Lethal Gaming Gear Venus Review: A More Balanced Hybrid Pad

[@MasXeG]

Really appreciate your reviews, I recently began diving into the mousepad world and reviewing all the different pads and what they have to offer. I’ve watched so many different reviews - i find yours the most helpful. I was hoping you could help point me in the right direction for what I’m looking for. I’ve been switching between the qck and zero soft. I like both pads, qck is just a touch slower than what I’d prefer but I appreciate the feedback I get from the pad where with the zero the pad is a touch fast with (Atleast for me) not a lot of feedback. It seems like most textured pads are going to be faster or as fast as the zero, but was curious if there is any I’m missing or are unaware of. Appreciate the informative videos!

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Unfortunately, there aren’t that many pads that are both textured like a hybrid and moderatly high in friction. The xten control is the only pad I’ve tried that fits this bill and I haven’t heard of anything else either. Even then, that pad is still only slightly slower than the zero and ludicrously expensive. The sense CTRL seems like it could be promising as well but I’ve heard horrible things about it’s quality so I’ve never felt like wasting money on it. Hopefully someone makes another textured control pad soon.

[@MasXeG]

@@KraftyCraftKraf I know you spoke very highly of the xten, and the way you described the feedback of the pad sounded valuable, only thing stopping me is price. Hopefully lgg will give textured control a shot. Appreciate the reply.

[@erianelingon5208]

Hi Krafty, would u recommend the Venus for someone who likes hybrid pads but wants a little more control? I've mained the AC+ black for 4 months then the Odin Infinity for about 10 months until now, and from the reviews i've seen and read many stated that it's a hybrid pad that still offers control. Initially I wanted to buy the Saturn, but it's so different to what I'm used to so i decided not to do it. As for the Mercury I think it's too fast, which is what I'm avoiding.

[@tinychamberz]

You are the best Mousepad reviewer!

[@Xerpocalypse_]

Thank you for the impressive amount of detail in your reviews. They have been extremely helpful lately. I’d really love to know how this compares to my current Eve Cordura mousepad and the LGG Saturn. I’m finding that the Eve is a bit fast sometimes for small corrections, but can’t decide between the Venus and Saturn.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The biggest difference Between the Venus and Saturn is that the Venus is all around faster with a different speed profile. It has slightly lower static friction and less resistance on small motions, plus a more defined texture which makes its easier to make correction movements, but unlike the Saturn, the Venus doesn't start to slow down and grab your feet once you get the mouse moving so it might start to feel a little too fast and slippery. Of the two, the Saturn would probably be your best bet if other pads are feeling to fast, but it still might not be your best option overall. Its still a pad that is fairly quick on small movements, especially compared to other control pads, so I would instead recommend something with higher resistance like the Eclipse or Radar. They'll both slow you down a lot on corrections and give a more deliberate feel to your aim which should be good.

[@peaupi]

ily thank you for such a detailed review

[@nocomplyyy]

How much slower is this compared to the Mercury? Currently using an Odin Infinity(Hien clone) that needs replacing and I want something a bit more slow and precise. I've never tried slow pads and started with the Hien clone, mostly play Valorant and every now and then some Apex. Not sure between Saturn or Venus... Nice nail polish btw

[@donghuwu370]

Love your videos, which cloth pad do you think is best for heavy sweating hands?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Cloth pads are almost universally more susceptible to sweat and humidity than hybrids so its pretty hard to find one that works well. The LGG Saturn is probably the closest you'll get to the traditional cloth feel with good sweat resistance. Also, the Odin Eclipse is a classic cloth control pad that is more resistant than most. You'll still feel it slow a bit in the middle where your hand rests but its not too terrible.

[@anonymoushyphen]

I know this is a late comment, but this review was incredible and your nails are perfect, great color, f the haters ✌🏾✌🏾

[@Ebbzzor]

Which lethalpad would u recommend? I use a heavier mouse at 135g and play midtier fps + mmorpg + moba.

[@Hunzh647]

I play valorant in low sens palm grip at a pretty high level been using tiger ice outset on a artisan zero soft was it a mistake to get a venus with tiger ice for games like valorant? (I just wanted little more speed than what the zero soft had)

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

If you want something just a little faster than the zero, the Venus should be your best bet. It still feels controllable but has noticeably less dynamic and static friction than the zero so it should feel faster and a little less restrictive.

[@Joshuaperalta8]

For games like valorant with superglides. What do you prefer more? This or the saturn

[@frogidty]

I would love to try this pad out, but I’m afraid it’s gonna be the same as the Fnatic dash since it’s also hybrid and I don’t like hybrid pads. Is this pad like very smooth?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

No, it'll have that same abrasive texture of the dash so its unlikely that you'd enjoy the feel. Hybrid pads are just one of those things that either click for you or they don't since they are all fairly similar in their presentation.

[@frogidty]

@@KraftyCraftKraf I’ll get glass skates with LGG Saturn instead.

[@tsumday]

Got my venus today, love your videos. It's pretty abrasive more than the GSR(worned). I'm getting used to mine and haven't try tracking/spraying, but the flicks were amazing. Oddly enough, flicking in Valorant was fine but oping felt different. Currently stock GPX feet, going to replace with tiger arc 1 today too and see the difference.

[@igoryha49]

Waiting for updates from u. Some people say Venus is even faster than Hien/Mercury, so I am confused if it is fine for tac shooters like Val or CS. Arc 1s should give u more control though. Do u like ur gpx with arc 1s? Is it enough of control?

[@tsumday]

@@igoryha49 I think Venus get faster as it's get worn out as mentioned in this video. I didn't know tiger arc 1 is more control, I'm replacing my feet since something rattling in my gpro and only way is to open it. The control in my gpx stock is enough tbh. Might up my sens if anything. As for the mousepad, ngl I did have a slight headache using it. Not sure it's the adjusting period or smell. After a while tho, I play fairly well. The dynamic friction felt as it's able to stop when I need it too. As of static friction, I can track just fine but haven't got the opportunity for faster movement. My method is looking at an area and moving my mouse and hoping it stops there. Only game I play is Valorant. No aimlab or anything. Current peak is d1, previously D3 and got lem on csgo.

[@coffee1080]

@@tsumday just get tiger ice when you replace them

[@tsumday]

@@coffee1080 why would I want a fast mouse skate coming from a slow pad?

[@coffee1080]

@@tsumday dunno, didnt read your whole post LOL, i just saw "i didnt know arc was for control" and assumed you wanted slicker skates hahah

[@calumgoetz3718]

I bought an xl soft Hien 3 weeks ago and have had allot of trouble with flicks and long range in valorant. I’m contemplating returning the hien and buying a venus. Or should I just stick it out and try to adapt?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The Hien was my first speed pad after long-term maining the G-SR and other control pads before it. It took me easily a few weeks to feel completely confident so I recommend you stick it out. You should also look into specifically aim training these skills on the Hien to grind these skills more efficiently. A fast pad will demand much more from you so you have to put in some work to develop your mouse control, but the benefits will be worth it. It still may not be your long-term main, but it's worth spending the time to get used to it and develop your skills, especially since you already have the pad.

[@calumgoetz3718]

@@KraftyCraftKraf couple hours ago I lowered my sens from .372 down to .283 and I was suddenly able to top frag my last 3 comp games. I guess that was the change I needed lol

[@calumgoetz3718]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thanks for the reply

[@potion95]

I would just stick it out and use it for a couple weeks and if it still feels weird after that then you might want to try something different. I feel like a safe choice is the otsu v2 if you end up not liking the hien. It’s a bit faster than the zero but a tad slower than the hien.

[@Daniel-qn3ek]

Hello! Would you recommend this pad for slow sens and heavy tracking game like Apex?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah it should be perfect for that situation. A quicker surface with some texture is ideal for large angle movements and keeping up with the pace of a faster game. I focused on slower games for this review because it is not typical for a surface like this to feel good for them and this pad is such a natural fit for faster stuff I neglected to speak much on it.

[@sololakey1906]

Could you review the wugi 2? I saw a couple reviews on it, enough to get me interested in the pad, but not enough to get a idea of what it compares to.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah, I'll be reviewing the wugi2 very soon. It just came in the other day and I was able to test it out today. So far it actually feels really good and super unique. It's way more controlled than I though it'd be and it feels like it could be a potential main once I get used to it. Might make an initial impressions vid tomorrow.

[@iain.]

The Venus is very comfortable lol.

[@gab3635]

which lgg pad do you prefer?

[@fpsLyle]

How does this compare to AC+?

[@crispyexcal204]

How similar is the Venus compared to the original aqua control + black?

[@Trizjoe]

Are you planning on a Venus Pro review

[@NoshNosher]

ive been using some rather fast pads for a while (raiden, odin infinity) but i recently started playing val and switched back from my raiden to the infinity for it, do you think the venus would be a good bet for me? especially compared to the saturn. i think my mouse control is very good so im not sure i need a really slow pad but i do think having more of a control pad would help in val

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

the venus sounds perfect for you actually. it’s one of the best tac shooter pads in general i feel because of how much it excels at enabling you to make small adjustments with its texture and low static friction and since it keeps some stopping power due to its higher than average dynamic friction for hybrid pads. the only thing that holds it back is it can lack some of the stability that makes crosshairs placement easier and more consistent, but since you already use speed pads your mouse control and smoothness should be fine adequate enough to overcome this without issue. i’d say go for it. it’s already one of the best out there and your use case sounds like a great match for the surface.

[@moepOo]

Which pad is rougher / more abrasive to the skin? This or the Otsu?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Definitely this. The otsu feels better on bare skin.

[@MorrTex]

You back to the zaunkoenig instead of the g303? Try using 3mm LOD, 4000 hz and 1600dpi with the m2k. It's a world of a difference with hybrid pads

[@hulee6095]

Why 3mm instead of 2? I have m2k and 2mm felt much better

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I use the same polling rate and dpi as well, I just halve it to 800 with RawAccel, but I also don’t get the 3mm lod. I tried it out and got a lot of tilt tracking issues due to how often I pick up and reset the mouse so it felt terrible. Is there any objective reason to use 3mm? And the M2k is back in my rotation but it’s still not a main over the za13 or g303se. Those mice still feel too reliable to replace but I keep getting shaper with the M2k now that I’m figuring out how to adjust back and forth off of it.

[@4iu89a7]

Based

[@reaguapy4556]

do you have any humidity issues on the pad? ive been having hot spots and it affects gameplay

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

No, but its always cold and very dry during the winter where I live so the conditions are pretty bad to test for humidity resistance. I also have yet to notice any issues with sweat and arm heat so that's interesting. I'll have to be sure to pull the pad back out when it warms up.

[@LilsniperMf]

Do you think this pad would be good on faster pace games? Like apex and warzone ?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah it should be perfect for those games. Its fast enough to keep up with the pacing and help you track smoothly.

[@KhapriSun]

im not sure whether to go with the venus or saturn. atm im using the logitech g640 but i wanted to try something else. my main game atm is valorant

[@KhapriSun]

@Sadecito i got ice skates recenty for my gpro, might pair it up with the saturn cuz its more control sided. could be a nice combo

[@DimaQxt]

If your main game is Valorant then I would definitly recommend control pads, Saturn is one of that kind. More speed based mousepads are better for games such as Apex Legends, Overwatch or Quake, where your mouse is in constant movement and you require smooth tracking.

[@KhapriSun]

@@DimaQxt I most likely will stick with the saturn. I do main more slower games like Valorant atm, only occasionally play apex or overwatch.

[@nervz]

so should I get the venus or the hayate otsu xsoft? I play valorant

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

If price isn't an option, the Otsu is an incredible pad. It performs very well and feels excellent use so it's always an easy recommendation. Just keep in mind that it will be a little more difficult to learn than the Venus and you'll have to put in some time on it to get the consistency that you need for tac shooters.

[@nervz]

@@KraftyCraftKraf is the otsu sweat resistant? I noticed that I sweat quite a bit (not b/c its too hot or anything like that) when I game. This causes my zero soft to slow down on the area where I sweat. It feels muddy there. Does the otsu or hien have any resistance to sweat?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah I have the same issue with the zero. The Otsu is pretty resistant and any effects of sweat are very minimal so you’ll be fine. The Hien feels truly sweat and moisture proof in my experience and always feels the same, even when sweat buildup starts to darken the red color.

[@zorvantv]

If you ever tried Hyperx Fury S Black, can you compare the speed?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The venus is definitely faster, but not by a whole lot. It feels about one full step faster and a decent in between spot between pads like the fury and speed pads.

[@zorvantv]

@@KraftyCraftKraf 🙏

[@mashmadness4509]

using the Venus with the Pulsar Superglide are slower than with PTFE Feet. i am consused, someone noticed that too?

[@barnacleboy3470]

how does this compare to the mercury?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The mercury feels faster all around with slightly lower static friction and markedly lower dynamic friction. This gives it a little less stopping power and makes your mouse control more manual. Its surface texture is also rougher and more pronounced than the Venus so you get a little more feedback and start to feel each bump like I was talking about which is what saves it from feeling too slippery despite its speed. Think of the Venus as a speed pad that combines some elements of slower surfaces to feel more balanced and the mercury as a full speed pad that always feels fast but is still controllable and not slippery due to its heavy texture.

[@barnacleboy3470]

@@KraftyCraftKraf my hero

[@cranzit7406]

What mousepad do you use

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

My current main is the WuGi2. It's a really cool pad that I'll be reviewing soon. The XTen Control is still perfect for me, but it's just gotten a little boring. I also go back to the Saturn and PA a lot because they are both super solid when I want some more control. The Hien has also had a bit of a revival for me recently. It's so fun to use and an aim trainer demon.

[@Celesian]

will you be taking a look at the fnatic bolt?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

yeah, I'm getting a review copy and will be able to post my thoughts mid-late February

[@xellos5]

I'll be waiting for the hayate ostu review!

[@xen9592]

Otsu xSoft v2 is the best pad ever made, can't use any other pad now. Speed pads are too fast and control pads have too much static friction, Otsu v2 is the best mix.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Maybe I'll make a vid on it. Its a super interesting pad that'd be fun to talk about, but idk if I'll feel like making one.

[@xellos5]

​@@KraftyCraftKraf What I really find weird about the Otsu is that I never feel like I'll have enough stopping power, but I somehow always do. I've hit some insane flicks in Valorant that I feel like I shouldn't have been able to hit, given how fast the pad is. But fast is the wrong word. It's this really weird relationship between it's speed/texture/stopping power that makes static friction low which makes it great for oping, while still retaining stopping power for rifling. I highly encourage the Otsu video. I find that your reviews in general are quite detailed and nuanced in a way that only someone who used the pad for a long time could provide. I specifically enjoy how concrete you are in your descriptions. I find that extremely useful as a listener.

[@xellos5]

​@@xen9592 It's for sure on a class of it's own. I don't think there is another pad that is like it. It's quite low static friction, and low dynamic friction, but it still has stopping power for flicks. I think it's one of those pads that you have to trust fully to play well on, which is weird because I never have this same feeling with a control pad like the Zero. I just kinda had to trust that the pad will stop my mouse when I want my mouse to stop, and this mental adjustment makes me play much better/cleaner.

[@xellos5]

@@KraftyCraftKraf Also, this is my preference on commentary, but I prefer the one-take style of your M2K review more than the recent edited ones. They give off a more natural, colloquial feeling which I think goes along well with reviews. I find that when things get too edited, people's voiced tend to sound unnatrual and rehearsed, which feels off putting. That being said, I think both styles are fine, but I've always enjoyed the one-take style more. I think the best one-take tech/audio reviewers is probably Z Reviews/Zeos. I find his commentary very informative and detailed while also being quite entertaining, even when talking about topics I have no idea about. Excited to see where they channel heads in the future.

[@cameronfrazier3539]

Jupiter review soon???

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

yeah, I'll be getting around to covering LGG's whole lineup in the coming weeks

[@cameronfrazier3539]

Awesome! I hope you will go over the talk about the Jupiter performing VASTLY different based on mouse feet brand/shape

[@karp8]

You should do a coolermaster round up

[@jorgevillegas1178]

Nioce mk2

[@iDontEvenLiftBro]

we have the same desk lamp lol

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

lol nice I’ve had that thing forever. Good ol’ reliable.

[@MrKarli120]

I know this is not the question about mousepad but why you have painted nails?

[@zheng6661]

It actually increases air resistance on the fingertips which allow for more accuracy and control whilst doing flick shots

[@hadoru314]

@@zheng6661 LMAO

[@mudofx9368]

I think he is a weird just like all the other people that are into mice

[@i_drew_7629]

@@mudofx9368 no shot a dude with a flaming skull pfp said this...lmao

[@NathanMian]

@@hadoru314 Go to bed brother

[@phucnguyen0110]

Do you have the Razer Strider by any chance? If yes, how does this one compare to it?

[@hadoru314]

The strider is a lot rougher and faster

[@phucnguyen0110]

@@hadoru314 ty, got it.