Eric Weinstein: On the Nature of Good and Evil, Genius and Madness | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Grammarly: grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium - Sun Basket: sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off - SEMrush: www.semrush.com/partner/lex/ to get a free month of Guru - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free 2:16 - Eddie Van Halen 9:56 - Leonard Cohen 17:52 - Battle between ego and humility 23:08 - Darkness and beauty 29:50 - Jimi Hendrix 32:38 - Good Will Hunting 36:46 - Revolutionary minds 48:19 - Next Elon Musk should come from MIT 52:44 - Love with save the world 58:00 - Are we headed toward a civil war? 1:09:34 - Joe Rogan 1:23:21 - Our political leaders 1:28:41 - Younger people should have more power 1:39:00 - The Portal 2:03:50 - Money 2:05:56 - Roger Penrose 2:13:36 - Jeffrey Epstein 2:32:14 - We need to get off this planet 2:35:11 - An update on Geometric Unity 2:41:03 - Gratitude

[@MamtaNarang]

Wise turtle Kung fu panda :) My fav person to listen too. Thanks Lex for inviting him again. And yo guys are ending with gratitude.

[@rushwilliams9147]

Next time you speak to him, can you ask him about the Wolfram Project?

[@Markov-Media-Association]

Lex man, I hate to agree with Eric at 2:03:22, but he's not the only person to have really spoken about this. Jordan Peterson covers it as well in one of his biblical lectures. It goes something like this, "There are two permanent existential threats to humanity. Nature is the obvious one, and the second goes to organizations that grow too large, too unyielding, and too willfully blind to be incapable of being incorruptibly managed." -- Personally, I believe that there is a third existential threat now, with the harnessing of the Atom. However, if an extinction level event happened, and wiped out MOST of humanity, then that threat could potentially disappear, so it's not technically 'permanent'. This is EXACTLY why Joe Rogan's podcast is having episodes taken down, it's why Jack Dorsey is having things happen in his company that he doesn't even agree with.

[@vivian3811]

Lex, you’ve done a few great round 2 & 3 interviews recently. Would you consider interviewing Joscha Bach again?

[@russellg1473]

@Reckless Abandon wow thank you so much for sharing such beauty, that I would never have stumbled upon. Thank you

[@DiNozzo431]

Lex, I know you're somewhere lurking in the comments here, so let me just take a moment to express gratitude for bringing us conversations like these - they're a pleasure to listen to in addition to being immensely important. This one in particular perfectly captures the need to be both ingenious and ingenuous as we move forward. Again Lex, thank you and keep it up.

[@billhopen]

"both ingenious and ingenuous" that's very clever...very true

[@ReinierFosch]

Seconded! And the comments on the comment before me. Lex (and Joe) voices of reason in the time we need it most. Please keep up the work you are doing. Please continue to do what you are doing. It is highly appreciated!

[@RickMacDonald19]

This particular conversation and the show Joe recently did with Alex Jones have been someof the best discussions of 2020.

[@paulinemurnin1364]

@Manny Santiago hear here 😜

[@paulinemurnin1364]

@@ReinierFosch feels great listening with like minded people these interviews are fantastic, finally realised I’m not depressed my thoughts are totally normal here 😂

[@francescole4086]

I am a sixty eight year old horsewoman, mother , grandmother, expert skier and divorcee. I am so grateful to have discovered your podcasts. I listen to them day and night on my iPad. I have learned so much. Subjects I never even realized I had an interest in. I am a political junky. I am so grateful for your intellect . You are a great man!

[@jackpaul3315]

Jesus Christ is Lord

[@konosmgr]

Well done lady, keep up!

[@ExploderMaster18]

When your first Word to describe yourself is : horsewoman, you should know that something is not right

[@YoutubeDictatorship2024]

I thought the horsewomen were extinct! Where do I enter the closet that leads to Narnia?

[@ABitefLife]

Do you get to listen to the podcast when you’re pulling your buggy around or neigh?

[@Kris-zw9gb]

I am one hour deep into this conversation and the overarching feeling is that I don't want this thing to ever end.

[@LukeJ4ckson]

I finished it, now I'm sad. Only temporarily though.

[@Kris-zw9gb]

@@LukeJ4ckson Same man. This was brilliant!

[@nigglewiggle4214]

about to resume from one hour... same feeling. to be in that room would be incredible. lex should get more people in the room.

[@isaiahmacadam]

I’ve paused this so many times to think... and drag it out. It’s 1:00am here now and I started listening during a walk when I initially got up for the day.

[@kn7cks347]

The worst part about a podcast is the closing conversation. I don’t want it to end so I just close the whole thing with 5 minutes to go

[@tsimakis100]

I think that what makes both of you so successful is that the both of you are real people. Genuine and humble. Open and honest.

[@isaacnow]

I almost fucking cried listening to this one. These conversations give me hope and help me realize that me and many other are not alone. I’m not American and I don’t live in the US, I point this out just because I want to acknowledge how far this reaches. Beyond culture, beyond nationalism, beyond age. These ideas and your sincerity is far more revolutionary than you guys realize. I know you see this, I know you see your audience and the power of your platforms but you do not feel what it is to be someone like me listening to you. You WILL spark the minds that will free us all. Thank you.

[@alexl8392]

Brethren 🤞🏾

[@nonthreateningmale]

Not ashamed to say I teared up too.

[@DanielHayes01]

Muh man, same here

[@soapbxprod]

Exquisite comment. Bravo.

[@good4gaby]

Synchronicity! You expressed exactly what I was thinking! Makes me feel connected! Thank You!

[@theremingtonjames]

You can just tell Lex is a good dude

[@fullmetalflix5195]

To quote nas " it aint hard to tell"

[@charliecampbell6851]

@Lake Kelley sorry, Eric is smarter than Bret. They acknowledge that all the time. Check out the chat they did together in their backyard; it’s mostly Eric trying to drag Bret through a simplified version of geometric unity physics and Bret has an extremely tough time. Meanwhile, Eric follows along with all of Bret’s biology stuff and then some.

[@timmydlookatme]

Smarter? As an X'er, his lack of general knowledge and life experience is evident. I highly doubt either would survive 2 days, dropping them in a rural area in North Queensland in the middle of summer, with a flat tyre. I'd give them both 36hrs.

[@RWin-fp5jn]

Quite and his struggle with the 'evil ones' is therefor interesting. At 1:03 Lex is addressing the thought of 'cruel human beings' going against the interest of the US, after this election. Probably correct. But they have always been there, we just outsourced their cruelty onto the non-west second and third world trying to maintain economic 'growth' by augmenting the western sphere of influence. In part the west could lead a luxurious live because of these 'evil people' and we should not be so naive and hypocrite towards it. The post 2001 effort to 'change' the islamic world into a western controlled democratic world, more for less failed, so no more growth. Next, the logic reaction of the 'cruel beings' is to destroy the west itself, so that afterwards they can re-start on a new growth trajectory. There is cynical logic in that. We can only hope the goal of the evil ones is not post-reset Marxism, but it appears it is their path...thats not in their self- interest, so the evil ones need to re-evaluate their post-resest thoughts, stop the current madness and find another way to build an economy which does require 1) honesty about all unfunded liabilities (pensions) and 2) abolish the need for relentless growth by tweaking future economic setup (no more government bonds, only expansion of a flexible quantity of money) and 3) accept and allow China a seat at the table as the biggest economic power. The evil ones can still profit of such a system. I would much prefer to simply be honest and take care of the old and the sick on a local level ourselves for a while. Interesting to see if they choose the path of honesty or self-destruction (blaming it on Covid). Currently we are on the self-destruct COVID hype path....

[@charliecampbell6851]

@@joshuad7953 he's a mathematical physicist, meaning he approaches physics from pure equations as opposed to most coming from it at a more science-based perspective.

[@jackstocker1349]

I think you guys should do a continuous joint podcast with guests and stuff. You are yin and yang. You two play off each other well and inspire and provoke deep thought

[@Scorch428]

its kinda the one man Eric show, and Lex fills in and facilitates when Eric has to take a breath, lol. Quite good, tho.

[@adeline7980]

That would be awesome

[@ralfnuggs165]

They really do have an energy that is so unique... it’s like dark beautiful gnome genius talking w a light ugly wizard genius.

[@AmariLynn8]

I agree !

[@lechsiz1642]

yeah, maybe every year on some major holiday the two can agree on one guest or two guests and have a deep discussion. i think Fridman should be allowed to loosen up with a glass of wine or two, though.

[@estrelazul13]

I never really listened to Eric before yesterday when I watched him on Chris Williamson's podcast. Now, after having listened to both podcasts, I can't believe that content like this is available for free! Incredible! Thank you Lex

[@shasmi93]

Haha me and you are having the same life experience. I stumbled onto Chris podcast by KZbin recommending it to me. I was so ENGROSSED im that pod with Eric that I sought out other pods with Eric and found Alex and Eric. It’s alll so awesome to have!!!

[@n.c.gettler6701]

Joe Rogan and Eric... then watch Brett... those brothers run for presidency I would do what I could to fix the election myself

[@liamhenderson3753]

​@@n.c.gettler6701I doubt either of them would want that. But, it would definitely be interesting.

[@jamesburr3640]

I wish there were a love button. The like doesn’t quite do it for these ones

[@igorkornienko7761]

It'll just become as regular as a like real quick

[@sweatyskinfolds1385]

Did you guys know that you can favorite things?

[@acceptable1000]

They used to have favorite

[@sweatyskinfolds1385]

@@acceptable1000 its now under the save button. you can save things to your favorites.

[@RipeTimes]

do you mean a "Mr. Love" button?

[@leestringer]

I've only recently discovered Weinstein. His bluntness put me off a little the first time I saw him, but when I started actually paying attention I realized that there's no malice in it. That makes all the difference. I really like him now, and Fridman as well, obviously. Both of them I discovered on Rogan. Say what you want about Rogan, but he has led many of us to brilliant minds like these two guys.

[@blaXkgh0st]

hear, hear.

[@vib2119]

Yep the greatest thing Eric taught me is that it is possible appreciate the character of someone who has a different informed opinion than mine. Still not great at using that skill but atleast I am aware of its existence.

[@jemadamson2715]

Same

[@cameronmachado1774]

He's a narcissistic liar, not blunt at all. Dude talks about free speech so much because he feels guilty that his boss, peter thiel, used his billions from silicon valley to kill a media outlet that dared discuss him. Weinstein wants to be a philosopher king, but he's a managing director of a Silicon Valley billionaire's company instead

[@jemadamson2715]

@@cameronmachado1774 interesting

[@SolvingTheMoneyProblem]

Eric's looking very healthy.

[@SKgoon]

Lee he’s wearing a Jason Voorhees mask

[@danbiehls8656]

Nice to see you here as well.

[@facesmelt9903]

I noticed the same thing! It must be quite a large change for us to have noticed. I guess that Athletic Greens company must be on to something!

[@mirroredname3389]

Yes, he is very agile.

[@McGovernGolf]

he's been walking 10ksteps a day

[@atomiclink2199]

"We have a huge amount of talent in the world, that's not sitting in it's proper seat." AMEN ERIC 🙏

[@jenamirgholi6004]

yep

[@a.k.emerson1705]

Amen to this.

[@CONEHEADDK]

Meanwhile - in "the wide house"....

[@jimosborne2]

Since the beginning of tribes apparently the intelligent and the wise are never the leaders. In almost every country or civilization. Even when the king or queen were completely crazed, people followed them. Even at the risk of world war. What is it in man’s mind that creates a world of followers? Or are we just slightly more evolved than a pack of dogs?

[@zysis]

He knows as I do first hand, that there are many cults or special interest groups that only recruit one another and also farm the minds of creative genius without a shred of care or offering credit. Took me a few years to realize that I myself was the target of such a group and even talking about it here will only lead to people calling me crazy or full of it.

[@the_original_Bilb_Ono]

Jesus Lex, as a muscian who wakes up every day for music and would probably been gone without music years back, this podcast is already off to a great start. I just woke up at 2:47am and we are having a bad flood from a tropical storm and im up in the dark quietly playing acoustic guitar while yall are talking, giving me cold chills... this podcast has grown to be my favorite thing online in general. I might even use the silly "L word" to describe my affinity for it.

[@alientube1984]

What were you playing

[@shadowspectrum]

Nothing silly bout love my friend. It gets thrown around all willy nilly but be sure that it is the most pure and potent force in the universe. Shame there's not more of it out there.

[@the_original_Bilb_Ono]

@@alientube1984 just making up stuff. Playing a I, IV, V blues progression is mostly what i did with little licks improvised on the V and turnaround/ 7th V chord. I can do that for hours and hours. I just noodled around the entire podcast, ran scales, and made up songs based on the chords of whatever key i find myself in.

[@alientube1984]

@@the_original_Bilb_Ono I have no idea what all that means but I'm pretty sure I do the same thing, Ijust put the first blues backing track on KZbin and improvise notes in between

[@alientube1984]

Something like this, first take totally improvised. Is you style similar instagram.com/p/CCEsslvnMGw9WocC7fCaUQpH3mwDYx8sMmAIgs0/

[@stormbreak13]

For Eric, it seems his PHYSICAL safety is something he's concerned about when speaking truth to power, and that he's not merely concerned about being de-platformed

[@Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr.]

He's been scared for awhile now. 🙁

[@gandalfo]

I think he’s more worried about the safety of his family.

[@whereasthepeople]

I get the feeling of severe consequences

[@cmag8924]

Did you ever came across the idea that he thinks of himself as being a wee bit more important than he actually is?

[@warpmonkey]

@@cmag8924 I think Eric's reach and reputation means that he's much more likely to piss off powerful people. It's a hazard of his job and he's (properly) taking it seriously. After all, he is the Managing Director of Thiel Capital and is very well connected.

[@eyeingi]

" We need people we can trust behind closed doors and then we need to close the doors so we can't see what those people are doing." -Eric Weinstein Beautifully stated

[@goeddy]

I really like how Eric is challenging Lex to take a stance, to disagree, to not back down. This is the kind of stuff that makes a podcast interesting to listen to and I wish Lex would be more critical towards his guests more often. As always the questions were well prepared and I hope you can take some of the spice from this conversation and add it to future ones.

[@achunaryan3418]

thank you for stating this opinion. :)

[@toodiablo]

Agreed

[@xyzzy4567]

I disagree. You don’t want to put your guests on the defensive.

[@Dryicicles]

This is Eric Weinstein trying to upload as much of his wisdom as possible into LexAI, so that lex can change the world because Eric believes that lex has more potential than himself.

[@tord1508]

He believes we have more potential than himself.

[@BrianSchneiderNyc]

you nailed it

[@Stadtpark90]

Lex IS changing the world. AI or not.

[@Low_commotion]

Age alone would justify that conclusion. It's the tragedy of Gen X.

[@antoninanikolajeva209]

I see it different! Eric is the type of genius that gives inputs by his ideas and theories and Lex is more like Elon Musk type - a bridge between theories and reality

[@geekvinos]

(1) "Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -Heraclitus (2) "Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day." (keep fighting the good fight, Lex)

[@billhopen]

Ironic, this poetry of war....Odd, the best is brought out in men in acts of destruction and violence ,in combat and mortal struggle.....if only there was such poetry and feeling and heroism involved in service, empathy, love.

[@SeanSilas_IronWrath_GTR]

Lex, I use to work at Fender guitars and Ed’s guitar line (Wolfgang) was manufactured there. I was a tester and had the opportunity to meet Ed once. My hero. We talked and talk about the moments of life and being a musician. I didn’t get a picture because they told us not to ask. I should’ve. The day he died, he is one of the two I wept over (Randy Rhoads is the other) because of how much he inspired me as a guitarist. One of the nicest down to earth rockstars I have ever met. Thank you for this episode! Eric is incredible.

[@Nscladyweareamused]

RR ❤ 👍

[@BotLoud]

Whenever I'm in a dark place I feel I can always come to this channel to redirect my mind away from the negativity. I only wish I had discovered yall sooner.

[@WeallAreAdults]

you still visit ?

[@Ro-ni7nm]

Being able to open someone up is a priceless attribute!! Every human feels they have a compelling story or theory to tell or discuss... So many introverted human beings have come and gone in silence... Imagine the conversations not had???

[@omarsohal926]

An AI guy talking to a physicist about music is one of the best conversations I’ve listened to!

[@levimaxton6307]

40:26 also incredibly sick band name. 'The Chemical Orchard'

[@palakalola3744]

Lol. (Ok then don’t take me seriously!)

[@yowsa52]

I could listen to Eric endlessly. What a mind

[@dnbjedi]

Eric is such a ridiculously beautiful person. His uncompromising demand for the unsung heroes to sing is so intoxicating.

[@andy14169]

hes in danger of falling victim to his own pessimism these days though...sure, lex probably needs to be a bit less of a romantic optimist, but Eric needs to let some of Lex's rosy vision into his life

[@kylehustead5930]

One of the most interesting conversations I've heard in while. I felt as if I was watching a wise grandfather getting in debates with his very smart grandson. They butted heads at some points but always brought it back home and came to a mutual agreement with each other. This is a model of conversations should be.

[@screwyouguysimgoinghooome8479]

That’s a great take. Lex is young and full of hope, Eric is older and has a bit more pessimism. Both valid.

[@questor55]

I oscillate between appreciating Eric and being irritated when he tells the person he's talking to what they should be doing. I know its supposed to be encouragement, but it seems to reveal his somewhat domineering personality. There's no way he'd take it from someone else.

[@TheVeritas2100]

@@screwyouguysimgoinghooome8479 Cody , more like Lex is a NAIVE ( or pretends to be ) young PUP, and Eric is a wise & experienced "seer" who actually calls a SPADE a SPADE !

[@Mainecoon_Izzy]

@@TheVeritas2100 that’s exactly what Cody said......

[@deborahrose8621]

@@questor55 Lex knows exactly how Eric will respound to a sincere question and seeks that authoriative rhetoric that is Eric's trademark. He also makes himself small (in a good way) in the way he stamers out his question or concern. It's the dynamics, the dance, that we are watching. Eric is not dominating. Frankly, I love Eric's authoriative response. I would be disappointed if he gently blew smoke up Lex' ass as to not offend a random listener. I'm also a listener and I LOVE authenticity. Lex would not have Eric on the show if he did not know or appreciate his gifts. That's my take on it.

[@Mikey_Anthony]

Lex you’re a great friend dude. Noticed so many times how you’ve subtlety tell him to laugh. To loosen up, have fun, etc. that’s valuable.

[@mandala4240]

"There's a huge amount of talent in the world that's not sitting in its proper seat." That really got me.

[@stevenrogersfineart4224]

Same here. It's something I've deeply felt was true but hearing it out loud from a respectable person makes it real lol

[@Scorch428]

Eric has his flaws, but he is somehow usually right.

[@Slassh69x]

@@Scorch428 Eric is flawed just like any human but goddamn his insight on the US neoliberal class and its disastrous 30+ year economic policy is so on point. Not preparing a world super power for a time when true growth is no longer viable as it once was is criminal on a level like no other. The entire criminal enterprise that makes up all of DC needs to be removed and prosecuted with extreme prejudice. The Civil War in this country is not about, not race, sex or religion like the media pushes at the top of their lungs. It is class warfare the likes I've never seen. Eric is braver then he gives himself credit for and Rogan will be remembered centuries in the future for changing this generations culture. He made us wonder and believe while corporate power had a complete stranglehold on all other sources of media.

[@m-bronte]

Eric is right, truth be told the world runs by the practice of nepotism. The wrong people will always get the opportunities according to law of cronyism.

[@valley5617]

i feel guilty at 64 not having taken a seat.

[@granthawkins88]

jesus I can't get anything done with this stream of podcasts Lex!

[@Actualhumanlive]

Listen on a podcast, don't watch on youtube

[@wheatandtares9764]

Grant Hawkins Sure. Brisk walking in nature!

[@Jen.K]

Like Lex, I used to believe that every person has a core of goodness. I spent years trying to find that core in someone, with love, understanding, kindness, acceptance. All I got in return was lies, abuse, neglect and finally the most stressful separation and divorce imaginable. Finally I woke up and learned about narcissism, and other 'personality disorders'. Whether some people are born without the capacity to love, feel empathy or have a conscience, or if early childhood experiences cause this abnormal brain development to occur, I don't know. But the reality is, a minority of people have no core of goodness, many are good a faking it though.

[@ailsaeccles111]

I needed to hear this. Sorry to hear you struggled with it too, I'm there currently.

[@shavonne4831]

Nicely said Jen.

[@Jen.K]

@@ailsaeccles111 If you are stuck in an abusive or narcissistic relationship, check out Richard Grannon, he has several youtube channels which deal with this issue, he also has a web site which offers courses to help people heal from narcissistic abuse. Richard wasn't around when I was learning about personality disorders, most of my early understanding came from the work of Prof. Sam Vaknin. I was born into a narcissistic family, then went on to have a string of abusive relationships. Getting free from my programmed pattern of choosing this for myself has been the only way I've been able to find genuine peace and happiness in my life. Getting free was a rough road though. The key was learning, and then putting into practice what I had learned.

[@zakatista1330]

Here here.

[@surfside75]

Jen K .. you basically have described much of my own life. I now know I'm not alone. Thank you and be blessed💙

[@therealandonlyadam]

You guys compliment eachother so well. Thank you

[@freddieoblivion6122]

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent." - Lorenzo the busdriver

[@catalinavram3187]

On of my fav movies of all time

[@marcusaurelius2399]

joe biden is "censorship" bc "censorship"is leading to the chilling effect and no discourse but a lot of "trigger response polarization" mask studies say in frequent use they can do "censorship"

[@nomorebsforme]

Actually the unexploited talents are refreshing and inspirational...

[@EmileAI]

I'm thinking about that each fucking day But I don't know how to help people see the world differently. I don't want to force them, I want to just show them my point of view and decide... Anyway

[@PahaPoniesSpanishMustangs]

Interesting that we use movie quotes to guide our personal lives. That line there... I grabbed onto first time I heard it... I always remember it... It pushes me

[@CanadianPrepper]

Was skeptical of Weinstein before this, but then he started talking about Jeffrey and I was sold.

[@charliecampbell6851]

He’s authentic.

[@TopShelfTheology]

I dunno man, the number of Kung Fu Panda references he makes is getting me second guessing, haha j/k I love Eric.

[@Breadlywins]

@@duckpigs6130 that part didn't seem to rub me they wrong

[@ThePsychicProject]

@@duckpigs6130 as far as those things go, he’s a little bit of both. not to the point where it’s intolerable though. Maybe you haven’t met many arrogant and self righteous people.

[@ssssssstssssssss]

@@duckpigs6130 If that bit bothers you, you need to grow more tolerant of other people's opinions. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I didn't find anything he said to be "disgusting".

[@stuartalanbecker1407]

I fell asleep and KZbin had jumped to this from an earlier Lex video and it really floated around my dream state and the quickness of the conversation and the vocabulary of interchange was perfect for me.

[@envyxsavi8033]

"What is the point of creating obscene wealth if we don't have anyone smart enough and caring enough to use it."

[@Alistair]

for real, Elon Musk seems to be the only billionaire who cares more about doing cool stuff than amassing money. Will be interesting to see what he does with his Tesla money after he risked all of his PayPal money bootstrapping Tesla

[@jedahn]

👍👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@pinchebruha405]

@@Alistair the only reason want obsceane wealth would be to create my imagination

[@MG-ow5wh]

@@Alistair r/EnoughMuskSpam

[@lilfr4nkie]

My mans’ is on what we like to call “fire” with these conversations the last couple weeks🔥🧠

[@Arjun-eb1yc]

Young idealistic genius talks to older cynical genius.

[@Ajamukb]

@J C race realism doesn’t stand intellectually in any capacity.

[@Iamconnorlee]

@J C Where in the pod are you referring? Was this reply not to the notion of Lex being an idealist genius/Eric a cynical genius, or were you trying to negate 'Lex is a genius' with this?

[@obi-wanshinobi2353]

@@YourLocalCopiumDealer true crime fan?

[@manekenasapco1736]

Both shilling to the highest degree, brate. Weinstein works for Thiel, who creates this surveillance software shit. He s not your friend.

[@andrewpascale8453]

The sands of time will erase both of these men in just a few hundred years. Life will go on. No one will know of either. Good talk nonetheless.

[@shawnbell1971]

Holy crap! I'm only halfway through this podcast and my mind is blown. I don't even know what to think! Literally mind-blowing. Thank you Lex Friedman for being the guy you are!

[@ChevyRob313]

Anyone else feel childhood excitement like Christmas 🎄 morning, when a new eric weinstein interview pops up?

[@kevinmitchell9151]

If there is a god, I swear to said God I didn't see this before posting my comment lol

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

Yup!

[@dtzyYT]

Even more so since Eric stopped uploading in his channel.

[@taylorc2542]

He's just too damn precious. I get a charleton vibe when skips around ideas by dressing it up it up in flowery bullshit that's says nothing.

[@bryceelischer819]

He is a lighthouse in this storm of shit we call 2020.

[@derz3199]

This is truly an awe-inspiring conversation.

[@kevinmitchell9151]

Each time I see Eric pop up on this podcast in my timeline (especially before a nice 3 hour road trip) I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve.

[@sheilac5319]

Absolutely marvelous interview. There's a neat chemistry between these two. I like Lex's eloquent and thoughtful challenging of EW, and the subtle humour in EW's responses.

[@matty31272]

Lex &n Eric, This conversation has made me realize how hungry, starving actually, I am. I'm sitting in the wrong chair and I need input like this from tangible people similar to you guys; but where are they? I have deep and satisfying gratitude for understanding my needs. Now the hard part is working on where to find genuine and beautiful people to invest in, who'll also do likewise. I am hungry for depth and meaning, purpose, to share with others. Thank you both!

[@isaacnow]

Matty I’m here, I see you. There are many many many more like you, like me, like them, like US. We just have to keep our eyes open. Much love my friend.

[@antoniolau8762]

One of the most interesting conversations I've heard in while. I felt as if I was watching a wise grandfather getting in debates with his very smart grandson. They butted heads at some points but always brought it back home and came to a mutual agreement with each other. This is a model of conversations should be.

[@MrClockw3rk]

Don’t comment when high

[@matty31272]

@@MrClockw3rk Huh? What are you on about?

[@seadpod3014]

A tab of good sunshine acid will serve you well and give you everything you need without the trouble of having it all moderated for you by two guys trapped in a particular time and space.

[@stevegreen5638]

This felt like a last conversation between the hero and his master before the master goes to fight the OP overlord.

[@2189fallenangel]

‘It’s dangerous to go alone. Take this!’ *hands over master sword+

[@paprikash8574]

Keep smokin

[@JoshuaKBadu]

This comment is too profound

[@unbroken1010]

Was that another weird video game reference I'm not even sure that's the main problem here

[@2189fallenangel]

unbroken1010 yes, yes it is

[@lpz123]

This is one of those “I see I immediately click” videos

[@wjkrug]

I wish I met people like you (me) in real life

[@Bentam64]

I am a simple man, I see Eric Weinstein on Lex and I click

[@pmrsfr]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Most liked comment on this comment section

[@mattjonet]

Word

[@ilikebigbytes4371]

Same here! 👍

[@camj256]

I love how Eric acts as a mentor in many ways constantly challenging him to be better.

[@purpl3ttuce]

I absolutely love the subtle father & son vibe these two have. Along with everything else that goes on here

[@BigDaddyDru]

“There’s a huge amount of talent not sitting in the proper seats” spot friken on, mate.

[@CheekClappersPodcast]

Oloff - Doing It Stealthy

[@jamieholmes1287]

This is one of my favorite youtube channels. Lex you are a TRUE gem of a journalist and interviewer. I am so happy to be alive during such amazing times as these, learning at vast speeds in comparison to any time in history that we so far know of and its all at our fingertips on a daily basis. What amazing times we live in!

[@ScottyMcFly100]

Lex “Because I’m Russian” Fridman

[@ilikebigbytes4371]

I'm sure Eric will be on Rogan soon for post election 😁 Awesome Interview Lex! ❤️

[@dose2two]

Eric: ''You're a child!'' Lex:''That's something a child would say.''

[@everettmarc8785]

Totally

[@bnjmnwst]

I loved that! Sometimes I feel that Eric's rebuttal style is harsh. I guess, by some definition, it is, but his response to that response was great. Lex called him out, and he laughed, in a manner which suggested that he'd been caught. It was a very genuine moment. I liked it, just because Lex got Eric to laugh. That doesn't happen often.

[@CE-vd2px]

Eric was right though.

[@bossHogOG]

DoseTwo commented: Eric: “You’re a child!” Lex:”That’s something a child would say.”

[@benmorrison8533]

Eric may be right, but he certainly didn't sound right. Back up your claim instead of insulting the other person.

[@myfirstseven]

I love Eric more every time I get to hear him. What a beast! “You’re not authorized to find new food.” 😂

[@Acetopy2]

I expected to enter a talk that starts about complex math, AI and Eric's TOE. It was a nice surprise to hear him and Lex talk about Music and to hear Eric singing. Awesome.

[@adwaitkulkarni3567]

I'm a hardcore hip-hop fan, & to add to Eric's examples of Cash, Simeone; Eminem does the same in his song 'Lord Above'. He ends the line by saying "It's just on a side-note, me & Mariah didn't end on a high note." He actually ends it on a low note & never mentions the Mariah saga again, meaning he just left it on as a side note. PS: thanks for this mind-stimulating convo, lex. Eternally grateful!

[@floydjaggy]

“Whose podcast is this? It’s yours.” Lex - “...yes?”

[@anthonycarlino4604]

heckuh funny bruh. Lex is the most stoned sober person maybe ever

[@banan9782]

In that moment Lex is waiting to hear what unexpected thing Eric will say

[@mirroredname3389]

Omg lol, what a "zombie" trap if you get who yours is.

[@antiquated4430]

@@anthonycarlino4604 LMAO so true

[@dorothymilne1258]

Another reason why it was love at first sight for me.

[@naturalbornchiller158]

Such a great episode. Thanks Lex and Eric. I spend a lot of my time on my own bored, you guys keep me stimulated with a smile on my face.

[@jmanjman2685]

The Weinstein Brothers are both so interesting and actually helped me be a better human being.

[@tvo7781]

At 55 years of age, I believe this is the most fascinating interview I've ever heard.

[@bethanyperry2266]

So glad I found both of these guys !

[@KazzArie]

The ones where he appeared on JRE were pretty good too. No politics, more about his theories. Which makes the portal really good as well! I hope he has Bryan Callen on pretty soon. No rose colored glasses between those two guys.

[@kingcountyband]

It's amazing for sure, I see them both in a different light, but in the best possible way

[@jillysd884]

ME TOO, JUST STUMBLED ON THIS ... NOW FOLLOWING LEX, AND WILL WATCH MORE OF ERIC, knew of what happened to Bret. Thank you for this interview & all that was shares ... it moved me all that was shared. Thank you ~ Jill, a retired Pediatric Oncology Nurse who deeply cares ...

[@john.ellmaker]

This is one of those magical duos found in podcast-space, Duncan/Rogan, Nikki/Whitney and Lex/Eric. Never fails

[@Pow3llMorgan]

For obviously very different reasons. I was initially quite aghast you would compare this duo to Nikki Glasser and Whitney Cummings but then I think I saw where you're coming from.

[@jimjam6598]

Dont forget Tim/thin air

[@AloeHahh]

Also Bill Burr/Bill Burr 😁

[@SCrdo]

Theo Von/Bobby Lee

[@fingfangfoom2399]

miss my days in the academic world because you can't have these conversations in the real world very often... if ever... these guys have continued to engage in the joy of freshman intellectuals getting to exercise their mind trying to change the world. the difference is that the freshman have no idea what they are talking about... these guys do. I believe you have to have engaged in this type of dialogue with intellectuals to appreciate it and be able to sit and listen to it for 2+ hours. Kudos!

[@sujitmanoharan4268]

Let me sum this up for you. Lex: Do we have hope? Eric: Its cute that you're a Russian with hope.

[@bethanyperry2266]

One of many I love !

[@Scorch428]

Lex is just younger and hasnt seen as much of the world yet. The pessimism will come in due time. Eric is correct. As usual.

[@kevt9189]

A conversation like this gives me hope when I listen to our politicians and media I become depressed about the future.

[@jenamirgholi6004]

maybe the media can do a 180 and acclimate to something off the cuff.

[@georgesoros2544]

That's the idea

[@georgesoros2544]

Consider news media. Why do they report on suffering... Yet never SHOW the violence and butchery? Are we children, can we simply not handle horror or is it not good taste? Who determines that? One argument is to protect children's innocence... But I don't know about you nobody protects children from pedophiles, and how many women are underage and on OnlyFans? The answer you must then come to is that it isn't done for our benefit. Something weinstein said struck me today from episode two, he said, we are being prevented from experiencing reality, the outrage the anger, the courage that dealing with those emotions does to a man/woman, and the growth... We are being prevented from getting uppity, and riotious to maintain the public order that would be natural should we be allowed to see the horror our foreign policy does overseas. Just now the domestic policy of how police treat the minorities and unfortunate is being made clear. It can't be hidden.

[@c.golden8280]

@@georgesoros2544 so what are you doing personally to make a positive impact?

[@govindagovindaji4662]

@@georgesoros2544 And exactly what good has showing police treatment of blacks done to correct our situation~? Not much I can tell. I guess there may be hope springing eternal, yet, I do not see it. I think our country is either too big to be governed by one admin or we need to elect a number of Senators in the Congress as proportioned to the numbers of people in their states, fix gerrymandering, repeal Citizens United, rid ourselves of lobbyist, take money out of politics, and rid the Electoral College, shorten career memberships in Congress, end the filibuster, fix the Supreme Court, and, and, and.... These are starts. Good luck, millennials, and & all people under 40.

[@yoginero]

Ivory towers Lex vs the unsantized street life of Eric, there is big perception gap. Higher levels of abstraction needs to built on solid foundations, even if we want to fly. Eric is fantastic! Lex is faithful!

[@matt-g-recovers]

I absolutely love music and played guitar for a very long time, drums I can play also...but I never learned too much music theory and never knew we could get so much from it. Incredible Eric, you impress me more each time I hear you speak.

[@A-X-1621]

Sir, this is my emotional support podcast.

[@trinity9365]

I can't express how much insight I got in listening to this conversation. Thankyou both so much 💜

[@carlton4610]

Thanks Lex Fridman for these talks with Eric Weinstein, who is pure in thought and deep in spirit and a total inspiration !!!

[@Malusifer]

Lex's naivety is both his greatest strength and biggest blindspot. "They can't silence you." Tell that to Jeffrey Epstein.

[@Low_commotion]

Hell, tell that to MLK. And thank god they he lasted as long as he did.

[@classiqueliberal8576]

I was looking for someone who already made this comment so I could upvote it so that Lex might get it...

[@itechnwrite]

Tell that to JFK, RFK, MLK Jr, John Lennon, Seal Team 6, Andrew Breitbart, Edward Snow...the list is long, both past and present. Both heroes and villains have been silenced, male and female, young and old, friend and foe alike. Anyone who gets in front of the corrupt system’s speeding locomotive. It is unbearably naive to believe conspiracies don’t exist. Any detective worth his/her salt could share endless cases of human tendencies toward conspiring to commit crimes. Conspiracy is a scalable skill, used for good or evil. Unfortunately, mostly evil. And the good win far less often than the fairytales suggest.

[@Slassh69x]

Tell that to The New York Post.

[@itechnwrite]

Lisa LPH - Exactly.

[@peripheralinkling]

Lex, I'm so grateful for your courage and intellect. Thank you for giving us these podcasts. You enlighten my world.

[@Wanderer-uc1sj]

I’m here again. I can’t stop replaying this stellar episode. I found myself getting quite emotional at the end when Lex (in his always true humble element) says to Eric: ‘Thank you for existing’. Lex, you’re a very special human being, a genuine soul. May all your dreams come true. ❤️

[@HeyyyitsBell]

exactly!!! god bless this man!

[@harlequin904]

At times I tend to lose perspective with all the gratuitous self serving disingenuous characters dominating this sphere that we’re all attached to. It’s refreshing and even heartening to be able to listen and enjoy the stimulating conversation you provided here. Thank you both for your commitment today. Outstanding.

[@LukeJ4ckson]

Man, it's sad that Eddie died, but I'm glad there are still people out there that are continuing to advance guitar like Yvette Young, Tosin Abasi, and Tim Henson.

[@ksam7969]

Yvette is great, thanks for introducing her to me in your comment!

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

Can’t forget Guthrie Govan.

[@spuddo1000]

@@alanraymundo has a way for the world Health Organisation has not to ever my point jZkik

[@LukeJ4ckson]

@@alanraymundo That's one of the reasons I commented this, I was hoping that if he hadn't heard them maybe he would check them out sometime if he saw the comment.

[@LukeJ4ckson]

@@ksam7969 yeah her band Covet has been my favorite band for about a month. The drummer is always so happy too.

[@CSwift-vr1qg]

Eric talks in such a way to where it sounds like he’s constantly on the cutting edge of saying something profound. Pretty fun to listen to but leaves you blue-balled sometimes. Nevertheless it’s generally good content

[@fattyjaybird7505]

I find it funny, i've heard him more than once, wonder why he's not more popular, but then mention he's unconcerned with popularity ... i mean he could be speculating, but .... catch 20? ( or whatever phrase) .... he does talk , more than needed, and, frankly, Jordan Peterson had more to say and, to me, had less of his ego involved...., id have to say, thats probably the biggest turn off Eric has, his hard hitting self proclaiming, assured he's correct and stating that, instead of continuing to back the point

[@BasedHawaiian]

He does love to hear himself talk. From my experience, if you cannot explain something in lay terms, you do not know it well enough. That’s how I feel about Eric. Also, I’m not sure he is right most of the time because he, as you say, always leaves you hanging.

[@jedahn]

Weird. I find him quite relatable. At a guess, perhaps he has an aversion to telling people what to think. But it depends on the example I guess.

[@fattyjaybird7505]

You guys are some deep thinkers... i love it 🥰

[@JoTokutora]

@@fattyjaybird7505 Everyone has an ego, some are better than others at making it known. Eric certainly has very specific views on subjects, but are clearly sharing from opinion. Conspiracies as example was fairly straight and clear, but he's style of speech delivery and jargon can be indeed distracting

[@maxadams9368]

God I love hearing Eric speak. He always has such a unique perspective.

[@maxadams9368]

@@666goats what

[@shineon7641]

... the one thing that these "Self Deletions" have in common, is that these people went so very deep into the darkness... Alone. Alone seems to be one of the defining factors which lead each into a pit of Hopelessness and Angst, deep enough to lose their way. This is easy to see, in hindsight, that running the same abstract Thoughts and Fears around in the same head has no choice but to arrive at the conclusion that Ending the Nightmare, permanently, is the only way out. When Alone, the thinking Mind is an Awesome Servant, but a lousy Master. I Love you and your Podcast, Lex and I really appreciate you having Eric Weinstein on your channel. Eric is such a thoughtful, Dynamic & Experienced gentleman, you both had 100% of my attention, the entire time. Thank You. Keep Smiling... Cheers...

[@smportis]

Lex: "One has to be a masterful communicator in these divided times...." Eric: "That's why you're here." Lex: 😳

[@markhunter941]

Classic interview Lex, Ego's left at the door and let the love happen. Eric is searching as you are, I am glad to be able to participate. Thanks from Oz.

[@7KRTN]

The ups and downs, the ins and outs, the deviations and back agains, the joining and dismantling of the dots, the contradictions and agreements and the vast distance these two men travel in a conversation is downright inspirational.

[@WalterHolokai]

"To not believe in conspiracies is an idiocy." This is true. Thank you Eric Weinstein.

[@vladwake5176]

It all depends on which conspiracy theories people believe in. I do believe that some conspiracy theories are not all theories, but I do believe there are people that are falsely led to believe or hired into spreading false ridiculous conspiracy theories which in turn give bad names to the real investigators that uncover the true horror of society above, inside and below the ranks of hierarchy.

[@deborahrose8621]

@@vladwake5176 That's because there are Many Theories of Conspiracy Theories and they are all propagated. This is strategic. The theories that best align with the person's potential will be the one that sticks. And when we are smart, we know that some are ludicrous. If we are not smart enough, then we assume what we disbelief is entitled to the fake news crown of Conspiracy theories and throw the baby out with the bathwater. When this happens, the TRUTH (the baby) sneeks back in under our nose and we lose the plot. Plots exist. They are all around us. Conspiracies EXIST. Yes, and to protect them, many imposters are released and crawl the thought channels looking for a path to exist.

[@GrimSleepy]

If you research the history of the word Conspiracy, it used to be a recognized mutually understood occurrence. The kings and emperors played mind games on their sources of labor and resource gain, and it was well known to happen. After all, most of the people in that position seem to be inbred and self-proclaimed deities.

[@GrimSleepy]

@@vladwake5176 hypothesis/hypotheticals*. My apologies, I'm a grammar Nazzy. A theory is an idea based within and heavily reliant on facts. First one has needs a submitted written theorem for academia to prove false.

[@GrimSleepy]

@@deborahrose8621 That was an actual occurrence supposedly, but the baby that had drowned in the murky water of the whole household or possibly village bathed in, doesn't crawl back. If it does, you might want to do like the Zombie Land movie taught as a primary rule: double tap!

[@UFO-zi2bp]

Eric name dropping Rodney mullen and expressing his willingness to meet him just made me respect him infinitely in terms of his recognition for genius

[@hahag-zw6qn]

a sPANISH BUGGED!!

[@josepalacios843]

What a conversation. Thank you, Lex. I'm watching it for the second time now.

[@georgesoros2544]

3rd or fourth time now for me

[@Squirrel-zq6oe]

Same

[@marions.120]

I’ll have my second go around soon!

[@Qwerty-mc5zi]

I am a 37 year old mental health nurse and I love listening to your podcasts

[@NH-cr2dc]

Welcome to "The Portal" with my guest Lex Fridman.

[@iconoclastmusic368]

The idealist vs. the realist, when two worlds collide. 🌍💥 🌏

[@garyttomo1641]

My thoughts exactly,I love Lex and I hope he's right but I think he's just wishing for good

[@vladwake5176]

Either way, voter fraud exists and whoever supports or denies the existence of the fraud is nothing more than a failing idealist and a pretending realist.

[@toby4187]

More like an idealist and a disgraced cynic with very little ground to actually stand on.

[@ghostmourn]

They complement each other perfectly.

[@nikkichadsey4712]

Aint that the truth

[@The_Dapper_Millennial]

_The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained_ _The Gulag Archipelago_ *-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn*

[@dapdizzy]

Great! This masterpiece of literature is still on the far to read list for me. Just amazing to read this citation in English.

[@tiname599]

Thank you Lex! You and Eric are a delight. Takes me back to my "hippie days" when we could actually talk to, and listen to, others and learn new things at the same time. Expanding our minds and learning to consider other ideas and opinions is freedom! Shutting out the noise. Farout!✌️

[@cbob213]

The depressing thing is I won't ever be able to have a conversation with either of these guys. The beautiful thing is that I can listen to them chat to each other. Love both you guys 👍❤

[@shivakrishnarama]

You underestimate (as do many) the power of your own imagination.

[@thatdudephilly]

I feel like both of these guys would talk to anyone

[@cbob213]

@@thatdudephilly oh I know they would. I live in Australia, not California 😉

[@twotwotwo871]

@@cbob213 Ahh yeah, impossible to move.

[@david196609876]

They have discord servers and regularly drop in.

[@jedabenel2117]

The most brilliant explanation I've ever heard, On the song by Leonard Cohen Hallelujah.

[@BobbyCoggins]

"Don't F it up, Lex, we're depending on you." -Eric Weinstein (and the rest of us)

[@jeffreyriggs2494]

No stress. :)

[@DukeRaul]

Yeah!

[@vladwake5176]

Most people that are considered to be geniuses are mentally unstable. Their personalities, hobbies, interests and their attitudes along with the way they treat people behind the public eye are all demented aspects of somebody that does not have a stable mentality.

[@stevee.7419]

Eric is one of the finest wordsmiths there is. Kudos to this man!

[@ashtonhamlett9465]

I have had literal chills a couple times, hearing other people talk about music the way I think about it has just filled my soul in a way- idk it feels comforting

[@michaelmilson7538]

Right? Music has always had great power over me. Unlike anything else. It is one of my favorite aspects of being alive. And few people understand what I mean when I try to describe it. I’ve been on a contemporary classical kick lately and it’s not uncommon for a piece to move me to tears. Like seriously what an amazing time to be alive when you can have all the worlds recorded music literally at your fingertips

[@jpcough6591]

@@michaelmilson7538 I’ve been a musician my whole life, and am trained on composition, production and studio work. In my opinion, nothing in life has the ability to instantly take you back to a place/time in your past like music does. Think about songs that remind you of past life events. The deep feelings of nostalgia just take over, and you are temporarily transported back to that time. Music is a magical thing, tied to mathematics and consciousness in ways that even professional musicians don’t fully understand. Being in a band, and making these harmonic frequencies With musical instruments connects you to the universe in a special way, and hearing it does the same thing. Hearing 2 guys who are experts in math, AI and physics talk about music, is very interesting, and it’s good to know that these guys recognize and respect the connection that music has to math/physics 👍

[@michaelmilson7538]

@@jpcough6591 or how music and can be repurposed into mnemonics to aid in learning or remembering orders of operation, the alphabet etc. and somehow it can stick forever. People suffering from Alzheimer’s retain the ability to play musical pieces they learned much earlier in life (even if they remember little else) or people remember melody and song lyrics perfectly even if decades have passed since hearing the particular song. I am hesitant to apply the term magic to any phenomenon, but for now, and for all intents and purposes, it is magic.

[@ArcaMids]

God, if Lex thinks he's an idiot - I'm screwed.

[@Kenji1685]

me too.. :(

[@angeloaquinojj]

As people get smarter, they are also revealed how much they don't know in the process. Helps shed the Ego, not for all of course

[@pekkalaitinen8769]

better to remain ignorant of one's own stupidness

[@brentiers]

No genius declares his own genius. Humility is a prerequisite to true genius.

[@rollinmark8952]

@@pekkalaitinen8769 Ignorance is bliss! lmao!

[@envyxsavi8033]

I'll listen to Eric Weinstein talk about mangoes and politicians all day.

[@3DegreesNorth638]

Is this man related to Harvey Weinstein?

[@mikepaulus4766]

@@3DegreesNorth638 not even through pronunciation.

[@mikepaulus4766]

Oh, I'll vote for mangos.

[@brenthopkins8275]

The singing should be left out.Eric's....

No, he is not related to Harvey.

[@CP5699]

What an exhilarating conversation this is. SO many mind-expanding ideas. ONE thing I'm totally on board with -- "Warren Zevon is one of the most important songwriters of our time." Oh, how I wish that more people were familiar with his work.

[@teenieteenez]

I adore Lex. Love how Eric keeps him on his toes.

[@Xzor]

Rewatched Eric's last episode a couple days ago and thought it has been awhile and was looking forward to a good conversation... And here's a new one! Between Eric and Manolis this is a good week'👍 Lex... Stop reading the comments.

[@TrapperBV]

“I don’t see the point in having obscene wealth and not having anyone smart enough or caring enough to use it.” - Eric Weinstein What a perfect statement.

[@juliewilderman8782]

And self deprecating....

[@simplymoney3735]

Well akon is building a city in Africa and Kanye is building a city in Haiti so there are if you look hard enough

[@l.jamesbarlow3137]

Maybe Bezos with all his wealth can tack 45 seconds onto allotted toilet privileges for the vassal at Amazon. He can probably afford to... Unless the 1.2% he pays in personal income tax is killing him. Smart & caring? NOT!!

[@paulski1080]

Elon, we need you!

[@davethepants]

"but i'm an AnGeL iNvEsToR"

[@27july1954]

"I remember my old mind. I liked it better" Thank you. That is the first time I have ever heard so succinctly articulated something that has nagged me for decades . I too remember and hope I never forget. I remember when I expected the world to get better. It flavours your world view in a way it is difficult to explain to anyone who has not lived that experience. It didn't mean that I didn't think there was bad stuff going down. Of course there was. But that expectation would always return to looking for the positive rather than the negative. All I can do now is try and help my children and grandshildren deal with this Brave New World rolling out before our eyes, and hope that we do dodge the bullet racing towards us from the gun we have fired...

[@JacobMachineM4CH1N3]

Sounds like Eric is afraid of his life. Great to hear your disagreement here, very motivational. Never lose hope and keep being true to yourself, no matter what. Feel your pain and doubt and choose life forward regardless. Just my opinions here.

It's an act. Listen to his podcast with Andrew Morantz. Eric is in on all of this.

[@MrPrebuttal]

Lauren Love Can you expand?