time ago anyways. For too long 2,1 has been rather inconsistent and could suddenly wiff on second hit.

[@SpectralSound.]

As a Jin main too i love the new changes,and i'm having soo much fun seeing him whinning about his kaz.i really hope they nerf kaz even more.i want an 2024 full of tmm cries.😅

[@TouChan2957]

3:00 the damage on Jun’s projectile 😨

[@mistashadow]

that's just her Heat Smash, don't worry that said, I did not know it was a projectile

[@paapa-kofiagyekum1814]

When I’m in a complaining competition and my opponent is a Tekken player 💀

[@gabrielpanagsagan9741]

*LOL players enters the stage*

[@SpectralSound.]

Tmm: i told my gf: consider me dead. She always did man,just like your first.😊

[@yannaedc5934]

26:47 LOL

[@chikachikaslimshady1]

how are u getting younger and handsomer bro arent u old?

[@Zagryzaec]

Is jin d2 launch on ch or am i hallucinating?

[@Heihachi8]

Miseteru Kazuya got nerfed hard Bwhahahahahaha

[@Karma-Larma]

Nice to see New Player do the homie drop

[@RezDK]

It's funny how tmm shts on weebs for liking anime while shouting sht like "omae-ka" while looking like having he's having a seizure, acting immature all the time. I'm barely into the vid and see that 2:32 👏👏

[@gilgandantomega2796]

So Jin is the Luke of this game

[@jonathandavid3393]

Jin being easy is a meta marketing decision, if the game doesn’t sell because new players get gatekept for hundreds of games and not even feel like they are improving honestly fair enough why would you play or buy a game you know you just get trashed on even in the lowest ranks. Most people just want to see cool characters doing cool things and shit on their friends not much more than that. And t8 I think found a pretty good middle ground between the veterans and casual plebs like me. ( this is the take of someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about im mostly a platform fighter player)

[@eternal.plagas]

jin is beautiful

[@jevonross456ameby9]

Maymad is gonna be playing my boy jin He's my secondary main in t7

[@las_luffy6771]

Yes, I understand your point of view that jin has become easier and is no longer that difficult, but for me, I suffered a lot in Tekken 7 B jin, but I am happy that it has become easier so that I can master it well . Yes, people who have mastered jin in Tekken 7 Sero have become bored with it. It is easy to master and everyone can play it, but for me this is a good thing because I too was suffering from the difficulty of Jin, and also one of the reasons why it became easier is because he is one of the many losing characters in Tekken 7 online and how difficult it is.

[@Nico-tz7ut]

there is nothing to master about t8 jin

[@MrLuc237]

Hi, completely disagree. I myself have plenty of characters around blue ranks, emperor, tekken god prime etc. Not Jin, he's one of my most played characters but I just can't seem to get him up there with the rest. However, my Jin being hard stuck in purple/blue ranks doesn't bother me. Thing is, I'm not a good Jin player and that's fine with me. It doesn't hold me back from enjoying the character at all. He has tools that are easy to access like good punishment, a hopkick and good lows. In both T8 tests the first character i picked up was Jin and oh boy. It felt like all this time i've been practicing Jin has all been for nothing because here you go, a dumbed down character anyone can play without any effort. It doesn't feel rewarding to play Jin in this game. It doesn't make me feel good when I win with Jin in this game, because all i do is spam the 3 moves TMM mentioned and you win the game. It's as simple as that. It's good that some characters aren't easily accessible. Start off with a simpler character first so when you get good fundementals you can start playing the harder characters who give bigger rewards for learning them. That's how I went from playing claudio at T7 launch hard stuck in orange ranks to playing DVJ and Jin in purple ranks-tekken god ranks. Same in MK where i went from playing a braindead character to learn fundementals like baraka to playing shang tsung, one of the more complicated characters which was completely out of my league when i started out playing that game. Glad you're enjoying him in T8 tho. Doesn't really seem like the devs have any intentions of making any of the characters even slightly difficult anyway so my entire opinion on this is pointless.

[@NvrCryToaster]

I'm glad that you're happy with the changes, but I don't think you understand the argument Jin mains are making. Jin was a character that many people loved to play BECAUSE he was difficult and complex. What made playing and mastering Jin in T7 such a fulfilling experience was the fact that a win with Jin showed mastery over the game. His entire identity as a character was in the fact that he fairly rewarded the player based on their skill. In a sea of easy, low skill high reward characters, Jin was a truly honest character that was also competitive. You could win a match and be completely content knowing that you won because you were better at Tekken, not because your character carried you to victory. Now that honor and prestige is all gone and any scrub can do well with Jin. If your not willing to put in the effort to properly play such a cool character, why should you be rewarded for it? I know this all sounds incredibly pretentious, but it's how I feel about Jin as a character.

[@kainslegacy666]

Dude, why would you play Jin in 7 if that's your mindset? You have literally more than half the cast if Jin is too hard for you. People like this character for the sense of satisfaction it brings to make him work right, it's not easy but it feels incredible. Thats what makes Jin so good in 7. Hard to master but rewarding at the same time. The more you master the more reward you get with this character.

[@tk_jin3787]

you’re not a true jin main with that kind of mindset bc alot of true Jin mains hate T8 Jin bc now he doesn’t have that Down too earth Kyo kushinKarate nd he’s easier than Leroy in T7 lol it’s not fun but i still play him bc i love the char nd have played him for almost 2 decades

[@aidanru.2469]

If they nerf D2 and bring back the classic zen cancel of Tekken 7 and Tag 2, then T8 Jin would be perfect to me. I do agree that T8 Jin is too easy and that is what would remedy this issue

[@krauserdelacruz1065]

25:09 😂😂😂

[@r0364]

Jin T8 = its just Devil jin T7 obunga playstyle before he get nerf. (imo)

[@loxzone1]

The only issue I have with Jin's new gi design is that his wrists and hands look disproportionate.

[@Lbdataz1469]

I'm glad F4 is still as busted as ever.

[@champloo9058]

I felt proud being a jin main because he's not easy to use but now I don't think so. I hope they make him less "brain dead" i doubt it tho. Mainman is right. There are so many "easy" characters to use why do they have to take these "legacy" characters and "modernize" them? Imo it destroys the Tekken "identity". Gimme the Jin i gameplay i fell inlove with.

[@xypherpl9506]

Ah yes, kazuya is now boring cause u cant do 17 electrics in a row in 1 combo and do 9 million damage...

[@soulpach_]

Well he didn't say that...He said he's boring because he only has like 2 ways to combo and no wall carry...

[@NvrCryToaster]

How many people have you fought that can do a perfect electric combo?

[@NicoMambino]

Ppl complaining about Kazuya is hilarious, when Jin (& devil Jin) have always been the better pick. In t7 & ofc this game.

[@PijuTheBobJunior]

No, kazuya is boring cause they made almost all his new tools unsafe. B22 unsafe, db1 unsafe, his string needed nerfs but is now only a wall combo.. His F3 has a new cool animation but we can't use it cause it has no pushback and it's easily punishable

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Lez go Shmexy pants

[@Osamabinlagging69]

they best not dumb down my steve

[@parfaitcell3067]

This is boring to watch, he didn't even use the Heat properly to extend combo and heat smash

[@kato093]

Just watching jin i have zero interest in playing him because he just looks generic gameplaywise. He lost his identity with all those flashy af moves and dragunov's best move (as if he he need that...). I sont understand the need to make ALL characters braindead and flashy. Especially in a game thats about grounded more realistic martial arts. Best part? Devil jin IS a character too. So...kazuya is flashy now but he is shit. Jin is op and plays like everyone else. Devil jin os gonna be even more bonkers and braindead. No heihachi.. The mishimas are dead. But at least i have no doubts they will leave lee the same trash super hard character. Who am i kidding, lee will play like bob but be bottom of the barrel. Why are people so hyped about tekken 8 anyway? Its like the people that were hyped about mortal kombat 1 or 11. Sure, the graphics are much better but the game is stupid and it lasted 5 months. Yay i guess?

[@cesare4214]

Thats a T7 elitist opinion. We new players dont care about how many hours it took you to master a T7 character. Fighting games are about making decisions, not spend 5 years in practice mode. Thats why we get Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6 with modern controls and Project L. Fighting games are finaly getting better. No more crazy inputs.

[@momop788]

@@cesare4214not that the fighting game inputs are getting better, they are becoming more easier to reel in casual players. And it’s not a bad thing, but for “elitists” it’s kind of disappointing that the combo is not rewarding because it’s easier, imagine training in fighting games for years and then boom everyone can combo through one button 😂

[@NicoMambino]

New players, the problem why us, Tekken players are pissed that Jin is super buffed, and hella easy to play, is cuz first off, why didn’t they do that to Kazuya? Kazuya is also a main character/main villain too, but why is he pretty hard to play as/ not beginner-friendly, and his combo damage is nerfed? The idea of main character should be easy & characters should be much easier to use now in modern gaming - it doesn’t reflect what you or Bandai Namco promised. If All characters should be easy to play, then explain Kazuya.

[@PijuTheBobJunior]

​@@cesare4214you already have easy to play characters like Claudio, azucena.. there is no need to make Jin easy

[@reservationatdorsias3215]

They gave Jin this god tier low, but they took away Nina’s DB2 and B4 🗿

[@mistashadow]

so uh... just how unreasonable is his d+2 currently?

[@polishsausage648]

Just watch the Video and you’ll get to know Lmao

[@erzabryantara9004]

Basically half of his arsenal is d+2

[@jinexodus8879]

Wait, where is the law be fought?

[@madarawarin7918]

when main man talking about identity its like giving your charcter weakness and pros like T8 king as example very slugish not a good movment but tanky and a grabing game play no eather charcter can chalnge . i'm not sure if the poor movment is acceptable but sure its very suits the charcter design . if your charecter can do anything efficient and easy . thats a power creep ruinng the game atleast should be hard to do .

[@JohnSmith-yn9ju]

I haven’t used Leroy in T8 but in T7 he feels so cheap. I was winning too easily with him, no fun at all.

[@hrleinad]

Sadly dumbing down characters is a byproduct of Tekken 8. All characters were dumbed down. Kazuya and Jin, as dumbed down as they were, are still less simple than the rest, though.

[@sukunasan9441]

As a jin main, even though i don't really like him being easier to play, it's fine, i don't mind it that much, i also don't mind him being stronger, what i throughly dislike is the fact that he's VERY easy to play now, due to the strenght of 2,1,4 and D2... it really kills creativity and, at least from what we've seen in this video, he's so strong and easy that you see him more than every other match, which is a shame, cause he looks cool as hell, even able to acces classic hellsweep and electric, that's so cool... but c'mon a slight nerf to D2 and 2,1,4 so that he's not as braindead to play would be nice, he'd still be easier to play than in tekken 7 sure, if that's what they want, sure, I disagree but sure, just don't make him THAT easy to play

[@LeiChaobruh]

he's so fucking easy mode in this game

[@erzabryantara9004]

Yea compared to T7, T8 Jin feels very very easy to play

[@Asura6ix]

Jin needs buffs.

[@somber087]

💀

[@kaizokun8]

So for Tmm Kaz is weaker then most characters, but it's great, because you actually have to think.

[@spaljenimaslacak7663]

I am a casual, but isn't this kind of like T4 just not as cool ?

[@rush-ingaming3341]

I think Kazuya changes are okay, that character has been boring. All I ever saw people do is his dumb spin kick attack and his charge punch, it looks like now the animations on his broken stuff is slowed down a little so you can now block that bull sht even if you don"t know the exact timing. It would be annoying having to literally fight 20 trash kazuyas just to fight a good kazuya, then when you start beating the better kazuya they just revert back to the same unlockable fast animation spam bull sht that the trash Kazuyas sit and spam.

[@NicoMambino]

You’re talking about the new df 3 into charge up punch with Kazuya, That’s what you felt was spammy with Kazuya? I didn’t fight a Kazuya who ever did that. In both CNT & CBT. I never found it a problem.

[@rush-ingaming3341]

@@NicoMambino Idk his moves names. But when I would play tekken 7 and that free version of tekken that was on playstation. Literally every single Kazuya would do the spin kick thing, then spam his punch where he has some energy come off of it. and they would just spam it to get the most boring kick into juggle combo iv ever seen in a game. It almost would make me rather fight the yoshimitsu players that spammed his spin, then did his little sword stilts walk combo over and over, because atleast you could jump over his, or side step it. The kazuya players would just spin after you like a bay blade, then keep doing it over and over to the point where you had to beat them or let them spam. And it would just be so boring. You either beat them because they spammed or you lost to them because they spammed. It was literally the only two moves they would do, and they would spam his grapple that makes him lean you over his waist and flip you, then the screen changes the side your on. It was so annoying. I did not fight them all the time, but some days, I would get like 3 to 10 of these players in a row, or I would get the same player on a win streak while im trying to just play and have fun, or try out ranked. But these experiences basically made me hate that character, because the way he did it, and the way the dev team broke laws, both of them could just spin to win and it was annoying because they don't have slow or easy to dodge attacks.

[@aaronburnett2261]

I must say Jin game play is pretty uninteresting. Bet it feels great, but not looking varied at all.

[@Beforezzz]

The crappy thing is that he actually has alot of cool moves, but everyone will typically stick to meta.

[@aaronburnett2261]

@Beforezzz true. That's unfortunate. Tekken has tons of amazing LOOKING move, but the "pros" stick to meta and their kit looks stale. They get wins, but.. its a rinse and repeat...shame

[@kadavercade3597]

buff jin

[@cesare4214]

Easy and strong please yes!!! Cant wait for Tekken 8

[@systemkillerinner3]

In the real Game Will be Nerf soon

[@polishsausage648]

Hopefully. His d2 is obnoxious

[@SS_Sin_Of_Pride]

214 should give plus frames on CH not a knd. Also d2 really needs to go. Like...DVJ already has db2 which is essentially the same move except DVJ only knock downs. F4 pickup should be much harder if you dont fullly commit to zen. Also its pretty stupid how he can get 80 dmg with cd1 with no walls, no rage ect. Meanwhile Kazuya struggles to do more than 70. They made Jin too easy, they shat on Kazuya. God I hope they dont ruin Lee. INB4 Lee's slide is going to be some dumb shit like FC df3. P.S Please Namco for the love of god buff backdashes PLEASE.

[@HeavisideDelta]

2,1,4 spam hahhaa

[@Gamingawesomeness121]

God the combos suck now… They gave us such long combos with such great freedom to only make them shorter then they were in T8 WTF is that?!? Man that sucks

[@Beforezzz]

I like long combos but I don't like being in the air for six seconds either. My hope is that they give us more combo freedom in some form offline.

[@frankjaeger1711]

Mainman is not doing optimal combos. If you want to see what long Jin combos look like in t8, look at Devilsters channel. He’s definitely the most optimized Jin player in the world. Not saying the best since he’s not a professional player, but definitely the most optimized with great execution. He has beaten atif butt in a mirror match twice though and destroyed cherry berry mango in a mirror as well. Although tbf, cbm was probably out of practice with Jin.

[@RedHotChiliPigno]

The amount of excellent safe moves that Jin have is just absurd.... You can throw loads of shit at your opponent without taking any risk

[@qthestruggler2715]

T8 Jin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>T7 Jin

[@ShikiRyougi05]

No

[@TJBlack3.5]

Nope, not as stylish

[@riahisama]

Delusional

[@Rizingfz08]

Wrong, T7 Jin has better combos, sound effecfs.

[@TJBlack3.5]

we all prefer the DUHHHH sound too