The Ideal Home Server! Is it Possible?

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@MrMunkyMeat
@MrMunkyMeat Жыл бұрын
I am noticing a pattern where I will watch a Level1 video then spend the following 2 or 3 hours researching a build list.
@gavination_domination
@gavination_domination Жыл бұрын
It's all fun and games until you end up hitting Submit on a full cart.
@Outland9000
@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын
@@gavination_domination _yeaaaaaah..._ 😬
@deviantflux
@deviantflux Жыл бұрын
I ought to start tracking my homelab spend, tagging things with L1 and do some chargebacks to Wendell
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 Жыл бұрын
Just check bank account before giving in to the urge to make a build list. Just as depressing, but saves time 😜
@Outland9000
@Outland9000 Жыл бұрын
@@deviantflux 😆
@haxwithaxe
@haxwithaxe Жыл бұрын
Let's all imagine how filthy rich Wendel would need to be to have more money than sense.
@upgrayedd251
@upgrayedd251 Жыл бұрын
even cookie clicker couldnt count high enough
@Lightscribe721
@Lightscribe721 Жыл бұрын
This is such an oddly wholesome compliment, I hope he sees it haha
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 Жыл бұрын
🤯
@Zaf9670
@Zaf9670 Жыл бұрын
“You see this lake? It’s for the computer!!!” *Wendell freak out face*
@HALFLIFETRUTHER
@HALFLIFETRUTHER Жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best compliments one can ever receive.
@Maelman1
@Maelman1 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see two different videos on home storage servers. One covering 2 - 4u power-efficient, rack-mounted servers that hold as much storage as possible and are suitable for media, virtualization and even hosting VM's via TrueNAS scale. The second video covering power-efficient storage servers for people who don't have a rack and need a good looking quiet server that has a lot of capacity.
@gustersongusterson4120
@gustersongusterson4120 Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, ATX in a tower with room for a lot of HDDs is the best value still. It takes up a bit more space but everything costs less than MATX or ITX. The ICYDOCK stuff is really cool, but also really expensive for what it is.
@julian.morgan
@julian.morgan Жыл бұрын
Icydock have a range with plastic rather than metal sleds that are a bit cheaper, but I agree they're still very over priced. I've had reasonable results with Olmaster 2.5" cages/sleds that are a better deal. I agree about ATX - I'd much rather spend the money on quality ATX components over paying a premium for small form factor.
@veneratedmortal4369
@veneratedmortal4369 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I have a gpu for plex, 10gbe nic, says card etc in my server. Need space, need pcie.
@octothorpian_nightmare
@octothorpian_nightmare Жыл бұрын
I've had really good luck scoring Icy dock cages on eBay, like the 3x3.5" sleds that fit in a double 5.25 slot. Not the best storage density, but big 3.5" drives are pretty cheap.
@aaronbreeden6898
@aaronbreeden6898 Жыл бұрын
I love that Wendell just casually suggests writing a system linux module for getting your memory errors into ipmi, that's not level1 that's graybeard level lol
@dennisaston3551
@dennisaston3551 Жыл бұрын
The follow on builds / videos to this one can't come fast enough for me. I am so very ready to do this same thing.
@mattybbg6850
@mattybbg6850 Жыл бұрын
Very happy to see Sliger getting a mention, there cases are underrated and under reviewed, love my SM550 case.
@logskidder5655
@logskidder5655 Жыл бұрын
Yes the Intel 4x3.5" or even 8x3.5" and 8x2.5" hot swap drive cages are available for cheap, but they can be a pain to use. Drive access is controlled (via signals on the SATA / SAS connectors) by the micro (typically a Cypress CY8C22545) on the PCB which is usually controlled by the Intel motherboards BMC via the I2C interface (white 5 pin connectors). So to use these cages you need to either hack the I2C, micro or PCB. None of which are great options for the uninitiated. Another options is to just remove the PCB and use regular cables to the drives which is easily done but also removes the hot swap option.
@richardallankellogg
@richardallankellogg Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the idea of 6-5.25” drive bays.
@M_Gargantua
@M_Gargantua Жыл бұрын
I love the idea, I didn't even realize the 5.25" bay thing until you brought it up, and I think its genius.
@Andernerd
@Andernerd Жыл бұрын
My normal go-to platform for home server stuff would be an old gaming system that myself or a friend is trying to get rid of for cheap.
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel Жыл бұрын
I got an OG Antec Nine Hundred in 2007 or 2008 for gaming and used it as a fileserver enclosure until a few years ago. Still have it standing around here somewhere too. The Antec Nine Hundred was a "Premium" gaming case back then, going for the spectacularly high 100€ mark. (for the time 100€ was expensive for a case ...) Man, our hobby has gotten silly expensive.
@cconnors
@cconnors Жыл бұрын
Wendel I haven't been able to watch a video in awhile but I just wanted to say, you're so damn skinny! Way to go! I know that's insanely hard work that barely gets noticed over time but seeing it all in one go, like damn you're almost another person! Congrats, and I hope you keep it up.
@plapbandit
@plapbandit Жыл бұрын
That RAM tester is absolute genius
@TeddyBearKilla
@TeddyBearKilla Жыл бұрын
"Don't speak to me or my son again" perfect.
@matjam421
@matjam421 Жыл бұрын
I have this case and the Node 304, but now my go to home server case is the SilverStone Technology CS351. It supports mATX motherboards while still being compact, so you can have a GPU and a 10gbe nic. Plus the 5 bays are hot swappable.
@michaeljolley6773
@michaeljolley6773 Жыл бұрын
I've watched at least 100 to 150 videos kinda like this but this was exactly what I was looking for.
@toadbroz30
@toadbroz30 Жыл бұрын
You are hitting all the right pain points. I ended up getting a used case off of facebook marketplace. The kid I bought it from seemed like he never did anything but pull it out of the box to look at it. I can't remember the brand or model for the case but it has room for 10 HDD's and more expansion for the 5 inch bays. I'm ready to get it up and running but the old i5 4000 motherboard I have for it only has 4 sata ports. The only motherboard that really interested me were the ASRock ones used here. I haven't convinced myself to put the money up for a new motherboard, cpu and ram just yet.
@pincombe
@pincombe Жыл бұрын
I've ended up with a Synology NAS and a separate mini PC setup. I went through all this home server stuff before realizing I wanted two different things from my home server setup. Firstly I wanted absolute stability and availability for my storage. I didn't like the opportunity for backups to fail, lost data, or even slow data access. Separately, though, I wanted a server I could absolutely hammer with transcoding and compiling something I could do experiments with and not think in the back of my mind. Eventually I would like like to upgrade my mini PC into something more SFF sized so I can gain some extra performance but mini PCs consume so little power that there will always be some use for one.
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden Жыл бұрын
By the way, SATA Ports wise, you can always get a couple 1 to 5 sata port expanders, I actually used one with a BananaPI M1 so I could connect 5 disks to a single SATA Port with SATA PMP enabled being the one trick needing to be done. Not the fastest solution though will work in most cases where the disks do not saturate the single sata port.
@Jefferderp
@Jefferderp Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you getting healthier! Looking good.
@MikeHawk1969
@MikeHawk1969 Жыл бұрын
is dude melting away? Looking good my man
@bikerchrisukk
@bikerchrisukk Жыл бұрын
I've got 2 of those Antec 900's with a load of 5.25in trayless caddys. Great thing and it was super cheap a few years ago.
@RahulSharma-bh1ux
@RahulSharma-bh1ux 8 ай бұрын
glad to see I m not the only one searching for a case design that does not exist
@thebrainfan
@thebrainfan Жыл бұрын
m-ATX is the way to go, totally agree. I have an Asrock b450m pro4 with 32GB of DDR4 ECC unbuffered and a R5 2600. Works great with Truenas.
@СусаннаСергеевна
@СусаннаСергеевна Жыл бұрын
I agree with mATX for home servers. The extra space at the bottom is perfect for some extra drives. What I did with my racked NAS was 3D print some hotswap cages and stick them to the bottom with double sided tape. Pick an mATX board with extra PCIe slots rather than extra M.2 though, even if they are only a single lane. Each PCIe3 lane can do 1GB/s, meaning it’ll support 3-5 SATA HDDs before becoming bottlenecked (assuming each drive does between 200 and 300 MB/s in a sequential read, which is my experience with NAS drives). Each M.2 slot then is costing you an awful lot of potential 20TB HDDs. Kudos to Wendell for making me get Optane for a metadata special device, too. I didn’t think it would do anything noticeable over Ethernet, but that was entirely wrong and the improvement in latency is nothing short of incredible. Definitely you want two M.2 slots, so you can use fast modern storage for your metadata and small files. Even if you’re not getting optane it’ll be a huge boost.
@marcin_karwinski
@marcin_karwinski Жыл бұрын
This is where ASRock Rack mITX Epyc board comes to the rescue... with PCIe4x16 slot standard and 6xPCIe4x8 over miniSAS if I recall correctly... with 2x of those PCIe4x8 being splittable to a total of like 16xSATA drives... before you factor in any AiCs with storage controllers or networking or eg. media transcoding acceleration (maybe Intel ARCs or similar, once some lower power option becomes available, elsewise T400 or T600, or - wishful thinking - Alveo u30), this looks great, only the cost of the mITX ASRock Rack board with Rome (or newer) even lower-core-count lower-TDP Epycs may scare most... And that's before you factor DIMMs and storage itself.
@dennisaston3551
@dennisaston3551 Жыл бұрын
I would love to find a series that dealt with a solid state setup. I am looking at something that would be good in an RV or on a boat as I am looking to put movies and music on it. It needs to handle vibration and preferably have a passive cooling setup. This would mainly be a NAS setup and then duplicated for a pfSense node. Passive cooling because moist saltwater air eats electronics and passive would slow that down a bit. Also would like to do SFP+ connections.
@chillin_chicken
@chillin_chicken Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for an updated storage server video!
@tankgrrl
@tankgrrl Жыл бұрын
I still have two Chenbro SR30169 cases and, honestly, with the 4 front-load hot-swap SATA bays, they make fabulous SFF servers.
@m4dizzle
@m4dizzle Жыл бұрын
Asrock has a mini-ITX board that supports LGA 3647, looks interesting and those 2nd-gen Scalable processors are fairly inexpensive on the used market these days
@treyquattro
@treyquattro Жыл бұрын
"right now it's a virtual machine on a more powerful system." If it's Wendell then it's Threadripper!
@telos7537
@telos7537 Жыл бұрын
Currently migrating to a Node804 for my server, and pairing it with the MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI. With 8 onboard SATA ports and 2 M.2 slots, it's got plenty of storage. Plus the case can fit a slimline optical drive which is perfect for ripping media directly on the server. To top it off, the mobo has 4 16x slots. I'll be adding a 10G card, GPU for transcoding, and maybe down the line some more storage cards.
@davidg5898
@davidg5898 Жыл бұрын
Like you, my only lament of these home NAS and media server cases is the lack of drive bay accessibility from outside. Opening up the whole machine for a drive swap is inconvenient, even if it makes for a prettier looking system. I currently use and old Acer EasyStore H340 chassis (4 bays). It is standard ITX but needs (a) some wiring modification for (some of) the front panel buttons/lights to work, (b) a really low profile CPU cooler, and (c) a carefully measured out flex PSU or a pico-PSU. I have it running intel 6th gen, mostly for NAS, non-transcoding media, and VM duties.
@AntonyWilliams
@AntonyWilliams 10 ай бұрын
what I'd like to see. A homemade server with 8 3.5" drives, and a modern intel CPU (with quick sync). 2.5Gb network. In a case like the Silverstone CS381. I'm planning to build something like this in the next month
@laneromel5667
@laneromel5667 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used dual xeon lga-3647, installed 2 m.2 expasion cards populated with 8 m.2 drives of 4 tb each. Enough storage for me. I use the system for vm's and as a storage server. Extremely fast for me, the server was quite economical as well, still have 2 more pciex16 slots left over for more storage if required.
@amalgroki
@amalgroki Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Fractal Design Node 804. Could fit 8x3.5 drives and PSU on one side then on the other is your MATX board and the rest of the system.
@veneratedmortal4369
@veneratedmortal4369 Жыл бұрын
I'm moving towards getting a rack server. I have a bit of network gear a backup server a application server and all the ups stuff. Not really worth having a server unless it's 24-7 and you need a ups for that. A rack mount is the only real option at this point.
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 Жыл бұрын
I am looking at the Supermicro A2SDi-H-TF Motherboard. It's the same one used in iX Systems home servers. It has everything you need on one board.
@NamesGolden
@NamesGolden Жыл бұрын
I have two of those Intel cages and a rosewill cage in a old atx case. Now lays flat for eventual use in a rack. Adaptec 3016 / omv / mergerfs / snapraid I cut out most of the case front/bays and just bolted the cages in. Sealed the gaps with painters tape so the rear fans pull air across all drives. Ugly, but works. You should list the models of everything mentioned so people can search easier. I snagged my cages for about 35 but that was pre chia
@grocerylist
@grocerylist Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with my HP Microserver Gen10 Plus with a Xeon E-2336 & 64gb ECC RAM. Smaller than a Node304, iLo, it's great for Proxmox.
@HERETIC529
@HERETIC529 Жыл бұрын
I know this is crazy but I’d love to see you rip out the drives of the jonsebo and convert the sled area to 5.25” bays that you can cram a ton of that icy dock m.2 sleds in. Don’t you have some m.2 optane?
@LCTRgames
@LCTRgames Жыл бұрын
"I do not yet have more money than sense"... *checks twitter to see Wendell buying enough Optane to insulate a small house*
@fatchobok0
@fatchobok0 Жыл бұрын
I love running my X470D4U with my 8 hotswap bay U-NAS NSC-810A, but I've been tempted to cut some drives and try out the Jonsbo N2. Curious if you have the N2 coming down the pipeline, cause I really feel like this would be the one to keep an eye out for the ideal home NAS. I was contemplating the N2 with one of the ASRock ITX X570 server boards.
@mjmeans7983
@mjmeans7983 Жыл бұрын
In the pictures of the new case I noticed that the vanes on the SPU cooler were at right angles to the air flow. That doesn't seem optimal.
@TheBurnsStuff
@TheBurnsStuff Жыл бұрын
I really dig the music in your videos!
@andrewr7820
@andrewr7820 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Not sure folks understand the implications of a RAID5 or RAIDZ1 vs RAID1/10 rebuild with those monster drives. It will (a) take an extremely long time (and you better not lose power during...) and (b) a SECOND drive could fail during the rebuild. Also some mention of NAS software choices and filesystem choices (ZFS vs MDADM/LVM/Ext). Oh, and the whole "RAID is not a backup" discussion. New DIY-NAS builders are not considering the cost of backing up all of that data-hoarder goodness.
@burnout2125
@burnout2125 Жыл бұрын
I've been living this exact pain the last several weeks and settled on the Jonsbo N2 (awaiting for it to ship). It bugged me bad how design trends have removed drive bays from cases and the N1 or N2 are the only relatively modern cases that allow a fair home NAS build. One delightful product I am interested in is a LP PCI-E daughter board with both a Coral accelerator for Frigate, and a zigbee coordinator. Yes USB is a thing, but in all honesty its like the NAS has hemorhoids hanging out its back panel and it would look esspecially bad with the N1. Hardware wise I've gone AM4 with a R3 4300G and Gigabyte A520i & 16Gb of 3200 corsair, which upn delivery this week i was smashed with buyers remorse knowing a J5040 Pentium would most likely fit my needs with far less power draw. From my point of view I'd like to see you build the lowest power draw system
@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar
@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar Жыл бұрын
😂 all those cdroms omg. Those hotswaps at least one with fans. I would like one since I found a HAF 932 6 bays empty no sound bay. 20a build 🙏
@Ray88G
@Ray88G Жыл бұрын
Would love to see cheap 4th gen Amd epyc workstation build
@nectarinetangerineorange
@nectarinetangerineorange Жыл бұрын
i use x2 (icydock) 5.25in bay hotswap docks + x12 2.5in sata ssds + a pcie x16 card with a switching chip, 6 sata controllers, & x24 sata ports perfect combo for inexpensive zfs storage.
@BurtTMacklin-fbi
@BurtTMacklin-fbi Жыл бұрын
Excellent. I have a lot of linux isos that I need to store and keep safe.
@kuro68000
@kuro68000 Жыл бұрын
I think you could prototype your ideal case with aluminium extrusions. And/or 3D printing.
@fanshaw
@fanshaw Жыл бұрын
Need at least 2 x16 PCIE - one for the networking (probably and old PCIE gen3 server card), and one for the SSD carrier card - preferably pcie gen4 to provide redundant SSDs.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman Жыл бұрын
The problem I have with those 5.25 HDD enclosures is that most require active cooling but don't have fan redundancy. I don't want the HDDs to overheat if something goes wrong.
@leebenningfield
@leebenningfield Жыл бұрын
Yo, I still have one of those Antec 900 cases, and a slightly slimmer Antec with all the drive bays but without the 200mm top fan.
@qazwsx000xswzaq
@qazwsx000xswzaq Жыл бұрын
PCIe lanes are the greatest problem I faced when I built my not-so-home server with a bunch of retired enterprise U.2 SSDs. I eventually have to go for EPYC.
@javiej
@javiej Жыл бұрын
EPYC? More than a home-lab that sounds like a home data-center
@qazwsx000xswzaq
@qazwsx000xswzaq Жыл бұрын
@@javiej You can grab those low clock low core count Zen2 (even Zen3) EYPC without breaking the bank. What I need is the PCIe connectivity after all.
@javiej
@javiej Жыл бұрын
@@qazwsx000xswzaq yeah maybe you can get one of those cheap, but for using a data center server at home you still have to solve the size issue , the noise issue, the energy consumption issue, and specially the wife factor...
@redtails
@redtails Жыл бұрын
I get what he's saying but prices have become insane. 400+ € for just a mainboard is really a lot more than what it used to be. By the time you're done configuring even a basic server with maybe 4× hdd, you're into 2000+ € territory
@gtacrypto9805
@gtacrypto9805 Жыл бұрын
this is my brand of comedy through and through lol
@cabanur
@cabanur Жыл бұрын
I've been looking into building an AMD-based 4-6 HDD NAS for months now. The Jonsbo case is great, but it only fitting mini ITX boards means I'd have to go consumer-grade, which I hear don't always boot without a display. I also looked at the build Wendell did for GamersNexus, but that case is expensive and hard to work with, on top of it being a lot bigger than I need. The DIY case you proppose here could be interesting if I had the tools, knowledge and time to build something like that. There really don't seem to be tat many options.
@alanchankw
@alanchankw Жыл бұрын
Jonsbo released N2 case a few months ago,same as N1,but a horizontal case,instead of a vertical case like N1. Maybe you guys will do a build with the N2?
@camplays487
@camplays487 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the new N2? I think that could be an interesting choice
@andrewlong7578
@andrewlong7578 Жыл бұрын
All the new motherboards with 2.5Gb nics is awesome for all the people with new 2.5/5/10Gb switches but it's useless for anyone who's rocking an old enterprise 10Gb only switch. I wish the motherboards came with the selectable nics so it could slot into whatever infrastructure we have. I shelled out for a X470 Taichi Ultimate for that reason. I've also been eyeing that Asrock board for years.
@sjukfan
@sjukfan Жыл бұрын
9:03 Unfortunately it's a bit hard to find mini tower cases with 3 5.25 bays.
@libertine5606
@libertine5606 Жыл бұрын
It's 24/7 so energy is important.
@NPzed
@NPzed Жыл бұрын
I would be really interested in a comparison between the AMD (7000 series?) and Intel platforms (i3-12xxx?) targeting lowest power (because power is heat/noise) but trying to max performance/functionality in the Jonsbo!
@_sneer_
@_sneer_ Жыл бұрын
my 13600kf at idle or just surfing the net consumes only 14w as indicated by hw monitoring programs. I don't think AMD can top that, as at low CPU usage Intel parks P cores and uses only E cores. But even some older T versions of Intel CPUs would not consume much power.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
the 12100 is amazing performance and low power to boot, topping out at like 58W... lets just say I love mine :D
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if using rack mounted hardware is cheaper in the long run for expansion.
@MultiYogibear
@MultiYogibear Жыл бұрын
given that I using an old hp rack as my home server with regular seagate 3.5 inch 4tb drives and a pair xeon 6-core processor's. 10th gen intel is looking really good, especially with quicksync
@TheAnon03
@TheAnon03 Жыл бұрын
My home server's going to be my old machine in the old Cosmos "s" Sport case. To be converted when I can afford a new main machine.
@cabanaeggy
@cabanaeggy Жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem at all!!! *glances over at his 300TB worth of NAS storage*
@bhume7535
@bhume7535 Жыл бұрын
How insane is it to use a Z170 board with an 8th gen aliexpress laptop CPU in it for a storage server? I have 3 960gb Micron 5100s hooked into the SATA and a couple of SAS hard drives on a 9211-8i all chilling in a Fractal R5. I've done all but install an OS. TrueNAS or Linux or what? I want redundancy above all else and I have been on the fence about what to choose.
@LiebJohnson
@LiebJohnson 11 ай бұрын
Looking to set up an "office quiet" energy efficient Ceph cluster. I have 3 empty SuperMicro rack cases with a SAS 12gb backplane. Looking to put a motherboard in which has just enough processing power to handle the storage. (Will use NUCs for proxmox containers). Looking for a solution which has the SAS connectivity, two Ethernet connections (with at least one 10g). Have you ever speced something like this?
@kaih.4687
@kaih.4687 Жыл бұрын
i'm actually considering going down in size, from an old i3-6100 mATX desktop to an odroid h3 or something low(ish) cost low power like that, it's just being used as a nas and a jellyfin server, so nothing too crazy, maybe once they bring out a new gen, so i can get a performance uplift too
@froster007
@froster007 Жыл бұрын
In the video you referenced a build with multiple dvd drives for archiving. Any possible link to the video
@bryanv.2365
@bryanv.2365 Жыл бұрын
Best cold open ever! Insta-thumbs up!
@chaosfenix
@chaosfenix Жыл бұрын
So the biggest thing is that I honestly think we can start moving away from SATA and spinning disks. The cheapest m.2 drives (intel 670p) are down to 4c/GB which is where HDDs were in 2015. Yes spinning drives are down to about 1.5c/GB so they are still 2x the price but that is honestly not bad considering the other creature comforts you gain by moving to SSD. Personally I would like to start seeing more pcie lanes in consumer products. On the flip side, with pcie 5.0 we also could drop down to a single pcie lane for bulk storage. 3500MBps should be fine for home server use. I shouldn't have to go with a threadripper just so I can get enough lanes for storage.
@jamesbuckwas6575
@jamesbuckwas6575 Жыл бұрын
Well for 1 or 2 TB drives, even 4 TB, SSDs can make sense if you're okay with spending hundreds of dollars on storage (rather than a 500GB SSD and 2 TB HDD for under $100). But even for smaller-scale systems that require terabytes upon terabytes of storage, buying either 5 or more SSDs for only a 10+ TB RAID array or a massive 15 TB SATA SSD are both incredibly inconvenient. For systems with many dozens of TB, whose main concern is mass storage rather than bandwidth, hard drives still rule the roost, and will for several more years until they can reach the low prices and still-importantly, high density of HDDs. I would never think to buy SSDs for a plex server or file server unless I'm storing no more than 1 TB of data once I factor in redundancy and backups.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbuckwas6575 I'm pretty sure SSDs are higher density (meaning storage per volume) than HDDs. Cost and known failure types are the reasons I'm still using HDDs.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
with that 8 bay nvme thingie.... could easilly slap it full of 2tb nvme's so 16TB total in 1 5,25" slot or if you are a bit richer the 4tb drives... even just buying them over time is doable...
@benroberts2222
@benroberts2222 Жыл бұрын
I can buy 4 TB mechanical disks refurbished for $40-50 each. For bulk storage SSDs just aren't worth 3-4x the price, keeping in mind both types of drives wear out and need to be replaced; I don't want to be committed to expensive replacements when a disk dies. I will say the biggest advantage of M.2 SSDs is the lack of SATA cable, which cause lots of problems in disk arrays.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
@@benroberts2222 if it is for "bulk" storage... SSD's don't really wear out since they are just storing stuff... they wear out if you keep writing to them but you were just storing stuff... I still use my 10 year old ssd to this day... yes it is worn a bit but still works great
@SyberPrepper
@SyberPrepper Жыл бұрын
Great video. Really gets the gears turning. what if you want to run 12 drives. Are you forced to go to a SAS controller?
@TechWithMarc
@TechWithMarc Жыл бұрын
Cries in only having a 4TB NAS - and one of my discs died yesterday, ah well, just got to save up for new drives
@peegee101
@peegee101 Жыл бұрын
So I build my NAS with the Jonsbo N1 and a nice CM4 board called Axzez Interceptor carrier board. From the wall this consumes about 14 watts in idle (spinning rust down), runs on a proper ATX PSU and is powerful enough to run ZFS and some containers and applications (Jelly, InfluxDB, Grafana and a few others). Wouldn't that be more or less the ideal hybrid?
@SuperMari026
@SuperMari026 Жыл бұрын
I have this case on my list because, as you said it: support for 5 x 3.5 which is nutty! Probably going to pair it with the MSI MAG B660M Mortar WiFi!
@marcelovidal4023
@marcelovidal4023 Жыл бұрын
Building a xeon 2697av4 for server with a fujtsu motherboard d3348-b23. Will try put 160tb raid 5 and some dual 10gb nics
@saultube44
@saultube44 Жыл бұрын
20 TB HDD?! I have 5 HDDs totalling 12 TB and 2x 3 TB HDDs are not out of their bag yet, hoarding wow 😁👍
@ArneMandell
@ArneMandell Жыл бұрын
Use the Sliger rackmount
@oddball_the_blue
@oddball_the_blue Жыл бұрын
My ideal home chassis is still the HP Gen7 microserver. If only someone did a modern motherboard/PSU that could be swapped into it...
@flammablewater1755
@flammablewater1755 Жыл бұрын
For a build like this, what’s the lowest idle wattage CPU for an always-on NAS / Plex server?
@isrealrathburn
@isrealrathburn Жыл бұрын
wendel lookin good brother dont think i aint notice
@SteveBrownRacing
@SteveBrownRacing Жыл бұрын
I need a good rack mount case for a file server with a bunch of 3.5" sata drives that I seem to be collecting... But IcyDock and an old desktop case are soooo much cheaper :(
@johnnyxp64
@johnnyxp64 Жыл бұрын
Bought a new smart Oled tv no so smart that doesn't detect my old 2bay NAS and its media server. I was thinking to go to a ready solution Qnap or Synology 2-4 bay but the cost can be from 280-600€. I have many spare pc parts at home and i am missing a good mini motherboard for AM4 and a case and a psu to make my own... Those videos are indeed goldmine but finding those cases in Europe is pain in the ...
@GTFour
@GTFour Жыл бұрын
Strange that board has a solder space they didn’t solder the extra 2 SATA connector for 2 more SATA ports too
@EKGunnarsson
@EKGunnarsson Жыл бұрын
You should get LTT labs to fabricate your dream case👌
@enzofx8954
@enzofx8954 Жыл бұрын
Itx needs to expand in storage space. Or rather, the diy nas space needs to expand. However it probably doesn’t because almost everyone would just go rack mount. I want to see Itx motherboards and backplanes embrace sas that can allow expansion. Or nuc like devices with a pcie port for an hba card. The storage space is also in a weird space. High end is moving away from drives and embracing nvme. When will we see a backplane with 24 m.2 ports? In the consumer space? Just dreams right now. I’m actually going to diy my own setup. I have to. There are no neat options in the WAF area or practical use cases or out of the way type solutions.
@airtesamaviation
@airtesamaviation Жыл бұрын
Hey did you try the OWC 10GBE pcie 1x NIC?
@Wayofthelao
@Wayofthelao Жыл бұрын
My addiction to buying tech gets worse every time I watch these videos lol
@Idpancakethat
@Idpancakethat Жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the title for the CD rom server ?
@badharrow
@badharrow Жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain the Alan Malvontano reference? He was from PC Perspective yeah?
@pr0jectSkyneT
@pr0jectSkyneT Жыл бұрын
Hi Wendell. Have you reviewed the OWC PCIE 4.0 x1 10Gbe NIC (OWCPCIE10GB)? It's using a Marvell Aquantia AQC113CS chip.
@Veptis
@Veptis 8 ай бұрын
I want to have a home server/workstation that can run 34B (or Mixtral7x8 maybe) language models at bf/fp16. Is there anything other than dual RTX 6000 Ada which cost 12k each? As for cases, I really like how the Silverstone RM52 looks.
@anthonyrubio1194
@anthonyrubio1194 Жыл бұрын
what's the model number for the power supply it looks small form factor from the video but couldn't tell
@789654123654789
@789654123654789 Жыл бұрын
I echo your complaint about every single 2-bay unit on the market. Why not 3, so you can do RAID6 in a sleek package?
@VitalVampyr
@VitalVampyr Жыл бұрын
Running RAID6 on only 3 drives is just paranoid, you'd have more redundancy than storage.
@Nick-zb4yo
@Nick-zb4yo Жыл бұрын
Can you try to put a Pi kvm in the Jonesboro case?
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