Let's Test if Big Brakes Are Worth Your Money!

[@moscaman559]

I’m running the Stage 1 Power brake kit on my 2022 Tacoma with a Four Wheel camper on the back. I’m running Fox 2.5 all the way around with Tundra shocks in the rear. Deaver stage 3 springs, 5.29 gears, tune and more added weight. I changed out to the big brake kit mainly for safety, braking distance and heat dissipation. I do a lot of backcountry fly fishing in the mountains of the USA and am constantly running up and down steep mountain and backcountry roads. I highly recommend the big brake kit but you need 17” wheels so the calipers won’t rub. Weighted rigs weren’t designed for the braking loads put on by aftermarket parts, etc. Do whatever you can to make your rig safe so you can continue to enjoy the backcountry or wherever ! The cost of the kit is a bit steep, but your safety is more important 👍🏼

[@OverlandOutfitters]

Thanks for watching! We weren't sponsored at all for this video, but if you'd like to buy the Power Brake kit, please consider purchasing from us if you're in North America! Links in description!

[@stevenk805]

Time between brake tests needs to standardized so we can measure brake fade between the two. Just use chalk or paint, then measure after all 3 tests are done… not that you’re going to do the test again.😂

[@othoapproto9603]

Thanks, so glad you made the point about long down hill breaking. I planning my build now and ready to spend 20 to 30k but Powerbrake price surprised me, however it's a must. Not going to be that guy that only buy bling. I may install a Thermistor on each caliper and monitor it with an Arduino.

[@TacoBruso]

You and the team have outdone yourselves again! I guess i have to start saving. Thanks for putting up the video and doing the test. Helps knowing 5he investment is not just for pretty red calipers. Look forward to the next one !!

[@markbelanger5754]

Put their d line kit on my LC200. Huge difference over stock after i added a bunch of weight to the vehicle. So glad i upgraded. Nice video. Agree about the long downhills

[@danielhrechka5609]

Totally agree Mark, amazing difference ah ! 👍👍

[@haileyelise8490]

Super dialled information in this video, great work guys!

[@skrinix]

i will say - bite performance yes, but it’s more about brake cooling. may be worth testing with full wait down a grade to test fade over time

[@OverlandOutfitters]

Would have loved to if I had more time

[@stevenk805]

4:30 that’s a SUPER interesting observation!

[@canyonoverland5003]

10:20 That's good the truck is saving weight on the calipers, but what's the added weight of the larger rotors?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

The OE caliper/rotor combo come in at 37.5lb per side, and the X-Line caliper/rotor combo come in at 37lb per side, so much bigger and marginally lighter. If you really want to save more weight, you can run a two piece rotor with the aluminum center, and it will save an additional 5-6lb over the stock rotor.

[@InGratitudeIam]

Wilwood 6-Piston Kit with upgraded rotors are excellent. It would be interesting to see how these compare.

[@OverlandOutfitters]

If I could afford to buy them all and do some intensive testing I would!

[@TheKmkmchannel]

@@OverlandOutfitters Big shop big spender LOL

[@dadgarage7966]

What do the larger rotors weigh?

[@IssaqAl-Ahmed]

Worth mentioning that big brake kits will not provide stopping distance improvements if your current braking system isn't overloaded. On a non-overloaded vehicle, stopping distance usually improves most with and increase in tire contact patch . Generally speaking, if you just threw these on to a stock vehicle you likely wouldn't see anywhere near as big of a stopping distance difference improvement. Not all vehicles are equal, but generally that should be the case. +1 the closing comment about brake fade, big brake kits 100% should help there over stock. More thermal mass and usually better venting.

[@RustyOlive]

Interesting seeing how much bigger the rotors were. Curious now. Will 16” TRD Baja rims still fit with these kits or does one have to upsize their rims to fit?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

That is a caveat I probably should have mentioned, you need 17s to fit

[@RustyOlive]

@@OverlandOutfitters well dam.. that changes a few things.. 🤣

[@mattgill69]

I have a 2018 Nissan titan with 17” Method 701s. I can’t fit a big brake kit as they require 18s and no one makes one anyways. What can I do?

[@leehoese4337]

What’s available for 16” wheels?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

Power Brake's D-Line rotor/pad combo is amazing

[@kingjimmykingjimmy]

Upgraded Pads and rotors are fine for most rigs.

[@DonFuller-yn9xl]

Man you guys are good. What do you think about death wobble between 55-65mph? Is it control arm bushings like some have said? I've read and watched everything what do you guys say?

[@calebtuaiti5114]

I’d love to get more first gen stuff on the site. I wanna support Canadian companies.

[@robbarber7253]

Prepare to pay Canadian prices $$$$

[@DucomaVet]

No rotor conversions for the drums in that back? Bet that would improve stopping distance way more.

[@Russianmafia10]

80% of braking comes from the front so the rear brakes are more than enough

[@JT052]

Should try the 4runner brakes to see if they actually make a difference

[@OverlandOutfitters]

I ran them on my truck for a couple years, they are so marginally better, but I never back to back stop tested them. Didn't love the pedal feel though

[@4xhoser]

I feel like if you upgrade the front discs then you should upgrade to the same size discs in the rear, I bet that’d make even bigger of a difference 🇨🇦🤘 great video guys!

[@OverlandOutfitters]

80% of your braking power comes from the front, so most people I know who have done the disc swap on their tacos have said it didn't help much

[@AndrewKumler]

Wish they made a 1st Gen Taco kit. Great video.

[@DavidBarros-kl8lt]

I have a 22 Highlander and I’ve been searching for big brakes but I can’t find something that may fit. Everything is mostly for Tacoma, 4Runner & Tundra any suggestions & if possible what the correct size or fit would be best

[@morganyoung146]

Can confirm if you push the stock brakes the rotors will warp Had to drive down a mountain in 2wd due to damage to the front cv's and I warped both my front rotors. Wish I had a big brake kit 😂

[@pleinairbarnettoutdoors]

Is there not retrofit options from the 1st or 2nd gen Tundra, to swap on Tacoma?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

that's a 1st gen tacoma thing, where you can swap the 1st gen tundra brakes.

[@stay_in_adventure]

How much are the brake pad replacements?

[@TimPaddy]

Did you travel in metric speed, but measure in foot distance?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

you know we did hahaha that's how we roll in Canada. We're so confused.

[@spindrift2719]

From 99’ to 70’ is almost 30% increase is pretty good

[@genegerland5518]

How can I get one of those shirts??? Oh great video lol!

[@jaysonyang1441]

Love you guys❤

[@sorryociffer]

The BIGGEST benefit is less brake fade and more “bite” over repeated or prolonged use. Shorter distances isn’t the only potential benefit.

[@OverlandOutfitters]

100%! I talked about this in the video 😉

[@sorryociffer]

@@OverlandOutfittersSorry, jumped the gun. Only 1/2 in so far. I assume you also bring up master cylinder impact on the upgrade.

[@beadblaster9508]

It would be interesting to see if a brake pad change on the stock caliper would make a difference. Trying different ebc brake pads and a few other ones.

[@OverlandOutfitters]

@@beadblaster9508 I would love to do that! The Power Brake D-Line set up is rotor and pads, and i did install them on a customer truck with a camper on, and he is stoked on the difference it made.

[@sorryociffer]

@@beadblaster9508 It definitely can, but even that can have other consequences. It’s a fascinating aspect of a car to experiment with. I had genuine Brembo calipers on my old Malibu LTZ 2.0 turbo. All else being the same, I didn’t so much see “harder” or “shorter” stops but if I was driving aggressively on hills, which we have a lot off, the brakes were much more consistent.

[@OscarOverlanding]

Very cool! Thank you!

[@codychilders8307]

Considering the advantages $1k for a set of excellent brakes isn't that big of a deal considering people buy rooftop tents over a traditional ground tent... Or just sleeping in the truck itself. Kinda a no brainer. When it comes time you'll have my money for these.

[@robbarber7253]

They're $4087 before tax not including install. $1k in the world of "overlanding" maybe gets you a little sticker pack for your back window 😂

[@nodashipl]

ya'll going to make more shock value videos?

[@OverlandOutfitters]

Deep in the edit cave as we speak!

[@dave1534]

OK, I am not the smartest, but figured I will ask to embarrass myself anyways. If I were to purchase these for the 4Ruunner, do I only need two (for the front rotors only), or all four?

[@NathanSwart-l4g]

From what I hear, the big brake kit is only from the front. But guys do their D-line for the rear

[@OverlandOutfitters]

the fronts do 80% of the braking. I don't think you'd see a huge improvement with the rear's, so just a rotor/pad setup would do great.

[@christianpeters6579]

$4k for 10ft is nuts

[@OverlandOutfitters]

like i said at the end of the video, youre actually paying $4k to not lose your brakes entirely on a big decent, or under heavy braking situations. Especially with these big heavy built trucks that have poor braking performance to begin with. As far as stopping distances, if you're comparing worst to worst, the improvement was still 15', which is a 15% improvement which is pretty solid honestly.

[@TacoBruso]

I'm going to start saving now because 10 ft on Highway 401 might save my life or more importantly my family's!!

[@robbarber7253]

Yeah not worth it imo

[@explore_off_road]

With regards to Braking... Who cares what a racer or track day person would do. So yours is good... It's more real world. More like the average everyday person .... And they aren't racers. Good job!

[@brians-space]

sold!! 😆

[@brians-space]

Def next upgrade for our Taco/Fleet combo

[@dixonbuttes6564]

It would be a lot more worth it to get under GVWR … 😉 all that heavy Jellystone campground junk (“overlanding gear”) really adds up quick, eh Booboo? 🐻

[@TwistedOmYoga]

More like dixINbutt 😂😂😂😂 jealous ?

[@RT-ch6mo]

0% for this compare, you are comparing used factory brake with brand new brake, compare & review doesn't compare in this way specialty for Brake means family & public safety????? this video is advertised to make top $ and ( we have it ) to sell.