Lets Talk .17 HMR

lets talk a little bit about the .17 hmr

[@jonasolson-ewart5672]

This is the best rundown on this rifle and caliber I've seen so far. Not the same facts getting repeated over and over again. I love the anecdotal reports and recommendations. Subscribed 👍

[@mikemagnum7987]

Here it is 2019 and just a couple of days away from Christmas, so MERRY CHRISTMAS ANDY! Because of the great success that you have had with the .17 HMR, I did go out and buy a rifle in this caliber and have been very happy that I followed your sage advice! When you shot that wolf and I watched you shoot that wolverine with a 17, I was sold... I couldn't quite believe the killing power at the time, but I knew that you are a man of your word and actions and that was good enough for me! I've been a fan for around 6 years now and really miss Ol Charly Dog... What a great dog he was! Thank you Andy for always keeping it real and bringing us your trapping adventures and the happenings around your cabin. I enjoy watching you and Eban hunting and fishing to. Every time I take my 17 out, I can't help but think of you and the Wild North! Stay safe my friend...

[@brookegermond6123]

My son-in-law has a 93 too. Me and him were shooting small ground squirrels at 250 yards. I was using a modified Browning. As far as accuracy goes, there is no difference. They both make their shooters look really good.

[@canesser1]

"Pulled the trigger" on a Savage 93R17 FVSS (stainless heavy barrel) today Andrew. You should see the arguments one way and the other on this subject with comparing it to the .22WMR. Glad I listened to you, it is a wonder of modern technology, a hybrid between centre and rim-fire. Love the way it handles and fires, heavy barrel stabilizes, accutrigger just what Savage needed for their triggers. There is a fix for the rattling/loose clip and it has to do with the small rails on the clip that mate with the metal extension on the receiver. They are slightly bent upward and outward and just need a little gentle adjusting with a pliers. Another KZbin fix.Thanks for all that you do, all the best from Manitoba.

[@markmilanowski]

This comes at a great time! .17HMR always seems to be on the shelf around here. I was just thinking "I hope Andrew puts a video out comparing the .22 mag with the .17HMR" Thanks Andrew you are da man.

[@vulcangunner58]

I'm a big fan of the .17HMR too. I bought a M93 back in the late 90s and dropped an old Weaver K4 "steel tube" scope on it. My neice (a new shooter) put 7 shots under a U.S. dime at 50 yds. at her first shoot with it! I like it to clean up woodchucks around the local dairy farms. It's got to be my most accurate "short range" rifle. Good video.

[@chrismanning217]

thelaststraw i got a new k4 on my m93 hmr it’s perfect scope for the gun

[@garyparrish9297]

Love the 17 as well. Bought my first in 2007, a Marlin bolt action. Had many jackrabbits coming in and eating the haystack after a blizzard. No recoil, could watch the tiny bullet hit! Recently bought the Savage A17...a semi with a ten shot rotary clip. Has some hiccups, but the more I shoot it, the less hiccups! Gonna make a hell of a calling gun!

[@workingclasswoodsman]

I picked mine up yesterday. I went with the Ruger American with an 18 inch barrel. I like the shorter barrel for getting thru the thick stuff. I'm only looking at 50 yard shots for my squirrels and 100 yard max for other critters, I agree that the longer heavier barrels are more accurate. I've always liked carbines for hunting in NH. I love your channel and look forward to more videos. Thanks man..

[@jeffkraft1429]

Good lil caliber. I to own a Savage. Have for years. Accuracy unbelievable tack driver. Hornady ammo. 3x9x50mm scope. Thanks for video. Jeff :)

[@rcaperobonk9392]

Picked up a model 93 after watching your channel never let me down yet, my go to gun now

[@spectralmunchkin]

Good vid. You make a good point about not having to go out and buy the most expensive stuff. personally I loved Savage rifles since my first heavy barrel .308. Cheers from interior BC

[@TheWildNorth]

yeah man some people go out and pay a dirty pile of money on a scope thinking cause it was so expensive it will make there marksmenship so much better. but really all they get is a expensive piece of shit.

[@sargefaria]

Good stuff as usual bud. Like your no BS talks.....we have similar approaches in that respect

[@TheWildNorth]

no room for bullshit eh sarge.

[@sargefaria]

right on man

[@muskrat411]

TheWildNorth Please add more BS to your next video!

[@fgovern]

TheWildNorth I agree with 1heavyhitr! Do a video on your big game rifles!

[@HWhit9000]

Thanks Andrew, all this time I was thinking you were using a .22... This explains how you can easily shoot a partridge in the head. Not so easy with a .22..

[@mtnmink]

Thanks for making the 17 HMR video, I bought one last summer and love it.

[@Gary39heli]

Hi Andrew, Nice review, You're lucky you can get ammo up there. I live in upstate NY and the politicians in this state and this country are anti-gun. Ammo is scarce if not impossible to get, I loved to hunt, and did so for over 60 years. Those days are over for me now, but your videos bring back fond memories. If I could still hunt I would definitely have one of those Savages. Love your stuff. God speed my friend.

[@elitebowman5386]

Yeah pretty much impossible to find .22Mag, or .22 anything in this state thanks to Cuomo and the other morons . central ny.

[@TheWildNorth]

i feel for you guys that really sucks

[@coast2coast00]

Reid Johnson The .22 shortage isn't due to politics.. it's that prepping has come into fashion so many people are buying 10-20,000 rounds just to have some to sit on.. The ammo manufacturers only make a small profit on .22 ammo so there isn't enough money to put into new machines to increase production(without raising prices).

[@TheWildNorth]

coast2coast00 what would a person do with 20,000 .22 rounds?

[@elitebowman5386]

coast2coast00 There isn't any hoarding in NY. Look at cabela's, Basspro, and Gander mtn websites. YOU can't even find them on their shelves . Why. cause they don't get them in. I get an ammo update from Gander Mtn. Haven't seen them get any in, in Months. You can get on their websites and look to see if they have them. THEY DON"T. Look in NYstate sites only.

[@TrailWright]

Love the presentation always. Thanks, good hunting.............

[@emilyh9076]

I just bought a Savage Axis .223 for hunting Coyotes here in the Sask prairies. It's the cheapest rifle on the market and it shot a 1 in group out of the box. It's gonna do the job, and for a small amount of money.

[@brookegermond6123]

Great video Andrew. I just found it. You tube didn't put it in my scroll when you posted it. I have to agree with you on the whole thing. I started off with a used savage and it was defective and I had to send it off to the factory. I think I mentioned it once to you. Well, that and the bad ammo that was put out in a rush, which I blamed on the savage, lead me to lose confidence in my 93. So I bought the Henry, $500. Pretty gun, bad shooter. Lever guns are only good up close. It's the way the hammer falls, the site picture moves. After 2000 rounds though, I still haven't had a jam.I get lots of complements on it though, lol. So I was still on my quest for a good reliable .17. Well, I bought the Browning heavy barrel .17....T-Bolt. The trigger wasn't nearly as good as the savage acque trigger. Nothing on the market is as good as that trigger, in any caliber. The acque trigger is probably the biggest leap forward in fire arms in the past several years. So I did some trigger work on the Brownings trigger. Got it down to 2.5 pounds. Put a 600 DOA bushnell on it and that gun is by far the greatest thing I've ever shot. But it didn't come that way. The T-Bolt is an extremely fast action to use. It's hard to go back to the savage action once you used a T-Bolt. I'd never give up that gun. Shooting it is better than drugs and smoother than whiskey. I did get the savage to work reliably. That is a fantastic gun. To out do its performance a guy has to go over $1000 and do some gun smithing. If I could have gotten a good one right off, I would have stopped right there. I would advise anyone else to start right there. Just like Andrew said. And don't buy a Browning for the gold triggers, they are plastic! And stay away from Marlin, they are having problems right now. But I would advise everyone and anyone, .17hmr is the best all around small game rifle, by far. And Andrew, I found on my savage to add a little petroleum jelly or grease to the bolt and magazine slide. It takes out the wobble and the catching. Good video!

[@artlehrer7085]

I agree its a great gun I bought a stainless steel single action revolver and I love it the 17 has a lot of stoping power close up

[@1HeavyHitr]

Hey Andrew you should do another video on your big-game rifles. There's so much controversy over adequate calibers for game like Moose. There's a craze over the magnums these days... Everyone thinks you need a cruise missile to kill a deer in Canada. So far we've seen you drop a moose with your 25-06, Black bear with your 30-30, and get rid of the 300 WinMag. It be cool just to hear your thoughts on using something like the 25-06 on moose etc. keep The videos coming man!

[@workingclasswoodsman]

I would like to hear that point of view as well. I will say a 30.06 will handle just about anything on this continent. The 25-06 is one of the most versatile rounds out there. The only thing to consider is distance. Here in NH you don't shoot much past 100 yards, most deer shot under 30 yards. If you start looking at shots over 200 yards you have to consider the game your shooting at. The 300 magnums work well at great distance on larger game and the 300 WSM is a dandy. Lots of options out there. If I had to pick one rifle it would be the 30.06.

[@workingclasswoodsman]

workingclasswoodsman the price of ammo is also a great consideration..

[@TheWildNorth]

workingclasswoodsman i reload my own shells

[@workingclasswoodsman]

That's the way to go, once you get set up it saves you quite a bit plus its fun.

[@superscaryeti]

same thing in Oregon, all my friends deer hunt with .300 win mag, I use a 6.5x55 or 243.

[@ryanmckinney81]

just bought a 17hmr and the gun dealer said that savage rifles owes andrew stanley a big thank you, gun sales on the 17hmr have went up since your show came on and almost everybody mentions your name when they buy 1. good job man. @thewildnorth

[@huntwoman1779]

great gun, very accurate, I have several guns with the pistol grip and it is a lot more of a controlling shooting and very comfortable. I sure wish they would make one with a calapse stock, I am not a big person and have short arms, I have a 12 gauge shot gun with pistol grip and calapsed stock and I can adjust to fit my reach especially with light weight or heavy weight clothing. love your programs your comment of a gun is not a toy, you are so right and glad you impress on viewers your views on guns and hunting and safety

[@Baker-tx7yg]

I have many rifles all the way from .17 HMR up to .308, and I will say that my .17 is one of the most accurate rifles that I own. Mine looks just like your new one with the thumb hole stock but mines a Marlin.

[@Outdoorsman1515]

I got one for Christmas and I love it...extremely accurate..I would choose this over a 22 any day..the only downside is the price of ammo

[@jimf1964]

22lr is still one of the best training tools, but for hunting small game, it makes life easier, and for what you do, it's perfect. The heavy barrel and decent trigger will make the gun more accurate, but I agree with you on the scope. No need for a $1000 scope. If it's good enough, it isn't a range toy or competition gun. Even the cheaper one is probably more accurate than the average shooter is anyway. Solid advice

[@Authurburns]

I agree on the .17 Savage. Been using mine for 4yrs on Squirrels and varmints. Will never go back to a 22. They are just more accurate. Darn well better be a head shot on squirrels, though, or you've got nothing left for dinner.

[@travahh4352]

I have a 17 as well, I don't see scanning your comments about the fix as far as the magazine not engaging with the bolt closed. Mine and every one off the line is that way. if you take the magazine and file down the two sides that "grab the shell casing", it will seat normal. I filed mine down with my leatherman maybe 0.010" so it isn't that difficult. Just a little at a time and then it is fixed! It was such a frustration with me as well and then I found on some web forum some guy fixing his.

[@MegaMadTrapper]

Hi Andrew, I agree with you. I shoot a model 93 now and my 22LR and my 22 Mag stay in the gun safe. Nothing better that I have heard of for shooting beavers, instant kill and only one entry hole and no exit hole. MT

[@TheWildNorth]

i only pack my .22 mag if im out or low on .17 hmr shells. most my .22s stay locked in the gun cabinet and collect dust.

[@douglasbell7985]

great informative video as always.. glad yah stayed m8.. id miss you...

[@DieZweiHunde]

Good video as usual and great info! I have been thinking about buying a .17HMR, especially with the shortage of .22LR ammo around here. Thanks for answering my question. Wes

[@jeremiahgadsby3248]

I couldnt agree with you more. I love my .17hmr, definately my favorite gun ive ever shot. I also have the savage model 93, well worth the $210!!

[@dstevenpaisley]

I have a model 93 savage works great,use it way more than my 223 cal.Also you can use hollow point shells like you do that break up in the animal or FMJ that will pierce 5/16 plate steel.

[@hunterdannblackdog]

I got the same gun very accuate. there is so much you can do to make it even more accurate. But for a trap line gun out of the box its the best

[@JeffJamesoutdoors]

I have had a 17HMR on my wishlist for a while. Hard to find them here in left hand, but when I do I will be adding it to the family

[@mitchlosier]

Glad you made a video about your rifle thanks Andrew

[@johngiff2978]

Love your videos and your no b.s. way of presenting your information. STAY STRONG

[@remraf72]

Hey Andrew, Another great vid.I REALLY liked hearing all about your Savage Model 93 17HMR. At the time of watching this video, today is January 27th, 2017, your video was at least 2 years old. Anyway, just another thought for future vid ideas is talking about your other firearms and what you carry during bear season, do you ever carry a sidearm, stuff like that. You're most likely busy as it can get with your fur season in full swing. We hope you're doing well! (Maybe you you'll get 75 lynx and 50 wolverine this season, oh yeah and throw in several wolves!) and Martin as well. Be safe.!

[@6412mars]

A badass rifle..agreed 100%...Good Advice

[@northerntimberoutdoors9319]

The 17 is fast and flat shooting great for small critters or dispatching trapped animals and way more accurate than the 22s but that being said I shoot the 22 WMR and use the Hornady 30 grain V-max. 22 WMR 2,200 fps and 322 energy > 17 HMR 2,550 fps 245 energy For me I need penetration, a lot of the time when I shoot a coyote at 100 yards the 22 mag. zips through it even both front shoulders. I can see why you use the 17 HMR though no exit wounds less pelt damage. Nice video Andrew!

[@Erated78]

You've sold me my friend. I can see me using it for grouse. Looking into it for sure. Thanks Andrew Ed

[@kingrider75]

I agree a 100%. I have a CZ 527 that I paid almost 800 dollars for and a marlin 917v that I bought for a truck gun for about 250 bucks. The CZ will usually shoot a 1 inch group at 100 yards, the cheap marlin will dump 5 shots in under a dime all day long. I was like what the fuck???

[@mikefranti2776]

I have a .17 hmr and it is accurate. I can shoot a quarter inch group at 100 yards. Not that i,m going to really need it seeing its going to be my dispatch rifle but i practiced shooting it that far just in case a coyote steps out.

[@renita1231]

Love the 17's man, great gun for sure. Cheers

[@nitro_numbnuts2197]

That's a good point compared to a 22lr cause when I shoot rats with my 22 it leaves a big whole out of the exit hole I think I'm going to switch to a 17hmf

[@TheWildNorth]

the 17 isent so good on smaller game it will take a rats head off there small enough critter the bullet does exit and wen it does it makes a hell of a mess. squirrels as well it will shred them if i shot a grouse in the middle with the 17 it would exit and take half of the breast with it as it exits

[@dafrmami]

Question for you..Off all the animals you have trapped, not killed, which is the best tasting .WHat is your recipe? Great videos!!

[@l7lll]

Great! Very informative video, man... Savage should pay you.

[@backyardmeat]

Its one of my favorite rifles, I thought It sucks to pay $10 a box...$19 ouch!....but it's almost always one shot and that's what counts

[@theNorwegianHunter1]

get a cz 455 and a 17 hmr barrel (.22 is standard) then you have the 17 hmr for hunting and the .22 for practice

[@tomm2812]

Andrew. Very nice review. Good background. Best

[@NSTRAPPERHUNTER]

Great review on the .17 hmr. I'm still using a 22 with 22 shorts. If i'm after coyotes I use my 22-250. All the best to ya, later.

[@TheWildNorth]

22-250 is a nice rifle i like them a lot!

[@trapperstrailsandtales4657]

Think the 17hmr will be my next weapon.I've carried 22 mags 22's,over and under's,etc on the line----I think you've convinced me. Thanks Bud Meetch Meetch

[@linklesstennessee2078]

good video old linkless has 3 savage cz 453 american marlin all heavy barrels good guns

[@ceadeses]

So is was being factious before he said they were a Savage rifle . The plus is ammo is still available.

[@Barbarossa4U]

Great review and sound advice!

[@ctripps1224]

I want people's opinions on .17 HMR vs. White Tail Deer?? Also scope suggestions?

[@jessepitt]

Well it’s not legal in the USA but it would work. I have shot sheep with one and it works but it’s not fool proof. I use a larger caliber now.

[@pureamericanoutdoors9253]

good video man .17hmr is a good caliber to own love my savage 93r17 i had the same gun in a .22wmr as well both are accurate rimfires

[@AlloutdoorTV]

In there a break-in period for the .17 HMR?

[@pureamericanoutdoors9253]

no break in period on the 93r17 from savage i have had this gun for a few years now and still shoots the same as i pulled it from its box

[@muskegger]

Fukeneh, i bought mine cuz of your vids. Best beaverin gun i own

[@TheWildNorth]

right on buddy!

[@alnbaba]

Savage rifles are really good right out of the box best bang for the buck.

[@mebeanonymousonytube]

My Marlin likes Remington best followed by your Hornady... I find the CCI doesn't open up as well. If it kills a wolf... who can call it a toy. ? Andy... ya going to take on a Griz with that gun :)

[@TheWildNorth]

no griz were im from buddy gotta go a few hundred mils north to find em

[@tallonburnz1430]

Heavier rifles are usually easier to hold for most guys

[@leolldankology]

Have you ever shot a northern long haired chupacabra? More grouse hunt videos please!

[@noahbergman19]

A mangy ass fox?

[@wallaceviviansadventures2095]

a good review. i am getting a new gun this year it could be a 17 hmr

[@ThaLawLess]

x2 Andrew let's see your big-game rifles. I would be interested to see what a Canadian Trapper such as yourself uses up there and your get your $.02 on why!

[@ThaLawLess]

x3

[@neegancommoner1963]

Ur my kinda guy. Cheers from manitoba !!!!

[@TheUpNorthLiving]

see your river is broken up now, mine hasn't gone yet.

[@packbadge]

It is a crime to call any firearm a toy. That is one of the very first things that people are suppose to learn with firearms, firearms are NOT toys. Who ever said this should never be able to have or handle a firearm again.

[@TheWildNorth]

i agree with you buddy!

[@noahbergman19]

I wouldn't say it's a toy,they are fun but not a toy

[@tonyxxxx2003]

Awsome Andrew thank you for the review bud

[@brigetbasta7287]

The hmr is nice but I just got .17 super mag there a bit better but ammo is way to hard to find

[@mrbluenun]

Can you explain how after getting a newer rifle as you did I believe last year, you start to get the accuracy with or without the scope. I have a really accurate German Pellet gun up to what was Olympic standard many years ago, the blueing on it is brilliant but its getting so as I can’t get a better shot than I have which is slightly low and to the left about half an inch. I have never found how to set one of these pellet guns up, where would you start. I am talking of taking the first shot as a test, and from then on taking another to see how far off it was with the first shot, but after that what to do to get what I know can be an accurate rifle, even though it is only a pellet its fine for birds and rodents up to large rabbits, how to get that crucial fine adjustment to dead spot on?

[@InfiniteOutdoors]

Nice video once again, i'm definitely considering buying one asap, its such a nice gun!! You ever throw a line out in the river and let it sit? Do pickerel, trout, or salmon, or any species alike run in that river?

[@TheWildNorth]

oh yeah i fish in the summer catch pike walley and suckers

[@dstevenpaisley]

scopes today are not they were years ago.I don't buy overly expensive scopes .My guns are used for hunting I carry them on my atv ,boat ,sitting between the seats in my truck .I care for my guns .But I dont cry when I break a 150,00 scope .

[@jamesstratton4488]

Thanks

[@HerrGesetz]

Good video man. I would like to shoot 17HMR but its to noisy for where I shoot small game, so cheap old 22 sub sonic is what ive got to stick with

[@Thelonelyscavenger]

I'm sold on the .17 HMR!!!!

[@55vdub]

Have the same rifle in stainless left hand and it instantly became my favorite rifle to shoot because of its killer accuracy and zero recoil. it has the heft of a large caliber rifle which just feels good. i'm thinking about the BSA sweet 17 but am leery of its quality. how has it held up for you?

[@GarrettBrader]

thanks for the info Andrew

[@mrbluenun]

Hi Andrew, I like guns but here in the UK it is not something I am ever likely to get my hands on with the laws being so tight. Just wondered what gun you would use if a bear got in your way, or something that probably would never happen unless its a female bear with cubs or a male trying to find new territory. Are all your guns single shot and would the 17HMR be enough to stop a bear? Do you ever get worried about any animals and especially the bear or wolf attacking?

[@Islandhuntingandoutdoors]

Ya man 17hmr is a sweet rifle

[@johannessmith3520]

hay there Andrew this is Johannes from Kaslo BC i am 15 years old and theres nothing i like beter than hunting and trapping. I am wondering what a acu triger is. I usualy carry a 1022 22lr with me but am thinking about a 17. I came close to shooting a cougar that was following me. do you think i would have stood a beter chance of taking him down witha 17 or 22 I get alot of tips from your videos thanks Johannes

[@TheWildNorth]

+Johannes Smith stick with your .22 long rifle for cougars

[@pauljones-ph9jk]

savage has a brutal clip

[@AK47Prodigy]

Hey stanley please awnser this one back in your next vid have u ever been a fan of the 22. Mag or do you like it??

[@arock428]

I hear the 17wsm isn't to bad as well.

[@nomad581]

I have too many .22 mag guns to change calibers. Have you used the light weight .22 mag hollow points? If so, do they exit on head shots? I have only used the 40 grain HPs on coyotes and they almost always exit. Leo

[@TheWildNorth]

yes they exit and leave a horrible exit hole!

[@stayingawake20]

I'm one of them that have been humming and hawing about it! How does it do in a windier environment? I hear they tumble pretty well... your thoughts Andrew?

[@georgezustak8435]

I have the Savage 93r in 22mag. It's a tack-driver. Shoots sub MOA at 100 yards. I am considering another rifle in 17HMR so your video was quite timely. Other viewers have mentioned the new .17 Winchester Super Mag. This is also a rimfire that is a lot hotter load than the 17HMR (which is a necked down 22 mag casing). But so far everything I have read says that the new 17 WSM is inherently much less accurate than the little 17HMR. Caution: If the 17HMR is used for point blank dispatch then be advised that the bullet will usually fragment on impact and the likelihood of fragments spraying back at you is a very real possibility. Just ask some of the guys on the program "Swamp People". Many of them have used the 17HMR for close range dispatch and have been injured by richocheting fragments. Most of the alligator guys have gone back to the 22 mag or a centerfire.

[@northwestintegrityconstruc1075]

Is that a Boyd's laminated stock on you .17 model 93? If so do you notice a difference in the point of impact throughout the changing seasons?

[@virtualguitarist]

Nice caliber review! Is the one with the pistol grip a savage? I will get a .17 HMR one of these days for rabbits and squirrels.

[@TheWildNorth]

yes they are both savage model 93r

[@virtualguitarist]

Cool thanks for the quick reply!

[@oliverbrancourt95]

have u seen the new 17 super mag ?

[@warbridle]

Which model 93r? There are a few.

[@arock428]

I use my 93 more then any other rifle. Wish I was allowed to shoot beavers where I'm from.

[@jerryseeley276]

Do you ever hunt grouse with it?

[@nomlasrellik7286]

A clip is something you put in your hair, that is a magazine.

[@TheWildNorth]

yeah buddy you may notice I use a lot of Canadian slang in my videos!

[@denesavage9993]

They are awesome guns an I just got one a few days ago I can’t wait to kill something with it probably chickens or geese

[@mdh6977]

right on bro!!!

[@550grizzly11]

Hey Andrew what do u think of .22mag?

[@TheWildNorth]

i think there a great rifle! i own one i bought it for hunting wolves they get some good distance Pack a nice punch. i dont use it too often though.

[@rednecklowlife]

You heard of the super .17 ?

[@TheWildNorth]

no but i heard of the .17 hornet bigger caseing about the size of a 222

[@QuitsArtist821]

Can u do all ur guns plz jerrett Alberta

[@TheWildNorth]

maybe over time yes

[@irishtrapper1961]

My .17 is accurate to 150 yards,shoot a lot of fox,rabbits and crows with it

[@TheWildNorth]

yes mine also as long as theres no wind its very accurate at 150 yards

[@ceadeses]

So who makes those Ruger?

[@TheWildNorth]

i guess i could have mentioned in the video they are made by savage. .17 hmr savage model 93r

[@ceadeses]

TheWildNorth I know just being a dick.

[@TheWildNorth]

marc sene ha ha ok