This show is THE show =)

It was at that moment, Riker wished he had taken that promotion(s).

Let's be real though. Picard would not have put them in the brig, he would have confined them both to quarters.

4:45 Data: "... but I am unaware of any prior situation where a starship was taken so deep into a planetary body." ... Picard: S3E10

i hate george russell

2:25 - NO officer would EVER return to duty like that (a few days later presumably) - it would be weeks of therapy

As barbaric as the Klingons are (at least on comparison to other races), they do make a clear distinction between "honorable death/killing" and outright murder. For two warriors, each trained, equally armed and capable, consenting to a duel over honor is one thing. It is comparable to the times when Europeans, Brits and even Colonial Americans would fight and duel over severe insults, threats and so forth. And most certainly something Celtics did as well, sometimes in lieu of outright warfare. But to kill an unarmed person, poison someone, to attack someone with a weapon and without consent, is not considered honorable at all. That is considered "murder". Even in war, Klingons were known to show mercy and respect. In short, episodes like this showed that, as violent and brutal as some aspects of Klingons are, they still have laws, ethics, morals. They are different but they exist nonetheless. Star Trek excelled at showing how most alien villains were usually villains amongst their own people or simply had a very different outlook on life due to their culture. It took brilliant writing and imagination. It's most enjoyable.

Why did Tain order a glass of Kanar and it looks like Romulan Ale?

Riker’s tactics saved the Federation from the Borg just 3 years before. I think he earned a mulligan 😅

Every decision the brass, and Jellico made in this episode was a set up for failure. I'm not sure if it was intentional, incompetence, or some combination of the two.

Kira is so bad ass… one of my favorite characters… she’s up there with Ripley of Aliens and Sarah Connor of Terminator 2

You have to admire Garaks modesty. He said "you may have just saved". What he really should have said is "I may have just saved". Sisko was a dithering, moralizing patsy. Garak was the true man of action.

Kurn had Laforge and his team working meaningless double shifts for pointless inspections all just to troll Worf and everyone loves him... Jellico is thrown into a crisis situation, to prevent a war or prepare for one failing that... without any time for a shakedown cruise or even getting to pick his crew. "Like most Captains get to so..hell even Picard got to pick Worf and Crusher for his covert mission"..he prevents the war and gets Picard back but everyone pretends to care about shift rotations just to grind an ax. As if this was a "perfect world " situation. Jellico proves just how much people apply morality to someone just based on if they like them or not ..not actually rooted in anything other than bias.

Shades of 1984

Data: Geordi, my analysis shows it is possible to do what the Captain is requesting. Jellico: Thanks Data. Geordi, get it done. Geordi: But I don't want to tell other departments they are being shut down on power! They'll get mad and be mad at me! And I need to relax on the holodeck to meet my holo-girlfriend, I can't afford to be working double shifts! How can you do this to me!

Some of the best writing, acting, and directing in all of TREK.

marc alaimo deserves far more credit for his acting in this episode than he gets….

THAT'S HER FROM BIRTH OF THE FEDERATION!!!

Gowron expecting pushover TNG Worf, but gets implacable DS9 Worf instead.

Its not too far off...

This episode and the previous did not yo-yo your emotions. Crap was happening to Picard and crap was happening on the enterprise. It was tense emotions all the way up until the last.

I feel like that in this episode they should have separated from the saucer section and would have made it a little more interesting

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The actor playing (clean shaven)Admiral Pressman also played the father of the lady figure skater in the movie, “The Cutting Edge”. He had a thin mustache in the latter movie.

I always thought this was a cool scene. Kinda like Douglas MacArthur when he left the Philippines in WW2. "I shall return!"

Sisko should have turned Argratha into a parking lot after what they did to Chief O'Brien.

Think he wanted to put a scare in Riker bjt he kinda knew (or hoped) that in the end Riker would do the right thing

What do you expect when John Locke is on your ship?

The way the Breen talk with everyone else reminds me of one of the many speech-vs-noise exchanges you see in Star Wars, but this sort of thing is quite rare in Star Trek. The only other example I can think of is Voyager's "Warhead" episode with the bleeping device talking to the Doctor.

One of the most cowardly weapons I have ever seen. Even worse than a gun.

The more I watch Jelico the more I think what was so unreasonable about what he said or did. Yes he added more duties and shorted the time to get things done. Jelico is where he is, shortly to be an admiral because he gets things done. He was quite happy on the Carlo. His crew was used to his command style. I need everyone to their jobs to the best of thier abilities. Starfleet is not a Carribean sight seeing cruise. It is dangerous and wondrous. Something Q tried to explain. Jelico under Netchev worked a lot of Black Ops. He knows of threats no one on the Enterprise does, first. Jelico didn't complain about the transfer. He set to work. Prepare for a war footing. That's going to be much harder as officers go down and you work multiple shifts. Sick injured but at your post, no sleep. You'll wish you only had double your previous workload. Four shifts are shorter shifts but allows for more trained officers per post in case of injuries. Also fresher. Jelico is much more top down I'm the boss do as you are told. Picard is more a father figure. You aren't children. You weren't shanghaid or pressed into the fleet. You studied and worked like mad to graduate with high enough graded to not only make it to Star fleet but deep space assignments. In this case the flag ship. Maybe start as junior officers, transfer to higher posting aboard a non flagship and return as senior officer. So Jelico was right. Ship up or ship out. Give me everything till you drop so if a war starts we can go home victorious and alive.

0:50 - cheif engineer should know by then that they changed the ships role - exobiology????wow

Picard is my hero.

So Picard broke under torture. The Federation and Star Fleet were too soft. Now given that he broke to the Cardassians and the Borg, became Borg how the hell did he maintain any kind of security clearance? He should have been given a medical discharge from Star fleet. He needs to be isolated the rest of his life. He knows far too much and will spill his guts when pushed. Why didn't Picard have a cyanide capsule? Death before capture. Perhaps it's because Picard omited the truth in his report. Seems to me Picard reemed out a cadet about lies of omission. Not saying Picard needs to be locked up, but live out his days in a remote uninhabited moon.

The admiral was obviously being shady by justifying his actions by blaming those under his rank.

Its the guy from lost, lol

Like it or not, he was right.

Here in 2024. Regan was an actor. Exact same people behind Regan and Bush and... Follow the $$$$$$$$

Arguably the best episode? Terry Quinn’s a phenomenal actor. He carried Lost when it got stupid. As for Adm Pressman, he’s right - you can’t hand your greatest adversary a tactical advantage. The metaphasic cloak is beautiful, it’s breathtaking - nice to see someone at Starfleet thinking proactively.

The metaphasic cloak. Total game-changer, but goodie-goodie Starfleet has to be the galactic doormat. Why would you allow yourself to be hobbled like how the Treaty of Algeron did? 🙄

When your bro gets so mad he goes from capitalist to Commie.😢

Conquerors, warriors, honor bound, favors trial by combat frequently, am I the only one who thinks the Mandalorians and Kilngons would get alone swimmingly if they ever met? Assuming they stopped fighting long enough to find they're similarities?

No offense Sisko, you’re awesome, but you got mad at Garak for doing what had to be done, what you asked him to do, and you got holier than thou, judgmental, and assaulted him when in fact you were really mad at yourself.

"What are you going to do? Arrest me?" Fucking kek, please never change, Quark.

Picard fought to keep the Federation honourable for so many years, when it was already on its decline.

Taste the goodness of the biscuits. Taste the honey sauce …. Margret! Taste the biscuits taste her honey sauce

"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women." Worf: You should read it in the original Klingon.

And looking at the Dominion war this phased cloak would have made a huge impact

The treaty of Algeron was a very illogical course for the Federation to take simply because they could've easily defeated the Romulans. Given the strategic advantage it bestows upon a starship to spy and fight the Federation would have had an advantage by sheer size of inhabitants, starships, technology and access to resources. Logically the Federation would want a cloaking device that's even better. That way you establish a peace with an aggressive species through strength, military weakness only invites violence and invasion. Roddenberry screwed the pooch when writing that storyline. Following the canon timeline by the time we get to the Founders invasion of the alpha quadrant and they also have cloaking tech well then the Federation is looking like they are being led by incompetent leaders.

The admiral was right. Picard and the other Boy Scouts are fools.