Lexus FINALLY Builds a Dirt Worthy GX Overtrail To Take on The Land Rover Defender!

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After Lexus revealed the latest GX last year, Tommy and Roman finally get an opportunity to try it out off-road. While our off-road review is to come (check back on February 1st), the guys take a closer look at what all you get with the built-for-purpose "Overtrail" model!
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[@thebigguy8306]

Thank you, Tommy and Roman, informative review. Love the boxy Land Rover styling. I'd really like one, and I didn't get one for Christmas

[@malifestro3319]

The continued disappointment of clicking on a fake TFL thumbnail is starting to add up.

[@maxkendal5152]

Traffic Jam Assist? The only extra most Lexus owners will ever need!

[@briangallagher7961]

Seriously living in Jersey yes I’d buy that feature! Also this model is better suited for pot hole crawling!

[@PeakDecline]

I like it. The second and third owners are going to love these things. First owners might take them through a couple dirt roads in a National Park.

[@mikeobrien9428]

Great dad son dynamic on the review

[@symple19]

There are two overtrail editions, a base and a plus. This one appears to be the plus, but if you get the base it still has all the important off road stuff and is significantly cheaper (until dealers inevitably mark them up, at least.) The base starts at $69k while the + starts at $77k. I'm eager to get my hands on a used one in the future, and I'll be looking for a base model, not the plus. For somebody who wants to offroad I think that one will be the sweet spot as the plus version just seems to be filled up with luxury features that I personally don't need. They are great looking rigs, can't wait for them to hit dealers so we can start seeing some builds.

[@Cocky.Rooster]

You can order base without sunroof to take off another $1000-$1100. Trying to confirm base still has power liftgate just no foot kick sensor.

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

I think the standard Overtrail is where the value is. You can get a ton of good features and still make out with a $70k price which I think is a steal for what you get.

[@Slythey]

Lexus is one of a few manufacturers that lets you get heated/ventilated seats and a few other creature comforts in the low/base trim models, whereas everyone else tends to lock them up to mid tier or top tier. That's why I never see a need to buy a Lexus vehicle beyond base/premium- the luxury versions generally add stuff that no one cares about (rear door kick sensor, power 3rd row, rear air suspension, rear entertainment, worse wheels for ride quality).

[@TXJ232]

​@Cocky.Rooster Lexus doesn't allow custom orders anymore. All of the initial allocations will be loaded with options and will have a sunroof.

[@Cocky.Rooster]

@@TXJ232 all of them? Like for sure, all of them? Every single one? They won't ever make a gx550 w no sunroof? Not ever? Oh wow thanks for that great info

[@commandertopgun]

EXCELLENT review guys, well done-stunning vehigle-thank you for posting. & update.

[@yayinternets]

Great overview guys! I totally agree with your last point about not needing to upgrade. My qualifications: my GX460 was literally the very first 460 to have a Toytec lift installed. 😂. I was buying 4Runner parts blindly way back when because the 460 didn’t have anything available when I started my build. This thing comes from the factory ready to go off-road with 33s. Most people should be able to leave it pretty close to stock and still be able to do 80% of what Colorado offers.

[@grisa12345]

Interesting video title. The GX550 wasn’t developed to take on the Defender. If anything, the Defender was built to take sales from the GX460, but between the new GX and Defender I think most people will be taking a GX if they can get one. Body on frame, solid rear axle, full time 4wd, more reliable brand etc.

[@ckm-mkc]

More reliable is really the only differentiator, but it's huge. Otherwise they are equally capable off road. As they say in Australia "If you want to go off road, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back, take a Toyota."

[@Slaxsvo]

Highly doubt a vehicle like the Defender was worried about the GX460. lol

[@grisa12345]

@@Slaxsvo If you know much about the auto market and its consumers, you would know that yes, Defender was designed with the hope of acquiring conquest customers from Lexus and other brands. Defender sells in smaller numbers -NEW- than Lexus moves the dinosaur GX460. Of course Land Rover wants some of those sales..

[@clarionguy7712]

More of a brand preference. Each vehicle will have its own fans no matter what.

[@shmac96]

I think my only complaint would be the giant chunk of a front end that is the grill and bumper. The proportions on this Lexus are perfect. Also, I can't remember the last time I heard someone say "more better" lol

[@jonmc7583]

Just to clarify, the one youre showing/pricing is the overland plus. The regular overland is about 8-10k less.

[@hedges00]

Well done gents. Enjoy the Ritz!😊

[@jancker06]

That’s a really good review. I liked how you compared it to the new LC and the 4Runner specs.

[@flyfishac11]

It’s marketing and the marketeers have it right. It’s direct competition with the LR Defender and a perfect response. Both are cool and the 2nd hand market will have a lot of fun with this one in years to come!

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

*GX been dirt ready since the GX470... you can't go wrong with a GX* 😅

[@robbysilver8167]

Ciao from Italia! Super review love it!

[@lunamaria1048]

An integrated stealth winch will be super easy, where the removable part goes. Similar to where my 4Runner's winch is!😊 Excellent video!

[@michaellui74]

Tommy great job great review 👍👍dad must be proud, great job too roman😊

[@brianthompson3809]

Wish it had the 40/20/40 split rear seat like the 4Runner. Nice for taking 4 folks on a ski trip with all the gear inside.... and also a flat rear surface area with all seats folded down. Otherwise loving everything else. Can not wait to see one in person

[@torquematters8815]

Could not agree more with Tommy! As a family with an aging LX570 I really wanted to consider the GX550 Overtrail, but without the third row I can't justify it. I want to take my kids with me on my adventures. Adding the option to have a third row is a must. Also worth noting I love the fact that you can get an Overtrail trim WITHOUT a sunroof.

[@Motorheaddoc]

Great review. When the hybrid comes do you think it’ll be the 2.4L hybrid or the V6 hybrid from the Tundra?

[@runnerxa]

LX600 does come in a more off-road package with front and rear lockers. That is a level above GX550 Overtrail with only the rear locker. The Off Road package is not available in the US/North America version of LX600. You can purchase that in the Japanese market and certain markets. LC300 GR Sport also can be speced with front and rear locker. With the current yen to USD rate, it is cheaper to buy LX600 with Off Road package than in the US. But you'd have to use it in Japan... So unless you are Japanese or married to a Japanese, it is pretty much a no go for most of us in the US. Same with the LC300 GR Sport, 8 million yen for diesel or 7.7 million yen for TTV6 petrol; that is about $54,500 USD!

[@Bewdz]

“I was hoping you’d say chow” “oh okay bye” 🤣🤣🤣

[@joshgonzalez2112]

I wonder if you could transfer the front form the LC to this?

[@exparrot9074]

How is the Mark Levinson sound system in the new GX? The previous gen it was unfortunately a bit lackluster, while in the IS it was phenomenal.

[@antonahill1750]

D the back seats just fold down or do the tumble also?

[@heyRex]

Love it!

[@helgewilliams6757]

Love it, sign me up, I'll take one...WAIT, HOW MUCH...never mind

[@piotrk1047]

🤣 + 1, imagine putting a some battle scars on it 🤑

[@peaceofmind03]

Do they have separate cooling systems for turbos or just one radiator for the whole ?

[@rogersalameh7843]

I think not that not having a 3rd on the Overtrain is a miss because as far I can tell, you can have the floor fold flat. Whereas in the Premium and Premium+ you can, at least from the videos I have seen. Unless you really want ALL the off-road goodies, it seems the Premium/Premium+ trims may be better. An additional point, mostly a styling issue, it seems to me the Overtrail have a lot of gloss black on the exterior, which would not handle scuffs and scratches well.

[@BuRNingFLaN]

The upcoming hybrid Land Cruiser will come standard with a 2400 watt inverter--- something that isnt yet offered with the Lexus. For powering a campsite or small trailer, can use the inverter, and not have to bring a portable generator + extra gas.

[@getinthespace7715]

Inverters are cheap. The batteries aren't though.

[@Dusdaddy]

What are you bringing? A TV, Xbox and fridge? That's not camping. A 400w inverter should suffice.

[@chibbyylol]

Due to it being a hybrid, the upcoming hybrid GX will likely share the same inverter

[@CJ-rk5eg]

The battery will also take up cargo space i- see the LC 250 pictures

[@PeakDecline]

​@@Dusdaddy Fridges are extremely common for overlanding setups. It eliminates dealing with ice and offers far better temperature control. If you're on multiple week long trips that's a huge plus. I've done lots of backpacking in my life. I have no shame in bringing creature comforts with me on overlanding trips and it means friends and family are far more likely to come along.

[@JER-mw6md]

Question about the off-road trim vs luxury - does anyone know if the NVH and sound dampening would be the same between the two versions? I have not seen any reviewer comment on that.

[@OldThomMerton]

What a beautiful rig! It's crazy that the average price for a vehicle is around 50k . . . . . . . . . but that makes this lovely, very capable Lexus almost look like a bargain at less than 80k.

[@donleamon8653]

So I just sat in the Overtrail (err whatever Over label they attach) GX at Barrett-Jackson in Scottsdale. Meh. Felt like a RAV4 inside. My '97 LX450 is a damn bit nicer feeling. Granted, you're not expecting a real fancy interior for this use case, but it just felt overly plastic-y inside. Missed having real analog cluster too. Exterior proportions were nice. The new Prado 250 was over in the Toyota booth. Front end with the round lights looks nice in person. No Ineos at the show which would have been nice to compare to.

[@danielnelson8304]

Nice truck.

[@henrybui6353]

Is the extra 4" of length compared to the incoming lc250 in the front end ahead of the tires?

[@DD-dj4jr]

Exactly. Identical inside size.

[@ejshelby5460]

My local (Westchester NY) Lexus dealership is already on deep back order on the 550. More than 100 People have already reserved

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

I've seen videos of these things offroad - was that taken at this event? I've spec'd out a basic Overtrail edition for just over $70k and am thinking of sending the order to the dealer.... Not quite ready to have a car payment again though. Grr. Also not thrilled about the hatch rear. The side swinging door is amazing for opening it in the garage and not having to expose myself to the northeast weather .

[@jimmy-buffett]

The "From The Ground Up" videos that Lexus has been putting out about this truck were shot in Colorado on Imogene Pass last fall. This GX drive event was this week and the driving impressions are embargoed until February 1st. So the videos you're seeing most likely weren't at this event.

[@seikocitizenwatches]

Very exciting Lexus off-road

[@patricklawrence2755]

I like this thing If I had the cheddar: 1. Lexus GX 550 2.LC200 3. 4Runner TRD PRO Would be my list to shop for to upgrade from my current 5th gen T4R.

[@michaelhalstead64]

Would have loved to be able to drive before purchasing my Land Rover last year. Love my LR, but this is maybe the only thing I would trade for in the future.

[@Mark.AUS.]

Can you please ask the engineer why the overtrail has this plastic on the transmission hump in front of the rear seat and the premium has the transmission hump covered in what looks to be the same material as the floor which is how it should be for the overtrail? That plastic on the transmission hump in the overtrail is going to get scuffed/damaged in no time.

[@haanjamiis]

I really like both the new LC and GX. Even though I'm a LR owner right now. Too bad the GX is not sold in EU.

[@yournightmare9999]

You live in wrong continent

[@shirolee]

HAHAHAHA that intro!!! Gosh, that thing is beautiful!!!!! F! I want one so bad!

[@edwardpeters4700]

In all honesty, I think the GX550 Overtrail models are more Land Cruiser than the new Land Cruiser 250. eKDSS is a phenomenal system. The manual disconnecting swaybar in the LC250 is a step back from eKDSS. 3 to 5 years from now the Overtrail is going to be an incredibly high value lease return.

[@PeakDecline]

If you plan on never upgrading suspension then eKDSS is an awesome system. But if you want to upgrade the suspension to long travel with extra long control arms and such, then eKDSS makes that far more difficult and costly. I also have some questions about how the differential in the front is setup. The GX 550 has the 3.4L V6 engine found in the Tundra. The Tundra has a front differential design that is incompatible with front lockers. The LC250 meanwhile is the 2.4L hybrid shared with the new Tacoma. The new Tacoma's front differential is compatible with a front locker. If GX550/LC250 match their engine siblings... then that's another area where the LC250 could be superior for those planning to modify for more capability. I also think the body work on the LC250 looks like it'll be easier to fit steel bumpers front and rear, or at least require far less cutting.

[@edwardpeters4700]

@GnosticDevice For the type of vehicle it is, 33ˋs as available factory are sufficient. As for suspension modifications, itˋs different, not impossible. Thereˋs no shortage of tastefully modified LC200ˋs and TRD Offroad 5th gen 4Runners. Bumpers will be a bit more difficult for those who donˋt like cutting plastic, but no worse than it is for LX570 drivers.

[@PeakDecline]

@@edwardpeters4700 If you think 33s are fine then that's cool, this is probably the right vehicle for you and eKDSS the right system. I want more capability and I believe the LC250 will be easier to build to that capability. LC200 vs LX570 is a perfect example of why these complicated systems can be an issue for modifying. The LX570 with its ACH system has far fewer aftermarket options. And yet again the bumper situation... less options, more cutting. I'm just explaining to you why people would choose the LC250 over the GX550. I think it'll be easier to modify and have more options. But if you don't want to go that far... then sure the GX550 seems right for you.

[@edwardpeters4700]

@GnosticDevice 33ˋs are fine for the next vehicle Iˋm currently contemplating (mostly a still capable but nice daily for my wife). Going harder or doing more difficult trails is what my 80 series is for.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@PeakDecline Total Chaos offers mid travel KDSS compatible arms for the 4Runner/GX460 so I am not sure why that wouldnt be possible with these new ones. Additionally, the pictures and videos I've seen of the GX550 eKDSS system, it uses conventional sway bar end links as opposed to the bar being mounted directly to the arm like on the GX460. So i really dont think that will be an issue. You can keep the end link mounts in the same position on the arms and still run longer travel setup while retaining decent handling on the road.

[@AlbertManiscalco]

looking forward to seeing them with off road bumpers

[@peterdement]

Consider including the payload value for the vehicle you are showing. The tow rating is less important than the payload which is usually the first to be violated.

[@stevecarlson2346]

A nice choice for an upscale off roader. As an owner of a built GX460, I am a bit dismayed that the front fascia isn't more modular and accommodating of a winch bumper, as mentioned in the video. I had to deal with this on the 460, and it is a PITA, making for a loooong day to install a bumper. I am also a bit dismayed that the new powertrain is only 2 mpg better than the old one, albeit with more power. I'll stick with my NA V8 for that tradeoff.

[@jimmy-buffett]

I'm looking at that front bumper imagining all the plastic I'm going to have to cut to put a winch on it. It's a shame they didn't do something more modular like on the Land Cruiser.

[@stevecarlson2346]

@@jimmy-buffett I was intimidated by the idea of cutting the fascia on my 460. The reality was, it was not really difficult at all, but very fiddly and time consuming to get right without going too far too soon.

[@jimmy-buffett]

@@stevecarlson2346 it's all about the template that the bumper folks give you. I have an Expedition One bumper on my 4Runner and had to cut a bit of plastic. It looks like Lexus made the bottom center insert on the bumper the spot where they expect you to put a winch, which means no full winch bumper. The parking sensors seem too low to put a bumper over them, looks like they would need to be relocated.

[@notthatkindofachannel]

I have a strong preference for Toyota and Lexus vehicles, but it's essential not to overlook the fact that Land Rover's Terrain Response System boasts an exceptional off-road program, even without a differential lock. Despite Land Rover being perceived as less durable compared to others, its off-road capabilities are truly impressive.

[@rugged9769]

Taking my 23 GX black line to Toytec after OEM tires wear off. A lift kit costs way less than than 20K price difference and I get 3rd seat with V8 engine too

[@raymondfrank9202]

good one

[@lav1daloca]

All Toyota/Lexus SUV trucks are best in segment so you cant go wrong with any of them starting at 45k with the 4Runner not bad

[@briangallagher7961]

This is the best trim! It is a man’s truck and honestly the price of trucks if I have to spend my money on anything it will be this cause it will hold its value

[@HNLSFO1-808]

Wait a minute. Are those "CORNERING LAMPS"? I am SUPER excited to see LEXUS/TOYOTA kept them. I wish they would put them on more vehicles.

[@peaceofmind03]

Tommy- Gx550 overtrail + or Sequoia TRD Pro both costs almost same? Why?

[@Goingplaces101]

I don’t know if I would want to go beat up this beauty on the trails honestly

[@robertannable9584]

Love the father & son duo. Great job, fellas. Thank you for all the great content. Roman, please stop bashing conservatives all the time. Most of your channel's fans are truck loving patriots.

[@varindersingh2622]

Lame dad comment warning. Boy its so heartwarming to see you guys doing a review together.

[@ozman528]

It's gonna be a tough decision between this and a 300 series GR in a year or so. ATM I'm leaning more towards the Lexus. Looking forward to more reviews

[@ddmarsh21]

Luxury off-road is a bit weird of a use-case but looks cool.

[@paulm6481]

Wow that is a good looking SUV. Out of reach price wise but gorgeous.

[@mattjohnson6227]

Agreed. Really like the look

[@joaquinpaul8205]

I think the LandCruiser version looks better though

[@ryzen397]

I'd get the premium, the overtrail+ is over 13K more! BUT, I absolutely love the look of the new GX. It's just bad ass

[@MisakiLeasim]

A Land Cruiser would be a dream for me ❤

[@MercOne]

I think I like the Land Cruiser more, but I like the V6 in the GX550. This pricing for the GX is in the heart of the market and it goes without saying this thing is going to sell faster than they can make them. The question still remains though, where will the next 4Runner fit in with the LC and GX?

[@Jay-me7gw]

I wish they were putting the 3.4L V6 in the Tacoma and LC. Even if it was detuned. Im not super interesting in the hybrid

[@trailrunnah8886]

At first I was thinking the 1958 Land Cruiser at 55k was the way to go, but after pricing one of these out without a sunroof at 69k on the Lexus site, this might be worth the extra coin. I'm super curious about that hybrid powertrain though, so the jury is still out.

[@markhilzenrath839]

What kind of watch are you wearing ??

[@kyles1621]

Binnacle is a built-in housing for a ship’s compass.

[@dadventuretv2538]

Just saw one at the auto show. It was pretty nice. I think if I had been looking to replace my former LR4 with something similar this would be high in the running. I love that engine. When I used the builder it came in at just under $73K which is actually a pretty good deal these days.

[@GreenMountian]

I can wait to see one of these in my local mall parking lot! Do you think this will make the little g wagon boys jealous?

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

we take our GX to the mall.

[@davidfloyd9134]

Which one do you think will be better for overland

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

The only thing about that rear gate opening upward like that is that if you lift it, you might hit the top of your garage as I know very well with my Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk .

[@michaelfeatherston3430]

You can adjust where the tailgate stops.

[@Dusdaddy]

Yeah, even the wife's 2015 Nissan Rogue hatch is adjustable. She hasn't hit anything in our garage since she got it.

[@Cloud30000]

Can we get a video demonstrating how easy it is to hot swap the lower chin piece? It would be nice to have a beat up heavy duty chin to take on the trails, then swap it with a pristine chin for daily commuting to the office.

[@shawnsimmons8268]

Any "offroad" model that incorporates a hybrid system is ABSOLUTLY a no-go for me! I really liked the new Sequoia as well.😔

[@RabbiJesus]

Finally? Lexus has been smashing it with their Land Cruiser.

[@misterllemos]

I assume he’s referring more to the American market where LX’s here are used for mall crawling, interstate highway travel, and soccer practice. GX’s are treated the same here, too. Hopefully more Americans will take the 550 off the beaten path more frequently.

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

​@@misterllemosLX and GX are plentiful on the trails in America ❤

[@RabbiJesus]

@@misterllemos I see more Lexus SUV’s off road than F150’s. Do you wheel?

[@lav1daloca]

My 2007 BMW 330xd M was 94k new so to get a Lexus GX with e-KDSS for 70k in 2024 is a steal

[@TheEulerID]

Is there a full sized spare under the floor? I would have thought that for a serious off-roader, that's going to be essential, and you surely can't mount one on that tailgate.

[@jnmaher1967]

Screen is flush with dash. Nice to see. Most Toyota screens pop over dash.

[@davereid-daly2205]

I'd buy one, especially after a review like this....

[@NoxNoctisUmbra]

When will the new 4 runner be announced?

[@pech_wake_day1153]

Ain’t no one taking their brand new Lexus luxury off road 😂😂😂😂

[@Daypause]

Does it require premium fuel?

[@thebestskibum8346]

if you can't install steel bumpers and 37" tires, then it's little more than a mall crawler... I'd definitely look at the lux version though, maybe it can tow my Jeep ;)

[@MW-pw9ip]

I appreciate the evolution of this series, but frankly this makes me appreciate the outgoing models more. I trust Toyota/Lexus’ ability to continually improve so we’ll see.

[@mrcountit]

Do a test of towing with a lift kit and wheels, and stock. See if you can approximate the tow rating after lift and heavier wheels…please? 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ty90k80]

Please show us the Base one

[@moflexmusicinc.6060]

Now does it park itself like the tx

[@shashanksaikumar]

It’s the Land Cruiser Prado with a Lexus badge. Like how the lx is a Land Cruiser 300 with a Lexus badge

[@Dusdaddy]

Roman, you forgot to mention the towing......you should have just said it when you first brought it up. Also, visually, the tires appear to stick out much farther than those humps in the hood. I don't think I would use that to tell where my tires are.

[@GeronimoJenkins]

8,000lbs towing. Was waiting for that too but had to go off and look it up. (per Car and Driver)

[@Jimmy-zq2mj]

Per the TFL comparison video yesterday, Lexus just updated the towing to 9063lbs except the Luxury +.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@GeronimoJenkins That's funny, Pickup Truck Plus SUV said 9000. Maybe not the trail model.

[@coolcid8888]

What’s the thing on the top of the steering wheel?

[@Bigbillyrayfan]

Probably watches your eyes and beeps if you look away too long.

[@Ctb1998]

This might even have the ineos grenadier doa in the U.S. market, we will see

[@DirtEveryWeekend]

This has to be a Overtrail + I am assuming I just built an Overtrail the way I want I deleting moonroof dropped it down to $68k. Added full length roof rack and some other items and I am at just over $70k. I am excited to get one coming off lease as second owner still loving my GX460 for now this will be next.

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

"delicate"? Frankly when people can't afford something they tend to be afraid of it. LC200 cost 30k more than a GX460 and is meant to go straight offroad. The son is correct here... low plastic on the bumper yes, "delicate"? as delicate as a tank can be 😃

[@korewest]

Is the tailgate height adjustable?

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

most toyta gates are adjustable... the Sienna one is

[@johnxiong9034]

Good review; too many technology and may have gitch in the near future.

[@austinw7028]

Why does the engine make less power in this thing than it does in the tundra? Especially since Lexus probably states premium fuel only, whereas the tundra can use 87?

[@chibbyylol]

Detuned from the tundra / LX600 likely for reliability and to not step on their toes in the lineup If this got the same tune and power as the LX600 while also having eKDSS and a rear locker (that the LX600 doesn't get) while having 90% of the interior...who would want to get the LX lol

[@joeprestera2239]

How much can this tow? Does it change with the different trim levels?

[@Dusdaddy]

Up to 9k based on trim level. Way more than anyone should need with a vehicle this size.

[@joeprestera2239]

@@Dusdaddy ya that's pretty amazing. Leaves my Highlander in the dust with 5k.

[@eDENTECHNOCYBERHUB]

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[@JCVACCARO]

My brother works for a Lexus dealer and told me they are expecting to sell alot of these GX's. I would agree.

[@Cocky.Rooster]

I contacted my local dealer, they said they'd let me know their allotment when they know, that was a month ago. I mentioned I'm not interested if they put a $10k markup on em, it's been crickets since. Think they like folks who contact them saying I'm willing to pay over MSRP. I hope they don't mark em up too bad.

[@JCVACCARO]

@@Cocky.Rooster Let's hope the Overtrail isn't limited like the TRD Pro's are. I just saw a 12k markup on a 4 runner TRD Pro.

[@nevv8581]

Nice. It would be fascinating to really get solid info regarding how many owners take this behemoth off road? Lexus quality and luxury with great capabilities and build qualities. My guess is that this will be a $80,000 USD mall crawler seeing little if any off roading. Don’t kid yourself, it will be VERY expensive to fix as well (dings, dents, replacement parts etc etc). Consider it a Lexus tax. If off roading is really important 4 runner it is.

[@jimmy-buffett]

Most 4Runner owners don't take their trucks offroad either. And very few 4Runner owners go offroad hard enough to justify all the mods they put on. I help run a Toyota-based offroading club in Denver, my current vehicle is a 2018 TRD Offroad 4Runner. I'm buying one of these GX550's next, probably not new (in 3-4 years, off-lease). I considered the Land Cruiser but I'd rather have the V6 in this truck than the 4-cylinder coming in the Land Cruiser.

[@oni-one574]

New 4runner redesign + tech upgrade is 2 years out and likely hybrid only as they want as much parts compatibility with the new Tacomas as possible. I know 2 people with 4runner TRD Pros. One is kitted out, the other just has tires. They basically act as road trip vehicles or mall crawlers, neither has ever crawled on a rock or through a crag... Outside of business vehicles (youtube, parts companies, etc.) who are looking to sell products, services, or content, no one is buying these new to go rock crawling or stick diving.

[@backwoodstherapy]

Probably won't be used off road at first. In all likelihood, they'll be owned by people who want to look off roady but will take it on a forest service road once and then never again. But once they start coming off lease and trade, people will start using them for off roading.

[@daveybro]

Plus 13mpg or less around town for overtrail , Lexus doesn’t separate out the mpg according to trims - I can only hope it gets 13😅

[@ckm-mkc]

Just anecdotally, but on off-trails in Eastern California, 30% of vehicles are GXs.... Of course, a lot of them older gen 2nd/3rd owners, but it's become (annoyingly) a really popular thing to do. Which means that to really get away from people, you need to go farther and farther off road.

[@arnick2]

For the price - we DESERVE and NEED LEATHER in the Overland. Ridiculous to pay a premium and get fancy named VINYL interior. Lexus needs to fix this in year 2 of the Overland Plus.