Lex Luthor is a GOD?! The Secret DCAU Multiverse Connection (Metron + Gods & Monsters)

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Metron is Lex Luthor? Lex Luthor is Metron?! Yeah, so this fan theory has been around for a while. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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[@NerdHerdReviews]

Never considered this but damn it's a compelling theory. I would love for Gods and Monsters to exist with the DCAU multiverse. So consider me on board with this. Great video as always guys!

[@lordvika2526]

Well idk if you know this but the Elseworlds stories like this one all take place within the DC multi-verse.....remember before the New 52 there was litterly an infinite number of Earth's in their multi-verse.......so yes the Gods and Monsters earth does exist with the DC multi-verse . Hell even the Arrowverse on CW is showing us that everything created by DC is with there multi-verse and is all connected. They are doing this by having characters from all the old live action tv shows and movies making cameos during the Crisis on Infinite Earth's event. Almost every single live action movie or TV show will have a character show up, except the origional Superman from the movies, since the actor is kinda dead lol

[@Frst2nxt]

Jack Kirby was a Jew who had certain Jewish influences on aspects of his ideas. In Merkabbah mysticism, Enoch is called Metatron, shown all the secrets of the universe, and the term Merkabbah means literally chariot in Hebrew, but in Merkabbah literature, refers to a Mobile divine throne.

[@locolopez75]

He was not raise Jew

[@Frst2nxt]

@@locolopez75 He said he and a few others at Marvel were ethnically Jewish, and he had no lack of interest in ideas from Judaism to apply to comics. He remolded Norse mythology to make those gods more like powerful creatures, possibly with the idea of a GOD above all in mind. I didn't say he practiced anything but artwork. No one really practices Merkabbah mysticism today. The details correspondences speak for themselves. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaTIkJd9jsSKas0

[@calvinmann5773]

​@@locolopez75his real name is quite literally Jacob Kurtzberg. He was raised Jewish

[@PeanutStrawberry]

Imagine telling people a Jewish man did not grow up as a Jewish man 🤦‍♂️😂

[@franky.378]

Was? Did he past away?

[@oldmanlogan9616]

Fun Fact: Back then when Jim Starlim was writing Iron Man he wanted to create a villain based on Kirby's New Gods, more specifically Metron. But his editor said " if you are going to create a villain based on The New Gods based him on Darkseid". And thus was born Thanos.

[@amccomics7560]

The first thing I thought when I saw this in my subscription feed: Metron: "I warn you one final time, only a twelfth-level intellect has the slightest hope of surviving what you are about to experience." Lex Luthor: "Then I'm overqualified!"

[@rcbmmines4579]

AMC Comics it’s kind of funny because in comics continuity even the smartest Lex Luthors max at like, 8th or 9th level (higher than that is beyond human limits apparently, even Brainiac was a 10th before upgrades). The arrogance is so Lex Luthor lol.

[@tapp2735]

@@rcbmmines4579 best part is that's probably the first time he had heard of those levels and just immediately said "fuck your measurements I'm that guy"

[@noelleholiday61]

​@@tapp2735bro really said "trust me, I'm Him"

[@deadaccount8054]

I hope there's a sequel episode of "alive!" titled "Dead!"

[@TJ52359]

if your going full 'Yin/Yang' wouldn't it be "Dead?"

[@deadaccount8054]

@@TJ52359 yes.... It is like that.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

The third part of the trilogy would be titled "Or..."

[@squinos3255]

wanderlustwarrior which is a prequel of “dead!”

[@PrestonK_Productions]

I like to think that, within the DC Multiverse, similar universes are clumped closer together, and the further you go from the "prime universe" of one show, the less similar the surrounding universes become. Like in Injustice: Gods Among Us where the two universes in that game are more similar to each other, and are thus closer to eachother within the multiverse, which lead them to collide rather than any other. This is why in many multiverse stories the two universes are often similar despite the vast diversity the DC Multiverse holds; more similar universes being closer together makes them crossing over more likely. Think of them as clusters of similar universes within the multiverse. The further away you go from that universe, the more different it becomes. If Gods and Monsters is in the same universe cluster as the DCAU, it would be a sort of multiversal neighbor, making it more likely for that version of Luthor to end up as that other universe's Metron.

[@ifigureditout999]

Have you seen Crisis on Two Earths?

[@PrestonK_Productions]

@@ifigureditout999 Yeah.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Don t forget the third Injustice timeline But it’s close to my theory that the DCAU, Injustice, etc are other realities in the same fashion as the 52 main universes

[@andyenglish4303]

I tend to think of it as similar to star clusters. There's the core 'Comics Multiverse' of 52 universes, and beyond that there's stuff like the CW multiverse, the Cinematic Multiverse, the animated Multiverse, the Video Game multiverse.

[@PrestonK_Productions]

@@andyenglish4303 Precisely what I had thought, but twice as well worded!

[@ifigureditout999]

I think you may have cracked the actual orgin of Metron, he may really be a Luther

[@wanderlustwarrior]

Luth-OR.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Or Luth

[@spectraphantom9374]

But he’s a new god and they’re millions of years old

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Metron is not He’s something separate and older then the New God

[@ifigureditout999]

@@ItsButterBean1020 How can you be sure he doesn't use his infinite wisdom to go back to ancient times

[@ItsButterBean1020]

So you’re telling me Lex Luthor warned Lex Luthor about Lex Luthor threatening the universe because Lex Luthor didn’t want that? My brain hurts.....

[@ryanbauer3680]

In the immortal words of a depressed reality hoping genius drunkard; "Brain hurty....I want cookies!...and a 90-minute cut of Avatar."

[@Elvisbackpack]

I'll be honest, that the last two JLU episodes are named after KISS albums is something I never knew and highly intrigues me.

[@andrewquick4176]

Gods And Monsters is one of the greatest superheroes EVER

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Lowkey want that movie to cross over with the DCAU at some point Especially if it’s a JL reunion

[@Yungtacosss]

This is an amazing theory! it kind of reminds me of how in the Kingdom Come comic Orion has aged over the years and just looks like Darkseid with hair basically.

[@KalHadden]

Now I can't unsee Johnny Gat sitting in the Mobius chair telling Luthor to go take his shiny bald head somewhere else before he shoots him in ways he can't comprehend.

[@Deception975]

Johnny: I'm gonna shoot the Devil in the face. Kinzie: I think you may be skipping some details. Johnny: No, I said in the face.

[@Kill3rrockstar]

I high key love gods and monsters because its straight up different people who become the people we know opposed to how elseworlds usually work where its another universe version of the same people

[@vonfaustien3957]

I wonder what diana and bruce are doing in gods and monsters clark never got born because of zods meddling but both bruce Wayne and Diana should exist in some form even if not as batman and wonder woman.

[@HunterX05]

*IT'S LEX FLIPPIN' LUTHOR!*

[@tentaclecorner9841]

not only is this an amazing idea, i would love for Timm and co. to confirm this in a new project of some kind.

[@nobody7279]

It's a shame we never got to see such a sequel

[@LowellLucasJr.]

I think a Metron Lex isn't outside the realm of possibly! In fact, I find it very compelling! Thank you for making thia video and for putting me on your list! It was an awesome watch! Also..any word on the Ivy video? I'm missing her soooo much!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thank YOU! Ivy video is going to be part of our storyline, and I believe it’s 3-4 “chapters” from now. We wanted to do it right and involve it in our “lore,” so stay tuned, and thanks for your patience and support!

[@LowellLucasJr.]

@@dcauwatchtower no problem! Please take your time! You all do awesome work! Also you guys convinced me to buy the entire Justice league collection on DVD( I only had Batman, BB, and complete JL unlimited )since your covering so much material

[@jeremiahmorris1852]

Gods and Monsters has been part of the DCAU multiverse in my headcanon since I first saw it

[@angellicus1779]

The New Gods we see are only lesser images of their true forms. Their true forms can supposedly crush a multiverse with ease.

[@mudpie6927]

Yep like shadows

[@mariasottiriou1393]

Wonder Woman Blood lines Blu Ray trailer played before the video started

[@dannybuckle3763]

I feel like Lex & Metron would get along if Lex could just let go of his rampent xenophobia.

[@rcbmmines4579]

He’s not really xenophobic. He hates Superman because he’s jealous of his power and the attention/praise people give him. Pre-Crisis he used to have an alien wife and family.

[@Grandflea02]

Metron is one of my favourite DC characters, along with Lex Luthor. I cant believe I never thought of why I liked both of them so much. This blew my mind.

[@bradenhogan2]

This feels very much like fan theory territory, but I dig it. Fan theories are so fun when they actually make as much sense as the “truth.” This one is pretty rad when thinking about Metron in Destroyer

[@disneychec]

Thank you guys for helping me get through my work hours. Listening to you guys is awesome.

[@dennybecton]

I’ve been waiting for this for a while since I first watched Gods and Monsters last year. Good video databois!!!

[@fishwrld]

0:51 "coincidence! I think not!"- the guy who said that from The Incredibles ps fabulous episode as usual

[@christianvigil487]

I hope Bruce Timm gets another chance at the God & Monsters Universe, maybe greenlighting a movie/series on the DC Universe streaming service might work?

[@dtfilmmaker]

I really want to see a sequel to Gods and Monsters introducing other League members of that universe as well as rogues

[@thestenjinbrownshow]

God I love Gods and Monsters! This is a really compelling theory.

[@maxysona]

this was good episode thank you

[@lifemattersnot]

Dude dont tell us put this in legacies of the dcau use it

[@dcauwatchtower]

😏

[@zakronthesheep]

I always thought that Metron was some future version of Lex trying to warn himself

[@mrheroprimes]

Well we know the dark Multiverse branches off from the prime Earth of the DC Universe with it earth numbered -1 there -52. Maybe the DC Animated Universe and the diffrent dc cartoon continuities could be considered another Branch off point from the prime earth of the DCU.

[@blitzhunter128]

So wait...Lex didn’t die in the JLU finale? He was only sent to the source wall?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Yep! He and Darkseid eventually escaped, though. This is all via the late, great Dwayne McDuffie.

[@tornadosoupcomics]

That makes a lot of sense. Actually, it got me thinking. The Marvel Universe was created when the previous universe collapsed, which is why there was a big bang. Galactus is the last surviving creature from that universe. And yeah, it's Marvel, so it doesn't have a lot of hold with DC, but... what if Lex is destined to be the Galactus of each DC Universe? When the Gods and Monsters Universe died, Lex found a way to escape, making his way to the next universe, which would be the DCAU. Then when it's time for the DCAU to die (it makes me sad to type that) that Lex, who is still trapped in the Source Wall, will escape and survive into the new universe, which could very well be the Young Justice universe, making that Metron the DCAU Lex. It's out there, but just maybe...

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I mean Marvel and DC have acknowledged each other before...

[@LucLightWolf121]

It also tracks since it explains Master Order being either the previous Universe version of Professor X or his future self, with Lord Chaos being a distant past/distant future version of The Shadow King.

[@VaneWalker]

I'm really disappointed they cancelled the gods and monsters sequel. That alternative interpretation of the dcau heroes and villains was for me, the most interesting product to come out of DC's animated features. There was so much left to discover in that universe, but it seems like I never will and it's all your fault. Yes you specifically, reading this right now. Thanks for nothing.

[@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy]

lol, um... k.. whatever. . . . . And Your welcome! ^-^ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Na11441]

The reason why the New Gods are different across the multiverse is because they are avatars of the actual New Gods (who exist outside the Multiverse) scattered throughout the multiverse; not different versions like say Kingdom Come Superman and Prime Earth Superman. This was established in Multiversity.

[@RM-cn8pw]

So what does that mean for their planets, New Genesis and Apokolips? Are they also avatars of those actual planets?

[@BriManeely]

FIRST!! Oh wait.. no.. no that's not right.

[@charleshardesty1828]

I love theory videos in general, but I REALLY like this theory! It would be cool if there was only 1 Metron across all of DC existence & it is G&M Lex! I am not deep enough into comics to know, but I think he may be an obscure enough character that even if that wasnt the original intent, it could be written in with relatively no plot holes. With time travel each appearance could be 1000s of years apart for him & be in a completely different order, which could then explain relatively different power sets & appearances.

[@ManuDGraf]

Awesome video guys! . . . . I NEED THAT EARTH 12 VIDEO

[@retired_orange]

Can we please all agree to call him "MetropLex"??

[@dcauwatchtower]

Where’s the P come from 🤔 (You say genitals and we riot)

[@zyaicob]

@@dcauwatchtower s t o r e d i n t h e b a l l s

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

I won't believe this theory until The Question confirms it himself... I still want to know why aglets(?) are so sinister. 🤔

[@AAllen-br8it]

Never take a New God or Apokolyptian death at face value. Darkseid imprints himself on universes that he goes to, kind of like a God and Jesus thing, that's why there are different "versions" but they're all coming from the same source. So even if you kill Darkseid, there is still a Darkseid. Because Darkseid is forever. Ω

[@amylutece8533]

IDK IF THIS HELPS, but most hardcore comic fans from DC have chosen to accept that apokolips/new genesis/the new gods do in facr exist outside of the multiversse, but that they have an avatar (including a celestial avatar for the planets they live on) in each of the universes to allow them to interact with the universe and exist inside of it.

[@AirCanMaster]

Funny you use that title card picture of half and half because I was just watching Fatal Five for the first time in a while and I was thinking that the first fatal Three looked like future concept versions of Deathstroke, Atomic Skull, and Lex Luthor.

[@rainbowpanda7723]

Metrones actor was also a main character in hawaii five o

[@TevyaSmolka]

i never consider theory but my god the more i think about its a really great theory.

[@Tanglw]

The sequel to Gods and Monsters could be released as a comic... or a web comic... or a leaked online script...

[@thatnamelessguy4011]

Oh boy I’m so excited for this video

[@NerdHerdReviews]

Also got my name in twice! Woooo

[@jazzmyn5804]

1:25 I thought you were going to say, "Metron shows up much like he does in JLU...in a chair" lol

[@yellowmartian]

I did it, I checked out your Metron/Lex Luthor video. Great stuff!

[@rorylumley4727]

I imagine the mobious chair is very comfy. I mean it must be metron sits in it all the time.

[@dcauwatchtower]

Memory foam for sure

[@jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787]

Thank you Black Friday sale last year that allowed me to score a ton of The Who’s who’s issues for 50 cent each . Handy little books.

[@markmagician2471]

Finally we get this one! It's been months!

[@jimkass7641]

The first time I saw that movie i had the same idea thank you for making this video

[@kimeraclan3135]

Young Justice Metron can't be Lex Luthor because he's actually Hermes Conrad! Sweet ham of Gotham, I'm a New God, mon!

[@tumpstanker6748]

Yooooooo, my first video watch from this channel and I love it cause of the How I Met Your Mother wink

[@dcauwatchtower]

Then you’ll love the last 5 minutes of this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inqvap2gpbaqn5o

[@tylersaez4095]

My understanding is that the New Genesis and Apokolips on the Multiverse map is where the prime versions of the New Gods reside. All the different versions of the New Gods we see are those prime versions splintering their consciousness across reality. Same goes for the various pantheons of gods we see.

[@hellishlantern]

The source wall has actually been broken as of recently in the comics. Thats where we got the new forces other than just the speedforce

[@dcauwatchtower]

Yep! That’s why I put “impenetrable” in quotations on screen, haha. We have seen some of what’s back there, but I’m sure we’ll see much, much more in the years to come.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

11:08 it doesn't include sources because he hasn't been past the Source Wall.

[@DanteYewToob]

I’d believe it.. Lex decides to jump universes, finds time travel, finds a way to suspend his biology… etc. not that far fetched, especially with how well they fit and how similar they are.

[@superitgel1]

Agreed. I think he's specifically Lex from Mexican Superman universe.

[@KendrickHarrisKenfinity]

I can see how their similar features and fact than Metron is from another time can make them the same man. After you brought it up! Keep it up!

[@oldmanmichaelj]

This is a cool theory and think it could be a possibility that Metron is a version of Lex. In the comics and maybe in one of the shows/claims Lex claims he's the smartest man in the universe (or top 3 smartest). Also there's an infinite universes so there is at least one version of Lex that he is Metron.

[@batfankjb3211]

That is now part of my head canon

[@NevermoreNeverAgain]

Gods of DC Universe exist outside the Multiverse. Apokolips, New Genesis, the Olympians or Metron... it doesn't matter. There is only one Darkseid and Metron and Orion, but they look different, sound different in every universe because they're just avatars, puppets of the true gods that we can't even comprehend. Darkseid once fell on the multiverse... that's how unimaginable they are. So no... Metron isn't Lex. No chance for that. And remember... Darkseid is.

[@coltranepagan7639]

When I finished watching gods and Monsters I thought of Metron but I didn’t think anything of it. Then when I saw the thumbnail of this video I knew exactly what you were going to talk about.

[@williamebf444]

4:12 It looks like you can just fly over the source wall tho

[@twistedwell9568]

Really cool... I'm on board! Is it canon? SURE!!!

[@jagnestormskull3178]

Metron likes defeating his enemies before they know that the game has begun. That shot of him giving fire to Anthro wasn't actually about the fire, but the two messages he burnt on the cave wall - one was a primitive drawing of the Miracle Machine, and the other was the New Genesian glyph for freedom, a vaccine against the Anti-Life Equation. As space and time start collapsing, Kamandi the Last Boy tells Anthro the First Boy that those symbols are important, and Anthro travels to the 21st century, the area around which time is collapsing, to yell at the humans of that time that Metron gave them a weapon against the gods, thus giving the Anti-Life Vaccine (or at least the knowledge of its existence) to the scattered human resistance. Other time travel related gambits that Metron has been known to pull include JLA: _Rock of Ages,_ where Metron pulled several Justice Leaguers away from their current conflict into a possible future ruled by Darkseid, then manipulated the heroes so that they would stop Darkseid before he took over, and SPOILERS APPROACHING FOR _Young Justice_ SEASON FOUR, SPOILERS APPROACHING, where he "conducts an experiment" that ends in the main antagonist of the season being killed by the very Kryptonite that the antagonist attached to a bomb to kill Superboy/Conner Kent.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

You know, I was thinking the Kiss thing when you said "Alive!", so I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that.

[@srstriker6420]

Holy CW Savitar what twist

[@NerdHerdReviews]

This was clearly more thought out than Barry being Savitar

[@srstriker6420]

Nerdy Casual really?

[@NerdHerdReviews]

I'm joking. I just really dislike that third season of Flash haha

[@srstriker6420]

Nerdy Casual who do you think it should have been? Eddie Thawne

[@NerdHerdReviews]

Literally anything else would have been better but it was so painstakingly obviously Barry that it really brought the whole show down for me. I'm back on board with the series now though. I like 5 more than more and I'm obsessed with 6

[@Robotato]

Not gonna lie I thought u said "Databaes" in the intro. Databaes!! I like it.

[@dcauwatchtower]

I did!

[@RedVelvetUnderground333]

Jack Kirby is the king In the movie it was basically him turning into metron

[@seanewing204]

It's definitely true that G&M Luthor is _A_ Metron. As for DCAU Metron? Why not, lets it canon.

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Metron is a God. He can manifest himself into anyone that he wants. Or "Lextron" might be another *aspect* of Metron.

[@michaelcorbalis9860]

I think this isn’t just interesting, but genuinely makes the ending of JLU better. Metron feels like such a deus ex machina if you aren’t familiar with the comics

[@dcauwatchtower]

Check out our recent Lex/Brainiac video, too--I've got another Metron theory in there!

[@Coolsomeone234]

Can we have that Green lantern: TAS will it canon?

[@dcauwatchtower]

It’s on our [very long] to-do list! The “Will it Canon?” show is wrapped up in our WDb storyline right now, so we have specific WIC episodes to get through first. But we’ll definitely be getting to that one!

[@VarakClawbinder]

I honestly thought that they were making him Metron in gods in monsters. I didn't realize there wasn't any confirmation... it just seemed that's what they intended. As for there being one Metron and it is G&M Luthor, bit more of a stretch, but I like that he might be DCAU Metron, that doesn't seem to much a stretch.

[@crisrobles3425]

Interesting, Metatron is the Archangel of Kether (the first emanation/sephira) of the Qabalistic Tree of Life. Very fitting lore for a comic god named Metron.

[@crisrobles3425]

All the Archetypes are truly within us 👁️

[@BenReillySpydr1962]

I always thought Braniac was the future version of Lex Luthor mainly do to motivations and color schemes. 🤷

[@anothergingeronthetheinternet]

Ik this is a 4 year old video but they really didn’t think to use another Professor x joke like Professor LeX

[@waywardwatcher2053]

But the whole point of gods and monsters was different characters becoming heroes we know. If a new god can be an alternative Wonder Woman than than a human can become an alternative Metron

[@suanfitrioneljack27]

Jack Kirby, Kiss, The DCAU, The New Gods. One can say that I was made for loving this video and this video were made for loving me!

[@dcauwatchtower]

You may love the channel...the Subscribe button calls...

[@redjirachi1]

I wonder if Jack Kirby ever had an origin in mind for Metron but never told anyone about it

[@sougotokiwa8439]

And here I thought Lex Luthor was Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson...🤣 Lol

[@connorschultz380]

Unfortunately the mobious chair was later confirmed to be made by dr. Manhatten

[@Highline_29_Designs]

I don't care if this is Metron's true origin or not, cause it is to me now either way.

[@petefischer3820]

Thank you! Great theoty.

[@justinclark397]

Justice League Gods and Monsters is something that needs a sequel or something else to build upon that world.

[@DababyIceEater]

I have a theory, I think that metron is the presence or linked to him somehow because he's billions of years old not linked to new genisis nor is he to apokolips and I think maybe he's the presence disguised or a being created by the presence for a reason we yet to understand.

[@reversepickle5923]

pls do a will it canon with The Batman and Teen Titans i know its not DCAU but u guys are better experts at this than me

[@dcauwatchtower]

Maybe someday! It would require watching the entirety of “The Batman” and reading all its tie-in comics. Not top priority right now. It’s on the [very long] list though!

[@reversepickle5923]

@@dcauwatchtower just knowing its a possibilty already makes me happy

[@angrycat3761]

Me and my brother always thought Metron was the same guy who warped the timeline with his time belt. The one where batman me batman beyond

[@MMAHypeWatch]

10:03 red head wonderwoman and 10:36 red head on the chair............Whaaaaa?

[@mudpie6927]

This is now my new head cannon

[@TheLonelySoulja]

I’m rewatching SMTS and my New Gods that show is way better than I remember it as a kid/ mainly when it comes 2 the apocalypse.... Now! Episodes

[@philipjay2099]

Tis part o my head cannon LOL.

[@bigmock141]

Does the mobius chair come with toilet and massager?

[@TACKO3D]

when I was a kid, I thought Metron was the time traveling guy from that Batman Beyond crossover. Casue their suits looked similar enough when I was a kid

[@dcauwatchtower]

Ohhh I can see that

[@xavigolden8287]

that's a wicked cool theory right there