Let's Rock, Baby! Devil May Cry 2 Retrospective (Loud Audio Warning @

[@Foxcade]

Yes, I am aware of the audio problems with the intro, which is why I have the annotation at the start to warn people to lower their volume. KZbin won't let me fix audio issues in post, so unfortunately this is the best I can do to fix it. I'm really sorry if it caused some unpleasantness with the audio spike. :/. This is an older video where I forgot to balance the audio on the intro, which was edited together separately and has a different audio levels to everything else. My newer videos have less of these problems since I learned from it, so maybe check those out instead :)

[@SupaDanteX]

You can actually do different attacks (not just Stinger and the default combo), it took me ages to figure out, but by holding the movement direction in different directions (Towards the enemy, or to the left or right) you could do entirely different combos. However, that being said, it never felt even close to the tight control a master has in any other DMC game.

[@beefypanda88]

In part 2 I feel fainted personality is so broody is cuz the character is based around 1990s gackt

[@Pirouyy]

Holy sh*t I dind't had notifications on, and the intro made me jump to my roof xD

[@trod146]

Foxcade 85% of people do not have annotations turned on and for those of us who watch via smartphones/mobile annotations aren't even an option for us, we can't turn them on or off or even see them anyway. So ìncluding a little annotation in the beginning doesn't do anything for anyone and not fixing the awful clipping in post is just fucked up. You're only alienating all of your viewers and ensuring a struggle for your channel.

[@rayraygottago]

I know there's a warning but god it scared me!

[@theawesomeduo54]

"Devil's never cry" is his pick up line for demon babes.

[@igodreamer7096]

Indeed hahahahaahahaha

[@mochablade4237]

@Jake Howe Devil May Swallow

[@Xarieq]

And devil may cry is his reaction to rejection

[@Sercil00]

I remember DMC 2 as "the one where you roll through empty streets and ruin Dante's coat, and then you shoot at bosses for half an hour, then you hope they'll get your health down so you can use the invincible Majin form and finish them off in 3 hits."

[@martinn2650]

they could have at least given us a reason why Dante was so shitty for the first 15 missions of this 18 mission game... ...like seriously! Couldn't have they said that he had payed 50% extra taxes or that his pizza arrived cold or something?

[@kersaherpafuqer784]

Right?

[@eldredjonas8012]

Defending the dmc1 story around the 7 minute mark is laughable. Story was horrible in dmc1, no matter how "simple" it is to understand.

[@peacemaster8117]

I'll defend the DMC story all day: it established a world, a protagonist, an antagonist and a series of obstacles. At the end of the story the protagonist completed an arc. At the most basic level, it succeeds at being a story. Can't say that about DMC2.

[@spartan3924]

I got the feeling that after all the shit he went through he just got tired of evil stuff happening and kind of withdrew into himself a bit Edit: I got the impression this was later into the timeline and still struggle to think of where this game fits in from the other games, I'd easily say after 1 and 3 but where it fits in with 4 doesn't make sense considering the massive attitude shift and lack of any other characters Also they tried way too hard to make him cooler than the first game version which meant make him brooding and give him Diesel clothes

[@gamer65688]

@@spartan3924 DMC Time Line as far as I can tell: 3>1>4>2

[@The13thElysium]

I loved Lucia hopefully she will make a comeback she has a lot of potential but needs to be reintroduced into the series!!!

[@TyranusRex721]

Let's hope she gets into Devil May Cry 5!

[@vashythewabbit8288]

Unfortunately, Itsuno is still scared to add anything from DMC2. In fact the recap in DMC5 basically skipped 2 by giving it only 5 seconds of mention lol

[@jasonnguyen5663]

Kenneth Cha, yeah the only thing they put her in is a novel on DMC 5 before its events which sucks for Lucia fans. For me, I would take her than a Dante clone anytime.

[@selemanecu]

@@jasonnguyen5663 heck she is Lady's and most of all Nero's prototype dmc4

[@reicherwallace6774]

Oh and character design wise this Dante definitely looks the best. I am always extremely disappointed that this look never makes another appearance in any of the games after it.

[@jackiemehoff8239]

Reicher Wallace lol because it’s the last in the main series. The games in order are DMC 3, 1,4 and then 2 being last.

[@Vladicarus]

they still could make it an extra costume. i wouldn't be surprised if DMC5 makes it a costume, though i have a feeling we'll just get a DMC3 costume again (Which sucks, cuz while i love dmc3. the design for dante made him look like a tool)

[@HellGod67]

Ummm he will get the same costume he had in DMC4 actually, maybe with different pants.

[@Vladicarus]

if you're talking to me about dmc5, i'm refering to extra costumes. bonus stuff. though we don't know if dante will have the same costume in dmc4 yet because every game has dante's design being different. he could have a reused 4 coat, a reused 2 coat, or a new one.

[@lasnochesking]

Is dmc 5 going to take place before or after dmc 2?

[@UltimoDaFox]

My biggest problem with this game when I played it was that it was just boring, which I feel is the worst thing a game can do. I was on auto pilot, only continuing so I could beat it and never have to play it again. The only good things I can say about dmc 2 are: Atlus were able to get Dante in nocturne, and because this game failed so hard they tried their best with dmc 3 and made one of my favorite games ever.

[@Foxcade]

I completely agree! I had to replay this game multiple times to do this video and I needed to watch videos and listen to podcasts to avoid get bored and quitting!

[@betoescal3224]

Bet this game is way better in ps 3 or 4 if it ever happened just as this one is but better graphic movement action and seeings of they movie clips of every single part of this entire game

[@betoescal3224]

Hey sink this in your mind ok so imagine dc universe vs mortalcombat soon to hit movie theaters wouldnt that shit be fucking sick

[@Insoul]

@@betoescal3224 didnt you run against ted cruz for governor of texas?

[@akio2595]

@@betoescal3224 Do you seriously think that all of the game's flaws will be fixed, Just by a graphical update?

[@georgemartinez4864]

Yo, a few years late to respond now but. I always thought that Dante did that double sided coin thing because even though he always made is sound like he didn't care as long as he got his money, like in the manga for dmc where all he did was kill for money and the money didn't make him happy, he pretended it did. So, i think that the double sided coin thing was created for the reason to fight the demons without a reason. Like in the anime Where a few clients don't have enough money to pay for his services so he does it anyway, or for some odd reason that it "peaked his interest". That way the people he's helping out think that a miracle is upon them or that they just have very good luck that Dante helped them out. After all, What else does Dante have better to do besides go back to an empty shop with no one in it. The only times you ever see him happy is when his friends are around or he's fighting demons.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

I always interpreted it like he did care about people's problems but didn't want others to know since that would make him look weak (put DMC3's ending for example, where he pretends it was raining, when we both know he was actually crying for Vergil). So he uses the double sided coin to hide his true emotions. The double coin thing has made appeaeances in other series, mangas and animes, put Crow from Deadman Wonderland's manga for example, at first he is shown as a very serious and don'tgiveaflyingfuck sort of person, all the time he uses a double sided coin to determine his "fate". Then, as the manga goes, we learn that he wasn't the manly guy he pretended to be but a very humble, caring and even shy individual.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

Just replayed DMC2 recently and there's a subtle line from Lucia that can support my interpretarion. When Lucia realizes that Dante's lucky coin is one sided, she responds "That macho...", which kinda implies Dante was doing the whole coin thing to hide his more emotional side.

[@Maddyislicious]

This video does say that, that the coin thing exists only to make dante seem more aloof, and that that's pointless.

[@KhunShawn]

Aries looks like Heihachi Mishima

[@DiscoMouse]

MysteryMrR possible origin story

[@Noot2022]

Arius *

[@mansavage4024]

I actually replay DMC2 here and there for the atmosphere. Running through the town with the haunting, yet soothing music in the background really does something for me

[@drew1429]

I like that you mentioned that Dante's design was actually good it is probably the only thing in the game that I remember enjoying. I have been wanting them to let you wear it in other games like DMC3 letting you wear DMC1's outfit (and the coat less version which is awesome) and DMC4SE letting Dante wear the reboot's colors which in my opinion actually look good on classic Dante( except his eyes are brown whats up with that the reboot's are still blue).

[@whodatninja439]

DMC 2 dante is my favorite design, he just looks cool and badass and professional

[@Vladicarus]

and the hair physics beat some games today..

[@lilywong9672]

In regards to his personality, Dante was trolling everyone in this whole game though. His fake double-sided coin that he uses to fuck with everyone from Lucia, to Matier, to Arius. He also had a few one-liners that were reminiscent of old Dante.

[@AmazingOwnage]

Since no one mentioned this in the comments, I'll point out that you could do different combos depending on which way you're holding the analog stick. Starting the simple combo (triangle triangle) and then finishing by pressing back on the analog stick (back + triangle) yields a different combo than holding the analog stick forward or to the side. Doesn't salvage the overall experience, just thought it would be good to know~

[@rogueguardian]

AmazingOwnage exactly

[@HighJokability]

I too found out how to exploit this. But only in my 2nd playthrough

[@OtepRalloma]

This fact (taught to me by an "all moves compilation" helped me make getting through the game JUST a bit less of a slog. Eventually I got Trish and the game went from boring to... a little less boring. Still not touching it again after I get that 100% though

[@tmaxim2651]

Why was the intro _so_ loud??

[@Foxcade]

I was an idiot and forgot to level the audio before exporting. KZbin won't let me fix audio, so I left annotation as a warning for future viewings.

[@tmaxim2651]

Foxcade Ah ok. I wish KZbin could figure out some proper annotations for the viewers on a phone or tablet. There was another slight issue with the first Devil May Cry review where your voice audio seemed to drop a little quieter after the game/background audio became louder. I _might_ have just accidentally lowered the volume myself, but I don't think I did. Not a huge problem, you may already be aware of it but I thought you might like to know, if you didn't already know. Loving your videos so far, I've subscribed and can't wait to watch your DMC3 review and see you improving. By the way, if you would like your fox avatar redrawn (expressions and everything), I could do that. Although it would be nice to get paid for it... let me know if you're at all interested.

[@Foxcade]

Thanks, proper audio leveling is defintely the thing I'm going to work on with my next video, which is actually the DMC3 retrospective! It should be out by Monday (Tuesday at the latest)! I am interested in a avatar redesign actually. If you want, you can message me through KZbin, or DM me on Twitter and we can hash out the details

[@tmaxim2651]

Foxcade Yeah, I've done some video editing before and, depending on the program, audio levelling can be a nightmare. I don't think I've ever made anything as complicated as this though... Can't wait to see your new vid coming up. I love Devil May Cry, re-bought a Ps2 the other day to play the original trilogy. I had to sell my console a while back but kept the games. Anyway I sent you a tweet on twitter but I couldn't DM you. I'm @TashaMaxim on there.

[@tmaxim2651]

Foxcade Btw ignore any of the prices on my art, we can talk about that properly.

[@blyat8832]

i think we can agree about this game: *mistakes were made*

[@agreedboarart3188]

You really weren't kidding about the loud audio. I think my intestines just collapsed.

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

I always hated that the antagonist looks like every interpretation of Nobunaga ever.

[@tykamen5588]

Looks like he belongs in Persona 5

[@dosito86]

.... Idk if I can ever unsee this now

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

@wario2255 No, he isn't. He's based on popular depictions of Oda Nobunaga, but with a haircut instead of a traditional chonmage.

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

@wario2255 I wouldn't necessarily trust that source, game books aren't always all that accurate, and considering his portrait is a damn near 1:1 exact copy of depictions of Nobunaga, I'm gonna keep saying his design is more close to that of Nobunaga. He doesn't even look like Lee van Cleef in the slightest.

[@0m3GAARS3NAL]

@wario2255 well, considering only Ikeno has given comment on Arius' design, and that he stated that only his nose is inspired by Lee Van Cleef, yes. I have the 3142 Graphic Arts book, and he ONLY says that the nose is inspired. The rest of his face, and entire design, leans heavily into the typical depiction of Oda Nobunaga. Comparing both old, and modern interpretations of Nobunaga makes it clear as day. And let's be real, anyone who worked on DMC2 was on some dirty ass crack I tell you.

[@abc4781]

According to text in DMC 4 that sums up the other games in the series States that Dante takes his powers More seriously and strives to conduct himself more like his father Sparda.

[@AdmiraHax]

Dante's DMC2 outifit is the best though.

[@IronHawk5]

I disagree but I do respect your opinion, the DMC3 outfit is the best in my opinion

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

As confirmed in the crossover with SMT Nocturne, Dante is literally fucking with people with the coin, he does the same thing with you to either take half your macca (money) if you pick tails, but if you pick heads and win, cuz double headed, he takes a single coin, and on his level up screen can say he’s glad he didn’t take so much on rare occasion, which I’ve seen, so he’s legit here to help and just using the coin for fun

[@mondobondo-w6r]

This was a pretty thorough review for a channel with only a few hundred subs. Good job man, I'm interested to see what you put out next. Hopefully you'll have a DMC 3 and 4 retrospective soon.

[@Foxcade]

Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement! The DMC3 retrospective is in the works, though a couple videos will be coming before hand for specific reasons. I plan to have the 3 video done just after new years, and have the series complete, including the anime, the reboot and some other things, by next summer :)

[@NoxTheRegicide]

I know this is late, but the significance of the coin flip was to keep up his 'Sardonic and sarcastic facade.' The coin is a double sided head coin, he of course wanted to help in this story. But he still enjoyed giving them a good 'scare' by trolling them with a coin toss (That is always set to be 'Heads, the noble choice.') Dante is still cocky in this, but in a much more subtle way, and not once does he brood. STOIC, yes, but never brooding. The guy is literally wearing a Smug Smirk in every piece of footage you show. He wears that for 80% of the game. Alas you are right, his reason for being here isn't exactly a good story for a Main character in a game. One, Dante is so powerful at this point, that this whole game is just a darn "Side Mission" for him. This Dante plays an excellent Foil or 'Crazy Strong Supporting' character like in SMT Nocturne. It's as if Lucia is the Main character, and her story can be viewed through the eyes of Dante who has no personal stake in this other than Lucia's adoptive mother Knew Sparda, and it's kinda his JOB to hunt Devils too great for even Ancient Devil Hunters. I still enjoy this Dante, because it shows what he has become over a long life of INTERNAL brooding. Because legit, when things are calm, the guy is kinda Depressed and wears a goofy mask all his life to appear as though he doesn't care. DMC2 was rushed, and is by no means perfect or anything GOOD. But I still love this Dante, the game still plays well enough for me to enjoy it, and his best one liner IS in this game. lol

[@TheExFatal]

The ending is the only good thing about DMC2.

[@Foxcade]

As someone who played through this game twice to do this video, I can say you aren't wrong

[@TheExFatal]

Foxcade I know it's been 8 months since I posted this comment, but since I'm going through your DMC videos again I feel the neef to elaborate on it a bit. I like the ending of DMC2 a lot because in retrospective... it ads a lot to Dante's character. Despite his crazy and upbeat attitude throughout the series, he's a tragic character. Dante and Vergil are sons of a demon and a human which makes them outcasts. His mother got killed when he was a kid, and brothers got separated. When they finally meet again, one of them becomes trapped in Hell itself. Years later Dante meets his brother again but he didn't realise that until he kills Nelo Angelo. Years after that he meets Nero and entrusts him Yamato, but decided not to get into Nero's life. And ultimately he gets trapped in Hell to fight demons until his last breath, to never return again... But the world still has Nero, Lady, Trish and Lucia to watch over humans, so Dante's sacrifice was not in vain. That's why I like the ending so much, even tho the game itself... stinks. Probably no one will see this comment, but now I feel good about expressing my thoughts.

[@nicoonly]

Hi man! Your videos are great. Smart, clear and fun. I've been enjoying them very much, specially the Shovel Knight one. Just like other people mention, more followers must be just around the corner. You deserve them! Keep up the good work!

[@Foxcade]

Thanks, I appreciate the support! Hopefully I can get more people watching soon!

[@TheFuryHasCome]

I bet Dante only acted that way with the coin because he wanted to be a shithead for that mission.

[@highoctanesynx7950]

0:51 LMAOOOOOOOOOO That jumpscared the crap outta me 🤣🤣

[@eternalmaggot7246]

This game is due for such a heavy overhaul a la REmake 2, which it wouldn't need too much changing. The ideas are there; they're just... lacking. Improve combat, improve enemy AI, increase the amount of enemies in the areas, cut down the areas a bit (or add more to do), redesign some of the bosses (e.g.: Helicopter boss. What if it shapeshifted like the building demon and gained the ability to use its helicopter blade as a glaive or it "consuming" a tank and gaining its firepower. Add more rooftop shenanigans of literally fighting over the entire city ending in him taking that glaive as a new weapon --speaking of...), more weapon variety (different swords does not equate "more weapons"; take the Glaive, for instance, from the redesigned boss, then give the wolf-hedge-demon knight a lance or spear that can use the wolves' souls as a living bulwark; just a couple examples --hell, give us a ball-and-chain weapon), and, most importantly, FLESH OUT THE CHARACTERS AND STORY. The whole thing screams, "patchwork" --which, given its development, is no surprise. I didn't hate DMC2. Gods, I wish I did. It would have made things SOOO much simpler, but I believe it has a chance to be a badass entry in the DMC series with just a bit of TLC.

[@TheJadedJames]

DMC2 was a formative moment for me growing up, because it was an awful game that made me appreciate DMC1 so much more and think far more critically about why some games work and others don't.

[@SourRobo8364]

This game makes the Ninja Theory reboot look like a masterpiece.

[@cadethumann8605]

In one perspective, yeah. DmC was better structured as a game itself. In another perspective, some would still find dmc2 less irritating as they would prefer a quiet, dull protagonist to an obnoxious and immature brat.

[@reicherwallace6774]

These are good points but the one about the sword not having any combos. You can do something besides the triple slash. I believe it had something to do with pressing forward or backward during combos at a certain point. Not sure. I'd have to replay to remember more clearly but even with that there really isn't much to it still. So point is still standing that there isn't much melee combat.

[@Foxcade]

You can do more than the triple slash but even then there is very little to the combo variety, which isn't help by the lack of unlocking new techniques like in all the other games, so you inevitably just do the triple slash because sadly there isn't much point in trying to do anything else.

[@commonsparrow]

nothing happens in this game. nothing

[@Mr.Ditkovich.]

I know the combat is terrible in this game besides so many other issues, but when I compare the combat to some critically acclaimed games, DMC2 looks like a masterpiece in comparison.

[@91Turles]

I still pick "Serious Dante" from DMC2 over "Mr McEdgelord Dante" from DmC tho

[@tai2664]

After 12 years, I just realize that Harvey Dent's coin in the dark knight was a two headed coin :o

[@duwanglover3424]

I didn’t even know about the Majin Devil Trigger, I never got that hurt to use it

[@ProxyDoug]

Looking at Lucia's design, wonder if Gloria was supposed to be her in DMC4. Also, I always had the impression DMC2 was way after all ther games for some reason, not sure why.

[@Lirka_906]

Correct, DMC2 takes place a long time after DMC4. As stated by Capcom.

[@ProxyDoug]

Every new information I get about DMC4 makes the production seem more embarassing.

[@vinicinfodexota5083]

@Potato Chip its a commom thing i guess, DMC 2 was rushed, DMC 3 got its time, DMC 4 rushed again, imagine if capcom wasnt retarded

[@vashythewabbit8288]

@@vinicinfodexota5083 looks like Capcom is finally putting their heads out of their asses. They gave both and RE:Remake and DMC5 more than 4 years of development and while both great.

[@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565]

@@vashythewabbit8288 and with that the timeline is finally set: DMC 3, DMC 1, DMC 2 (kinda strange because dante's personality in this game makes him looks like he's 30-40 years old or something), DMC 4, DMC5

[@AurinkoJoki]

10:27 it says in the Deadly Fortune novel that Dante actually sells his devil arms to a collector acquaintance when he is in need of money.

[@Brucessary]

Reasons why Capcom titles make drastic changes giving us the impression that they didn’t know what made the series good: Capcom used to (and still may) have a policy of only keeping programmers until the person reached 25 years of age. So at some point, you would have a team working on a sequel that wasn’t as in tune with the series as it could’ve been. My friend who worked on Onimusha 1 & 2 filled me in.

[@schnitzel9003]

Now I know where Anton Chigurh got his notorious coin toss from; he was an avid fan of Devil May Cry 2.

[@outermeowven]

that intro is hilariously loud

[@fabiolobo728]

I remember buying this full price back in the day. I played the hell out of it, but my 12 year old self recognized it was inferior to what came before. Still, i played the hell out of it. Spent a lot of time on bloody palace.

[@rogueguardian]

DMC 2 has grown on me a little over time, it's still not my favorite but I respect it as a stepping stone for the franchise.

[@phant0mdummy]

Christ sake dude. Shockingly low quality audio at the start. This is your backhanded compliment. My speakers crackle now.

[@johnsummers2943]

DMC2 it's actually my favorite of the entire series no joke.

[@baileyclifford2852]

I wish they would bring back Dante's dodge animation from this game back.

[@Szczauqa]

Shooting was cool too, and the animated hair!

[@chefatlas852]

Just as long as they don't bring the sound back with it

[@betoescal3224]

Tears are only a gift only humans have. That was a sick as line nice well done wit this dmc2

[@BTM8109]

The coin flipping thing they gave Dante in this game is, I think, his version of the trope where the roguish anti-hero actually has a good heart, but doesn't want to let that on to everyone, either for the sake of humility, or just not seeming like a boy scout. It's the same dynamic with Han Solo, The Man with no name, or pretty much any wandering Ronin in a samurai movie. Dante can be defensive about revealing his nice guy nature to people, and puts on airs of being aloof a lot of the time. Remember in DMC3, when he cried at the end after believing Vergil was gone forever? Lady comments on it, but he has to save face by telling her "it's just the rain".

[@DarthDani]

Isn't Dante depressed/disillusioned by this stage in his devil hunting?

[@aresdotexe]

I actually did end up having to use that yellow orb against the poison tentacle boss. I had no idea how to get rid of poison, and I was still using the sword and guns like DMC1. I later realized that the focus was more on the guns, and the game got so much easier from there.

[@bassettgames8076]

DmC isn't even bad. It's really fun

[@RuRiccio]

Combo variations were done with directional input, which were somehow easier to achieve with Lucia. I always got the impression that Lucia was the melee focused bit and Dante was the gun guy, because her combat felt way more fluid and fun.

[@MistahJay7]

The sound of that 3 hit combo will haunt you in your nightmares HUEH HUEH HUEHHH

[@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian]

i will occasionally forget that Reuben Langdon wasn't always Dante. I think that it would be sick if in DMC6 that after you beat the game and (hopefully) get DMC1 Dante that they add the voice lines from the original game or get the guy back to record some. It would be a pretty cool fanservice because looking at some forums, people do kinda miss that guy.

[@AkaThePhoenix]

Thank you for the headphone warning. I was curious, so only pulled them off, and holy crap! XD

[@patrickleighpresents749]

This game had plenty of issues, most of which you covered very well. There were, however, a few things I enjoyed, nevertheless. First, while it isn't as good as other DMC games, the music for DMC 2 does have enough atmospheric qualities for some tracks and enough heart-pumping rock that I still listen to it years later. I'm a writer who gets a lot of inspiration from music, and a number of DMC 2 tracks have really helped me get into the right mindset to put a scene or setting together. Second, while most of the enemies were bland, I _loved_ the demon tanks and demon helicopters, if only for the concept. There was just something about seeing those vehicles covered with twisted, organic tissue that made me go, "Ah, _coooooooool!_" when I first saw them. Honestly, it's an idea that would be great for a horror movie. Okay, technically, _Maximum Overdrive_ did have possessed vehicles, but the vehicles and machines, but none of them had fleshy bits on them, and the movie was... well, it was a Steven King movie made in the eighties. What more can you say about that? My point, however, is that DMC 2 had at least one really great enemy concept with the demon tanks and demon helicopters and I still get a kick out of them. Third, while it wasn't executed very well, the whole thing with the demon world slowly infecting the regular world was pretty solid, in my opinion. It was like the world was getting infected more than invaded, and I liked that a lot. Honestly, I feel like between that and the demon vehicles, they had some really good ideas they could have done a lot with, if they'd just put a bit more effort into it. What may have made for a more interesting game would be having Dante find out that someone is opening up small rifts to the demon world. The rifts warp everything around them, like a wound getting infected. What's more, whoever is behind it has found away to enable demons to possess machines. Instead of only having a few enemies that are a fusion of demon and technology, _all_ of the enemies, or at least most of them, could have been like that. In order to stop the demon infection from spreading, Dante has to locate the rifts and close them, defeating the boss demons that protect them. As for his motivation, Dante doesn't need that much of one to fight demons. Instead, the demons could have provoked him by attacking him in a preemptive strike. They know he's a serious threat to them and want to make sure he's out of the picture. Seeing that they're not going to leave him alone, and not wanting to see the world be overrun with demons, Dante takes up his trusty sword and guns and heads out to save the day. Simple, but that's still reason enough for him to be involved. Okay, so this was kind of a long comment, but I'm not one for making short ones, anyway. In conclusion, DMC 2 was very flawed but what frustrates me most is how simple it would have been to fix the story, at the very least. There were a few gold nuggets of ideas in there, so it's a shame that they were covered up by so much crap.

[@betoescal3224]

The sword came out fucking sick wit it when it opened its sword eyes glowing bright neon redish orange waking up dantes spirit and confidence and understanding his serious super mature sick side on part 3 but part 2 dam that sword is the fucking shit

[@headbreakable]

wait wait wait, DMC2 gave you dmg upgrades? it's like the games come out at 2020, this was how forward thinking the devs were!

[@lordblueballs7293]

20:29 it's not a bad game, it's a terrible game

[@trottist]

I went through hell beating devil may cry 1. Died a bunch especially early on. I didn’t think devil may cry 2 was that bad until after I beat it...I realized I didn’t die once.

[@pausetimemugen6301]

Dante gets serious.

[@Foxcade]

Seriously mediocre :)

[@GhostCell47]

Foxcade Disappointing more than anything to be exact.

[@thetrueholybob434]

Hey love the video series on devil may cry! Keep it up and just personally letting you know that your work and effort put enjoyment and a distraction from boredem in to someone's day

[@ClefGamerFilosofo]

Devil May Cry 2 was the first game in the series that I played. I really liked it, until I saw the first one. Despite this, the game still has a place in my heart. I still have the silly hope that they will remake him, perhaps giving it a work closer to what was made in DMC V, especially in the development of the characters and story.

[@mattk7561]

keep up the channel man

[@Foxcade]

Will do!

[@alastor8091]

Watched the video when it came out and now it's back in my rec. I'm rolling from 0:51.

[@thepearled0120]

Honestly, I didn't mind the whole coin-flip aspect of the story. In fact, it was one of the aspects of the story I actually liked. It's always implied in the other DMC games that Dante cares about others a lot more than he is willing to admit to them. There are various reasons why this could be, but the point is the same. He's doing the coin flip so that people he helps won't know that he was always planning on helping them. Of all the things DMC2 did that made Dante's character bad, this was one of the only things that I felt was genuinely really interesting about him.

[@PhantomFearYT]

Bass boosted ear drum bursting at it's finest, generally had me laughing

[@GuitarrAssassin]

JESUS CHRIST!!!! I wast watching this on my PS4 through the KZbin app, and I think you blew out my TV's speakers.

[@davidedwards3206]

Only just found your channel this week and I'd like to say I'm enjoying these Retrospective videos. More on point with this video, I do agree with why this game got the bad response it did. So it's probably a good thing that 2 was the first one I played in the series, and I did enjoy it then, looking back I can see it falls into the category of "Without the franchise name, it might have been a good game."

[@tronmerncutsman]

One saving grace this game has is that there actually IS a combo system that lets you do different moves. Instead of pausing between attacks, it's based on whether or not you're pressing on the analog stick. It's pretty weird to pick up on, but you can start a combo by not holding the analog stick, which is a four-hit string, and then pressing in a direction (any direction, doesn't matter which) will execute a different type of combo depending on what hit in the four-hit combo you're currently on. It's not perfect, but it spices things up a bit. It's kind of nice, since it kind of makes you think about what attack would let you best handle the enemies around you without getting hit, especially if you're going for an S. Devil trigger comes with its own combos too. Also, on higher difficulties, the game also requires a bit more thought. Of course, you probably already heard of this at some point by now, but if you hadn't, it's something to think about.

[@buyito5000]

DMC2 was my first Devil May Cry game

[@sheikah3303]

As for why Dante is more brooding in 2: Consider what happened in DMC1. He just lost his only family, supposedly forever. Id be depressed too.

[@Ephidiel]

Dante in the anime always gave me more the feeling like he is losing on purpose once they state they have a job for him

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

Dante with the coin is a troll, which is exactly what Dante's personality is. Dante is a hero but he always shows off a tough exterior but hides the fact that he is a softie, even DMC3 showed thisbaspect of his personality heavily.

[@farhanchoksi98]

Watching this 6 years later and the characterof Zod has been thrown in the mix in The Flash, just like good ol phantom without his original purpose or character. But I feel that without the fall of 2 we would never get the rise of 3

[@AdamasOldblade]

Firstly, good video, loved it... Secondly (and my big comment)... Probably like a number of hardcore DMC fans after DMC5 was announced I went back and played each one again, including two. Even going into two I had this vague memory of being 16 years old and thinking it was going to be super sick, beating it, but then the rest was replaced by other people going "oh the game is a trash-fire". After I went back to play it, I mean, those people weren't wrong, but I DID look at the entire game as a series of "what if" scenarios rather than a total failure. It does bother me that there truly is a game in DMC2 that was screaming to be made, but lack of planning and rush to finish ideas failed it.... Oddly enough if Capcom (I super know this is never going to happen) EVER decided to remake DMC2 in the RE Engine and give it a proper reboot as it intended to I truly think it would be good. I think fans would look at the original as the blueprint that it clearly was.

[@StanislaoMoulinsky79]

"[...]there's no diversity in the combo strings you can do. In the previous game [...] the combos could be varied by adding slight pauses between button presses". *montage of the same combo string used over and over again* Erm...actually DMC2 has MORE combo strings than Alastor and Ifrit combined. Heck, you even had different combo string in devil form AND you had combo string with the shotgun! The difference is that instead of using pauses you had to flick the stick. So instead of: -slash, slash, pause, slash you had to do: -slash, slash, flick stick, slash

[@TioMegamanX]

There were more "varied" combos but it wasn't bound to button pauses, it was bound to button + directional inputs.

[@longvu3540]

Subscribed. You make some high quality content! I'm surprised you dont have more views but I'm sure you'll get there

[@Foxcade]

Thanks, even with university and work I'm always working on new videos, hope to have the next one out before the end of Halloween season!

[@mengo329]

I know people have probably already talked about this but DMC2 has multiple combos. You gotta press directions during certain attacks but it's just harder and more annoying to do, and the game itself doesn't even tell you about it. I'm really happy they changed it back to delays

[@RBNinja]

There actually were a number of different sword combos in DMC2 but they require to let go of the target button and do have different timed button presses. I'm not sure why they decided to make it so you couldn't do different sword combos while targeting enemies but thats another issue. But they are there.

[@SomeAustrianGuy_]

They seriously need to bring Bulwark back for DMC6, it's a really good concept, but sadly in the most unutilized, boring game in the franchise. Seriously, we the proper writing, this could be amazing

[@Dark-Wolf-066]

DMC2 is the game that make every *DEVIL CRY* but still it has badass Dante's design, good soundtracks, creative Devil Trigger mechanic, & most importanly The Majin Form

[@Blinkk135]

I legit thought the loud audio was some sort of meme

[@odracircomix7359]

great vids you got me to subscribe

[@lainspotting]

Although I do like the DMC 2 Dante design, Dante’s design in DMC 1 is just cooler imo, it emphasizes the color red more and has a more mercenary look.

[@skat0rzZzz]

Very informative, thank you! Glad I've skipped this one, as it has been suggested by the already huge amount of gamers who happened to suffer through this.

[@Graavigala85]

DMC2 Dante does look nifty though

[@matthewscottshea]

Secret Room 60 on DMD mode, IMPOSSIBLE!

[@k0nt3xtus]

3 Despair Embodied or ;)

[@JMsolidsnake]

You can actually pull of different combo moves using the directional button with the attack button like a fighting game, the problem is tho that you can only do the moves if you are not using the lock on mechanic making it pretty much useless. Learned that from the Sphere hunter channel (I believe that's the name)

[@synthraofficial5366]

I think he just flips the coin for laughs. I think he just finds it funny because he's the only one who gets the joke. Like in Shinigami Tenshi Nocturne when you try to recruit him.

[@yannicknaert]

Dispite all of its flaws I still liked it, the first was such a masterpiece I never expected the sequel to top it. The thing I didn’t like the most was the camera pulling back way too far in some particular fights because it made the game feel like it wasn’t a action/adventure game anymore. Also my standards weren’t as high back then because I was a lot younger

[@YoichiMutou]

They should just remake this game to add lore or something for the timeline

[@yep404]

I honestly liked dmc2, the design and art style was so cool to me. it was also the first dmc I played so that might be why I like it too

[@danielengelmann1775]

Hotrodwilson558 I went into dmc2 right after 100% the first one and the point where he says that the movement/controls feel off is true plus if you play the first,3,4, or the remake you will see why people haré this one myself included

[@SinHurr]

That's like watching Matrix Revolutions first. Yeesh. Way to start at the bottom of the barrel.

[@DomagojSavordh]

Hotrodwilson558 finally someone normal who is not complaining on every possible thing

[@eduardodelrio8707]

It happened to me either, it was the first devil may cry i finished, maybe that´s why i love it over the other devil may cry games. Personally my top would be like: 1ºDMC2 2ºDMC1 3ºDMC3 4ºDMC(REBOOT) 5ºDMC4.

[@edwinsparda7622]

I still like this Dante compared to reboot Dante. God that guy was annoying.

[@professionalname5298]

Am I the only person who thoroughly enjoyed this game even though is wasn’t exactly like the first!???

[@Yesmanpersondude]

yes

[@MistahJay7]

I like how Arius is just Young Heihachi Mishima from Tekken lmao

[@sketchstevens5859]

Jak really didn't change. He just got more pissed off

[@Fenrisulfr-yh5yr]

Dante battles with Odin's Wolves.. ☀️🐺🌙🐺

[@fanelfabien6672]

Sparda said how did i by that guy gig

[@pp_Neon]

0:51 scared the shit out of me because I was wearing headphones and was on my phone.

[@TheBossMoneyProject]

Did anyone notice the section of the map on 14:39 is used in the DmC reboot