Let's Solve ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING season 4 episode 4 'The Stunt Man' | Recap Review Theory

[@DoublePMedia]

OKAY I’M LOST - What do you think Episode 5 taught us about WHO DID IT?

[@kitkatz3859]

This season is very good so far but I am also hopelessly lost and confused I may as well be in the white room now 😭 great video as always double P!

[@Slimydiagram]

Hey i think i know who did it so In the trailer we see a person with a sniper and there leg up on the raiditor the shoe is the same as the brother sisters idk why they would of done it but say one of them shot sazz then the other sister carryed sazz out

[@Slimydiagram]

Also while watching this video i saw that one of the sisters had a cam so could be good with a sniper/good eyesight

[@MadJenno]

I’m so lost , but I’m loving this season 😂

[@cheri7054]

@@Slimydiagram I think we’re seeing a movie within a movie. They are developing a movie about the trio. Saz did her part in this so called movie. To make the rest they need the trio to approve the rights. In the movie Charles is dead. We see Saz takes the fall. Saz is still alive.

[@THEEWAHWAH]

It’s suspicious that they flyer was slid under the door once Howard was left alone. They knew a chance at fame was all he needed to lure him out the room.

[@DoublePMedia]

That's got to be it... who?

[@MadJenno]

I definitely thought the same about the flyer .

[@friyadmohamed3130]

@@DoublePMediaI think the ham cult crew 😂 seeing as how they were in there when Mabel ran back

[@johngoldsmith427]

Ghost Sazz is really trying to help Charles solve who did it

[@DoublePMedia]

She needs to help me - I'm lost :)

[@markdaly1648]

I wonder is zass charles older sibling. We don't really know very much his upbringing except his dad was arrested

[@kitkatz3859]

The Loretta theory had me shook and also questioning my entire life and everything I thought I knew up until this point. Bravo 👏

[@DoublePMedia]

LOL - Me too!

[@TheMakeupChair]

Yay!!! I’ve been refreshing your KZbin feed all day waiting for this!! ❤

[@DoublePMedia]

Thanks for that - I was late to work this morning because I hadn't made a thumbnail, hadn't written the notes - I was scrambling as getting out the door to get to the office

[@KK-zc8eo]

Thanks for the shout out! And can't believe all the pig references in season 3 😮

[@stevehayes4407]

Ok, this is pretty out there but, Vince mentions that Dudenoff gets to "live like a king" in Portugal. When they cut to the trio playing cards it starts with a shot of the King of Hearts on the deck. Later Glen mentions another stunt double named Rex Bailey. Rex means king and Bailey can mean fortification or bailiff. What if Rex was some kind of protector for Dudenoff? During the funeral scene Glen hits Charles with a real bottle and another stuntman says "You set them up!" as if Glen set it up to happen. Glen gets angry and yells "are you calling me a Rex Bailey?" What if Rex Bailey somehow set up a stunt on another movie that injured or killed someone and made it look like an accident? That would be a pretty dangerous secret for someone to uncover, like Sazz. I also want to know who is posed on the table for the funeral painting.

[@waylenmiki_1]

I kept thinking, but if Dudenoff just rented those apartments at normal rental prices, then he'd be even better off (with 20x more income). It wasn't clear enough to me his motivations for keeping the rent so low.

[@Carlitty]

@@waylenmiki_1 Dudenof rented those apartments many years ago (let's say under $100 each). The amount hasn't changed because of the rent control. He sublets the apartments. Everyone wins (except the original landlord).

[@blupenquinn2955]

RANDOM connection. With ALL the pig/pork/ham references this season, it occurred to me that in Season One, Charles kept having visions of Bugs Bunny & Porky Pig due to his anxiety and fear of relationship failure stemming from the trauma when his long time girlfriend (Lucy's mom) broke up with him right before they were supposed to go on a family cruise. So he had to hang out with those mascots alone. I don't remember if her name was ever mentioned, but the name Cookie was put on the murder board with all of Charles' exes. Maybe there will be some investigation into her?

[@psiloveyou1964]

If I'm remembering correctly, Lucy's Mom's name was Emma.

[@J2theTechnoVine]

I'm happy that the Ben Glenroy twin theory came true, even if it's too late. Great job to the writers of the show for brining Paul Rudd back somehow!

[@DoublePMedia]

100%

[@markdaly1648]

​@@DoublePMediavery stage oirish accent

[@markdaly1648]

More then one person involved

[@Smartrad]

I actually find it so funny they brought back Paul Rudd

[@DoublePMedia]

CoBro 8: Unkillable!

[@kikikiwi9990]

I did too!!! I laughed so hsrd

[@oxigen85]

Me too! I recognised his voice in the beginning, loved that he returned!

[@KK-zc8eo]

Anybody else catch Bev Melon pulling the trigger and the gun making empty/stunt gun / prop gun sound?

[@sandirawrmore6776]

That makes sense at a training academy for stunt people. Props.

[@blupenquinn2955]

I saw that article about the set too, and thought that it must be a clue, that maybe the apartments were connected in some way by a secret passage. But maybe it has to do that Dudenhoff is renting one large apartment, but renovated it into 4 separate apartments to sublet? I just don't understand how the police didn't get a list of who was renting the apartments, they just asked around. But now I definitely believe the lock box is to keep the landlord out.

[@DoublePMedia]

YES! Having the FBI take over is preventing Det. Williams from helping the podcast trio... and me! :)

[@AnastasiyaAidyna]

fireplaces?

[@donnasonnenfeld3078]

Yes! I just wrote something similar to this before I read your post! Great call about dividing the apartments from one big one! That way, they can access the Studio to shoot out the window without walking into the hallway at all! They all can walk through all the apartments through connecting doors from apartment to apartment! I think this is the ANSWER!!!

[@victoriajloveland3144]

Does anyone else find it strange that Howard goes through so many pets? Why not take Gravey and Hammy on a walk together? And bring Evelyn in a stroller? I hope Howard isn't Sweeney Todding his pets!

[@DoublePMedia]

@@victoriajloveland3144 LOL

[@saskiapoonith7187]

I know we are over the theory that Sazz faked her death , but what is she faked her death to finally live with Jan. We don't see jan anymore but she still made an appearance to let us know she escaped. And seeing that stunt double of ben reminded me of the twin theory we had in S3 Also , if you watch the trailer again , you can see that the person aiming at Charles apartments have the same boots as one of the girls who was auditioning Howard.

[@DoublePMedia]

Good thoughts! I've had that possibility in the back of my mind too -- The only way to get the police to think Jan wasn't part of it, was to make Charles think Jan had no idea of the plot.

[@saskiapoonith7187]

@@DoublePMedia exactly !! Love your videos on OMITB btw !

[@dolewhipfan]

Another pig reference was Charles defending himself from Jan with a small ceramic pig

[@georgex4700]

"You were more than a stunt double Sazz" ❤✨

[@DoublePMedia]

"You were more than a Face Double, Charles" :)

[@cheri7054]

Ben doesn’t come back but his body double does.

[@DoublePMedia]

Yo, you look just like CoBro!

[@emilys3757]

Loretta does seem suspicious, but would the show have both Charles and Oliver be in relationships with killers?

[@mckenziewilkes]

My thoughts exactly! I love the Loretta theory and a lot lines up, but another storyline of a main character’s lover being the villain would feel a bit overplayed.

[@DoublePMedia]

The Loretta theory sounds crazy/probably is crazy - but enough clues piled up that I had to put it in the video

[@emilys3757]

@@DoublePMedia Agreed there is definitely something going on with her and I hope it’s more than just “ha ha Oliver is jealous and bad at social media.” And hopefully we see more of Loretta because I love Meryl.

[@markdaly1648]

Loretta theory works because the ice stage show oliver did sank her career. Loretta Was for a time the most connected person in showbiz. She could have been in a relationship with charles. We still don't know a lot about charles. His first marriage ended and he terrible relationship with his daughter. Maybe helga is charles crazy ex wife. The person he fled to new york to get away from

[@cmielak]

Its 100% not her☺️Pinterest is full of pictures from final episode. I dont want to spoil but if you want to see the most beautiful wedding dress definitely check it out🥰

[@olgadefeo598]

The assassin is probably listening to the podcast, which Charles started after the party. That would show Charles is still alive. Depending on how long the podcast lasted, the assassin had just enough time to take Sazz's body to the incinerator. The temporary blackout towards the end of the podcast was due to the faulty incinerator as Sazz was being incinerated.

[@robbyclorio]

You say that how come hollywood executives know about the secret passages? (sorry my english, its my second language), but Jan told Charles that she knows about them because they mention them on the podcast! so now everyones knows!

[@DoublePMedia]

Good point - but would the podcast mention the incinerator chute. (your English is great!)

[@brandonhicks9926]

By this point in every season I’ve had a decent theory with clues about who did it. This season, however, I don’t feel like we have any solid clues. Maybe it’s because I haven’t rewatched any episodes like I did with previous seasons, but I definitely feel a bit lost this season. By biggest theory is Sazz is alive or Bakula did it

[@DoublePMedia]

BAKULA!!!! LOL - I'm lost and need a great clue

[@peggy7744]

I honestly think the 'brittle bones' thing was just a joke about how old Charles is. Bone density decreases over our lifetimes, so saying someone has brittle bones is kind of like calling them dusty. Also, as someone from the UK, I'm pretty sure our giftwrapping ribbon would burn, but that was a good call! I'm seeing a lot of references to pigs littered (no pun intended) throughout the show, and whenever a piece of handwriting is shown (letters, naughty lists, etc) there's a pretty decent chance that some of the capital Es will be written in the style of backwards 3s. Threes and pigs - three little pigs? This spans across series, and if it's not used soon to provide evidence to a murder it very well may be a sort of easter egg that points to our Moriarty-type figure - maybe??

[@DoublePMedia]

Don't call attention to our mortality, Peggy Our U.S. bones can't survive on Charles' omelets alone :). All the references to Pigs, it's Fishy

[@filiperocha2238]

Regarding the person that liked Sazz’s photo the day she died, “machado” is a Portuguese word and it means axe, it might not be a coincidence since dudenoff is allegedly in Portugal

[@DoublePMedia]

Oh snap!!!

[@AlisonLeighLilly]

Love your videos! I'm so glad your tin-foil theory has come around to Loretta, because I narrowed in on her almost immediately but for totally different reasons. For me, the question that keeps nagging at me is: why did the killer clean up Sazz's body? If Sazz was the target, it makes sense to clean up if the killer was in the same room when the murder happened and they were worried they'd potentially contaminated the crime scene or themselves. But the whole point of a long-distance shot is to minimize that risk and give yourself time to escape, so why risk exposure and cross-contamination instead of just fleeing immediately? Of course, Jan gives us the answer: you clean up a body if you killed the wrong person and you don't want your real target on alert. But that only raises more questions: first, if the killer didn't want Charles on alert, then why didn't they attempt to kill Charles again right away? And second and more importantly, let's say the killer mistook Sazz for Charles... once she's been shot, she falls to the floor, out of view, in the dark -- so how did the killer ever find out they shot the wrong person in the first place?! To me, there's only one answer that makes sense: the killer shot at someone they thought was Charles, and then saw Charles still alive later that same night and, at that point, realized their mistake. In other words, it could only have been someone at the party that night, because only they would have realized they shot the wrong person, and known where Charles was and that he wasn't in his apartment, giving them time to clean up. The only person (other than Howard) who fits this description is Loretta. Plus, she has both a motive, and a reason to hold off on a second attempt. Motive: she wants Oliver to move to L.A. with her as she pursues a television career, but Charles (and the play) were keeping she and Oliver in New York. Why no second attempt? Because the play was canceled after opening night (something nobody knew at the time of Sazz's murder), and a movie opportunity brought Oliver out to L.A. the very next week. Loretta now has the opportunity to pursue the television job, plus she has every reason to think Oliver might decide to join her in L.A. without needing to remove Charles as an obstacle. So... I think it was Loretta. Plus, you don't waste a talent like Meryl Streep on a second season if she's not gonna be the killer!

[@DoublePMedia]

Thank you! That is a wicked, yet logical motive!

[@jt279]

Another possibility could be that the sniper bugged the Oliver's apartment as part of prep recon work. Which could explain why the assassin thought the person going into Charles' apartment was Charles and not Sazz.

[@olgadefeo598]

The assassin is probably listening to the podcast, which Charles started after the party. That would show Charles is still alive. Depending on how long the podcast lasted, the assassin had just enough time to take Sazz's body to the incinerator. The temporary blackout towards the end of the podcast was due to the faulty incinerator as Sazz was being incinerated.

[@jackiebishop2177]

You had me right up until the Loretta theory! The only person she might kill for is her son, and I don't she how/why that would happen with Charles/Sazz. I don't see her having the strength to hold a gun that size, let alone move Sazz's body. I still think it was an accident.

[@extr3mev0id19]

Loretta is not that broken up about Oliver not wanting to move to LA with her. It’s a flimsy motive.

[@donnasonnenfeld3078]

The INTERIOR DOORS inside the Dudenoff apartment that probably were sealed shut when his "studio" was created from a larger one, are adjacent to Vince Fish's place and to the Sauce Family's apartment so if either of them wanted to open those doors and access the apartment from their own apartment they could do it without walking into the hallway. I think that all the Westies were involved in some capacity. I think Ana was the shooter, Rudy carried the body to the incinerator and the others cleaned up and covered for Ana!

[@Residentevilfan1989]

I can see Loretta. I didn't expect Jan mostly cuz how she easily infiltrated Mabel, Charles, and Oliver. Also Oliver really didn't like Jan, and she turned out to be the muderer, and now Oliver suspect Loretta for the same "paranoia reason", it would make for a great twist. Also Meryl Streep was the antagonist in Devil Wears Prada's, and its a band, so that is even more suspicious.

[@DoublePMedia]

100% Meryl was deliciously evil in Devil Wears Prada

[@blupenquinn2955]

A Tin Hat theory based on ONE comment: In the quick list of things he has in common with Sazz, Charles says they share a rare blood type. In the genre of murder, that equates to people getting killed for their organ transplant possibilities. It's possible Charles or Sazz talked about this unique blood type in an interview. While shooting the target would be a risk, it would explain why someone went and took care of the body right away. Can't determine if they are missing organs if the body is just dust. And of course except for that one comment, nothing else is really pointing that way.

[@DoublePMedia]

DANG - that could be like that Michael Crichton movie 'Coma' - killed for their organs.

[@AlisonLeighLilly]

This observation is brilliant! Plus, I think illegal organ transplants are also often associated in the genre with waking up in a bathtub full of ice missing an organ, and there have been two important times we've discovered something odd/disturbing in a bathtub/shower: the ham (such a weird and gross place to keep food!), and the cute pig (pig valves can be used to replace human heart valves). I don't think this is the real motive for the murder, but it's a fantastic theory!

[@Lynnindy27]

Charles also put this clue on the murder board. They are in the Red Cross Hall of Fame for having AB- RHnull.

[@danielamendoza3701]

The more I watch, the more I remember what Sazz said on her great entrance in the last episode on S3. It doesn't make any sense but at the same time it does... Despite she's hilarious, she's giving us the main clue.

[@lonelyone]

I made a long comment in your last video about my "Sazz is Moriarty/orchestrated her own death" plot, and this episode only confirmed my suspicions. They were way too many references to Sazz possibly faking her own death, and Charles possibly still being a target ("Just like Sazz would have wanted."). Is it intentional at this point? We still haven't seen any conclusive evidence that she died; at the end of season 3, she was still alive, and we haven't seen a body yet (the prosthetics could have easily been planted on purpose), nor have we seen any flashbacks connecting the dots or DNA data confirming it's her ashes. They're really playing their hand close to the vest. I'm glad you're watching this episode-to-episode like the rest of us. I hate that there are people out there who have seen 9 of the episodes and could be posting their own "theories" in here, spoiling certain plot points and then taking "credit" when they're right. Loretta is a real tin-foil hat theory. I think it would be weird to clear her in season 3 only to reveal her as the killer in season 4. What could her motive against Charles/Sazz possibly be? But who knows. That "adorable little piglet" line is weird, but I think the writers are obsessed with ham at this point. You made a great point about the person who slipped the flyer under the door knowing Howard would take the bait and leave the apartment. I wonder if that was orchestrated by the culprit themselves in order to get into the apartment undetected and obtain something or other. I do like being clueless this season, but I hate waiting week to week to slowly unravel this mystery. I'm just waiting for the soundtrack to come out and for one of the track titles to be a spoiler again, like the last three seasons. The "order of the apartments" line in that article probably has more to do with continuity than anything. I'm still iffy on whether the Westies could be involved, although I'm still obsessed with the "E" drawn on Rudy's torso. Since it seems like there is at least one person on both the East and West coasts involved, there could be a helper. And I'm also curious about who could have taken that photo, and how long ago it was.

[@DoublePMedia]

I'm iffy on the Westies / I know there's still more to their deal. And yes Loretta Theory is in flat-Earth crazy space!

[@Jillian_Paige]

I’m right there with you. My very first impression of the season, before Episode 1 was even over, was that Sazz faked her death and the “clues” might have been planted by her to throw off anyone who tried to solve her disappearance. But that doesn’t match up with the end of Season 3 (with her dramatically bleeding out on the floor), so I decided that was ridiculous. But there were SO many hints to that in the dialogue this episode. It’s torturing me, too. 🤪 (And I’m putting it in writing just in case it turns out to be true!)

[@DoublePMedia]

I'm trying to get my mind to stop thinking "Sazz faked her death" but almost every item in the show makes me think it -- Could Sazz have been leaving stunt work, leaving Charles, and wanted to give him a fun mystery to solve for his podcast?

[@scottwesley6181]

Order of the apartments. When Oliver and Mabel first get on the floor they visit to interview the apartments as they walk down the hall…and end up not getting to Christmas Guy the same time as the others. So either something in between that time and him is involved or something that happened to either allow Mabel and Eva Longoria go there for a specific reason.

[@DoublePMedia]

Did Mabel actually record any of the interview with Christmas Guy?

[@donnasonnenfeld3078]

So I think the answer to why the apartment sets needed to be built next to each other is that the DOORS can open BETWEEN the apartments! So the Westies can walk from one apartment into another horizontally and never have to walk out into the hallway! If what one person who commented here is right-and I think they are into something here-Dudenoff probably rented ONE BIG apartment and subdivided it into four, including his studio. So the residents can walk from one apartment to another from the INSIDE!

[@superjohngoldsmith8406]

Why did she fake her death? To escape Jan? To run away with Jan? To uncover something?

[@DoublePMedia]

To give Charles a new podcast to work on!

[@dolewhipfan]

Another possible Hitchcock reference is the Christmas TRAIN + Perfect STRANGERS theme song = Strangers on a Train?

[@DoublePMedia]

YES!

[@Tru3_Detective]

Great theory. Nothing's Gonna Stop You now! (jumping high-five)

[@PeacefulGanja]

I think Bev Melon and Sazz are connected more than we think. Sazz wanted to keep her Stunt Academy secret and we are led to believe she only told Charles about it since they have a close friendship. Could it be that Sazz and Bev formed some sort of friendship/bond/business relationship or maybe Bev learned about the academy through Jan in an interview (Assuming Sazz told Jan) and decided to go there for scout location? Or maybe Bev is secretly a huge mystery fan/addict and went there to investigate on her own? (Lol)

[@DoublePMedia]

Did Bev help Sazz get the money to buy it? You're thinking the correct things

[@zinaidanasoeva8128]

There was another attempt to kill Charles with a real bottle during the funeral wasn't it ?I think Charles is a target still.

[@DoublePMedia]

There will be another attempt on Charles for sure

[@jackiebishop2177]

Why are we so obsessed with the Sazz being alive theory?? We still don’t know why she went to get the wine instead of Charles. If the FBI knew the remains were not Sazz’s would they not let us know that? I do think maybe they wanted to spare us the sight of a likeable character being killed and thrown down the chute. She is the most likeable victim, and a woman as well, so seeing something so gruesome could move this show away from the comedic element. Bunny was NOT likeable, but her death was still hard to watch, and even she had last words. Did Sazz have last words to Charles? Does anyone remember what floors the trio are on? The person saying the order of apartments is important makes me think of the number 13: most old buildings had no 13th floor, so if a killer was targeting someone on 14 and up, a miscount could have occurred. I was wrong about Dudenoff being dead, but why would Sazz have his name written down? Since her Stunt Park was in New York, maybe she was going to consider moving to the Arconia, into one of the rent controlled apartments. Where was poor Gravey while Howard was cuddled up with Hammy Faye Baker??

[@dr.nazeerareem]

I feel Dr Maggie was in one sided love with Sazz and because Charles was stressing Sazz (she mentioned about a bad relationship), she tried to kill Charles but instead killed Sazz. And because she is a Chiropractor she is strong enough to carry Sazz's body to the incinerator. Also her voice resembles the voice on the ham radio. And the most important clue i have is in the promo when they show that a woman picks up the gun and aims, that looks exactly like her...

[@MeanBob866]

I think once we decide for sure who the target was, most other things will fall into place. It keeps coming up that these suspects have unexpected connections to Sazz, and we know Sazz was sniffing around strange places, so she is looking like the real target, right? I don't know, it seems a little too convenient that Sazz left this elaborate trail behind that leads right to the suspects. Whether this means the death or the clues or both are fake, still up in the air.

[@ICRockets]

If the whole floor needed to be build at the same time, I'd guess we'll eventually get some sort of one-take of the murder. Not sure any clues can necessarily be gleaned from that prospect, but who knows?

[@janmitchell3976]

as you explained the apartments it made me realize that there will be secret tunnels attached to the bathrooms

[@DoublePMedia]

Here we go!

[@tessthiele7293]

Why hasn’t Tobert been mentioned all season? Also, I love the Loretta theory. Also, as I was rewatching season 3, I noticed Ben Glenroy and Charles had beef, then I was like what if Ben isn’t dead, or he has a twin? Then his stuntman shows up this episode! I think Sazz is definitely hiding and is tied with a lot of these characters we are meeting this season. Could the blood from her wound be pig blood? I assume fake blood, if she faked her death, wouldn’t show up with luminol.

[@DoublePMedia]

The Arconia Moriarty is going to be a combo of Oscar, Alice, Tobert and Theo - Mabel's ex's come together for revenge :)

[@tessthiele7293]

@@DoublePMediaplot twist! What if the arm around Loretta is Tobert!

[@insightemcena5493]

Tin foil hat theory: Someone that used to live in the Arconia and hates Charles is posing as Dudenov and doing the rent thing so they can later incriminate wichever Westie suits them better and have access to that intire floor in the Arconia. That person can also blackmail all of the Westies because of their illegal activity, they were picked not all of the kindness of Dudenov soul, but because they are down on their luck naive weirdos, that would be easy to control. Dudenov isin't in Portugal, the person relocated to L.A. and is probably involved in the movie

[@DoublePMedia]

I think this would work.--- we just need the missing Dude (nov) :)

[@waylenmiki_1]

With all your talk about Hitchcock films, I thought maybe there's a Strangers on a Train situation going on. Like a murder swap of some sort. But then we'd need to see a second murder. But I'm keeping my hopes up for another murder!

[@ShinyHunterSolyu]

This is just to add the the deep end theory for Loretta. She had hit on Charles so that Oliver can be scared enough to move with her to LA. She got Sazz killed by mistake 😂might actually be Scott Bakula. Right now besides Rudy being involved somehow. I just have a bad feeling that Howard will be the next victim if it isn’t Jan. They are giving him way too much focus.

[@DoublePMedia]

You've given me a chill by implying Howard will be a victim --- No!!!

[@Brihomi99]

What if Loretta is Helga? We know she's good with accents after the 3rd season she could easily fake the accent that was on the ham radio, also she left right after sazz was killed. She had to have had help though someone left that note for Lester while everyone was in LA

[@DoublePMedia]

Loretta as Helga would be an INCREDIBLE reveal. But does that mean she dated Christmas All The Time Rudy?

[@nicolascedresalonso1220]

Just suscribed! hammy faye being in the lesbian brothers's tournament as a caddy is a great hint. It makes us sure Sazz knew the westies and she is either the 6th person in the picture or the one that took it We have one slot left and I think Helga is Loretta, and the arms that keep popping up in her posts are Rudy's. Loretta's accents are not perfect , but maybe good enough to trick the westies

[@DoublePMedia]

THANK YOU FOR SUBSCRIBING! I agree with you - Helga is a big outstanding question.

[@JodyBraden]

Is Glenn really Ben?. What if Ben switched with his stuntman Glen after he was poisoned, he tapped out and Glen tapped in. This would explain his hallucinations of rats, and constantly trying to get them away from him. Touchback to the rat poisoning. Also if Ben wasn't the kid actor that Charles got fired from the show, it may have been Glen. Thinking he could have had the fame, be the face, if he stayed on the show.

[@KK-zc8eo]

Wait, Sazz's Helga note is written on a 5 1/2 Lesbian Brothers calendar/schedule sheet?! The subtlety of the clues is magnificent this season. It's in direct contrast to the bombacity of most characters' in the show.

[@rezenpremium]

Bev seemed to have aimlessly pointed the gun where that blinding flash (from Oliver’s iPad) was beaming from. She’ll probably get cleared early in the next episode, then be instrumental in revealing more motive for the West Coast characters.

[@lindarock3946]

Omg I'm so confused 😮❤but still love this show. I'm just along for the ride and enjoying every minute of it. Keep all these amazing theories coming ❤🎉😊

[@DoublePMedia]

You and me both! But I can't do it alone, I need your help on the Clue Crew :)

[@rdmn2001]

I don't know if someone already pointed this out, and it probably doesn't mean anything in the first place, but... it's intriguing to note that "MACHADO" (axe, in English) is a very common PORTUGUESE surname. Maybe the "a*machado" account could be linked to Dudenoff's Portugal scheme somehow? Very unlikely, I think, but it's interesting that they specifically chose such a portuguese surname for a random, fake interaction on Instagram.

[@helenvincent6663]

I have a theory that The Sauce Family, along with Vince Fish and Rudy, are smuggling in Portuguese hams. I think they are illegal to bring into the USA...? Plus, very expensive. The ham radios help them to do this undercover business without leaving an incriminating trail behind. Where this fits into the murder, however, I do not know!

[@DoublePMedia]

Thank you, as I mentioned, you don't need ham radios to run a rent scam

[@markramsey5435]

Maybe Sazz took the photo & Loretta was in the photo.. That's how they know each other

[@DoublePMedia]

MARK! Smart thought!

[@markramsey5435]

@DoublePMedia Bev & Brother Sisters might be involved with killing, removing the body, and cleaning up evidence... Plus, Bev is established to be bad with faces & she might have thought it was Charles in the flat.. One of Brother Sisters shot the rifle & another one removed the body

[@richardlarson9459]

I'm leaning towards Glenn Stubbins. Is it possible that he was actually Ben Glenroy's brother and not just his stunt double. Ben and Glenn? I mean, he is Ben's exact twin. Maybe Ben didn't even know he had another brother. Same father different (Irish) mother or a Parent Trap scenario where they were separated at birth? And it sounded like he blamed Charles for getting Ben killed. Now he's out of a job because his only "Face" was Ben. If he kills Charles's stunt person, then maybe he can take Sazz's place. In fact he does ask them if Charles needs a stunt man for his new movie. Then there's the Brazzos thing. Take out Sazz from Brazzos and you get Bro, as in Cobro or Brother. Is the Brothers Sisters name just a clue pointing towards "Brothers"?

[@richardlarson9459]

Also, could Sazz writing "Tap In" on the floor be her way of trying to tell Charles that the killer was also a stunt man?

[@sweetjess826]

Oliver showed us how the door code spelled out "oh hell" , but I wanted to point out how the ham radio station 445 spells out "shh", is it because they're keeping secrets?

[@DoublePMedia]

amen!

[@robomuffin1386]

Ok... tinfoil hat theory.... The BROTHER SISTERS are like P said maybe triplets... so maybe just maybe season 3 was foreshadowing season 4? idk but I feel like I'm onto something.

[@DoublePMedia]

Which of Brothers Sisters Triplets Did It? Charles thought he had a tongue twister before :)

[@sophiew2934]

This might sound dumb I’m lowkey thinking that maybe somebody at the stunt bar is involved bc of that one bottle which was not a fake one which got smashed on Charles as they made it seem like an accident but that would be a good alibi to injure Charles. Plus they all looked pretty strong so wouldn’t struggle with moving the body. Also a long shot but maybe if a stunt double did it they are qualified enough to find a different way into the apartment that wouldn’t require them walking down the corridor to enter the dudenoff apartment. I am also lowkey convinced helga is the chiropractor bc of the massage with helga thing and I just got a vibe

[@DoublePMedia]

My guts tells me the stunt people might come back as the heroes.

[@sophiew2934]

@@DoublePMediayh that probably makes more sense aha

[@cookiesandmilk686]

Ι am gonna be honest i don't like the theory that Sazz is alive. Would i be happy if she is alive? Of course, i love her. Would it be a good writing choice? No. This season holds a lot emotional gravity and it showed us Charles hallucinating Sazz and their relationship. Sazz faking her death would be really f*cked up. I don't want writers to go that way. About the westies... They are suspicious. Wdym Dudenoff just let each of you pay just 200 dollars rent. They basically live there for free. I don't think they murdered Sazz but they hide something bigger. Maybe they killed Dudenoff. I also don't believe them when they said that Helga is crazy.

[@DoublePMedia]

I feel the same! A fake death would be anticlimactic. But since the first episode, something's been off with Sazz's death... and fake death is one way the 'odd' feeling can make sense.

[@bananadog152]

A. Machado could be a reference to Antonio Machado, a famous Spanish poet

[@lukacunningham342]

Why couldn’t the opener clue be Oliver with a tablet? He brought it to the bar, he had it in the opening, I want to see the wonders Oliver can do with a tablet. I want to see him take out a criminal and beat the living cr*p out of them with a fricking tablet! Also, we can all safely assume Glen’s a masocist - and resembles alot like Jacksepticeye, love Rudd back though! (And I believe the reason he has a fear of rats was because Ben - his identical - was almost killed by RAT poison). Also, WHAT THE HECK, SHOW, YOU INTRODUCED ANOTHER GROUP OF CHARACTERS, WE’LL NEVER FIGURE OUT WHO THE MURDERER IS ON TIME! Michael’s acting was pretty good for the audition part, shame they’re not doing the aftershow, he was an amazing host. Right now, I believe NONE of them did it because I’m pretty sure by the half-way point of this godsforsaken Agatha Christie modern world television series, they will introduce ANOTHER GROUP! Maybe they’ll give us Sazz’s retirement group or perhaps original characters from the first two seasons or perhaps the next set of suspects will be in Charles’ mind because he has finally LOST it! After four murders, multiple breakups and falls through his career, plus living alone for most of his years, you couldn’t blame his mental state. My only thoughts during the ending: Oliver: Oh thank god, someone from the film industry! *Bev cocks gun* Me: *OH GOD, SOMEONE FROM THE FILM INDUSTRY!* 😰

[@DoublePMedia]

Oliver going 'ham' with his tablet would be brilliant!

[@PeacefulGanja]

The Loretta theory is especially interesting when you consider Zack Galifianakis' monologue in the opening of Ep 3.

[@DoublePMedia]

Trapped at work... remind me

[@PeacefulGanja]

@@DoublePMedia Zach: "I once had an acting teacher who said, 'Finding your character is a lot like a detective finding a killer.' His thinking went you build this character piece by piece. What are their physical qualities? Their skills or special talents? Their motivations? You keep doing that, asking and answering a million questions, until there's only one person in the whole world who fits that description. Your character. Anyway, that's obviously bullshit. As a proud Greek man, presumably descended from Thespis himself, trust me when I say ACTING IS EASY."

[@PeacefulGanja]

@@DoublePMedia it seems a few clues may be pointing to an actor being involved. Whether it's an actual actor, an aspiring actor, or, as Zach said to close his monologue, someone where acting just comes easy to them.

[@Loretta-t7u]

There has been a lot of talk about Oliver’s flash/brightness of screen… what if there is some type of rear window moment at the end with his flash “blinding” the killer like in Rear Window??

[@SRPDEB]

One thing I feel isn't being mentioned is the recurring element of Stunt People and by extension doubles. Like you have a mystery where a major factor is people who career it is to look like other people and being physically strong (I assume - anyway the should be able to lift Sazz body). Along with the directors for the Only Murder film being a pair of twin (maybe triplets) that hires actor for the main three and likely the other characters soon. I just feel it is weird nobody is bringing up the probability that at some point somebody is going to act as someone else in the story to trick the characters. I mean it is a classic mystery trick that they just set up perfectly and Ben Glenroy's stunt double being brought up should have clued us in to the possibility.

[@DoublePMedia]

Got me thinking about that. Have we seen someone where we assume it's one person, but its actually someone else? (the limo driver?)

[@thomasrafferty7184]

Helga is Dr. Maggie the Chiropractor.

[@DoublePMedia]

Could be -- why do think?

[@thomasrafferty7184]

@@DoublePMedia She's a woman. She has the accent. She's tall and slender like the woman with the blacked out face holding the pig in Vince Fish's picture.

[@sandirawrmore6776]

I can’t shake it. I think Howard is the Moriarty, because he wants to be Charles. Everything from the acting career to the podcast is something Howard would love to have, but still not sure if he killed Sazz accidentally. I do think Sazz’s ex was Bev and that’s the “relationship” she wanted to talk to Charles about. Anyone else?

[@DoublePMedia]

Don't shake it :) Bev and Sazz would make perfect sense

[@sandirawrmore6776]

@@DoublePMedia if Bev wants to get to Sazz, who better to hire than Charles? Maybe that’s why she was doubling for Bakula, to not be available?

[@kreestenkreesten]

Thank you!

[@nmmnt]

Also, Machado is a pretty common last name here in LATAM (at least here in Brazil), so maybe "a machado" could be Ana, the west tower daughter

[@DoublePMedia]

Ooooo - we don't know the 'Sauce' family's last name yet?

[@AnastasiyaAidyna]

couldn't it be another clue?))) as dudenhoff being some acronym and Machado being as "much ado about nothing"?..

[@KK-zc8eo]

Howard sauntering in exactly where eveyone is at everytime - no knock, no warning, is really taking me out

[@DoublePMedia]

Wouldn't you like to live like Howard

[@KK-zc8eo]

​@DoublePMedia definitely not! What a busybody! But I agree with you on the apartment alignment theory. The title has murders and building in it, that structure has proven shady thus far and it's about to get a lot more ominous I think. Noticed how noone, and I mean noone is their best self in there? Everybody's stuck, they're all frozen people - nobody's really becoming anything or coming into themsleves. Mable's caught in it too. Anyway, can't wait to see what exposition Bev will bring forth next episode. Maybe she's a doppelganger too. But she surely will be a conduit to the Hollywood connection in all this. See ya next week!

[@toboz28]

To me it seems that Christmas guy Rudy is way too keen for Mabel to not look in the direction of the Ham radio anymore with the explaination of who his crazy ex Helga is and why she's talking about getting murdered if you look into the Westies. What if the last person to ask questions about the Westies and died because of it is Professor Dudenoff? He might have wanted to sell the apartments on that floor, but Rudy couldn't let him do that. So now the Westies are claiming that Dudenoff is in Portugal and letting them rent for cheap. What if Rudy killed Dudenoff together with Helga, keeps sending hams to Vince in a Portugal flag (why would imported ham be wrapped in a flag if not to make sure that other tenants think they're coming from Portugal and not a nearby deli) and Helga is trying to clear her concience? So I don't think based on this theory that the Westies have anything to do with the murder of Sazz, but someone who knows the apartment is free and has access to the keypad code does. So whoever the crossed out face on the picture is has this information, could that be Loretta? But what's her motive to kill? Or has she given this information to someone in Hollywood as her way of getting a big movie role?

[@DoublePMedia]

Exactly! There's way more to the Westies/Dudenoff apartment mystery, but Im not sure how tightly they play into Sazz's death

[@juliebrusca7434]

The golf score card on Sazz' desk reads "THE 5-1/2 LESBIAN BROTHERS INVITATIONAL GOLF TOURNAMENT." I don't think the writers would include this oxymoron just to make us laugh. What if the tournament is sponsored by someone with the surname Brothers... like the directing sisters. (Shout out to @Sunflowerdivinity, who first commented on the phrase Lesbian Brothers.)

[@thomasahearn4142]

Looks like you were right about Ben having a twin after all! Well, kind of. Is it possible that Sazz was planning to retire but only after being Scott Bakula's stunt double?

[@DoublePMedia]

LOL - next year we'll see a Ben triplet :) Yes, Sazz would retire after Bakula work, smart

[@MeganSanderson-b5w]

So I have a new theory that Sazz (friends with her on Insta even though we never saw them meet) knew something 'sensitive' about Loretta and I think it might be to do with Dickie's father! I have no idea how it pieces together but in season 2, it's implied his father was a 'director from New York' and maybe he knew Sazz because of that and saw Loretta getting famous on Broadway etc and made the connection?! I don't know... working theory!! ALSO wondering if Prof Dudenoff worked on the pain Sazz was experiencing??? Maybe that Chiropractor recommended him and she'll come back into it again (great actress)!

[@MeganSanderson-b5w]

Also! In terms of the map, the way the wall panel popped open this episode, I wonder if there are other secret doors and the door from eye patch guy's apartment (visible in the corner) leads to the Dudenoff place too??

[@MeganSanderson-b5w]

Last one! I wonder if the sauce family daughter, Ana is it, was training to be a stunt person and Sazz was helping as a woman?!!

[@DoublePMedia]

A passage into the Dudenoff would be smart. Arresting Vince, and then having Charles take his place in the 'Oh Hell' game - that'd be a nice ending

[@CelticAce2011]

Did anyone notice that in the Brazzo's flashback scene the police badges that Charles and Sazz are wearing have different numbers. Charles on had 6819 and Sazz's one had 6662. If the were portraying the same character shouldn't the police badge have the same number.

[@DoublePMedia]

Brazzos - worst continuity on TV! :)

[@belzski8110]

Q: would Sazzs prosthetics have an identity code on them that could be used to identify her?

[@DoublePMedia]

Wonderful question

[@davidsmilerarandomkiwifrom6045]

I don't know what it means and most likely is a red herring but in the opening credits the name of the actor who plays Howard keeps changing places of where its positioned. I've never seen that before

[@DoublePMedia]

Great catch, I hadn't noticed

[@BMoney8600]

I know the past two episodes have been about the Westies but I still don’t trust them. Even after they fessed up to Mabel I just can’t bring myself to trust em. Again, maybe the person that did it was the person that took the picture of all of them and that person left evidence in all of their apartments. Again I know this season isn’t done yet but they’re still on my metaphorical list of suspects.

[@DoublePMedia]

100% they are still hiding things!

[@SuperWeebBros]

Okay, two things we might be able to disregard in terms of Sazz faking her death 1. The "killer" got into and is using Sazz's phone: They just held it up to her dead face and used face unlock. However, this doesn't account for how they continue to use it after Sazz is incinerated, unless they just have had it on 24/7, because unless I'm wrong you can't register another face ID without the security pin. 2. The "Killer" had to be someone who knew Sazz was supposed to be working with Baccula: Again, they had her phone, and could have looked at her calendar or emails and seen that she was contracted to double for Baccula

[@DoublePMedia]

Good work Detective. We need to find that phone!

[@oxigen85]

1. You just turn off face lock. Or maybe it was a fingerprint lock and they, ahem, borrowed a finger.

[@SuperWeebBros]

@oxigen85 Unless I'm mistaken, you have to have a security pin if you have Face ID, and you can't disable it without the pin And there's no fingerprint on iPhones, which we know Sazz has because her texts with Charles aren't green bubbles

[@AnastasiyaAidyna]

Question 1: Why is Jan in Florida? who's she following there? Question 2: Are Helga and Sazz connected - I suspect them to be the same person ... (and now helga is covering for sazz) or Helga is Loretta - and that's why Sazz let Ruddy settle in her apartment ... hmmm I still am sure that Rudy is involved - being the one who left the notes on sazz's table - did he track helga? did he find sth? and hence, Question 3 - who was looking at Charles? according to the note on sazz's table... Bev has definitely been able to come up with this scheme. I talked about her with another vlogger, so I guess now everyone is leaning towards this option. I admire this season's concept sooo much - each episode being an homage to a famous movie! and again - Question 4 - has this episode been significant in terms of a plot - has someone fallen in love with someone as you've mentioned a stunt-man fell in love with a lead lady?..

[@nicolascedresalonso1220]

Helga is loretta , let's remember she "can" fake accents

[@DoublePMedia]

#wicked idea - I love it!

[@DoublePMedia]

These are good questions! A stunt man with the movie's producer!

[@ang7580]

으악 궁금해!!!!!

[@AnastasiyaAidyna]

@@DoublePMedia yeah... it's like a picture where the more you look into it - the more you see and as a result see nothing))

[@FrancisSyCoCo]

who would have thought Paul Rudd would be coming back... nobody see that coming eh

[@DoublePMedia]

I did not see that coming either! Wish they'd given him a broken nose, or something to really make Glen's face different from Ben's

[@tylerhunt2141]

Who do we think is Christmas guys' "crazy" ex girlfriend? Was she the one scratched out of the photo? She must have some significance/will come back in some way, right? I wonder if its someone we already know...

[@jennawhite1277]

Do we know the last name of the sauce family? Maybe Ana is A Machado?

[@DoublePMedia]

Here we go! Love that idea!

[@therealysn2404]

I think the person in the Westies picture thats colored over could be “Helga” ot Lorretta. They seem to have “pig”tails lay on the front of their overalls.

[@DoublePMedia]

They're next to Rudy too!

[@finolaharvey8905]

Could the tinsel be wrapping string which was Lorettas day job...think Oliver is in for heartache sadly..

[@DoublePMedia]

Oliver doesn't deserve such pain!

[@finlaybeaton2124]

Really lost on this one, I went back to look at the notes sazz left. 'Long game' was written on a golf score card - pig's can find golf balls maybe 'Helga' was written on a boarding pass. Sazz must have met her. The delivery reception is for a called Hancock park in L.A. - 2 notes was written on it. There is a napkin with 11, 13, 26, 14, 86. The first numbers are scored out and the last 3 have '?' After them. Like she was trying to find a code or an address. Dudenoff it written on a folded card with a partially hidden logo. From that, looking for the relevance of the numbers amd maybe the logo. Though it could be the Marconia logo.

[@DoublePMedia]

Having lived in L.A., I wonder if Sazz's apt wasn't located in Hancock Park. Good thought on the logo

[@patriciaspear3231]

If Sazz faked her death she needed help. Who would that be and why? Also there is no bullet on the tray of things gound in the incinerator ashes that i can see. They identified a bullet by a cartridge not by one found in the incinerator

[@DoublePMedia]

Another great question: When did Jan break out of prison?

[@richardlarson9459]

Another thing I noticed was that Christmas guy's sweater and Mabel's coat have the same colors as the flag of Portugal. Is that a clue?

[@DoublePMedia]

Ho Ho Ho - great catch!

[@GenXMind67]

Would it be a big leap if there is more than one suspect? We are assuming it is one person when it could be two people working together OR in tandem (same time but not necessarily together). Someone removes the body while the other person cleans up. Question: Do we know the timeline from when Sazz left the party to get the wine to when Charles, Mabel and Oliver arrive at Charles apartment? Okay, so, M. Dudenoff, Pig, Piglet, Ham Radio, Squeal, Portugal...I am going to give that a think. This may be the biggest clues (along with the immediate neighbors).

[@DoublePMedia]

Good question, but the party timeline is muddled. Charles says he's going to get the wine, but then its Sazz who heads up to the apartment

[@GenXMind67]

@@DoublePMedia Yeah, who knew that Charles was at the party, anticipating his return, waiting. But then Sazz...hmmm...could it be both were targeted? Okay, okay, I'll stop, for now.

[@AmyS79]

Golf score card says Lesbian Brothers at the top. Could be a reference to the sister Brothers.

[@DoublePMedia]

yss.... we need answers! :)

[@jt279]

I had the same thought. If one of them was involved with Sazz, as a director she would have influence over Sazz's career in the event of a break-up. Hence Sazz's decision to retire.

[@ishbeljathanna7348]

might be far fetched, what if the reason the photo shown on loretta's instagram is black and white is the arm belongs to rudy

[@DoublePMedia]

Could be - I wanna go even more far-fetched, could the arm belong to Glen (Ben's stunt double)

[@ShrutiP1998]

Ana also seemed like she had a ceush on rudy.

[@DoublePMedia]

Cue up: Gary Puckett & The Union Gap "Young Girl"

[@kimwaltz6114]

Sazz is voice on radio and Helga

[@irishted13]

Wonder if the release years of the movies the episodes are named after are a clue? Thinking back, we’ve seen Oliver in flashbacks going back to 70’s & 80’s; but I can’t think of any flashbacks going back into 60’s…

[@johnlong1846]

i caught something in previous episode . vince originally called his patch wearing due to “antibiotic resistant pink eye, the virus moves from eye to eye”. then in next episode he tell charles and oliver “ i cant get rid of this “bacterial conjuctivitis”. He appears to randomly change his diagnosis with no explanation.

[@DoublePMedia]

Afraid to google "bacterial conjunctivitis" for the images coming back :)

[@antonioherrera3660]

On the Instagram like, and the Westie family. They are intruduced by Charles as "The Sauce Family". But I doubt that is their name, he just calls them that because they make sauce. They could be the Machado family, and when Oliver & Mabel meet them they intruduce themselves by first name, the dad being Alfonso..a*machado

[@DoublePMedia]

Yes! I call them the 'Sauce' familiy, but they must have a family name. What is it?

[@antonioherrera3660]

@DoublePMedia a clue for sure. The credits only show the actor names, and searching the web only show them by first name. Ana, Inez, Alfonso. Maybe they are the Mechados and it was left out for a reason until later.

[@Tru3_Detective]

I think A*Machado is just an Easter egg, a reference to Antonio Machado who was big on symbolism. First time my useless degree (might've?) come in handy.

[@mckenziewilkes]

The more I think about Rudy, the less he makes sense. Like I get it that he had a viral Christmas-themed video so his online brand and workout videos need to be Christmas-themed, but why does he have to be Christmas themed in the privacy of his own home? His viewers and followers can’t see him there! I can’t tell if I’m overthinking a joke on the show or if there’s something more there, because the more I ruminate the weirder I find it!

[@DoublePMedia]

Completely agree on Rudy! As the feedback mentioned, he wasn't in a Christmas sweater in the Dudenoff picture. Are we weird enough to live in the West Tower? :)

[@Carlitty]

Episode 5 is Adaptation... Isn't that a movie about TWINS???

[@DoublePMedia]

YES! And it stars Loretta Durkin :)

[@cheri7054]

I think Westies are red herrings. This is about the movies.All episodes are titled with movie themes. There was no death here so aI can’t even go there. If there was forensic evidence then I’m all in. Nothing tested yet no death m. The guy in the bar even says no body no death.

[@DoublePMedia]

Westies are red-herrings, but they may not be innocent of all crimes. Something sketch is happening in the West Tower.

[@cheri7054]

@@DoublePMedia They seem odd for sure. Not enough info to know what’s going on with them.

[@urielaguilar5623]

Ana or Alfonso is maybe a.machado also lesbian brothers tournament? Aren’t the directors called The Brothers, could be that the movie was a bit too boring so they had to introduce one more murder? Could tie in the fake death theory and Sazz shows up at the grand premiere as the best stunt of all time

[@DoublePMedia]

This idea makes me giggle. The first season was 10 episodes, but the Brothers Sisters think not enough happened to make a 2-hour movie :)

[@urielaguilar5623]

@@DoublePMedia needed something to tie them in, only thing I could think of or maybe one of the twins is actually Charles or sazz daughter

[@rooneyx]

The IG photo liked by 3,838 or 38 38 the ages of the twin Brothers sisters?

[@DoublePMedia]

WOW, I love that