Let's Talk About "Fanservice"

[@the1truejoe178]

people shipping celebrities and harassing them when they arent actually in a relationship are genuinely psycotic

[@_nata1i3c]

Fr

[@Calisunshine143]

There are people that still think FS video is fake… when Freen said it is real 😅

[@the1truejoe178]

@ville__ and you are?

[@yoyo9winner]

Andrew Garfield is the one that comes to mind

[@benedict0902]

Aldub if anyone here knows that

[@Oncehermes]

One thing i absolutely hate is when an anime isn't sexual in the slightest, and its main focus has nothing to do with romance or sex but theyll just throw in random fanservice moments for literally 0 reason

[@Oncehermes]

Or when they sexualize underage characters like cmon bro -_-

[@Erica-nf2tj]

Bonus points if the fanservice is smack dab in the middle of an emotionally intense or otherwise suspenseful moment and the sexualized character is randomly shoehorned into the scene.

[@acoelomate2984]

Fr like I’ll be like “yay finally a chill show for me to watch that’s about platonic relationships and shit” and then boom butt shot

[@strawbunnyoxox]

THIS bc it is so unnecessary and makes me so uncomfortable and immediately i just want to turn it off

[@angel127_]

@@acoelomate2984me when watching komi can’t communicate 😭 the random close up shots of her skirt made me stop watching

[@Melisaoffxl12]

It became worse when they tryna justify SA and r4p3 too 💀💀 it's like they are no normal people with normal mindset anymore 💀💀

[@PooppieCannibalism]

Don't forget inc3st too

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

Reminds me of a hot Asian lady getting SA'd because a fan found what train station she went to from the reflection of her eye in a picture. Really horrible stuff.

[@moshroomm]

i can't believe what im looking at when they do weird shit (like why do some scenes always have some suspiciously incestous implications) its so off putting or downright gross i just dont even want to process that it ever happened and move on with the anime

[@Vindicador01]

Women are to blame for fanservice,inceldom is directly caused by female behavior in dating We incels are right women are the judges of a man worth in this society a man cam be anything but if women are not attracted to him,if he is single for too long or if he doesn't have a "rizz" is a looser and all the weight of judgment falls on him. But here are some reasons why dating is impossible for young men feel free to dispute me: There are more men than women specially below 40 If you are broke then the chance It is minimal unless you have good looks More female asexuals than male asexuals Women are much more picky,choosy,judgy specially in dating Women They are much content alone than men, due in part to the little society punishment that single women have,single men suffer humiliation, degradation and displacement specially virgin men Virgin men are unattractive to most women Most women have plenty of options,most men are lucky if they have two due to supply and demand men desire women more,most women are attracted to a small amount of men,the top ones but most men are attracted to most women Short guys(5'6 and below)are unattractive to almost all women Men have to do the approach Women have much lower sex drive than men and are more harder to arouse. We are right in almost every point yet people like to lie. Men are in the most risky jobs and also more men die in much more numbers and also die younger wtf,and women tell themselves they are the ones that are opressed If Elliot rodger had been a woman I am 100% sure wouldn't have a any problem having a partner, women have it so easy its infuriating 😡😡😡

[@Emshii_]

saying this and having a makima profile pic absolutely killed me

[@viikkii9100]

fanservice has actually ruined so many animes for me

[@Chib_Lee]

fr like i dont want to see big titties on my screen like im lesbian but iu dont want it shoved in my face and then theres theese weird fangirls who fucking die for bts or other male pop bands

[@Poptomist]

The only anime I could bear with fanservice in it was assassination classroom

[@viikkii9100]

@@Poptomist agreed

[@Excelsior1937]

Yep. I watched Evangelion for the first time earlier this year, and it WOULD be the easiest “10/10 must watch” I could ever give IF it wasn’t full of a bunch of perverted stuff that has made it the face of creepy underage fanservice stuff. So now it’s sitting in my mind as something that deeply resonated with me, something I would love to recommend to others, but can’t actually recommend because I don’t want to give something like that my stamp of approval.

[@catfartstinky]

@@Poptomistnah, shi still weird considering that the characters are teenagers

[@sklipse]

You could simply just be watching an anime scene where two girls are sitting down having a simple conversation but the camera is angled directly where the sun don't shine 💀

[@missstranger7697]

​@@selflovewithpolaSame here.

[@licas3214]

​@@selflovewithpola nah, you watch the wrong demographics, try to watch shoujo or josei

[@dove2826]

@@selflovewithpola Same :/ I try to get into anime but it the fanservice is so ICKY. I don't want to be reminded about how women and GIRLS are sexualized for everything everywhere when I'm trying to escape reality with a fun show

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

@@licas3214 Bro, finding good shoujo or josei is like trying to find waldo. NEAR impossible imo

[@KalicoKal]

@@ascrinkleyfellow why are you lying shojo is good af granted the oddly tall and lanky characters take some getting used to but bruh shojo be hitting go watch host club or something or pick up the mangas in shojo if there’s not enough anime out there for you

[@siddhipandey9653]

Whoever decided to make school uniforms sexy was sick in the mind

[@bohanxu6125]

I think it probably stems from puberty imprint. Did you grow up in a country that makes student wear uniform? By the way, I don't find any teenager/preteen feature sexy, but school uniform is kinda sexy to me.

[@Absolutelynonone]

​@@bohanxu6125 bro wtf

[@bohanxu6125]

@@Absolutelynonone I meant to say, "By the way, I don't find any teenager/preteen feature sexy". It had a typo. It used to be "By the way, I don't give any teenager/preteen feature sexy" which is gibberish...well...a sus/weird sounding gibberish

[@Absolutelynonone]

@bohanxu6125 No, it's the part of finding school uniforms sexy. That's weird. Something that is worn by minors shouldn't be sexually appealing to anyone.

[@bohanxu6125]

@@Absolutelynonone Let's ignore what's weird for a moment. Let's first recognize the reality. A significant fraction of population who are not pedophile, find uniform sexy under current social condition. This is just an empirical reality. Many animal's sexual judgement are created by parental imprint. Some lab risen animal don't see their parents but see biologist during certain stage of early development. They will end up finding human attractive and refuse to mate with their own species. You can call this "weird" but this is just reality. We still haven't figured out how human develop their sexual judgement, but we know it is be more complicated. It is possible that the innocent teenager love/crash in school can leave some imprint on what people find attractive. Now whether you have this potential imprint it not depends on whether your childhood were in schools with uniform requirement. Like I said, finding school uniform attractive is very common, especially in Asia where uniform is common. The fraction of pedophile amoung those people is very small. You can try to create a negative social stigma and see if it would decrease the small fraction of pedophile with the collateral damage on a much fraction of people with uniform fetish... It's ambiguous whether it will end up worth it or not...and it's unclear whether work or not. If sigmatise something won't make the world a better place, then there is no point in defining it to be immoral.

[@bluemoon7785]

In my opinion, fan service becomes a problem when it starts to ruin the narrative. Like, when characters use reveling clothing that make no sense and just seems unpractical. Or when there's so much focus on those parts of their bodies, that you begin to think you're watching something else. And mostly, it really makes me uncomfortable when it's happening to an underage character. Sometimes a good fan service can make sense if it fits the character personality. But it just sucks that this is mostly something female characters deal with. Just goes to show how women are constantly over sexualized in our society.

[@Man-ej6uv]

real

[@mrkrabshankandersonreal]

100%.

[@M4ri0-025]

Darling in the Franx…

[@sakurayankishi9708]

​@ville__did you choose to be straight?

[@pavonluis2767]

@ville__real

[@luthebong]

With your bad mic I feel like I’m a housewife in the 1930s, listening to a very weird and futuristic radio show and I I love it

[@IshtarNike]

The only successful neg ever recorded?😅

[@_.nastou._]

Now that you're saying it, it's true!

[@jinhub2175]

Idk if thats an insult or a compliment...

[@vantae9023]

I literally screamed "SHES 14 WTF IS THISSS🤢" when Nezuko's demon body grew knockers the size of watermelons and her kimono slit opened dramatically around her cleavage and her legs in the Demon Slayer Entertainment Arc

[@aurea.]

Don't even get me started! It doesn't help that she barely has any lines at all (maybe that's explained at one point, I still find it weird how other demons can talk but she got reduced to just making noises).

[@baoziday5178]

The creator said that she made her chest bigger for fan service because I remember watching the first season and Nezuko's chest was literally flat in her Demon form Edit: People in the replies saying they don't sexualise children but it's okay if it's fiction, I have some news for you...

[@Melisaoffxl12]

AND THE AUTHOR OF DS IS A WOMAN 💀💀

[@cupio-stardust]

@@aurea. it’s bc of her muzzle, she wears it so she can’t taste blood.

[@inazuma2332]

ngl but its also weird for nezuko and zenitsus romance, sure he protects her and she can fight on her own. BUT HE MET HER IN CHILD FORM FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME(and first time)

[@smokeyskeet1694]

The amount of sa that happens in anime just hurts so much. It’s always played for laughs like “oh what a silly little pervert hehe”

[@stork2230]

it is also rather prevalent in thai bls and too often the assaulter and victim end up together and the SA is not brought up again

[@serenityssolace]

Maybe it's not SA cause they enjoy it secretly. And the moral police would ruin it

[@smokeyskeet1694]

@@serenityssolace I’ve never seen an anime where the girls being assaulted secretly enjoyed it. You’re just making excuses you weirdo.

[@HighlightCat]

@@serenityssolaceGet out of here. WTF

[@serenityssolace]

@@HighlightCat it's the classic notion of If I like the guy (if he's hot for me) he can harass me. I like it. If he is ugly then it's SA

[@phantette]

l could rant about how much I hate fan service in animes for AGESSSS. Unnecessarily sexual fanservice is the reason I don't watch most animes. Even as a lesbian, it's so obnoxious and uncomfortable seeing every female character have their boobs shoved into the screen and panty shots every 5 minutes. It doesn't help that sometimes it's with teenage girls or literal CHILDREN. It's so irritating and just drives me away from most animes ☹️

[@RandomLyneysimp]

EXACTLY. I will admit I can be a bit of a pervert at times, unfortunately (not towards the underaged characters though, people who sexualize them are fucking weird). But it still makes me very uncomfortable to see women constantly over sexualized and in some cases straight up assaulted. It's disgusting and it makes me feel ashamed for finding them appealing in the first place. Why can't I just enjoy a female character without her being shamelessly exploited 😭

[@DemiSuaton]

@@RandomLyneysimpI understand how you feel, fanservice exploits one’s sexual desires, and arousal so they can stay interested in what they’re watching. It’s not needed and it’s weird, and being turned on by something like that can honestly fuck someone up, like seriously it can influence porn addictions which can destroy someone’s life.

[@bababooey7418]

RIghtt like this really disproves males who justify young girls being sexualized in anime because they enjoy it. Like women who are attracted to women don't even like it. It's pure pedophilia and porn addiction.

[@Sandstimes]

​​@ville__ Trickster hopes ville will realize how fucking stupid ville would sound if ville did not use basic functions of speech. Trickster hopes ville starts attending ville's English classes.

[@bubble.beeeee]

Bruh i once watched an anime and thought "oh this is just another anime about boobs" i fucking hate this

[@Ash-vi3gg]

I was severely delusional about idols when I was 13 😭 I had to treat it in therapy lmao, it can be kind of harmful for some ppl imo. It's full of depressed young girls that can take it in an unhealthy way

[@Someonemkln]

What!?

[@GurlTherapy]

Waah

[@sarabensaied9213]

Bro what the fuck

[@Tsar_Tinna]

Me too lmao but im so so so glad i walked out of that phase pretty quickly, when i looked back i was beyond disgusted. Now that past of me as a k-pop fans is considered a dark era 💀

[@laskwkxkwkd]

Maybe dont admit that so casually-😭

[@kaiqk]

When you're a kpop fan and a thai bl/gl fan But it's pretty uncomfortable when a kpop fan is ACTUALLY delusional. Like it's all fun and games when it's jokingly like "that's my man" or like "yup s/he's talking about me" etc etc. ONLY AS A JOKE THOUGH. And for the thai gl/bl fans─ well for the delusional ones. They have to realize that not all the actors ARE GAY. And just because they clarify that they aren't DOESN'T MAKE THEM HOMOPHOBIC.

[@yoojeebee]

real

[@devi5267]

Still, I wish they didn't pull the fanservice like you acted in your movies or whatever it should end there; no need to pull it in live streams, etc. like they deliberately delude their fans into believing that they are in a relationship. like what is the difference between them and ticktockers who are acting gay (but they are not gay)just for attention and this seriously.

[@kaiqk]

@@devi5267 though I agree, sometimes it could be their managers or wtv telling them to do so. Or sometimes ppl view it as fan service when in reality they're js caring for each other, some ppl are js too delusional to the point where they over analyze things or they make things up.

[@devi5267]

@@kaiqk In the video, Emily called it 'Fanservice', which means it was deliberate; they like to tease fans about it. Although I agree that some fans take it too far, I have to say that acting as a queer person in real life when you are not is a scummy thing to do. I don't blame the actors, though. People should give companies flak for pulling gay 'fanservice' with real people, or at least not give it attention at all.

[@rx500android]

Hell yeah another kpop and thai bl/gl fans💖💖💖

[@kidkrowobsessed]

Emily could talk about quite literally anything and I'd click instantly

[@CheetoPuff111]

Literally same

[@canyouseethroughmytears]

Fr.

[@malemrajoinam]

Yes fr well besides the very 😭 videos

[@by_dev1l]

Same 😻

[@zzoreos]

Fr

[@Amertion]

Just to give context on the Thai BL+GL fanservice culture as a Thai person for anyone who is interested, it has always been a huge part of Thai media. From what I can tell growing up consuming Thai media, a lot of times they'll get two actors to act in a role together (either same and opposite sex, sometimes not even paired), and if there is a reponse for a pair in a certain media (they showed good chemistry on screen or something), then they pretty much get promoted together as a package for years or even over a decade. So, that is why, you just constantly get fed 'moments' from the same pairs and continuously see them in different projects together. Of course, there are also times where the actors do end up dating, but a lot of the times it is just part of their jobs and no one thinks much of it because this kind of promotion is normal in Thailand. The main difference I see between the Thai and international audience is that the Thai audience understand that it is just fanservice and don't take it too seriously, unlike the international ones. That's why, in Thai, there is even a phrase coined 'selling moments' (ขายโมเมนต์) that fans use because it is understood as marketing there. When the whole FreenBeck thing happened, even though I wans't a fan of theirs or the BL/GL industry in general, I could sort of understand the outrage from the international side. I could see how they might take the whole fanservice seriously since it wasn't part of their normal media culture. Although, the huge backlash the actors involved got was still totally uncalled for. Personally, I do think that this kind of culture that is ingrained in Thai media needs to change. Not only does it put the artists at risk when they decide to date someone who isn't the person the company paired them with, it also stops them from growing as a professional and individual when nothing regarding the work they put out changes at all, it's as if they're just stuck in a loop until the hype dies down. Unfortunately, though, because of how profitable the market has become, especially now with its growth internationally, I can only see them doubling down on this whole 'selling ships' thing and delusional fans just eating it up until a scandal breaks and they hop to new pair.

[@damnedifidonut]

Please what's your thoughts on "ohmnanon" because I think Thai people are taking this so seriously 😭

[@alexanderstudios3122]

I was literally having this conversation with my brother earlier. A few weeks ago I started watching Thai dramas starting with Love Senior then GAP. Watching these series was like a breath of fresh air because them being LGBT was like it was just a normal thing as opposed to here in America where if someone is LGBT in a show, they make it a big deal or as the odd man out. I have thirst traps that pop up on my FYP on TikTok (which I can't complain too much since there's no doubting some of these actors are very attractive), but I'll get the ship videos like FreenBecky and think it's so weird how delusional people can get. It's like they're ready to write an essay on the glance she gave the other stems from jealousy and a hidden longing for each other😂 Now the conversation I had started with me finding out that a movie and new show was coming out that Freen is playing in so of course I want to watch it. However I found out that Beck is also playing in them as well and honestly I'm not as excited for them as I was (I'm still going to watch it). What they had going on in GAP should've stayed there, it's weird to me that two people are doing numerous projects together without experiencing other opportunities for growth. I just think it'll get too repetitive and it takes away the spice. Also, it stops both actors from growing and experiencing the methods and perspectives of other actors. There's a whole diversity aspect they're missing out on, and I just think it's unfortunate.

[@hi7736]

I get you girl. I started to fall out of interest for the Thai bl “2gether” because DAMN the fandom is so TOXIC. “Bightwin” this “brightwin” that and it’s a vid of Bright dancing with a girl (she’s a lesbian too btw). They send hate to the fl on Win’s new project (2 or 3 years ago). And they are SOOOO annoying.

[@amberhorizons08]

Agreed. I'm a Thai myself and this was wild to see unfold. I can underestimate some of the sentiment from viewers and fans but, wow, the hate kinda turned me off from the Thai GL drama community in general. In fact I don't think I've watched any other GL after GAP the Series T^T

[@skibidi.jonghyun]

kpop stans believing that their favorite ship is real will always be something funny to me btw i love u emily

[@vent_here_lovely]

Same😭

[@doxhansee]

it’s kinda unsettling as well 😭

[@vent_here_lovely]

@@doxhansee fr😭

[@s4dm3t4l]

moonsun is real🥺

[@alishypoo]

**ahem** minsung shippers

[@GoodMorningPunPun147]

when talking about the same sex shipping of idols, you should also mention young members at 15 starting to be shipped with the older members who are 20. It's so normalised and people literally recognise them as a couple. eg. enhypen niki and older members

[@Rerizz]

People shipping niki with other members always made me so uncomfortable, im glad to see someone also not okay with it because no one says anything abt it

[@BELIEVER78989]

Niki gets shipped with the entire kpop industry, the kid got heavily sexualized by fans from such a young age, its disgusting💀

[@valorie444]

@@BELIEVER78989 they think just because he looks older for his age they think it’s justifiable like bro come on he just turned 18 recently

[@BELIEVER78989]

@@valorie444 i think there is definitely a double standard among kpop stans for male and female idols, for ex- they wouldn't sexualize someone like Eunchae and New Jeans girls who are Ni-ki's age but they have no problem sexualizing Niki who is still a teenager🤷‍♀️

[@kalkxx]

thats also why its so scary to me how young idols are starting to debut now. like idols are constantly sexualized, shipped, etc. and as more and more minors are debuting its becoming more normalized to do/say these things about literal CHILDREN. maybe it’ll somehow get better in the future but sadly i dont rlly see that happening any time soon :(

[@taylormaranda2620]

the part about fans genuinely flirting with idols and not respecting their boundaries and whatnot makes me remember that creepy felix fan call. anyone could tell that he was so uncomfortable but she just kept going

[@AS-2833]

Skz felix? Which one?

[@aveea_]

@@AS-2833they made him act like a cat lol it was traumatizing

[@aveea_]

and the vernon one 😀

[@AS-2833]

@@aveea_ Wtf? These people should srsly not be allowed to interact with idols or atleast the idols should be allowed to report or ban them or something.🤦‍♀️

[@Hanabi_Han]

Most people found it funny but I just found it so creepy and unlaughable

[@bowie_enthusiast]

just makes me so deeply uncomfortable when a LITERAL 15 year old girl is speaking and they include a close up of her ass being barely covered by her school skirt (cough cough kakeguri). The sexualisation of teen girls in anime is just ugh it literally ruins sm things for me :(

[@aneesaa00]

LITERALLYY kakegurui was such a cool concept but literally all the female characters were so sexualised

[@ninjakiwigames5418]

Fr. I love Kakeguri, but come on. Their fan service is really unnecessary.

[@varena04]

to be fair, the whole anime is about yumeko who literally has a gambling fetish, so a little ass shot in the midst of that isn't much lmao

[@bowie_enthusiast]

@@varena04 i don’t only mean kakeguri lol but don’t u think it’s an issue for a teenage girl to be portrayed having a gambling f*tish at all??

[@varena04]

@@bowie_enthusiast no, absolutely! sorry, i misinterpreted and thought you were a kakegurui fan who was just nitpicking on the skirt shots specifically for some reason :U

[@thoralgk]

god the freenbecky situation was just so insane, the way some 'fans' acted like they were personally betrayed, like they had some entitlement to their relationship was just... insane

[@nanonclaire]

NO FR and its the same with "bl" couples too...like with ohmnanon..

[@yoojeebee]

yes it genuinely was crazy .

[@MarcelineTheVampQ]

Yup it was hell on earth 💀 even now there are some people who ship them as a joke or whatever 😭

[@cristianbarbala885]

Ahh... you can not understand right? IF they do just a little promition like only for the duration of the series then it's ok (they do certian things for the fanservice that you can't never imagine) but they continue to flirting even if the series end because at some point of they carrier they become sing idols and if you don't know freen and becky actually DO IT the things that this amazing youtuber (hiliariusy) listed in the final little scene but don't worry about freen because her (new) boyfriend is getting ALL the hate. P.S freen and becky for the fanservice they go to PRIDE events making a LOT OF FANSERVICE but the peoples who pay for that have the most wrong

[@DemiSuaton]

@@nanonclaireI wanna make a wholesome show that doesn’t need fanservice to make money, I want to make a show about two guys that get married and have a relatable and realistic story line. But uhhh that doesn’t seem to be the case for mostly EVERYTHING.

[@vaneabarca]

fanservice in real life disturbs me at times because it has real life consequences, like this kind of mentality in kpop is what caused that when Chen got married and became a dad some people tried to kick him out of Exo and years later they keep not supporting him just because he created a family 🧍‍♂️ like he did nothing bad wth

[@K75691]

I will never understand what makes kpop fans think they are entitled to an idol’s life.

[@dimpssss]

Real

[@gaonly]

the fact that the industry makes this happen! numerous live streams, videos, interactions where they make you feel like you're a part of that person's life. we see them crying on screen, sweating, getting stressed, smiling, and the conclusion of all this is that we think it's okay to meddle in that person's life. after all, we're almost like a family, aren't we? in summary: it's precisely the goal of companies and the industry. almost everything in k-pop is planned, don't be fooled! ⌒(≧▽​° ) ♥︎

[@Hellokitty_391]

The company is who to blame

[@bluebutterfly5062]

Some of it is the culture too. Many east Asian cultures are collectivist, which can have many positives, but one of the negatives is that you basically sacrifice yourself for the group. So many fans in Korea really do believe the idols "owe" them-- not just because they are famous because of their fans-- but because you're not doing this for you, you're doing it for everyone else

[@RandomLyneysimp]

It irks me so much, because it further inforces that "women are sex toys". It has disgusting undertones when you really think about it. If its used for both genders, and sparingly, or just mildly mentioned in a funny or subtle ways? Sure, fine. But just for women, and excessively? Its just messed up

[@TinTin_10]

​@ville__ everyone has pronouns dipshit

[@Gabry4777]

​@ville__darling. Give up, if you like seeing minors in sexual situations, get help.

[@RandomLyneysimp]

@ville__ ???

[@atom8o]

@ville__what are you even saying here please be trolling

[@chewyparfait]

​@ville__and you're a waste of oxygen. Hope that helps! ^^

[@sukanasuke88]

I used to not notice fanservice as a teenager. But recently when I tried to watch hell's paradise I just couldn't bear it. It just.. made me cringe so hard that I couldn't take that anime seriously

[@zshrooomz]

Exactly- I used to watch hells paradise and it made me so uneasy-

[@trombonedude5312]

That's strange because it seemed to me like the fan service in hell's paradise wasn't as egregious as some other anime in the genre

[@shumerman4516]

Tf. Fan service was very limited in hells paradise and most of nudity was not even fan service

[@sukanasuke88]

@@shumerman4516 I can't help you if you can't see it, sorry

[@sukanasuke88]

@@trombonedude5312 I haven't watched shonens for a while. I'm not going to argue that other similar animes are better or worse in this regard since I probably haven't watched them. But the stuff I saw in hell's paradise was way too cringy for my taste.

[@marinauder]

Gotta love JJK for doing fanservice with ADULT MEN!

[@maxiwaxipads]

Muscular Fred Jones is one step from making me watch

[@hiidenkiuas]

it's honestly depressing that the anime industry is at a point where you have to specify that the fanservice is with adults and not children

[@marinauder]

@@maxiwaxipads not the muscular Fred Jones 😭😭😭

[@weirdliamm]

FR LMAOOOOOO

[@bababooey7418]

RIGHTTTTTT Like male anime fans be getting mad that were liking it like bro at least we like grown ass men and not literal children 💀💀💀💀

[@StarPlatinum7912]

This is why jojo’s bizarre adventure is wonderful. We got an entire episode of the characters eating Italian food.

[@lasttimeimaskingyouthis]

Are you really joking or did you forget about the initial seasons were Joseph's mother and Anne in Stardust Crusaders were literally used as fanservice???

[@GregorSamsaTheBug]

and the girls are usually biologically possible of having functional organs :) and we have Buffy, masculine and speedwagon too

[@Jailmatejailbreak7]

​@@lasttimeimaskingyouthis Uh, if you think Anne was used as fan service your a bit weird. Since Anne is UNDERAGE

[@lasttimeimaskingyouthis]

Because she was indeed used??? Why the fuck am I weird?? I remember watching it and very vividly remember the comments talking weirdly about her. Funny how you assumed I was the one who sexualised a minor character when I was talking about how her being shown naked in an episode entertained weird reactions from men

[@lasttimeimaskingyouthis]

There was literally no reason in the anime for the shower scene with the gorilla with a 13 year old character but sure defend it I guess

[@waywarddaughter]

BL fanservice is really uncomfortable to watch, for me at least. And I think what makes it even worse when it comes to acting on screen and off screen is that these couples, when they gain enough traction, have to stay as that specific couple for a really long time. Like, you can't cast them separately - every following project will have to be these two guys as a couple in the show. They will gain their own fans, have their own couple events, couple merch... it's a whole thing. And if one of the two dares to step out to try something new or whatever, all hell breaks lose and the other party may very well be out of a job because their whole income was literally their couple aesthetic. It's wild. 😮‍💨

[@Jeetaruey]

Similar things can happen in western fandoms like with what happened to Kit Connor and forcing him to come out because he had a girlfriend and people were so upset he was not actually dating his costar. It's not as bad, but that doesn't make it okay. Actors are entilted to their private lives and don't need to say their sexuality. A lot of them are very young and still figuring themselves out.

[@PoopyPolice]

This is the first thing that came to my mind fr

[@BELIEVER78989]

Poor Kit, I will never forgive those people for making him come out when he wasn't even ready, he's just a kid people need to leave him tf alone😤

[@brennathecatlover4360]

I don’t think he ever said he was in a relationship just that he’s bi

[@anarecinos1590]

I actually agree Emily with the fact that the BL/GL Thai actors might catch feelings on each other. Cause it happens with straight couples all the time. Adding fanservice into the mix to me would cause more confusion for the actors. Hell sometimes I'm confused how the actors draw boundaries and stay "professional" together and apart.

[@BELIEVER78989]

This is one of the reasons I could never become an actor, I would be catching feelings left and right lmao😭🤣

[@dubuling923]

@@BELIEVER78989 same here lol 😂😭

[@BebobopapGUM]

This reminds me of 2 actors from a Taiwanese bl where they are actually dating irl

[@formlessdivinity]

so as an actor I can tell you the reason most people start dating is because they’re spending so much time together behind the scenes and not because of the scenes themselves! There is nothing arousing or intimate about intimacy scenes because they’re choreographed and rehearsed to DEATH and you’re also doing it in front of soooooo many people

[@JosieBean.]

😂😂

[@praevidens]

The BL and GL section of the video reminds me of what happened in the Heartstopper community. While unrelated, because there's not really any off-shoot fanservice for the show, a LOT of fans bullied Kit Connor, the actor for Nick Nelson (Main character's love interest) into coming out as bi because they think he was just "queer baiting" even though he portrayed a BISEXUAL CHARACTER in the show. Mind you, Nick in the show and comics was a guy who seemed 100% straight but was actually just having trouble figuring out his sexuality, teaching viewers not to look at people's surface level because it so often does not portray who they are on the inside. Kit was being bullied because he posted videos of him having fun with his best friend, who happened to be a girl. They harrassed and bullied him so much that he had to come out as bisexual so people would stop hounding him about how he's a queer baiter. It's like they FORGOT bisexual people exist in real life. I'm still so livid about how entitled and chronically online fans get because they think these actors arent real people for some reason.

[@praevidens]

sorry if the english doesnt make sense, i am pissed and its not my 1st language lol

[@ragmamale4783]

Im shocked and appalled....

[@praevidens]

@@ragmamale4783 the whole situation pisses me off every time I remember it. I just hope Kit is much happier without Twitter

[@JosieBean.]

Godforbid BL and GL actors are mainlt straight😱

[@Hatchoun_777]

Sa m’énerve les gens qui font pas la différence entre l’acteur et la personne, c’est pas parce qu’il joue un rôle gay qu’il est forcément gay dans la vrai vie.

[@crash6951]

Women believing their favorite K-pop star actually loves her is the same thing as men believing the stripper actually loves him. Edit: cause some of y'all are apparently chronically online and have never touched grass, not only women are fans of K-pop, and not only men visit strip clubs. However, the vast majority of both respective demographics are as I initially stated.

[@yoojeebee]

most of those idols being misogynistic too like im sorry but they do not gaf about you 😭😭

[@Ca11MeMayb3]

​@@yoojeebeedon't you mean homophobic??

[@yoojeebee]

@@Ca11MeMayb3 well they probably are but idk what that has to do with this ? i am very obviously talking about m*le idols and female fans 🙏

[@shuporangporanglinoss..]

fr like they only love them as their fans (most ig) but ppl who think that they ove them in a romantic way are just stupid and delusional

[@i.microwaved.a.vending.machine]

​@@yoojeebee why did you censor male idols bro 😑😭

[@owenhuyge]

Have you ever watched Perfect Blue? Its about a J-pop idol whose mental health deteriorates when she makes a decision that upsets one of her dangerously obsessed fans. The film has some very problematic sexual violence and questionable female motives but overall I'd say its got great parasocial internet commentary that was ahead of its time. I think you would find it very interesting if you haven't seen it already.

[@yamiavatar2662]

Yes I agree, but it was J-Pop

[@owenhuyge]

my mistake thank you@@yamiavatar2662

[@chuuria]

i honestly didn’t of think the sexual violence scenes as remotely problematic. it wasn’t glamorized or made to be seen as attractive in any way, but rather shown for how disturbing and traumatizing they were

[@owenhuyge]

I don't personally see the need for explicit sexual violence, especially graphic rape scenes, in any film or show. We should not need to see the crime to empathize with the victim. The animator of that scene (who was a man) was directly quoted saying that he had a bit too much fun animating it. Its nothing that genuinely great writing can't get around.@@chuuria

[@Erica-nf2tj]

For anyone still on the fense about seeing it because of the "sexual violence", they are referring to a scene where the Jpop idol-turned-actress is having to repeatedly do retakes of a rape scene in a film. It isnt glorified or sexy and there is no actual sex. The male actor even apologizes and acknowledges how fucked up it is but Perfect Blue is an amazing commentary about women in the entertainment industry. The movie is a masterpiece and one of the best psyche horrors I've ever seen.

[@denizkaragullu6239]

Omg you are the only person I've seen to talk about the Thai GL/BL industry. I love BL mangas so I ate the dramas up! But it was so weird interacting with the fans who actually believed the actors were a couple. Even the most level-headed fans sometimes give into their delusions because the act is so convincing. I remember Ohm and Nanon from Bad Buddy, a highly liked bl show, fought irl and people tried to come up with excuses? Some even acted like they broke up lol

[@denizkaragullu6239]

@mandarinablue8438 Yes, I really liked their dynamic as well. I don't let it spoil my fun when I am rewatching Bad Buddy. That series is just SO good!

[@JosieBean.]

I was delusional when I first started watching BL at 16 but now I'm 18 I realise its fan service and its fake. I don't follow the BL couples or watch interviews either because personally its weird, because they are not acting anymore but being themselves outside of acting. People forget its not true. They need to separate these.

[@justafangay]

Ohmnanon's case is kinda special and heartbreaking because they were close friends even before the series so them being close itself wasn't the fanservice and not only did they stop being partners, they also looked really cold to each other... I think that's what made most of the fans upset, you know? seeing their friendship broken :l but ofc there are delusional ppl too which we are all aware of

[@pinkdragon4830]

Emily has more chemistry with herself than me with any person I ever liked

[@5_roseees]

1:46 had me dying when she said “without her gelatinous honah hunga bouncing like there bunnies at an agility competition” 😭😭😭

[@moshroomm]

The ridiculous descriptions of boobs always knocks me out💀😭

[@PowerSpirit50]

​@@moshroomm Them knockers be swinging

[@danrimo826]

One of the grossest things about fanservice (and it's ALL gross) is how so many fans feel entitled to it

[@christine3314]

‼️

[@AikiraBeats]

This part. I noticed this a lot with the FreenBecky and Lingorm. We get that they look good with each other, but we aren’t entitled to every aspect of their relationship.

[@ayo3181]

Bl sorta brain rotted the girls at my hs growing up cuz they be approaching me as a gay dude telling me who they'd pair me up with and asking what sexual acts I'd do to other guys in class

[@yoojeebee]

no girls who watch/read bl especially if its the only thing they like is so weird like no matter how much they wanna argue it is fetishizing .

[@ayo3181]

@@yoojeebee yeah I remember responding to someone who was over obsessive with bl that it made me a bit uncomfortable that they were treating me like that and they said I was being misogynistic

[@yoojeebee]

@@ayo3181 oh thats crazy i once told some girl that it was weird to only read bl and "not enjoy" straight fics or whatever but she was arguing with me that its not weird but like ?? i dont get it like if straights dont do it for u read gl or something idk

[@Dancinglemon]

No fr straight people can be so uncomfortable when they make shipping their whole personality.

[@pinkiepiespie]

It's the same as lesbian with men, they're so disgusting. :/ I could literally kiss my girlfriend and they will ask weird stuff or get turned on by it, like let us live.

[@rain9001]

That fanservice constant mindset is really reminding me of the victors in the Hunger Games, especially Finnick. Then Katniss & Peeta also having to continue a relationship for the sake of the public too

[@krisperz]

"slobber = chin goo" being the fandom name took me out

[@fifi1213]

WHY IS NO ELSE TALKING ABT THAT 😂 ACTUALLY ICONIC

[@thatonechingu8273]

Bruh 💀

[@septiceye_3706]

Emily's skits are just always drawing me in so much that I'm often very upset that they're so short. Emily, you're just born for the big screen, may your acting career take off soon.

[@notevenemily]

thank you so much 🥹🫶🏼

[@another.unperson_119]

so true, I've only started watching her videos since, like, a week ago and I feel like she is REALLY good at those skits, I found myself more than once surprised when the skit ended because I felt like when u watch a movie and it got cut all of the sudden, when in reality the video just continued normally

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

YES EXACTLY. i was thinking she’s going to be in huff films one day.

[@bryson0206]

Tha wha I've been saying a lot these days having subscribed to her long ago but binging her videos nonstop lately (I'm a guy in context her audience is mainly females) I'm shocked by her acting bruh it's the most good one ever seen in whole KZbin bruh like i get sooooo invested in bruh it's crazy

[@maliksmith9003]

Real ones remember the ultimate display of fanservice: when the artists would lovingly animate all 200 spikes of hair in Goku's SSJ3 transformations.

[@shappy.b.o.t.s4508]

Absofuckinglutely. Some fanservice can be fun. But I hate it when its overdone and unnecessarily sexual. It bothers me to no end.

[@Sofiaode18]

What matters is character agency. Nobody has a problem with skimpy outfits but when other characters and the camera starts treating them like sex objects then it becomes a problem.

[@hiii-i]

I think fan service isn’t always bad. Like characters being attractive isn’t bad. I just hate the ridiculous moments that make watching so annoying + jarring. Btw when ppl say fan service yes they mean over-sexualization, but a character having their abs shown/looking attractive is by definition fan service. They are making the characters attractive so they’ll be popular.

[@someone4585]

It mainly just when they’re sexualizing underage characters

[@hiii-i]

@@someone4585 exactly

[@TenderNoodle]

Character being attractive ≠ fan service. Fan service is specific to how the character is shown or treated by show for the sake of viewers pleasure. A character that is attractive and a heavily sexualized character are two very different things.

[@kayissaa]

@@TenderNoodleI was thinking the same thing. Good explanation

[@abitsourrrrsorry4885]

Attractive characters had nothing to do with fanservice lol why do people always say this? Literally missed the point the entire time

[@freshavocado5273]

That last skit though. It made think lots of actors/actresses might have developed a one-sided crush with their co stars and it made me sad a little bit.

[@jebipop]

as someone who IS and has been a consumer of thai bl & gl for a couple of years now, i know how intense some of the fans can be. when the actors get repaired with a new co-star for a different series ESPECIALLY in bls when actors get repaired with girls, the fan reaction is genuinely kinda scary. they take these ships so seriously when it's not meant to be anything more than a playful game between fans and the actors... i feel like they miss the part where they're, you know, ACTORS. who are ACTING. ACTING and playing up flirtatious characters to draw attention to their ROMANCE drama so that they can make money. most, not all but most, of these actors are straight any way. it's never that serious.

[@Catsaremylove1201]

​@ville__ tf? no i was born gay lol

[@AnimeOjou]

@@Catsaremylove1201 I think they're just some weird homophobic bot, seen them all over these comments.

[@HanaHayashi6374]

@@AnimeOjou Yeah, bro is everywhere 💀

[@stork2230]

esp relevant with the recent “break-up” of ohm and nanon (who themselves have said that they didn’t want to continue) and the fact that delusional “fans” started harassing lehm and sending trucks etc, also correct me if i’m wrong but the only big series ohm and nanon did together was bad buddy

[@jebipop]

@@stork2230 no you're right. i don't at all get why people are taking it so seriously when the ONLY series they did was bad buddy 2 years ago apart from maybe some cameos and support roles in vice versa. they've barely interacted all year and it was becoming increasingly evident that they didn't wanna work together anymore because they were infact working and doing a job which i think people are missing

[@eliath5215]

two actors having to perform fan service, one of them falling for the other would make a really good fanfic i’m not even gonna lie

[@YORUAGERU]

As a Thai person watching GL and BL I agree with ur pov, I’m not surprised if actors do fall for each other and become more closer than the show itself

[@mxvega1097]

I see a creepy side to it. For the actors/singers it's potentially oppressive and exploitative, and for the fans it feeds unhealthy parasocial tendencies and stalkery behavior. I see fans behaving really selfishly at concerts, like it's just for them (them alone) and not sharing the experience, like ... Mitski fans, they're pretty self-absorbed, and they can get really hostile when they think they've been scorned.

[@Anindeterminateamountofbees]

Is that a thing with Mitski’s fans??? I love her music and consider myself a fan of her, but I’m not super connected with the fandom and Ik she’s kinda private and doesn’t like to talk about her personal life a lot

[@nookiepookiedookieWHAT]

​@@Anindeterminateamountofbees dear God I'm not even a fan of mitski at all but holy shit her fans are the most psychotic, batshit insane fans, they're truly sick creatures

[@oracl3ofdelphi]

@@Anindeterminateamountofbeesyea in 2020-2022 her fans on TikTok were insufferable, and I say that as a fan. A lot of her songs got popular on TikTok and only for a few lyrics, then when people showed up to her concerts they were only able to sing a few lines (also happened to Steve Lacy) and also Mitski has rules for her concerts, like not to use your phone too much so the fans can be in the moment and a lot of the TikTok fans ignored that rule and kept recording.

[@LucianSorelsGardenOfAzaleas]

​@@Anindeterminateamountofbees her fans are a part of the reason why she's so private, she used to not be so private but some people can't just take what they get and they crossed her boundaries.

[@urinlovewithmii]

fanservice makes my blood curdle, my eyes fall out, steam come out of me ears, makes my teeth grit, and makes my flesh start to slowly eat away at itself edit : bye cs why r some of yall hating 😭i said this nd the world kept turning, trust, its okay .

[@simpIyes]

The way you described it is so accurate 😭😭

[@yoojeebee]

valid

[@staryyvs]

REAL ‼️

[@katieskittens2]

so petite🥰🥰

[@adorrredv]

this is so real 😭

[@junipudding]

Fan service is good when people set boundaries between the thin line of idols-fan relationship and parasocial relationship. Ofc it feels so good that an idol loves and adores us but when fans think its more than pure love but romantic love, it'll have drawbacks in fans' long-term mindset

[@danibelle0075]

I've dropped so many anime, manga, etc. bc of excessive fanservice. Especially when they sexualize minors: "well she looks like a child but she's actually 900 years old"☝️🤓 bs. It ranges from annoying to just vulgar and criminal. A little bit is whatever, but I can't stand shows that constantly shove it in your face or interrupt the story line for nudity. Also, rewatching certain animes as I got older just isn't the same.

[@HanaHayashi6374]

Ughhhh, exactly! I tried rewatching Ranma 1/2 since I never finished it and just couldn't get through it anymore :/

[@inazuma2332]

Same, tried reading doraemon comics aain only to realize nobita and doraemon (who is considered the older brother/possibly adult mentor for nobita) constantly sexualize and harass shizuka. Theyre both 9-10. Literally confirmed in several comics they are in 6th grade. Ew.

[@saturnmercury8533]

Or the MOST USED excuse. "IT'S JUST ART, GROW UP" like stfu... CP IS A DAMN CP NO MATTER WHAT.

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

BRO FR 😭😭 In sailor Moon, chibi-usagi is canonically 900yrs old but acts and looks like a child. The show even makes it clear she isn't mature. It's crazy how people sexualize her 😭😭

[@moshroomm]

Why do they even have characters like that 💀 just make her look decently mature or make her look her age goddamn

[@mangarda]

Another thing I notice about kpop fans is that they sometimes treat their idols like they’re their kids at a spelling bee. The comments on their vids will be like “ohhh my sweet baby hyunjin, you did well baby, stay healthy and get plenty of sleep!” Even though these idols are usually like in their 20s lol. It’s a bit odd. Also it’s worth noting that most K-pop idols are actually contractually forbidden from having romantic relationships, so when they’re asked about it in interviews and say “my fans are my boyfriend” it’s not only fanservice but is also their way of deflecting that issue.

[@yoojeebee]

no youre so right like have u seen bts stans its literally INSANE

[@joeysoftpaws]

the infantilization is craaaazy

[@radsiick]

skz mentioned 🤭🤭🤭🔥🔥 anyways yeah i agree as a stan i literally hate that too it’s so cringy and it’s either 10 year olds or 40 year olds saying that. almost no in between

[@yoojeebee]

@ville__ GET A JOB im peeing this is the 2nd comment ive seen u copy and its MY COMMENT HELP

[@yoojeebee]

@@BELIEVER78989 every bg stan but i wanted to mention bts stans specifically

[@strawberry_skiess]

critical thinking in the kpop community is almost non-existent, so i just want to thank you 🤝

[@soph13s]

oooo this is a can of worms. so my favorite k-pop group is WJSN, and one of the members Luda is known specifically for not playing along with fanservice requests from men. (there's probably other idols that do this!) but as a consequence that sort of cold/"tsundere" way of answering male fans became a different version of fanservice - a lot of men liked her more because of it! and there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an interesting example of how *every* interaction is fanservice, whether it's the typical/expected version or not. anyway long paragraph aside i find this topic really interesting especially not knowing much about the Thai BL/GL scene! there's def a lot to get into with fanservice as a whole wrt sexuality, racial fetishization, infantilization of women....

[@angel127_]

OMG i rarely see wjsn fans yayyy

[@abbyb6431]

interesting, I didn’t know that about Luda. also hi fellow Ujung!

[@soph13s]

@@angel127_HIIII

[@soph13s]

@@abbyb6431hiiii!! yeah she usually turns down joke marriage proposals and things

[@its_me.6902]

I don't mind fan service that much unless it's overly excessive. I tried to like this one anime I began watching because I heard it was good, but it got to a point that whenever a female character appeared on screen, you knew she wouldn't stay fully clothed for more than 2 seconds no matter the situation 😭

[@Sevensimian]

Let me guess fire force? 😭

[@oraengae]

which one was it 😭

[@littlelady9801]

"Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down"

[@Moxy125]

@@Sevensimian this just gave me a flashback I didn't want 💀

[@xzyeagerist1673]

@@Sevensimian or probably fairytale ;_;

[@peculiaregbim4012]

I love LOVE your mini acting sessions 😂😂. Especially the last one about the gl actors. You are such a great actress 😂😂

[@MarcelineTheVampQ]

Yeah it was insane in fb fandom when ppl found out that one of the actresses had a boyfriend, like they'd make insane theories proving that the girl is actually single or she's actually in love with her coworker, they'd just refuse to believe that she's got someone in her life and that someone is NOT her coworker, heck even now i see people still shipping fb. Honestly I'd just say this whole thing of shipping real people needs to be stopped.

[@MarcelineTheVampQ]

@ville__ um no???

[@abitsourrrrsorry4885]

Lol this is why I avoid some queer women who believe in gaylor theory lmaao It's fascinating theory but pls for the love of god there are outed queer women musicians out there (arguably with better music than taylor) 😂

[@addy8078]

I immediately clicked when I saw Freen and Becky in the thumbnail because the shit that went down in the GAP fandom was wild! It’s one for the History and Sociology books 😳

[@someone2447]

Fan service and pedophilia are the things that made me quit watching anime for good

[@santerisnoodles]

there are still some good ones!

[@treesurgeon2441]

Fair enough. I still enjoy things in the medium but I can't disagree with this sentiment.

[@hadilbadi1737]

Because apparently all anime is shonen, ecchi and isekai😑

[@someone2447]

@@hadilbadi1737 don't pretend like those aren't the most popular and recommended lol

[@klsad]

​@@someone2447that's bs, ask any longtime anime fan what shows they recommend for people new to anime and the majority of them will recommend shows like steins gate, death note, hunter x hunter, AOT, FMAB, MP 100, OPM. Great shows that have little to none 'anime bullshit' (Also alot of them are more popular than the shitty fanservicy pedophilic shows you are talking about. All the shows i mentioned are extremely mainstream) I think you're just asking the wrong people for recommendation lol

[@inplane9970]

There are great ways of doing fanservice, like giving characters the spotlight in ways that makes sense for them narrative-wise. E.g. Showing Nanami in JJK being dead-serious and brutal towards anyone who hurts his friends. It's cool, it's fun, and it's character development because we get to see him do something productive. Unfortunately, a lot of fanservice ends up being tasteless and serves no purpose other than sexualizing the character. Questionable camera angles, characters being completely out of character, clear pandering to a certain crowd, and overall feels like filler. Sometimes it even takes a toll on character development because the writers can't be bothered to actually develop them outside of "This character has big assets, is ferally obsessed with MC and primarily speaks Moanese."

[@IshtarNike]

Moanese 😂😂😂

[@jang2386]

idk if this is fanservice or not but jjk s2 make yuki look hot asf without tiddie or azz shot. i might be weird but i like women who r handsome..we barely get that in anime, it doesnt serve anything but i just like how they did it in a diff way? i dont think its even fan service tho PFT

[@Notzay_01]

MOANESE 😂

[@mangarda]

The Thai bl/gl fanservice reminds me a lot of the “Loveteam” concept in Filipino dramas

[@anarecinos1590]

It's exactly the same actually (particularly for bl couples in GMMTV). Fans EXPECT them to stay together from now on. Which is 😐🤨

[@luisvidana5266]

@@anarecinos1590😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐

[@mangarda]

@@anarecinos1590 I always felt like Filipino loveteams were more like a contract with the studios - because once you were teamed up you would do basically all your movies together for a set period. But I’ve never actually been fooled into thinking they were really together lol. Maybe JaDine were dating in real life for a minute? But that’s the only one I can think of. But I’m also not in the Philippines so maybe the energy is different there

[@bubzee9177]

Loveteams in Philippines are either dating each other or just loveteams for the sake of fans and ratings. Loveteam fans here isnt that much of an issue. And most of the part, quite okay. The worst ive seen is the aldub fans. Some of these delulus personally attack and harass the irl boyfriend of the actress playing her part. It was a few years ago tho. What you have to watch out for are the problematic kpop stans here.

[@goldenbeauty4996]

What I hate about fanservice is how it denaturalize the way some people see relationships in general. Especially when we are talking about BL and GL actors. Some of the LGBT youth just want someone they can relate to. Or someone to look up to in terms of relationship goals . Unfortunately the facade of this industry is very confusing and fake most of the time. But it looks so real that many people come to support those pairings thinking it’s love etc . When it breaks it’s like heart breaks for the fans who supported them for so long too. We shouldn’t get too attached to actors and their ships but we shouldn’t let companies getting away with this hell either.

[@khloros.]

emily talking about gap the series was not something I expected, but it makes sense after that whole Freen scandal which she got a lot of unnecessary hate on .. i feel so bad for both freen and becky

[@loureedpipes]

​@ville__no being straight is a choice and freen and becky are proof. They're clearly in love but the industry is making them hide it (/j)

[@SirBanana1992]

I can tolerate some fanservice in anime in modesty, though most of the time I just really don't care for it but holy shit please leave the underage characters alone. Leave the children looking loli alone, don't give me that "she's 500 years old" BS. If she looks like a child then for all intents and purposes she is one and they're sexualizing a character with child features and it just makes me feel completely disgusted. Also uncomfortable incestuous cousins or when they try to play fanservice in a literal sexual assault scene, ffs there are lines to not cross!

[@HanaHayashi6374]

Vampire Knight, huh? 😭

[@SirBanana1992]

@@HanaHayashi6374 had to look it up, still no idea what that is like XD.

[@HanaHayashi6374]

@@SirBanana1992 Oh ok lol. Well basically, there's a canonically romantic pairing of two, biological siblings 💀

[@SirBanana1992]

@@HanaHayashi6374 thank you, I hate it, lol.

[@HanaHayashi6374]

@@SirBanana1992 Same here, Sir Banana 😂😭

[@f5321]

This is why I love Jinsoul (ex Loona member) Lol. She’s so quick to shut down any fan that tries to flirt with her or pretend like they’re her friend.

[@adrianamulet4144]

Emily: I don't think many creators make something and they're like wow, this really sucks and I can't wait to piss everyone off with this one. Writers killing everybody's favorite character for no reason at all: ah

[@Fantomstranger]

current spiderman writers be like : let me introduce myself

[@HanaHayashi6374]

Velma

[@grlsonfilm]

gege

[@chiaborealis]

asagiri and gege

[@introvertedpieceofcrap2626]

As someone who watches a lot of anime and reaction mashups, these male anime fans don't even need fanservice to heavily sexualize a underage character. They literally just sexualize them for no reason, even when they are not wearing revealing clothing, even if there wasn't a full on boob or butt shot, even when they are literally doing nothing. For example, I remember watching a reaction mashup of the fight between uraraka and bakugo. When one of the guys straight up just says out of nowhere something about urakaka having a big ass. Or that time when Maki was just sitting crossed legged in the movie when you can hear some of the guys just saying "damn" or somewhere along those lines (don't even get me started with the splits scene). The disappointment evident in some of the guy's voices when kuroi wasn't wearing a revealing bikini (this one I didn't find it at all bad or wrong but I just added it to hear some opinions). But yeah, that is all I can think of or remember for now.

[@introvertedpieceofcrap2626]

You know fanservice is bad when someone thought nobara was about to "put her titties out" when she reached into her jacket for her hammer.

[@areeba7045]

this is completely true, i've noticed this too. it could just be because in general society teaches everyone that women are sexual objects and our bodies can only ever be sexual, but also the fact that anime pushes this to another level is also why they act like this. anime fans don't want to admit it but the fanservice of female characters will have adverse effects on them, whether they like to admit it or not. it doesn't help that a lot of the time the writing of those same female characters is bare bones and they don't contribute a whole lot to the story, so in a way their minds shift into thinking that any woman shown on screen should straight up be seen as sexual.

[@serenityssolace]

Classic teenage hormones. What do you expect?

[@serenityssolace]

​@@areeba7045 society doesn't teach women are sex objects. Nobody teaches that. It's just teenage hormones and the producers know that and what to sell to them

[@areeba7045]

@@serenityssolace "society doesn't teach women are sex objects. nobody teaches that"????? where the fuck have you been for the past millennium LMAOO

[@hippyhopohskippydop5792]

18:47 oh the fanfic writers just got the new idea

[@pinchetii6555]

Emily isn’t a waiter but she served 💅

[@The_Super_NOVA]

The heartbreak of watching Emily reject Emily. She would do anything for you! What's wrong with you, why can't you see that? Lol 😂

[@The_Super_NOVA]

@ville__ um uh yeah? Sorry did I say something wrong in my comment?

[@HanaHayashi6374]

@@The_Super_NOVA It's not you, it's some weird, h0mophobic bot

[@Yeobeen.lovingme]

Back when I was first getting into kpop, I thought idols within the same group getting shipped together by fans was platonic, I thought they were platonic... Keep in mind that I was a baby kpop stan and I didn't fully understand the concept of shipping either, it never struck me that people saw their bonds in a romantic sense! 😭😭

[@sokyu7723]

Emily you’re very humorous

[@adriegrace]

the last skit was too real LOL 😭 emily’s acting is so slay 🫶🏻

[@ravencce]

i clicked so fast seeing freenbecky in the thumbnail the parasocialism from fans because of their fanservice is INSANE and i havent heard people properly address ts

[@Alicest.]

That last sketch was too well done. My heart is broken, please fanservice me up and fix it. Those imaginary moments you mentioned can't have been fake, I still ship Araya Chen and Noi Chanthara. I will buy as many albums as it takes to make it happen.

[@VideosForYou90]

tbh i was super pissed off and disgusted by the "fanservice" when i tried to watch anime cause i thought i'd may like it as a genre. often the storylines were quite interesting and then suddenly there were tons of under the skirt or cleavage shots. and i thought umm sir THESE ARE HIGHSCHOOLERS... i'm fvcking furious about girls and women being se*ualized EVERYWHERE in this stupid society. it just feels so degrading. i'm kinda sad that i can't watch anime because of this cause i often really adored the fashion or the design of the series and the storylines as well. but no, i don't want to get angry everytime or support that.

[@playdoh658]

Anime isn’t a genre it’s literally just cartoons (a medium) but japanese. Shounen (boys), shoujo (girls), seinen (men) and josei (women) are also not genres they are demographics. All types of genres exist within these demographics. If you don’t like fanservice there are ton of animes that have minimal to none of that. I recommend mob psycho 100 if you haven’t watched it, it’s a shounen with no fanservice. I also recommend you dabble into shoujo and josei (again it’s a demographics not a genre since there’s a misconception that it’s all romance which it is not.) some have fanservice aimed for women and a lot don’t have it. If you want you can visit colleens manga recs, she has a lot of good shoujo recommendations. People that complain abt fanservice in anime usually only consume shounen/seinen (which are targeted to men. There’s still a lot of em that don’t have any ofc) so u should giving shoujo and josei a try if you want ofc.

[@playdoh658]

I also recommend a sign of affection. It’s a new romance shoujo about a deaf girl!

[@dely5553]

i totally agree but i started researching animes w no fanservice!! pokemon is a great choice, princess tutu, and lots more actually!! its so hard cus it DOES feel degrading but dw, if ur willing to step back into anime then u can find lots of good ones without nasty plotlines or icky fanservice ❤

[@WifeofBlitzø]

You're probably watching the wrong genre, then.

[@glitch8505]

Please try watching Ghibli movies!!! they are absolutely adorable and beautiful + no fanservice

[@GeeApril92]

I’m so glad you’re talking about this. Totally a breath of fresh air.

[@sapphic_suffering]

I feel like fan service would actually come in the way of real feelings if they happen to exist. If I was dating somebody or had feelings for them and suddenly all these people started to put all this pressure on this relationship and it became my job, I would grow to not like that person anymore

[@blueyellowandgreen]

Glad I never cared when all my celebrity crushes had partners, I saved my delusion for my career aspirations 🙃

[@nookiepookiedookieWHAT]

wait people take celebrity crushes that seriously?? Am I missing something cus I don't really pay attention to that

[@cicidonuts2070]

​@@nookiepookiedookieWHAT Well yeah, it's especially prominent in Korea in the form of "sasaengs", and delusional people. There was this one incident where this Korean female celebrity got into a relationship with another male celebrity, and you what their fans did? They went outside the companies the celebrities are signed under in TRUCKS with a screen saying something like, "Is the love given by fans not enough? Apologise". What is even crazier the lady in the relationship HAD to apologize, and I think the guy even left his group because of that. It's Karina from Aespa, and Taemin from SHINee I think

[@anasappho]

emily has such good chemistry with herself lmao

[@ponkocrossing]

18:59 istg this is when i realized how good of an actress you are holy moly

[@ninomaeputanginanis-kfp]

This hits like a double whammy as both an anime fan and a GL fan. Like i understand there's a target audience for the fan service but keep It away from my anime. It totally takes me out. Fans being delulu with the actresses irl is also the reason why i don't associate myself with fandoms and don't interact with them. I felt so bad for Freen when It all went down

[@mx58n]

these skits got me crying😭😭😭😭keep em coming emie

[@DunmerSG]

"What if her mom's corpse had some tasteful cleavage" 😂😂😂

[@phantomeowz]

This is why I lovee jjk so much. It doesn't use unnecessary fanservice to make their characters likeable. nvm, they do it with the male characters. But at least they're all legal adults and likeable characters 🤷🏻‍♀

[@catloverandminionbeliever]

and when it comes to the male fanservice, they’re adults and they don’t have to be naked to make us go feral and stray further from gods light

[@phantomeowz]

@@catloverandminionbeliever FR!

[@hideakisorachi3953]

that one scene where nanamis pants are suddenly tight as hell and he looks ripped while he's pulling that dude by the hair 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@phantomeowz]

@@hideakisorachi3953 ong like where did the horse come from..

[@phantomeowz]

@@hideakisorachi3953 and the fact that mappa made mahito WAYYY more ripped than he is in the manga

[@yira3056]

Youre so right and i think it kinda ruined dramas especially bl ones cuz it made many fans think that dramas without skinship or kissing scene are not enjoyable, and i hate seeing fans complain "i was waiting for a kiss scene" what happened to the story?? Like yes kiss scenes are fine but watching just for that...

[@tiny._.sxnshine]

Oh yes I was at a VAV concert, the fanservice is absolutely BONKERS. one girl almost fainted because ace was like an inch away from her face

[@Siriwarbreakerskz]

You can't just jumpscare me with Chan like that 😔. Dude is veryy committed to feeding the delulu🤣🤣

[@angelazeng2985]

19:31 "OF COURSEeee GIRrrrLLL" is me in every situationship ever ty

[@cupp3453]

not even emily? more like not emily glowing brighter than the sun genuinely mean it in all honesty because you're actually glowing

[@marienafy]

w rizz

[@maytoutcourt5462]

YAYYY FINALLY I SWEAR NOTHING MAKES ME MORE HAPPY THAN EMILY'S VIDEOSSSS

[@Kuromiiiiiiiiiiii-n7s]

Fanservice is definitely taught to kpop idols and is pushed onto them for fans to feel like they are in a particular relationship with them. It’s quite disgusting, and fans become so delusional to the point where they actually believe they idol will literally marry them and be in a full time relationship with them. I feel like it’s too also keep their fans, because if they don’t keep up this ‘kpop idol persona’ fans will just leave them and not feel any single connection with them.

[@venus1856]

Lol I was dying at the ending skit because it's sooo true. Honestly the whole freenbecky situation was a hot mess. Things got so out of control and those girls didn't deserve any of it. They are still so young and probably still figuring things out. I will say in that situation the excessive fanservice caused so much harm. It's crazy that the industry tries to sale the fans a made up relationship even off screen. That's pretty extreme. I think you really have to have a good balance with fanservice no matter the media.

[@norielgames4765]

As a man, fanservice to me is a dealbreaker. As soon as there's any it becomes unwatchable for me, unless it's some kind of masterpiece. The reason for this is because I've always felt insulted by fanservice, as a man. Like, do they think we men are all thirsty losers who die to see that sort of stuff? Do they think we're so d*mb that having fanservice will make me want to watch a mediocre show? It's disrespectful and insulting. If you want me to watch your show make a good product, otherwise I'm off to watch some AoT and cry for hours.

[@diiwfiig]

❤❤❤ AOT for life

[@mich5131]

It’s kind of refreshing to read this

[@jk_ilyu]

18:01 when i tell you EVERY lgbt person has went through this EXACT situation with THESE EMOTIONS!!😭 you're an awesome actress (you probably experienced this too tbh though lol)

[@elementalsteve9029]

19:09 Ok hear me out!!!! This would an incredible plot for a show like I totally watch that! Like they were doing all for show and then they actually develop feelings!!!

[@user-qx2tp7nu1i]

No cuz why does Emily always have a good video? Like girl ur literally the best

[@cinthiasthinking]

20:15 she said she loves me! Omg I love you, too, Emily. We are engaged ❤

[@lxnx2976]

Fanservice can also be a really dangerous turn. Especially when Fans are not pleased with how the show is going. Sometimes they send literal death threats to the authors and actors and often authors give in and change the story to please the fans, even if authors and actors are uncomfortable with it.

[@Rchl444]

Fan service in K-pop can be the idol's fault sometimes too like if you constantly want to give your fans what they want you can't act surprised when SOME people think its true

[@ayanobadass949]

Facts