Lets not argue about issues we can't resolve.

[@layersofpoliticaljokes5337]

Damn... Picard managed to convince himself that he is french instead of british so much that even truth serum wont reveal it

[@antonboludo8886]

LOL

[@micahbush5397]

I guess this is a parallel universe in which the English won the Hundred Years War?

[@layersofpoliticaljokes5337]

@@micahbush5397 I'm sorry man, youtube is hiding your comment, i can only see it because of an oversight by youtube (highlighted reply in the notifications tab)

[@hollybigelow5337]

That is pretty funny. I was never sure if the show was saying he was speaking French, but the Universal Translator was translating it or French was a dead language or English was the official language of Star Fleet. I have always leaned towards the first explanation, which could allow for a fun episode where the universal translator fails. Anyway, if it is true I think of the quote from The Good Place where Tahani is choosing to have that British accent. But your comment is absolutely hilarious.

[@stephandolby]

David Warner and Patrick Stewart are amazing in this double episode.

[@laker4life36]

He should’ve said “I am Locutus of Borg” lol

[@andypetrovich2155]

This is the greatest Cardassian explanation. Every word Garak, Dukat, Damar, Rain, and others said is true about Cardassia.

[@nathanfitzgerald6651]

Even though he's notsuper-famous, I consider David Warner easily one of the greatest English actors of all time. He's so delicious in everything he's in, he acts circles around just about everybody.

[@SubduedRadical]

He and Stewart just played off each other so perfectly in this entire thing. The lines were well written and the acting by both players was fantastically matched,

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*Since Jean-Luc Picard is snitching on the crew members, it's obvious he don't snitches get stitches & put into ditches.*

[@orbitalbutt6757]

RIP to David Warner, one of the most incredible voices and presences to go underappreciated by the public

[@woodwyrm]

He was awesome as the Klingon Chancellor Gorkon in Undiscovered Country and as the would-be Klingon Chancellor in Klingon Academy!

[@MrIrrepressible]

How did it go from this to..."sheer f***ing hubris" ?

[@MrIrrepressible]

@Screw KZbin star trek has always been diverse though

[@nameeman1562]

@@MrIrrepressible There's a difference between genuine diversity and "DAS RITE WHYTEBOI STAR TREK AINT FO YOU NO MO"

[@FlamingLily]

@@nameeman1562 ?????????

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

@@nameeman1562 Huh, I must have missed that episode...

[@philiphunn194]

@@nameeman1562 Really? I've never got that impression. Must not have my "white male outrage" chip installed.

[@peachesrambo4037]

Riker opening his big mouth.

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

Seriously. And he's supposedly known for his unreadable poker face.

[@jdotoz]

It's not great, but it doesn't necessarily give anything away. The Cardassians say they have Picard; asking if he is alive is a reasonable response.

[@kevinm.8682]

Riker erred by asking if Picard was alive. That confirmed the possibility that they knew about the mission. He should have said the claims were untrue and that if they indeed had Picard they should be able to confirm this by talking with him.

[@jdb2002]

Not really. Picard is a former crew member and friend. It would make sense for Riker to be concerned about his well-being.

[@AdmiralKarelia]

@@jdb2002 That doesn't mean he didn't screw up.

[@Cain-x]

@@jdb2002 That's the art of negotiating, you don't reveal your cards and be subtle in your info gathering.

[@OganySupreme]

That's why the Cardassian gave him that smile, as he just confirmed what they were saying. No argument necessary.

[@Cain-x]

@@OganySupreme Shame the plot required Riker to make such a rookie mistake. He's done quite a bit of stupid shit for plot.

[@OregonOutdoorsChris]

An excellent example of pacing and leading.

[@terranman4702]

Oh no, Worf ate those cardassian children! He ran out of good books to eat!

[@Jesusisyhwh]

Doesn't the Federation have any black ops teams or ambassadors?

[@jsnrvst]

They do.

[@stephenrowley4171]

They do but that wouldn't work for the story telling ;-)

[@Cain-x]

@@stephenrowley4171 The main characters have more plot armor

[@ryanarment5393]

They have ambassadors but they would have been ineffective in this situation. The federation could object to the development of metagenic weapons, and all the cardassians had to do would be deny that they were developing them. The federation had no diplomatic leverage in this situation. They did have section 31 which falls outside of Starfleet's jurisdiction. Section 31 had preserved its secrecy so well that even the tal shiar and the obsidian order were unaware of their existence. There was no way they would commit any people or resources to a mission with such high risks and low potential reward. Starfleet itself had stopped regarding itself as even a quasi military organization. They didn't have any personnel trained or equiped for these types of operations.

[@PASTRAMIKick]

They have Section 31, but they're ultra secret and answers to no one but themselves, they had been operating for 200 years by the time the DS9 crew met one of their operatives.

[@Wizardof]

As Sysco said...Just delaying the "inevitable"... Even Maxewell saw something going on. While Gul Madred was playing with lights, Sysco was busy taking Terok Nor. just imagine how bad Jellico was during the Dominion War....

[@bernhardwall6876]

David Warner had such a great voice. Sark from "Tron" is my favourite Warner role.

[@woodwyrm]

wait that is David Warner?!?

[@cleanerben9636]

Minas Corva, don't remember that city from Middle earth.

[@BrigadierBill]

Not all of Numenor's colonies were in New Zealand. Minas Gerais is in South America, for instance.

[@annoyed707]

@@BrigadierBill Don't forget the Minas Basin in Nova Scotia.

[@AdmiralKarelia]

It's "Minos Korva" though.

[@r0bw00d]

"Will I be alive at the time?"

[@iago318]

Always wondered why were they interrogating Picard for information he didn't possess.

[@KyleRayner12]

It's plausible that he'd have it, as the flagship would be involved in the defense of some of the Federation's border areas. The fact that he doesn't is clearly an intelligence failure on Cardassia's part, though.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Firstly, they are convinced that he DOES, and they aren't going to take "no" for an answer even under a truth serum. Second, once David Warner becomes convinced that Picard does indeed not have that information...well, then it just becomes a matter of sadistic pleasure.

[@DRKLCNS1]

even if he doesn't, the Cardassian wants only to break Picard, and if he doesn't give up those defense plans, he's bound to have other secrets.

[@lorefox201]

how are they supposed to know he doesn't possess the info if they don't interrogate him?

[@Stinger913]

@@lorefox201bro is missing the point this episode is an entire condemnation of torture. It doesn’t work. You have no way of knowing whether the guy you’re torturing does or does not know more information you want. It’s a crime internationally for a reason.

[@jdotoz]

My theory is that he really didn't know because Starfleet didn't have any.

[@Weiss_Hikari]

I knew that voice was Raz Al Ghul...

[@hardwirecars]

holy shit you are correct i had not made that connection till right now.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Also Chancellor Gorkon in Star Trek VI

[@Katka1979]

Watching this always makes me cry.

[@Jesusisyhwh]

How many Cardassians are there that a war which cost several hundred thousand lives would leave the planet on the brink of disaster?

[@stephenrowley4171]

Presuming it's earth like population several hundred isn't a huge amount in the grand scheme of things.

[@JarrodFrates]

@Cliven Longsight Not in Yesterday's Enterprise. Guinan says that the war with the Klingons had cost 40 billion lives thus far.

[@ennius42]

Maybe Picard wasn't thinking clearly due to sleep deprivation and the serum, so he came out with nonsensical figures.

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

You think that's weird? They said the Cardassian Occupation of Bajor cost over 10 million lives over 60 years. The Nazis did 3 times that in 6. Without computers, replicators, or faster than light travel. Leopold II of Belgium did that just during his administration of the Congo. Hell the British are responsible for 85 million in India just thanks to famine. Sci-fi writers have no sense of scale.

[@jonathancurran5366]

​@Mourtzouphlos240 probably because it's written by Americans whose bloodiest war only had deaths in the hundreds of thousands.

[@CtrlOptDel]

“Oh, that's perfect. They should put that on our money.”

[@jaxonfiddle4811]

Madred: I understand that you are a student of archaeology. Did you know Cardassia boasts some of the most ancient and speldid ruins in the entire galaxy? Picard: pretty sure soon this planet will be nothing but ruins. Madred: What? Picard: Huh?

[@breacat]

In the recent season of Picard when he was in a coma being interviewed by his therapist I so wish they could've gotten David Warner to play the part.

[@scottythegreat1]

David Warner recently died.

[@deanthiessen7306]

Mike ,thank you so much for putting in the time and energy to bring us TNG which is my favorite along with TOS...are you going to do any of the original series Mike?

[@mikejohnson3387]

I don't have any of the original. I have no clue, I maybe go back to DS9 for some minor eps.

[@deanthiessen7306]

@@mikejohnson3387 Thanks for the reply Mike yeah DS9 I could never get into ,without a ship it just isnt star trek.Thanks away.

[@michaelellams9105]

@@deanthiessen7306 I was the same with DS9 just couldn't get into it.

[@katieirenec]

@@mikejohnson3387 You should do a supercut of all the times in DS9 that someone is about to walk out a door, and then is forced to turn around by one final comment. It happens SO MUCH

[@bpsitrep]

The Cardassians were the greatest 'adversaries' of the Federation but so under used by the ST:NG writers.

[@robjackson5245]

But they were used better. This nonsense about how Cardassians are less advanced than the major 3 is typical idiocy (it's the other way around) said by morons with no brains, but some of that nonsensical thinking can be blamed on "DS9" and even this episode, which felt more like a "DS9" (it was said this was a stand-in) episode than a "TNG" episode. Cardassians are more hateful to non-Cardassians than Romualans are to non-Romulans.

[@eamonndeane587]

Thankfully, they were put to good use in Deep Space Nine.

[@vengeance5537]

It is time for more... experiments.

[@bentencho]

You dare to attack me here? Do you know who you face?! YOU WILL SUFFER YOU WILL *ALL* SUFFER!

[@mikewalrus4763]

Amazing, arifacts in Cardassia were unearthed? But Earth is not Cardassia, surely something in Cardassia would be uncarded or something like that!

[@Retrohertz]

I'm sure your correct, but from Picard's perspective the universal translator would still translate it to 'unearthed'.

[@Dr.Claw_M.A.D.]

Black ops is Admiral Netchtchev and Captain M'k'knzy Calhoun. USS Excalibur.

[@adamfistler465]

Damnit Cohagen just cut off the Cardassians air and end the episode. just make sure Piccard doesnt start the reactor.

[@dhyde2025]

Why the hell is the captain of the flagship doing a black ops operation inside hostile territory?

[@faunaflage]

Cuz he's so good at it! Oh, wait...

[@PASTRAMIKick]

Because Star Trek Admirals are the most retarded people in the Federation

[@Keto26]

Because the mission he was on dealt with destroying a genocide near apocolypse level virus. The method of delivering the virus was in a form only three people that were of starfleet was well versed in...Picard was one, the other two were retired.

[@scottmatheson3346]

@@Keto26 all the more reason to send in one of the retirees, for plausible deniability purposes. Nobody's going to accept for an instant that picard did this without starfleet orders. Anyway, the explanation makes no sense: it boggles the mind to say that only these three senior officers had experience in this technology. They had no junior science techs working with them? No one else in the federation was researching this subject?

[@michaelbread5906]

​@scottmatheson3346 it could be old technology. I know some old heads that are genius', and built many of the satellite's that orbit Earth. However, much of the technology they used is outdated, and not really taught much anymore. I figure a similar case has happened here, where the Cardassians are a tech level below the Federation, so only older people-like Picard-are familiar with the process.

[@mandelorean6243]

Cant believe HIM out of anyone, would subsequently speak out loud about illegal covert ops that could start a war after cardassian high ranked generals just left... Easily could've put microphone shot bug in there

[@ricardoortizjr.2715]

Is the Cardasian that is interrogating Picard the voice actor for Ras Al Ghul in the Batman the Animated Series?

[@mezanine10]

Captain Ben Maxwell was right about the Car-trashians.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I'd bet you $100,000 I could break Picard.

[@dsandoval9396]

I bet you 200,000 bars of gold plated latinum I could break him. Just give me a surgical knife, lime juice, and small slivers of wood (to drive between his finger/toes and his nails). I'll even get him to tell me why he kidnapped Mel Gibson.

[@55Quirll]

I'll bring Lexona Troi, that should break him

[@foregonereality]

@@55Quirll Tell him she's coming to rescue him and he'll seek asylum!

[@55Quirll]

@@foregonereality I know I would

[@HHopebringer]

@@55Quirll not Lwaxana, the holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx and the Holy Rings of Betazed! 😂😂😂

[@bogushype4451]

These clips are pretty pert to what's happening to us in real life. Is this on purpose?

[@mikejohnson3387]

I'm posting them because I finished posting most DS9 episodes.

[@cleanerben9636]

Stay where you are citizen. Our friendly party officers will be with you shortly. You must be sick but we will fix you!

[@SubduedRadical]

Those clips are even more true in 2021. This is insane.

[@bernhardwall6876]

There really are five lights. because that's how Gul Madred has chosen to define the number. Of course, Picard is also right in maintaining that there are four lights, because that is his definition of numbers. But Madred is the one calling the shocks.

[@bogushype4451]

@@bernhardwall6876 I think you might have missed something. Picard is being tortured and mind fucked. It's not about redefining terms. It's about brainwashing and compliance. They did the same thing to Theon Greyjoy in GOT. Turned him into a willing slave using trauma based mind control.

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

These guys are ducks, but they got blown up in the dominion war... who’s smug now spoon head?

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*Since Jean-Luc Picard is snitching on the crew members, it's obvious he don't snitches get stitches & put into ditches.*

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

Wait... ducks???

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*get the woman & break her into little pieces, but she will NEVER tell you want you want to hear. Or, will she?*

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

Hebrew Yisraelite Yahawadahite she was released. She’s fine.

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

@@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis *bring Crusher back & CRUSH her.*

[@mandelorean6243]

Always complaints and jokes of British / French.. Im content... if he had a French accent I wouldn't be watching this

[@Dr.Claw_M.A.D.]

How did Picard keep his commission? How did he not end up in a penal colony? Drugged or no, torture or no, he gave top secret information to the Cardasians. He later gave information to the Borg. Picard is a liability

[@hebrewyisraeliteyahawadahite]

*Since Jean-Luc Picard is snitching on the crew members, it's obvious he don't snitches get stitches & put into ditches.*

[@SwordsmanMercenary]

Truth serum in star trek actually does make you tell the truth. And the Borg literally take over your mind and body. How is that fair to hold against him? If you were captain and had those things happen to you, you wouldn't be able to not give away secrets either.

[@corssecurity]

How did Picard keep his commission after giving up his teammates and operational information to the cardasians? Before they tortured him. Drugs? Surely they train the officers to resist torture. Surely they must have chemical protection from such drugs before going on a black ops mission. You wouldn't see Calhoun being tortured. He'd kill the cardasians bare handed

[@DocMicrowave]

Same thing happened when he was captured and broken by the Borg. I guess he really is that important to the federation.

[@JarrodFrates]

@Cliven Longsight Indeed. While using a starship captain was a bad idea, everyone has a breaking point. You try to hold off as long as you can to reduce the value of any knowledge you have, or to provide something that sounds reasonable but isn't true like the normal size of a garrison and not the level to which it was reinforced, or the publicly available range and accuracy of a weapon that really has twice both. Even feeding a little bit of verifiable information can be helpful in furthering the deception.

[@crazylady02]

Anyone that goes on a mission like this are told information they can release, the would have orders on what to do if they where captured. We have no way of know what information they were told they can release or what those orders were. He only provided information about that mission, no problem since it all ready failed. However, when he was asked questions about a different mission he didn't provide any information. Calhoun would have been killed, then any information he had would be lost, which would make the mission a complete failure. Capt Picard is of more use to Starfleet alive.

[@scottmatheson3346]

Is there any evidence that such chemical protections exist in this canon, or are you just making shit up because canonical detail here is inconvenient to your take on the broader subject?

[@kellyberry]

Truth Serum look it up its impossible to lie if u are injected with it Truth Serum reminds me of Dukes of Hazard episode where Boss Hogg sat on a needle that had Truth Serum in it He Confessess everything hes done rotten Including Marrying his Wife to get her Wealth, Ha Picard captured by the Cardassions not good . I wonder if he during interragation is asked Do u like Cardassions? Picard responding Nah Kim and Chloe suck Id rather kiss a pig that watch them