Let's talk about Le Mans Ultimate New DLC

[@randomcallsign]

If James is rustled, I am sorry

[@brtcobra]

anytime FFB is mentioned.. James is ruffled 😂

[@DieterMaier-r6k]

LMU, as the name suggests, is now the ultimate king of simracing! 👍

[@mikecroshaw9233]

@DieterMaier-r6k assuming you only want to race WEC content. Which is a tiny subset of sim racing.

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

LMU is the new reference in sim racing world !!!

[@nicolasgottero]

I pay for the DLCs because this sim has mega potential and has brought me so much satisfaction while driving on it. I want the community to grow and game to stay alive therefore I'm fine paying for the new content. It's my way of supporting the game and the devs since they've been working hard and they also have to feed their families, and it's worth it to me based on the amount of enjoyment the sim has given me. At the end of the day I just want others to realize and appreciate the amount of detail and realism that goes into LMU

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

Its an honor to support S397 / MSG with season pass!

[@darwinLee81283]

14 Quid for 4 cars and 1 track. All that are better than IRacing Which would cost you $58 on iRacing

[@0-60STYLE]

Yes but iRacing works and this game isn't even completed 😂 get real mfer

[@phaze7843]

@@0-60STYLE it literally is this game is nothing like it was at launch their are zero bugs and glitches and all menus work well. Don't complain if you have never even played it

[@josephbargo5024]

People pay for iRacing for competition. You can’t compare them until LMU has 1000s of people online consistently.

[@Jojo44_Racing]

This is the biggest problem with the iracing community! They turn a blind eye to all iracing problems for years! Crap netcode! Crap graphics, crap tires, crap abs and tc! But yet they are always the first bunch of guys bashing every other sim! All iracers should be thankful to LMU because since Lmu release they finally started updating the game much faster! At least y’all got a one off F1 car 499p 😂🤣 straight up robbery…

[@215Sugarfree]

@@0-60STYLE Man said the cars are better than iracing. I will be racing anything I bought from iracing every day for at lease a year at anytime of the day. This shit will be dead in a month or two for lack of people racing. Update hype.

[@1753sarah]

F1 23 - 300 hours of gameplay at £60. £0.20/h and I considered that good value for money for 1 year. LMU - 160 hours and counting at ~£25. £0.15625/h and I will play this title for a lot longer (as long as it continues to exist) Even with the Season Pass this works out to £0.47/h and I've only owned the title for 3 months. I try to look at it in terms of satisfaction derrived over the outright price. I think the title is awesome (kinks and all) though I hope they are ironed out ASAP.

[@Bambeakz]

Just keep saying it and you will believe it. Why don’t you buy a million dollar supercar? After 1 million hours driving it is just 1 dollar/hour. Sounds like a deal to me

[@1753sarah]

@@Bambeakz utility, like affordability, is relative. One who can afford a million dollar car might not need a million hours to consider it worthwhile. They definitely wouldn't consider £75 on a game expensive either. Out of curiosity, what would you consider a fair price for LMU in it's current state?

[@lukebennellick]

@@Bambeakz If I had 100 million, I'd buy a million dollar supercar in an instant. What's your point?

[@JohnBellone]

I thought I was crazy earlier today thinking my wheel was configured wrong. Thank you for confirming I am not crazy.

[@mikecroshaw9233]

I also get that middle dead zone . Rest of it is really good . Hope they can fix it .

[@trimw]

This isn't a new way to do business, iracing when it launched originally would be attacked violently today for what it was. It was so bare bones and broken in so many ways. But we all paid for it and used it anyway. Nothing has changed just some products on the market are more mature now.

[@AL.farmlife]

hey bro you need to open controller file in the game folder, find your wheel and add saturation 75 and cooficent 70. this will fix the wheel

[@AL.farmlife]

Steering Resistance Coefficient This setting adjusts the level of resistance felt when turning the wheel. It simulates how heavy or light the steering feels by adding friction or damping forces to the wheel. Higher values result in heavier steering, giving a stronger sensation of the car’s resistance to turning. Lower values make the steering feel lighter and easier to turn, which may suit long stints to reduce fatigue. Saturation Saturation determines the maximum output of the FFB signal. It effectively compresses or limits the strength of the forces. Higher saturation makes forces feel more pronounced, but it may cause clipping (where subtle details are lost because the force exceeds the wheel's capability). Lower saturation allows for finer detail but at the cost of less overall strength.

[@FrostMPB]

i agree, you pay full price for a broken game with content cut out, only to have to pay for that content that was missing originally as DLC later down the line at full price like the game is ready and finished, early access dlc should be 25-30% cheaper if the game is not in full release with acceptable levels of content and performance

[@flashjor98]

Before the update I thought LMU bugs were crashing certain tracks and it turned out to be Moza 's software. Only found out because it was in Moza's patch notes.

[@bhendrikabel]

Strange, i’ve got the same wheel as you: Bavarian Alpha, DD2, no problems at all with ffb, feels great. No problem with anything except ffb loss at start of a session once in a while, back to garage, solved.

[@valter_vava74]

He's just a hater. WHY he is not making a video about iRacing's HEIST on their player base, stealing USD12.00 from them, to put out a 499P that is worthy of FORZA... lololol... where is the OUTRAGE?!?!?!

[@randomcallsign]

@@valter_vava74 HeS JusT a HaTEr

[@marcosicolo4542]

On your point at the end, I share with you the frustration of accepting the price structure of some sim racing games, but consumers are the ones allowing this to happen. Iracing has probably the worst pricing model and yet, it is still the most popular sim and they have been very successful. Why wouldn’t others try to replicate? We as consumers should not allow this to happen, but as long as we keep feeding their greed, they wont stop.

[@mvpdustin843]

People don’t understand. Price is booth iracings biggest negative and positive. Sure the cars are expensive and sure you can get similar or better content in other games but it keeps so many idiots away. Once you are out of lower license classes racing is just amazing. There is nothing like the imsa multiclass series. Content is irrelevant. As long as people like the cars and people drive fairly they gonna like it.

[@mvpdustin843]

Plus people don’t buy stuff this expensive to just fuck around. Iracing players seem much for invested in actually surviving longer races than on other sims

[@namesii1880]

It is time to take a step back and actually look at what you get for your money. For me 12 dollars for a single track or, even a car is fine ultimately. The content takes months of work by people working in a very niche space. This isn't like CoD or similar live service slop where you are paying 25 dollars for some basic skins while the company rakes in billions of revenue. You can get a track that is virtually a 1:1 recreation of a real place for less money than some games charge for a simple recolor of your weapon.

[@marcosicolo4542]

@@mvpdustin843 I race on AMS2, ACC and AC for free on LFM, and on LMU for free and I didn’t notice any difference with Iracing. Once you get your safety rating up, you race with people that have the same racing standards as Iracers. I did the Iracing 3 months membership twice and one month once in the last year or so and I think I have enough races on it to compare. I think what you mentioned is just another sim racing myth and a way to excuse our excessive spending and the devs greedy business model. I’m not hating on Iracing specifically, I’m criticizing us consumers for being so gullible and allow this to happen. Soon enough you will need a subscription for every single sim and they will all have micro transactions

[@mvpdustin843]

@@namesii1880 exactly. I’d like iRacing to be a bit better in some areas but with them having this service model I’m sure they are improving the game even in 5 years from now. Thas just not happening with like an acc or ams2. Let’s see what LMU does

[@plasticmanc3774]

I subscribe to iracing and have bought multiple other sims and dlc. I really wanted to like LMU when it was first launched as i love the series, but i didnt play it much due to its issues. Ive revisited it a number of times and i would say that it is now my favourite drive by a decent margin. It needs other bits but it it is now wildly engaging to drive if a bit difficult to to the braking on lmp2 and hypercars being harder than ofher sims. I hope it grows and gets more users.

[@Papparonie]

Ricardo you mentioned that in iRacing the TC makes you loose momentum, and the ABS makes the car very understeery. What do you think about the TC / ABS in AMS2?

[@misterdog7]

Don't forget the statue of Senna's head in the stands coming up to the start finish line! I like that as much as the mural ;)

[@LtrDaniel12]

Bought the control plus at 80.00 , mostly to support the devs in hopes they fix the FFB issues and other small things. However if the FFB issues are not fixed by the time my re sub comes up ,I will cancel.

[@turektomasz]

I bought LMU yesterday evening. I got 2.6 hours on it already and I quite like it . Generally driving experience feels nice. Physics and car behavior feels way better than Iracing to me. The only thing that I will miss from Iracing is Toyota GR and MX5 which is fun if you learn how to control it. Game crashed on me yesterday which is not good but anyway it what it is. I'm using base game with free content so far but considering to buy dlc to support developers. This sim has huge potential, lets hope developers won't give up on it.

[@johnelliott7850]

Yeah, full agreement about being told to expect early bugs and incomplete games. Soon, we'll be expected to pay full-price for a bloody 'exe' file.

[@tomjxn]

Can I just make a point of acknowledging the correct use of British slang here mate. 14 quid isn't bad you're right.

[@duncani3095]

Really strange, don't have those problems on my end. And haven't seen that placeholder LMU liveried Porsche since the first update this spring. 🤔🤷‍♂

[@jamesleegte]

I honestly don’t get why people are happy to pay for DLC when a game is 1.0 but not when a dev team say it’s EA. Technically AMS2 was in EA for 4.5 years until 1.6 came out and folks happily bought DLC. LMU could easily say right now the game is 1.0 and I think they will turn it to 1.0 when the fourth pack releases as a way of celebrating all content being available. Support your devs, stop making up ridiculous rules about DLC and enjoy! If steam allow it, why are folks making up weird rules and expectations about DLC?

[@LargeStyle]

It's a (mis)prioritisation issue / concern - some consumers don't like to financially support additional content when they've already paid to support and want to play the main product which remains incomplete and is being ignored. This problem is exacerbated when you factor in that people likely bought into rF2 and it's endurance content, only for that project to be abandoned but then repackaged by the same devs and using the same engine, just to cash in on it being a new title so that they avoid going bust. I kinda get how their survival instincts came up with this plan, but because they're screwing over both loyal rF2 fans and even LMU fans that simply want a finished base game, their cash-before-morals approach doesn't sit well with a lot of people, including myself. If you still don't understand it - how would you like it if you bought a prototype car but it was mechanically incomplete / unsound, and when you took it back to the manufacturer to get it fixed they instead spent all their time and focus adding optional extras? Anyone in their right mind would be: WTF you doing? Fix the damn car first. Also, you're way off the mark with AMS2's EA period - that started on March 31st 2020 and came out of EA with V1.0 on June 30th 2020. I don't have LMU mainly because of their immoral practices, but from what I've gathered online, LMU is not "easily" complete / V1.0 material yet by a considerable margin.

[@michelforest6329]

AMS2 was NOT in early access before 1.6

[@LargeStyle]

@@michelforest6329 EA / pre-v1.0 was obviously before 1.6.

[@jamesleegte]

@ that’s why I put technically that it was. Each update since 1.0 was to fix how fundamentally broken it was from a driving experience. I’ve had it since day one, I bought all the DLC to show support as I wanted it to succeed, but I had double figure hours played because of how garbage the physics and handling were from 1.0 to 1.5, it was unplayable. Now finally it’s an actual 1.0 game that’s worth playing. Steam charts don’t lie this is the first update where AMS2 has kept its player count post an update and I’m included in that.

[@jamesleegte]

@@LargeStylepretty much all the “shady” people have been removed from the company and Stephen Hood is doing all interviews and Update videos to help with company previous image. They aren’t the same company and also have produced an awesome new game for us all to enjoy. I love sim racing and the more sims the better! I don’t allow politics, or previous CEO’s or previous practices stop me from enjoying myself. I don’t like some of the nonsense that Morrissey comes out with or his life decisions, but that’s never going to stop me listening to Smiths albums. Why cut my nose to spite my face? I put technically AMS2 was EA until 1.6 because it was trash and it was mainly laughed at because of the physics. I bought all DLC to show support to AMS2 even though the game sucked and I had way under 100 hours in game in 4.5 years. This is the first update where AMS2 kept its player count after one weekend after a new update, which includes me, steam charts don’t lie. This is why I say technically AMS2 was EA until the end of November 2024, because prior to that it wasn’t a sim and it wasn’t worth playing unless you enjoyed hot lapping and power sliding in a weather simulator. Dare I mention the greyed out career tab? If you love WEC content and love racing online you are missing out not having LMU! I’ve played LMU more in the last three days ( I waited for vr beta release before playing ) than I did AMS2 in 4.5 years!

[@balkntv]

I totally agree with Early Access games these days. This seems to be the norm and the days of getting a more or less finished ready to play game are over. I understand these devs need the money flow to keep the project going but you can't ignore the fact that we are paying full price for games that are still not bug free and polished. That being said LMU has come a looooong way since original release. I hardly get any game crashes any more and bugs are "almost" non existent. The only issue I see still happening is server issues and bugs. Getting kicked from a race for no reason, not being able to get into practice session etc etc. Game itself has improved significantly and it is nice to see all the work actually showing in less buggy game. As for ffb issue you are mentioning, I have none of that on my wheel. Maybe it's only on some PC combo hardware or something. This game is for sure my fav alternative to iracing at the moment.

[@wabbit234]

"Oh it's a niche product" "It's just the price of EQUIVALENT ITEM OF FOOD" "An actual race car is much more expensive" "Just buy product and get excited for next product if you don't buy the product there won't be next product I need next product I can afford so many next products why can't you afford next product"

[@ClickerSnapper01]

Thx for the video RC. These are some of the reasons why I personally am not interested in getting LMU yet. I''ll just wait until maturity. There are plenty to keep me entertained for now. No doubt I'll have it one day... but at the moment I''ll pass because I see a lot of mentions about game stability, I do not see why they continue to release content without the basics being solid?? I would have already bought it even with less content if the core aspects were polished.

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

LMU is the new reference in sim racing world !

[@ThePape78]

😅

[@mike605]

I don't understand why they don't use the real sounds from the real cars ? the graphics are great but the sound is not there for the cars.

[@josephbargo5024]

Inside the car, outside or both?

[@MKIIUltRacer]

100% with you on the business model the went with. It feels strange to do but I'm fine with paying them for early acces to test the game for them. I have the base early acces version and I refuse to pay full DLC price for a game that is still in early acces. To me this is rediculous. I understand that they are a strugling studio and they need the money to survive but I don't think this is the way. I even think this will hurt their sales. I know the early acces price is not what you normally pay for a full game but it is still very much lacking content at the price point compared to other sims available. I know people keep telling me how awesome it is to drive and I agree that it feels nice when it works.. the problem that it does not work a lot of the time. I have a minimum of 2 crashes everytime I start the game before I can finally get in a race.

[@XavierGoncalves89]

7:39 Are you in Mexico?

[@randomcallsign]

si, ese

[@RBGgermanKX250F]

Don't have that issue with deadzone. And tire model is so much better than Iracing. Really hope this succeeds

[@turektomasz]

I got LMU yesterday and did not notice it as well. I got only 3 hours on it testing so far so maybe I will notice this problem later.

[@badgeud5709]

This game is very expensive. If you were enthousiastic at the beginning and you paid the season pass, it is alright. But if you didn t, you probably won t take it. I don t think they will attract new players. For this price, it shouldn t be in early access anymore.

[@kristofferkling9567]

Did you mean expensive or positive critique that it is expansive and will grow and that the experience is broad? From the end of your comment it sounds like you mean expensive, and to be fair I get the point. But it is probably also a title that if you play you stick with it for quite some time. It's all relative to how much you get out of the title and most likely in the end it won't be that expensive /h compared to other games you play

[@badgeud5709]

@@kristofferkling9567 Sorry, it was expensive,

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

Very expensive... 😂

[@rkwjunior2298]

I hate the feel in the wheel, which is nothing.

[@awakeandwatching953]

seems to be an issue with the gt3 cars.. hopefully they can sort it.. apparently you also wanna max out the ffb in lmu then set the NMs you want in the driver as oppose to the other way round which is the normal advice for most sims

[@imJGott]

1:10 its $84 a year! i know you did the lazy edit but you should go back and redo the audio but i was just listening to the video and not watching it. i only knew you was wrong because i have watched other videos that got it right with the sub pricing.

[@corneliusbotha4609]

Before people started complaining about paid dlc. It costs money to develop games and sim racing is niche. Besides sim racing is not a cheap hobby.

[@rboettger]

sim racing is niche. lol

[@0-60STYLE]

Yeah but let's not make it any more expensive than it needs to be holy shit

[@corneliusbotha4609]

@rboettger for games that are predominantly played online there is less users online for acc, ams, raceroom and lmu than Age of empires 4. A lot of people are saying rts is a dying genre.

[@wraith8323]

If you think 'development costs' are what compels DLC please listen to any publishers quarterly earnings call, it's public info

[@kurok1tenshi]

Sure, an alpha game asking for paid dlc and some fanboys defending this pratice.Its expensive for an alpha released, dunno any other game that did this but u do u, give them your money and pray it will get finished one day.

[@andy.long99]

Activating the Free DLC is a steam thing not left over RF2 thing

[@randomcallsign]

you sure? I never had to activate any free or paid DLC in any other game, besides rf2

[@igorbk]

​@@randomcallsignSCS does the same with its truck simulators, all new trucks that are added to the game are free DLC on steam.

[@andy.long99]

RF2 uses the Item Store for content and LMU uses Steam DLC items. Maybe it's because we add it as DLC rather than just adding it into the game as base content

[@RacingWithChuck27]

My simucube2 pro feels great

[@babar2057]

What some people in the comments fail to grasp is that the market for sim racing has never been more rich in content. We have many high quality consumer simulators available and fighting for your time and money, so just having a "realistic" driving simulator isn't enough. Those who are upset about the pricing for the DLC's and subscription model have every right to be - S397 is evidently trying to target the iracing demographic of players with their online multiplayer system - the private servers that they've implemented recently are only available through paid hosted servers, and S397 removed the ability to host your own dedicated server like you could in rfactor2. The arguments saying S397 is justified in their pricing model because they need to make money undermines the crux of the issue, which is that S397 chose to make an online focused esports-like racing service in a market that is fiercely competitive, and people will not easily accept subscriptions or season passes for a game that is new and unproven in the long term.

[@6665hitm4k3r]

The simple reason why hosting and some features of the MP system cost money (optional at that) - is pretty simple - supporting that infrastructure that doesn't grow out of nowhere costs money. It needs people to develop, integrate and support those features. It needs hardware to run on. This might come as a big surprise for some people but the options for league admins to host stuff on RaceControl is very cheap and very simple in comparison to what we had for rF2. No question, dedis are still needed at one point or another but easy hosting was allways a big request for rF2 and now LMU.

[@jimijames95]

How big is your bank account? That will solve all this "early access problems" They have to make money to keep going. You must have forgot how bugged AC was when it came out. LMU is great by comparison.

[@Rene_Bo]

I actually have the same issue, i cant connect to some servers. Did you just uninstall and reinstall through steam? On a sidenote, i really like it so i bought the season pass and subbed for racecontrol. We need to support it if we want it to succeed and evolve..

[@randomcallsign]

Yes. And delete steam folder.

[@Rene_Bo]

@@randomcallsign I recon you saved your settings folder, or delete that also?

[@randomcallsign]

Didn't delete that

[@sjorsrozendaal218]

I will not buy any of the dlc or subscriptions till the game is out of EA. I like LMU, but I will not endorse this kind of behavior. Including DLC the game would now cost 80 euros, and it is not worth that prices. The EA plus current DLC should be no more then 60 euros or so, as that is what I expect to pay for a full game.

[@karlheinzkupper9666]

will definetly wait with buying dlcs till game is fully released, tested the mclaren for like 30min, was a bit underwhelmed, but have to try a bit longer for a final thought

[@Thristed]

Love the game, but am kinda bored in it. I think if Ac Evo is a succes this game will have a problem.

[@RATTMAN]

I’ll pay for an early access game but I refuse to pay extra for DLC or services until the game is out of an early access state.

[@6665hitm4k3r]

Tbh, your review of the content doesn't really match with what you are complaining about. The only thing you need to make your mind up about is if the quality of the content varants the price or not and accept it as that, what you clearly did. Everything that we have got since release and going forward with the subs is optional. We get a pretty solid free online system with proper matchmaking, high quality content with constant patches and updates and easy hosting options for league admins. I have yet to come across more severe issues than in other titles for the price asked and the development team has been very responsive from my POV. Also, as much as I prefer certain products but this iRacing bashing that is going on is pretty annoying. Btw, there is a minimum force setting for the FFB that might help with the numb feeling at the center and the reason why the 720 like the Bimmer LMDh is a seperate DLC - not like in rF2 - is due to the content only being free during EA. I see still people being really nitpicky about anything that is related to LMU while the whole development of this title and it's content should be a pretty clear sign that they are doing their best. :)

[@mesfigas]

i notice the FFB center problem too

[@1Landyacht]

same. i think it may be related to camber/tires

[@mesfigas]

@@1Landyacht weird feeling in the center.feels like a new developer trying to make a simulator.Anyways

[@DieterMaier-r6k]

LMU, as the name suggests, is now the ultimate king of simracing!! 👍

[@stevespack77]

Fantastic game

[@enzoman444]

Dave’s fault

[@randomcallsign]

always

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

Maybe you can come up with a new business model for studios to make enough money while developing a game and receiving no income at all. Im sure they will be all ears.

[@Bambeakz]

Really curious how much potential customers they lost with the dlc in early acces. I know 5 people alone (including me)that will not buy this game before a deep deep sale because of that.

[@employeeofthemonth1]

Its a subscription where you have to pay a year upfront. They are pretty desperate.financially. No.self-hosted servers no buy for me.

[@Maartwo]

DLC during early access is a no buy for me

[@turektomasz]

Just buy dlc if you can afford it and keep in mind that you support developers. At least you own the game and content and you don't have to pay subscription to use it.

[@valter_vava74]

WHY are you not making a video about iRacing's HEIST on their player base, stealing USD12.00 from them, to put out a 499P that is worthy of FORZA... lololol... where is the OUTRAGE?!?!?! AND, it should be mentioned, the GTP, even before this update, had turning speeds +30KM/h above real life in high speed corners ... lololol... Those are NOT CROOKS... selling GTPs and LMH at USD12.00 a pop, without proper hybrid, completely unrealistic characteristics... NO, those are great people, those deserve all this .... SILENCE... Your 'Moral High Horse' is shorter than a PONY. MSG this, MSG that, .... get a F clue. There are incompetent people and crooks everywhere in business and MSG started with a good dose of both, but get a clue man... So iRacing wanted to do the LeMans24h and the 'community' really wants it to be the 'official sim' for Le Mans... get them to start with the SIM part and stop fooling their servant client base with lies AND intimidation practices on content creators who criticise iRacing... Freaking fools, making the bidding of a monopoly... lolol... Any f.... video about LMU has a negative tinge or tone. Any f.... video about any other sim, it's all rosy.... DON'T you freaking understand that your thirst for limelight, propagating negativity on LMU is costing brilliant people their jobs? That's it's putting at risk the development of the best pure simracing experience on the market. HANDS down?

[@randomcallsign]

If the most lukewarm valid criticism puts a company at risk, then the problem isn't the criticism.

[@Cereal_Killr]

Remember the days of paying 49.99 for a game...and it was done. Now you pay 44.99....then 14.99...then 14.99...then 4.99. Then they see if ya wanna pay 24.99 a year too keep playing with new stuff. Yeah its cool game can stay up to date and yadda yadda. I guess I just miss the simple old days. You bought a game and it was done, and it worked! Cause it was TESTED! lol