LGBT+ Discourse Part 1: Gender Dysphoria and Medicalizing Trans People

[@NicholasBlack]

Here’s my twitter thread on it in case you’re curious, need to use it, or need something a bit more concise: twitter.com/nickmillionz/status/1105870040149254145?s=21 Thread pt 2 bc I’m dumb and don’t know how to make a thread: twitter.com/nickmillionz/status/1106064060716642304?s=21 Also podcast ep 3 👀: soundcloud.com/nicholas-black-438522013/nick-rambles-episode-3-081819

[@linneastack8501]

w e s t e r n m e d i c i n e i c k y

[@mygoodfriendcosmo]

don’t mind me just aggressively liking all your tweets now that i finally found your twitter

[@NicholasBlack]

perijaz It’s beautiful

[@alsior9338]

Hey, can you link all the articles used in this video? I want to look at them so I can get a better understanding of the information. I would say generally it's good practice to link your sources, but I don't mind too much, as long as I can see them at some point. Edit: to be specific I want every single one, I want to laugh at the bad and smile at the good Show me the madness and the final apotheosis.

[@cbgal3756]

Nicks friend: Science, WORDS! BIG BOY WORDS!! SCIENCE WORDS!! Nick: * nods, nods, and nods some more *

[@girltwin]

their name’s eli ☺️

[@cyclesofstrength]

33:00 it's also imposing gender onto colors and clothing items, which don't inherently possess any gendered qualities. Those are socially imposed

[@HootyFruityOwl]

Oh BOY the whole pink and blue shit. That was literally started by Nazis. It ticks me off when people force those colors onto kids and even adults like "blue is for boys pink is for girls!!". Nah dude. Nah. Colors are for everyone.

[@booboogara825]

Pink actually used to be for boys

[@matildatownend7302]

Hoots and like there was this thing where they were tryna gender neutralise this little girl’s life by taking away every single pink thing that she owned. (They gave it back after a month but maybe instead of doing that they should teach her to like whatever the hell she wants instead of forcing her to define against stereotypes bc she might just rlly love pink!!)

[@lil-mj5ed]

they're literally colors, i don't see why people can't just enjoy them.

[@bat5092]

Hoots Sorry, can you possibly expand on that being started Nazis? I’m just curious

[@abbygalloway3752]

I came to this Chanel for the Harry Potter what I got was something much much better enlightening and something I down right needed

[@NicholasBlack]

MHA I love that ❤️

[@AceOfWaffles]

Same

[@nomotivay]

Mood

[@yardengoldenberg931]

SAME

[@nuhuhuhhhhhhh]

same

[@whitewitch9773]

The queer community is always on fire, ALWAYS- also eli seems really nice , i really like their hair. I'm actually really glad you made this video , i myself am cis , but i'm friend's with a few of trans people and transphobes are always bugging them , and i'm glad you're taking time to actually teach un-educated transphobes. [Edit] or overall un-educated people that don't know much about transgender people

[@somethingclever8916]

I agree with the community is always on fire. I have been reading that its supposed to be "inclusive" ... Supposed to be is key word. Its like high school (expect most of us can legally drink and have degrees) except for much worse. Each letter is its on clique and within that are its own cliques, cabals, camps, conspiracies, plots, gossip, etc.

[@Quinn-bq9sv]

@@somethingclever8916 And the aces are the group that everybody forgot about and replaced with allies even though WE ARE VALID AND HERE

[@greyscaleadaven]

@@somethingclever8916 I definitely agree with this. I tend to be very individualistic, so I typically miss out on what some might call LGBTQIA+ cliques, and instead just get to know people for who they are instead of what sexuality or gender they might have. I just try to live out my best life and do what I love, and at the same time I really don't have access to the same resources as all of these people who cause so many issues. Like most of the people that I've met like that are so toxic/entitled and have been more of a burden on my life then someone I'd like to be around. I've been stocked and emotionally abused by people who couldn't just let me not be into them, like just because I'm gay, it doesn't mean that I'm automatically every gay person's soulmate. Then they push me to the curb as a friend and call me scum for not being with them. I hate the idea of being pushed into a corner like that because it's happened to me so many times before. I just don't get what there is to even argue about in the first place anyways. If something doesn't affect me, I stay out of it because it's none of my business, so why do others just not know how to do that? It might be because I came from a place where saying anything about that stuff wasn't tolerated, maybe there are other things that force me to focus on my actual life, it could be because I've been abused harsher for other reasons, and I could be just jaded, but I guess I just can't see why it's such a big deal what other people are doing. Let live and let live.

[@livelaughsol7066]

Omg I thought you said she

[@stanconnorstan4266]

"We're not all born with the same soups" -Eli

[@flamboyantpasta4517]

Ooooh this is fun, I can’t wait till the video where you have to call out people from the comments

[@NicholasBlack]

ToxicEternity 101 the way I wheezed

[@ellabvb7085]

I love how most of the time, Nick just sits there.

[@NicholasBlack]

Ella Von Blottnitz I’m here for moral support

[@ellabvb7085]

@@NicholasBlack I can relate lol

[@a-bird-lover]

he looks mildly excited sometimes

[@pocketpixie9706]

We r all the friend nobody cares about and ignores because I myself am a sad group of kids lol nick have u cringed yet

[@louise4778]

ELI WOULD BE A GREAT TEACHER DONT FITE ME

[@NicholasBlack]

Louise Rentier you’re right and you should say it 😩✊🏻

[@solarsungacha7360]

Fight*

[@data6022]

@@solarsungacha7360 it's in purpose I think

[@solarsungacha7360]

@@data6022 as was my comment. It was a joke!

[@svea4289]

If you just got a dislike that was an accident:) meant to like

[@timidDot]

western medicine? icky. transmedicalists? smelly. hotel? trivago.

[@timidDot]

also just to be safe i am agreeing w/ this comment!! this was a rlly good video and i think it's very well done, thank you :D

[@yesternight1]

Excuse me my liver is a female thank you very much

[@sheeps_]

I was ranting to my dad (who’s over 60) about “transtrender” discourse. And he was like “what are all the trans ppl suppose to email each other? Of course ppl will come up with a lot of different names for how they feel. There weren’t names for these feelings before.” Yes every trans person is valid, every gender is valid, we can even make up a name for our own personal gender and feelings. There being a lot of different names for trans identity isn’t a trend it’s people trying to put their identity into words now that we’re finally learning a language to be able to express our sexual and gender identity when before we had to be all hush hush about it.

[@yesternight1]

hhhh i wasnt aware the rest of the trans people had eachothers emails lemme join

[@sheeps_]

Rose's and Clovers trans ppl email 📧 ! Emails you once a month on the newest trans news world wide 🌍! Lol 😝 I wish

[@ThatOddGuyUKno]

If everyone can come up with personal feelings and gender, then they're unnecessary because there's no base description or definition. Just be yourself, and confident in who you are, no one cares if you're one thing of the other, your identity is your name and personality, not your gender or sexuality.

[@Peertje304]

Your dad's an angel

[@Peertje304]

Asking transgender men if they always hated the color pink and wearing dresses as a child... as if that's going to prove anything. Pink and dresses being feminine isn't a natural thing. It's a ridiculous argument. My god, I'm so sorry for all my transgender brothers and sisters who have to go through this ridiculous nonsense.

[@luke9726]

I feel like because gender euphoria is something a lot of people class as part of dysphoria, that that’s why a lot of people say you NEED dysphoria. Literally just not internalising a lot of the gendered products and social constructs can reduce dysphoria so much. Brain scans can suck my brain soup.

[@Isaac-hi6lw]

This is such a good video, as a trans man who experiences dysphoria this video has made me feel much better as a whole, truscum make me feel so uncomfortable, before I came out the threat of truscum attacking me actually discouraged me to come out and made me question myself since at the time I didn’t understand my gender dysphoria and how different it can be for other people.

[@somethingclever8916]

Being trans I don't want to associate much with the trans community lately No one in RT cares about this or cared about this until Tumblr invented a controversy. No one over 21 cares about this. No one outside of the trans community cares about this. Heck, they can't tell the difference between a drag queen, fem gay cis man, or TS woman

[@dandymonkey6276]

J'me Despence agreed.

[@ceilingeye]

I’m a trans man and i’ve not experienced dysphoria since I transitioned. I stopped hating my body after i came out, because i was recognized as a man. Also that part about breast augmentation made me so ANGRY. Its so unfair! ITS SUCH BULLSHIT UGHHH

[@NicholasBlack]

Anxious Anarchist agreed my dude. I wish people would stop medicalizing trans people and start respecting your surgical decisions without getting wild about it 😞✊🏻

[@ceilingeye]

Nicholas Black omg!! Hi!! You’re one of my favorite content creators ever!! And agreed!! The medicalization of trans identities is getting trans folks hurt, and it needs to end.

[@cassidyflame2885]

I hate it when my friend says “transgender people don’t exist, they are just mentally ill” I wish she could understand that not everyone is born to be the same sex as there gender like her. Edit: and they aren’t mentally I’ll because they feel this way. (I’m not trans, just thinks sex is a stupid way to define a person)

[@RealTewarrist]

This is an old comment and I don't know if I'll get an answer but I was just curious. I have a few trans friends that do say they are ill and it came from unfortunate childhood trauma. I've also read a lot of the same thing in other LGBTQ places. I do think that people are trans without trauma but it also seems like a lot of it is because of it. In the end even if it is an illness it's still valid and honestly it's best to help those people be happy imo, I'm just curious as to I guess what each side has to say about this. I'm queer myself and I just want a better understanding, no bad intent and if it is taken that way then I apologize.

[@animalrites_]

@A tired idiot. hi!!!! im a trans man and i dont have any trauma. imo a lot of trans and lgbtq+ ppl in general do have trauma cuz of homophobia, transphobia, etc. im just lucky enough to grow up in an accepting household, but a lot of ppl arent!! hope this helps you understand and, no, trans is not an illness bestie

[@Charlie-jm1gi]

I watched this as attentively as Dan's coming out video, but without crying

[@pluto206]

lmao same-

[@_gremlinboy]

Tbh I cried a little as soon as he dunked on truscum, I was Afraid

[@lw727]

Eli was very well spoken and has such a nice tone of voice,really enjoyed the video! As a cis woman I feel like I learned a lot, even if I consider myself more educated on gender identity than the average cis person.

[@zesty6781]

:0 _It's the brain cell_

[@carsonpidgeon5024]

Gay gate keeping GAYKEEPING

[@kaysenhiggason]

I FEEL REPRESENTED BY ELI YES NON-BINARY TRANS PEOPLE EXIST So it turns out I’m actually ftm lol

[@thekingrah6882]

same

[@ramonheuvelmans8207]

can i ask how it works, because i dont understand. if your trans it means that you go from one gender to the other gender, right? so how can you change gender wen you are non-binary, meaning that you have no gender (corect me if im wrong pls)?

[@kaysenhiggason]

Ramon Heuvelmans well, transitioning is more about changing how you look and how you are seen by others. For a lot of non-binary people it’s about looking androgynous (not female or male) although nonbinary people can look feminine or masculine as well. Gender is a spectrum and it’s weird and no one really understands it. I don’t know how else to explain but I hope this helped!

[@ramonheuvelmans8207]

@@kaysenhiggason thanks now i understand it a little better

[@kaysenhiggason]

Ramon Heuvelmans glad I could help!

[@yesternight1]

Let's watch Eli take over the channel and just spew truth

[@natenotsogreat1054]

Eli: so In the lgbt community there’s was th- Nic: ᴛʜᴀᴛ's ᴛʜᴇ ᴛᴇᴀ Eli:I didn’t even finish the sentence Nic: but you didn’t even have to

[@nuhuhuhhhhhhh]

I’m really glad there are people like you making videos like this

[@Vanderbats]

SERA OMFG--

[@Lee-xd9wx]

Unordinary omg

[@abbygalloway3752]

Season finale OMG

[@Vanderbats]

@@abbygalloway3752 hey hey no spoilers I dont have fast pass

[@abbygalloway3752]

@@Vanderbats don't worry neither do I but it's out already you can go read it

[@zofiapawlik3127]

You have no idea how much I needed this video. Even though I am a lesbian, I know so little about the LGBTQ+ community. And transgender people especially. They are denied existence in my country (Poland). There is literally no information. And on top of that, the Polish language doesn't have gender-neutral pronoun 'they'. It's either masculine 'oni' or feminine 'one' and it only refers to a group of people. So due to our lacking language, there's no way to describe non-binary folks. I'm trying to educate myself in English, but I don't know where to look for legitimate information. And Tumblr tends to confuse me even more. Your video is filled with facts and logical arguments- exactly what I wanted. THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!! (and btw the phrase 'proximity to privilege doesn't give you privilege. it means you're a suck-up' is so genius!!!)

[@whitewitch9773]

Also how much for an eli on craigslist? Asking for a friend..-

[@baz4377]

As a cis person, I am very grateful for this video. I learned something. Thanks.

[@yesternight1]

"first" "Me 1st" IvE nEvER bEEN hEre tHiS eaRLy aNd thIS iS SAd yall aint first nick is first

[@milesdelatorre3001]

I love how Nick smiles because his friend is being such an inspirational bad ass I stan this whole video

[@yesternight1]

For real though this video actually really helped me understand why dysphoria isn't needed to be trans. hhhhhhhfdnbskd I have been enlightened

[@williamlieske4503]

Can you explain it maybe I didn't catch it

[@NicholasBlack]

Rose's and Clovers !!!!! Yay!!! Thank you for listening friend

[@yesternight1]

@@williamlieske4503 in my case, I didn't really know what dysphoria was, or never thought about it. I think it depends on how you view gender and dysphoria to watch it and come to your own conclusion

[@victoriamaakulmamerijarvi9036]

william lieske One point was that in order to diagnose someone with dysphoria, it needs to be intense distress and disconnect. Let's say someone has zero or very little distress and disconnect because in their community, gender isn't something people are categorised by in social situations and the only place where our sex matters is when we go see a doctor. They won't get diagnosed because there's no intense distress and disconnect, but they still are the gender they are, right?

[@carolinaaguad1279]

I’m non binary and this video has helped me so much. I’m sending this so my sis and gay friends to spread the word.

[@victorian_da]

This video is basically: Nick is the One True Hype ManTM for all minorities confirmed.

[@stanconnorstan4266]

That aggressive cross-legged sitting with the hands on the knees has such a specific energy. Like "haha gotcha now, here's my senior thesis"

[@eylu1sjw]

Oooh new education yum yum

[@olivercetus6956]

Aha Türk buldum

[@GrizzlyInc-zs5xu]

I feel guilty for not doing this research myself, buy it feels so good to be validated. I came out to myself when calling people out for being "trenders" was really popular and common. I felt like i needed to be certain way to be valid in my identity and it caused me more anxiety and stress then my initial gender dysphoria. When I came out my parents made a point of me not showing any signs of gender dysphoria before I was eight, which I actually agree with but through them accepting my dyshorias existence helped me except it myself.

[@Spiritwhisperer11]

This is the argument I always try to make, and sometimes I'm listened to, but rarely. I've always had to fight for my right to exist: because, while I have dysphoria, I'm Non-binary and genderfluid. This automatically makes me a "transtrender" in the eyes of some. Anyways, thanks for making this y'all, it was really good and covered all of the important arguments! Nice work.

[@Vanderbats]

I just think do what makes you happy and comfortable(as long as it isnt harmful to people), nothing more nothing less.

[@fellowsinner9683]

The most passive aggressive TED talk

[@vapidspecter9065]

Finally, someone said it

[@valoriethunderson6305]

Bisexual girl sends you all the love from Russia💜

[@Valentine-jo7ls]

Omg when you brought up PCOS it all clicked for me. A cisgender woman who has PCOS could possibly feel more distress over how her features or other aspects caused by her condition effect how she is perceived. But that doesn’t mean she’s in a male body and is in distress because she doesn’t have breasts or a vagina. Not everyone who is trans has to change their sex organs in order to be trans whether they have not done it or simply do not feel the desire to. One woman with above average testosterone levels could be perfectly happy in her body and identifying as a woman and another may not. Idk if I explained that right but it made so much sense when Eli brought it up.

[@obsessedbiatch]

they're so well spoken and good at explaining things....go off

[@NicholasBlack]

Ugly Lil rat boy for real they’re so eloquent

[@xiaocad8345]

they have such a calming voice??? i love

[@vanilla18]

2:02 I mean, Tumblr is pretty uNiqUe.

[@TheVoidIsBees]

It's a garbage can on fire

[@kaydens.3977]

@@TheVoidIsBees more like a whole ass dumpster fire

[@PyroGirl-kz2ik]

Tumblur is okay if you know where to hide

[@dknuts7080]

Hi 15 ftm person that my dysphoria got so bad that I had to get hospitalized and later sent to a gender doctor to get an official diagnose because t got so bed when I was on my period that I wasn’t physically able to wear pads or stuff that I would vomit :))) Haven’t watched the video yet just wanted to share how bad dysphoria can getand I didn’t even mention mutilation stuff

[@NicholasBlack]

Chasing Trains stay strong friend ❤️ Your gender dysphoria will be alleviated some day when (if) you decide to transition. You can do this

[@welchsgum7195]

oh heck friend! you'll get through this!

[@muffindrawz7007]

As a non-binary former trans medicalist, the main reason I believed in it was because I wanted to be able to explain gender somehow. I am a person who hates not having all the answers, and gender being so weird and nondescript frustrated me. It still does. I wanted to have everyone in there little orderly boxes, and have everything make sense. But gender doesn’t make sense. So I grabbed onto the closest explanation that fit into what I already knew from my experiences as a non-binary person with a truckload of dysphoria. I still find it difficult to understand those who do not experience gender dysphoria, but I’m trying my best.

[@l.pineda1576]

as a trans dude who proudly held many of the truscum beliefs discussed in this video, i think i understand better. i couldn't wrap my head around the concept of not needing dysphoria to be trans, but after this video i get it. thank you so much for this

[@ariadnehuff6225]

19:44 Nick's amigdala be thicccc

[@baz4377]

*Nick is back at it again.* I relate. I am also filled with anger. >:)

[@zommerz]

Why cant everyone be like, "oh youre valid" even if they dont believe in it,, like,, keep your opinions to yourself sometimes Everyones valid,, love everyone no matter what, we're supposed to be an accepting community and we're excluding members from it simply because some of us don't believe in their gender identity Alot of people dont agree with neo pronouns either but because im cool, i'd use your neo pronouns if you wanted to I dont wanna make anyone uncomfortable

[@bobsleann]

I’m non-binary and have dysphoria and had euforia before, and this had really put several areas of the trans experience in perspective, I enjoyed it and learned loads, even tho it just should be common knowledge and unfortunately it isn’t. Even tho I’d still like to have a deeper voice and get rid of my chest, I think the biggest place of dysphoria for me by miles is society itself; the way people treat me and assume what I like or how I react to situations because I’ve got a feminine body. Like dude. Do YOu evEn KnOw Me, BAck OFf! I feel like in order to not be treated that way, I need to wear clothes all the time that maybe I don’t really feel like wearing that day, and I can’t act the way it’s natural to me because then I won’t be taken seriously. And all I want is to have a nicer, consistent fashion style, be a whacky potato and eat loads of food cuz food is life. Take a chill pill people.

[@x-itsamystery-x1132]

I completely agree. I have the exact same problem, and it really sucks. I really hope society gets better about this eventually.

[@Obi_jake]

Nick your hands are glowing aRE THEY JESUS

[@NicholasBlack]

C K I have the power

[@isthataspider7410]

Transgender rights have risen indeed

[@kenzbee69]

“The LGBT community is kind of on fire.” I couldn’t agree more

[@kenzbee69]

Can you also discuss bi erasure?? It’s a big problem in the community and it feels like not enough people are talking about it

[@NicholasBlack]

Meredith Wheeler that’s gonna be in the next video when we talk about pan/poly/Omni/bi identities

[@rubytuesday9530]

haha this whole video is Eli making us way smarter and Nick lookin around his room and at the camera like "y'all learnin shit you better be learnin shit"

[@NicholasBlack]

Ruby Tuesday I fuckin snorted

[@imogendews1146]

I just want to say thank you for making this video. I've been really struggling with my gender but because I haven't really been educated I wasn't certain. I thought that because I wasn't a tomboy as a child and I don't experience as much gender dysphoria as some other trans people I wasn't valid. When I came out to my friends a couple of them medicalised it, and I've been really stressed because I don't seem to fit into their idea of gender. I don't feel so horrible about existing now so thank you 😁

[@jinjasdiorlocket]

As someone who used to be a transmedicalist and has almost came back to being one because of intense dysphoria, thank you, especially for what you said in the end.

[@elliotdorn1381]

Hi Nick! I just came out of the closet and I'm transgender I don't suffer from dysphoria( I think I spelled that right ) so I just need to know some things about my community. Thanks for making this video!

[@grungebourne]

Coming into this video, I believed that you did need gender dysphoria to be trans. Now, I realize you don’t. Thank you for enlightening me!

[@NicholasBlack]

Mini Fish Studios thank you for listening!! ❤️

[@percysimmerman3424]

I really hate the male vs female brain argument because when I first heard it I was so terrified of the idea of getting a brain scan and my brain being female. Not only is it not actually backed up, but it also can cause a lot of fear for people like me who do experience dysphoria. If we started demanding brain scans from people to determine if they were trans, then that would most certainly cause people like me intense stress and dysphoria if they got the "wrong" answer.

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

theConcernedWyvern www.reddit.com/r/Transmedical/comments/b47etp/scientific_resources_to_back_up_an_arguement_for/? well unfortunately it does have medical basis

[@Vincent-no2tc]

you are cis

[@percysimmerman3424]

copious crows please don’t assume I’m cis or trans based on that one comment. You don’t see inside my head and you can’t know what I experience from one comment.

[@Vincent-no2tc]

@@percysimmerman3424 If you don't suffer from dysphoria, you are cis.

[@percysimmerman3424]

@@Vincent-no2tc I do experience dysphoria, so by that definition, I am transgender. I never said I didn't experience it, I just said for people that do, brain scans can add another layer of anxiety that may not even be necessary.

[@wolfkissed9821]

Gonna be honest, was a transmedicalist before this video but now you’ve swayed me, this is actually a really good video

[@NicholasBlack]

Cold Fire !!!! Thank you for listening

[@beckheorshepls5397]

I love it when he laughs at Eli's jokes and how supportive and quiet he is to their experiences. Also his laugh is just dorky and lightens the mood from the heavy topics.

[@Charlie-jm1gi]

Hi, I have gender dysphoria, it sucks. Edit: I'm gender fluid, idk why I added this...

[@princeleon7104]

Charlie dysphoria sucksssss

[@kaydens.3977]

Also nonbinary and dysphoric. Help.

[@HootyFruityOwl]

Gender fluid squad, woot! I feel you on that. It does suck. Also you should totes have added that because gender fluidity is valid 👏

[@jams1113]

we can be dysphoric genderfluid buds together

[@NotInterested666]

Question for the non-binary folks, why do you identify as non-binary? I ask because the people I've come across who identify as some non-binary gender typically cite their levels of femininity and masculinity and/or how they fit into gender roles as their reasoning for identifying as such, but that doesn't make sense to me because woman=/=feminine, man=/=masculine. Women can be masculine, feminine, both, neither, etc, and men can be feminine, masculine, both, neither, etc. Women and men should be able to do whatever they want to do in life and shouldn't be restricted to any set of roles. Yeah, there are stereotypes, but that's all they are, stereotypes, and we should just laugh at them and treat them as the stupid things they are. It seems to me that the reason most non-binary people identify the way they do is because they view the words "girl/woman (etc)" and "boy/man (etc)" as social labels and have rigid ideas about what it means to be in those social labels, as opposed to viewing the words as physical labels and simply not giving a crap about all the social nonsense.

[@ahnifollett]

For a moment I was like "Of course you have to experience dysphoria to be trans, why would you transition if you don't experience dysphoria between your gender identity and your assigned gender at birth." But this video really cleared it up. I have PMDD, premenstrual dysphoric disorder. Key word: DYSPHORIC. People with a menstrual cycle experience mood swings with their periods, it's just part of having a period. PMDD is a mental illness where we feel severely depressed and anxious in the weeks before and during your menstrual cycle. Yes your period can make you depressed, but not to the point of feeling suicidal. Yes you can experience anxiety during your period, but it shouldn't be debilitating to the point of being unable to function. That's the difference between PMS and PMDD. And I feel like it's sort of similar with trand people. You don't have to be severely anxious and depressed about your assigned gender, it's just about knowing who you are.

[@neccodealer]

God I want to send this to everyone I know but I can never deal with the backlash

[@gaesimp__]

As someone with gender dysphoria, I can confirm, to be trans, you do not have to have gender dysphoria. I have no desire to identify as trans nor change my biological gender. Gender dysphoria is just one's discomfort about one's own body accompanied by discomfort of one's own gender. I really appreciate this video

[@CaterinaMastrogiacomo]

*posts a 15 second video of Bianca standing still* *POSTS 47 MINUTES ABOUT SERIOUS STUFF* Love your upload strategy, I always get something unexpected. I'm just your straight white girl, but I appreciate you educating the internet over such important topics.

[@memeking6963]

Eli: sites their sources Nicholas: there is something here that I do not like

[@unacethethicallypleasing9981]

I'm pretty bloody late to this video, but hearing about how dysphoria isn't needed finally made me sure of my identity. I am a nonbinary person who very rarely experiences dysphoria. Due to my little amount of dysphoria, I felt invalid. For years, I had always suspected, but I never acted upon my hunches. That was mainly due to the whole dysphoria thing. So, all I can say is thank you.

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

unACEthethically pleasing im a self identified as schizophrenic and im so glsd for this video too :) Knowing I can call western science bullshit and also cite western science for it makes me very happy.I cant wait until I get to go on antipsychotics

[@chloenelson3951]

Why are you and your friends the most Woke individuals I have ever seen? I learn so much from this channel. Also I laughed every time Eli called Hormones soup and I want to call them soup now as well. Just the levels of sass and intolerance for bullshit you two gave in this video is bordering on godlike. Thank you so much for teaching the peeps who don't yet know all this important stuff. It's so important to help people understand these things. I really appreciate it.

[@insertnamehere6173]

How did I not know any of that? You probably had to research of ages, its amazing. Thank you for sharing this whole thing with us, it changes basically everything and might even help questioning trans people (including me). Idk how to explain, anyway I already said it once and I'll say it again: Thank you

[@AckermanYuki]

i was really confused about this at first but i understand now,thank you.

[@bbeeboyy8878]

this video is so good thank you so much, as someone who's had to deal with these people for a long time im genuinely so tired, ya'll are gems in this hell fire called the internet

[@nadiaenakai2236]

This was awesome, thank you!! The more I learn about LGBTQ+ issues the more I realize how complex and difficult to define gender and sexuality are. I've always felt uncomfortable when my trans friends criticize trans people without dysphoria, and the way they present. And now I understand that no matter what way trans people present or feel, they are still valid trans people.

[@iwishihadaname287]

Yes. I agree with all. Also I have never been this early Edit: 1.Thank you for the like 2. There were alot of big words in this video. I now have *BIG BRAIN*

[@iwishihadaname287]

@Mcbsl 25 *S I C K*

[@komaru6268]

and theres this one ancient egyptian god called hapi who's the god of the nile and he was seen as both male and female so more proof that its existed since forever

[@stanconnorstan4266]

Nick being quiet for most of this video somehow adds weight???

[@lil-mj5ed]

i wish more cis people would educate themselves on trans people. it bothers me to hear uneducated people talk about trans people like they know soo much about them and the community and then say incorrect and offensive things right after that.

[@allignn210]

Alright, this video is actually really good. I have transmedicalist friends. They are really passionate about their beliefs that there are two genders and to be trans, you need to feel dysphoria. I don't know as of right now my identity, or if I will ever know. I would say I agreed on the thoughts of transmedicalists. I was worried, that people who do not have dysphoria take away resources from trans people that do experience dysphoria. But you two showed that it's not that simple, and I thank you for that. Basically this video kind of changed how i percieve the world and people. I was really sceptic at first and I'm glad I sticked around for the whole video. Transmedicalists, please watch the whole video from beginning to end. Gender might be much more than it seems. This also gave me space to rethink my gender again. I reverted back to being cis over and over, because I felt I would never be valid. Now I can allow myself to rethink it more. Thank you again. You're really wise individuals, both of you. 💕

[@meghanb9270]

Brain scans can't "prove" or "validate" trans-ness because there's not much of a difference between "male" and "female" brains! While studying neuroscience in undergrad one of my professors said that there are more differences between one random person to the next than between women's brains and men's brains. So most neuroscientists would rather study individual differences than gender differences. Also HATE the idea of male and female hormone levels changing the brain- first off male bodies have estrogen and female bodies have testosterone, secondly again there are so many individual differences in hormones that it can't be considered causal for any differences in the brain. Ugh people are dumb thanks for educating them

[@saadjamal1000]

I wanted to come back to this video cuz i watched it while back and wanted to share it with ppl and i typed some of the keywords in my youtube history and youtube would not show it. I then typed it in youtube search and again youtube would not show. I then manually went through the vids on the channel to find it. Thanks KZbin

[@luke9726]

Nick attempting to word his thoughts and feelings and Eli just voicing them is amazing because like Give me this level of friendship thanks

[@tidecovill6718]

‘We’re always fighting with eachother, and its over stupid shit’ describes the human condition

[@vesmiya5638]

no one: literally no one: no one when eli is talking: nick: *nod*

[@berkleypearl2363]

Thankfully my cis ass is well caught up on all the terms and themes because I watch wayyyyyyy too much Contrapoints. Btw a great video to watch in conjunction with this one is Transtrenders by Contrapoints. She makes points similar to these but with a bit of a different point of view and it is stunning

[@cyclesofstrength]

You can't watch too much Contrapoints💜

[@williamlieske4503]

She's great lmao

[@applepatronum4934]

I love being educated at 3 am

[@applepatronum4934]

Oof is it "getting educated"? Uh i'm confused now sorry i'm not a native english speaker. Sooo you always teach me sonething, Nick!

[@stanconnorstan4266]

As a person with severe body dysmorphia (like to the point I think about it everytime I see another human being or myself, fun fun fun), nothing makes me more annoyed than people invalidating the real symptoms and gender dysphoria is SIGNIFICANTLY more awful. Bitch like if they're experiencing things or they feel something about their gender that feels like it doesn't align, then that's a sort of dysphoria. It's not you. You don't get to decide which symptoms are valid.

[@CaspiDrako]

This is an extremely important video, and even if transphobic and people without an open mind don't care or listen, this video will help trans people and any one else who truly want to learn more about it and want to support the community, and those who are willing to at least listen. Thank you Eli and Nick, this is an amazing video.

[@elizabethrodgers750]

Thank you for this 💖

[@esthermaarsman]

Thank you both for making this you are truly galaxy brained

[@breatheinjuniper9915]

Thank you for this video! It was really comforting and means a lot to loads of people, including myself. :))

[@copycatshasta6480]

Nick jumping in is perfect on both comedy and reinforcing. This is a wonderful video.

[@sockzparty]

Eli had nice eyes. I know this has nothing to do what with this video is about, but they have nice good eyes.

[@spidergirl5784]

I love your friend, Nick. They seem amazing. Plus, they know how to use google

[@NicholasBlack]

Spider Girl they’re probably the most intelligent person I’ve ever met 👌🏻 love them

[@its.halcyonne]

eli is such a calming voice ♡♡ thank you both for trying to educate everyone!!

[@cactus_4204]

I loved this video SO MUCH!! You guys should do more videos (especially the longer ones) I would love a video on less heavy topic with you two!!

[@awkward_chaos8322]

Bro this is my 4th time watching this I can only see ABSOLUTE BANGERS on your channel king

[@Mia-mo8pd]

Im straight but only 3 of my friends are straight cis so I’m trying to educate myself on lgbtq+ problems that way i can try an understand what they are going through, these videos have really helped me and im learning a lot so thank you❤️

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

beanjuicemakemyheart andbraingozoomiezoomie if you preach any of this to your lgbt friends, then im so sorry i hope they teach you

[@whosasking8593]

@@totallynotarussianspy5336 shut up and stop seeing hate comments on so many comments

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

@@whosasking8593 lmao no

[@mr.reflxn]

This is the best articulated and well-constructed argument I have found on this topic so far.

[@moth5560]

reactivated my instagram to follow eli because dang, what a role model, and also like. this is a great freaking video that was well researched. liked, commented, subscribed, and i'm absolutely referencing this/sharing it to educate others because i'm really bad at wording stuff like this

[@HootyFruityOwl]

I watched this video with mom because Nick and Eli explain things that I've had a hard time putting into words. It made perfect sense to my mother and we understand each other better because of Eli's clear explaining and Nick's masterful ability to call out bullshit. Thank you both so much ❤❤❤