Lets Look at Iron Saga VS! 2D Mecha Fighting with the Classics!

[@rooflemonger]

Iron Saga VS is a mecha fighting game featuring classic Mecha of Anime (well im assuming, I have no idea who any of these people are besides mazinger Z lol), and its currently live on the Steam Next Fest as a demo until October 21st. Since the demo is live I figure lets take a look at it and see whats going on, and turns out whats going on, is pretty good! So give the vid a watch and see whats up, and join me in my quest to get Eva and some of the first few gundams in here cause thats the only mecha i know

[@Gamersgoinblind]

The Mecha in this is game are mostly original to the Iron Saga gacha games, there are 4 guest Mecha though, Mazinger, Zeorymer, Shin Getter Robo and Dancouga.

[@RandomDPAP]

In the gacha game, we had Mazinger, Getter, Dancouga, Gurren Lagann, Patlabor, Tekkaman, Zeorymer, GaoGaiGar, Ultraman, Gridman, Rakuen Tsuihou, Cowboy Bebop, Armored Gull, ICEY, Dangaioh and Even Batman Samurai

[@roguepenbot]

Love ya ma guy but please don't give up on all of Gundam because of Seed. That's one show out of like 30.

[@sf6ftw833]

Mazinger z is the greatest Mech ever!

[@RandomDPAP]

No way... I play the gacha game since global launch I didnt know theres a fighting game?!?!?!

[@rooflemonger]

through the power of the rooflemonger, now you know. Blessings upon you 👴

[@julianmorgan79]

Does the gotcha game have a similar art style? because the chibi esque style is a little off putting, the limbs of some mechs kind of get lost in the rest of the body.

[@RandomDPAP]

@@julianmorgan79 no chibi in the gacha game actually except some avatars

[@tamonster3416]

Im very excited for this after trying the demo. The variations are actually surprisingly different which is really fun. Im glad they are actually testing the online so hopefully its good on release

[@MalBlack-p5h]

Glad you Covered this like nobody is talking about it I'm hoping we get some Gundams involved like shining finger and master gundam

[@rooflemonger]

I promised some more indie fighters so here we go! Not the last of it either, expect antoher "lets look at" probably in a few days from now, although we will have something else inbetween just for variety's sake. Lots of people asked me to look at this one and legitimately its pretty solid, had fun and I think you will too

[@user-np3cp2cb7u]

promise us ecchi or eroge figjting game! there's gotta be one out there. right?

[@jamessim8129]

This an indie? With this amount of IP in it?

[@rooflemonger]

@@jamessim8129 it aint one of the big fighting games, and its obvious its not a big budget either, so indie is what it gets called.

[@jamessim8129]

@@rooflemonger ok that's a fair assessment. Mazinger goes back to 1972 and is a pretty huge and influential IP. It deserves better but I guess the mecha genre isn't what it used to be.

[@m3tl1kv3e9]

Iron Saga VS is very awesome game it's like Battle Assault and Super Robot Spirits vibes to it. I love the Lifebar UI Rhombus shape for a robo sci Fi theme. I can't wait to play this for Super Robot Spirits Homage.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

This came out of nowhere, and it's so cool. I don't think I'll ever play it online, but I'm looking forward to mashing with friends in it.

[@phdbot4483]

Variations for this game make sense to me because customizations are part of the fun in anything that has to do with mechs. I wouldn't mind having Shinji and his EVA-1 in here, same with the guys from Getter Robo. If Super Robot Wars is anything to go off of, it's that Shinji needs high-spirited people like them in his life.

[@bolthesorcerer3570]

The Getter Robo was confirmed in a previous trailer iirc Edit: Yup, also Shin Getter for DLC. And Final Dancouga in base game.

[@MrMarket1987]

Fun fact: While never given an official release outside of Japan, Super Robot Spirits back in 1998 for the N64 already had several relatively decently known Super Robots that could be played in that 3D fighting game, along with a couple from SRW itself. Those included R-1 Kai (OG), Judecca (OG), Voltes V, Dancouga (it's currently representing the Settings menu in this Demo), Daitarn 3, Walker Gallia (Xabungle), Dunbine, Shining Gundam, Master Gundam, and Devil Gundam. On a sidenote, the mech for the Store icon is Boss Borot, also from the Mazinger series.

[@daveyfgn]

DEFINITELY KEEPING MY EYE ON THIS!!!🔥🔥🔥 Thanks for covering this roof!!!

[@komborekt7016]

I love how you only cover traditional fighting games, brother! 🍻 Yes, smash and anime arena mashers are nifty and all but we grew up on Arcade Tokens ;]

[@rooflemonger]

ive covered platform fighters everryyyy now and then, its just not the main focus. Never covered arena fighters although in retrospect I probably should have tossed together a few guides for sparking blast if only for the fact apparently everyone assumed I was gonna, despite the fact ive never covered an arena fighter once before.

[@komborekt7016]

@@rooflemonger GIVE THE MASHERS YT SHORTS

[@GurrenPrime]

I’m excited we’re finally getting a proper mecha crossover fighting game. That’s something I’ve wanted for so long. That said, I’m a little disappointed it’s Iron Saga instead of Super Robot Wars. Iron Saga just doesn’t have the same vast roster of characters to pull from as SRW has. Like, it’s got some good ones, don’t get me wrong, (my boy Gurren Lagann’s in there), but SRW’s got the potential to make a roster larger than DBZ Sparking Zero, lol. Plus I just prefer my mecha more cartoony looking over the more greebled look of Iron Saga. Still probably going to get this when it has a full release any way. Too good of a concept to be too picky about.

[@ThePlKLE]

Have you checked out arcus chroma? That one looks pretty cool too

[@rooflemonger]

to be honest I can't say I have even heard of that, so I guess we go to google lol

[@LeanXTriforcer]

Thank you for covering this! I’m hyped for the full game

[@alstermaniac]

Its such a good time to be a fighting game fan. These games were so inaccessible 10 years ago. Now with content creators, good netcode, and so much choice, better training modes and tutorials, its crazy how good the genre has become.

[@Jandro1083]

Thanks for making this video, I was unaware and almost missed it. Been waiting for this game since it got announced and the gameplay in the demo exceeded my expectations

[@mattiac8734]

No way. Can't play it. I'd call ALL the moves in middle of the night yelling each one of them. Can't wake up the girls with a BURESTO FAIAAAAA! at 2 o'clock.

[@baresize]

Does this mean we’re getting a Gundam Battle Assault retrospective down the line Roof? 👀

[@ElTacoNazo92]

Mazinger Z!! In a fighting game?! Let's go! Breast Fire! Rocket Punch! Mazin go!

[@wildzide]

Technically every character is a big body since they are mechas

[@greatdaze1]

I would never ask for people to be known of every random series but hearing mazínger or susan-oh made me take damage

[@KurohigeDTeach-yy3yk]

I want to see The Big O Gurren Lagaan Blodia GF13-017NJII God Gundam Armor Knight G Kaiser

[@RandomDPAP]

Gurrn Lagaan is a possibility since we had a collab event with them in the gacha game.

[@Jandro1083]

since it's a fighting game the God Gundam should be a must, also Kotetsu Jeeg, and Daimos

[@RandomDPAP]

@@Jandro1083 in the gacha game, we had Mazinger, Getter, Dancouga, Gurren Lagann, Patlabor, Tekkaman, Zeorymer, GaoGaiGar, Ultraman, Gridman, Rakuen Tsuihou, Cowboy Bebop, Armored Gull, ICEY, Dangaioh and Even Batman Samurai

[@Jandro1083]

@@RandomDPAP that's amazing

[@RandomDPAP]

@@Jandro1083 Final Dancouga and Getter is already guaranteed but idk about other collab mechs.

[@Zomgbbq667]

I was sold the moment i saw that headbutt. Keep the honda spirit alive xD

[@MARK-r6c3k]

It does look like Fun. Wish I still had a Gaming PC.

[@zetachaox]

Very happy with the implementation of autocombos here.

[@Neruk01]

Sad that they made them chibi.. Ive been waiting for a modern mecha fighters but thats a dealbreaker for me

[@Revanxbone]

I looove mazinger and getter robo 😤😤😤

[@nethxing]

I love super robot wars so much i hope this comes out soon and lots of mechs specially the guren

[@kangweiyan7012]

As a Super Robot Wars fan this is must play😮

[@PrimeKeroHS]

I've always wanted another rising thunder - this will have to do 😁. It looks great

[@MrCactuar13]

If there's Gunbuster then I guess I'm automatically in

[@ens0246]

This hand of mine is burning red! Its loud roar tells me to grasp victory! 😂

[@MrStimpson38]

Fingers crossed Getter makes an appearance. Hopefully OG, but Shin would be cool too.

[@stevencisneros9306]

Absolutely beautiful, hopefully once it gets a worldwide release, the many Gundams, the EVA Units from Evangelion, the Big O, and many others will be present there!!!

[@joshjo9405]

Would the EVA units be rushdown or stance characters?

[@stevencisneros9306]

@@joshjo9405 one could be rushdown, and the other could be stance oriented

[@dandanny2036]

@@joshjo9405 They will have an existencial crisis for all rounds and the entire show plus all the movies will play after that

[@lionhartcaelum6833]

It would be cool to see the OG megazord in this 😂 Hell even Lelouch and his mech would be cool!

[@TythenK]

Looking up the game, it seems that aside from Mazinger Z, the other mechs and its pilots in the demo right now are original ones from the Iron Saga phone game. Still, it'd be cool to see more characters, be it collab ones or original. They look kinda cool.

[@salihninja]

Can't wait to see one of these games featured in will it kill in like a year.

[@Gamersgoinblind]

There's a lot of fighting games, I wonder if you'll also cover Terrordrome since that also came out officially on the 17th of October.

[@abeybaebe2514]

Variations for a mecha fighter? Sweet!

[@baddabaddabaddaswing]

This is the closest we've gotten to a Gundam Battle Assault 2 successor.

[@essamimz]

Great video brother 👍, Just a heads up, variations system started way back (Samurai Shodown 3 - 1995) 👍👍

[@rooflemonger]

its not about who did it first, its who put it on the map in a big way and thats MKX. Samsho 3 ain't no samsho 2, I barely even remember 3.

[@Magus12000BC]

Samsho 3 is the one that blatantly reads your inputs from the start and ditches Charlotte from the roster.

[@dandanny2036]

If you never watched any other Gundam series aside from SEED you're missing out hard. Just start from the 79 series and continue with that. Or watch the 80s-90s OVAs like War in the Pocket. EDIT: SEED is a separate universe. Gundam does different universes so that new fans can start without having to watch the previous stuff but the main Gundam Universe is the Universal Century.

[@rooflemonger]

ive watched everything up to seed. Seed made me stop watching gundam.

[@dandanny2036]

@@rooflemonger ok cool I recommend a rewatch of thunderbolt to wash it away

[@PKMNTrainerKratos]

Not for me, but massively appreciate the shout out to the smaller fighting games!!

[@kamenrider64]

This looks sick makes me wanna get a power rangers fighting game with megazords

[@Mrbookworm-k4v]

Rivals 2 has a demo 😊

[@rooflemonger]

I actually just found that out, I had no idea it was part of the steam next fest

[@Mrbookworm-k4v]

@@rooflemonger just know I will be the first to watch the video

[@MAS45]

Gimme Burning Gundam and we're good 😂

[@ens0246]

My finger is on fire! My finger is erupting! Someone call a doctor!

[@TheBlackOtaku]

No, this is a fighting game. I would love to spend my heart on money on. 😁

[@battlericky17]

Fighting games came with a vengeance

[@sadnesseyes1983]

If it has grendizer i will buy it

[@Henyo5566]

The original gacha game has several other series collabs. No evangelion though. Most of them have been strictly of the super robot variety. And Evangelion is more a hybrid. They have shown great mazinger, boss borot, dancouga, getter robo, shin getter robo and zeorymer.

[@driftingdeadlock5916]

Wait, Zeorymer? I knew we were getting the others but I wasn't aware that was going to get in. I'm down for that!

[@Henyo5566]

@@driftingdeadlock5916 there's already an image of zeorymer and shin getter..along with two original units.

[@joshjo9405]

Voltes V?

[@Henyo5566]

@@joshjo9405 I checked the list. Nope. No Voltes atm.

[@joshjo9405]

I wonder if they'll be able to get Voltron/GoLion in this game?

[@kevincruz7958]

Hey a new 2D fighter!! Cool!!

[@reicherwallace6774]

I love super robot wars. I would main the hell outta Mazinger.

[@robertwenrenyeh]

I didn’t except the Chibi look, but super robot wars was like that. It makes me want to built the cheap chibi robots more than play the game, since it provokes playtime imagination lol

[@sasuke0079]

I'm actually more hyped by this than by city of the wolves (even if I'm a huge SNK fan). In fact, I also love mecha fighting games, and unfortunately they are no popular at all, even if capcom tried a few times (and I still love tech romancer)

[@championredd]

Watch gundam iron blooded orphans that ones good not all gundam series are the same

[@RocketSlug]

IBO is good, though the more I watch the various Gundams the more I realize Code Geass did everything Gundam sets out to do if not better

[@jellojiggler1693]

haha. I tried to get into gundam by watching iron blooded orphans and it was one of the worst things I've ever seen. Couldn't make it past a few episodes. Different strokes.

[@seansubulade831]

lol hype to try it and lemme say seed was …seed in terms of gundam but please try iron blooded orphans one of the best gundams and witch from mercury was pretty good !

[@rooflemonger]

ive heard good thing about iron blooded orphans

[@xXxSasukeTakaxXx]

im just not a big fan of the chibi estetic they went for :/

[@axsprime]

Sorry you had to experience Gundam Seed, go watch Iron Blooded Orphans as a pallet cleanser.

[@ZenPaladin]

Give me a stance character Veritech and I'm sold.

[@jigokuruler36]

Of those, Mazinger z aside the rest are Originals from ironsaga, and damn this Game is fun as f

[@kitchenknight4711]

If I had a nickle for every Canadian youtuber I follow who hates Gundam Seed, I'd have two nickles. (Rooflemonger and Woolie) I thought I'd be richer, Seed sucks.

[@rooflemonger]

oh respect for woolie then, he recognizes trash same as me

[@benjaminmuratore9341]

I read the text that popped up when you mentioned Gundam early on, and I really think you need to give the franchise a second chance. Say what you will about Seed, but not everything that's come after has been bad. I know of a Gundam youtuber who can give you some quality recommendations if you're interested.

[@elneco4654]

Reminder that this isn't related to Bandai Namco in any way, shape or form; don't expect any Gundam.

[@guidenprime503]

you lost me at chibi artstyle

[@2ndai385]

If only they chose a stylized 3D style

[@trashboat5388]

We need some G gundam in this.

[@qualityart4004]

I consider myself pretty well versed in mecha and I have no clue what 3/4s of the roster are from lol

[@zeigman]

It always saddens me a bit when I see SNK's ideas being unrecognized in the northern hemisphere. But I do understand we ultimately have to name things in a way most people will identify, even if it ends up not crediting those who deserve it. The so called "variation system" from MKX has been around since at least Samurai Shodown 4 Bust/Slash system.

[@shemassb3453]

this looks like mechquest

[@ecanoya]

Seed is pretty much the worst Gundam. I actually recommend Gundam 00, since it's the one that actually got me into Gundam (never really cared for mecha before that)

[@goldbroadcast7186]

No its not smh

[@Zenotron]

Please give Gundam another chance! I think you would really like G Gundam, especially if you're into fighitng games. It's unfair to dismiss the entire franchise because of SEED.

[@williehawkinsii4845]

hope we get code geass, gurren lagun, knights and magic, Promare, and mu-luv an a good amount of gundam not just the :RX-78, Wing gundam, and God gundan A.K.A. the burning gundam

[@winstongarcia3931]

Roof I know you are trolling the sparking zero fans but you gotta release an opinion video on the sparking zero fgc debate

[@rooflemonger]

do I? My opinion is well known, its even been used in other vids. I got nothing to say that basically just wouldn't be considered rage bait at this point. If you like the game god bless and hope you have fun with it, but it aint for me.

[@simonbellmont]

They need to stop playing …. And give us that Transformers fighting game with heavy metal accents.

[@themlgjeff5618]

Damn I got excited until i saw the art style

[@drjcup3228]

Gundam SEED is famously bad, I recommend giving other the other series a try.

[@AllenJohn]

What's this? Mecha Fighting games for ANTS??

[@jamesblas6427]

Fighting game adaptations are better than gatcha games in my opinion! At least you dont have to rely on dice rolls.😂

[@beatthebag]

Sorta weird decision to make the in game characters look Chibi style. Especially since they look different at the character select screen. Why didn't they use the character select screen models, they are better. Like nothing about the game looks chibi until you actually start it.

[@rafdes]

My guess is they wanted them all the same size.

[@CloudPlays444]

It's a nod to Super Robot Wars style

[@GurrenPrime]

Both of the previous responses are likely why: Super Robot Wars, the single largest mecha crossover franchise, chibifies all the characters, so dedicated mecha fans will be used to the style. And part of the reason for SRW chibifying the characters (aside from making sprites easier to work with in the older games) is to help make all the robots look like they belong together. This is a genre where fighters can range in size from human-sized to larger than the observable universe, so portraying everybody at their canon sizes can pose some issues. And the chibi sprites make the adjustments to their sizes feel more natural than just having a fully detailed Knightmare Frame the size of a fully detailed Gunbuster.

[@davidsentanu7836]

​@@GurrenPrimeThe weird thing is that the character select screen has non-chibi style. Which is inconsistent and perplexing.

[@amitypredator9385]

And disappointing.

[@theDARKlordFLUFFY]

I just wish it wasn't Chibi, I love mecha and fighting games but I really dislike chibi and super deformed art styles. It's a big turn off for me.

[@joshjo9405]

Isn't the chibi artstyle literally the entirety of SRW tho?

[@lionhartcaelum6833]

I feel like everyone who hates the chibi style characters Never played a SRW or SRT game in their life 😂

[@theDARKlordFLUFFY]

@@joshjo9405 I stayed away from SRW because of the art style and I don't care for turn based games. I just grew up watching Super Robot anime like the Brave series, Mazinkaiser, Shin Getter robo, Big 0, Tetsujin, and I could go on.

[@joshjo9405]

@@theDARKlordFLUFFY what about Bang Brave Bravern? Is it a good quality Brave style mehca anime?

[@theDARKlordFLUFFY]

@@joshjo9405 I personally liked it, the flamboyance of the two main characters turned a lot of people off of it though from what I heard. The plot twist half way through the story is really interesting too. I much preferred J-Decker, Might Gaine, and GaoGaiGar if we're asking about the Brave series though.

[@kennethroseberry8952]

The art style really ruined it for me. Otherwise, I would really love the idea behind the development of this game. Techromancers on the Dreamcast nailed it. The gameplay look like it's a valid platform, but the big head on Mazinger really makes me lose the enthusiasm about the concept it being a serious contender for fighting games.

[@predictonmisson2772]

This art style is lazy and we are seeing it more and more because studios are opting to get it out faster than making sure of the art quality. The animations are also easier and faster to design this way. I give it 2months tops.

[@NoEvilEye]

Its not mk system Thats samsho bust system. They did it long before in 1995🤪

[@brandonsellers1076]

I love the concept, but the chibi-fied models are putting me off from it. I get the asthetic, but its not for me. If they were full scale designed likenthe show but made small like average height but made the city scape look small, I'd go for that. Happy for the community and the fact that a game that requires a ton of licensing is getting an actual 2D style fighter is great.. but.. chibi style? Man...😒

[@marcbraun5342]

I can agree on that, Evangelion is still the best mecha show, although not technically beeing mechas. They had one though...

[@GurrenPrime]

Eh, I feel like the fact that the Evas have cybernetic components makes them close enough to be considered mecha without any need to concern yourself over technicalities.

[@marcbraun5342]

@@GurrenPrime They're still docile lifeforms, sometimes not that docile though, with an armor around that as much for protection as for hiding what's underneath to not freak everyone out. So there's also an argument against it. But hey, it's fine for me. If we're going with what you wrote, we can at least definitely say it's the best mecha show, without any disclaimers. Gurren Lagann is also awesome. We modeled a videogame main character after Kamina in a university project and called him Kimani. We're sublte, but it wasn't as close so it's still inspired by and not a copy.

[@GurrenPrime]

@@marcbraun5342 I mean, there’s also the entry plugs: mechanical interfaces needed to control the things to begin with. Plus mechanisms in the spine to accept the entry plugs. So, a bit more than just the armor. And personally, I’m not sure I’d consider it the best mecha series, but I’m willing to agree to disagree on that point.

[@marcbraun5342]

@@GurrenPrime Yeah, I know there's a lot of tech in there, it needs to get powered after all. It still feels more like pupeteering an animal. A lot of tech what in the Evas is to surpress their mind and abilities. Don't get me wrong, I count it as a mecha series since a subversion of the genre still is within the genre. Unforgiven is still a western, and an awesome one at that, despite subverting a lot of tropes. And I don't think the genre should end wheather there's metal or flesh in the giant that gets piloted. But I can understand when people say these aren't mechas. I'd say it's a mecha show but the Evas aren't traditional mechas. It sure isn't for everyone and I can understand when purists don't like it. It isn't perfect, it lacks likeable characters and the finacial problems are very visible. But it does a lot of things very well and unique. So, best show is highly debateable but best mecha design isn't. The Evas just look awesome. A good contender would be the Orbital Frames from Zone of the Enders.

[@joshjo9405]

Jet Alone, the only true mecha in Evangelion.

[@mrpinguimninja]

What's with this apple arcade super deformed art style?

[@theinsanityarc]

Who up rooflin their monger?

[@theXaint]

I lost interest at 'chibi'.

[@MC_DOOM]

I’m not liking the art style

[@durrclips746]

Hate the way these 2D games are animated

[@misakisaki2682]

Why robots looks so serious on selecting screen but when in a fight they're some kind of deformed big headed mutants?

[@adolphineatingchildren2641]

cool video, I recommend giving gundam second chance(iron blooded orphans is really good )