Let's talk about the State of Neverwinter (+ Explaining my Daily Routine)

Once I realized that you probably SHOULDN'T be doing this routine on a loop, this video definitely changed from a nice detailed morning/daily routine guide to a bit more of a ramble about where I'm at with the game in general. So you have a bit of invoking, collecting, and crafting in the workshop, and then a good look at my feelings towards Neverwinter up until recently, including why I take these breaks from the game. Feel free to join the discussion :)
Game | Neverwinter
Platform | Xbox and PC
PATREON | / ayva
SOCIALS | linktr.ee/ayvarhodes
#neverwinter #mod28 #iayva

[@user-pz4fc2kn8c]

I’m returning to this game after 6 years and just looking at everything has blown my brain up. I’m one video down and this channel has already helped so I just want to say thanks :)

[@coryjones7832]

First off, I’ll never forget the time I bumped into your toon ‘God’s Plan’ at Vellosk entrance! I recognized you and emoted, and you emoted back :D I run 9 toons and that’s too much sometimes, I can’t imagine in the 50s…

[@JinksDeJenn]

As someone who's only been playing on ps4 for a year now. I'm noticing, I feel sort of gatekept from end game content or higher content. Obtaining coal motes has become ridiculously hard. Obtaining higher quality gear turns into a circular reasoning problem. You need the currency from the higher content to get the higher gear. You can't really play the higher content though until you get the higher grade gear. The only way you can get that gear is by playing the higher level content you can't play without the higher grade gear. Ulgh.. A lot of the end game players want you to have certain mounts and companions the game just doesn't drop. Sometimes it will be stuff you just can't obtain anymore, like the stuff from the trail of the Bleeding Citadel; can't get it because that event is gone. There's weapons there that I could get if it wasn't gone and I have the currency for. Those weapons would jump start me to be able to pay higher end content that would start giving me access to really good gear, but nope it's all locked up and only available for people who've completed it in the past all account bound. I worked really hard on the grind to get the mirage weapons to help me out. Then the dev's decided to nurf them because some of the end game players I guess had a problem with lower levels out competing them on their DPS score, and they didn't think that was fair. A lot of those end game players don't want me to play, even though I'm fairly leveled up and have finished literally all the campaigns and legacy campaigns. No one does dragon hunts anymore. So, I'm not good enough, yet, for higher content, but the things they want me to get to be "good enough" keep getting nurffed or locked, or held behind a pay wall (I'm disabled do I'm very poor). I'm kind of stuck, there's tons of content I haven't played yet, as far as advanced, master dungeons, trails and reapers. If I could play those I might get the much needed coal motes and higher quality weapons and gear as well as more AD. Since I'm "not good enough" I just kind of stand around PE waiting for regular dungeons or advanced dungeons. Which regular dungeons have become like skirmishes to me. Can't find people who actually know the mechanics of random advanced dungeon ques and they always quit expecting high item level DPS to carry them I guess (even though you're scaled down which I suppose they don't realize). I don't understand why these end game players, which I'm sure not all see it this way. Would not want someone caught between advanced dungeon ques being like normal dungeons, but "not good enough" for more advanced content. Why they wouldn't want someone to have weapons or gear that would allow them to be at least "good enough." We all start somewhere right? Have they just been playing for so long they've forgotten? Have they been so far removed from how beginning the game has changed they don't even know? I hope my guild leader comes back because she wasn't on board with the elitist attitude some of the higher level players have. From my own personal experience being a "god" on Tomb Raider at one point. I can tell you, not teaching people, not growing the community and thus the platform will turn the game into a vacant wasteland of tumble weeds. I saw it on Tomb Raider when all the triple 60's started treating all the noobs like food. I saw it on The Last Of Us. I started to see it on Vigor, where the dev's there put more value on the meanest players that were chasing people off the game. It's a game killer when the community that inhabits the game fills up with the most narcissistic competitive players that treat new comers terribly. Especially when the dev's go out of their way to catere to them and squelch the new players. Literally I sit at PE for very LLLLOOOONNNGGG periods of time doing nothing. There's tons of content I've not even seen, new stuff as well as old stuff.

A lot of my guildmates do this and i always advice not to do it, because this is a toxic trait that burns you out from the game, this type of things give very little results. The time you invest doing that, you could invest it doing a single dungeon that can yield an item that is worth tons more than that.

[@mickmuzzmkmz1628]

If you have active guildies to run with, sure. But if like me recently, where hardly any guild or even alliance players are on, that just leaves the pug option. Having to run with pugs brings a higher risk of failure. I was trying to run pug queues to do my battle pass campaign, but just got sick of all the bullshit that brings with it. Taking over 50mins to get to the end boss in t9g, only to all die from the soulmonger attack, then have one of the bright sparks initiate a vote to abandon, and then have the other highly intelligent members of the team agree to this brilliant idea (like mindless lemmings following each other off a cliff), all while I yell at the the screen; "don't you fucking do it!!!", only to then see those dreaded words "instance shutting down in...", come on to the screen, is not my idea of a fun pass time. I can live with all the stupid glitches this game is plagued by, but it's the elitists dicks, the sheer number of absolute idiots, and the worst part; needing to rely on these "people" to progress in this game that make ask myself why I even bother to play it at all. The fun/time ratio is just too low.

[@topshotterz4eva]

​@@mickmuzzmkmz1628i can 100% relate

[@dazlee3257]

Hi Ayva, a nice listen while cooking dinner, I'll eat it slowly 😅 I've not played Neverwinter for a while, or anything else really, looking forward to trying the first descendant tomorrow though, i enjoyed the beta.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Remember when we could farm real Rough AD with Leadership and salvage epic gear for Rough AD? And every character could refine 36k AD per day? THAT was why so many characters with maxed Leadership was so worthwhile. And any of them could see Rhix and run dungeons. Now, it's just the Invoking Coins for 3% drop of BtA Coal Motes and double unbound Epic Enchanting Stones on Double RP. I still have 72 Bound Coals and hundreds of EES. Plus a stack of Elixirs every now and then when I get 500 Ardent Coins. And we can make a lot of gold. I save up a few hundred Coffers of Celestial Refinement and open them all on one character. {:o:O:}

[@LoboxCazadoRx]

I'm a TR we were more OP back in the day to me we still nurf 😅 plus mirage was my favorite weapon they keep nurf us in some other way Y.Y

[@forgottenbymortals9656]

Double professions must be brutal with 55 characters. Nothing like taking twice as long to get through.

[@iAyva]

Definitely was brutal every time! :(

[@GlennElliottKeller]

Especially if you’re…let’s say…crafting leather masks for example

[@adrianandadi7350]

Thank you so much for this video. I've 48 chrs (on PC), I understand many of the issue been playing for over a decade. I have spreadsheets for gear, event daily, and even quest timer. I'm a dragon or a bot: hoarding mounts/companions/AD/and gold (70K), Account-wide items are nice. I like the combat system. Too many chrs is a curse. Have fun.

[@jingtroc23]

I left the game just before the current mod dropped (28 I think), best thing I done for gaming. I got back into playing tons of fun games, like elden ring, vermintide 2, Shantae games, darktide, baldurs gate 3, unicorn overlord, Zelda totk, king Arthur a knights tale etc etc. you said what I said for a long time, that neverwinter has so much potential that they will never meet. So I had to bail, no more waiting for dungeon runs or bugs or bad patches to classes etc. It was my first and last mmo. I will never invest in an mmo again. All say this, if anything neverwinter needs a huge overhaul, it needs skills trees for the classes, not just 6 feats🤷🏿‍♂️... After playing oath of exile and enjoying that skill tree it just killed NW for me. Even games like borderlands 2 the characters have bigger better skill trees. The game needs a reboot and a overhaul of the skill trees.

[@SomeGuy905]

Don't feel too bad! I had 3 accounts with 53 alts on each, that I would invoke every day 1 time (Yes, that's 159 invokes lol). Then, during events with free login rewards that included a free coalescent mote, I have an additional 17 accounts for that (XBox only allows for 10 separate accounts, and I used an old XBox 1 for the additional 10 along side my Series X for the first 10). I would always have 100+ motes on my main account, plus would send augs to the freebie extra ones to upgrade, send back to main acct, and sell for AD. It was my every day routine. I quit because I have not been able to complete a single dungeon or trial since VoS. My 53 year old reflexes, and lack of a permanent group of friends or guildmates, make it impossible to complete any new content. So it was just waiting for the next xpac, doing the required stuff and completing it, without ever being able to run the dungeon for the newer gear. My characters were stuck fully maxed out in every way, but never able to get the Bis gear so I just quit. They tune the dungeons for the best of the best, and make them difficult and challenging for THEM, leaving out the other 95% of the community. I told Aragon a long time ago have fun playing your super fun and challenging game alone, because that is where NW is headed. Seriously, it became like a Dark Souls game for me. Log in, spend an hour trying to find a group, then spend the next 3 hours dead at a campfire. Over and over. RIP Neverwinter!

[@SomeGuy905]

P.S why do you go into your workshop to collect your crafted gear, instead of just using morale to remote collect it every time? That would speed up your process immensely

[@xCRIBBZ]

Make a pally, if I can do aic on a 56k pally, u can do high end content too. Blaming it on not having friends/guild mates is a weird argument too, I pub q or join enclave groups for majority of my dungeons and have no issues. If u feel like you can’t beat the content on your character due to reflexes, pick a different class, wizard and pally are the ones I recommend.

[@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531]

You need to be reported and perma banned out of the game. This will cut out your illusion that having stuff is equal to endgame and your delusion that 53 is old. Plus will make the community better.

[@erevel4473]

Back when I still played I had 53 characters. I just invoked them and didn't bother with professions that much on alts, but running things like events? That was a chore. Like a crazy one. At one point in winter festiwal I checked and had about 2k gifts to give. I would stay for the whole event just to spend them, not to mention switching back and forth between main and alts, taking daily quests and such. By that time my laptop was also really outdated so it took extra time to even load characters (sometimes in trials I literally had 8-15fps...). I really liked the game and would probably still play it to this day if I played like 9 characters max (one for each class). Also, workshop morale? I always wondered if the devs just chose not to upgrade that thing or was it missed. 400 morale / 5 is already a large number. Doing that on 53 characters? Yeeaaah. Sure. Should have made it possible to use those in bulk.

[@mickmuzzmkmz1628]

Even one of every class is too much. By the time you arse about fitting them all out with good gear, a new module drops and makes the gear you were aiming for obsolete, or they do a major rework somewhere, whichs usually just resets the grind. It's like perpetually chasing your tail, which you'll never get. I went from alternating between 13 toons, to playing 4 of my preferred toons, to now, where at this moment, I don't have any desire to play whatsoever.

[@erevel4473]

I did play mostly on 4 mains (wizard, cleric, paladin and warlock), but yeah, I tried to run all campaigns at least on all 9 mains too. As I said. Most of it was a chore.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Make gold as you sleep with Alchemy! Make Potions of Healing Rank 9 in stacks of 12, sell 99 for 29.7 gold! And spamming them remotely for 5 Morale takes FAR less time than visors that do not stack and you have to stop to sell them immediately! I can sell a dozen stacks of Rank 9 Potions of Healing for 356.4 gold every few days to a week or so! On 36 characters, half making Potions and half making Myrrh, that's 6,415.2 gold. You just have to Gather lots of Spring Water, Beehive Chip and Wintergreen Sprig for a week or so to start off, and then make Wintergreen Oil and Honey and one toon making Potions. I have thousands of Spring Water as I used to farm those to feed the Mimic at the Guild, until they nerfed the payback. So I can mail Spring Water to those running out. {:o:O:}

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Oops! When I said one _"toon"_ making potions, I meant 1 ARTISAN Alchemist making potions, the other two making Honey and Wintergreen Oil. And you can have three Gathering Beehive Chip, Wintergreen Sprig and Spring Water. {:o:O:}

[@Horst-vx8kb]

damn the grind. more like a job than a game. respect the dedication. glad i'm a casual. lol

[@rattamytata1970]

I don’t even bother getting the full invoke cycle on my 3 characters it’s too much time while I’m still trying to get my main stronger. Then I have to work on my daily queues which just makes invoking too troublesome. Honestly I wish they just made invoking once per day, that way people might actually participate in the game instead of swapping characters and giving a more flexible schedule for their alts to do whatever they want. I think this game needs some improvement in the story aspect, because the last actually story based module was Ravenloft and the rest have just been beat up the bad guys because bad. Ravenloft was atmospheric and I loved how they tied the campaign to the maguffins you acquire through the quests, it really felt like I was working with the people to take down the baddies. In the recent modules I just feel like I’m being exploited by these organisations to do their work. Like you abduct me from Neverwinter into space to find a way to stop these massive crystals and you constantly give me the same 4 quests until this random princess I don’t care about gets a plan? Like I would happily let Jarlaxle kidnap me but the other npcs are so bland and the npcs have barely any connection to the new content and are just telling me to go somewhere and do something. Remember when the storm giant Serissa would help you at Svardborg and you got to see Xuna brooding at the end? That felt cool that these allies I made through the campaign are actual stakeholders in the conflict. I’m still holding on to Makos’s signet from the fbi introduction quest. (I personally find Kavatos cuter and funnier than Makos, but that’s just me) I liked that Celeste went out and did her own thing in chult and the river district it felt like she finally got a personality. At least vallenhas got Etrien and Avernus had Lulu. Sharandar had no one, dragonslayer and scaleblight summit were just endless grind and Drizzt was just there to use his name in the new underdark campaigns. And wildspace was mentioned above.

[@X17xRJx17X]

I only have 28 and even I get overwhelmed with them all. I told myself I'd stop at X, then the recruitment event rolls around and breaks me lol, but I'm hoping to stay at 28, especially considering 8 of them are lvl 2-5 still. I usually don't have VIP but when I do I'll log in on each daily to at least invoke once and get the VIP bag. Otherwise I honestly only really make use of em all for events mainly, will do daily skirmish/dungeons on various ones for the battle passes once I have all the gear for my main ones from those seals. But yeah otherwise I don't really utilize them for daily things much, I just don't have the drive that I used to with the game. That probably is partially due to the game itself, and also me as a person. Cause I used to like the game a lot more back in the day, and have slowly liked it generally less and less, but I struggle to give it up, not that I'm specifically trying, but i just keep coming back. That being said i understand the sentiment with your thoughts in the video, in the past I would be obsessive about doing various daily things, and it just wasn't healthy. Recognizing that is a big step for sure, when its something thats unhealthy for you. It gets to a point where even if it results in rewards in game, it just isn't worth compromising your real life. And at the end of the day, it should be about having fun! It doesn't help that I put a lot of care into the characters I've made and have since grown attached and maybe that's part of why I keep coming back, who knows. Kinda sad perhaps, but it is what it is lol.

[@0Jsays]

I knew from the title of the last video that quitting was coming....just like I did, I still like to see the videos about the game and what not, but it's just TOO MUCH REPETITION for me. Have to run the same dungeon, play the same zone REPETITIVELY..it's too much of the same after while.

[@Quackyduck47]

❤

[@michaelmartinez9011]

MERC!!!!

[@SeanBotha]

No non bis content since Chris Whiteside era only listening and giving private previewers ruined game's replay ability. A new alt used to be a new adventure taking up to a month to get to Max level then bis only complained and the entire progression system was destroyed to make them happy! Then they refused to do daily quest so the devs listened to bis only players again. 1 hour a week campaigns was introduced. Dungeons and trials used to be the reward now it is the only content and you get 3 tiers of player eternally stuck in 1 of the tiers master adv and normal. Players diversity that used to make the game fun is now damaging the game. The private previews think they are more important than the rest. Discord only content makes it unplayable for most! Devs saying "not meant for everyone" also does not help. The need team must address these issues or the player rot will continue!

[@iAyva]

Agreed! Well said

[@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531]

I take the time to give you a different perspective - making content easy will not bring more players, it will lose the ones that play for the challenge. Who wants easy fun play time can do that now, without amputating the game for the others. You can make your own endgame groups, and if it is a price that you are not willing to pay, then be content with the truth that you do not really want to run master content. Yes, there are some players that got to endgame by being a social butterfly , but they also pay the price of keeping their lords happy and as soon as the group does not function - they are out of the game, most deleting their characters. And for preview- this will be the 2 dungeon without preview, I wonder what excuse you will find. Also, preview is free and beneficial to find out bugs.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Yes, they ripped the guts out of the game. Levelling up was the most fun part, and with three Paragon trees we had much more variation with different builds for the same class. But because the Toxic Elite thought only 1 or 2 builds were "viable" for "End Game", they destroyed them all. But 95% of the game was always Solo Play! {:o:O:}

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

@@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531 *_"preview is free and beneficial to find out bugs. "_* But there is no Test Server on Console, is there? They don't even have the Automatic Combat Logger. {:o:O:}

[@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 And?

[@KJab21512]

Never have to feel snazzy on PC. Just toss the worker on and their tool and press the macro to use all 400 morale crafting. Great way to sit back with the morning coffee and watch some YT. 😂 💀 I really do think they needed to add a "craft all immediately" option. Little one second bar that charges per craft as it feeds the items into your bag.

[@GlennElliottKeller]

They will never add this because they want it to take time by design. No getting rich quick in NW unless you pull your wallet out.

[@Alienodas]

I subscribed because you play Neverwinter There is no reason to quit but reduce your numbers which platform you're playing?

[@dearthditch]

I liked “Piñatas, yadda yadda yadda” 😊

[@eggie011]

An easier way to get gold is invoking on mech altars. I park my 9 toons in Rothe Valley and open 9 altars. Someone else with 52 toons will keep alting and invoking during that 18 mins. He makes about 700 gold daily. It's a lot easier, but of course, you need a friend to pop altars.

[@DarkselRO]

That's crazy tbh, have you quit forever or are you going to come back sometime?

[@iAyva]

No I’ve not quit forever, I still get on and do random things and maybe doing full comeback for mod 29 😊

[@michaelfletcher6669]

I make the bone necklaces

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

I have 3 accounts not a bunch on just 1 because you can get all the free stuff like motes from events etc... on them then mail upgradaable things back to main.

[@saintlucyyyy713]

I spend all my morale during double prof and when gond is coming up to make gold. But im also on pc and can use an suto clicker 😂

[@nicopicolito]

Get the portal stone and open workbench from menu and never go to workhop ever again. I have 13 and there is no way I'm getting more 55 is probably more ad but i wanna play the game aswell man

[@lyzi1792]

Jesus visors? No wonder you quit. Just do rank 9 potions instead 😂

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Exactly! Make gold as you sleep in stacks of 12, sell 99 for 29.7 gold! And spamming them remotely takes FAR less time than visors that do not stack and you have to stop to sell them immediately! I can sell a dozen stacks of Rank 9 Potions of Healing for 356.4 gold every few days to a week or so! {:o:O:} _(Edited for tyops)_

[@GlennElliottKeller]

I used to just load into the sage shop because it’s such a small cell then warp from there. I was doing professions on 6 toons only and I wanted to kill myself (in game, self harm is bad mkay) Eventually I even recruited my girlfriend to help farm it but we both got burnt out and it was only 12 toons between the both of us. Now I just log on my bard to play music. That’s it.

[@user-qd3ec2cn6b]

You don't mention multiple accounts which is far better in terms of wealth, but ultimately 200+ characters over 5+ accounts is also unwieldy.

[@d0n77]

Loading screen freeze, hit start, games and apps, remove neverwinter from quick resume. If reroll tokens don't show up, same fix, remove from quick resume

[@mickmuzzmkmz1628]

The game has some good points, but overall it is just such a glitch ridden, waste of time. Time I can't justify anymore. Not totally quitting, but don't have any real desire to play.

[@onewithluck]

Visors is godawful on inventory... Healing Potions Rank 9. They stack and can be made very fast.

[@SomeGuy905]

Plus remote collect with morale for Pete's sake lmbo

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Exactly! Make gold as you sleep in stacks of 12, sell 99 for 29.7 gold! And spamming them remotely takes FAR less time than visors that do not stack and you have to stop to sell them immediately! I can sell a dozen stacks of Rank 9 Potions of Healing for 356.4 gold every few days to a week or so! {:o:O:}

[@onewithluck]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 i make honey on 4 characters, myrrh on 4, potions and wintergreen oil 2x on everyone elese. When someone gets low on honey I move a 999 stack to them

[@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531]

I can not see how a trial made after an official D&D module can copy anything in the superior mmo. Also I can not see how action combat can copy tab targeting gameplay from the- superior mmo. What do they have in common, white for angel and gold for the Celestia room?

[@magdalenavalentinastegaru8531]

Do you think the superior mmo copies something from d&d? Or copying is good for them because reasons.

[@cuzzican_g6279]

You don't like to cook 😮😮😮

[@danrunny865]

Looks like you turned a video game into a job. When do you think you actually stopped playing and started this chore stuff? I really could not put myself through logging 55 toons. Yuck

[@iAyva]

I've always done the chore stuff in between playing. Running content was always the main priority but when the game is more quiet and less friends were on to play I prioritized doing things like this.

[@T2RIllusion]

got 12 character I dont even connect to more than 2 of them lol people who play this that way are just giving their free time to slave labor its crazy

[@donzokik]

Switch to PC and bind ur „keys”properly

[@HazelTrenare-yv3zn]

Dead game