Toyota Tacoma Brake Rotors Performance Test. Are they worth it?

[@robertw.gonzales8025]

Thanks for this information. I am 75 and have been off-roading since I was a kid with my parents in a 55 Ford sedan. We fished in Baja Calif down to LA Bay in a 2 wheel drive with no ground clearance. As an adult I have hunted small and large game. I bought a 1970 Ford F100 2 wheel drive and added a rear locker. Later I went with 2000 4x4 Tacoma extended cab. Brakes sucked in all of them. Just finished rebuilding my 2000 Tacoma with frt/Er lockers, rebuilt my 5spd trans, Merlin Crawler and transfer case. New rear driveline. Bigger brakes are next. Bought a 2017 TRD 4x4 Offroad double cab. 60k on it now. As stated before the front brakes are undersized for the stock trucks. I tow an enclosed box trailer with my camping gear, fishing or hunting gear, tent and miscellaneous equipment. It all adds up in weight Hauling all my stuff cross country on hunting trips in adverse weather ANYTHING that improves your ability to slow down or to stop in an emergency is a tremendous benefit. I greatly appreciate Tacomabeast sharing ALL the test information they have presented. Looking forward to the rear disc brake kit!

[@tacomabeast]

Hey robert! We’re glad we could help! 🤟

[@darthvader1482]

Girl: Where is he right now? He must be cheating... Me and da bois:

[@tacomabeast]

😂😂

[@BrentRivers]

The brake fade is more important than the stopping distance because of predictable results. this convinced me to upgrade

[@Michael_Tran]

Dang...that red caliper looks dope! I've replaced mine as well and noticed a better stoppage power.

[@loganfurst3010]

I have stoptech rotors drilled and slotted and hawk pads street performance and they are a noticeable increase in performance from stock for about 300 dollars cheers tacoma people

[@bepbep7418]

Detroit Axle also makes a nice drilled and slotted kit

[@Soknik01]

30 foot reduction? Damn, I was not expecting that kind of improvement. Nicely done.

[@UrbanOpsOffRoad]

Great video dude! Cool that you guys put it to the test and gather data. The beast is getting professional AF. Cheers!

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks bro! 💪

[@Humboldt710]

It's a nice looking kit, but seems like a lot of modification for such an expensive upgrade. It would be great to see this test with a set of StopTech rotors and quality pads to compare.

[@tacomabeast]

The OEM kit was a fresh new set

[@Kojima93]

@@tacomabeast with rust and grime built up into it... no it wasn't.

[@johnnymartinez478]

@@Kojima93 ya idk why he was lying

[@asymsolutions]

Donut media did said test with their 350z's in their hi-low series. Check it out.

[@asymsolutions]

@@johnnymartinez478 those rotors if OEM are pretty fresh, mine showed rust on the hat and veins within 3 weeks of ownership. Honestly the slight increase you'll see between a 10K set and brand new set isn't going to change heatsoak enough in most tests to make a difference. It's why pads/new rotors alone isn't a great idea. That heat being dumped into the rotor has to be extracted or you'll just end up with fade still. So in humbolt's suggestion, depending on pad you will see anywhere from an increase or decrease in first stop performance as the pads get up to temperature, and then an increase in most likely the 2nd, 3rd and MAYBE if it's a hot temp pad 4th test. After that performance will fall off like a nose dive. Most OEM brake systems are not designed for continous braking, so you will need to decide if you will be doing enough to require it. Also their test on the aftermarket set is on point in expected results. Those pads are probably a high temp pad meant for performance driving where there is constant use. So it is expected for the pads to come alive after a few runs and hold performance as they get into range and the braking cooling cycle stabilizes them.

[@007diego2]

Solid video. Guess I need to upgrade my brakes now. I never liked them anyway. Never felt really comfortable with stopping power even when it was brand new. I took it back to the dealer twice thinking that maybe there was something wrong with the brakes. But it's just the way the fifth GEN is. Test drove three others exact same thing. They tell me that Toyota engineered them that way. I like brakes to feel tight. Responsive. predictable, and consistent.

[@xxkaiserxx2505]

Mateo bro I miss you finally you released a video now I’m waiting for the Milky Way part 3 ☺️

[@fishtacoma]

Didn’t the “Milky Way” series already finish, though?

[@HoglundOverland]

@@fishtacoma it did

[@richardsveum8452]

Brakes aren't good on a stock Taco, Can't imagine how bad they are on a truck that weighs 1k over stock.

[@tacomabeast]

The more reason to replace them if you’re doing bigger rigs🤙

[@lGuileWilliamsl]

One thing to note on your test is the rear brake failure may have affected the 3rd test as the pressure for the brake system would have dropped and affected your stopping distance. Probably would not have made a big difference given you did an average but it is worth noting since this is a scientific test. Great work!

[@tacomabeast]

Thats a really good point bro!

[@master6435]

Also the problem with going larger calipers and rotors in a extreme off road environment sand can get trapped in the barrel of the wheel which an sand the calipers down causing failure

[@tacomabeast]

That’s a good point! Gotta make sure to watch for sand often 🤙

[@ericryan9189]

I went with the Stop Tech kit with braided stainless lines. Did fronts and rears. Thinking that getting rid of the drums was a huge improvement as were the new hi performance pads.

[@tacomabeast]

Yes! We noticed that the rear drums were a big issue mid shoot (as you saw from the vid 😂) , and now we’re working with Alcon to make a rear disk conversion kit 💪

[@ericryan9189]

@@tacomabeast My truck is five hundred pounds heavier than yours. 33’s, 4.88 gears and Magnusson SUpercharger. Don’t know if I would have done supercharger if I hadn’t done the brakes.

[@tacomabeast]

Yeah we found out the hard way that we needed to swap out the rear drums 😂

[@brandonakers9827]

I could tell it was gonna help, because if you can't lock your tires than you should upgrade your brakes

[@JasonTarango]

The ABS is there so the brakes CAN’T lock up the tires. That’s the vibration in the pedal from ABS pulsing the brake lines.

[@jhonchacin2695]

I would like to see you change out the rear drum for rotors.

[@tacomabeast]

We’re actually exclusively working with Alcon to make a drum conversion kit for the rear drums! 🤙

[@robertblack6630]

@@tacomabeast that's would awesome so far the only way is to use the helix rear disc system which is costly but easy to do

[@Annon89]

That’s a great test that helps out a lot on buying larger brakes for the taco

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks bro!

[@azamshakoor3098]

Just amazing detailed video covering all the aspects when it's come to breaking of the beast the Tacoma beast ,, cool job guys,,, have fun,, be safe,, 👌🇮🇳

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks bro!

[@chrisnelson3802]

So you are comparing a brand new aftermarket kit to an old OEM kit with how many miles🤔 Toyota brakes are high quality especially because they are designed for a stock truck. I’m running mine with 37” krawlers no issues

[@jayling8086]

Don’t lie them 37” tires you gottah plan way ahead when you stopping 🤣

[@tacomabeast]

The OEM kit was a fresh new set, we wanted this to be as fair as possible.

[@ANTupLIFE]

I'm not lifted, but have 113k on mine and haven't had any issues yet. Looks like I'll get another 20-30k on them.

[@simpletacoma]

Are you going to change the rear breaks to Disk? That’ll help out a lot as well

[@tacomabeast]

Coming soon!

[@rattlecanpaint]

I talked the company that builds the brakes for the factory toyota Dakar rally trucks (Power Brake) and they said that when they added rear disks the rear end would rotate, (like using the coaster brake on your old BMX bike as a kid) so they recommended against doing the swap. They actually went back to the rear drums.

[@emmettgonzalez1565]

I spoke to the same guy, he said they wouldn’t really benefit

[@stevenkhan4344]

$2500…. Wouldn’t it be better to just replace the rear drum w disc brakes?

[@tacomabeast]

Why not both 🤷‍♂️

[@nottherealjk]

Nice to see Alcon's being used. They make some heavy duty kits for the LC. I'd love to see if these would fit my T4R.

[@HoglundOverland]

Big brakes for the win, great job on the video guys!

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks bro!

[@moonlander_pro2281]

These breaks are so sick!!

[@billjmike7750]

Awesome vid!! More great upgrades for the Taco.

[@jhonchacin2695]

It be a good test to see your truck with all it's gear and test it

[@Jrerecich]

oh so now 2 inches is considered a lot... Great build. Brakes look sick, man!

[@tacomabeast]

😂😂😂

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

It would help a little if your wheels weren't on the line. Those painted lines have reduced traction. It's why they tell motorcyclist to not ride on the lines/stripes.

[@longrangevoodoo4480]

Excellent video. Well done, guys.

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks bro 🤙

[@ChrisMcCarroll]

im sold. definitely need these

[@nickestanislao8961]

Heavy load on your vehicle means that you have to modify your brakes to have a sufficient stopping power

[@kennypowerz1267]

I would switch out the stock brake line, and replace it with a steel braided brake line....they are nice lookin trucks ....too bad the rust issues still persist. Smh

[@tacomabeast]

That’s a great idea tbh never thought about it

[@PointShiftDrive]

how much does the Alcon kit weigh more than the OEM stuff?

[@tacomabeast]

Weight difference is around 40 lbs overall (counting both sides)

[@suetaylor1127]

The more you do it the better you should do. The kit takes a minute to brake in, get it brake in?

[@tacomabeast]

Hahaha that was a good one!

[@semperfi1214]

I'm sold. Thanks for the video

[@tacomabeast]

Glad you liked it!

[@lnto]

Good Test 👌 👏 😌

[@cab1198]

My Alcon I hugged my box's . Thanks FedEx for the delivery. 🤘

[@tacomabeast]

😂

[@markmay8942]

This is one of the best brake comparison tests I have seen. How about a similar test with the new Powerbrake D Line pad and rotor kit against OEM? Is the D line a cost effective alternative?

[@tacomabeast]

We’ll look into it!

[@cab1198]

Thank you Black Friday.

[@adamrigsby878]

What happened to your summit Dakar wheels

[@tacomabeast]

We have those on the other taco 🔥

[@timc2745]

How come noone is talking about upgrading to the Toyota 13.4 inch brakes from a 4runner sport and I think its the Tacoma sport or even Tundra (even bigger). I upgraded to the 13.4 from a tacoma on my 07 4runner. Only have to remove or modify the dust covers super easy. Also the 4runner rear disks setup should fit I'm not sure of the details but pretty sure it bolts on if you get all the parts

[@tacomabeast]

We haven’t heard of doing this, and we’re not really sure if they’re compatible, which is why we worked with Alcon to develop this kit 🔥

[@timc2745]

@@tacomabeast Do you even forum bro?

[@erictech201]

I’m buying these! Can’t wait to install them

[@philandrews6300]

amazing wow! thank you for the detailed video !!

[@astrogreenarrow]

Should u do this first in a overland project or no

[@tacomabeast]

It depends, it definitely is a huge upgrade and will help you overlanding but there are other upgrades that would be more important like sliders or skid plates 🤙

[@johnnytab1133]

My dad have a tacoma and you are cool ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks Johnny! 💪

[@nameless5r]

Is nice but my truck comes with 16" wheels.....😕 Can't fit this kit and I don't want 17" wheels...

[@tacomabeast]

That makes sense 🤙

[@shirolee]

Amazing video!!!

[@trevorj.8401]

Do they make a set for the back? I bet if you had a set of both I would think you'd have even better performance.

[@tacomabeast]

That’s the next experiment, in this video we where testing for the front only.

[@ronmurphy4234]

@@tacomabeast Check out this Toyota engineer attempting to answer the question "Why Does The 2020 Toyota Tacoma Still Have DRUM Brakes? We Ask The Chief Engineer To Find Out! - KZbin" kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnaviXyrmciYrZI

[@kenmarapese9085]

Would have preferred to see the new Alcon's tested against new OEM's.

[@tacomabeast]

That’s exactly what you just saw. The OEM kit was a fresh new set.

[@kenmarapese9085]

Must not have been paying attention to that part of the vid, sorry.

[@Carlos_ADiaz]

For brake fade … was the OEM brakes new also?

[@tacomabeast]

Yep! We replaced them before shooting the video🤙

[@tonisubagja4874]

Attention to aLL car expert. Just using water to cooL down disc brake & brake pad. I suggest about a miliLiter per minute dropping on disc brake directly is very safe whilLe traveling more than 100 mph. to prevent faiL brake due to overheating. Or simply apply radiator on brake pad / disc brake. BECAUSE SAFETY IS EVERYTHING. .. especially those very heavy duty truck

[@tacomabeast]

Thanks for the tip!

[@vd2597]

Are you ever going to do a review video on the eibach pro kit stage 1 you ran. Been waiting for that video for awhile. I just ordered the eibach pro kit stage 2 coilover system and I really don't want to be disappointed with the performance. Was hoping to get some insight from your review video but it never came

[@tacomabeast]

We’ll add it to the list for sure! In the mean time if you want some insight on performance feel free to contact our support team at [e-mail] and ask for Dustin, he’ll be happy to help you 🤙

[@craig9069]

The skid pate you have on the truck is stock? Where can I purchase one? Great video!

[@tacomabeast]

It’s CBI, you can find it on our website here: tacomabeast.com/products/2005-2021-toyota-tacoma-cbi-full-skid-plates?_pos=3&_sid=6b2ff25c9&_ss=r

[@cmartin0011]

Brakes on my stock 2019 tacoma are better than any chevy i have been in. Tho 06 impala with power stop drilled slotted rotors all around with best pads they had nearly tear your head off. Drums in the back is BS. Look to up grade my tacos brakes for its first upgrade

[@cp-ip7vn]

Mine stops like a freight train, gotta down shift if i need to stop abruptly

[@Do-UR-Research2749]

How about a comparison of these Alcon against Stop Tech?

[@tacomabeast]

That’s a good idea! We might have to test that out 💪

[@russellwood8750]

Interesting video and I do love the new brakes. However I did have a thought the OEM brake system was on there for years I think it might’ve been much closer if it was a brand new system so although the new brakes are great I don’t think it is a complete fair comparison. Fun video to watch all the same though.

[@tacomabeast]

We did swap the OEM system for a new one before testing it we wanted to make it as fair as possible 🙌

[@russellwood8750]

@@tacomabeast oh wow that's pretty cool then you might have said it in the video maybe I missed it I'll have to check it out again if not you probably should have said that in the video. But hey we're only human we can think of everything LOL.

[@tacomabeast]

Yeah we probably missed that 😂😂

[@MrCdrant]

@@tacomabeast Then why were the rotors so old? We can see the video man, why not just be transparent?

[@timc2745]

Sorry to step on your $ game but. 13WL calipers check Tacoma forums OEM bolt on. Will work unless you added too much weight then go with this kit or Rotora 14" kit that has been out for years

[@sti_217marin3]

Is there one available for the 2006 year model ??

[@tacomabeast]

Not currently, but we’re working on it

[@Clanc54R]

How do you think this would compare to installing a set of 5th gen 4Runner brakes on the Taco?

[@tacomabeast]

That’s a great question, we might have to put that to the test

[@Clanc54R]

@@tacomabeast that'd be awesome. The OEM 4runner parts would probably be quite a bit cheaper.

[@Thatbcyota]

Were the oem calipers and rotors new like the Alcons were? 🤔

[@tacomabeast]

Yup! We replaced them before the video 🤙

[@gablamo013]

You ran an OEM kit that’s seen tens of thousands of miles of off-road abuse, cross country travel, and weather against a brand new aftermarket kit. IMO shoulda I stalled new pads & rotors that were OEM then proceeded with the test.

[@tacomabeast]

We installed a new oem kit before running the tests to make it a fair fight 🙌

[@gablamo013]

@@tacomabeast shit did I miss that in the video 😂 guess that’s what I get for watching while doing an oil change

[@mikaelhuostila4005]

When can we get a build walk-around on the Tacomabeast rig?

[@tacomabeast]

Who would interview us tho? 😂

[@marcelocrivelli223]

Great test!

[@luke8646]

This is only the front correct? How much do they cost? Thanks.

[@tacomabeast]

The front swap is on our website for $2300 we are working on a rear disk conversion kit for the rear drums

[@frankochoa9091]

What did he do to the engine to make it sound like that? It’s bad ass!!!!

[@tacomabeast]

It’s got a supercharger in it 🤙

[@itsmejona5938]

Question I was driving around 40-50mph and then I started breaking for a stop sign and my truck had trouble breaking it kinda made a sound and it would break and then move forward 3 times not sure why it only had 7k miles

[@tacomabeast]

Sometimes the disk breaks slip, although I would get that checked out because its very rare and could also mean your break fluid line is leaking somewhere

[@itsmejona5938]

@@tacomabeast thanks for the info

[@blckarts7161]

Is there a way I can upgrade mines without idk cutting off metal ?

[@umanaal]

I wanna see more on mateos 2nd gen taco

[@tacomabeast]

It’s coming soon 👀

[@chrisringhoff61]

Why don't you add a new dust cover that fits?

[@tacomabeast]

We Are working on that!

[@805gregg]

How about the rear drum brakes?

[@tacomabeast]

We’re working on rear disk conversion kit with Alcon 🤙

[@bradd5509]

So did you have to put your wheel spacers back on?

[@tacomabeast]

We didn’t have to but we did and it fit both ways 🤙

[@joereyna614]

Has the "Shops that we trust" been removed from the site? I just checked it and nada

[@tacomabeast]

We’re working on updating it!

[@stevepatch1809]

Did you replace the shoes and drums on both sides or just the one that broke

[@tacomabeast]

Both sides 🙌

[@DavidLee-uv4dv]

Nice looking breaks but I feel you shouldn’t have to modify anything to put them on…

[@jamess303]

For the Toyota Tacoma, would it be more beneficial to just get the TRD Pro and start customizing from there or a lesser trim level? I understand the TRD Pro isn't "required" persay but, does it help more to start there and build on or to just get a lower trim?

[@tacomabeast]

It might make your customization a bit easier, and it does come with some perks like the CRAWL control but ultimately you can build an SR5 just as nice as you can build a TRD pro 🙌

[@robertblack6630]

Lower trim if you are doing a build otherwise your throwing away your money. If you want leather get a off-road to build from but if just want base build start with a SR v6 4x4. You have well over 10k to build a better truck. Honestly the best way to build a true Taco for the wild... Good luck

[@jamess303]

Thanks guys, super appreciative. Wife and I are nurses and have minimal vehicle modification experience haha but super interested and love the outdoors.

[@ChrisMcCarroll]

@@jamess303 just curious if you and your wife ever started the build?

[@rons4947]

Wow gonna love this!

[@christopheralexander5121]

Do they have a kit for the 5th gen 4runners?

[@tacomabeast]

Alcon might, however the kit we have with them is just for Tacomas

[@sportturismo_4s]

Which model year of the tacoma are worth buying used?

[@tacomabeast]

It depends on preference tbh most tacos will have really good engines regardless of usage so it’s all up to how you like each gen, some people prefer second gens and some prefer third gens

[@hokuinsai4299]

Does Alcon make a brake kit for a 2015 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab?

[@tacomabeast]

The brake kit should fit the 2015 but just in case feel free to contact our support team at [e-mail] and they’ll be happy to give you some data on that! 🤙

[@CP-fz4sr]

Its a nice setup, and great from what Im seeing. But for $3000, thats a VERY expensive upgrade IMO.

[@tacomabeast]

Comparatively I think it makes sense, it’s the same as buying a front and back bumper for your taco and it boosts the performance 🤷‍♂️

[@rattlecanpaint]

How much would it cost if you needed to stop 30 feet sooner to avoid running into something (or worse yet someone)? $3 grand then becomes worth every penny. Any money spent on better brakes is worth it.

[@davisbrown7509]

Why not convert rear to disc brakes?

[@tacomabeast]

It’s coming, stay tuned

[@Reverend1776]

Any idea if this will work on 5th gen 4runners?

[@tacomabeast]

The kit was made for tacos so we haven’t tested it on 4runners but it might 🤷‍♂️

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

Do they work with trd 17” wheels?

[@tacomabeast]

Yep!

[@Justy42069]

I noticed that his mileage was just over 69420, nice :D

[@tacomabeast]

😂

[@jayo5888]

Like some guy said why you want your tacoma to go more than 100mph well my sport Tacoma goes 125 . Stock brakes . Dont see why you would want to brake fast if the truck doesn't go past 90mph for him .

[@tacomabeast]

I mean having to brake fast to prevent an accident is always a possibility, and even at 90mph with a heavy truck it’s still a lot of force 🤷‍♂️

[@jayo5888]

@@tacomabeast I agree just making fun of the other guy that was saying why would you want a 100+mph truck . But I like the video thumbs up. !

[@HARDMASADA]

why not use tundra brakes on the truck?

[@tacomabeast]

We worked with Alcon to develop this kit for tacos so you don’t have to use the tundra ones 😂, but i don’t see why that’s a bad idea though 😂

[@brokenwrench404]

I hate drum brakes. Does anyone make a decent rear disk brake conversion?

[@tacomabeast]

We’re working with Alcon to make one for the Tacoma 🤙

[@Roodah1015]

How many miles do the stock brakes have on them? I noticed about 60k on the truck.

[@tacomabeast]

We replaced the stock brakes before the test! 🤙

[@Roodah1015]

Nice - My apologies if I missed that detail.

[@ronmurphy4234]

Did you need to replace the break reservoir to handle the larger calipers?

[@master6435]

Shouldn't this test also be done on a stock tacoma not every tacoma would have 35s?

[@tacomabeast]

Not sure it’s a significant enough difference to test it 🤷‍♂️

[@master6435]

@@tacomabeast no a factory prerunner has a 31s 35s has take more energy to stop the same as needing more energy to start

[@harisyoung4110]

what size tyre is it on your tacoma ? 35 or 37inch ?

[@tacomabeast]

35 🤙

[@salvadorgutierrez2108]

Wow Rear too??

[@tacomabeast]

We’re working with Alcon for the rear disc conversion kit 🙌

[@salvadorbahenajr8674]

Hey TB! what do yo do for living?

[@tacomabeast]

We run Tacomabeast.com your one stop shop for everything Toyota Tacoma

[@Relyk711]

Nice work guys! What's the weight difference on OEM vs Alcan?

[@tacomabeast]

Estimated weight difference would be around 60 lbs give or take

[@tpharo34]

Cool video

[@wickedgames8768]

Can fit on first gen sequoia?

[@tacomabeast]

These were specifically made for the Toyota Tacoma 🤙

[@woodduck614]

? HOW OLD WAS THE OEM BRAKES? BEFORE YOU TESTED THEM!

[@tacomabeast]

We replaced them with newer OEM brakes prior to testing 🤙

[@jamessaunders760]

Now you just need rear disc brakes to match, in the middle of a rear disc conversion via Explorer axle on my Ranger. Can't wait to feel the difference!

[@tacomabeast]

We’re actually working with Alcon to make a rear disc conversion for the taco!

[@henrybrar]

1:11 Dude with full tank it says 249 miles to empty. Jesus.

[@tacomabeast]

It’s brutal out here

[@JimmyDeSantagta]

DUDE!!!! My tacoma is STOCK and my full tank is 265.