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[@LexClips]

Full conversation with Jordan Peterson and Lex Fridman: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYqbknmJjpetrJY

[@waltershumer4211]

Would love to hear a interview with Alexander Dugan on the subject of traditionalism, the antithesis to the post 1945 liberal world order which has been dominant up until this point and is showing signs of collapse....... Benjamin titlebaum a left wing sociologist has written a book about the subject called war for eternity who would also be a very good guest on the subject. thank you very much.

[@lightfoot.2000]

inspiring 😑🙏

[@amc3463]

Peterson is a 🤡 in a suit and doesn't understand the situation

[@waltershumer4211]

@@amc3463 ..... What doesn't he understand?

[@waltershumer4211]

@@FredSully .... I am pro russian, but when it comes to Azov battalion, you should understand this is a very small group of people, and does not represent Ukraine as a whole as is evidenced by their Jewish president...... That said there was a genocide in Ukraine called the holodomor in which Russia starved and killed millions upon millions of ukrainians, as a consequence the Germans of this time period were seen as liberators and saviors, (and indeed they were) so there is a statue of a national socialist in Ukraine which a very small group of people still honor with flowers every year, not to celebrate national socialism, but to show gratitude. One thing I've learned about history is that there's no such thing as a good guy and a bad guy, it's always black and white....... People are disappointing that way, boath individually and collectively. I'm afraid it is only the ignorant and foolish who have the satisfaction of a motion picture like clear distinction in between good and bad when it comes to these things.

[@juliaelrod2154]

😊 My dad, a Canadian, passed away a couple years ago. I didn't know how much I missed hearing "bloody this and bloody that" until I heard Jordan say it.💞

[@paulheydarian1281]

Why didn't these same concerns and questions come up when discussing Afghanistan and Iraq? Or Libya? Or Syria? Or Yemen? Or so many other nations. Why?

[@brandoncorley5922]

They did it's just no one "credible" was listening

[@anthonysillas4017]

Not one to post or ever reply but why should he???? Haven’t really watched this dude ngl just started and you right from the last 2 weeks of watching short clips he does bring this topic up a lot. Not a lex type human but even I clearly can tell he has a personal reason and connection that is troubling him, you can tell he is trynna to work out how he feels. I assume he’s Russian or maybe from the region???? Not sure why he has to use his spotlight to talk about the rest tho……just cause you care doesn’t mean he has too, you know. You didn’t ask me personally but just some thoughts.

[@caglayandursunoglu6731]

Or maybe they don’t matter much? Maybe people don’t give a shit about those places since the war there is continuing since the beginning of time {exaggerating to make a point if you are sensitive} {just brainstorming}

[@Diewux]

Why you are buying smartphone instead of sending money for starving people? It’s same kinda logic. You cant expect same attention on everything. This war happens literally in europe and it affected it most, so western world is audible about it. Whether you like it or not.

[@rossoriordan2]

They did come up.

[@kogaigo1]

Saying Putin is worse than Stalin is great exaggeration if anything

[@tedmusson5179]

Stalin was two things. The most propaganda lied about human on earth, and the greatest statesman of the twentieth. Similarly but in the opposite direction churchill was one of the greatest racists of the 20th. Let me remind that Britain sat thumb massaging sphincter while nazi was made strong destroying legally elected Spain.

[@tedmusson5179]

Let me add that the racist coalition of France, UK, U$a, et al. created hitler and nazi with hideous bankster WWI.

[@tedmusson5179]

Saying Putin is almost as great as Stalin is a blatant truth. The initials tell the west's story in a vulgar sort of way... U$UK I AM HOUTHIS

[@misterwhipple2870]

Maybe so, but I think that what they mean is that Putin WANTS to be worse than Stalin, but he just hasn't managed it yet.

[@Dudush90]

@@misterwhipple2870 dont u think Putin see whats going on now and still he is protecting Russia ? what west is doing towards Russia is really BS, imagine this on other side, they would never accept this, and Putin tolerate it all this years...even war in Georgia happened because of west interest...Im just gamer but still this is going this way, NATO surrounding Russia, lets take all countries around u, now left really few, and then we just went in from nearly all sides and u have no chance to respond, and I feel for Russia this is happening...I understand Putin and he tolerate west so much and for me he gets trapped by west...and I know also how US propaganda works, what US do its all OK, they have under control nato/EU they gonna be silent, US can do whatever they want, and they even did...Syria,Lybia,Jemen...other countries there, and anyone cared that US destroyed that country and took their resources ? but now I see, Russia stand up, said enough and people dont see it, evil is still Russia...

[@IrLosin]

Jordan is so right about politicians isolating themselves. It's so much easier to dehumanise your opponents when you don't have normal human contact with them.

[@mikegreen3517]

well said

[@olivergoodness7694]

Beautiful

[@mischa_solt]

You speaking about Putin? About normal contact with Putin?

[@joebenson528]

@@mischa_solt Yes the guy standing up for the independent people of the DPR and LPR against the NATO installed apartheid regime.

[@tymurmylosvietov4120]

@@joebenson528 you must be russian or really blind. It is clearly an imperialistic war by russia against Ukraine.

[@silviuvelovici8307]

As a Romanian living in the US for the last 30 years I totally agree with Mr. Peterson that the West has lost its mind.

[@abc-eq9so]

I was in Romania couple of days ago. I'm Serbian. Romania is ages ahead today. I remember back in Yugoslavian days Romania was like third world country. How things have changed...

[@user-ez8le1rp3x]

Romania have fallen into the bottomless pit of western corruption. You have no right to talk on behalf of your country until you return back to your country and set things right, traitor.

[@user-ez8le1rp3x]

@@abc-eq9so Romania today is far way worse than a third world country. Today it is a capitol of child prostitution and human trafficking in Europe.

[@totozviara]

You and Jordan can always move to Russia

[@1stsampan]

@@totozviara Some do. And you can move to Cuba.

[@Unknown-yu3ms]

Conversation is everything! Thank you both for letting us in on this conversation. Stay happy, stay healthy. 🍻

[@juniperman]

Conversation is talk … talk is cheep

[@lucienwmoon]

One thing, out of many, that I admire about Lex is his ability to communicate. I often find people, sometimes including myself, rushing to get words out of their mouths. When Lex speaks, he does so very deliberately and is able to articulate a sentence so well because of it.

[@woofwoof9647]

@@GStones58 He is very shy an has annxiety problems he spoke about it in a video awhile back !! He thinks before he speaks bro !!

[@woofwoof9647]

@@GStones58 All Good mate was just stating fact cos i watched that video , No dis - respect intended towards You My Friend Blessingsfrom New Zealand . May All Your Dreams and Wishes Come True !!

[@woofwoof9647]

@@GStones58 Mate You are most Welcome in New Zealand Anytime . And Yes The Thylacine Most Certainly is alive an Well on Mainland Australia all over and Tasmainia unfortunatly Not in New Zealand i have been Following Neil Waters with Thylacine Awareness Group of Australia and Tasmania inc fascinating for me also Yowie Australian Sabe ( Sasquatch ) basicly thousands of sightings an encounters . We also have Moehau Man our Sabe ( Sasquatch ) havnt had an encounter Yeti but are seriously looking forward to one . I live beside Mt Egmont and 34500 hectares of National Park but sadly Nothing in here No food Damn 1080 poison !! Also sittings of a large lion like cat has had many sightings also endemic to Australia Awesome stuff ill look up the name for ya m8 .

[@woofwoof9647]

@@GStones58 Haha gezz thats funny yeah ol Steve i picked up on him just before he got into the Sabe side as fascinated as i am about Sabe i loved his hunting stories im a hunter myself 14 deer 6 fallow 6 Sika an 2 Reds so far an many pigs with dogs an Rifle when younger 60 now just got a Beautiful Browning X Bolt Sythetic Stainless 300 Win Mag with a Bushnell 4-12 x44 scope Awesome !! Thyacoleo is the name of that Cat in Australia many sightings of these too !! Mate i would love Come to the Lone Star State Dont Mess with Texas !!! Hog Hunting Big Uns !!

[@woofwoof9647]

@@GStones58 Cool ol Shotgun Ok ill explain to you my take on what Steve is doing ( by the way thats funny youve been blocked ) Rito he was reading Hunting stories with pretty much all his own experiences i believe him about his own encounters as you would have heard about them and his Grandfathers encounter which i actually find weird that he didnt hear that till Steve was 26 years old anyway he began getting Sabe stories more mixed in with Hunting encounters an because he had sympathy for these people the riddicule an hassle they had if saying or telling anyone so many people have been silent for years and i reckon Steve gave them an opening or opportunity to share their encounter beeing good or bad and because BFRO are so much Bullshit and not listening or turning away real encounters an not taking people seriously that has pissed Steve off immensly and he himself wants answers from gubermint for himself and all these different people and David Paulides and Scott Carpenter 411 the missing ones everyone wants answers i actually dont watch Steve as much now i want the old music back i dont like that drone an music bring back hunting one an him at the end with his arms out wheres the Tee Shirt of him doing that ??? Asked him to please do Tee Shirt but nah !! So now he has a hugh following an im not that much into fishing either and hes hard out trying to get answers and also its not just him now with Sarah and kids not same anymore !! i havnt had an encounters or seen anything here in New Zealand but i was.6 years old when Patterson / Gimmlin film Patty came out i believed it then it hasnt been debunked anyway who would of thought to have falsefied Sabe with a Female Sabe in those days an yes ive seen Franks suit that was guna be faked it was light brown Patty was Black an Boobies !! The sightings of Yowie in Australia are in the thousands same as Canada America Vietnam skunk apes Florida Skunk apes Hymalayas Yeti Moehau Man New Zealand Scotland England Wales Russia chyna sightings are becoming more numouruos worldwide hehe then well shall we Dogman Wendigos Rakes Werewolves haha we could go on its 8.37 pm now ok ill leave it at that mate . Message anytime Bro .

[@ufgator18]

The hospitality aspect is fascinating. I've never thought of it that way, but providing grand hospitality to your guests even if they are strangers is actually a bonding experience.

[@steelcom5976]

You actually needed someone to tell you that?

[@sc100ott]

And if we saw a Western leader treat Putin, Xi, Kim, King Salman(Saudi), Rouhanni (Iran), or any potentially adversarial leader with a modicum of hospitality, the opposition party within our own Western country would spin it as an outrage. This is a big reason why we can’t solve many of our problems.

[@steelcom5976]

@@sc100ott You have to be f*c*ing kidding

[@TheReferrer72]

@@sc100ott Do you think European leaders did not treat any of these leaders with hospitality? I feel sorry for this world, where liberals think they have to pander to everyone.

[@abditus5842]

Ronald Reagan would have Tip O’Neil over for drinks and jokes once a week while he was President and Tip led the opposition. Jack Welch, legendary CEO of GE had the Union leaders and their families over for barbecues. Hospitality breaks down barriers and allows us to see the “ opposition” as people.

[@briancrumpacker]

There are so many things to be learned from the ONE CLIP that can not only be applied directly to this subject matter, but can be used to extrapolate on many different aspects of our lives. I thank the both of you for continuing to show us how to use our minds in a correct fashion, to effectively communicate and complete our thoughts.

[@chriskindler10]

so what exactly did you learn from this clip?

[@Thawhid]

@@chriskindler10is this an insulting comment or? This was a good clip for sure

[@cmath6454]

Jordan Peterson is the king of pushing stories on everything and everyone. Thinking he's contextualizing reality when human beings form judgements based on themselves. In essence he just describes himself and pushes it on others.

[@agriskaminskis9352]

Fabricated fantasy of Russia by Peterson. I know quite a lot about Russia and this is outright manipulation by Peterson. Or he is an idiot. One cannot miss so badly. He thinks he's so smart that he takes partial info about a thing and paints the picture of the whole without proper due diligance. A smartass idiot.

[@IntricateIntrovert]

@@cmath6454 So you lack the mental capacity to comprehend his words? Got it

[@jessemohring3484]

Watching and listening to conversations like these makes it more difficult to have a conversation with a friend with out having debate turn into argument. Discussion is becoming a rare form these days.

[@GoodFellerTreeCare]

Very true

[@johnmatonne7834]

I agree, I can't talk to democrats any longer. I wonder why anyone would vote for a democrat and their woke-ism

[@cognitivefuse5913]

An argument is a debate.

[@ivandafoe5451]

These two clowns are in agreement on this issue...so a discussion is possible. If you are in agreement with them and expect your friends to agree with you in the same way, then you will have to confine your hoped-for conversations to friends who are as delusional as you are.

[@screamingatthesky1878]

@@ivandafoe5451 Calling some of the most intelligent and non biased minds on the internet 'clowns' is the most clown shit I've ever read, fat L

[@darvinist87]

As a Russian I cannot agree with prof. Peterson entirely, but I must give him credit, he does much better job understanding Russia than so many others.

[@nocturne000]

Hey I'm curious, what would you say he got right, and got wrong? I'd like to understand the Russian perspective better, if you would be so kind.

[@user-vr5js6nd3w]

@@nocturne000 Where he's right: Mismanagement of Western policy has led to the conflict. We see it as vile will rather. Where he's not quite right: - Russia does not have expansionist goals. We are biggest on Earth, we don't need territories, name any natural resource, we have a lot of it. Russia would not leave what it took for the first month of SMO if it wanted to conquer Ukraine. Russian terms for Istanbul negotiations April 2022 did not contain any territorial claims. - Putin is sincere, Russia is sincere and we don't understand why what we say is hard to understand. - Dugin is not important in Russian modern philosophy whatsoever, he's seen as a freak. Russians are normal, we don't like extremes. - Hate towards Russians in Ukraine has its limits, there is significant part of Ukrainians who support our goals. Majority of such has left the country not willing to fight for Ukraine. - Putin is not in human bubble, he just lost last remnants of trust to the current Western elites. He does not see to whom he could talk in the West who would not break all agreements like times and times and times before. His position is 'you lied to our face quite enough and we're done with you. We don't want anything to do with you anymore'.

[@nocturne000]

@@user-vr5js6nd3w First of all, I really appreciate you taking the time to educate me on an important perspective I don't get to hear that often. I especially think Putin being fed up with western shenanigans and dishonest statecraft makes the most sense. A lot of people don't understand the full extent to which western Europe and the USA has been trying to coopt Ukraine, using deception and other nefarious means. I'm not saying they were the only ones doing it, but people need to realize this conflict can't be boiled down into such a simplistic reason. There's way more nuance. Anyway thanks again for the perspective. It made me think about things I hadn't before which is valuable.

[@LoveBagpipes]

​@@user-vr5js6nd3wvery well said! 🇦🇺 As an Australian, I agree with what you said...and Putin's messaging has been consistent and easy to understand

[@nocturne000]

@@user-vr5js6nd3w I swear I replied to this, but it seems like is disappeared… in any case all I wanted to say was how much I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. It’s incredibly important for this perspective to be heard. The idea that there’s just this “hatred” towards Ukraine has never made much since to me. Like you said, it only goes so far. Trust and a sense of security on the other hand are something I think we can all understand. That’s the great thing about talking to people from, or traveling to other countries. You’ll notice no matter where you go, you’ll find other people. And other people are easier to relate to than what the media wants to portray, or not portray. That second point as well is significant. Putin did exactly what he said he would. I’m tact, he’s done what he said he would many times and yet for some reason it’s portrayed like it’s random. Again, I very much appreciate your detailed comment. I find it funny (as an American) that my country thinks they have any leg to stand on when it comes to military actions taken, or statecraft. Take care, friend.

[@Go-ah-oold]

It is so refreshing to hear him speak about this issue, this perspective is different enough from the standard analysis to make it proportionately interesting. So lovely!

[@julienwoodstock5546]

Finally a podcast with jorden Peterson I’ve been waiting for this for tooo long

[@MrTweaksTV]

you obviously mean jordache petersen

[@adriantodea3005]

Lex has always impressed me with his genuine posture.

[@johnmatonne7834]

Yes, he sits up straight

[@senior_java]

Kremlin agent. Lex is an agent

[@TheKidsInTheRoom]

haha not easy I agree.

[@pawemostek3587]

Lex still thinks Russia is a great country and Russians are great people - the truth is opposite most of Russians think like Putin. Russians created Putin and Putin is able to attack and murder other nations because russians allow it and support it. Lex STOP promoting Russia !!!

[@gg6886]

He is Batman

[@hudhinton1880]

No one has a higher opinion of Jordan Peterson than Jordan Peterson.

[@lineinthesand663]

I think they are being overgenerous in their descriptions of US Congressmen.

[@michaelwhardy1908]

I think most of the conservative congressmen are genuinely there to help the country but the ones on the left will have a set of ideas 1 year and then say they believe the opposite next year just to get elected but conservative view points hedge remained the same for a very long time

[@ujmm]

You wouldn't think Peterson is talking about congressmen from a country where the majority interest has much less effect on policy change compared to special interests. The main reason why the u.s is not placed in the top 10. on the democracy index. Corruption is a massive problem that somehow gets disguised because people are allowed to press one of two buttons every fourth year.

[@cryptodavidw]

Right xD are we ignoring the corruption?

[@ElectricAIDS]

I like this comment because it is theatrical as Jordan said but it could be true it is a broad statement.

[@finerbiner]

Conservative, Liberal, Leftist, Rethuglican etc... If you need to use these terms to make your point you should stop. Go back, try to get a better grip on your view and bring it to the world without loading it with BS before you start.

[@hardcoresb3]

I dislike labels. We as a human species have bigger fish to fry.

[@vtheman1850]

This one was awesome, great job from the both of you, especially Lex who is very critical of Russia's invasion. A really good conversation.

[@that_heretic]

Lex doesn't bother doing his homework and lets Peterson completely redefine the conversation. Bad interview Lex, do better. Not because it's popular, because it's right.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

It's a talk about the war in Ukraine without actually talking about the war in Ukraine

[@devinsayswecanflyingram6321]

did you want Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist, to give a war analysis of the situation and circumstances on the ground?

[@TgfkaTrichter]

@@devinsayswecanflyingram6321 considering that he constantly comments on stuff that he has no idea about and does not understand... then why not?

[@DiviousVicious]

It's about causes, which matters.

[@tkkunaka2630]

They spoke about the causes so yeah

[@Cockmonging]

@@TgfkaTrichter it's fine since it seems to work for you eh?

[@RockLee679]

Lex is a pro at listening. Never interrupts

[@Wishlake]

Peterson suggesting that Western governments not being 'hospital' in communicating with Russia, justyfing invasion on a sovern country is just something I never thought I'm gonna hear from him.

[@jackstone4825]

You must be used to hearing it from your leaders ever since WW2. They just brainwashed you with a quasi moralistic pretense of ‘going in to protect the local population from a terrible dictator’… This is the biggest issue with you Westerners, your holier than thou attitude towards the rest of the world, whose cultures you don’t give a flying f*ck about understanding, before you invade them for their resources… No worries, your decline is coming to an end… Just another empire of lies falling, just a page in the book of history.

[@karlloovali4531]

Was Putin in a bubble in 2014 as well??

[@Wishlake]

Agree. Peterson's points are ridiculous. I've been astonished since his Civil War video... wtf is he saying...him of all people

[@danolivier4899]

Jordan's another guy who's so busy hating the west he can't see actual evil staring him in the face

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Good question.

[@tylere.8436]

Or in 2008

[@Dudush90]

I think Putin is a great leader, I think for him no1 is Russia, he is patriotic, of course he leads some wars but who didnt ? and those wars were never as destructive as from US leaders...problem is also propaganda, EU/NATO together by US politicians spread into nearly whole Europe, and what US wants, that EU/NATO will spread, and people straight have just one opinion and dont see other. right now, propaganda how Putin is going to invade Europe, and many people really believed it, but in fact, there is not a single action or something dont know how to call it, that this is true. and still people believe it...crazy we are just like mind slaves or what

[@antonkravets5026]

It’s an interesting experience to see two smart people talk on a topic they don’t understand at all. And they don’t even have a clue.

[@lepsze]

Is in it funny how JP interrupted Lex to add part on how listening is important :) 14:10

[@RobMcGrath0]

It was, i thought i saw Lex smile at that too XD

[@TheKeithlb]

I giggled a little too. His timing was comedy on that one. We all human and continue to make mistakes. Love is the answer as we are all starting to conclude... finally. I'm excited to see this realize for the whole human population. I love you all!

[@jkws3724]

Good Listening has nothing to do with letting people finish speaking and everything to do with listening

[@lepsze]

@@jkws3724 this is kind of stretched interpretation. I can agree to some extent, yet in the same time I would still argue that listening is primarily about listening to the whole what other people want to say.

[@tomstark28]

@@jkws3724 hard to listen to what you haven't allowed to be said.

[@AZhangETH]

Blaming the war in Ukraine on ‘the woke’ is some of the craziest mental gymnastics I have ever seen

[@oslogutt80]

Then read more....

[@justinpiche7977]

Jordan Peterson is the man. Thankyou so much for this podcast Lex. You’re the man too

[@gsomethingsomething2658]

Lex, please get Vlad Vexler on. He has brilliant insight on Putin and the current war.

[@imagination1170]

He really doesn't, at the end of the day it comes to two questions. Do you as Russian president continue to allow the genocide of Donbass and allow NATO to park missiles on your border?

[@EZPZMAGA]

How about Vlad+JP with lex moderating?😜

[@Sophie.S..]

Vlad Vexler is a brilliant political philosopher - he has no time for Jordan Peterson.

[@nikital7541]

Vexler lives in a bubble

[@user-vr9qb5rj4j]

Jesus Christ! When I have heard Jordan Peterson talking about that Putin convinced Russians that Russia is the saver who will save the world from degeneracy of the West I got scared. How the hell he knows what people talk on my streets! This guy seems to me so smart and insightful in a sense that he can dig deep, very deep, take my respect Mr. Peterson. Great conversation! Thank you, Lex

[@mozes7786]

If you understand human psychology and how sociological concepts work, its not hard to extrapolate and gleam.

[@pindapoy1596]

@ Виктор Цай Maybe Putin did not have to convince his people that Russia is a saver. Maybe he just exposed the obvious faults of a capitalist regime gone wild and the Russians instinctively rejected that type of society. People (all over the world that have strong values) do not need to be dragged into convictions that their leaders attempt to impose on them. Russia and the Russian people are far from acting like the crusaders did when they wanted to "liberate" the holy places. They simply reject the way of life of the western world because the flaws are obvious to them. And incidentally, given that their educational system is far superior to that in the western world, they do not have to be told because they are able to reason

[@margieaustman]

I’ve heard this of Putins feelings towards the west…. A shared view of the easts views of westerners degeneration.

[@mozes7786]

@@margieaustman so move there if you like it so much ya salami

[@tankerd1847]

I think the saddest thing is that Americans, Brits and other Western Europeans can't figure out that we were doing the same exact thing almost 20 years ago when we were pushing to go fight in Iraq. We came up with BS reasons to go invade a sovereign nation in order to trick the people into fulfilling the government's greater geopolitical goals. Ukraine to Russia is cut from the same tree as Iraq to America. The difference is that Russia didn't back Iraq. I worry greatly what this conflict may become, I seriously do not want to see nuclear war or any war between the United States and Russia, the consequences would be unspeakable.

[@Fervillasmil]

I’m trying to raise my children so they can think for themselves with logic and to express themselves in a way close to what this two men accomplish. Lex is a Titan and so is Jordan. This articulated speaking of thought is what is disappearing from nowadays far to easy consumption of bullshit from all angles of fast net media experiences and kind of avoided by regular primary and secondary education levels.

[@jupitermoongauge4055]

You think Peterson uses logic ? Not really. He has a list of very illogical opinions that he attempts to legitimise through obfuscation and obscurantism which is complicated enough to fool a lot of people into thinking that he is using logic. Peterson is a con artist, a pseudo intellectual and guy who very often doesn't have a clue about the true nature of the things he is angry about which means he's just a run of the mill right wing reactionary bigot

[@good2freelance1]

Peterson is NOT qualified to talk about geo politics. He gave the military industrial complex a free pass for wars.

[@popodopulus3826]

ESPECIALLY about this russian invasion. He is wrong in virtually every point.

[@jojonesjojo8919]

Peterson is all over the place here - jumping from subject to subject. Dr Peterson - tidy up your disorganised mind.

[@ciscoscos846]

You can't even use correct spelling? 😒

[@ciscoscos846]

@jamesnthat you say that, for me criticizing your comment where you criticize someone else . Do you get special treatment?

[@drumboarder1]

I think years of being accused of stuff really messed with the poor dude. Conspiracy minded me thinks he was a target of the whole russian propaganda thing, make a rational person out to be hitler to divide n concur. He's only one to start losing their minds..

[@ciscoscos846]

@@drumboarder1 Hey!Hey! Get out of here!! I was giving him shit, not you! Get out of our thread. We didn't invite you here 😆 🤣

[@Longlivedixie7]

Loved the conversation until things drifted away from Putin & Ukraine. Would had like to heard much more of you twos thoughts regarding that. Thank you for the first part in any case.

[@markvel8605]

The think is that there isn’t much to discuss. Just another tyrant brainwashing his nation

[@spirokaci]

Mr Peterson,why do you have to have an opinion about everything? Don't you think for a second that you might be Wrong?!

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Talk to Putin about Love, Lex. And see how far that gets you.

[@AxionXIII]

Jordan, Keanu, Drake. Canada’s holy trinity.

[@jfd4755]

Lex you are a great interviewer and Jordan no more to add, eloquence as it best

[@argonaut5617]

Peterson is arrogant ofc, but what is most important there is that he's lying about the reasons of what's happening in Ukraine, doing his best serious face. He's just lying. Ukraine got anti-constitutional coup trampled main laws. That laws was made for people of Ukraine. Ukrainian govt allowed CIA to rule the country. All CIA wanted is false flag war with Russia, it's old as opium wars. All this Peterson's speech is another chewing gum for brainless homegrowed hamsters who believe CNN, the difference is minimal. So well, you'll feel worse of these lies after all, apparently that's what you want to get, so listen to Peterson further.

[@svietka202]

I thought wished he would have stayed out of a subject he knows absolutely nothing about so unfortunate but I can see you his own greatness is totally going to his head and instead of sticking to what he’s good at which is helping people especially men finding themselves he’s going into a discussion that is way way out of his depth

[@jaredthetrain5309]

Wow that last part about leadership was very enlightening.

[@Tod_oMal]

You mean that part talking to Congress people?

[@memnoch6646]

Mentioning Alexander Dugin days before the car bomb is crazy.

[@MB2.0]

His significance has been overstated in western media. He has never even been pictured with Putin. Most russians didnt know him before people started labeling him "Putin's Rasputin"(a title which in of itself is ludicrous).

[@king9096]

1 question.. why does the USA have so many military bases all over the world?

[@emulation2369]

"war is peace", US also has the biggest military budget in the world, biggest amount of prisons and people held in prisons, so much so for democracy I guess...

[@Super8888Baby]

Lex, your interviews are generally of the highest quality. This one is not because Peterson is not an expert on the subject. Interview him about psychology. He is out of his depth here and it is boring.

[@macpdm]

Wow JP with Lex fantastic. Would have also loved to have heard the conversation between Jimmy Carr and JP

[@alvareo92]

The conversation between Jimmy Carr with Jordan is already on the latter’s KZbin channel. Brace yourself as Jordan has met his equal: both of them interrupt each other to launch into their own monologue of whatever they felt like talking about

[@brucemace5404]

A brilliant man with Wisdom Something that’s hard to find in the world today.

[@RealityCheck6969]

14:10 "You Batman." Finally it's official. Lex is Batman. He knows karate. The secret is out.

[@Jagar_Tharn]

9:40 More evidence. I have to concur with your conclusion.

[@thomasweir2834]

I'm so bored of hearing this self pitying broken record regurgitating the same thing, for every subject, over and over again. I wonder if he stubs his toe on a coffee table and blames it on ‘woke radical leftists!!!’ He hasn't grown intellectually, ethically or morally in year's. Every subject he's professes to be some authority upon and yet has the exact same conclusions no matter what. Lex was by far the more interesting partner in this conversation. JP needs to take a break and get a grip on his resentments and fears. It looks and sounds like it's killing him. He's angry.

[@NastyDHL]

Not only has he evidently not grown, he’s severely regressed

[@Dadagagarod]

It pains me to see JP becoming Russia lobbyist.

[@Stefansrb369]

Maybe it's worst that British American and some Western European countries overthrev the 2014 governemnt,trained ukranian extremist. Why is US medling EVERYWHERE in the world accepted as the norm? Hollywood has brainwashed the world. NATO is global terorism. They bombed my whole country in 99 and created a criminal quazy state in our south,based on a fake "killing of civilians"(Actually Serbian polices protected our and šiptari civilians from OVK terorists,killed them,lay their weapons besides them. A filming crew came,they were german under US instructions,and moved their weapons and striped their amblems of their uniforms and then started "reporting".) That is Račak,a discusting lie,that destroyed a country and set it back a few decades. Not to mention they used uranium in bombs,which is not under Geneva convention,and even a lot of NATO soldiers got cancer and we are joining italians in sueing them. They are liar,deceivers,still colonial,and some who have the means are fighting back. I just wish americans,german and english would fight instead of slavic brothers from Ukraine,but the above mentioned are pumping weapons and making money. They left Avganistan but moved slightly NW it would seem.

[@Dadagagarod]

@@Stefansrb369 when russian bot answers to your comments on KZbin that's when you know you are right.

[@Stefansrb369]

@@Dadagagarod i'm not a russian bot. If anything,i would be a serbian bot,but i don't like my government very much to call myself that. I just see a sequence of events that have led to this. But you like what the US is doing for you,know this. They will fight Russia until the last Ukranian. But hey, keep just watching BBC news,im sure they tell all the truth all the time. Surely your not that naive ?

[@moorediane7831]

I am glad you stressed ‘good leaders’. I doubt we have many on seeing the poverty, hunger & homelessness in this world. The destruction of the middle class to poor is being driven globally by governments.

[@steelcom5976]

But you vote for those governments so YOU are to blame.

[@BeEnNLGaming]

Thats not because they are good or bad, its because they are greedy.

[@jacobsvensson8193]

@@BeEnNLGaming If they are greedy to the point of not caring if millions of people die as a consequence of their greed, is it then wrong for us to view them as 'bad'?

[@AydarBMSTU]

putin is no great leader btw

[@steelcom5976]

@@jacobsvensson8193 It's a human construct. It doesn't actually exist.

[@stephensullivan1011]

Why couldn't I have seen this earlier😭 yesss so excited to watch!!!

[@IBACb]

Maybe 3 minutes out of 17 were relevant to the ongoing atrocity in Ukraine.. the rest is just more of Jordan Peterson holding court, as if how he decided on what to eat for breakfast had some deep philosophical significance.. What a narcissist!

[@brexistentialism7628]

Why would he be narcissist? Because you don't like him?

[@thomasharkins3080]

Typical JP. Making the war in Ukraine all about him and his pet issue. What a clown 🤡

[@janglandis773]

@@brexistentialism7628 Peterson has put himself under immense societal pressure by putting himself out there as an expert in too many diverse areas outside of his scholarship and making so many bullshit statements. There are so many wiser, more honest, more learned intellects for people to listen to on YOUTube. Intellects who speak from their actual area of expertise rather than going off on arrogant tangents like Peterson. i.e. The cringe-worthy pontifications and ludicrous positions posited by Jordan B. Peterson: He strongly implied that women wearing makeup in the workplace invite sexual harassment. He was called out on this so many times, he had to waffle walk it back. Rules concerning men arguing with men verses men arguing with “crazy women” are unfair because men can't hit women. An essay in which he stated hating Muslim people wasn't a bad thing because all Muslims are violent extremists. His lie that every country with a Muslim government gives the death penalty for blasphemy. His completely ridiculous statement that ancient people knew all about DNA and that the medical symbol of the intertwined snakes is proof of that. Corporal punishment should be used to discipline children-even two-year-olds. (Rule 5) If he'd bothered to do any research on this, he'd have learned that studies concerning corporeal punishment showed that even spanking has long term negative effects on children. Exhausted fanboy parents are going to see this as Peterson's stamp of approval and spank or hit their children much more readily. His statement that he believes medicine kills more people than it saves. Irresponsible because there are gullible followers who may not seek medical intervention when they need it. His dream about his Granny's pubic hair in the book Maps of Meaning. WHAT THE FOOK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT. His twitter comment in which he presented himself as an authority on objective standards of beauty for women (and then quit twitter because someone had the gall to call him on it.) His dishonesty and waffling about when he was asked if he believed in Christ/was a Christian. His hypocrisy concerning his own 12 Rules. When life gets hard, take Benzos. His very uneducated stance on climate change. (How arrogant. That's not his area of expertise.) His statement on a BBC channel that racism was not a structural problem in society His statement that there are no reliable chemical means to stop smoking he says, and then immediately brings up the use of magic mushrooms. His deliberate misrepresentation of Bill C-16. He out and out lied about the content/purpose of that bill just to get another 15 minutes of fame. What a despicable man. Statement to Kyle Kinlinski that Bill C-16 causes confusion and transgenderism contagion. His arrogance at retranslating the meaning of various Bible stories as though he has a direct line to God--or as though he is God. Next thing he'll do is write a third testament. Wonder what he'll call it. His latest claim is that Putin is attacking Ukraine because he doesn't want the degenerate ideas of the west to infiltrate his country. Yeah, sure, like Putin stands on such high moral ground killing all those civilians with many children among them. Not a complete list of Peterson bullshit by any means. Sorry I just can't respect the arrogance of someone who presents himself as an expert in disciplines for which he has no scholarship-climatology, theology, nutrition, pharmacology, economics, politics. Peterson quote: "I shouldn't say this, but I am going to because it is just so goddamn funny. I have found a way to monetize social justice warriors."

[@IBACb]

@@brexistentialism7628 read my comment, its in plain english.

[@AutisticThinker]

5:29 - Talk about a coincident in timing mentioning Dugin... His daughter was killed with a car bomb (intended for Dugin) one day later. I've never even heard of him before today.

[@jamesalexander8872]

There is a decent chance that this mention resulted in said targeting

[@Boogra]

@@jamesalexander8872 I'm pretty sure it didn't. Whichever Ukrainian trashbin did this has been planning it for some time. The Left hates Dugin and his knowledge of the workings of the globalists. I guarantee you, though, that after this, they are about to hate him more. When you murder a man's child in front of him, what more does he have to lose?

[@Jake_Hamlin]

@@jamesalexander8872 not really considering the bombing was planned well prior to this conversation

[@jezcorrigan651]

Did not expect Jimmy Carr to be quoted in this clip

[@TheVitkuz]

When you discuss war you also need to discuss money. War is always about money

[@emulation2369]

@@Itisinthename it always is

[@tylere.8436]

Yeah, for the banks, the government spends money on war.

[@valentinofshteyn9246]

OMG, what a bunch of lies this guy Peterson is giving to you: philosopher Dugin? return to orthodox Christianity?

[@johnwhiteman7483]

I connect with Jordan Peterson when he is in improvisational mode. So much more natural heartfelt and empathic communication. In improve mode I feel like he could connect with everyone if they were willing to listen. When he reads it just feels dry cold and condemning. Improve mode he is so much more human. 👍

[@brutallyremastered4255]

In “improve mode” it’s just our fault we don’t recognise his generous genius? Fvck right off.

[@vhufeosqap]

Peterson’s presentation and reading of DailyWire has been bad IMO. If feels false…. snarly and aggressively delivered with a feeling of disgust and anger. Nevermind mind the dramatic word choice (cringe). Unfortunate really, he has come across like an open minded even tempered person in the past… feels like that’s missing much more often as time goes on.

[@FrenchCanadianGuy]

@@GStones58 wouldn't you love it if someone you disagree with committed suicide? Those kind of thoughts are just making your mental issues worst friend.

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

@@GStones58 so what?

[@jcstuart6978]

Peterson absolutely nails when it comes to Congressman. They need/deserve our prayers and support. It's a terrible job and a calling by God.

[@davidgroth26]

Jordan, great, thoughtful and insightful, as always.

[@jon-quijano]

Lex trying to get Jordan to see his opponents as humans, hoping to help him see the bubble he’s in.

[@MotoGreciaMarios]

I liked the video not because of what Peterson said but by what Lex said. Nobody talks about the pain, the horror, the hatred and the trauma that's going to go down for generations. Lex did.

[@PhoMiSideWays]

We can only help each other for the next event. It hurts to see people fighting.

[@NordicGroove]

Jordan Peterson becomes more and more senile every day. Now he thinks he's an expert in geopolitics. 🤔

[@Brian-nt1hh]

Really believe in the engagement of hospitality and enjoyment to support ideas of unity humanity and compromised change. Thx guys

[@jondoe8o]

I don’t understand why podcasters don’t have the balls to call out his vague bullshitting about things that he clearly shouldn’t be talking about as confident as he does

[@leroyharder4491]

Yet almost nobody in Eastern Europe wants a relationship with Russia. The long history of oppression since WW II is at the heart of the matter. So whose mismanagement is it? Most countries in Eastern Europe want a relationship with the west in spite of its many flaws including the hopefully transitory phenomena of wokeism. This is Russia's inability to woe countries into its sphere that is the problem. Act like a jerk then beat your wife because she doesn't want to be with you anymore. As for the green thing. I'm sure Europe is happy for the wind and solar they do have. The principle violated is the need for energy independence, one way or another. Same could be said for food.

[@Thorsanbauer]

Nice excuses Jordan. KGB is as KGB does. They interpret kindness as weakness and the weak need to be conquered.

[@rolandssprogis6393]

Jordan should study more on (a) who is Putin and what has he done since 1990; (b) when RU invasion in UA began de facto; (c) show me your friends and I’ll tell who you are! Who has been Putin’s (russia’s) allies and “friends”.

[@MB2.0]

*sigh* Then what does that say about the US and Europe who are allied with the Saudis, and who send cybersec experts to help Saudis spy on and torture journalists? This is geopolitics not a soap opera

[@andreasv9472]

Jordan Petersson interrupting Lex like : "especially listening" lmao! Fun duo 😉

[@claudiostulla9647]

Good point , I thought that , too.

[@claudiostulla9647]

Good point, I thought that, too.

[@TheSkwrl]

Were his comments referencing Peter Zeihan at 8:30?

[@jasonsierchio1167]

I appreciate the honesty in this conversation

[@nicolasgalileo7209]

From lex yes from JP just bla bla bla....

[@Cockmonging]

@@nicolasgalileo7209 what a dishonest take

[@nicolasgalileo7209]

@@Cockmonging you maybe right, but JP in my opinion never gives you straight answers, hence bla bla bla ...

[@Cockmonging]

@@nicolasgalileo7209 not his or my problem that you have an aversion against nuance lmao

[@nicolasgalileo7209]

@@Cockmonging I see you took the attribution to talk on his behalf. Me , I speak for I , me , and myself ... I like nuance when imparts useful meaning to a solid fact.

[@bookerdewitt2022]

Without love their is only hate, Without a conversation there is only condemnation.

[@user-ze9ih4cs3p]

Jordan Peterson is so good!!! Just a man who feel masses!

[@markfuller]

I think the answer is much simpler: Germany (predominantly) accepted the annexation of Crimea and continued business deals with Russia, more dependence on energy, etc. Germany apparently thought nothing more would happen. They had 8 years to separate. Instead, they got *more* "in bed" with Russia during that time. Former politicians in business deals with oligarchs. From Putin's perspective, he would think he hadn't done anything wrong. He was encouraged to believe he could do more, "they're not going to do anything." (Now Germany complains about how much they'll suffer this winter. They had 8 years? Why was Crimea a nothingburger all that time?). Someone else commented that the west failed by losing meritocracy. I agree 100%.

[@JustTayo]

Where does NATO expansion and the tradition of US fighting a proxy war comes to place?

[@mozes7786]

You are talking about a 70 year old man as though he has the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.

[@Cockmonging]

@@mozes7786 Didn't you hear? Painting your political opponents as comically incompetent but at the same time also the embodiment of all that is evil has become the norm.

[@mozes7786]

@@Cockmonging the two are not mutually exclusive.

[@yeehaw9303]

@@JustTayo NATO expansion has nothing to do with this conflict no matter how hard kremlin is trying to convince people. NATO is already at russia's borders and has been for quite a while. NATO would never invade a nuclear superpower, thus it poses no threat to russia, unless, russia wants to expand it's territory and start imperialist wars against it's neighbours. NATO expansion isn't the problem, russian imperialism is.

[@geppetto805]

Normally, I'm the first to defend him, but Russia is where Peterson completely lost the plot. Greetings from Eastern Europe, where the difference between culture war and real war is not yet blurry.

[@gerrardweatherlight2962]

Absolutely, I think it has happened the same to many people. Unlike you I'm not from that part of the world, but I was immediately put off by his take on the invasion of Ukraine. It was completely outrageous to me.

[@AK4.7.47Cossack]

Same he used to be very supportive of Ukraine and our peoples history. Seems like he's changed since joining the daily wire

[@stevepickford3004]

What exactly do you have a problem with?

[@jaimerodriguez1550]

In Lex we Trust

[@cmath6454]

Jordan Peterson is the king of pushing stories on everything and everyone. Thinking he's contextualizing reality when human beings form judgements based on themselves. In essence he just describes himself and pushes it on others.

[@brod7681]

I’d love to meet this brilliant man, respect his views and objective thoughts.

[@mudslutmusic9052]

Jordan Peterson is 🔥 to the modern ❄️... love it!!!

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

He's a blow hard. Ukraine is simple. Tis the season. Look around the world, everyone wants their empire back. China, Turkey, Iran, Egypt, Russia, France...

[@matityaloran9157]

6:38, that’s not setting the bar very high

[@artemlutsiuk3425]

Referring to Dugin as a "philosopher" - this is when you know JP understands nothing about ruzzia's aggression against Ukraine. Should have stayed in the psychology/personal development field, where people respected you, mister Peterson. Greetings from Kyiv.

[@aquilifergroup]

Anyone can be called a philosopher. It means nothing

[@DineshJ]

Lex... you are starting to become a more-rounded and total intellectual. I agree, the issue with the wars is an issue of spirit.... of bad energy.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

“bad energy”? Ffs, lol.

[@DineshJ]

@@brutallyremastered4255yep...bad JuJu I'm a goddam hippy what can I say 😂

[@hmq9052]

It's a good job you're not in charge of foreign policy

[@DineshJ]

@@hmq9052 it's true what you say.... I'd start every diplomatic meeting with a hug, a cup of Ayahuasca and then light up sense incense sticks.... Not sure if it would work

[@Boogra]

@@DineshJ Well, it certainly couldn't be much worse than it is today. That's for damn sure.

[@idontSHT]

Algorithm showed me less and less videos of mr Jordan P. I’m so happy to be recommended to his videos again 💜

[@its_just_that_yeah]

Stop relying on algorithms.

[@danolivier4899]

Dude, Russia has always been like this. You know nothing about this situation.

[@richardhollis2530]

Please get Alain Du Botton on your show

[@richardhollis2530]

@@commonwunder yep, you are right. I can’t even blame auto correct it was all me

[@LothairApoclyane]

@@richardhollis2530 Botton is equally a clown who should be brushed away into history, as the dust that they are

[@BS-lf3ev]

The US did the same in Yugoslavia in the 90's.. Absolutely the same!!

[@Looper4Life]

The point made about Putin being isolated during covid and the importance of human interaction was interesting. It reminded me of the scene from Goodfellas when around a table playing cards and laughing Jimmy called off the hit on Morrie.

[@gregolsen1099]

I didn’t know how to take that, though. Was it just Jimmy saying that to Henry, to relax him? Because not long after that, Maurie got the ice pick treatment. I thought it was a great build up, a bunch of guys, friends-out late drinking, and laughing, and the next thing I see, Tommy’s hitting maurie’s light switch. That’s the best way to describe the people who are in that life. Savage.

[@DetectiveTrupo203]

I was just talking about that the other day. Jimmy says "don't worry about tonight " and Henry's voice over is talking about how Maury would never know how close he came to getting whacked, and then the very next scene is him getting ice picked in the back of the head in the front seat of the car lmao, like what the hell

[@dang4546]

We have no idea what we will think next, and then, which thoughts will make it to our mouths. If we were present to this fact, and kept a question about who is thinking and whether we really know, it would be difficult to say so much, so fast.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

WTF?

[@J-BiRTH]

I think my favorite KZbin comments are ones like this, where you can't be entirely sure whether it's a wonderful and insightful piece of prose or the ramblings of a schizophrenic. Had to read this one a couple times, and I'm leaning towards it being the former, Cheers man.

[@GX901]

“To each act of opposition we must be in a position to respond by bringing on war through the neighbors of any country that dares to oppose us, and if these neighbors should plan to stand collectively against us, we must let loose on the world war.” The Seventh Protocol of the Learned Elders of Zion.

[@Kkkkkkkkkk747]

Lex, what you are missing in the entire picture is the global financial system. It's more important then anything else, because it's the last barrier preventing wars.

[@MADDcartman]

It’s hard for the financial system to intervene when many countries, namely Germany, are energy dependent on Russia.

[@weirdshibainu]

LOL. What you're missing is the global financial systems are often the catalysts for wars.

[@tiktokking1546]

That's the fallacy of structualism.

[@basilp5179]

Preventing? I’d say it’s the cause. See “Wall Street and the Russian Revolution.”

[@jamesmcdougal2]

West has weaponized the financial system to bend others to their will. Its a tool of war

[@oneworldonehome]

"War is destructive. It is destructive to both the winner and the loser, and it sows the seeds for future conflict. The damage is not only to material things, but to the nature and character of entire nations of people who are traumatized. Humanity has not matured enough nor has grown in wisdom enough to recognize the absolute truth of this. That is why outright warfare in the Greater Community [of intelligent life], particularly on any kind of large scale, is extremely rare, particularly amongst secure and advanced nations." _Life in the Universe » Chapter 7: Competition, Influence and the Mental Environment_ - a free online book by Marshall Vian Summers.

[@robertholland7558]

That paragraph deserves to be on the front page of every single news service

[@johnchapman5125]

Thank you for sharing!

[@eylonemuskson4177]

I do think that, especially in politics, there's too much talk not enough listen

[@MrFornicater]

Peterson lives in an echo chamber...swatting against the ghosts of 'woke'

[@vhufeosqap]

He shadowboxes the “woke moralists” with canned language and outrage… and practices his grimace and snarled faces for the DailyWire content lol

[@jmmone]

People want to hear him speak. No one wants to hear you speak. Understand the concept yet?

[@MrFornicater]

@@jmmone People like you, now that's not a high bar is it, my friend?

[@jimw.4161]

A civil, intelligent conversation... how refreshing.

[@jaredflurry937]

I’m not sure I agree that European energy dependency is the result of environmental wokeism. European states wanted cheap energy and weren’t particularly concerned about the mid- to long-term environmental or political consequences; that doesn’t strike me as “woke.”

[@johns.7297]

Jordan Peterson is an excellent non-linear thinker. Where is he going next? Can't tell, wait and listen.

[@timriverstone4767]

JP turned from an interesting analyst into a hearsayer/speculator/gossiper. That's a sad transformation. He's now one not worth listening to.

[@siamcharm7904]

i wish they had addressed the usa role in fomenting the war going back to 2014esp the infamous rand report of 2016 which lays out road for war in ukraie. at the end jp is describing what they do in china as i've so often. seen.

[@Seecked]

Wrong.

[@bl8346]

Jordan did not disappoint this type either... Unlike many other 'experts' , he really analyzed the Russian dictator deeply, even mentioned fascist Dugin who has a huge influence on Putin

[@SpiritTracker7]

Bleh... JP is always powering up and injecting. His job is to literally to make 7 neutral observational points, 1 christianity injection bonus point, and 2 politically steering injection points. Rinse and repeat.

[@freedinner886]

Jordans geeked on something... Needs to slow down and get back in touch. Ego's got him controlled.

[@RPMZ11]

When's the last time you had the ear of millions seeking a solid analysis.

[@jrudokas3141]

when you seek the insight of experts on a field of inquiry - get experts.