Let's Talk Football: A much needed bye week

[@billblank4024]

Thanks guys. Always worth listening to your shows..Go Pack Go.

[@kaylporter276]

Best duo for Packer content each week.

[@55Reever]

Packers looked like what they are, a young team.

[@Eaton.beav69]

Same thing we said last year. Year older and making same dumb mistakes can’t use that excuse forever. This is loves 5th year in the league lol

[@clarkbowen8158]

Detroit has the best o-line in football. They are the best team because of it. They can pass at will, Goff has like an 82% completion rate the last five games. More TDs than incompletions. They can run it whenever they need to to salt games away. If the Packers play a clean game it would've been a great game, it wasn't. Time to get back to work and improve, we did it last year, we can do it again. This division is no joke, they need to go at least 3-1 in division games down the stretch. I have faith in Love and this team. GPG!!

[@davidschurman3230]

Maxx Crosby is not a Reggie White, but he would be an exceptional upgrade for the defense.

[@drgnsclwot1447]

This time last year Pack was 3-6, still made it to playoffs and schooled the Cowboys. Now are 6-3. No need to panic. Hope for continued growth. GPG!

[@noskillzleague]

our defense played a hell of a game against arguably the best offense in the league. Held them to 17 pts and only 260 yds.

[@nickdarr7328]

But those numbers are meaningless. What happened after green Bay got within 10? The lions got 1st downs at will and Montgomery slid to stop from scoring a TD. The lions were just killing time and making sure everyone was healthy after their opening score in the 2nd half

[@jerellhurtado9486]

To be fair, had the packers threatened at all, the lions likely woulda stepped on the gas. Lions appeared to be coasting after gaining a comfortable lead and realizing that GB wasn’t a threat.

[@HyzersGR]

It was raining sideways and Detroit took 3 knees in GB’s red zone to end the game. They definitely went into turtle mode most of the 4th quarter as well.

[@russdadda]

@@nickdarr7328I was saying this also. The stats don’t mean anything. If you actually watched the game you’d realize Detroit was in complete control after that pick 6 really.

[@michaelacker1617]

@@jerellhurtado9486The second half defensive play is kind of meaningless to me because the Lions were in coasting mode, but the first half the Packers defense played really well except for the 4th down in the red zone they kept the game in reach until Love threw that horrible pick six.

[@davidschurman3230]

The defense only gave up 17 points, but the Lions backs ran for over 130 yards. Goff and St.Brown picked up first downs at will. The defense is lacking run stopper and edge rushers. GB was outplayed and out coached. The same ole issues week after week.

[@joep.783]

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[@Brad-ey4hb]

How do you incentivize mental toughness? What is it for these players and coaches? Is it integrity, money? Do they need yelling and screaming to motivate? 9 games and we have established patterns; penalties, drops, interceptions, diminished red zone offense. It's tiring as a fan to hear the coaches/player lip service at these pressers. Oh, it was a huge coaching mistake to start J. Love.

[@roasty4400]

As a lions fan I think, from a rival’s perspective, that Jayden Reed will be in Amon Ra territory soon. He’s already really good.

[@nickdarr7328]

But remember those 8 points came after a taunting on lions changed a 4th and 4 to 1st and goal. So even without mistakes green Bay needed a lions mistake to make the game look somewhat respectable

[@kathyaschenbach8081]

Yes but if you look at Sats the Packers actually best them. They lost but take the mistakes out the Packers would have won.

[@nickdarr7328]

@kathyaschenbach8081 look at lions v titans last week Titans had 450 yards to lions 250 but the lions won 52 to 14. If you took the Packers mistakes out of the game the lions would have played an entirely different game and still would have won based on what we saw yesterday. It's just silly to say if you took away the mistakes. The other team causes mistakes. Love didn't hand the ball to kerby Joseph and tell him to run for a lions TD. Stats don't mean anything because you do the simplest plays needed to win. If anything it just shows how easy it was for lions to beat green Bay. They had to do so little to have the game won early 3rd quarter

[@HyzersGR]

@@kathyaschenbach8081the stats say the Lions won 24-14. Yards are meaningless when they aren’t turned into points.

[@martin42382]

For such a young team, they come out flat in the 1st half like 90%, I don't get it...

[@mrjj8669]

The Packers need to finally eliminate the gold package. The Milwaukee fans sell too many of their tickets, and there are way too many opposing fans in Lambeau.

[@darrishill9483]

I think MLF is going to have to simplify the offense a bit. I feel that’s where all the penalties come from. It stems from pre snap adjustments and assignments after the ball is hiked. The offense has to think more than they need to

[@ripack78]

I like Hines Allen from Jags. He’s 27. Has a big deal that maybe Jacksonville wants to get out of. Could send LVn Preston and a 2. He’s got more bend on the edge. Gives nice combo with Gary. Let’s Enagbare/Mosby/Cox be backups. And you have contacts to restructure next year for cap space (Love, X, Jaire, Gary, Jenkins, etc)

[@David-h4d]

Something I noticed the two punters were really battling out there.

[@drgnsclwot1447]

Jordan Love is the star and is the future, but when an entire drive was blown because Jordan couldn't get under backup center for the snap, THAT's when I knew Malik should have been in the game. Backup center in pouring rain and you want shotgun all the time? Nope. We're lucky Love didn't get hurt worse trying to pick the ball off the ground.

[@scooter5940]

I don’t see a Lions team that is more talented than the Packers - the exception being at QB right now where Geoff is a difference-maker. But Detroit is more disciplined, tough-minded, and confident, which reflects well on their coach. The Pack continues to make the same (mostly mental) mistakes, with the boneheaded penalties, drops, and senseless picks. And that reflects on LaFluer. Brilliant offensive mind and a players’ coach, but his teams are undisciplined.

[@leehemmersbach8018]

JLove always gives you the best chance to win... he is a football player afterall

[@leehemmersbach8018]

If this was Favre, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[@jrock8409]

If they let Jordan play with that groin injury, how bad is William’s groin ??? It’s must be torn off the bone !!

[@biffgriffbuford]

6-3 going into the bye its fine GPG

[@andygerth9258]

Does anyone else think the Packers would be better on the road in the playoffs? The sad reality is that Lambeau is not as much of an advantage as it once was. They're not a cold weather and dominate line of scrimmage team. They would lose again to the Lions at home in January. The Packers rely on a dynamic passing offense and they need a dome in January to do that.

[@ripack78]

When are we going to admit the first round picks are so inferior to other division teams. Stokes quay Wyatt and LVN have overall been negative players over the last 4-5 years. Lions Vikings have Sewell JJ Addison Darrisaw Hutchinson Gibbs etc. elite players that produce elite results. Yes Gute can find nice mid round players. But not finding the elite players has hurt this team.

[@evanenglish8635]

I agree with you but aren’t all those players really high draft picks? Like I think every one of those guys the packers didnt have a chance at right?

[@scooter5940]

From an overall personnel perspective, Gutekunst has been pretty good. But yes, too many first-round picks are not really having much impact right now. The book has not yet been written on several of the players you mention, though.

[@ripack78]

@@evanenglish8635yes lions had the benefit of stinking for 10 years to get cracks at those players. Packers rarely get that chance. I wish Gute would trade up sometime to get an elite talent. Not a RAS project

[@evanenglish8635]

@ agreed. The strategy of drafting first round picks that are project players is tough for me to understand. The one time he did trade up in the first, he hit an absolute home run in drafting Jordan Love, so we gotta give him credit for that.

[@pr4737]

Could not agree more. Gutey knocks it out of the park in the mid to late rounds, especially on offense. First rounders though? Agree wholeheartedly.

[@David-h4d]

Packers are better off on the road in the playoffs in domes. I'm rooting for the 6th seed.

[@jimmylegs06]

Boy, these next 5 games are brutal and are going to determine this teams fate

[@mikeb3365]

I'm tired of discussing last year!

[@michaelanderson5442]

Goff threw the ball into the ground when nothing was open, go on to the next play!

[@coreypatterson1007]

Get so tired of hearing oh we held them to 17 i guess people forgot that it was shitty weather we had a simple game plan we wasnt going to throw it all over and you guys forget it was 24-3 at one time if we scored one more touchdown game would have been over even sooner but people ignore that and your touchdown was a 🗑️ time touchdown!

[@redx4361]

therapy

[@Janeo7404]

Not so sure they beat the Bears now

[@jerellhurtado9486]

Almost ready to turn the page on Jordan and roll with Malik. Malik is more talented anyway.

[@Tulio_Fonseca]

0:13 you know losing, man?!? It's WAY worse than winning. There you go, Nags

[@haydenperkins9982]

Let’s be real guys quay should not have been the starter in that game. Not a controversial opinion

[@freddieroper6458]

Jenkins was azz in this game

[@Packers2010]

They beat us up pretty bad, the refs definitely rolled with the Lions, that’s no excuse. If that was a measuring stick game we came up short 📏📏

[@tomb2429]

Anybody ready to talk about Laf's shittily coached unfocused and undisciplined team? Put another way, anybody ready to talk about what a shitty HC Laf actually is?

[@Captainkebbles1392]

Only if you're stupid:)

[@doughensley9314]

Yep, I am. I’m sick of watching us make the same mistakes over and over, Matt’s teams constantly show up and they’re not ready to play, we don’t even start playing until the 2nd half of every game.

[@tomb2429]

@@doughensley9314 Watery Bowels V the good teams...I saw Sean Rhyan said "We're trying to do too much on O"-----Laf's big little ego turning Love into a basket case---I could say a ton more----suffice to say, dude's WAY TOO CAUGHT UP in janky play design as OC, than actually performing as a HC for entire team----one more observation re: "genius" ego----since Love is "his guy", he can't stand the thought of winning "grind it out" games w/ Willis at the controls-----AND certainly not that play style w a hobbled, or otherwise, Love----notice how the true geniuses like Andy Reid make things easy for their QB's? IMO, Love would be Goff effective and efficient if Laf's head was in the "bread and butter" space----As it stands now, this guy can't even get his team to stop playing dumb---his panicky gravy-pants filter down to the whole team, but namely the O---Apparently, his buddy Bobby Selah isn't having much positive effect as of yet----Laf is not a SB caliber HC-----Frankly, I'm sick of him----It's one thing to lose to a better team----but to be outclassed on discipline and mental mistakes? That's on the HC 💯

[@renz4738]

Two bozos here