Yup, this really just helped me figure out playing your line against the track . Truly exceptional concept this , Evan you really are the guy who’s opened the bass back up for me . Oh squarepusher started me of on the crazy train to back in 93 when squarepusher theme was first released , Tom Jenkinson serious original player , just like your good self bro . Legend
@Shitockiful3 жыл бұрын
I get chills listening to this album
@blairhicks27403 жыл бұрын
When you play with Tigran - do you have sheet music / charts or do you figure it all out by ear?
@wkingston12484 жыл бұрын
The back beat on the kick and snare also becomes really important in giving context to the classic tigran thing where there, for periods of seemingly arbitrary length, there is silence. But when you follow the kick and snare it always comes in exactly on the beat. This is what i find so amazing about tigran, he manages to give a foundation for the listener to feel a grove, but builds crazy nearly indistinguishable rythms ontop. Yet it still feels catchy and approachable to the listener. I loved this video, great work. It really gives me a better understanding of possibly my new favorite song from tigran.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Yea he is amazing at this! Happy you liked it
@UkuleleAversion4 жыл бұрын
"This is what i find so amazing about tigran, he manages to give a foundation for the listener to feel a grove, but builds crazy nearly indistinguishable rythms ontop. Yet it still feels catchy and approachable to the listener." Soooooo true. It's why I keep coming back, his music grooves in a way I haven't found in other musicians.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
@@UkuleleAversion He is #1 at this. He actually takes the time to REALLY dig into all these rhythmic horizons, digest them, and only composes music after he totally masters them . That's why it can be so under the radar.
@andrewng79324 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay Disclaimer: I mean this in the most complimentary way possible - it's hard to put into words how highly I think of his music. Tigran at his most intricate feels to me like if somebody took the time to precisely transcribe Meshuggah onto sheet music, then layered on even more polymeters, but with painstaking care to make sure it all grids out to consistent cycles of time signatures if you listen long enough (even though it's not necessarily 4/4 like the typical ear is accustomed to hearing), with a dollop of Armenian folk for good measure. I'm hard pressed to think of another artist in any genre outside of Meshuggah themselves that's so good at making syncopated polymeter groove in a way that's still remotely followable.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewng7932 Nailed it. He's epic. Constantly improving, and always surprising!
@idudditz34274 жыл бұрын
"Im a drummer you shouldn't listen to me when it comes to money" 😂
@HelloIamClay3 жыл бұрын
Shades of Strong Bad on that one, for sure.
@Fire27hun4 жыл бұрын
This is so well produced, i'm amazed! The little cardboard instruments are great haha
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@zach_mizzi3 жыл бұрын
42 is the meaning of life had me laugh so loud! Hahaha great videos!!
@andrewng79324 жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing it all out for us in a very followable manner. The kick-snare "two bar time signature" explains why I was hearing such a smooth groove, especially in context with the cymbal over the top. Such a sweet way to put a followable pulse under all that madness.
@timberfinn4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I would love to hear more Tigran analysis from you! I hadn’t noticed the 42 so that was a trip lol
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Oh you will for sure.
@terrarium_minded4 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay 🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️
@jorgebermejo37083 жыл бұрын
Great work, thank you!
@matty007d Жыл бұрын
Amazing, truly amazing
@gregcoles91753 жыл бұрын
hey man - you are a great teacher! You scaffolded the learning so clearly! And the video editing is great too! Amazing work!
@22ddo3 жыл бұрын
Oh word I can't believe you did a Tigran video! I love his music!!
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
Oh you'd be happy with the next few weeks
@22ddo3 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay keep up the great work brother! I have a degree in music but this is the one place on KZbin I come to keep learning!
@egorre14 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine better way to explain this song, thank you!
@alexchaix16133 жыл бұрын
lol im back to see this video a few time later and now im know this awesome drummer that are explain this video and before i had no clue that its so talente
@jacqueminot72243 жыл бұрын
Been studying your videos for some time and they help my drumming immeasurably. Thanks for all the great content.
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
Rock on!
@BoogieBoyBrown4 ай бұрын
mAN, YOU TOOK THAT PIECE APART JUST HOW i NEED TO SEE IT! eXCELLENT JOB!
@owlishfilms Жыл бұрын
Found the album by chance and been playing it for study music but i cant focus bc Im obsessing over the time signature and came youtubing for it - THANK YOU SO MUCH! Now i can go back to study in peace!
@YogevGabay Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh yes happy to help !!
@kashhnotfound3 жыл бұрын
He is a Drummer, He knows exactly what he is talking about
@galgolombek72232 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. I was listening to this song for a while and was confused about the time signature. This explains everything so well and I felt awesome that I actually understood everything. Thank you!
@marcoandreuccetti27467 ай бұрын
Sincerely the best mode to explain a difficult song My compliment
@AviRafaelMusic4 жыл бұрын
You're a genius ! And 42 is the meaning of life.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
I wondered who would get this hahahaha
@KalebengOfficial4 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay I laughed lol
@terrarium_minded4 жыл бұрын
These videos and you as a person are amazing. Please keep them coming! 🙏
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
3 episodes are already up, next one on Tuesday!
@dyllanusher137911 ай бұрын
I've been listening to this song on repeat for a while now. I'm going to take on the challenge on piano this weekend :) This video gave me an interest in learning it years ago!
@YogevGabay11 ай бұрын
Epic! Good luck man !
@fogoverlatria62573 жыл бұрын
“You’re right. And when you’re right you’re right. And you, you’re always right.” Loving these videos, mate. Cheers.
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
OMG IS THAT A SPACEBALLS QUOTE?!?! You've won my eternal appreciation.
@mariokbee3 жыл бұрын
Man, you did such an epic work in explaining this masterpiece by Tigran.
@edvardlee64724 жыл бұрын
yogev u are an amazing human being!
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
hahahah epic
@sethkg95964 жыл бұрын
Man holy shit so glad you got this YT channel. Always loved your drum covers of Tigran's music. Now to watch your entire backlog. All the best to you.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot ! Happy you like it.
@thrash2groove2 жыл бұрын
This piece is actually easier to grasp than I thought. Cheers as always for these awesome videos!
@cx777o3 жыл бұрын
Such an excellent lesson!! Thanks man :-)
@matthewreavley4 жыл бұрын
Man this was so well explained, and so well produced! Incredible work!
@attuneu4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for helping me listen deeper into the piece. Great video
@FernandoCuadro4 жыл бұрын
i'm so glad that you decided to make youtube videos, i have been following you since the venetian snares (totally amazing) cover, and your arregement for tigran hamasyan beatbox are mindblowing, so hear you explaining things (that you clearly know) is a very much appreciated gift. Thank you.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Oh man thanks ! That Venetian Snares video is still one of my favorites
@gibsongk3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, loved the moment when you play the tiny piano. This is the third video of yours I have watched, and finally figured out what your voice sounds like: Strong Bad from Homestar Runner. Also awesome.
@sivrisayzir4 жыл бұрын
Unbelivable video.. U re so wise musician.Thx so much man
@Nedwin9 ай бұрын
Oh wow man. This is amazing!
@brunomagno27023 жыл бұрын
great videos dude. keep it up!!!!
@lino3293 жыл бұрын
Really great content. Thank you!
@konradpark66374 жыл бұрын
Brother Yogev! You had me subscribing with “I’m a drummer don’t listen to me when it comes to money “ These videos are so good mate. I teach drums so this a great resource for hipping people to Tigran. Thanks heaps! Konrad
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Happy you like it Konrad, and yeah, hipping other people about tigran and all these other bands is part of it all!
Now that you're on a break from these, I can binge watch them all in one go :p. And I'm so happy to dive in, because this kind of presentation is awesome!! The production is amazing and the explanations are easy to understand in this manner. Bravo Yogev!!
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! You should get up to speed I'm gonna be back in a week !
@filipeventura27293 жыл бұрын
What a cool video!!!
@syaired4 жыл бұрын
This is just spectacular!
@EternalEvanesce3 жыл бұрын
Mortals would have never known! Thanks..
@marianotapia48794 жыл бұрын
You deserve more recognition for making this video
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Tigran, Evan and Artur all saw this and liked it, so although I agree, I'm happy with this hahahaa
@nikostsakas77423 жыл бұрын
Hey man, really awesome video. Personally I couldn't really hear the piano part as groups of 3, but maybe I'm biased, because I remember obsessing over that facebook video Tigran uploaded playing this phrase on the piano before the song was out (I tried tapping it on guitar too, which failed). It sounds to me like Tigran is accenting the 4 + 5 + 5 + 7 grouping that the arpeggios enforce and sort of "soaring" above the (comparatively) more regular rhythms of the other instruments. Which seems to be something he likes to do based on his other tunes too - going off on his own and meeting the rhythm section on the one. Thank you for making these anyway, I'm binging through them currently.
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
First of all, thanks man! Second, i don't actually feel it it as groups of three, but mathematically i thought that was the most appropriate way to present it. That's the reason!
@cdrumz3 ай бұрын
I think the most important thing said here was that it depends on how you perceive this. I’ve been listening to Meshuggah since I was a kid and I’m 32, I perceived this whole song as a sort of displaced 4.
@avukadox4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson brother... Keep making us smarter... Thank you for that🦾
@arjunmenon54 жыл бұрын
Amazing !! educational + fun video .loved how you had a cut of the instruments and played on them 😀
@JRich-Music3 жыл бұрын
OMG I needed this
@רועיכץ4 жыл бұрын
איזה כיף שגיליתי אותך ואת הערוץ הזה!
@UkuleleAversion4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@308atalay4 жыл бұрын
great great great channel
@michaeljoefox4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh. 🤯 You’re on another level dude, keep up the insane work. Dancers to a discordant system next?
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh that song! Probably my Meshuggah favorite!
@cornela14 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Great visualisation too, definitely the best video on time fuckery I've seen. Thank you very much, looking forward to the next videos
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Time fuckery! Love that.
@coloripple4 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid! I love tigran, and this video is just what i needed
@stevelangonedrumchannel2724 жыл бұрын
Amazing, great breakdown and lesson, really enjoying your channel, thank you!
@Koropokel4 жыл бұрын
gotta love that bass line!
@RobertWildling4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@wtfgrooves32684 жыл бұрын
Another great one 🌺👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@tinytalesofhappinessbyraje12952 жыл бұрын
Mmm
@avcicelal3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thanks for this lesson. It’s very helpful 🙏🏻
@WeissGuitar4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work! keep it up
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, great content and pretty funny stuff ,and yeah 42 is the meaning of life!
@theopinson38519 ай бұрын
The thing that blows my mind is that they can stay tight with so little frames of reference. AFAIK they don’t use click tracks or anything live as it’s jazz and generally pretty free flowing, but somehow they manage to keep it together.
@rod-drummer72624 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, thanks for sharing !! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Celastrous4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@giampierofranco40464 жыл бұрын
Amazing.you are Always right!
@raphaelpannier73314 жыл бұрын
yes awesome video!!
@groovesalad894 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@JulianFernandez4 жыл бұрын
so helpful. thanks!
@shirginott4 жыл бұрын
גדול! הקשבתי לזה באוטו ולא היה לי מושג מה קורה שם.. הסבר מצויין!
@inigoruizdgordejuela4 жыл бұрын
so nice!!!
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Brother! Thanks a lot!
@theoamorim6504 жыл бұрын
You are an angel
@RaffaeleSansone4 жыл бұрын
The 7 groups of 6 are also highlighted by the piano intro, which kinda makes the song as a whole in 21/8 if you keep counting that way. But as you said it's just too many layers to give it one name. I loved the video!
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Yup, true. And there are additional ways to count this 21, but for the sake of keeping this video under 2 hours, I picked to focus on the outro :)
@skoto82194 жыл бұрын
best friend is israeli and it's always so cool when i can spot the accent lol amazing video man
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
hahaha not to hard with me
@NickyByloo4 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@Daniel_Berry4 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely correct to say that the piano is 7 groups of 3. That’s how I count it, and probably how Tigran himself counts it too. When I first learnt that section I actually felt it in groups of 4, so the accent was shifting by a sixteenth with every repetition of 21, Meshuggah style :)
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
Oh bro for sure. The thing is, it's the same pattern as the intro, where I absolutely hear it as 4,4,4,5. But the drums make it almost impossible to not hear it as 3,3,3,3,3,3,3 at that intro. Damnit it's such a cool song hahaha
@lalainaichane3194 жыл бұрын
Subscribed !
@lambertronix3 жыл бұрын
i related a lot to the 21/16 click track
@joaofofes4 жыл бұрын
Fuckin great Clear and precise explanation!
@udomatthiasdrums53224 жыл бұрын
love it!!
@SteveMcMief3 жыл бұрын
Where can I double like this video?
@omerprimat88644 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how you got to the tricky part at 6:00, like before that it wasn't a brain damage. amazing episode!
@marcoandreuccetti27467 ай бұрын
. . . Also waiting for Vardavar explain 🙏🙏🙏
@achmedliebtachi3 жыл бұрын
Hey man. First of all, wow, thank you for the detailed analyzis of this song. One little suggestion: Next time you show an analyzis with the groupings, show the isolated instrument together with that grouping and also slowed down. I found myself many times throughout the video rewinding, keeping the groupings in my mind, and listening to the isolated instrument with 0.5x speed.
@logen853 жыл бұрын
Wow! This would have taken me a year to crack... And three to play.... Pheeew... Please do something by Marius Neset! The title song from the 2015 album pinball would be really cool.
@ElSonardemiMente4 жыл бұрын
Gracias! ;D
@Tarodenaro3 жыл бұрын
basically: the piano, he groups a 4/3 into a group of 3/4. the H/H, he groups a 3/4 into a group of 4/4 and responds to the K/S the second bar. the bass is a combo of 6/8 and a trio of 5/8 (this is probably the trick to make it work?) the K/S is 6/8 constant and somehow fit the H/H on the second bar. This piece is a really sneaky 4/4 done on a 21/7 bar. very interesting.
@branskylar2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how easy you make this to understand. How long does it typically take you to deconstruct something like this?
@YogevGabay2 жыл бұрын
Yo! So that depends on the song, but what I will say is that it gets easier and easier the more you do it. At this point, I'm very very quick with most songs though every once in a while I find things that I simply can't tackle yet.
@nathans49574 жыл бұрын
awesome vid for mortals like me. in the part you listed as alternating kick/snare the kick is actually on all the beats, 'four on the floor' style. can see this in the playthrough arthur posted on his channel as well.
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
That is true, though i mainly meant the snare, but you're totally right!
@Kreuvait2 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Thanks for your videos ! Could you please consider analyzing Odd Elegy from Dhaffer Youssef with Tigran ?
@YogevGabay2 жыл бұрын
YOu got it ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHrVqZyZh8yckLM
@Kreuvait2 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay Ho Yes ! How could I not see it ! :) Thanks !
@YogevGabay2 жыл бұрын
@@Kreuvait Well, lucky you asked !!!
@pinikhan98504 жыл бұрын
אששש אחי ממש אהבתי הכל!!!!! אשמח לשמוע אותך עושה הסברים בזמנך גם ל Animals as leaders!! Shpongle Consider the source מלך תודה!!!
@djBuBx3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the other parts of the song? Please I want to play in drums but it's hard
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
Well' the main part is in 25/16 which I hear as 5/4 + 5/16. There are a few covers out there that may help as well!
@danielvallejo37943 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I love your videos! I'm writing mi final dissertation in music school as a complete rhythmical analysis of The Call Within and I'm using your "guest vs host" explanation for a lot of it! I've been analysing this track in particular (I saved the most complicated for last) for the past few days and I found all the threads in the image Tigran uploaded to his IG but three. Also, there are this four poems Tigran wrote about different groupings of the 21/16 bar: 5556, 777, 45534 and 44535. I found the first two patterns, but the other two are nowhere to be seen (in the image) or heard (in the tune). I was wondering if you've analysed the tune any further and have some theories about that. Thanks for your time and your amazing videos! =D
@YogevGabay3 жыл бұрын
Oh man that's cooool!
@BizMoose11 ай бұрын
Hey! Stratified Heterophony! : )
@schizophreniagaming40584 ай бұрын
5:13 put some distortion over that and that’s Meshuggah
@just_5183 жыл бұрын
Anyone catch that hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy reference???
@owenbenoy11564 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! How did you manage to separate the instruments to be played solo?
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
General midi, pro tools, and mediocre editing skills!
@owenbenoy11564 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay great, thanks! So did you convert the audio into MIDI, or manually input it?
@YogevGabay4 жыл бұрын
@@owenbenoy1156 Manually yup. Just wrote it in Pro Tools. Which is the worst DAW to write MIDI in, but still.
@owenbenoy11564 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay ok, cheers bro! Love this series btw, keep it up!