Let's talk about Jada, Will, August and MESS.

[@Akilahh]

Their relationship drama is outside my tax bracket but I live for the mess !!

[@Tan87ful]

Lol agreed

[@TruOmilade]

Relationship drama knows no boundaries as it relates to race, gender or financial income.

[@boababtree165]

Idk why everyone is feeling bad for Will, this man is out doing him too, his shit just hasn’t come out lmao

[@MinaaaBinaaa]

THANK YOU

[@brieoliver]

Exactly!!! What is this "poor Will" stuff? Even yesterday Jada said he already got her back. Will has been sowing his oats too lol

[@birdiewolf3497]

THANK YOU!!! He was in the streets too. I don't feel sorry for him.

[@escortmissions]

Open relationships have rules too. This might also be a time where they weren't open. We don't know what rules they have set up for their arrangement. So he has the right to be angry,

[@HypnoticHollywood]

Will created this situation by letting a smooth talking R&B dude get close to his wife and family...what was he thinking?

[@laughingshaman1]

I thought the Smiths handled this really brilliantly. They “spilled” their guts and then walked away together laughing. They managed their brand image and I’ve taken a lesson.

[@yayayou1696]

Nah,,,, Will sat there and let Jada "blow her brand"....she grossly failed in a "real life" situation and then laughed about it like it's "no big deal"...2020 KARMA ain't playing

[@NTIFAFA23]

Thank you are one of the few saying it. I checked every review about it and no one is seeing that it is all masquerade!!!!!!!! Masquerade.Ok. They have an open relationship. Will allowed August to date his wife according to August. Their side pieces August and Heidi de la Rosa are with them in vacations etc photos, Instagram,... are out there for 3 years now. We know that will have proved to us that he can cry on command multiple times. They were laughing at the end of their talk. Both Jada and Will are toxic and manipulative, they are in open relationship but they still have to control their side pieces in order to not to talk. So it requires a level of manipulation. All the blame is on Jada now, because August spoke and I think that Will is pissed off because, we have détails on their open relationship and side pieces. Maybe Jada did not master well the rules they set together especially trying to get their side pieces not to talk... Anyway, he knows his image is tarnished now. But he tried to play the victim, that 's why bothers me, (even though it is intentional) when you gave free reins to August.They are in open relationship with rules (from what I understand) but on the show, how they present themselves implies that they have an exclusive relationship and that one of them cheated emotionally and or physically. which then puts Jada as the devil. And we know if the roles were reversed. Everybody in the comments section will Ask Jada to forgive him and remain faithful. But Will is the men who is hurt (forced tears). Really? They said for many years now that they are not married, they are partners, they still love one another but not as before. Will offered this proposition of open relationship when they were at the point of divorce. Because he didn't want to divorce again. Now Will and Jada you have to face the consequences! But this red table table is pure cinema. I thought people will caught that. Most of the analysis I saw missed the mark, according to me. But I can say they are really a brand, and have master their communication as such. They gave the public what they wanted, Bravo for that!

[@Tan87ful]

Yep. I agree

[@Kk-fj5tn]

Soon to be trademarked as the Carter Model after Beyoncé and JayZ...

[@turnerpage1672]

Did everyone forget August said "with Will's permission". Will was embarrassed not hurt.

[@Taewills]

That’s kind of a he said /he said issue. At the time it may have seemed like Will didn’t or wouldn’t give a shit but clearly his ego was not impervious. It could’ve been what Jada told August to convince him it’d be fine or August’s perception of their relationship from the outside. The Smith’s are showing a united front and denying Will ever gave verbal permission for Aug to fuck his wife.

[@msbeautyboss3784]

Montae Williams The Smith’s never denied that Will gave his “blessing.” Jada was addressing what the media said “permission” August did not say permission, he said “blessings.” Jada cut off Will before he was able to answer. Jada did not say “yes or no” Jada said the “only person to give permission in this situation is myself.” She didn’t allow Will to answer. It’s possible Will & August had a sit down conversation because August was living in the house.

[@turnerpage1672]

@@msbeautyboss3784 Thanks for the clarification. Just making the point that he knew.

[@maeahem]

I think they don’t want to say their marriage is “open” because that will invite people to just be hitting on them. It’s a closed marriage that they open the gates to others at their discretion lol. I don’t believe Jada should have had a relationship with August as he was very emotionally, physically, and mentally unstable. She was his mentor and he fell in love with her as a person and idea. She decided to work on her marriage and cut him off at a vulnerable time. Plus he helped her go through her own personal ish as well. Surprising that she’s so bonded to Will and always hinting how they don’t understand each other still. But the public is judging her off this Tabletalk as going out the marriage when Will is doing so as well. They need to keep their “good black marriage” image. They’re actually good parents too. The children know what their parents are like from THE START. I don’t mind their ideals if it works for them. There are people in closed marriages that tolerate worse behaviour. But I don’t see what the general fuss is about UNLESS concerning August’s wellbeing.

[@TheMorganVEVO]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Mikesaidit]

Especially also when Jada is 20 years older than August. That "power dynamic" in that relationship is so unbalanced.

[@ElizabethHome153]

They actually did in the late 90's on Oprah show, I don't know why people suprise.

[@Myaccount923]

They are not good parents lol. They were selfish. Jaden and willow are very obviously screwed up

[@maeahem]

DisneyStarsTube I believe Jaden and Willow have issues like any offspring do. Parents never get it quite right all the time. But I’ve never heard anything really bad about them. They’re respectful, smart, and successful in their chosen paths especially as they’re still so young. Jaden is helping with water in Flint, Willow is an amazing creative. They aren’t falling drunk out of clubs or doped up. So they dress weird and have out there ideas. If that’s the worst thing about them, then I’d say they did a pretty good job.

[@TheSomethingnew1]

Jada has already said that no matter what, her and Will are staying married. She doesn't care what Will does as long as they remain "life partners" and under the same roof. I think this may have worked when they were younger but now it's starting to catch up.

[@LoveLiyah849]

Yep. Having relationships with others won't work. It will only lead to resentment, pain and bitterness.

[@liteflightify]

People can have whatever marriage they want to have. But it doesn’t seem as if there’s any real bond or investment there outside of money and defending public image. I just don’t get staying married when both partners have romantic, sexual, emotional longings elsewhere, where the romantic/sexual/emotional investment is mostly outside of marriage, where you prefer spending most of your time with someone else, giving persistent affections and support to someone else and building a relationship with someone else. To me, that’s not even an “open” or “poly” situation. That’s an arrangement. But I think at the end of the day, both Will and Jada are money and power obsessed megalomaniacs. Their image, ego and finances come way before all else.

[@TheSomethingnew1]

@@liteflightify Oh I agree, for them it's a money and power move. And I think they are more comfortable staying under one roof and doing family things together than divorcing and having to face the world as two individuals rather than a married couple. I think Will was more pissed that they had to explain themselves because Jada's situation got out of control. But deep down I think they have a solid arrangement and the marriage died a while ago. It sounds miserable honestly. But more people are in this same situation than we realize.

[@TheSomethingnew1]

@@LoveLiyah849 yes I have never heard of any open marriage success stories or even any polygamy success stories. In every situation someone is jealous or someone feels like they aren't getting enough. Jada said during this interview that she wanted to feel something.

[@MaRyaYTOfficial]

TheSomethingnew1 she wanted to feel something cuz she sad that they “over” at the time

[@florazul5240]

I get a good laugh when Kimberly tilts her head as she processes what someone is "trying to convey". Its hilarious

[@xojudo]

Same 😹

[@RinaUnderConstruction]

I came to the comments just to say this and I'm over 17 mins in.

[@xr2kid]

Such an academic thing to do lol

[@AM-AnitaM]

Lol she’s so cute.

[@22221mm]

"strategically vulnerable" YES.

[@starrarielle]

A few years ago I met a man who identifies as an addict. He wanted to latch on to me immediately and was extremely emotionally vulnerable. In that situation I had some perceived “power” because I recognized the lengths he was willing to go to obtain some type of relationship with me. I distanced myself and recommended resources to him. I can only imagine the increased disparity of that power dynamic in August and Jada’s situation. Sooooo many different power dynamics at play.

[@tkhachi]

We stan a responsible queen! 👏🏽👸🏾This kids, is how you do it. Just make sure you're in a safe space when dealing with situations like this.

[@Tan87ful]

Good point

[@zeetuslupeedus]

Kimberly, you look mad cute !!! I love your natural hair but babbbyyyyy!! Braids and locs are your look!!

[@tamramariejohnson9097]

Yes this is a "flattering" look for her

[@MK-hh1vo]

I prefer her with the natural pulled back fro, but I'm not a fan of "all that hair" on most people.

[@laexploradoraaaXD]

I don't think people understand that marriage, as an institution, has always been a business partnership. This isn't new, especially among rich, powerful, and influential people. Clearly they're good parents and care about each other, but love isn't forever and choosing to stay married, because they've been together for so long and their brand is them, as a couple, isn't inherently a bad thing. I was thinking about conscious uncoupling the whole time. I do feel Jada was trying to save face during the Red Table, I do feel she's responsible for what happened with August, and I'm not happy about the fact that he was in a vulnerable place and she took advantage, but if she had been with someone else, someone older, not as vulnerable, I wouldn't be upset.

[@Mariah203]

Such a good point about marriage traditionally being a business arrangement. I definitely forgot about that fact.

[@bobby12348]

That's the ones that lasts the longest. Sad to say.😂😊

[@TheVegasbabyg]

Agreed. Just the concept of dowries , engagement rings,etc. have been part of marriage traditions forever. Marriage also were considered alliances to gain more power (eg. any royal family). Great comment.

[@boparks3204]

Exactly!!!

[@thenubianreview]

I said this all the time and completely agree with you...

[@lj9352]

I’ll be honest: this situation hits a little too close to home for me. I’ve been in a predicament like this and I identify with August in a lot of ways. The fact that he still believes the that they were deeply in love is very telling of just how deeply seated the effects of that mess are. Jada’s role in the relationship might not have been predatory, but it was damn sure intentionally manipulative. At the time, August was not in any kind of position to decide whether he wanted to pursue a relationship with Jada. He was literally at rock bottom. Jada was hurt as well and allowed herself to attach to his trauma. She took on the role of a savior/healer (savior complex) to gain access to him for personal gratification, as she admitted (“It felt good to heal somebody,” “I just wanted to feel good.”) Granted, they’re both human, but Jada should have known better than that. And then for her to go on RTT and never acknowledge her errors sent me. She looked at a traumatized, broken, probably lost af man and hopped on the opportunity to take advantage of his vulnerability for validation. I acknowledge her humanity, but there’s no way to excuse that.

[@polisigh216]

She needed someone other than Will at the table with her to push her on the points you brought up.

[@mikaelaisraelsson119]

It seems like he was victimized in some way but doesn't realize it, men are never taught to see it that way. So all he has to reason why he's still so fucked up over it is that she was the love of of his, and she broke his heart, but when I hear him talk about it just seems a bit off. Like he's trying to process a lot more than just a bad breakup... The fact that she would even sleep with someone so dependent on her and her family is just... Creepy.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

@@mikaelaisraelsson119 this, thank you. We don't raise boys with the language to explain their victimisation, they don't have that narrative. All they are offered by society is a high five, you slept with a hot older woman, good for you! And they feel wrong and broken for not feeling that bit they don't know what else their options are on an emotional level. I am not OK with jada and the way they control this narrative.

[@annholl1603]

I do not want to be mean but, considering that most of the times man take advantage of women at several capacities, i do not care about August. Much less about the hunger for protecting men (not a boy) at the expenses of a women.

[@lj9352]

Ann Holl August is a man, yes. But at the time he was a traumatized, emotionally unstable man who was taken advantage of. Be clear: nobody deserves this shit, man or woman. It takes *years* to psychologically and emotionally break free from this kind of manipulation. I hear your frustration, but I hate that it’s caused for you to become so desensitized. This happens to [Black] women too often; this happened to August and it is just as disturbing. Two truths can exist in the same space without one being discredited.

[@RBP263]

Jada has mastered the art of deflecting, I 100% saw her deflecting while emphasizing on his vulnerability, People are yelling Will forced it out of her as if they didn't strategically moved in that manner.

[@laninfapimentel311]

True! She said that when she understood the problems of her marriage, AUGUST decided to cut all communications with her. It sounded so weird... she didn't say "I had a relationship with August, than went back to my husband". She used the language in a way that puts a lot of responsibility on August's shoulders, while stiil making her look simpathetic. A very smartt move, but also quite dirty

[@Tan87ful]

Agreed

[@roter13]

The only thing I saw were two very good actors giving the performances of their career.

[@Exoticbeauty015]

Yes

[@Bindi_Marc]

No shade, but Will and Jada are beginning to resemble Francis and Claire Underwood from the early episodes of House of Cards.

[@nombuso4162]

Yes definitely.

[@liteflightify]

They’ve always given me that vibe.

[@smilergal89]

Yes

[@taylorspastpresent1014]

Great analogy

[@ghettodreams4936]

Bindi Marc yes!!!! I'm watching the series now for the first time.

[@wondersdancing]

I think a core issue glazed over as well is Jada's love/sex addiction (she has defined it herself on previous Red Table Talks) and the haze of two addicts in "recovery" clinging to each other. Even in open relationship there are rules and to sleep with someone who had become an embedded part of your family is such a breach of trust that I don't know how they handle it.

[@smilergal89]

Hmmmm

[@ihlhuvvyhu11]

Yikes.

[@cicely2084]

She vaguely addressed her codependency.

[@iamlisaevans]

Exactly!! People think Jada was just a normal person who did this. She has just as many issues as August plus she and Will thought they were getting divorced. She was vulnerable as well! August saw that vulnerability just as she saw his.

[@taxytax9661]

Not laying it low and spreading it wide🤣🤣🤣🤣 ok Ms. Evelyn

[@yvvngmlaba]

I gagged 😂😂😂

[@resa31802]

Entanglement literally means a compromising romantic relationship. I mean in Jane Austen speak, but I understood what she meant.

[@wittykitti]

Exactly. I don't think she herself may have even considered it a "relationship" at the time given that she was still married and also knew full well what it would look like considering his age and "health" circumstances.

[@shaunicymuhammad]

Exactly. Iyanla has a whole video talking about the difference between "relationships" and "entanglements". I think Will just wanted Jada to make it clear for the average person what happened so that's why he corrected her so she could make it plain to people.

[@RNM-bu4rj]

Yes to Jane Austen!!!!Let me pick up pride and prejudice and read it again.

[@Tan87ful]

Yep lol

[@jamaniandjaquesps1389]

And the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor and Actress goes to???????????????????Will and Jada!!!!! So deep into character its almost believable

[@Isachanya]

JamaniandJaques Ps Almost but not quite 😉

[@lionkoo7949]

They were actin?

[@kiarawatts6829]

Will Smith went out there and said he is The Good Husband. If you've seen The Good Wife, you know what I mean...

[@RNM-bu4rj]

Yes I do!!!!Such a brilliant show!!

[@donnapug]

They are very media savvy and they definitely stay on code. People can say whatever they want, but this is how you do it!

[@Lydzist]

That last line was HELLA STAGED. 'bad marriage for life'?????? Oh pleaseeeee. That laugh at the end was definitely fake and forced...

[@liteflightify]

There was definitely some scripted sh*t there. I honestly don’t believe anything they say and present and haven’t for many years. But they’re grown, and it’s not our marriage. As long as they’re keeping it real with each other, not touching minors or indulging coherence of others it’s not our business. But Jada’s messy ass keeps making it our business.

[@laurenm392]

Exactly. It was bad acting

[@joeannchaney1219]

Thank you! This was completely fake,People believe anything.

[@TheMusicmakesmehigh]

Reminded me that Jada really hasn’t been in any films of note

[@smilergal89]

Okkkaaayyy

[@hillydilly474]

That’s how marriage should be. No one should know your marital issues but the therapist, the Pastor, or trusted elders in the family. No one else. They are public figures, so they don’t get that luxury. Keep people out your business y’all

[@AhhhsoNeo]

I’d love to see comments from folks who have been married for 25 years... or 20 years....

[@ClowneryAtItsFinest]

Your on the wrong channel. Kim’s audience is majority 20-35.

[@vanitysmirror]

I haven't been married for 20-25 years I've been married 14 years, but we've been together for 25 years all together. I will not judge this situation marriage is not an easy road at all. Yes breaks happen. whatever happens during a break is fair game. Things do become redundant folks do forget to appreciate their mate and yes sometimes people cheat. Ive never had an entanglement during a of break. I don't know if he did I never asked frankly I don't care. I'm 42.

[@emimiwimi]

@@vanitysmirror 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@praised1745]

They all cheat on each other

[@motorcitymangababe]

Also- 41:40 - just because someone doesnt see abuse as abuse dowsnt make it so. Both me and my mom thought her behavior towards me as a kid was acceptable at the time. Looking back we both agree it was toxic. Abuse can happen without either party understanding the damage being done. (In my moms case fatphobia was the biggest deal. Shaming her kid over weight was seen as a way to keep her from needing the medical care that obesity can cause and as a kid i would have agreed that that makes sense. As an adult i have a borderline eating disorder and huge issues with body image because i equate food with fat and getting fat as being worthy of shame. It wasnt intended as abuse and at the time i didnt accept it as such. It was still abuse. Sexual abuse is the same way.)

[@sbaxter3252]

Been there; people had to point out the abuse to me. Sending vibes to help with your food relationship ✨

[@carolinaangele7547]

The problem is not his age, the problem is that Jada took advantage of someone that was extremely vulnerable, needed help and was emotionally unstable. Jada presented herself as the savior and when her “ egoistic” needs were satisfied, she threw him away.

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

agreed, I think it’s more about how sick will and Jada both said he was when they met him. He was clearly vulnerable and Jada saying she likes helping people but she wanted to feel good..even if they were close in age that comment still seems icky to me.

[@laninfapimentel311]

It's easy to mistake gratitude for love when you are vulnerable. Jada was supposed to establish a boundary in that situation, but she was flattered by the young man's interest. It was nassissistic of her to have a relationship with him.

[@beautifulminded2577]

However, Jada was vulnerable too. They both were vulnerable and found healing within each other

[@bobby12348]

Child please he wanted her.

[@senoracheapee1864]

that's what cheaters do. Anyone who gets into a relationship with someone who is married, separated, or coupled takes that risk upfront

[@mseatapplesauce6199]

Society has to come to grips that although polyamory isn’t normalized, it still exists! 💙❤️🖤

[@lunarblake]

finally someone agrees

[@shardeabre]

“She didn’t do the readings” 🤣

[@DoraWinifred]

Not sure if I’m reaching but His eye looked red like he was crying. I personally could not have a relationship like theirs.

[@kennedytaylor4783]

You're not at all reaching. I'm a dude and I can tell you for certain that he was crying.

[@Exoticbeauty015]

Or he was acting. ...

[@TheSomethingnew1]

Will has had sidechicks. If he was crying it's probably because he was pissed that they had put their business out their publicly.

[@tomdailyii7918]

He's been looking like that for awhile during quarentine

[@LoveLiyah849]

Welp.... His fault. Ngl i think the "arrangement"/ "open' relationship was because he couldn't stop cheating and she couldn't deal with the lies and betrayal. The open relationship was only supposed to be one way... Jada was hurt, insecure and broken. Their relationship was done. She decided to do her thing. He got shook..... Lol

[@crazywoollady9325]

Holy crap I'm soooo glad you're talking about this! I was DYING to know your thoughts!

[@DSN430]

Your audience is just as smart and insightful as you and that made this so fun and natural. I hope you invite them into future lives more!

[@nanuhoneyluv]

The only thing is that I feel bad for August. In his interview he admitted that he was deeply in love and invested in that relationship. So much so that it changed how he sees life. He said it was mostly positive. But Jada admitted that it was to feel good about herself. Granted most people get into intimate relationships for selfish reasons. We're only looking out for ourselves. But the age gap is weird for people who forget that August was a grown man when they met. A consenting adult. Also I don't find will and Jada's marriage strange. We all get to define what marriage and relationships mean to us. We don't get to project out ideas of marriage onto others. If they decided to have a polyamorous marriage then that their perogative. Oh and they didn't make it our business, August was the "messy" one, not Will or Jada. Yo, and y'all assuming you know what August emotional and mental state was at the time of their relationship. He could've been just thinking of using the relationship to feel good as well.

[@wahoo4uva]

Yours is one of the most objective comments I’ve read here yet! And, any relatively healthy human uses a relationship to feel good or we would neither want, pursue, or be in them. It’s the unhealthiest of us who use relationships to feel BAD. And even then, it’s subconsciously doing so, we’re not aware of it.

[@lFrenzied]

Yeah, I agree with your comment.. Though I would add that there was a heavy imbalance and that is clear on how August processes the relationship and how Jada does and the fact she said they haven't spoken. I do think August was victimised. Though he was a consenting adult in age, mentally he was going through a lot which the Smiths acknowledged. Was it August's intention to get into a romantic relationship with Jada? She should take more responsibility for the role she played. Many victims do not see their abuse

[@nanuhoneyluv]

@@lFrenzied I'm going respond to you and the person above you. Alright, let us assume that at the time they were dating, he was vulnerable. Because we don't have a timeframe of when the intimate relationship started and ended. After watching and listening to August's interview, how do you come to the conclusion that he was a victim and Jada preyed or "groomed" him? I watched his interview and not once did he expressed what some people are projecting onto him and Jada. He is now in his late 20s, and he is able look back and reflect on the relationship. Not once did this man say any of those things that people saying. And he has all the facts! He has already spoken his truth. I rather take his truth than all the people who are speculating about his life when they don't even have all the facts. Also I don't see a villain and victim in this situation. I see two human beings who made some choices, some good and some that may not have been so good, but they learned from it. He even stated that he learned how to love a person in way he never thought was possible. You mentioned abuse?? That serious implication regarding their relationship.

[@wahoo4uva]

nanuhoneyluv you’re another voice of reason. folks are projecting all kinds of “stuff” onto this situation that might not have even been contributing factors to the outcome of the relationship or the continued fallout we’re seeing in the public now.

[@nca4794]

Thank you. I don't see him, Monica Lewinsky or anyone else who has an affair with a married person as a victim of anything.... Except maybe lust.

[@theryguyryan4143]

This one of the few times I disagree with Kim. If Jada were male, our community wouldn't be saying shit. Men do this all the time and it never gets talked about. Hell, Russell Simmons and Kimora are an example. Powerful men use their position to gain access to women all the time. Also, I'm not buying this August was so fragile angle. He's on social media right now throwing dirt on KeKe Palmers name for no reason too. He's using our community's hatred of Black women as a tool to boast his career and attempt to sell his new album.

[@srilakshmir5927]

What did he say about Keke Palmer?

[@uzo715]

THIS

[@barefootedbougie]

Yuuuup!

[@DSN430]

@@srilakshmir5927 Someone implied Keke and him were together, Keke clarified that they were never an item, he attacked her and used some super personal stuff about her mental health to insult her. It was very weird, he seemed like he was taking out his anger at Jada at the first person he could.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

Srilakshmi R Keke denied that she and August was a thing after some people asked about it and August basically blew up at her saying that Keke had no chance with him anyway and how Keke allegedly was so thirsty after him according to some friends. Messy.

[@markiab5817]

For me the age gap isn't the issue. It's the power dynamics. We dont have to gender flip for an example. If a female professor sleeps with an undergrad they are reprimanded and most likely fired. Regardless if the undergrad is 18 or 21.

[@125loopy]

She wasn't his professor. He was going through a lot and she was going through the end (what she thought) of her marriage. August had nothing bad to say about that relationship. He said he could die happy today.

[@lettea.437]

I dont get why a 21 year old man wont try to smash a 39 year old woman especially if she looks good. He was thinking with his penis. She did take advantage given the circunstances, but older women dont stop being sexual beings

[@thedissilent2548]

lette A. But would you say that if it was a gender flip, though? I’ve heard so many women call older men predatory for being with women 10+ years younger than them. So, which is it? Predatory or not? Or is that only determined by who the older gender is?

[@RNM-bu4rj]

I have no problems with the age gap.If one is old enough to sign up for the army,then they are old enough(though not emotionally) to do what they want.But she obviously took advantage of a vulnerable individual.Happens all the time,doesn’t make it right though.

[@0812820]

@Julia Mimi There is nothing emotionally vulnerable about Jada. She’s a manipulative narcissist who centers her feelings before anybody else’s.

[@goldburnm]

Thanks for this unexpected video Kim!

[@LoveNafi]

I just find it very interesting that so many people have so much critical analyses about a marriage that isn’t theirs. People struggling with anything that deviates from the little fairytale they have in their head. A marriage is an agreement. A contract. Will and Jada both acknowledged they knew what they signed up for. That’s their business. Yes they chose to share things with the world, but it’s because they making money of off it. Same way Jay and Bey did. People are stupid. People love villainizing black women. You can’t tell me both August and Will were completely oblivious to the whole “entanglement”. Please.

[@chazthomas123]

You have to love how everyone is concerned about Will and that Jada wronged him. There is no way Will was just sitting at home while Jada was with this man, he definitely had someone else and knew what was going on. And August may have been young but he was an adult and chose to get involved with a married woman so he learned an important life lesson.

[@wahoo4uva]

Yes! A voice of reason, finally!

[@wahoo4uva]

chazb 💯💯💯

[@boparks3204]

Exactly!!

[@jenareice1857]

I’m glad you made a video about this! I definitely believe that Jada made questionable and harmful decisions that ultimately hurt August and Will. She came off as trying to avoid taking responsibility and being nonchalant about the effects her choices and actions had on the people involved with her and around her. I basically got that she used August to feel good - someone who is hurting and looking for help. It’s just not right to me.

[@joeannchaney1219]

At all.The way that they laughed it off like it was nothing.Was hoping that Kim would be objective on this,but,alas,another Smith stan.

[@pterocardio]

I'm coming from the side of a polyamorous woman. Jada saying stuff that they can do whatever they want bc they trust each other and because they're a "grown" relationship feels extremely off. Having boundaries doesn't mean you don't trust your partner, and open relationships have boundaries too (a lot of times boundaries in open relationships are even better outlined than in monogamous ones because it can get sticky if they're not outlined well). I think when Jada was talking about it, she didn't acknowledge enough the effect of her actions to him. Only about how she was hurting at that time and co-dependent. If you parse the interview, she has the tendency to make a messy situation seem lighter than it is especially when she says "it was an entanglement" and she says she doesnt consider it a transgression when he said "i feel like im the husband coming to support you while you talk about your past transgressions." I think they need to address whatever unaddressed animosity Will has about it, because they definitely haven't worked through it enough despite how long it's been or how much they've gone through therapy. As someone who's been a slightly similar sticky situation, I feel for Will and I hope when they go to therapy, there can be more focus on how her actions have made him feel.

[@Na2Ocean]

It was 12 minutes of my life that I lost watching that RTT. Nothing was addressed in that video at all whatsoever. “IT wAS a HeALinG jOUrNeY fOR mE” 🙄 If I’m not mistaken, Kim has a video she made on people using others to heal! Jada lacked remorse and accountability, and used verbiage to reconstruct her situation.

[@Mariah203]

Yo when Kim said RTT is so basic that validated my feelings of the show. I watched one episode and realized Jada didn't have the range but everyone else seems to find their commentary mindblowing so I just kept my feelings to myself to not sound elitist.

[@lucasolivdantas]

we don’t know about will’s mess because people tend to dismiss highly adored men’s messes + discredit the women that would or may come out.... orrrrr jada/a woman’s mess is way more scrutinized and judged?

[@alinazhidil9817]

But do we know any women who came out there claiming an entalganment with Will? We're judging Jada because that's what Smiths gave us

[@spazz-ok9nr]

Shouldn't it be? Isn't he doing all the heavy lifting?

[@cassandraklewicki8512]

Jada told Howard Stern that she and Will were in an open relationship during an interview once. It was the same interview where she said if he died she wouldn’t get another husband, she would get “companions” and she talked a lot about her relationship with Tupac. Anyone else remember this?

[@smilealwaysnatasha3423]

I like how they operate as a strong family unit. Like you will never see them go against eachother

[@804smiles]

Yes I hoped u talked about this. Yes they really can control the narrative like pros! Hell I need 2 take some lessons I luv how they didnt make Aug seem crazy or out as a liar tho I'm here for it tho!

[@Akornefa]

Loooooved this format on KZbin and the way it allowed for other voices to get involved in the conversation. It was super respectful, no one was long winded, and I think the other perspectives enriched the conversation beautifully! Kudos on this curation!

[@Vainashell]

This whole story and that ikea table talk was a good learning tool about life in general.

[@bobby12348]

True don't talk to people say they separated from wife or husband.

[@nikkilashay]

I wish they would have talked about the way Jada met August. She met him through her son, which is disgusting. If Will started having sex with one of their daughters friends he would be canceled and looked at as a predator.

[@brieoliver]

Well his daughter's friends are teens so yeah. It would be predatory lol. August might have been younger than her but he was a grown ass man. Idk why yall are infantalizing him like folks in their mid 20s dont have agency to sleep with whomever.

[@nikkilashay]

@@brieoliver their son was a teenager when he introduced August to the family.

[@brieoliver]

@@nikkilashay August was not though. August was a grown man in his 20s when he met the Smiths

[@nikkilashay]

@@brieoliver a young man who was dealing with drug addiction, the death of his brother, his sister being sick, Fame, and mommy issues. He was at a vulnerable place in life and she took advantage.

[@KhumoMalope]

I've been saying this all day 😭🤢

[@lauruhhh]

All this drama aside; ForHarriet, I could listen to you all day. Thank you for using a platform to express your views on issues, which I have always found to be refreshingly fair, kind hearted, honest, just everything. Thank you; never ever ever stop please. ❤️

[@maachan711]

Now if the roles were reversed and Will had done what Jada had done while they were "separated," all you'd see are comments like "Well, they were separated so he did nothing wrong". I feel like people are holding Jada to a higher standard than they'd hold Will to (especially given his "entanglement" allegations) but that's just me.

[@brieoliver]

Will DID do what Jada did while they were separated. Idk why yall think this man was celibate while his wife had a full relationship with someone else lol. He's had some things on the side

[@dumfriesspearhead7398]

@@brieoliver But what came out?

[@brieoliver]

@@dumfriesspearhead7398 It doesn't have to come out for it to exist. This wouldn't have come out either if August didn't have an album to promote. All of this is a business transaction for everybody.

[@jaccl4539]

you guys keep missing the point and setting double standards for men and or women. The issue wasnt the sex the issue was the relationship and how Jada didnt control it so they have to be on the red table. second the actions were predatory period it doesnt matter if it was a male or female. If i am the core facilitator of both your drug and emotional recovery and your stability and I use you for sex because " I just wanted to feel good" - its wrong. Doesnt mean , its our business or that you cant legally do it or if some people dont care . There is thousands of people right now who would of loved to get used like that by Will or Jada and thats fine but again it doesnt not make it predatory.

[@eccentricaste3232]

@@jaccl4539 She is not a trained therapist. This is where you statement falters. Therapists are trained to deal with with Aug's problem and how to prevent the patients obsession with their therapists. I don't blame her a bit. It's well known that patients often fall in love with their therapists. Why didn't he go to a professional?

[@marciahenry-morgan1458]

It's been the REDemption Table Talk Show for a while

[@carmensmithaguirre3049]

Damn..😬

[@rebecarodrigues1048]

LMAO

[@nanuhoneyluv]

LMAO, bruh, someone is saying how will looked hurt. Have y'all heard and read the rumors about will having a side piece for years?!?!

[@thepriceisright048]

i think will isn't hurt that she cheated i think he's upset because he's embarrassed about everybody knowing about it.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

Thepriceisright04 That looks that way for me too. I feel a lot of folks ignore or didn’t watch the beginning of RTT and saw how genuinely upset they were over the situation. And some folks had the audacity to say that they don’t seem like a couple. Like, what they supposed to do, smooch it up while talking about the hardest time in their marriage?

[@ElizabethHome153]

@@thepriceisright048 100%, both of them said they are in an open marriage on national tv on Oprah show, so

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Jada the side piece once? When he was in his first marriage, and he had his first son and dedicated his cover of "Just The Two of Us" to that son... and he fell in love with Jada not too long after that. I don't remember how it happened exactly, it was so long ago.

[@nanuhoneyluv]

@@thepriceisright048 I think they're both embarrassed. They're talking about their private life publicly. A lot of people judge as if know people's private life. Here they are having a discussion about having a polyamorous marriage when it's not the norm. It's awkward and now with public opinion, they're force to address it publicly.

[@mizzbelle97]

Look, Will and Jada are GROWN. They were separated. SINGLE. They agreed to that. Wether or not we like it doesn’t matter. August was most definitely preyed on. I don’t think that was her intention. You cannot engage in a relationship with that big or a power imbalance it just isn’t ethical. BUT, they are all grown and we can’t hold celebrities to some super high moral standard they fuck up all the time we all do. The smith family in my opinion does more good than bad.

[@kaktusdesiberie7196]

They were married. Until you are divorced you are married. If you have some ethic and standards...

[@brieoliver]

@@kaktusdesiberie7196 They were separated and both decided to live as such. If they said their marriage was done, it was over whether legal or not.

[@kaktusdesiberie7196]

Briana Oliver I completely disagree. When you marry you don’t only make a promise to someone else. It’s about keeping your word and acting with honour. Especially if you marry in front of God. But to each is own...

[@brieoliver]

@@kaktusdesiberie7196 Well its not really something you or anyone can disagree with lol. Now maybe you feel a piece of paper is the deciding factor for marriage but clearly they do not. Their basis of their marriage is the commitment and they broke their commitment to one another. He did his thing and she did hers. All parties knew what it was and agreed to it.

[@TwoPrettyRedDimes]

I agree 💯 but preyed upon nooo he's grown as hell and new what s up ,just like Monica lewiski

[@Oraclebaddietx]

LAYING IT LOW AND SPREADING IT WIDE 🤣🤣🤣 that part really sent me!!

[@katharinew4218]

I loved all your guests, especially the girl from London

[@thati_monaheng]

There was a guest appearance from a South African woman here. I know that accent 😂❤️

[@cj10109]

They’ve said time and time again, they’re not breaking up. It’s a partnership not a marriage...

[@stevesayers2471]

August was the kid's friend first!!!!! Willow, Jaden and Trey!!!! THEIR friend!!!

[@Marie_N]

When Will said that he learned to deal with his feelings because of Willow I seriously doubt that he meant that he used her for that purpose. Healthy (emotional health is a spectrum) parents are open to learning from their interactions with their children. And different children teach parents different things. I think Will was saying that his interactions with his daughter taught him how to get in touch with and express his feelings in a way that his other relationships did not. Fathers parent daughters differently than they do their sons. They don't necessarily love them more or less but it is different. Through his relationship with Willow he was able to access his feelings differently which helped all of his relationships.

[@brieoliver]

But doesn't that say something though? By the time they had Willow, Will had already been married twice, and had two sons. Why did it take this 3rd child for him to think of his emotions?

[@sugarpearl9781]

Briana Oliver I think that may have something to do with fathers parenting their daughters differently than their sons.

[@laurenm392]

I couldn't wait to hear your commentary. Bring the fire sis 🔥

[@livvel7447]

Portia (sp?) had me laughing my ass off with the I'm possible comparison

[@ThaBlkRainbow]

Well I'm biased but I'm not interested in assigning fault or insults to a Black woman for the consensual sexual relationship she engaged in with another grown Black man. The power dynamics and details are concerning but the end result is the same. Jada wanted saw interest in a younger man. A younger man who was available and attractive to her. August presented himself available and interested in pursuing this relationship knowing Jada's situation and knowing the possible problems that could unfold if things went south. It happens all the time. "Stella got her groove on." August had just as much agency to get professional help as Jada did to work through their emotional baggage. Humans are humans. They both wanted to have sex with each other.

[@alexish8183]

Thank you.

[@wittykitti]

That's just it. They are adults, they are humans, the end

[@a.lynnmclaughlin106]

This!! Are you in my head?

[@niani8359]

God bless, some sense

[@PhantomDharma]

I agree. He was an adult (maybe a naive one, but who the hell wasn't naive about relationships in their 20's), and she was an adult. They will both learn from this and move on like adults typically do.

[@insertwittynamehere_]

What is frustrating to me is how much leeway Jada is receiving when clearly she wasn’t right. I wish August received a little more empathy; he was used and thrown away.

[@noelle4luv]

I understood it as when she decided to try again with will that August decided to distance himself, they're relationship was based on friendship in the beginning, it wasn't like she just met him on the street. Also August has never discussed it in a way that he felt taken advantage of but that he is grateful for that time. But I do agree that he doesn't deserve the hatred he's getting and deserves acceptance and empathy.

[@michaeltruthson6262]

Look if you go playing in the Devil's house you're going to get burned bottom line. August went playing in OPP aka adultery so he has reaped what he sows. He had a choice and he chose wrong. Object lesson get your own toy then you can play with it any time you want.

[@missreed012]

This is why people shouldn’t worship celebrities because they are human beings just like us....they fall short like everybody else.

[@michaeltruthson6262]

@@missreed012 Yes they are very much human and still have the same issues and problems they had before their star began to shine. Poor Jada has been an admitted sex addict. August got into something and involved with someone who is on a another level.

[@lilymorgan7128]

I always find it weird when the blame is more focused on the person not in the marriage. Added with the fact Jada was older than him and there was a clear power dynamic. Just vulnerable people preying on other vulnerable people.

[@SianLondon]

Thank you Kim, I was interested to hear your take on this.

[@lettea.437]

What I dont get is why do we find it so hard to believe that a 20 year old man wont willingly smash a good looking 39 year old woman. Also older women dont stop being sexual. What is wrong is the circumstances. He was not the right person to engage in such relations given their history at the time. August still seems quite proud of the relationship. He aint complaining.

[@jaccl4539]

I think your missing the point and stating a good example as well. the issue is not what you stated . I am sure there is thousands of people who would have loved to be August to Jada or Will. The point is regardless there taking advantage of a situation. said another way Jada or Will or anyone could have been single and in the same situation and they still took advantage of "Aug" thats a different conversation then Aug was okay with being taken advantage of and thought the deal was great.

[@brieoliver]

@@jaccl4539 So you're saying addicts can't have relationships???

[@brieoliver]

This is where I am. I cannot call a 23 year old hooking up with an older woman a predatory relationship. Is it the most healthy thing to do when you're going through it? Probably not lol. But it being inappropriate does NOT make it abuse.

[@jaccl4539]

@@brieoliver no what I am saying is there numerous people in the world that get married to there rapist and still live great and contented lives. It still doesnt mean raping anyone is a good thing even though after 20 years that same couple could say an actually mean it- raping him or her and being raped is the best thing that happened to me and now I have an amazing family. Dont confuse a good conclusion/result/acceptance with a positive/good catalyst. Said another way dont confuse someone who accepts being taken advantage of and therefore wants the outcome with meaning no one took advantage in the situation. Proper context is key

[@lettea.437]

@@jaccl4539 I dont get your point. I am saying I dont agree with the circumstances under which the relationship happened. She was supposed to be helping him heal etc. But dont make it seem like it's so unusual for a younger man to like and persue older women. If the circumstances surrounding the formation of said relationship made it predatory, not just the age difference.

[@maeahem]

Also, August did have agency and autonomy but he was taken advantage of. It wasn’t just the age, he was at a rock bottom vulnerable time and she was his mentor. That’s like a teacher student relationship. Plus she’s a black cultural icon with still current media presence and power. He said it affected his friendships, relationships, career opportunities and finances. He didn’t come out better. Even though he does still have love for her. Calling her a goddess and that he can die knowing he’s loved. I think in helping her deal with her own trauma from past relationships like Tupac, they bonded. Will probably never addresses it with her and August models some of his music and self from Tupac as a lot of young black artists. The way Will and Jada brushes it off was for themselves. They don’t want to too much digging so have presented us with a light hearted version to digest. We the audience don’t want to go deeper. We want to continue to support them and watch their movies and shows. I hope August comes out fine. They should support him behind the scenes if he’s been blackballed because of disbelief in the relationship.

[@myaco6430]

This part!!! This is what people don’t understand. I don’t care about their marriage or who cheated. I’m more concerned with how this unhealthy relationship affected him. Even the age gap itself wouldn’t be bad if it didn’t have those other details to it.

[@rhondaparham7137]

@@myaco6430 Agreed!!!

[@dumfriesspearhead7398]

I thought they had an open marriage, so why is this an issue?

[@Mpz3cat]

My thoughts exactly. Aren’t they poly? What’s the big deal

[@siani1920]

Julia Mimi perfect summary lol

[@Les_lee]

Will and Jada said their marriage was “open”? Ive heard rumors, but even in this interview they never said it was or not. She acknowledged a relationship (after prodding) and they both acknowledged a separation.

[@maggiemcfly5267]

Yeah, I thought that too. If not true where on earth did I get to that conclusion? lol

[@RNM-bu4rj]

Maggie McFly we have all heard those rumors from the early 2000s...

[@babyyodachelsea7034]

I do not believe she’s getting leeway as a woman I think she is getting the exact opposite I think if this was a man he’d be able to tweet that him and his wife were on a break his wife like that tweet and that would be the end and “the victim” would be shamed for even talking about it i.e. Selena Gomez (we don’t have compassion for women especially not the black community we have a love for drama). I don’t think this grown ass man is damaged by their “entanglement” from years ago I think this grown ass man Who could so atrociously disrespect Keke for nothing!!! is just dropping an album soon.

[@siani1920]

Thank you ! I completely agree with you and the general discussion around this has been making me feel crazy lol like I cannot for the life me understand why people care about their marriage so much. And I also feel like it’s soooo obvious that August is being bitter and spiteful and was trying to hurt jada and it’s disappointing to see a lot of people jump on that to drag (yet another) black women, for what honestly feels like NOTHING

[@oliviatheresa]

Come on people Jada around the way said Will was "doing his thing" as well while they were separated. She said he has already gotten her back so I don't see why people feel so bad for him. He said he was done with her and they were broke up. I think she should have waited until they permanently were no longer a couple before she stepped out but they decided to work it out and they seem like they are in a good place. Everybody in this situation was grown.

[@Estrellitawilliams]

I don’t understand the judgement from so many. It is their marriage, and while it’s not “conventional” it’s what works for them. You know that old saying “Sometimes a man and a woman have an understanding that no one else understands.”

[@Pursuepeace0715]

the comments around the 28:15 minute mark was very insightful.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Love your vids always Kim ❤️

[@s.f.6860]

Great upload. Interesting insights into strategic communication. In the end, they made LOTS of money off the views/viewership.

[@NellzBK_]

While I did hear everything you said, I was focused a lot on your hair. It is YOUR LOOK! It looks really nice on you girl.

[@michelleej]

First of all, I love the thumbnail and the branded background for this video. Whoever you hired did an amazing job. Looks so professional! This doesn't seem to be a popular opinion, but I don't think her relationship with August was cheating. Will said he had left her. He was done with her - before she began her relationship with August. I don't read his facial expressions as hurt. He was done with her. She didn't cheat on him. I think he was frustrated that they had to deal with the situation publicly. They have done a good job of keeping their private life private until now.

[@littleeva]

In every relationship there is a power dynamic. It's rare that people are on the same level at the same time. One person's value could be money, but another person's value could be youth. Maybe Will is involved with married women or women in relationships.

[@CARATMom]

My friends know how I feel about Jada. I swear that Jada doesn’t actually read. I remember when she spoke (yelled) at the Million March and I haven’t stopped rolling my eyes ever since. This is classic Jada-if folks think that you are going to get depth, nuance or self awareness from Jada-think again. (Edit) Jada is codependent. She focuses on healing others as a distraction from addressing her issues. It’s why she is always trying to appear like she is so wise. But knows nothing.

[@dejavu0825]

I love your hair. 😍

[@Purplepalace22]

Lowkey they make a toxic mariage look niceeee lol

[@anissa2361]

No they don't! It seems stressful to me.

[@brendagriffin9217]

I love you so much, Kimberly, I Know I don’t know you really, but you effect me. Thank you.

[@PatriciainOz]

Thank you for this ....I kept checking back and back to see this. You are right about the power dynamic not only with each other and other people. Thanks for taking a minute to get a pov out. Look forward to next weeks post.

[@DoraWinifred]

I know the smiths keep this free love energy, however How would jada feel if what she did was done to her own son, would both her and will keep this same energy? On the flip side I think so much energy against jada highlights how we again forget black male accountability, everyone says will is hurt but he’s a grown adult and agreed to an open relationship and he could be doing his own thing, august as much as he was vulnerable he is an adult if we flipped the ages and genders we wouldnt be as harsh, if will did this with a 22 year woman we wouldnt really question him so much, we would be harsh on the woman and say she’s clout chasing.

[@rhondaparham7137]

Agreed. Someone, maybe even Kim, made a comment about Monica Lewinsky & power dynamics. Really? The only thing that could have made the power dynamics more polarized between the U.S. President (B. Clinton) and a college intern (M.L.), is if she had been intellectually impaired! Yet... Monica was Crucified in the press and homes throughout America. Hell, comedians (male & female) were still using her as a punchline up until the height of the Me Too Movement. In certain circles they still low-key ridicule her -- 25+ years later! 😝

[@weirdexcursions1865]

Jada should have made August sign an NDA. Smh. Private business should stay private.

[@MK-hh1vo]

It's his business as much as hers; he has a right to go public if he sees fit.

[@msmiami212]

You know those aren’t legally enforceable right? It’s just an private agreement between A & B.

[@joeannchaney1219]

@@MK-hh1vo Exactly.Why do people keep forgetting that?

[@fruitmonsterfly1]

M. They aren’t legally enforceable, but the other party can sue the person for a ton of money if they break it. So there is that.

[@weirdexcursions1865]

Joeann Chaney August has an agenda and nothing to lose. He is hurt and trying to be malicious for a relationship he signed up for. ..... did you ever ask yourself why is he publicly coming out with the news now after 4 years for the entanglement? ...... if he wanted peace to his mental health, then keep it private. Don’t make it public for the world to judge you and the world doesn’t know you.

[@gloriadgl812]

I'm so glad that so many ppl were looking at this situation with such nuance good job everybody.

[@Fargnarglethethird]

Victims of grooming often don’t realize they’ve been abused for years, decades even.

[@Steve19906]

watching yall monogamous people trying to interpret their relationship is a mix of hilarious and exhausting. The only part of this that is weird is the age gap (and honestly is very off putting- idk the real ages but its boarderline gross). But poly people have been doing the 'business arrangement', and the secret open relationship for YEARS. We are reading their arrangement clear as day: they wants to reap the benefits of being the "perfect black couple" but they also wanted to have fun outside the relationship, so they decided to keep it secret. Will knew Jada was fucking, Jada knows Will be fucking. So stop slut shaming Jada, or making Will seem like a victim. Literally the only thing yall should be worrying about is the age gap, theres nothing wrong with the rest of the relationship.

[@chazthomas123]

Oh my goodness thank you. I like how everyone is a relationship expert when they literally have no idea what these people’s lives are like. Being poly is a thing and many people do it successfully. I think Will and Jada aren’t comfortable coming out with who they are because people would judge them bad, especially with how they are seen in the black community so they had to frame the narrative this way. My only issue with it is definitely the age difference and the fact that August may have been going through a mental health crisis when they were together. People love to assume there is no way people can be happy if they are in an open relationship and that’s just not true. The marriage between my husband and I is healthier than that of our three monogamous siblings so this fantasy that something is “wrong” when you choose a different love style is ridiculous.

[@amac9443]

thank you

[@ukkugoodasfidem]

And I don’t think the age gap is the issue either. More the vulnerability and power dynamics

[@juicyparsons]

yeah I definitely have been wanting to hear more from people who identify as polyamorous because you all probably have more nuanced lens around this stuff. People who practice responsible polyamory can be the most emotionally mature and honest people out there imo. I'm not but the ones I know are constantly committed to learning and growing themselves

[@AhhhsoNeo]

That’s why i had to stop watching. Too many people invested in a relationship construct they know nothing about.

[@Kashimana]

I think she was trying to re-capture the glory days with Will Smith and when they met. Guys have midlife crisis all the time and we excuse that. Jada needed to have one..

[@caseyw.6550]

Your audience is amazing.

[@katfunk9538]

I work with people like August, I call them all kids, and judge like hell when they date people far out of their age range. These kids need good people in their lives. And occasionally there are older people who are good for them, but it doesn't seem like Jada had his interests in mind at all. She's public, she made this more public. She was older and more famous. She had the power. She knew he was broken.

[@annholl1603]

She was also broken😭

[@MsSong2U]

I enjoyed this exchange of ideas. Great conversation.

[@MsDenise522]

hmp its really MESSY🙈

[@bobby12348]

U should know u a horse.😂🤣

[@0812820]

This was the best discussion of this topic that I’ve seen anywhere.

[@Kk-fj5tn]

"I... felt really handled by them"... That comment...😲😲😲😲😲😲😲🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheKoyn]

Another thing I would like to add about both Will and Jada not seeking professional help, is how that sets a standard for black people not seeking help when they need it. There are *_thousands_* of black folx that can not afford to seek help- or even just be discriminated against when they do- the least Jada and Will could do is help set a better example for all the ones that _can_ afford help. But regardless of bullshit capitalist system, make it more acceptable in the black community, encourage more black mental health specialists in the community. Instead of dragging people from the opposite sex down (Jada to August, Will to Willow). That's not only hurtful to you and the people around you, but it's hurtful to the black community because the Smiths have such a huge influence.

[@seeesspee]

It’s so annoying how people keep saying Will is so hurt🤣🤣 Will is pissed it’s out on front street. That’s it. Jada didn’t do anything wrong. Nothing Will isn’t doing. His just isn’t on blast.

[@Mclarex]

Great video - you and your callers said everything I was thinking too and I knew this video would be on point. I think Will and Jada were extremely pissed that August pulled back the curtain and gave us a glimpse of the 'mess' behind the curated brand, as you said. And so there was not one bit of them that could bring themselves to even pretend to care about August's wellbeing in that (extremely brief) response they gave. They gave themselves away there. I'm surprised that they wouldn't have kept the criticism of the potentially predatory nature of this relationship in mind, but it just didn't seem to be a concern for them at all. Even going as far as to accentuate this was YEARS ago and why is he bringing it up now - oblivious to the fact that this was a MAJOR deal for a young vulnerable man in his early 20s. It was all just weird to me, especially as they are parents to children not much younger than him.

[@saboo1_2]

Yes! Here for all the mess LOL

[@cynthiarose4056]

Great public analysis of a modern day relationship dilemma. The myriad opinions offered a wide range and dynamic approach to a complex intimate situation. I’m still confused though. Thanks Kim for opening up a serious discussion.

[@kitokamilimusic6378]

I so appreciate this perspective❤

[@kitokamilimusic6378]

Yep, narrative controlled AF. I don't blame them, tho- really none of their personal business is anybody else's business, so why not paint the picture that lets them hide if they feel the need to do so. It's a whole study in shame, underestimating people's intelligence, and playing people who can be played.

[@calmingwaves3134]

Really good analysis, from you and your guests, I learned a whole lot, thanks Kim.

[@locoglenncoco]

I love your content!!